The Qur’an and the Bible in the Light of Science – vs Dr William Campbell #3

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there is no God

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is great.

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Now my call upon Dr. William Campbell to present his response to Dr. Zakir Naik

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Well, Dr. Knight has brought up some real problems.

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I don't agree with his answer about the current in terms of the olika and modaraba. I still think it's a big problem.

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But that's his opinion and my opinion. So everybody will have to go home and think about it themselves.

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He spoke about he hasn't mentioned met any person that

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took the poison test.

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I can't present the person because he's already gone to be with the Lord. But I have friend Harry Radcliffe.

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And he lived in a town in the south of Morocco.

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And one of his people who he thought was a friend

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invited him over for lunch for a dinner.

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And he invited the wife and son also.

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And so when Harry agreed to go, somebody came and knocked on the door and said, the man's going to poison you.

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So they went, Harry took this very verse that you've read,

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and he decided that he should go because he had said he would.

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So he went, he waited, hoping to find a time when when the man brought in the West Coast, he could turn with the man would go out and he could turn the Christmas around.

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But there was no such time.

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So he dug in and he ate.

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His wife was too she was unable to eat very much. And they had fed their son before they went.

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But Harry ate.

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And that night, Harry got pains in his tummy.

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And he had some blood.

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But he lived. And so two days later, he went knocked on the door. And the man came and opened the door in his face one absolutely white.

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And Harry thanked him for the meal.

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I thought so I gave you this one example anyway.

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Now you have said about

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Jesus was only sent to the Jews go only go to the fifth of June to and not to the Gentiles.

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Well, in the Quran itself,

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it talks about Mary. And then she says, I don't know any man. In Surah 1921. Then it says that Jesus is to be a sign on demand, and a mercy from Us.

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In Matthew four, nine,

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a lady came and anointed Jesus feet. He said, whenever there wherever this gospel is preached in the whole world, what this woman has done will be told.

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And in Matthew 28, when Jesus is about to ascend into heaven, He says, Go into all the world and preach the gospel.

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Well, this is not a contradiction.

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He did say to his disciples go only to the Jews, because the Jews were given a certain chance.

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There's a story in the Bible, send us a story where it's story, I suppose, but history where Jesus came to a fig tree.

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And the fig tree had brought no fruit for three years.

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And so then, he said, shall I tear it down?

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And then Jesus answer was no. Leave it one more year. And we'll fertilize it and see if it brings any fruit. This was all a parable about Israel. He had preached to them three years, and he would preach another half.

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But then there are other parables that he told where he said, All right, it'll be taken away from you the blessing and given to the Gentiles.

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Dr. nikas talked about the day and the periods.

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The day and the Bible also can have the time of a long period doesn't have to be 24 hours as Dr. Wu Chi wanted to exist in his book. And I believe that it was was long periods of time.

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And there are so these problems that he has said, and I don't deny them, and I don't have good answers for them. But I will tell about

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He spoke about

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the two kinds of salt the Sweetwater and the salt water.

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I don't agree with his explanation.

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The Koran says, has, God has let free the two barriers do bodies of flowing water meeting together between them as a barrier which they do not transgress, then which are the very favorites of your Lord will you deny? The word used here for barriers barsuk means interval or gap or break or bar or obstruction are estimates.

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The same information is given an hour for con 25 5053. It is he who is lead free the two bodies of flooring flowing water, one palatal paddle to bowl and sweet and the other salty and bitter and he made between them a barrier and a partition that it is forbidden to pass. The phrase a partition that it is forbidden to pass represents two words from the same root. This is done in Arabic distress or accent whatever is being discussed. The word has your means forbidden, interdicted prohibited, all very strong words and the second word which is the last participle of the verb has the same past participle of the verb as the same meanings. Therefore, very literally one might

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translate this as he God made between them a bar and forbidden forbidden.

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Dr Buckeye discusses this briefly. And then he he says though he admits at the end while it makes us far out to see

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a scientist friend commenting on this said it is simply that the salt and freshwater are physically separated

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the effluent from the river displacing the seawater, but there is no barrier thermodynamically the mixing is a spontaneous immediate process highly favored by entropy, the only barrier is kinetic, it takes a long time for that much stuff, the mix, I myself have had a tiny example of this, I had a friend in Tunisia, and he used to collect he used to hunt for for for occupy. So I went there once and I jumped out of the boat and was swimming around. And it was right at the at the where our small creek came in.

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And the top water

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was cold and the bottom water was hot, I thought how can this be the top is cold and the bottom is hot. And then I realized the cold water was coming off of the front of the river and the salt water is heavy. So the was salt warm water was on the bottom and the cold light water was at the top. So there is but there is no barrier.

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Dr. nyck spoke about languages. And of course I am not able to answer about the languages in in India. What I couldn't answer about the Indian languages in America either. So it's no different between India and America. However, the place that he talks about in the Bible, the disciples were given languages as a miracle. But they were the main languages that the people who were there knew

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they weren't weak languages that were unknown. If somebody came from Spain, and apostles spoke to that person in his language from Spain, if another person came from Turkey, and different apostle spoke to the other person, in his language from Turkey.

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I'm going to

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go to something that I prepared to give

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and talk about witnesses.

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In Deuteronomy, God told Moses the way to know true prophet was did his prophecy come true.

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Elijah is an example Elias in the car and he went to the king and he told him it's not gonna rain till I say so.

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And so it was six months and no rain a year and no rain. Once in Tunisia, there was a whole year with no rain. Then two years with no rain, and three years and three and a half years. And then Elijah went to the king. And he said, we're going to have a contest, and they went up on Mount Carmel and they had this contest and the king lost and then the

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And it says that Elias had a major wonderful victory.

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But then Elias fell down on his knees, Elijah, and he prayed for rain, and the rain came.

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Well, Elijah is the first witness. When he said it's not gonna rain till I say so he was the first witness. When God made the rain come. When Elijah fell down on his knees, God Himself was the second witness.

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Another example is Isaiah 750 BC. The Jews were sent into exile, he prophesied they'd be sent to exile. And then Cyrus would bring them back. Cyrus who Cyrus 250 years later, Cyrus, a Persian pagan king, sent the Jews back to Israel,

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back to Palestine. And there's a Cyrus cylinder in London that talks about it.

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So in ask the question, Did Jesus fulfilled prophecies? did Jesus do miracles that Jesus make prophecies?

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We're going to make a mathematical study of prophecies. It's called the theory of probabilities.

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estimate and we'll estimate the possibility that these prophecies could be fulfilled by chance. An example of this is supposing Dr. Nick has 10 shirts. And he I know he has a red shirt. And I say tomorrow he's gonna wear the red shirt. And tomorrow he does. And so then I say I'm a prophet.

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Well, my friends are gonna say no, no, that just happened by chance. Well, then supposing Dr. Samuel naman he has two pairs of shoes and this pair of sandals. So then the next day, I prophesy what shirt the doctor Nikes gonna wear and I practice prophesied that Dr. Samuel naman is going to wear his sandals.

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And doctors LBL Li man, he has five hats. And I say he's going to wear his turban. Well, what are the chances that I could have all of these right? By chance? Oh, it's gone away. Anyway, all right, you multiply one over 10 by one over five by one over three.

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And you get one over 150. And that's my chance of getting it by luck. Is it possible to have the slide projector down please. I mean these the

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screen down

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while the time is going and we're going to look at what 10 prophecies, and then one which we will not count because at first what we want to prove.

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The first one

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is

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a prophecy and Jeremiah prophecy and Jeremiah 600 BC, that the Messiah must feed from the posterity of David. The days are coming declares the Lord when I will raise up to David a righteous branch, a king who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. He will be called the Lord Yahweh our righteousness.

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In the fulfillment was in the six month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to Mary. The angel said to her Do not be afraid, Mary behold, you will conceive in your woman bear a son, he will be called Jesus He will be great and we call the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David and his his kingdom there will be no end. And the angel said to her, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.

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Therefore the child to be born will be called holy.

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Well, when David was first, he was just from a small family. But after he became king and his family was known, then everybody would remember if they were the fifth cousin of the king. So I'm going to assume that one and 200 Jewish people belong to the family of David.

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The second prophecy is an everlasting rulers to be born in Bethlehem,

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Micah 750 BC, but you will Bethlehem Ephrata, who are little to be among the clans of Judah. From you shall come forth for me one who has to be ruler in Israel, whose origin is from of old from ancient days.

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And the fulfillment though Jews Joseph and Mary lived in Nazareth because of an order from

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Caesar Augustus Joseph had to take Mary to Bethlehem, his native town.

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In the fulfillment, it says and Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth to Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem. Because he was of the house and lineage of David. And while there she gave birth to her firstborn son. Well, what's the chance of being born in Bethlehem?

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There's about 2 million, 2 billion people were born in the world from mica until now.

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And 7000 live in Bethlehem. So one man out of every 280,000 men

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was born in Bethlehem.

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The third prophesy a messenger will prepare the way for the Messiah.

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This was done by Malak Chi and chapter three, one and 400 bc Behold, I send my message to prepare the way before me.

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And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple. The Messenger of the covenant is whom you delight, in whom you delight, behold, he is coming since the LORD of hosts, the fulfillment, the next day, john, john the baptist, yeah, here, but even zecharia saw Jesus coming toward him and said, Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, after me comes a man who ranks before me, for he was before me. And to this the car annagrace also in the story of the family of him ran 390 3945 when it says that Yeah, he has to come with the sing the truth of a word from God, whose name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary. Well, how many leaders

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had a foreigner? Well, that's hard to say. But why put down one man and 1000 was a leader who had a foreigner.

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The fourth prophecy, the Messiah will do many signs and miracles.

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And I say a 750 we read, say to those with fearful hearts, be strong and do not fear your God will come and he will save you. then will the eyes of the blind be opened and the years of the death beyond stopped? then will the lame you leap like a deer in the sunken tongue of the dumb shout for joy, the fulfillment the gospel states that does the core and that Jesus did many miracles. The Bible speaks of only four prophets who did many miracles, Moses, Elijah, Elijah and Jesus. Jesus is the only one that did all four types of miracles mentioned in the prophecy. And he sometimes healed all who came to him.

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Well, since many Muslims believe there were 124,000 prophets, we will use that number and say that Jesus was the one man and 124,000.

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The fifth prophecy, in spite of these signs, his brothers were against him. In a psalm of David 1000 BC, he says, I've come become a stranger to my brother, and alien to my mother's sons.

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And then john, he gives the fulfillment.

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So his brothers said to him, leave here and go to Judea, for even his brothers did not believe in him.

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Our question might be one ruler, and how many would have find his family against him? Well, many kings were overthrown by their own relatives. Therefore, we will say one in five, or two times 10 to the first power.

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And the sixth prophecy.

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It's given by Zachariah and 520 BC, Rejoice greatly Oh, daughter of Zion shouto, daughter of Jerusalem. Behold, your king comes on to you he is just and having salvation, lowly and riding upon an ass, the fulfillment. The next day the great crowd took some farm branches and went out to meet him shouting Hosanna

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Blessed is he Who comes in the name of the Lord bless it is the king of Israel. And Jesus found a young donkey and sat upon it. Well, obviously Jesus chose to sit upon the donkey. That's no miracle. It's nothing unusual. But the crowd was there and the crowd came and and praised him and said bless it is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Well, how many rulers entered Jerusalem?

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How many rulers enter Jerusalem on a donkey? Nowadays, he come on a mentor in a Mercedes. But one roller I said one ruler in 100 100.

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The seventh prophecy Jesus foretells the destruction of the temple, he himself to get the prophecy. So Jesus said this in some time in 30 ad, and as Jesus was going out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him, teacher, Behold what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings

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Jesus said to him, do you see these great buildings, not one stone shall be left upon another which will not be torn down.

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In the fulfillment about 40 years later in 70 ad the Roman general Titus captured Jerusalem after a long siege. Titus had intended to spare the temple, but the Jews set it on fire.

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Well for the Jews to revolt and then be crushed would be common. So I said one chance and five.

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For the eighth prophecy, the Messiah will be crucified.

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In Psalms David wrote 1000 BC, a band of evil man has crucified has encircled me. They have pierced my hands and my feet are Jesus. David didn't die this way. He died in his bed. His feet were not here where his feet and hands were not pierced. Luke gives us the fulfillment. When they came to the place called the skull, there they crucified Jesus along with the criminals. One on his right, the honor on his left. Our question is one man and how many has been crucified? What I said one man and 10,000

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the prophesy nine, they will divide his garments and cast a lot for his role.

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Again, this is David speaking. They divided my garments among them and cast slots for my clothing.

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Well, john gives us the fulfillment in chapter 19. When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. Let's not tear it, they said let's decide by lot who will get it? Well, how many criminals would have a seamless garment where you can make your own decision, but I said one in 100.

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The 10th prophesy,

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though innocent, he would be countered with the wicked and with the rich and his death.

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Isaiah said in 750 BC, he was assigned to grave with the wicked, and with the rich and his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. He was numbered with the trans guests.

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Matthew gives us the fulfillment.

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They crucified two robbers with him. As evening approach, there came a rich man from era mithya

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named Joseph, a disciple of Jesus going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus body, Joseph wrapped it in a clean linen cloth and placed it in his own too. Well, how many executed criminals were innocent? Well, I said, One man and 10.

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And how many innocent man or how many criminals were buried with the rich, I say one man and 100, that gives one in 1000.

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Finally,

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the prophecy after dying, he will rise from the dead.

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In Isaiah again, it says, For he was cut off from the land of the living, he died. And though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days. So there is a there is a prophecy that he will be come back to life. Luke tells us Jesus Himself stood among them and said to them, peace be with you.

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And then

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Paul gives us a summary in First Corinthians 15, that Jesus appeared to Peter, and then to the 12th. After that, he appeared to more than 500 of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, then to James, Jesus, half brother, then to all the apostles.

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Well, that's not something you can give a value to.

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So now we're going to look at the calculation.

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One man and how many men, the world over will fulfill fulfill all 10 prophecies. This question can be answered by multiplying all of our estimates, I'm not gonna have time to read them, but the answer is one chance, and two times 2.78 times 10 to the 2828 zeros. let us simplify and reduce the number by calling it one times 10 to the 28.

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The best information available indicates the number of men who ever lived to be about 88 billion. We'll call that one times 10 to the 11th. By dividing these two numbers, we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all 10 prophecies by luck is one in 10 to the 17th. That's written out this way was 17 zeros.

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Well, let's try and imagine this

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If you took the state of Texas, and you covered it with dollar coins, one meter deep three feet deep silver dollars, and then one coin was marked electrically. And then I say there, go walk out into the state of Texas and pick the right coin. That's your chance of picking the right coin by chance. In other words, it's no chance.

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I'm having trouble just a minute.

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There are many more prophecies. These all show the Prophet David RSI Isaiah is the first witness. God causing fulfillment is the second witness. And God caused the disciples of Jesus to write it down. These are all proofs that the Bible is true and from Yahweh Elohim. The Gospel says that Jesus came from God and paid the penalty for our sins. This is good news. The Koran has hard news, sir and now 1661 says, if a law were to punish men for their wrongdoing, he would not leave on Earth a single living creature.

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The problem is that the current state is very clear that even those who have done their best are given only a maybe in the sort of their narration of cassettes. It says but as for him who shall repent and believe and do right, perhaps assign he may be one of the successful

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in the forbidding a to hareem it says oh you who believe repent toward Allah with a sincere repentance. It may be that your Lord will repent from you your evil do deeds in the sort of repentance Toba. It says those only show worship in the mosques of Allah who believe in the law and the last day and observed proper worship, and give arms and fear non accept the law. And it might be that these are of the rightly guided. In the end, it's very lonely. If a person does not believe that he's sure to go to hell. But if he doesn't believe on the Day of Judgment, he stands there all by himself in front of a law. There is no intercessor our friend, and he can only hope that maybe

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perhaps he might be among the blessing. This is hard news.

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Were in his decks dition dictionary translates as cyan as it might be, it could be that possibly maybe perhaps, in the Oxford Dictionary, English for English, Arabic, perhaps is translated as so.

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This may be true, but it's hard. On the other hand, the gospel has good news. Jesus said I did not come to be served but to serve to give my life a ransom for many. Another verse from Paul the Apostle says, if you confess with your mouth, that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saying straight out.

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This is wonderful, good news.

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You read with me these fulfilled prophecies as proofs. There were 500 people who saw a Christ after he rose from the dead. There are many archaeological finds confirmed the Bible. I heard you get a copy of the Bible of the gospel. Read it, you will find good news for your soul. May God bless you all. Thank you.

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I now call upon Dr. Zakir Naik to present his response to Dr. William Campbell.

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Alhamdulillah

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wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah Allah Allah vasavi Germaine Ahmad Billahi min ash shaytani r rajim Bismillah R Rahman Rahim Allah de Bruna Khurana

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Allah, Allah and kathira this Mila Rahman Rahim rubbished Elisa de Well, yes, sir Liam li

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la Sania Jakub golly,

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respected Dr. William Campbell.

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They are the people on the Dyess. My respected elders, and my dear brother and sisters, I welcome all of you once again with Islamic greetings. Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

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My peace, mercy and blessings of Almighty God beyond all of you that a William Campbell only touched on two out of the 22 points I made only two.

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The first point here is was he thinks that the days mentioned in the Bible.

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He refers to as long periods are only to give the report

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In my talk, that if you consider the days to be long period like the Quran, you can only solve two problems. The six day creation problem, and first day light came, and third the earth, but the remaining four problems yet is there. So Dr. William Campbell chose to say days a long period and out of six, he solved two scientific errors, the remaining four of the creation of the universe, he does agree to it. That's good.

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And he says it's difficult to answer. The second point he touched on was regarding the scientific tests of Mark chapter number 16, verse number 1718. And he said one of his friend by the name of Harry Potter, the name was in Morocco. In Morocco, he ate couscous.

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The Bible says, the King James version as well as the New International Version, which Dr. William Campbell refers to drink and deadly poison, not eat drink.

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Yet yet, I don't mind even a person is deadly poisonous or no problem. But imagine one man in Morocco. I'm told there are 2 billion Christians in the world. No one can come forward, not one out of the 2 million. And I thought Dr. William Campbell was a true Christian believer. And I asked him to pass the test, not his friend Paul, he died.

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And he said that blood came out of the mouth, Dr. William Campbell and even I know very well being medical doctors that have been poisoned, blood comes out and we cure many people of poisoned thought so great test is they should come forward and do all these things. And yet, you should be able to speak foreign tongues. I don't know William Campbell said

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that.

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At that time, if you read Gospel of Mark chapter 16 those people there they spoke the languages people knew

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and foreign tongues. Dr. William Campbell doesn't know that Indians out here surely many minority, Marathi even I know. Suppose if I asked you

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if I asked you to bring language lyrical, lyrical Tamil?

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no reply. Foreign tongues? lyrical. Anyone knows Tamil? malayalam vellum?

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Yes, very good. Are you a Christian believer?

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I must be that person there. You're a Muslim. And you find default supposed to be a test passed by Christian believers. There are many people in a foreign languages out here, only thing you had to do was speak to them. Like what is your name? How are you? Fine, I'm okay. If I look in Arabic, which you know, new languages, which you didn't know. And you proved my point. And yet I have not come across a single Christian who has passed the test in front of me Not a single out of the 1000s that meet personally and now can be 1001 after meeting Dr. William Campbell, only touched two points.

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Not a William Campbell did not reply to my 20 points and he started speaking about prophecy. What is prophecy to do with science in the Bible? If prophecy is the test,

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if prophecy the test the Nostradamus book should be the best book. Nostradamus book should be the best book to be called the Word of God.

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He spoke about theory of probability for the definition of theory of publicity, how you can analyze with the Quran with scientific facts. Refer to my video of acid is the Quran God's word

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it's ever been in the fire. I prove scientifically, how can you use theory of probability? Dr. William Campbell use you on the base of prophecy? If I want, I can try and prove his property wrong. I don't do it. I take it for granted for sake of argument using the concrete is approach that whatever prophecy said was right, for sake of argument, but even if there's one unfulfilled prophecy, the whole Bible is different for the Word of God. I can give you a list of unfulfilled prophecy. For example, if you read Genesis, chapter number four was number 12. It says God told Cain, you will never be able to settle. You will be a wanderer. few words later on Genesis chapter

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four, verse 13 says, can build up a city unfulfilled prophecy.

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If you read Jeremiah chapter number 36 was the Makati. It says that Joe Harkin the father of Georgian, no one will be able to sit on his throne, the throne of David no one will reset after jakim if read later on to Kings. Step number 24 verse number six. It says that joy came after he died later on Johansson sat on the throne. unfulfilled prophecy, one is sufficient to prove it's not the word of God I can give plenty if you're lucky. chap number 26. It says that named Richard he will destroy tire we come to know that Alexander the Great was the person who destroyed tire unfulfilled prophecy Isaiah chapter

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Seven Muslim 14 says prophesizing upcoming of a person will be born to a virgin. His name shall be a manual. They say the Christians, it refers to Jesus Christ peace be upon him. Born to a virgin. The Hebrew word is amla, which means not a virgin, a young lady. The word for virgin in Hebrew is batula, which is not there, even if we are using Concorde if we agree, Virgin, Virgin, no problem. It says he will be called Emmanuel. Nowhere in the Bible Jesus guys peace be upon him. It's called an Emmanuel, unfulfilled prophecy. I can give several plenty unfulfilled prophecy one day sufficient to prove the Bible wrong. I've given a few according to your theory of 30 operability Bible is not

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the word of God.

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But William Campbell said that according to the Quran, Elijah won the battle. According to the Bible, Elijah lost the battle whatever it is, that doesn't mean that Bible is correct and Quran is wrong. If the statements define the Bible and the Quran, you are assuming Bible is the Word of God. If both are supposed to be analyzed, it can be possible. The Quran is right. And Bible is wrong. It can be possible Bible is right and Quran is wrong, it can be possible both are wrong, it can be possible both are right, for you have to do if you have to analyze which of the two is wrong, you have to get a third source from outside which is authentic. Just because Bible says Elijah lost and

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Quran say Elijah one therefore Quran is wrong is illogical.

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And a William Campbell besides replying to scientific errors I mentioned

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I'll just touch on the points which I could not do lack of time. There are an additional six or seven points, which I mentioned in his talk, which inshallah I'll give the reply briefly.

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He spoke that the Quran safe,

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according to me, and he showed mica said of our Hindu brother, Shabbir Ali,

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that the light of the moon is reflected light. And he said it doesn't mean that I'm quoting again, the Quran mentioned in South Africa in chapter 25, verse 61, that bless it is he was placed in the sky constellation placed there in lamp, sun, and Moon, having borrowed light Munir Arabic word use for Moon is calmer. It's always described as Mooney or nude, meaning reflection of light, reflection of light, Arabic word use for fun if it's always described as wahat dia, which means a blazing torch, a shining glory, and I can give references for a new chapter number 3115 and 16. So you know, step number 10 was number five and so on.

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And he said that if it means a reflection of light, and he quoted the Quran for a new chapter number 24 was number 35 and 36 that Allah subhana wa Taala is Surah samata Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth. Read the complete verse and analyze what does it say it says, Allah is the light nude.

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It says, Allah is the light of heaven and the earth. It is a similitude like a niche and within the niche there is lamp, the lamp what is there, so Allah subhana wa Taala has got light of its own and even reflected light, like you see a halogen lamp.

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The lamp inside is like a Siraj but the reflector is like moon, it is reflecting light.

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The lamp the tube, the tube is having a light of its own, but the reflector of the halogen lamp is reflecting light to both to in mind. So Allah subhanaw taala Alhamdulillah besides having light of its own as the Quranic verses in the niche, there is a lamp

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and that lamp light of Allah subhanaw taala its own light, and Allah reflects his own light. To the William Campbell says that the Quran says, The Quran is nude, is reflecting light of course, the Quran is reflecting the light and the guidance of Allah subhanaw taala regarding Prophet homosassa Solomon says, Yes, he is the heartbeat of the Beloved Prophet is getting right into us. sama masala Salam is also known, he's also Suraj

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he has his own knowledge also on hamdulillah he has a guidance from Allah subhanho wa Taala Alhamdulillah. So if you use this word, nude as reflected light and mulia effect light, yet hamdulillah you can prove it scientifically that the light of the moon is not its own light, but it is the reflected light. There the points that are William Campbell raised was regarding

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chapter 18 verse number 86. That is name see if the sun setting in murky water and turbid water. Imagine sun setting in murky waters unscientific. The Arabic word used here is

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It is white,

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meaning it appeared to Zucker name. And William Campbell knows Arabic. So whatever that means, if you look up in the dictionary also, it means it appeared. So Allah subhanho wa Taala is describing what appeared to contain. If I make a statement that the student in the class said two plus two is equal to five, and you can say two plus two equal to five, I didn't say I'm telling the student in my class that two plus two is equal to five. I'm not wrong the student is wrong. There are various ways to try and analyze this was one is this way, my mother said that why did I miss it appeared, it appeared to zuka name, point number two,

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the Arabic word uses Muslim, it can be used for time as well as place when we say sunset, sunset can be taken for time if I say the sunsets at 7pm. I'm using it for time. If I say the sun sets in the west, it means I'm taking it for place. so here if we use the word Maghreb for time, so, so you can name not reach that place of sunset user at time he reached at the time of sunset, the problem is solved. Furthermore, you can solve it in various ways. Even Dr. William Campbell says no, no, the basic assumption is too much. It does not appear to it is actually this, let's analyze it further. The Quranic verses, the sun set in murky water. Now, we know when we use these words, like sunrise

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and sunset

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does the sunrise scientifically sound does not rise?

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Neither as a sunset. We know scientifically the sun does not set it off. It is the rotation of the Earth, which gives rise to sunrise and sunset. But yet, you read everyday in the papers, mentioning Sunrise at 6am, sunset at 7pm.

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All the newspapers are online scientific.

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If I use the word disaster, a disaster. Disaster means there's some calamity which is taking place. Literally, disaster means and even start. So when I say this disaster, everyone know what I mean? is a calamity. Not about the VISTA, not to William Campbell. And I know when a person who's mad, you call him a lunatic? Yes or no?

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At least I do. And I believe Dr. William camel also will be doing that we call a person a lunatic he's mad, what is the meaning of genetic it means struck by the moon.

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But that is how the language has evolved. Similarly, sunrise is actually it is just a usage of word. And Allah has given the guidance for the human beings also he uses so that we understand. So it is just suddenly not that is actually setting not the sun is actually rising. So this explanation clearly gives us a clear picture that the verse of the Quran of surah chapter 18 verse number 86, is not in contradiction with established and that is a way how people speak.

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He quoted sort of Oregon, Chapter 25 but 4546 that the shadow lengthens and prolong it, we can make it stationary. The sun is his guide. And in his book he mentions does the sun move?

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Where does this verse says the sun moves in Surah Furqan chapter 25 verse 4546, doesn't say the sun moves. And he writes in his book, we were taught in elementary school and he said that also in his talk, that it is due to the rotation of the Earth, that the shadow prolongs and gets small. But what the Quran says the sun is its guide. today. Even a person who has not gone to school knows that shadow is due to sunlight.

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Even a lay man who has not gone to school knows that shadow is due to sunlight. So Quran is perfectly right. It doesn't say the sun moves and the shadow is caused. He's putting his own words in the Quran.

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The sun is its guide. It's guiding

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the shadow. Without sunlight, you cannot have shadow

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is you cannot shadow the light. It's a different thing. But you're referring to the shadow which you see which is moving, belonging and becoming shot. For William Campbell spoke about Solomon's death.

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Sava chapter 34 was the modality 14 and said that imagine a person standing on the stick and he dies and no one comes to know etc.

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There are various ways to explain point number one, Solomon peace be upon him. You are the prophet of God.

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And it can be a miracle.

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When Bible says that Jesus Christ peace be upon him

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could give life to the dead sea this guy was born of a virgin birth, which is more difficult to imagine being born of a virgin birth.

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giving life to the dead, all standing on a stick for a very long time,

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which is more difficult. So when God can do miracles through Jesus Christ peace be upon him. Why can you do a miracle to Solomon? Salaam Musa Medina See? He threw a stick stick mccabes Nick Bible says the Quran says that when God can do that, why can't God later man read for a long period?

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Anyway, I give him various different answers. No, where does the Quran say that sramana salam rested on the stick for a very long period. Now what does it say? It just says that animal, maybe some say and maybe other animal of the earth came and

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many possible maybe nurserymen esalaam was just dead. And any animal may have shook the stick and Solomon Assad may have fallen down. But I assume I use the conflict of course with the Quran.

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Because irrespective whether you use the conflict approach, or the concordance approach, the I quote in the beginning of my talk, chapter four, verse two says of allies, the Bruna Quran Wanaka, meaning the gorilla lava defeated often kathira Do they not consider the Quran with Kay Had it been for many men besides Allah, they would have been many contradictions. Irrespective whether you use the conflict approach or the consultative approach. If you are logical, you will not be able to take out a single verse of the Quran, which is contradicting neither a single verse which is against the established stance.

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I agree with Dr. William Campbell, that Solomon Salam stayed for a long time. The answer is given the same verse that after SummerSlam fell down. The jinn said that if he had known that Solomon peace be upon him died, we wouldn't have also heard indicating that even the jinns don't have a gap. They don't have knowledge of the unseen

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religion taught themselves a very great fall as teaching them that even they don't have in Mega

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Laura William Campbell touched on the production of milk in front of hell chapter 15 verse 66, the first person

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who told about the circulation of blood within the feasts 600 years after the release of the Quran, and 400 days after the interface, William Harvey made it come into the Western world.

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That's 1000 years after

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the food you eat go into the interesting

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and from the interesting the food constituents reach the various organs via the bloodstream many a time via the portal system of liver

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and it even reaches the mammary gland which is responsible for production of milk. And Quran gives this information of modern science in a nutshell. In a nutshell, Chapter 16 verse 16 says that very lean the cattle is a lesson for you the giving you drink from what is within the body coming from a conjunction between the constituent of the interesting and blood milk which is pure for you to have

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hamdulillah what we came to know recently, just recently in science means 50 years back 100 years back Koran mentioned this information for 10 years ago and depleted this message in Surah mommy noon, Chapter 23 verse 21,

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for William Campbell raised the point about animal living in community. The Quran says in Surah Nam chapter six verse 38, we have created every animal that lives on the earth, and every bird that flies in the air to live in communities like you know, William Campbell says that, you know, the spider kills the mate and, and the father etc. Do we kill and the lion does that elephant does that. He's talking about the behavior. The Quran is not referring to behavior. If Dr. William Campbell cannot understand the Quran, that does not mean Quran is wrong. The Quran says they live in communities talking about the animals and the birds live in groups in societies, like the human

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means it's not talking about behavior.

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Today, science tells that all the animals, the birds and the living creatures of the world, they live in communities, like the human Mini, they live together.

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And I don't have time to touch on all the points on embryology. I've touched on all of the eight nine topics which he spoke on embryology I go more in detail.

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The points he raised in embryology, besides the one I clarify in my talk, he said that the stages of development were mentioned by Hippocrates and Galen.

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And he showed the various slides. The point to be noted just because someone says something which are messing with the Quran.

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That doesn't mean that Quran has been copied from that.

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Suppose I make a statement I suppose, if I make a statement, which is correct, which was sent by somebody else earlier, that doesn't mean I've copied

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it may be

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It may not be to us the conflict approaches the Quran Yes, copy. Okay, fine. But let's analyze the Quran doesn't take the things which were wrong from Hippocrates. If you will have copied, you'd have copied everything.

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It is logical unless he's a scientist. Okay, this is correct. Or this is wrong. I won't Copy that. This is correct Copy that.

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All the stages of Hippocrates and Galen is not the same as the Quran. Hippocrates and Galen doesn't speak about least like substance. They don't speak about Buddha at all. Maybe they speak Hippocrates again and that then they said that even the woman have got semen Who said that? Even the Bible said that if you read in the Bible, it mentioned in Leviticus chapter number 12, was the one to two that woman give out seed.

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So actually, Bible is copying from your pocket.

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And Bible says in Job, Bible says in Job chapter number 10, was number nine and 10 that we have made him in me from clay, like poured out meat and cheese,

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powdered milk and cheese is the exact plagiarize ation from Hippocrates.

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Why pressurisation? because surely that's not the word of God. That portion is unscientific. It was said by pokers and gallant, the Greeks, the demon means decades like cottage cheese,

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and Bible copies are exactly

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but Quran Alhamdulillah as if you analyze and read the books on Rolla, G. Dr. Keith Moore, he said that Hippocrates and the other people like garren, etc. They did give a lot of things, embryology, initially, as well as total, many were right, many were wrong.

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And further, it goes to say in the Middle Ages,

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or at the time of the Arabs, the Quran speaks about something additional.

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If it was exactly copied, why would Dr. Keith Moore in his book, give you credit to the Quran, he even gives you credit to Aristotle, but mentioned there, many were wrong, that he doesn't mention with the Quran. That is enough proof that Quran wasn't copied from the Greek thing.

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Regarding light of the moon letter, the moon was copied from Greeks who will tell me that the world is spherical was copied from Greeks. I know the Pythagoras the Greeks lived in sixth century BC who believe that they are rotated. They believed that the sunlight was reflected. If Prophet Muhammad knows be copied by an indie copy, they believe the sun was stationary. They believe Sun was the center of the universe. So why did Prophet Muhammad copy the correct things and delete the things which are not correct?

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This is sufficient proof that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon did not copy he goes to give a list that from Greek to Syriac, Syriac to Arabic and big research.

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One statement of the Quran is sufficient disprove it, the Quran says in Surah uncouth chapter 29, verse number 48, that thou was not able to recite any book before this, no was now able to stand scribe with a right hand. If it was so the top of the vanity would have surely doubted the Prophet was no me. He was an illiterate. This fact of history is sufficient to prove that you didn't plagiarize from anywhere

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enough.

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Imagine, even a scientist who's very literate, cannot do this thing. But align His divine guidance made the last prophet has known me so that the top of the Vanities, like people read books against Islam. They cannot open their mouths. The Prophet told me

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there are various things that I can continue feeding of the Bible. I've covered up all his arguments against Quran Alhamdulillah Not a single point. To prove cryonics against science. He has not touched on 22 points of mine touched on to not proven so all too easy to get proof that Bible is incompatible with modern science point number 23. In the field of psychology, in the field of biology, it is mentioned in Leviticus chapter number 11, verse number six, that hair is a catcher. We know that hair doesn't cut PVC people start by the movement of the hair. Now we know hair is not a catcher. Neither does it have a compartmentalised stomach.

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It's mentioned in the Proverbs chapter number six was number seven, that and has got no ruler, no Thea, no chief today we know that answer sophisticated insect, they have a very good system of labor in which they achieved their format their workers. They even have Queen David a ruler, therefore Bible is unscientific. Furthermore, it's mentioned

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in the Bible, in Genesis chapter three verse 14, and Isaiah chapter 60, verse number 25, that serpent seed dust knows all the books a serpent does. It mentioned Book of Leviticus chapter 11, verse number 20. Among the abomination things falls with four feet they are animals

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And some scholars say that follow the wrong translation of the Hebrew word. In King James, it should be in fact a winged creature and a New International Version. It's a real creature. But it says all insects,

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which are four footed, are an abomination. They are detestable for you. I want to ask Dr. William Campbell, which insects have got four feet. Even a student who has passed elementary school knows that insects are six feet. There is no bird in the world, there is no foul in the world. There is no insects in the world, which are four feet. Furthermore, there are mythical animals, and fabulous animals mentioned the Bible as though they exist. For example, unicon. It's mentioned in the book of Isaiah, chapter 34 was number seven, talking about unicorns.

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as it exists, you look up in the dictionary, it says animal which has got a horse's body and a horn,

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which is only available in myths.

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My time is

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only allowed to tell that apologize if I've heard the feelings of any Christians. That was not my intention. It was just a reply to Dr. William Campbell's book to prove that Quran is compatible with science and Bible, though portions we do consider maybe the Word of God complete is not the word of God. It's not in conciliation, and I would like to end my talk with the condition of the Glorious Quran from Teresa chapter 1781, which is called Yakuza battle. In the battle Karnataka, when treated her like in falsehood for should perish for false it is by its nature bound to perish waka Dhawan Alhamdulillah Bellamy