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The Qur’an and the Bible in the Light of Science – vs Dr William Campbell #2
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Now let us go on and look at mountains.
The current has more than a dozen verses stating that God placed reaffirm and unmovable mountains on the earth. And in some of these verses the mountains are listed as either a blessing for believers, or a warning for the unbelievers. One example of this is found in the sorrel lookman 31 1011, where the mountains are one of five warnings.
It says he was Korea He has created the heavens
says he has created the heavens without supports that you can see
and has cast elka onto the earth for mountains rahasya less to check with you.
In the prophets, Elena via 2131 as one of seven warnings we read and we have set on the earth firm mountains, let's check with you with them. Finally, in the B and now has 1615 says and he has cast icon to the earth for mountains rahasya. Let's check with you.
We see then that the believers and unbelievers are told that a lot is done this great thing. He's thrown down and placed the mountain so that the earth will not shake violently with them. Therefore, we must ask ourselves what did they understand? In the next two verses? Another picture is given
the news and nabba 70 867 Have We not made the earth and expanse in the mountains as fakes of G Bella or Titan as those used to anchor a tent in the ground.
And then the overwhelming Li Shia 88 1719 do they the unbelievers not look at the mountains LG Bal how they've been pitched like a tent.
Here men are told that the mountains are placed as 10 pegs. 10 pegs keep the tent stable. So again, the idea is put forward that the pegs the mountains will keep the earth from shaking.
A third picture is presented in the word rosacea used for mountains. This word comes from the Arabic root arsa. And the same root is used for the Arabic word for anchor to throw out or cast the anchor itself called mersa. So instead of cast the anchor to keep the ship from moving, we have cast the mountains to keep the earth from shaking.
From these pictures, it is clear that Mohammed's followers understood that the mountains were thrown down, like 10 pegs to keep a tent in place, like an anchor to hold the ship in place to stop the earth from movie, ie limit earthquakes. But in fact, this is false. the forming of mountains causes earthquakes. Therefore, these verses present a definite problem. Dr. Maurice fukai recognized this and discussed them in his book The Bible, the Koran and science. After quoting the above verses about mountains, he says, modern geologists describe the folds in the earth as giving foundation to the mountains, and the stability of the Earth's crust results from this phenomenon of these folds.
When asked about this professor of geology, Dr. David a young says, while it is true that many mountain ranges are composed of folded rock, and the folds may be of large scale, it's not true that the folds render the crust stable. the very existence of the folds is evidence of instability in the crust. In other words, mountains don't keep the earth from shaking, their formation caused and still causes the surface of the earth to shake.
Geological theories at the present time proposed that the hardened crust of the earth is made of sections or plates, which slowly move in relation to each other.
Sometimes the plates separate, like North and South America separating from Europe and Asia and Europe and South Africa. And sometimes they go together, and they slide next to each other and they bump into each other. And then they cause earthquakes.
And exists example his time of mountain formation is found in the Middle East where the migration of Arabia toward Iran has resulted in the Zai gross range and in Iran.
In many parts of the world as one travels along the roads, one sees a hillside where the sandstone layers which were horizontal when they were deposited are now sticking up at angles. And so here you could see these sandstone layers which were horizontal in the beginning. Now they're sticking up at 75 degrees, where they they were pushed up there by an earthquake by the violence being formed.
Sometimes the plates get caught on each other and stopped sliding. During this period. Great forces are built up
When the forces of friction are overcome, the piece of plate that was stuck lurches forward causing the shock wave of a thrust quake and then all of a sudden it goes like this. In a recent earthquake, it was calculated that the Cocos plated Mexico suddenly jumped forward three meters.
Well, if your house suddenly jumped three murders, it would be a catastrophe.
Another type of mount a mountain is that formed by volcanoes, lava and ash from inside the earth are thrown out and piled up until a high mountain is formed, even from the bottom of the sea.
And we can see this kind of action in this picture. I hope you can see it.
Not clear as
the ocean crust
is right here.
And the continental crust is there. And the oceanic crust is going down under the continental crust. And mountains have been formed here. Here's a volcano. And here is the magma or the molten rock going up through the volcano. And here's another volcano with magma going up.
And so this is how the mountains are formed, and earthquakes are for.
In the case of some igneous moms molten rock intrudes into the throat of volcanoes opening and cools form a relatively dense intrusion, which extends below the surface of the earth. So this if this got stuck, and sealed, then it would be like a plug.
However, it's not a route, it does not bear the weight of the mountain, it's really a plug. Therefore on occasion, pressure builds up under the plug. And the volcano explodes has happened in the South Pacific at Krakatoa in 1883. When the whole island was blown away, and it happened in Mount Santa Elena and our days when the mountain was blown away. We can conclude from this information that mountains were formed originally with movement and shaking. And then now in the present earthquakes are caused by their continued formation. When the plates buckle over each other, there are earthquakes. When the volcanoes erupt, there can be earthquakes. However, it is clear that
the followers of Mohammed were understanding these verses to say that a law through the mountains down
is a tent pegs are anchors to keep the earth from shaking, throwing the mountains down into the earth maybe poetry, but to say that mountains keep the earth from shaking is a severe difficulty, which is out of step with modern science.
Now we're going to take a little look at what the sun says about about the Koran says about the sun
in the search of the calf 1886 it says until Wenzhou carnation, that's Alexander the Great reach the setting of the sun. He found it said in the spring of murky water, I'm sorry, in 20 cents science 20th century science the sun does not set in a spring of murky water.
And then in the criterion of forgotten 2545 to 46. It says, has found not turned division to the Lord, how he prolongs the shadow. If he will, he could make it stationary, then do we God make the sun its guy?
What about this as the sun's if you think of the Sun overhead, you have no shadow or a little tiny shadow. And then as the sun goes down, your shadow gets longer on the other side.
While the sun is stationary in relation to the earth, it's not what causes the shadow to shift. The rotating earth guides the shadows. So if you demand 20th century accuracy, the Sora should say the rotating earth causes the shadows to change.
I will look at a different subject. Solomon's death, whether this is science, I don't know maybe sociology. Solomon's dead. He's propped up on his staff says the djinns work for him is Solomon desire. Then when we decreed death upon Solomon, nothing showed them his death except a little creeping creature of the earth, which not away his staff. And when he fell, the jinns came clearly saw clearly how if they had known the unseen, they would not have continued in the humiliating penalty of work.
So here's Solomon
He's dead. It's propped up on his staff, like a walk off in Morocco overseeing only a road gay. And no cook comes to ask him for what he wants for dinner. And no general comes for orders. And none of his more nobles come to say let's go hunting. no one notices. I'm sorry, I do not believe this story. And it won't fit, fit 20th century sociology or seventh century sociology where the king would never be left alone like that.
Now finally, let us look at milk.
It says in the sort of the be and now has 1666 we pour out to you from what is within their cattle in their abdomen, the cattles abdomen, between excretions and blood milk, pure and agreeable to the drinkers.
The abdomen where the intestines are sorry, in 20th century medical science, the abdomen where intestines are, is where the intestines are. The mammary glands are under the skin. In humans are under the skin here in cattle, they're under the skin between the legs.
No connection, there's no connection between the breasts and the intestines and their feces in any way. feces though in the body, it really is outside of the animal animals finished with it. It's not connected to milk or to anything else.
And finally going to look at communities.
The sir of the cattle an nm 638 there is not an animal on the earth, nor a being that flies on two wings. But forums communities like you
speaks about no animal on earth, not a being that flies. And then it says that every one of them is communities like you. And I assume that the Koran is speaking about we humans.
Well, some fly in some spiders.
When they finish mating, the mother eats the Father. While I'm glad that my wife didn't need me.
Even in bees, the extra male drones are thrown out to die. Well, I'm glad also that after I had we had four children that my wife didn't push me out of the house to
finally the lions.
When a male lion gets old, a male lion gets old, a young lion comes along and drives him away from his own wives. And the young lion takes over their wives.
But what he does with the Cubs, the Cubs of the old lion he kills them all.
So I do not think that this sentence is true. All of the communities are and all of the animals do not live in communities like us.
In conclusion, it's clear that the Koran has many scientific errors. As a generality the car and mirrors and reflects the science of its time. The science of the seventh century AD we came here to seek truth. I've done my best to present valid information. If you want to see all the references my book, The Quran and the Bible in the light of history and science is for sale outside that door at a bargain price tonight.
May the God of all truth guide you. Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. Campbell.
For your presentation. Now we have brothers bill Mr.
presenting an introduction of our next speaker Dr. Zakir Naik.
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It is my pleasure to introduce one of the best callers of our time Dr. Zakir Abdul Karim lyac H 34 years old.
He is the president of Islamic Research Foundation Bombay, India.
Though a medical doctor with professional training, Dr. Zakir Naik is known as a dynamic international return on Islam and comparative religion.
Dr. Zakir, nyah clarifies Islamic viewpoints and clears misconceptions about Islam based upon the Quran, Hadith and other religious scriptures as well as adhering to reason, logic and scientific facts.
He is popular for his critical analysis and convincing answers to challenging questions.
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may I call upon Dr. Zakir Naik to present his talk
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of today's dialogue is the Quran and the Bible, in the light of science.
The Glorious Quran is the last and final revelation, which was revealed to the last and final messenger, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for any book to claim that it is a revelation from Almighty God, it should stand the test of time
previously known olden days, it was the age of miracles.
the Quran is the miracle of miracles. Later on, came the age of literature and poetry. And Muslims and non Muslims alike, the claim the glorious Orion to be the best Arabic literature available on the face of the earth.
But today is the age of Science and Technology. Let us analyze
whether the Quran is compatible or incompatible with modern science.
Einstein said science without religion is lame. And religion without science is blind. Let me remind you that the glorious Koran is not a book of science, s ZIENZ. It's a book of signs, s i g ns. It's the book of IRS.
And there are more than 6000 signs I add in the Glorious Quran out of which more than 1000 speak about science.
As far as my talk regarding Koran and science is concerned, I will only be speaking about scientific facts which have been established, I will not be speaking about scientific hypotheses and theories, which are based on assumption without any proof because we all know many a times science takes you turns.
Dr. William Campbell, who wrote a reply to the book of Dr. Murray's book L.
The Quran the Bible in the light of history and science. He says in his book, that there are two types of approaches. One is a concordance approach,
which means a person tries to bring a compatibility between the Scripture and science and the other is the conflict approach in which a person tries to bring a conflict between scripture and science, like how Dr. William Campbell has done very well.
But as far as the Quran is concerned, irrespective whether a person uses a conflicting approach, or a concordance approach, as long as your logical and after a logical explanations given to you, not a single person will be able to prove a single verse of the Quran in conflict with established modern science.
has pointed out various alleged scientific errors in the Quran
and I'm supposed to actually refute in the rebuttal, but since he chose to speak first, I will be refuting a few points in my talk. I will reply to the major part of his talk mainly dealing with embryology and re geology. The remaining inshallah inshallah I will try my level best to reply in the rebuttal.
I have to do both. I can't ingest is a topic The topic is Quran and Bible in the light of science. I can only speak on one scripture that William Campbell hardly spoke about one or two points about the Bible, which I shall deal with inshallah, I will speak about both inshallah, I won't do justice to the topic.
As far as Quranic nonsense is concerned, in the field of astronomy, the scientists, the astronomers, a few decades earlier,
they described how the universe came into existence.
They call it the Big Bang. And they said, initially, there was one primary Nebula, which later on is separated with a big bang,
which gave rise to galaxies, stars, sun and the earth we live in. This information is given in a nutshell in the Glorious Quran in surah ambia chapter 21 was Timothy we save
our lives Allah Mira Xena through do not the unbeliever See, unless amavasya Vallarta cannot construct nama, that the heaven and the earth for join together and we close them asunder. Imagine this information with the came from recently, the Quran mentions 1400 years ago, when I was in school, I had learned that the sun in respect to the earth,
it was stationary, the Earth and the Moon they rotated about the axis but the sun was stationary.
But when I read a verse of the Quran, saying in the ambia chapter 21 was the mortality rate thief
who does the collector layer one? It is Allah was created the night and the day was Sham sarcoma, the sun and the moon
balloon, each one traveling in orbit with its own motion.
Now hamdulillah modern science has confirmed the Quranic statement. Now Arabic word used in the Quran is just bone which describes the motion of a moving body. When it refers to a celestial body it means it is rotating about its own axis. So Quran says the sun and the moon the revolve, as well as rotate about the own axis. Today we have come to know that the sun takes approximately 25 days to complete one rotation.
It was Edwin Hubble, who discovered that the universe is expanding the Quran phase in Surah chapter 51 Muslim 47 that we have created the expanding universe, the vastness of space. The Arabic word most IANA refers to vast lists the expanding universe.
Regarding the topics on astronomy with Dr. William Campbell touched, I will deal in the rebuttal inshallah.
In the field of water cycle, buddy William Campbell pointed out certain things. The Quran describes the water cycle in great detail. And William Campbell mentioned four stages. In his book he mentions for A and B, the last one he didn't mention in the slide. I don't know why. It says that replenishing the water table. He missed out here, maybe because not mentioned the Bible.
He said there is not a single verse in the Quran, which speaks about evaporation.
Koran says in Surah Parikh chapter number 86 was number 11. Raja sama said by the capacity of the heavens to return and almost all the commentary of the Quran they said that this was also retired chapter 86 was number 11 refers to the capacity of the heaven to return back reign, meaning repetition.
So the William Campbell who knows Arabic may say, why didn't Allah subhanaw taala specifically mentioned was somites after matter, meaning, the capacity of the event to return back again. Why did Allah mention specifically?
Now we have come to know why didn't Allah do that in his divine wisdom, because today we have come to know that besides those on the sphere, the layer above the earth besides returning back rain, it even returns back other beneficial matter and energy of the earth which is recovered by the human beings.
It does not only turn back rain, today we have come to know it even returns back waves, of telecommunication, of television of radio by which we can see TV, we can communicate. We can hear the
Radio. And besides that, it even returns back the harmful rays of the outer space back on the other side and absorbs. For example, the ultraviolet rays of the sun light is absorbed by the ionosphere. If this was not done, life on the earth would cease to exist. So Allah subhanho wa Taala is far superior
and far more accurate and effective. Roger summer by the capacity of the haven't returned.
And the remaining thing, as you mentioned, is there in the Quran. You can refer to my video said the Quran describes the water cycle in great detail regarding what he said about the Bible. He sought stage one and stage three in the first slide. And the second stage one three, and then two, that the rainwater is taken up, he says, and then the rainwater comes around the Earth. This is the philosophy of phase of millet this in seventh century BC, he thought that the spirit of the ocean was picked up by the wind and fell into the interior as rain. There's no cloud mentioned there.
In the second condition Dr. William Campbell gave first is, according to him repetition, which we agree, we don't mind having the concordance approach to the Bible.
Then rain falls down and then the clouds formed, that is on the computer cycle.
Alhamdulillah the Quran describes the water cycle in great detail in several places. How does the water rise evaporates from two clouds, the clouds joined together, they stack up the thunder and lightning water comes down the cloud who is the interior they fall down as rain and the repetition of the water table and hamdulillah in great detail.
The Quran speaks about the word cycle in great detail in several places. In surah, chapter number 24 was no 43 industry room chapter number 30 verse 48, in chapter 39, verse 21, in chapter 23, verse number 18, is room chapter number 30 verse number 24. In chapter 15, verse number 22, in chapter number seven verse no 57 in for chapter number 13, verse number 17, instead of for concept 25 was no 40 and 49.
Instead of fatter check number 35. Most number nine in
less than 134. In three, jack says number 45 verse number five in chapter number 50 verse number nine is Riva ketchup, no 56 was the most he stayed in 17 several places after 60 there was 30 the Glorious Quran speaks about the water cycle in great detail.
William Campbell spent maximum time on embryology about half his talk quite a lot on geology and touched on other six topics I've noted down
in the field of geology, we have come through today.
The geology they tell us that the radius of the Earth is approximately 3750 miles and the deeper layers they are hot and fluid and cannot sustain life.
And the superficial part of the Earth's crust which we live on, it is very thin, hardly one to 30 miles, some portions are thicker, but majority one to 30 miles and there are a high possibility that this superficial layer of the Earth's crust it will shake it is due to the folding phenomena which gives rise to mountain ranges which gives stability to desert for unsafe in front of a chap number 78 was number six and seven. We have made the earth as an expanse was jabaal Tada and the mountains as takes. The Quran doesn't say mountains were thrown up Aztecs mountains s takes Arabic word out that means takes meaning tent peg and today we have come to know
in the study of modern geology, that mountain has got deep roots.
This was known in the second half of the 20th century.
And the superficial part that we see of the mountain is a very small percentage. The deeper part is within exactly like a steak, how it will remain in the ground. You can only see a small pot on top, the majority is down in the ground, all at the tip of the iceberg. You can see the tip on the top and about 90% is beneath water.
The Quran says
in Surah Russia, Chapter 88 was the 19 answer and as yet, chapter number 79 was number 32 was the Bella Ursa and we have made the mountain standing firm on the earth with the mountains standing firm on here.
Today, after modern geology has advanced, another William Campbell said that by the theory of plate tectonics, it was founded in 1960 which give rise to mountain ranges. The geologists today do say that the mountains
Give stability to the earth. Not all geologists, but many do say, I have not come across a single geological book. And I challenge Dr. William Campbell to produce a single geological book, not his personal correspondence with the geologists, that doesn't get his personal correspondence with Dr. Keith Moore, documented proof. And if you read the book, the earth, which is referred by almost all the universities in the field of geology, one of its authors by the name of Dr. Frank press, who was the adviser to the former president of USA, Jimmy Carter, and was the president of the Academy of Sciences of USA. He writes, in his book, that the mountains of worship, it has deep roots within and
he says that the function of the mountain is to stabilize the earth. And the Quran says in Surah ambia, chapter number 21, was number 3183. Look man, Chapter 31, verse number 10, as well as his friend nalsap number 16, verse number 15, that we have made the mountain standing firm on the earth less it would shake
with them and with you.
The function of the mountain in the Quran is given to prevent the earth from shaking. Nowhere does the Quran say that the mountain prevents the earthquake.
And what William Campbell said, he writes in his book and even the talk that you find in the mountainous regions, there are various earthquakes and mountains cause earthquake point to be noted. Nowhere does the Quran say that mountain prevents earthquake the Arabic word for earthquake, as Dr. William Campbell knows Arabic is resolved as as Allah. But the words used in the fevers that quoted it is tamina tamina, Mr. Shaikh 2323. And Quran says in Surah lukeman, Chapter 31, verse number 10, as well as read nalsap number 16, verse 15, we have put on the earth mountain standing firm, lest it would shake with you it is Tomita become shake with you indicating if the mountains are not there.
If you would have worked, if you would have moved, even the other move with you.
If you left sweet, even there today straight with you. And we know normally when we walk on the earth, there doesn't shake. And the reason for this is according to Dr. Frank lawless, and Dr. Machar who from Saudi Arabia, and he wrote a full book on George legal concepts in the Koran, answering almost everything what William Campbell has said in detail.
And William Campbell, in his book, he writes that if mountains prevent the shaking of the earth, then how come you find earthquake in the mountainous regions. I said, nowhere does the Quran fe mountain permits earthquake earthquake is dissolved. And if you see the definition in the Oxford Dictionary, it says earthquake is due to conversion of the superficial crust of the earth due to relief of compressed seismic waves due to crack in the rock or due to volcanic reaction.
Quran presupposes Allah in chapter 99. But gh speaks about Tommy that become to prevent the earth from shaking with you. And in reply to the statement that if mountains prevent earthquakes, how can you find earthquakes in mountainous region? The replies that if I say that medical doctors, they prevent the sickness and disease in a human being and if someone argues if doctors prevent the sickness and diseases in a human being How come you find more sick people in the hospital, whether our doctors then at home whether no doctors
in the field of oceanology Douglas grant says in chapter 25 was the 53 that it is allowed was that fee to be bodies of flowing water, one sweet and palatable. They are the salt and butter, though they meet they're not mixed between them there is a barrier which is forbidden to be trespassed for answers for chapter 55 verse number 1920. Manager perennial Tolkien by numbers Elia piane. It is Allah who has let free two bodies of flowing water, though they meet they will not mix between them there is a barrier which is forbidden to be trespassed. Previously the commenter of the Quran wondered what does the Quran mean? We know about sweetened saltwater, but between them there is a
barrier, though they made the not mix. Today after advancement of oceanology we have come to know that whenever one type of water flows into the other type of water, it loses its constituents and gets homogenized into the water it flows there is a slanting homogenizing area with the Quran refers to as the unseen barrier. And this has been agreed upon by several scientists, even of America by the name of Dr. Hay, devotional ease.
And William Campbell writes in his book
That it is an observable phenomena. The fisherman of that time knew there were two types of water, salt and sweet. So Prophet Muhammad during an expedition to Syria, he may have gone in the sea or he might have spoken to the fishermen.
Through heat and saltwater is an observable phenomena I agree, but people did not know that there was an unseen barrier until recently. The scientific point to be noted here is the birds are not the speed in the saltwater.
In the field of embryology
for William Campbell spend approximately half of his talk on that
time you're not permitted to reply to every small things which are illogical. I'll just give a brief reply, which will be satisfactory inshallah. And for more details, you can refer to my video cassette, Quran, modern science and other concepts on Quran in medical science.
There were a group of Arabs who collected the data dealing in the Quran, about embryology and the Hadees dealing with embryology and the person needed to prefer the Quito
who was the chairman of the head of the department of anatomy in the University of Toronto, in Canada.
And at present, he is one of the leading scientists in the field of embryology.
After reading the various translations of Quran, he was asked to come in and he said, most of the verses of the Quran the Hadith are in perfect conformity with modern embryology. But there are a few verses which I cannot say that they are right. Neither can I say that they are wrong, because I myself don't know about it. And two such verses were the first verse of the Quran to be revealed from Accra for Allah. Chapter 96 was number one and two, we say, Accra, this mirror because the color color Collinson, amin, Allah read, recite a proclaim in the name of the Lord who created who created the human beings from something which clings knowledge like substance
not a William Campbell statement, that to analyze the meaning of a word, you have to see what was the meaning. At that time it was even at that time when the book was written.
And you rightly said that to analyze the meaning you have to analyze the meaning at the time it was revealed, and to the people who it was meant for, as far as this statement is concerned, regarding the Bible, I do agree with that totally because the Bible was only meant for the children of Israel for that time. It's mentioned the Gospel of Matthew, chapter number 10, verse number four in fixed, Jesus Christ peace be upon him tells his disciples going not in the way of the Gentiles, who are the Gentiles, the non Jews, the Hindus, the Muslims, but rather go to the last tip of the house of Israel, Jewish guys peace be upon him said, and the Gospel of Matthew chapter number 15, verse
number 24, I am not sent back to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So Jesus Christ and the Bible, were only meant for the children of Israel, since it was meant for them. To analyze the Bible, you have to use the meaning of the word which was utilized at that time. But the Quran was not meant only for the Arabs of that time. Koran is not meant only for the Muslims. The Quran is meant for the whole of humanity.
And it is meant to be for eternity. Quran says in chapter 14, verse 52, in Surah Baqarah chapter number two was 185 answer is Omar chapter 39, verse 41, that the Quran is meant for the whole of humankind. And Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was not sent only for the Muslim the Arabs. Allah says in the Quran in surah chapter number 21 was the 107 mama at sanaka in LA Rahmatullah mean that we have Cindy as mercy as guidance to the whole of mankind.
So as far as the Quran is concerned, you cannot limit the meaning only for that time, because it is meant for eternity.
So one of the meanings of Allah is least like substance, or something which claims to prophecy, Keith Moore said, I do not know whether the early stage of embryo looks like a leech, and he went in his authority. And he analyzed the early stage of an embryo under a microscope and compare it with a photograph of a leech and he was astonished at the striking resemblance.
This is a photograph of a leech and human embryo.
What Dr. William Campbell showed you is the other perspective of it.
If I showed this book, it looks like a rectangle. If I show you like that,
it's a different perspective.
That diagram is given in the book. The diagram is shown on the side is given there and a little bit inshallah
Professor Keith Moore, after about 80 questions asked to him, he said, if you'd have asked me these 80 questions 30 years ago, I would not be able to answer more than 50%. Because embryology has developed recently in the past 30 years. He said this in the 80s.
Now, do we believe in Dr. Keith Moore, who statement is available outside in the fire? If videocassettes available, this is the third unknown, recorded statement? So will you believe Dr. William cambus, personal conversation with Professor Keith Moore
or the one mentioned this book
with some addition, as well as the photographs that are shown to you?
And in the videos are available outside you can see he makes those statements. So you have to choose which is more logical personal discussion without the William Campbell or his statement on video, like how did William Campbell showed my video, and it wasn't proof what I said, Moon is reflected light or complete later on.
And whatever additional information you got from Friday, it was incorporated later
into the book, the developing human the third edition. And this book got an award for the best medical book written by a single author in that year. This is the Islamic edition that was put forward by Shaykh Abdullah Zindani and certified by Keith Moore himself.
The Quran says
in Surah maamoun. Chapter 23 was number 13 and three, Chapter 22 was number five and no less than 11 different places in the Quran that the human beings have been made from an earth for a minute quantity of liquid
like a trickle that's remaining in the cabinet fine Arabic a small quantity. Today they have come to know in one So mine is a mission in which there are several millions of sperm, only one is required to fertilize the ovum. The Quran refers as
Brian says, His research laboratory was made we have created the human beings from Salalah that means the best part of a whole the one sperm which fertilizes
the OVA out of the millions of sperm. The Quran refers to as for Allah best part of the whole. And Quran says in Surah insan chapter 30 verse number two, we have created the human beings from within
a minute quantity of mingle fluid referring to the sperm as well as the ovum. Both are required for the fertilization.
The Quran describes the various embryological stages in great detail of which the slides are shown to you by the William Campbell. He helped me to complete this topic.
It's mentioned for a moment on chapter 23, verse number 12 to 14.
The translation is that we have created the human beings from a minor quantity of liquid then placed it in Accra McKean, a place of security.
Then, we made it into an alpaca lychee like substance, something which cleans up a lot of blood. When we made that alaka into America, I chewed like lamb.
Then we made the mofga into Adama bones, they included the bones with lamb flesh, then we made it a new creature, blessing be Allah who's the best to create. The three verses of the Quran speak about the various embryonic stages in great detail for the Natasha placed in a place of security marry into an alpaca, alpaca has got three meanings.
One is something which clings and we know that in the initial stages, the embryo clings
to the uterine wall and continues clinging till the end.
that it also means
at least like substance, and as I discussed earlier, the embryo in the initial stages does look like a leech. Besides looking like a leech, it also behaves like a leech. It receives its birth supply from the mother like a blood sucker. And the third meaning, which Dr. William Campbell objected to that, that is right meaning the contribute of blood, and that's why Quran has a scientific error. And I do agree with him that Dr. William Campbell didn't agree. He said, How can it mean a congealed blood because this is the case in the Quran is wrong. I'm sorry to say Quran is not wrong. Not to William Campbell with due respect to him. He's wrong. Because today Today, after advancement of
embryology, even Dr. Keith Moore he says that in the initial stages
The embryo beside looking like a leech also looks like a congealed lot of blood. Because in the initial stages of the stage of alika, three to four weeks, the blood is plotted within closed vessels. And that to William Campbell made it easy for me, he showed you a slide.
It will be difficult for you to see, but this is the slide he showed you. This is exactly what the Keith Moore said, looks like a clock in which the blood is plotted within closed vessels. And during the third week of the embryo, the blood circulation doesn't take place. It starts later on. Therefore, it assumes the appearance of a plot. And even if you observe the concept is that after abortion takes place,
you can see it looks like a clot. Only one line answer is sufficient to answer all the allegations of Dr. William Campbell is that the stages of the Quran, violet describes the embryological stages is only based on appearance. appearance. First is the appearance of a alika at least next appearance, as well as a crowd of blood and division. Campbell rightly said that some ladies come and ask please remove the clot.
It doesn't like a clot and the stages are based on appearance. It is created from something which appears like a clot which appears like a leech and is also something which clings then the Quran says we made that Allah kind to him with gratitude like lamb prophecy Keith Moore took plaster seal and bit between his teeth to make it look like a Messiah. The teeth Mark resemble the soulmates.
Tara William Campbell said, when the aloka become the Buddha,
the clinging is yet there.
It is dead laden off months.
So the Quran is wrong. I told you in the beginning, the Quran is describing the appearance, the leech like appearance and the cloth like appearance is changed to the chewed like appearance. It led continues to clean till the end there's no problem but the stages are divided on appearance, not on the function.
Later on Quran says we made the mud guide to his alma bones, they included the bones with flesh
for a William Campbell said, and I do agree with him that the precursors of the muscles and the cartilage is that is the bones. They form together. I agree with that.
Today embryology tells us that the primordia of the muscles and the bones they formed together between the 25th and the 14th day with the Quran the first stage of mukha but they are not developed. They are not developed later on.
At the end of the seventh week, the embryo takes form of human appearance, then the bones are formed. Today modern embryology says the bones are formed after the 42nd day
and it gives an appearance of a skeletal thing. Even at this stage when the bones are formed, the muscles aren't formed later on after the seventh week, and the starting of eighth week are the muscles formed. So Quran is perfect in describing first Allah ta then mooska then is a man then coated with flesh and when they form, the description is perfect. And Professor Keith Moore said that the stage is that how it is described modern embryology stage 12345. It's so confusing. The Quranic stage on embryology, describing on the basis of appearance and the shape is far more superior.
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therefore, he said that I have no objection in accepting that Prophet Muhammad is the Messenger of God, and that this Glorious Quran has to be a divine revelation from Almighty God.
It's mentioned in
chapter four verse 56,
it speaks about pain.
Previously, the doctors, they thought that the brain was only responsible for feeling of pain. Today we have come to know besides the brain, there are certain receptors in the skin, which are responsible for feeling of the pain, which we call as pain receptors. for answers for an ISA chapter 456. That asked to those who reject our science, we shall cast them into the hellfire. And as often as the skins are roasted, we shall give them fresh skin so that they should feel the pain indicating there is something in the skin, which is responsible for feeling of pain with the Quran referred to as pain receptors.
Professor Tanaka, Shawn, who is the head of the department of anatomy, in Chiang Mai University in Thailand, only on the basis of this one was he proclaimed the Shahada in the eighth medical conference in Riyadh and said Lyla, Illallah Muhammad Rasul Allah, that there's no God but Allah
And Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is the Messenger of Allah.
I started my talk
by quoting the Quran from Surah forcella chapter 41 was 53 with his son Rahim Maya Tina Fey lavake Buffy unfussy him
and Nola Mira, Becca and Noah Felicia and Shaheed that soon wishes for them over science in the further you know the horizons and into their soul, until it is clear to them that this is the truth.
This one was was sufficient
to prove to Dr. Tanaka, Shawn, that Quran is a divine revelation, some may require 10 signs, some may require 100. Some, even after 1000 signs are given, they will not accept the truth. Quran calls such people as in Surah Baqarah, chapter two verse number 18, sun moon, moon, June, the Deaf, the dumb, the blind, they will not return the true path. The Bible says the same thing in Gospel of Matthew chapter number 13 verse number 13. Seeing they see not during the year not neither will they understand.
Regarding the other parts of embryology, I will deal in my rebuttal inshallah.
If time permits,
I have to do justice to the other part also regarding Bible in the light of science. At the outset, let me tell you that Quran says in Surah, Chapter 13, verse 38, that we have given several revolutions by name, only four I mentioned the Torah there's a board the Injeel and the Quran. The Torah is the ye that revelation which was given to Moses peace be upon him, the Buddha which was given to David peace be upon him, the angel is the ye the revelation which was given to Jesus peace be upon him. And Quran is the last and final revelation, which was given to the last and final messenger, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Let me make it very clear to everyone that
with the Christian belief, to be the Word of God, is not the Injeel, which the Muslims believe was revealed to Prophet Jesus peace be upon him. This Bible according to us,
it may contain the words of God, but it also contains words of prophets,
words of historians, it contains absurdities, affinity, as well, I've innumerable scientific errors.
If there are scientific points mentioned in the Bible,
there are possibilities Why not?
It may be part of the Word of God in the Bible. But what about the scientific errors? What about the unscientific portion? Can you attribute this to God?
I want to make it very clear to my Christian brothers and sisters.
The purpose of my presentation on Bible science is not to hurt any Christian feeling.
If I presenting if I hurt your feelings, I do apologize in advance. The purpose is only to point out that a God's revelation cannot contain scientific errors.
As in this case, piece of paper, he said, searches the truth and the truth shall for you. You have the Old Testament, you have the New Testament. Now you should follow the last and final testament which is
the Glorious Quran.
As far as Dr. William Campbell is concerned,
I can be more liberal with him. Because he has written the book Quran Bible in the light of history and science, you have given a presentation and the medical doctor, I don't have to be very familiar with him. As far as the other Christian brothers and sisters are concerned. I apologize if I hurt your feelings during the presentation. Let's analyze what does the Bible say about modern science?
First, we'll deal with astronomy.
The Bible speaks about the creation of the universe.
In the beginning, first book, book of Genesis, first chapter, it mentioned, it says Almighty God created
the heavens and the earth in six days and talks about evening and morning, referring to a 24 hour day. Today scientists tell us that the universe cannot be created in a 24 hour period of 60 days.
Quran to speech about six ions, the Arabic word singular, plural is a yam, it can either mean a day of 24 hours, or it is a very long period and yon and epoch. Scientists say we have no objection in agreeing that the universe it could have been created in six very long period. Point number two. Bible says in Genesis chapter number one was three and five light was created on first day. There is a separate one
the cause of light stars and the sun, etc, was created on fourth day? How can the cause of light be created on the fourth day later than the light, which came into existence on the first day? It's unscientific.
For the Bible says Genesis chapter one was nine to 13. Earth was created on the third day, how can you have a night and day without the earth? The day depends upon the rotation of the earth without the earth created? How can you have an end?
Point number four.
Genesis chapter number one was nine to 13 says it was created on third day, Genesis chapter one was foreign renting says the sun and the moon was created on the fourth day. Today, science tells us that Earth is part of the parent body, the sun, it cannot come into existence before the sun. It's unscientific. Point number five. The Bible says in Genesis step number one was number 11, to 13, the vegetation, the Herbes, the shrubs, the trees, they were created on the third day and the sun, Genesis, step number one, verse 1419, was created on the fourth day, how can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight?
Why number six,
that the Bible says in Genesis chapter one, was number 16, that God created two lights, the greater light, the sun, rules the day and the lesser light the moon, through the night, the actual translation will go to the Hebrew text, it is lamps,
lamps, having light of its own, and that you will come to know better if you read both the verses Genesis chapter one, verse 1617, verse number 13, says, an almighty God placed them in the form of men to give light to the earth, to give light to the earth, indicating that sun and the moon have its own light, which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge that we have