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I'll just try and keep the translation very succinct, as it makes mentioned that the world is at a crossroads. Whatever has been presented as a solution to the world has failed, whether it be capitalism, whether it be socialism, and whatever has been presented yet to fail because it did not go according to what the Creator wants from us, the maker the creator, the manufacturer, has set out a way for us for success. If we don't follow that it's not going to be successful. And if anytime the world is in need of Islam, this is the time the world is anxious. These great amount of problems, this great amount of oppression that is happening in the world is an ideal time for the
presentation of Islam, through a clock through conduct and through good presentation. And an approach that is comprehensive and that is balanced, which takes away that the economy between the world and the year after the spiritual and the mundane for which Islam has come. And this is not going to happen only through the means of pamphleteering and books. But he's going to come through the means of presentation through the means of animal into the means of showing people
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There was a very great element in there. Monica Obaidullah Cindy was a student of Shepherd him actually, who came to know about of course at that time, there were two superpowers the powers of capitalism and socialism. Now socialism came at the back and came with a slogan that we are out for the working class, we want to do something for the marginalized in the world. And we are against capitalism, that the world's capital capital must be the envy of few people. So because of that, Milan, I felt that this is something that is very encouraging. So one, our great difficulty went to Soviet Union. And he had an audience with Lenin, and the leaders of capital communism. And he
explained to them the beauty of Islam saying that Islam has got the solution, which is the in between the balance between capitalism and communism. This is a flaw of communism. This is where Islam comes in. So he said I
After a one and a half hour presentation, Lenin asked him and said, well, now what we have said makes a lot of sense is very appealing, but show me one country in the world that have been able to implement this and as a solution. So when I said I had to look down, out of shame that I couldn't present something, then he said, Okay, even if there is no country, even if there is one small place, even if there is one small province or one small city that has this particular
solution that you are presenting, and he said, Mara said, I had to look down and said, I can present that. And Monona says that Manasa Joseph says that I have been able to interact with a great amount of people, people of our faith within Muslim faith with people of other faiths. I read audiences with the Secretary General of the United Nation. And I can say, with great clarity that they all agree that we don't have a solution for problems of the world. That is of the record, in front of the camera, they will always present solutions, but of the record, they will say we don't have a solution. If ever, there was a time when people of the world people who are opinion makers, people
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Honestly, there's a very prominent leader in India. He was from the BJP from the RSS, who became a chief minister of Rajasthan. He became the vice president of BJP India, India.
Mara said he had a long discussion with him. And in that in that discussion, you know, when speaking about the problems that are facing India, he said he told him said monana Normally, I am a firm believer that the only people who have the solution to India is the people.
The only people who have a solution with regard to the problems of India is a Muslim in the Islamic faith. However, I have to say with great amount of disappointment and great amount of sadness that we have not been able to understand the beauty of Islam we have not been able to understand the solution that we have. And we have become embroiled more by infighting and we don't have time out of that infighting to be able to deal with the expectations and with the beauty that Islam is to provide the solution
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When I say that the world is trying to make Islam the problem when it is not the problem it has never been the problem. Islam is and has been the solution. And he said one of the greatest aspects and objective of Islam is to establish social justice. It is not the objective of Islam to make few people pious look at ourselves now who's gonna do that one's gonna allow one Kitab a well designed we are proven disobey Allah Tala in the Holy Quran. Surah Hadith says that Allah Tala has sent all the MBR in WA Salatu was Salam to establish and keep people upon justice. That is a Quranic verse in a Quranic
command that says this is the way of the Umbreon mo salat wa salam, this was the objective. Manna says that this is my third visit to this country. So I don't know whether I will be able to make another visit. Inshallah you will, we will inshallah encourage him to come stay repeatedly. But he says he don't feel there's any depth of people in the world, in terms of resources in terms of talent, in terms of our position in terms of the way we are situated with our infrastructure that has this ability to provide a solution to have a community within the system. You can have a community within the system today, we find NGOs have a tremendous amount of leverage. NGOs have
tremendous amount of influence. I want this off the record just to say that I read somewhere that today a president of a even biggest country in the world, will never ever refuse an invitation of a multinational. He might refuse the invitation of another president he won't be able to refuse the invitation or NGO and a big multinational because there's a type of leverage and so mana says, we have the ability to create a community within the system. So we're gonna be occurring
Salam TT Madina Munawwara but however he says we have become embroiled in fighting and we have not been able to understand the difference of opinion. It is not possible it has never been the way in Islam that only one fatwa is, is established or accepted by the entire ummah. Mr. Gibbs a very famous example of family drama and drama Tula Lee was one of the poor Imams of the fifth and was established to speak with compiled water, Imam Malik was very well respected. And when the Khalifa of the time out of admiration and respect for him, say that I want to establish your fake as the official fake of the entire philosopher in America, Abdullah says I won't allow you and if you do
it, I will be the first to oppose you.
They have been a vehicle themselves from seven different Sahaba to different places, they have different interpretations and the people of those places that follow those Sahaba let them follow them do not make my fit the only fit in this industry. So Monica says that understand that that is a situation with regard to difference of opinion, we have this capacity, but we have not been able to achieve that capacity, because of embroiling ourselves in things that are unnecessary type of
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make mention that he said that I still feel that South Africa is the right place in terms of providing that solution or at least making a start towards it for several reasons. One is it we have a professional class and a base here that is you don't find anywhere else in other parts of the world. When you look at some of the professionals who are here, whether it be doctors and lawyers, if you are not aware of the identity, you will not be able to make out whether they are professionals or people who are students of DEA and it's a reality many of our doctors and our lawyers the way they are dressing the appearance, they have an appearance of D and we just make dua
that you know that that particular type of situation we have must not must not dissipate because of you know stances we take. So anyway that is one of the reasons why we have this situation with regard to our professionals. You don't find it anywhere in the world that they have an inclination towards do they have an inclination towards whatever and secondly, he says he makes mention with regard to the aspect of the English
Language and Maya says from history, you will find that there's always one language that dominates. And until that people of that age do not know that language. Because of the domination of that language because of pile large communication and academic works built in that language, you will not be able to understand the world first it was Arabic until you didn't understand Arabic at a time when the Arabs and the Muslims were in the heyday of Gregorian civilization, you would not have been able to understand the word then it became Persian and now it is English. And Mara makes mentioned it is only someone who comes from an outsider perspective will be able to tell you this, to say that
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Don't wanna gives us two examples that we can take a very great lesson from one is that we all know that aspect of adoption is becoming very crucial and critical. More and more people are adopting it and going towards that. He say in in his maroons father's time as a Mormon zone Romani, there was a policy that was drafted by the Indian government at that time with regard to adoption. And when Marana came to know about it, he had it translated from English into Hindu and he felt that this is going to have a very great impact upon the Islamic understanding of adoption. So when I told him he said, let us do a presentation to the Parliament at that time, he said that all parliamentary
committee have 90 Odd members set for 11 days. Marana presented the Islamic viewpoint, which is the ideal viewpoint with regard to this matter, which takes into account the rights of the biological parents, the rights of the adoptive parents, the Rights of the Child adopted child in such a balanced manner. He said after 11 days of discussion on the matter, they came up to the Senate that the law that we had drafted is not practical, let us redraft it and take into account what Islam has presented. Mana gives another example that there was an aspect of an agricultural policy. In the time there was a time in between when there was no Congress. And there was no BJP, there was a
united front. So at that particular time, there was an agricultural policy. And they call for a discussion paper of Muslims to present a view, Quasimodo Islam was called upon and of course, you know, Quasimodo, Stan came to three times to South Africa, a great scholar. And academically, I think he was way above many of our alumni because of his academic, you know, excellence. So he told Madonna to present it. And he said, when he presented it, they all agreed that this is the best solution to be able to bring forward to the people with regard to the agricultural policy. So he said Mama says that these are examples, I can give you two personal examples, where we have a
solution. We always take this view that who's going to listen, and if we have to start taking that particular viewpoint, and Amelia was salat wa salam, they would have evaded in that viewpoint we would have we have been with regard to religion. Somebody it was salat wa salam didn't say who's gonna listen to us they went and with sincerity and with proper class, and with the flood, they presented the solution. We also have that particular ability is more than a gives us two example in our situation. We had a we had an opportunity with regard to nationalization. We had a situation of presenting a solution, we didn't do it. We didn't even think about it. So one of us is we have these
type of examples with one and are presented as two examples where we can play a role with regard to presenting Islam as a solution.
As Mr. de la vida says, This is what he has presented Allah knows best and maybe we can use that as a basis for some discussion. We have some 10 minutes before the show.
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Want to make mention that this man has made mentioned with regard to me that we are in a state of limbo. We're not providing any solutions. There is a crisis of leadership and I don't need to elaborate on what this final said I think people by and large would accept that as a situation of the Muslim community presently, Mara says yes, we can get together Muslim businessmen, professionals valamar politicians, but one of the first things that we need to do is that we no one was come in there with a preconceived notion and said only my particular way and only my view and only my opinion would be accepted must be able to learn from one another and be able to sit together and to
take forward and with regard to the solutions. And maybe sometimes we are so immersed in our own situation, we might not be able to have a look at it objectively because we will be subjective. So, maybe even if we have to import expertise, then maybe we can do that in Monona is available. So I told one of my you will be able to have to come back again.
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