Channel: Umm Jamaal ud-Din
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So dear viewers welcome again to the first first episode of the LA show together with us today so start on July the dean from Sydney Australia and we are going to be talking about memorizing for and
actually a lot of it's a it's a it's a goal for every Muslim
practicing or not practicing to one to like have the have the Qur'an of hand
some people can put the efforts and some cannot but everybody wants to do this
because we are late and just diving into the topic straightaway and a couple of people they asked okay yeah, be monster like yes, it's cool it's cool to memorize a plan. But why like why should we even write Spratt? Yeah.
So, look, I mean, most of us know that I had these that talk about the rewards in the L Hara, right.
But, you know, I just want to start off by saying first of all to be snare is now and hamdulillah was so that was Salam O Allah. So now while early he was so happy, when and whether so
like I said, most of us know many of the Hadees about, you know, memorizing for the outfit or you know, the reward for the L hero, right.
like, it's important for us to first of all, have, you know, you've really got to know why you want to memorize the Quran. I mean, Mike, you've got to be you know, if you know, you're, for example, if you know that first of all, I was going to test you, right, you know, this life is a test and that you know, that
there's only one chance in this life, right? You've only got one chance in this life. So if you think about that, if you any most of us, we want to do well on tests we do in dunya. Right? So when it if you think about
the ltr how you know, and you think about how will you do the tests and the algebra. That's, that's one of the main things that made me really want to memorize Quran because I, you know, I just felt like, I really want to do my best for el Faro. Right. But if you think about the headache of the profits that aligner said, when he said haidakhan mentor, animal Koran, one Nana, right. So, you know, the best of you are the ones who you know, you learn the Quran and you teach it. So you know, what, you know, when you're thinking about, okay, I want to do my best in this world, and I want to do my best in Africa. How do I how do i do my best? Let's look what Allah said about how to do your
best and let's look at how the results of our salon taught us how to do our best. So that's one way you can do best which is to you know, memorize the Quran, learn the Quran, and then try to teach others the Quran. Okay.
Also we know that for example very very motivation you know, a hadith it's very you know, really motivates you is the one that you know, how it mentions about God said to associate with grandma Docker container the Quran you know to recite and you know to keep on reciting and that your place in Jana your men you know, Mandela, Mandela, you know, Doc, your place in Jana be
you know, elfrida, like the last ayah that you have memorized. So that's that that had it in particular is a very big motivator to want to memorize the Quran, right? But to be honest, it's not just about the rewards in algebra that I like to highlight to people about why to memorize Quran, like, there's so many benefits in dunya before asherah for people who memorize Quran, right? And that, that, to me, it has even a stronger motivation in my in my like, for me, that was a stronger motivator in a lot of ways, right?
For example, we know that the, like, we know that the Salah is one of the main things that connects us to a lot of pantalla. Right? But like to be with the Quran, but to have a close relationship with the Quran. Like, obviously, if you're memorizing the Quran, you have a very, you're gonna have to have a very strong and close relationship with the Quran, right? So, you know, like, it's like, the Quran is constantly building you, like we, as you memorizing the Quran is constantly building you and, you know, strengthening you and you're constantly in that connection with a lot of our data due to you you memorizing the Quran, right?
And, you know, also like, if you think about this day and age, right, we are surrounded by so much, maybe, you know, I don't know how it is for you in Nigeria, but like living in the West, you know, you're surrounded by fitter and you're surrounded by, you know, all kinds of negativity against Islam, right. So, in order to keep yourself strong, you really need to fight back. You need to be really proactive fighting back and what was one of the best ways to fight back against it is to you know, to, you know, fortify your heart with Quran you know, like Allahu taala is is enhanced.
Al Quran yeah Devi Lachey he acquired You know, this Quran you know yeah Didi let he upon it guides to whatever is
already up right. So the Quran he memorized the Quran like it's different than just reading the Quran like memorizing the Quran is anyone here would know has memorized Quran when you have those aids in your hearts, and you recite them it's different than you just recite from this house. Like you feel like it's actually coming out of your heart when you recite right? So you can see you can sort of feel how the Quran is you know, guiding your heart towards the truth to protecting it from you know, from falsehood.
And especially in like when you're leading in these times, you need to see the difference between the right and the wrong the hook and the bottom right. So having the Quran in your heart is something that protects from that you know, and
also if you think about is a headache from the profit sort of alarm on your cell in which he says in the inner levy Lhasa fee jiofi he shaped on minako on Cal, beighton hottie right, but the one who doesn't have any
plan in his heart is like a ruins house. So we know that we know that the deserted house, it's very easy for any, like the shutdown can easily come into deserted house. So what about the person has no one in their heart, you know, so you know, if you want to protect yourself, your children, you know, from from, from shavon from misguidance then one of the best ways is to fortify your heart with memorizing Quran fortify their hearts with memorizing the Quran, right?
I mean, I can go on and on, I don't know how long you really go on for but there's, there's so many things, so many benefits of memorizing the Quran, you know,
and as I said, in dunya, even before ephedra, you get all these benefits, as long as you say, you know, steadfast on this path, you know,
it's not easy, it's not easy path. It's not, it's a long path for most people, especially if you don't have an Arabic background, it's going to be a longer path than someone who's got Arabic, but you're going to be continuing to get these benefits because, like, it's not just about the end of the journey. It's about what you get through being on that journey. You know, you'll get you're benefiting all the way you never lose it memorizing the Quran, you're always you're always on your way now, you know, because you're the 100 in your time is your time is Baraka, your time is blessed, because you know, instead of wasting it on other things, you're engaged in memorizing Quran
right? And you're ready to like, I find personally we've made well, but I'm like, we've been with Graham show as much as I possibly can. You know, I find that it's just constantly awakens your heart. You know, like we these days, you know, in this day and age, we always pull back by dunya
but, you know, when you're constantly reciting Quran revising Quran, it's waking up your heart, remember reminding yourself of alpha. So, you know, you're constantly feeling like your Eman is recharging.
You know, you're, you're, you're thinking about FM constantly. So it's like, it's like, like your mobile phone, you have to keep plugging your mobile phone in to get charged.
So this is what you're doing each time you come back to Quran to revise and to to memorize.
So, you know,
what is it is this, you know, this panel, there's so many benefits we get from memorizing the Quran and you got to realize that it's see the problem is a lot of people unfortunately like it, you know, what it's like, I know, a lot of countries where they just, you know, don't keep seeing it, like sort of just parroting the Quran, you know, a lot of people they don't understand that it's not, you know, it's not just about reciting, memorizing, it's about internalizing.
That's the important, important part. It's not just, you know, that's why it is important to learn the meanings. I'm not saying it had deep understanding of the meanings, but you do need to understand the basic meaning of a yet that you're, you're memorizing, or is it why really had the true impact on the heart.
But if you do, if you are able to internalize the meanings, then you find that the Quran actually like I said, it's, it's that you're going to find it like your greatest motivator
because you're always turned back to thinking about al Qaeda. So then if you're turned back to Africa all the time, then you constantly want to keep striving for effort to you know what I mean? Like you might get down but you go back to karate, it pushes you back forward again and you start you know, you want to constantly try to improve yourself, push yourself more for al-hurra. So this is what I can say about
this is listen, God is there's so many benefits in memorizing the Quran. It's a lot of people just say they just think about that. ahaadeeth for ltr but it's about what is going on do for you in this dunya before after
What does it do for you what to do for your children? When you when you memorize the Quran, as long as it's done sincere sincerely, though, I should maybe I should mention that it has to be with a class or you wouldn't get that you wouldn't get that the benefits and there's it's done with Nicolas
people watching. One thing to point out here is, is some people who want to seek knowledge, right? People want to take the path of knowledge, but because they find the memorization of the product to be hard, they just say okay, I'm gonna be able to just memorize a couple of IX and have oboe learn. So, he bought he led Google muram
during I was out in the class, the other time the teacher he was sending us he said during the time of the setup or the earlier periods, he was talking about the period of britania basically, and during that time, he said when the when the students have knowledge, they go to the to the pool to and they go to the island and they say they want to be a student that is usually asked Have you memorized the crime? And then when you say no, then they tell you only minor crime and come back so I'm trying to bring the the point that memorization of the Quran basically is the the foundation you don't like begin to study balumama if not memorize the main the main foundation of the of the deen
which is the one that is the first one and secondly, during during Salah it's one thing which automatically increases your shoe. Yeah.
Because if you memorize a little like a deal and you will print for example, federal federal law there'll be less
for the and that's just your circle, it becomes like you're just singing something but when you memorize a lot of the prior
you you can like pray during a salon and ponder upon different is it automatically increases your shoe and especially for like men praying behind the man, it's a more simple no more booster push when the number of sites that you just listed, listed and pump upon those is it's like it's like a feeling which which which you don't get anywhere. Me and some of my brothers when when the machines just reopened. That was the only thing we were waiting for. Because we basically just we basically just wanted to be behind the man listen to the like listen to the man recite.
This is another thing which people benefit from and we get we get to understand that Allah subhanaw taala he said that when the remembrance of Allah, the hearts fight breast Yeah. And there's only like, how do you remember a lot through like, knowing knowing what he said and doing like knowing what she said,
doing? Thinking and stuff? Yeah, there. But when you when you randomize the love that
you have to pick up the must have and go through the most hassle to read. And basically most times when you don't know Arabic, you have to like go through translations, and it becomes tiring because a lot of times you have other things to do. But when you realize what are you driving, you can ponder you're you're walking on the street, you can ponder upon some is and like I said, a whole lot of the whole lot of benefits which which someone can get so how
you've managed to memorize the Quran, like I think, over 10 years ago now
is you and how long did it take you to memorize the Quran? So
look, it took me at least 20 years to memorize the Quran. And I think it's I like people sometimes to really hear my story because often we only hear the stories of people who've got an Arabic background and it took them nine, nine months and we get really amazed and think wow, Mashallah, like nine months, but then that often makes a lot of other people too hopeless. Because they think why can't I memorize the Quran in nine months, you know?
So like, so I've come from a completely non Arabic speaking background, you know, like I didn't even know word of Arabic until I even hear a word of Arabic until I was like, I think 16 was the first time I actually heard the Arabic language.
And so when I first started memorizing the Quran, I actually couldn't even read or write Arabic at all.
But what I did is I
basically got the transliteration you probably seen the transliteration where you know, it's got like the it's got the Arabic cert written in English.
And, yeah, so I started off like when I first reverted, so I reverted
And then when I reverted really not long after I vertical, I had to start memorizing some theories for the for the prayer. Okay, so I remember for example, to memorize certain Casio one, it took me three weeks.
I remember that's how long it took me to memorize just didn't catch it on, right? Because it's very hard in the beginning very hard. Like, it's not your language, you didn't try to memorize and as I said, I was writing, I used to write out the, I used to write out the Arabic In English, like English Arabic, sorry, like I copy the transliteration and then I'd write the English meaning underneath, okay, that's how I memorize I have book. And I just used to like, copy out all the transliteration in my book and then write the English meaning underneath and then I just like memorize it. So that's how I started out.
And I kept on going with it. Like I think I started making like making little goals for myself. So I started off with obviously to Zama, most people sort of Zama it was all the short stories first, so I memorize all the really short stories first. And then you know, it's kind of like you keep increasing your goals. So after I finish memorizing all the short stories, I kind of like move to like doing the last half of Zama. I must say, too, though, I did end up handling marrying my husband, he's Egyptian. So he was able to at least also oversee some of my pronunciation because obviously he, you know, your pronunciation is gonna be very perfect, especially in the beginning.
So, yeah, so I kept on going like that, basically, until I finished like ju Zama. And then once I finished one juice, I, you know, this is before I could rewrite rb, again, it's before I could even read the Arabic script. Okay, this is all just learning from English, Arabic, okay.
And I started I think, memorizing Jews to Barack and called just concern x. And then I started I started doing some Tajweed lessons like learning with sisters, you know, to read lessons. So what happened was because I had already memorized these, these edges of the Quran, I was able to, like, when I'd go to my lesson, I was able to actually quite easily read the, the Arabic. In the meantime, I have to say, I did start reading obviously, the Arabic alphabet, you know, I had to learn the Arabic alphabet, and, you know, linking letters and stuff. But then after that, I went to tend to be distance, like I said, and because I had already memorized these particular, you know, sort of the
Quran, then when I go to my tedrick lesson should say, like, for example, read,
you know, like, rigid magetta Allah, for example, you know, and then I'd be, it would be much easier for me to read because I had already memorized it. So that's, that's how I started out memorizing in Australia, when I was in Australia.
And I kept on going, that was just like, something that I would do, I had my son, my first son. And, you know, I'd always had that, because I was just that person who just likes to have some time to study every single day, like so. I would study a bit of Arabic every single day, like do vocabulary. And I would, you know, have a bit of time for memorizing Quran. It just was something I'll do like he'd have his nap. And I would,
you know, add that bit of time to because I was at university before I got married, you know, so I was the type where I love to study I've always been attracted to I love studying. So obviously, I became Muslim. I love to study about Islam. And you know, karate is part of that.
And I should also mention, too, before I go on, that what motivated me actually to memorize the garage. He mentioned that to see when I first rehab reverted I went to
I went to the masjid, and it was at night of the 27th. So it's like little colored, and
there was a young girl in the front of the mess, Jeet. Like she's about 14 or 15 years old of age, and they had her reciting from she was the head of reciting the Quran. And when I asked about her, they told me yet Mashallah to broke a law like, you know, her family has memorized the Quran, you know, she's memorized the Quran. So when I heard that, I was like, like, I was really amazed, you know, think and it kind of became my goal. You know, when I heard about that parent, a family had memorized the Quran associate to myself, you know, I want to, I want to be like that, too.
You know, that's the kind of, I think what got me on the path of wanting to do that in the first place.
Again, because of what I told you before, my main thing has always been like when you've accepted Islam, and you realize this is a truce, right? And you want to do your best in this dunya Okay, this is a test and you want to do your best in this dunya and you know that you get one chance you can't come back once you once you die, that's it, you can't come back and do it again. So it's like do try to get best the first time because that's the only time you're going to hurt, right? So let's start with the main motivator, but um, so then after that, I know
Going to Saudi. And when I was at Saudi, you know, I handed I got the opportunity to study at DARPA, which is a really top grant school. And that was when I realized how to really, you know, that's when I really learned how to really what's what's really involved with memorizing the Quran because we had a really tough program
especially for someone from my background, you know, so when I first started I mean the first throw that we started with that was actually super early Iran and
I was still doing the same thing I was in before like I was actually writing out the MA x in English Arabic, like that, transliteration. When I first started at the ground school and own all my class, all the people my class will all sell these like they're all Saudis, or Yemenis, or like, they're all Arabic background, no one spoke English in my classroom. So I was, that's how I started out. And
yeah, so yeah, so I saw that like that. And it was because every day so we're supposed to memorize one a half pages of Quran every single day. And we're supposed to read seven pages of 10 hour. Now, obviously, my mighty Lau was not very good, because I wasn't like I was, we started off as Baccarat right, we had to read, the idea was to start from the
beginning of the crown sort of work from the front to the back. So why to our obviously, because I was still not like not that strong with them, even to our so I had to read over the pages, maybe seven or 10 times to get them fluent, you know, for the next day, because we do test me and the next day and listen to us, you know, to see how our recitation of those pages are. So I had to do like maybe read each page, maybe 710 times to make it fluent. And like I read a page and she was fluent that I'd go to the next page, read that so it's fluent then go to the next page. That's how I do my reading.
What basically happened was because I did so much reading the quality of reading was so huge that I ended up being able to slowly and handily that transfer from the you know, transfer from the English or because writing either to the Arabic script
that took about I'd say
it probably was about
I'd say about maybe four or five months after I've been studying I was able to do that like and start memorizing from Arabic script. But it took a while you know, to get a transfer. But that's basically what we're doing. It was like one and a half pages of
of Quran four days a week. And then we had the other three days to do what our job
yeah, and just reading that's that's how I got started. And that's how I kind of got an idea of what's required to memorize the Quran how much the quantity if you really want to get somewhere it has to be a fair bit but then of course you stop like you don't you just keep going like you you memorize for a while and then you stop and then you have to do more of everything that you've memorized. So you know the Quran school did help me to understand it technique to how to memorize
that's very important to understand that because if you haven't really had anyone to show you you might you might struggle
A couple of people they buy you talked about the Quran school giving you techniques just came to my mind a lot of people they want to memorize the Quran, but they don't go to a teacher basically they're okay having to laugh.
It's because like for me, when we were like way younger, like when we were born basically. Like, indeed, like three years old and stuff. You've got to go to the Islamic school. And then we learned how to recycle and the land, easy to read. And basic stuff. Basic basics of everything. So labor we weren't you're not going to memorize until you could recite from Bergerac gymnasts perfectly. But did you eat and everything you start memorizing? And I saw it wasn't a school for him. And then when we so then we were grown like
so 13 and yeah, now it's time to memorize. But then a lot of people began to go to like boarding schools and so everybody left the madrasa or the people who were still in day schools and they used to come base to go to the to the mother side. So when we left for boarding school,
and when we come back, it's like a very short holiday. So basically, we stopped we stopped going to the madrasah and
people there people a lot of a lot of my friends they said okay now watch them rise up but
but yeah, we know how to recycle stops off No, they don't never like go to the don't go to an island with a teacher to recite to and the teacher distance that and I think this is like a very, very
Have method to like just try to memorize yourself recited cover it. And so you bring it up the benefits which the benefits which the the school gave to you just brought this to my mind. And the thing is, after that we started we started actually without a teacher. And then when you recite a couple when you tie it like when you tie it, maybe today, maybe today, I haven't memorized, then I'll tell my friends, I'm okay. Actually, I'm going out with my mom. So we won't be able to meet and recite and then everybody so you basically make excuses the day you don't memorize and there's like no zeal, no push, no motivation to really like memorize. But when you have that teacher, you know
that you can just you just have to memorize it that they basically can just move around. Oh, well see, then we were young so but even for like young adults, it happens a lot. Because being a young adult and 2021, you have like a whole lot of things to do a whole lot of like feeling sick and off, you're taking away your mind. So trying to memorize a lot. I think like it's a very, it's achievable. But it's first of all, a very slow process and a very non effective process.
So suddenly said 20 years it took you to the muscle, but how did Why did he feel like at some point did you feel like
it's taken over long. And maybe you had to like that he broke off from the mice and then went back to the mice all through he were like on it for the whole year. So what happened to me is
that I memorized
say, like the last five and
I memorize the last five and the first five from the Quran, the first five, which is that
and I think I'm a student gaff and puppy suit muddy and let's try to link them all together. But
I mean, I had kids, I said, having children I told you I had that first son. So with my first son, he had to memorize the Quran when I was memorizing the Quran in the school, he said memorizing and he was he was actually about he was about two and a half weeks said memorizing doesn't matter as well. And because he had Arabic language, he was two and a half we said memorizing the Quran.
Now, he used to go to the Madonna, like when I used to be in the crown class, he used to go to Havana. So in the Havana like they could heat the other kids outside,
stay like little preschool outside the Madonna and actually rolled up his rolled up but the roll dough was where they had little kids under three. And then they had to had Donna luck where they had the older kids like who were like four to over three years of age for four or five. And they were memorizing the Quran outside. So what happened was the teacher noticed that he was saying to copy off the kids outside like he was studying to say the A yet because he was listening to them outside say Tom, she told me that you know what, I think that he can manage if he goes and sits with the other older children. So he started going with them. And like I said, he started to memorize the
grammar in Saudi so he when we left we left Saudi like about halfway through like when he finished about half of design math with the Quran school. So when I came back, I started you know, focusing on him too. So that's another thing happened to me. So I had, I had my first son then 3d that I had twins. So um, so what happened was because I wanted my kids to be able to memorize the Quran because I didn't want them to go through what I went through as an adult, like I realized how hard it is to memorize as an adult. And I really wanted my kids to memorize the Quran. And I told you before about that family I had seen, you know, that family when I first reverted, and also when I went to Saudi,
I met a lot of families and I met some amazing families who, like all the kids had memorized the Quran, you know, and they were just like, really inspirational to me. So I was like, I really wanted that for my family too.
So that's why I started focusing a lot more on my children. So I was still revising my own Quran but I wasn't as highly focused on mine because you can't do everything. You know, if you're going to start helping your kids to memorize that's going to take a lot of your time up a lot of your energy so you're going to you're going to have like less time for yourself. So that's basically why but I never gave up. I never gave up my revision, I will always do my revision of what I had memorized. When I like when I come back to Australia, I was actually I always would pair up with a sister who like I'd find someone like I found in the Arabic community, you could find sisters, Mashallah who
you know, they've
Got a, like a fairly advanced level of memorization, you can always find someone from amongst them who's done like, maybe 10 edges that or at least or something like that, that you can partner with. And they're dedicated and that you can, you know, sort of meet up once a week and sort of keep on memorizing with them or at least revise. So that's the technique I was using when I came back to Australia.
But yeah, besides that, I was just working with my kids for a long time trying to get them to memorize like 100 of my first son, he fish when he was 14.
We could we didn't have we didn't have grand schools here, right? There was no Quran schools here.
Shall keeps you memorize, but even if you do, like, I'll be honest.
When you send your kids to Quran schools, in general, they waste a lot of time. In the Quran school, like I did try it a couple of times, I did put my kids in to see if anything would, you know, they could get anywhere, but like, they sit in line waiting for a long time, he's muck around, you know, I found that, that if I just spend like one hour with them, I could get so much done in that one hour compared to if I sent them all week to a cron school, you know what I mean? So that's why I decided that the best way is, for me to teach them myself, I thought that was really the best way, you know, you've got more obviously, a parent has far more kind of, you know, basically a class
towards wanting their kids to to memorize the Quran, and then anybody else. So yeah, so that's why I went that way we did. And like I said, we didn't really have the facilities back then we didn't have like, really the facilities for them to have gone somewhere to memorize, I mean, we've got a bit more now we've got like, if you're about
11, or 12, you know, you can keep putting kids in there. Like, there are some schools you can put your kids in, and they can memorize when about 11 or 12.
But I have found looking at people I know that the kids who've done the best with Quran, like as far as like, being really strong in their hips are the ones who did parents actually taught them. That's what I have found not not all, you know, maybe that's in this country, I'm sure the seeds if you've got a share, like an individual share, Who taught you that could be very good, too. But just the ones who go to generally the crown schools, and that, I find that people would spend a lot of money, you know, putting their kids in those in those crown schools, and a lot of time, external, all the homework the kids have already got, and they didn't really get very far with it.
You know, so that's, that's why I thought though, with the parent ID, it works a lot better. That's, that's part of the reason why plus I did a lot of other things in between, to like, I went to uni and studied Arabic, I do two classes, you know, teaching classes, as well says all things going on, I ended up having five children. I mean, there's been so much going on in between. So like that's why it that's why it took me 20 years, but you know, it's, it took me 20 years, and now I'm still in the process of perfecting my memorization. So people don't understand that when you finish memorizing the Quran, it's not like you're gonna be perfect the day you finish, you now have to go
back and like, you're going to have some edges that which are strong, and some of them like weak and you have to like really revise over them and make them stronger. So you know, I'm still I'm still going through them still trying to like, get to the perfection level. You know, we buy memorization and like, obviously, I can't help sometimes compare like, I've got my kids and because it's much easier for them. They've got the Arabic language, it's such a huge difference. Like don't even anyone out there who doesn't have Arabic as a background, please never ever compare yourself to somebody Arabic language, it's a completely different ballgame. Like, it is so much easier for
someone with Arabic, you know, with Arabic background to memorize the Quran than it is for someone coming from a non Arabic speaking background. Just don't compare yourself to them. You know, because you feel depressed you think why can't I do what they're doing? You know?
So, yeah, so don't even get there because I can see with my own children like how how easy it has been like I don't say it's easy, it has been hard for them but nowhere near like they don't have to revise the level I have to you know what I mean to get to it's, it's just different. You need to be listening to it. Since you're young. I'm sure that if you've grown up in an environment listening to grantees, you're young, it must be a lot different than someone who never heard any grant and so they're like, you know, until they're like older.
raise yourself so we're going to like dive into some tips because I think a lot of people are already asking for that.
Based upon like some practical steps which people can take so let's take it from Okay, you gave us like you being a non Arabic speaker and all that. You You weren't Muslim at first and so you you ranch like you didn't get that put on the ground anywhere. So for someone Okay, someone who yeah
Ideally I want to sign up for and let's say I know how to resize it, but I'm good. If I look at the most helpful window, it's not like perfect. So how do I go now to memorize the plan? What are the steps the person needs to take? Sorry, said it last bit again.
Like someone who knows how to recite the plan, Mm hmm. Let's say he's
just he just knows like the basics of how to resize. So we actually want to actually take from here. So as you said, it is you you've got to, especially when you're first starting out, you've got to have
something that's going to motivate you to be reached a deadline every single week. Okay, so like you don't, I would not advise anyone in that level to be doing on their own. So start off with a teacher or a cron buddy, one or the other. But it has to be somebody you know, is a very dedicated person, you can look for that person who's really serious.
What would be preferable is someone who's memorized Walker and the new, like, they're more advanced. And maybe they want to revise some of their crime while you are memorizing, that's one thing, but you've got to have goals. So like,
when you're starting out, you always think I really would advise anybody, I think most people would just start with Joomla. Okay, because that's the most recited like, they're the most misunderstood, but the most, the most practical, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna be reciting them over and over again in all your praise. So that's a big motivator, you know, just make yourself look, at least if I can just memorize Zama, because I'm going to be using them in all my prayers over and over again. And then when you've got rosamma, you go to do the barrack, you know, then you go just God, same as he worked for the back of the Quran. And like I said, I did the last five. And
then I felt like you know, while I was in grad school, like I said, at the Quran, school kids to Baccarat journey abroad, I did certainly set. So, I mean, a lot of a lot of people would like to maybe go to sort of Bukhara, but don't do it until you feel like you've got a fair bit of
a fair bit of the other edges that done because, you know, sort of, is very long.
So it's sort of more motivating to say, oh, Mashallah memorize five edges, there is more in motivating that, you know, you're trying to memorize some records very long at
all, you know, you, you know, so that, that helps as well.
I think just off with that, you know, that's, that's the most important thing, just just having goals. And like, Look, eventually, I was able to memorize on my own after I had, like, because I've been such, I've just developed such a life habit, with my memorization, you know, after having, you know, being in grad school after having been with, you know, having other cities that I would memorize. So I got so used to it in my life, that I was able to then just really,
you know, want to work towards my goals, you know, on my own. And so I basically work off like a kind of a routine where we have,
like, we'd had four semesters in a year, or four sets of holidays, right? So I would basically
I've memorized like, I try to say myself, I can memorize like say a juice every semester, you know, during the school semester, try memorize a juice and then jr holiday, be revising it something like that you're gonna make up your own goal, whatever you think would be suitable for you.
That's that's that's the best way I can I can suggest
making those i'd like you said people, people should avoid making your goals you should make your goals realistic now because
looking at the the Arabic speakers already goes through when you go through the biographies of people. Okay?
You've gone okay with Sharia law, per se, he memorized the Quran when he was 10 years old. It is delayed
by 30. And, okay, when I was starting to learn the the act of love, and Hamza, and so that was like, two years ago. And then I was like, wait, he lived when he was 14. He knew like the 10 cut at
18. And so I was like,
when do either wash or not fail. And
then another thing I'm going to highlight here about this whole thing is
and the funny thing is then
I haven't I was just like, let's say about 2021 Best Buy tengiz Yeah, and
most times you just want to like Fast Forward things and just want to be like those people.
If I told you don't take it step by step, so when I was talking to a friend, he was like, Okay, yeah, since you're almost done with learning the rules of credit and just finish it off and all that anymore. You already know the background. So we're ready to help. You were not supposed to stop. But since you started
and don't think about Don't think about that. And okay, yeah, I was like that I'm not gonna think about this. Because he was and he was like 19 so just a year old I just thought Nah, this brother he's just telling me this I still went on to learn finally hired all the tech guys
And then I started okay, I want to learn I want to start learning solos. So when I started learning sutras in the different characters, and I was the I was the I was one of the mounts in the school because I just tried to like pick up books of garage rules and read them when I when I leave the prayer for example, and they are going to give a practical example get when you recite them when you say
mighty Chioma Kenya. Oh my god. And then when you reach some other lady natali him it's the other lady.
But because I tried to like live check it out. It's like just wanting to know all
Maddie here with him then now automatically have gone to like maybe how can I because Maliki but because I haven't forgot I said Maliki when I say they're awesome lady, you know, I'm dying to
know. So someone who like had more knowledge after the break was like, brother, it seems you've not I have you finished sauce. Okay, so he said just just take to just finish the hell up now. Don't even use color again. Once you finish it just stick to have and that's why I've been doing a lot of us. We tried to like just want to just want to be like, General, like the people who see that. Are you thinking thinking? It's like the same situation and stuff like that? Which by the way, it's not so making the goals really practical. Okay. Yeah, yes. I want to I want to minimize for
one page a day, okay. It's gonna take me two years. Yes. After this, I want to learn this, can I can this can I, I want to perfect it read, I want to take it a step by step understanding that it's a lifelong process. And it's not going to like, so it's not like, Okay, once I've done that five years, I'm done with everything that has to do with every citation. I can switch it, it's something which goes on time by time by time. Yeah, like I really, yeah, you really need to prioritize, like, for me, memorizing the Quran is a greater priority than learning all different karats you know, like, I've no house on arson, you know, and I really think that it's best for someone just to learn,
learn to read the Quran correctly in one pyrrha you know, memorize the Quran, when you when you're very strong in your memorization of the Quran, then move to learning different karats you know, like, I know, with my son, I've handled because he's very strong in his hips, he can handle another para, you know, he's got a couple of karate, you know, but like, you need to be very strong in your head before you go into different karate. Because like, even when he revises some of these different like he's doing sure about for example, like if your hips is not strong enough, it's confusing. If you know you start getting confused, and it's hard enough just to memorize the Quran correctly and
strongly. To start off with midline, you start to go into karate, so I just I don't think that that's probably the best way to go.
Yeah, true. And it's not like it's not it's not really that like very important for to learn like different karate, it's all assault.
But for me, I really wanted like, I just really wanted the crown in my heart, you know what I mean? I really wanted to, like really memorize the whole Quran and die with the Quran in my heart. And that's might be my goal. So it's like, because I made that as my life goal. It's like, I can't leave this journey, you know what I mean? So I'm just keep going with this journey, even if I don't never get to perfect but my goal is to be perfect. But even if I never get there, Allah knows my intention, you know, in the middle of MLB net, like, I don't know is my intention that that's what my intention was. And Allah knows, Allah sees, you know, the effort you've done, he sees your heart,
how much you really wanted to, like, achieve that goal and you shall almost pantalla you know, he'll never you know, cause your cause your efforts to be lost inshallah, like, you know what I mean, so, I think just put practical goals for yourself.
Now, a couple of people get to modeling which one in which the motivates people is the is the age when, okay, we're Nigeria, we have like a lot of Muslims. You see some people who
don't they basically know, they just know who's the trichomes and Fatah. And we grew up in this Muslim societies, but still, as they weren't able to memorize and then now they're like 14 years old, and they say, I want to do I want to do the right thing. And then they start, they try to they try to recite the Quran properly. But then they see like, subpart 1145. And when am I going to memorize this plan? And they just say, Okay, yeah, I don't think I'll just I'll just make my kids memorize. But for me, I don't think I can memorize it, but I'm so do they feel like they're too old to memorize the Quran? Just this slide. So what case about such a situation? So what I would say to
people, you don't have to memorize the whole Quran. Like, why like to start off with just to Santa's startup procedure calf, start off with, you know, servers that you're going to be reciting all the time, like, sort of cash, you need it for Friday, you know, just some night you need it for your prayers, like, just about as well as the beautiful Jews, because it's got lots of the is a very short, you know, try to do and Bukhara and any Iran, like, if you can't memorize the whole Quran, just make your goal sort of Baccarat, sorry, Emraan, you know, because of the virtues of these, you know, those series in particular, you know, so at least just do that make that your goal. It doesn't
have to be the whole Quran. But it's very daunting to think about having to memorize the whole Quran, you know, like for me, basically, because the more you memorize the Quran, the more you're your goal looks a little bit easier to achieve, you know what I mean? The more you start chipping off,
you know, various edges that it starts to come together and you think, oh, I've only got 10 minutes ago, I've only got five minutes ago, yes, it becomes more reasonable that it becomes a more realistic goal, right. And like I said, it's not that everybody has summarize the whole Quran Yani, if I can't do that, with them, at least to advocate audit them, let them be let it go be Al Baqarah. And Ron supercash. You know, does, I'm just about, you know, just have a few edges that that you've memorized? Well, inshallah
I feel like for people older like that, definitely, most people, they will be working at that age. And they'll have other things to do, I think, relate to yourself with people who have those same goals. And I don't know about Australia. But here Nigeria is like easy to access, people basically go to the masjid, you see all the people who are like memorizer, and a bunch of them, who are interviewed, like, show us, they're not just random people who have devised a plan, and you see there, so you're able to access this kind of people, I feel making people who are on that path, and also, who are already completed the plan. Making them your friends is one thing which will, which
will really, really motivate you, because I think the demotivating thing is most times when they go to the when they go to the schools and they see, okay, I'm the only one who's 50 here.
every person, every other person is 16 1713. And so they just feel
it's and when they come to the school again, for example, due to the fact that they had work to do and they had to, they had families and stuff. Maybe he wasn't able to recite the whole page completely. But these kids just come in and they don't read the page and it's it becomes something like they feel maybe this is not for me and they need I feel okay, having those group of friends who, who would push you who would give you that motivation and understanding that it's not just about the end, the process the person is is like, it's joyful. The process of
having a Okay, finish a page and actually for me, there's one thing I do when I'm when I'm
revising and fat, I think when I was at and found the book, and I was like, last year so when I was on fire when I read when I reached the last page of the of the first the last I have the first veto, like I hate that it has been laid out in Evernote.
Yes, I can get the job because it was it was so joyful to have like just and it was just a page Okay, so joyful to finish the page and so the process is enjoyable. They're finishing it. Yeah. Finish it. Okay. Yeah, having to like finish it. But looking at the process is something which keeps you keeps you motivated and we understand from the Sooners, the philosophy of that is that
When you start something, but he intend to do something, and if you don't do it get a reward. So it's just like, when you when you intend to go, when you attend to go to hijack, and then you die on the road, you get the reward of the person
to resign, if something happened or maybe you die or something, you get the reward of the one who finished because you have
all these things, we should let it motivate other people towards towards
We have about seven minutes more. So I think let me let me check if we have questions from the audience.
Did you have to like work aside schooling and other things?
Yeah, so I've,
I've my whole life I've been either studying at uni, or I've been, I've also been teaching, I'll give lessons
to this, you know, two sisters here in Sydney. So I did balance my life, you know, around, you know, memorizing the Quran around seeking knowledge around teaching. So you know, you, you have to have a very good routine, it's very important to have a good routine, you know,
you learn that I think that after having children, you learn how to be very organized.
For me, normally my morning time is best for Quran. But if I have lessons in the morning, then I'm gonna have to do it, like when I come back in the afternoon, but generally speaking, to be really serious with memorizing the crown or revising Quran, you need to you need to have put away you need, you really need about like an hour to two hours a day. being realistic, you really want to revise properly, I mean, to just revise a juice, it's going to take at least about an hour, right and issue able to, you know, read really, really fast, like if you once you get it very strong, you can probably revise maybe three edges up in an hour. But before you get it very strong, it's going to
take at least an hour or two hours, you know,
to revise so you've got to kind of you've got to try you know, slot that in around your timetable. And it's going to be days where you were not going to have time you're just going to miss it sometimes does happen unfortunately. But that's what can you do, like life happens and but the most important thing is just start again the next day, you know, you got to keep going like I sometimes because if I have exams, sometimes they'll go through a few days or maybe a week where I haven't been able to get my revision, right. But like once my exams are over, I go back to the plant again and I'll have times where I where I spend more time with granted other things like during school
holidays for example, that's when I tend to spend a lot more time revising then you know, during school week, you know when I have my classes on and stuff like that. So let's just do it you have to do it you have to just learn to be flexible with your routine you need to be you need to just but the most important thing is you know that that's my goal I've stuck like it's like a life goal I've I've made my mind up that that's what I what I'm working towards. So it's a constant thing that I it's always a part of my life I can't leave that's what really comes down to
someone was asking about some tips. Okay, I'm going to add one I think we started gave a couple of tips already. You're going to ask something for someone who has like basic Arabic basic Arabic background maybe just knows the basic words and even if you don't know the basic words let's try learning the basic words. In Iran we have courses we have courses today which teaches you Quranic Arabic Yeah, and it just gives you a wrap of us like touches precious upon the Arabic of the Quran. For me memorizing one thing which helps you not to forget is the meanings Yeah, it makes me not to forget but sometimes you have a nice eye x which sounds similar due to the writing the writing
scheme of the brand you can easily confuse them and take an example with for example words like okay, salaries are the mean meaning sometimes if you just recite it maybe it's been launched into memory since you read that page. You pick up a bunch of sites to get you can easily interchange those words. Let's take an example for when we're leveling up a missionary in a hospital join relaxing to the end of the aisle Allah says in the La La saga he left so if you to the rhyming scheme, you could okay in the lot of arms running but then you remember okay in the Lamaze I mean that's not possible. Yeah. So
was so nearly you know that no, it's outside of me. Yeah, it can be okay, definitely gonna be like that either. So all these kinds of things knowing the meanings of the brand, and a couple of pages, there are pages which,
which before I joined the hip school, the pages of Brian, which I haven't memorized, but maybe just watch it in like maybe your Instagram like a short clip of someone reciting it with the meanings, it catches my attention. And after watching the clip, maybe I watched the clip over 45 times because of the meanings of that it just sticks to my head and it doesn't go again no matter even though I don't revise it for a long time doesn't go out because the meanings have I just talked to her. So I find out that other people who have like a shallow Arabic background like they know they know some Arabic but did not like implement using Arabic during memorizing and like trying to know the meanings
difficult and maybe
like I said to you when I when I started out memorizing the Quran, I was writing that English in the transliteration I was writing the English underneath so what happened was you know, if you're writing well because I was writing English under the words you know, the the you know, the Arabic transliteration you know, essentially understand a semi words you know, what are you know, he started putting up vocabulary like that. So, that's that actually memorizing with the meaning helped me to boot up my vocabulary
that was the way I did it. But I also have to admit, I did go and learn Arabic too, as a language that makes a big difference. Yeah, that does that does help a lot. You know, and now when I read the Quran, like 100 years ago, I understand it now like very well, you know, because I've been I've been with Arabic for so many years that I'll probably alone understand are like the Quran more than a lot of Arabic speakers. And hamdulillah she started speaking in Australia, not Arabic speakers overseas but arguably because in Australia definitely I would think that I do probably understand the grant more than they do. You know, Jim said because I've lived with her and the people in Australia in
general like it won't appear anything that that I have that kind of background
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