Channel: The Deen Show
Bismillah Alhamdulillah Salaam Alaikum. Peace be with you. Welcome to the deen show on guided. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Welcome to Goddess TV and a version of the deen show. We are with shade use of St. Louis. On goddess TV de show live. We got a live studio audience and we're going to be asking some tough questions. The time is short and we got to get with it, we got to my left should be to my right. But to my left over here, we start with
Josh Evans, Joshua Evans with Tysabri and shake use of esters and we begin with peace.
All right, so we got some questions now not to waste time, I'm gonna go straight into a serious business now, this is serious business on a D show our guidance TV channel, 99, Channel 99 on World TV channel 19 on galaxy and also channel 25 on galaxy.
yeah. Okay. So now we have some questions in the show audience and also from our live audience here.
Now, first, we want to know that people want to know that you guys, you know, we have a lot of non Muslims out there potential Muslims. You know, we know that Islam is the fastest growing life in the world today, yet most misunderstood. So we want to clear many of these misconceptions that are on the minds of the people. So one thing that we have people want to know now, do you guys have any affiliation with Osama Obama or al Qaeda?
anybody, anybody can take the mic and run NASA.
We have no affiliation with
affiliation, and to the extent that he's the president of our country. And
some would call that my Bible sound, but actually around the Bible
as a way of life that is inclusive of Muslims from all parts of the globe, from Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America. And so while the individual that you mentioned, may be a Muslim, the majority of the salvos of the Muslim world have identified him as being someone who has one outside of the
hay bales want to add some to that Joshua Evans use of esters, I'm happy. Okay, so we're gonna continue on now leading into the next question. This question is similar to the one we just add, that we just asked, tell us if the for the The question is asking if now first is I'm going to just kind of add my own twist to it. Okay. If because it's talking about the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber and the Time Square bomber? Yeah. So if the shoe bomber because we have all these types of bombers, or the underwear bomber, the pajama Obama or the Tasker Obama was to come to you for some advice before one of these incidents happened, how would you talk to and address the issue with this
individual to prevent something like this?
anyone came to tell me that they want to use violence, to solve any issue that they have on anyone, and that into what it is in people to accomplish any agenda that they have. And then they tell me that they're Muslim. The first thing I would tell them is they lost their mind completely. They have to be crazy.
psychological help. And number two is to know that the things that they are attempting to do and validate the very religion, which they are professing to believe in is a good Muslim, because there is not one single iota of evidence from any authentic religion, religious teaching in Islam, that allows us to use violence against innocent people to
vent our anger or political agendas. It is not possible in a sense, the only type of aggression that is allowed in his family is in defense of human life, dignity and justice. And this is very clear in the teachings
that were associated even though
Words that they use and the terminology that they use, you know that the jihad is a global war, from Muslims, orphaned Muslims to you know, extract the revenge and dominance over the world is pretty much an oxymoron. Because the word Jihad itself or any context of it that we see in the wrong order, the teacher, the Prophet Muhammad, peace is an idea to prevent the taking of innocent lives to prevent injustice to prevent oppression, to prevent people from being subdued, beyond their rights and capacities of human beings. And the word Jim knows the struggle to prevent that.
Is that is pretty much oxymoron, and comes from a lack of understanding of the very ideology itself from the Islamic teachings.
On this episode of the deen show, on guidance TV, we make use of ss matassa Brie and Joshua Evans, we know that you should make use of estus. And this I think is directed to you. And actually you can pass on because all of you were former Christians. And now you have
by your free choice, you decided to be Muslims and simply a Muslim is one who surrendered submits to the One God so did any of your family members, the questioner is asking, disown you because of this decision that you made in your lives.
We can pretty upset about the whole thing because after all, here, I've been preaching to them out of the Bible. And some of them were kind of loose Christians to start with, but I put pressure on them to tighten it up. You know, follow Christianity, here's the Bible. That's what we got to do. And when they come into mind and start really getting serious about religion, then all of a sudden I swing over to Islam. It's like, Oh, man. So yeah, initially, but then later, come to love. My father became a Muslim. My stepmother, she said that the first step of Shahada right before she died. And since then, I've had a much better relationship Really?
Well, have you not had much opposition from my family? Actually, my nuclear family will be coming up with just my mother. And she took her Shahada three months before she turned
Me and for, in fact, when Allah Allah, called her back, she died in Ramadan, on yo jar. So for me, that was like, confirmation re affirmation. This is in fact, the truth.
For me, I'm pretty much the same. I really didn't broadcast my exam to my family right away, I just began to change my behavior. Because right before the exam, I was doing very, very bad things. And I was not very good person, when they saw the change in the behavior when I became a better son, a better grandson, better brother, and better, you know, person individually, they were questioning me, you know, what has changed in you? And is this change real, then I let them know that it was a snap, that has changed me and be a better person. And even up to this day, my father is really though, and my sister read only people left and in my immediate family. My father today is very
proud that his son is a Muslim and goes around the world telling people about an exam and tries to do good. He's very, very proud of that he has no problems with it whatsoever, even though he himself has not come to Islam yet.
Next question on the minds of the people people want to know now our next question is asking, Why do Muslims say that God didn't have a son and that Jesus is not God? Take it away death and the third judgment, the mercy of Allah, these are the things that finally made me realize there is no time to delay anymore. I want you to take my Shahada right there is really the essence of spirituality is to become more sincere to last
decades. So it is very, very scary, but it brings you back to reality there is a life which is everlasting. And you have to make a conscious decision of which group of people do you want to be the people or the people of hell? Hello.
I'm not afraid.
I'm not afraid.
I'm not afraid.
Why'd you miss some so that God didn't have
My son, and that Jesus is not God, take it away, each one of us can probably give you some good scores on that. I'll try to keep this short. It's very clear in the parameter that Allah said. So this isn't an option for a Muslim if you understand what the Quran means, you understand it is the actual speech of Oh my God, in Arabic language. And in it, he said, Oh,
say Who? Allahu Ahad. He's a lot and he's uniquely one.
English doesn't have this kind of one, by the way.
We say one, we mean one in Arabic, you say why head.
But when you say I had, this is meaning a one that there isn't going to be a two coming out.
this means the law is totally independent on his creation, but creation needs him all through eternity. Now listen carefully, lamb. Now lamb is kind of like no way Jose. Okay? lamb
for sure is not the father of anybody will land new land is not the son of anybody.
And it's not like anything that you could ever imagine. Nothing. Immigration is not immigration is not the creation, like Hindus believe, or some of the others. He is totally independent of this creation. And then again, it says, level
he is unique. So I think it's pretty clear why we would say that because the law said he doesn't have a son.
And God is a man and a son as a man as a shamanistic religion, it was the ladies.
And babies don't come from men. Do they?
know they compromise? So why is it this is wrong?
When we look at the Bible,
and we understand that the word spoken about Jesus or legend ever spoken about Jesus, sometimes regarded as a Red Dead version with the red letters printed in the New Testament, to be his words, you never find the Prophet Jesus ever referred to himself as the Son of God, he always refers to himself as the Son of Man,
as the Son of Man, and the term sons of God, were found throughout the Bible in many, many places. So Jesus was the only one called that. But even in the Old Testament, some of the prophets were called sons of man, this was a metaphorical expression. It didn't mean that God physically sired a son through the agency of a female. What have you learned? So we refer to Jesus as he saw himself as a son of man,
and we worship the one whom he worship.
For me realistically, when it comes to study, there's a very good show that myself and Eddie did on the nature of the top 10 reasons why Jesus cannot be God and God cannot be a man, but realistically is because there is no
religious scripture anywhere that makes this claim from any prophet of God, this is coming from other sources. And very clearly, when we look at the teachings of God throughout the entire the Old Testament, he never teaches this theory God is One unique when we read the, what is it called? The famous statement that is in the Old Testament, which is known as the Jewish
well recited statement, they recite every Sabbath, Hebrew Israel, the Lord your God is one in Deuteronomy, yes. And it's in this is, as you describe the Oneness that is describing the Hebrew language is very similar to the Arabic language. And it's very clear that this is the exact same teaching that Jesus Himself makes. When they asked him what was the greatest commandment? What did he say? He said, Well, I'll tell you, the first commandment is to Hear O Israel, the Lord your God is one, though your God is one and that oneness that he referred to, is very, very clear without knowing the verse by verse by verse by verse, we just have to understand this one is that you were
speaking about it is very similar to what he said the word I've had in the in the additive language, we have a number for one, right? What is the what is the word for the number one and none of it was correct? Yes.
If I take y and I add it to our people I get, I get its name I get to, but the word in the Hebrew language is synonymous to the word and editing language that Jesus Himself used in the animated Aramaic language that is in Arabic, he said.
He'll use Windows oh god is one in reference to the exact same word.
If you take a head, which symbolizes a unique oneness which you spoke about, and you take a head and you add it to it, you can.
You can, you can see, the very word is
one without the possibility of addition or subtraction. It is a one all alone by itself. And this is who God taught that he was throughout the entirety of the Old Testament. And this is Jesus talk God was so to say that Jesus called himself the Son of God goes in contradiction to the very teachings, he came to profess verse without going backwards. It just goes in contradiction to the very teachings. He professed about God and God's nature.
There's one more thing about this, by the way, if you want more clarification, there's a website we have called 911, Bible 911 bible.com. And it says some of who read the article.
Moving on to the next question, with our wonderful guests. Our wonderful panel here now we're here to university broadcasting live. And I think many can relate to this now. Okay, basically paraphrasing the question, the questioner is asking, you know, they can understand he can or she can understand the simple teachings of Islam, pure monotheism, worshiping the one creator and not his creation. They can understand the concept of accountability, paradise Hellfire reward if you do the good things that God's telling you. But now the individual is saying, you know, many people go to college for the experience. Now if I accept Islam, if I become a Muslim, just like Jesus was a
Muslim, Moses, Abraham, there are Muslims they submitted a gratis when a Muslim is. So if I accept Islam, and I become a Muslim, do I have to give up
my collection, a collection of VIP nightclub, nightclub cards, you know, and the weekend? fun time with the boys and the partying? You know, don't have to give this up.
How would you guys answer this,
during his lecture, he explained what it means. Yes,
there is that means, there is no means what he says, surrender, submission of obedience, surrender,
and peace. So you submitting yourself to the Creator, each and every single day, you know, he needs to do with sincerity, so that you can obtain peace in this life. And then the next, the very definition of Islam itself means that they're going to have to be some things that are going to have to be weeded out. things which are caught in my life that are contrary and this goes for Muslims. This is not just you know, just new Muslims, this goes for all Muslims, there are going to be things that are likely gonna have to weed out, whatever we find that our life that is contrary to this meaning is going to have to be removed. Because as he stated, to be a Muslim is an action word, it
is a verb, it means one who does Islam, one who does submit themselves to their Creator each and every single day with surrendering and obedience and security in order to attain peace. So if I'm doing something contrary to that, then I have some problems going on in my life, and those things are going to have to be removed. Because if not, you're going to find conflict, and as Jesus peace be upon him, supposedly have said in the Bible, that one heart cannot serve two masters, one heart cannot serve two masters, for he will either fall in love with one and despise the other. Or it could be both of them, you never know. But it cannot have love and servitude and obedience and
surrendering and peace to two different country ideologies, one of them is going to have to go one is going to weed itself out, unless you read it out yourself. And usually what's going to happen is the negative is going to overpower just because of the very structure of human beings, it's going to happen that way. So we're gonna have to leave those things out. Yes, but that's in an attempt to do Islam and be in
the zone or Manitoba, is recognized as the only one who has the right to make lawful and unlawful.
the most most of the things that we do, are those things that allies made law for us, there are more things that are permissible and lawful than there are that are not permissible. So the things that we used to do before we came to this lab,
we will come to know that those are things that are very harmful to us and will only bring us destruction. So what is it to give up drinking alcohol, or using drugs or chasing women, you see, or going out to the parties. That's nothing compared to the reward of peace in this life and guidance and the greatest reward to come into paradise.
I like what you said, both. Sorry. I just wanted to just add something confirming what you said. I just came back as you know
from Saudi Arabia, one of the shows that we're producing prominent, we're not doing it yet. We need to get some more technicians to help us finish it. But it's called Love at the racetrack.
Love at the racetrack, and we're talking about racing horses. Now, can you imagine
one of the first things you observe when you get there, there's no gambling whatsoever allow you will be arrested if you gamble. Another thing is there's no alcohol allowed at all anywhere in the game. So that's a whole different picture, isn't it. But what we really wanted to focus on Well, there was also there's no advertising, all of the signs that you saw around there just set a lower bar, on law under law, things like this.
But when they were putting the horses into the shoes, our friend who was a convert himself, David Rogers, and it was beautiful because he would coax the horses into the shoots with words, and guess, inspire these horses. And he calls it horse whispering. Now this is an old technique used by people that work with animals that don't want to hurt them, or they just want the animal to cooperate. We actually caught on camera, some of these
brothers who don't know is threatening to push a horse in shoving it tugging at a robot and drag it in the chute and wouldn't go. In the meantime, David is sitting on top of his horse, talking to another horse that they were trying to load. And he was skittish. But
later, when we got a chance to get to the stables and toppling in front of the horses, he said, Oh, these horses used to be afraid and skittish. If you came up, they would run to this stall. He simply stand there while we're talking and watch what happens. So while we were doing what we're doing right now shooting the show, the horse would come up and push.
It is you know, what button is sort of me? You know what I mean? Want to be on TV, I guess I don't know. But he said the reason is horses doing this love.
The horse does what he does love, he wants to please you. He wants so much to please you. Now I understand that attack the same way. They just roll over right in front of you. You're trying to walk your row right there, he wants you to scratch. And he'll put his head up against you. And he will tell you that God loves you. Why do these animals do what they do? And this was the whole point that David Rogers just wanted to make on the show. Because they really will do what they're supposed to do, if they truly love you.
if you really love
if you really know.
Because then and only then
and he will
he is the muscle.
You can very much relate to me from some of us
who have tried to you know, wow. And live that life of making just ourselves happy trying to fill ourselves with this worldly life is pleasures, clothing, awning. Anything that you can think of imaginable. And I know that Eddie is filming a documentary
about his life. And one thing that I would just let all of you young people out there know that if this life entices you, let us be the, I guess you could say that the spokesman of the anti thesis of that, that that's not going to get you anything. You know, the only thing that we were trying to do with that i know i personally was trying to do was trying to put a bandaid on the damage that I knew was inside of me. You know, with these without call with the party with all that I was trying to bandage the damage that I knew was inside of me that was like I had a big hole that I was trying to fill with these things. But know for sure that trying to fulfill it. This is one of my first
scholars that opportunity river the chicken signals very well. Like you need to tell me that for a man or woman to try to feel that hole inside of themselves, their desires with the things of this world. You might as well go to the beach and try to fill the ocean
because it is an impossibility. To do that you cannot feel your desires with anything that is tangible in this life. It is like trying to throw water out in sand into the ocean Can you feel it? You cannot and then important the statement of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon that the only thing of this world that will fulfill the desires of the human being is the depths of the grief. That's the only time we will be satisfied is when we are put inside that grade. So don't go chasing a life that is going to bring you nothing
They put in a full circle back to understanding that you need something bigger and greater than your life to really give you peace and tranquility don't mess up and go, that road is a full circle back to where you're sitting right here. And right now realizing that you need some help, and I hope it comes through this.
Continuing on here with a wonderful panel of guests on the Dijon guidance TV, I Salone, dios solo, you
go to my room
know me better than myself, so me the right way. And I will not look, I will leave everything behind.
A lot of that creator and everything is intelligent to people.
And we'd want to the next question, we got several more questions, but we got so little time. So we're going to try to get through these quickly. The next question, are you ready? asking the tough questions here on the D show was Shaykh Yusuf Estes, guidance TV. Christians feel now. Okay. They feel Christ to the Holy Spirit.
close to the Holy Spirit. What internal proof does Islam offer? That's the question. Talk to me. Let me Let's go with Tao here, and we'll go to use it. And then we'll go to
Joshua exam we have the concept of the Holy Spirit in
the spirit of holiness. But from the Islamic perspective, this is referring to the angel of revelation gibreel, Gabriel, to what the Scriptures to the prophets who received scripture, Jesus, receiving the gospel of Moses, even though that is running, receiving the scrolls,
and happiness of our southern holiday.
So we have an understanding that the spirit of holiness is not a personal experience, but it is one that only comes to the prophets and messengers from our lives chosen.
I'm just going to answer the question that you asked how do you find internal evidence for the far beneath system? There's a very beautiful version of that pretty much sums it up for me where a lot of the Almighty Creator says that in the remembrance of him, do hearts find rest and contentment. And this is the reality. And I contend that coming out of Christianity, that even though we may have had those emotional highs, you know, imagine that emotional high, but high, there's something that needs to be referred to as the replenishment, it dies very quickly, the so called infinity with the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost, but there's something different about us, that can only be experienced,
can only be experienced is that contentment, that you find it remembering the one true freedom that exists the way he wants to be remembered with that period isn't at once. So internally, the evidence is only for is only in the eyes of the beholder. It's not something that I can put out and someone else, the external evidences that God gives us is part of that eternal evidence for us to have peace in our lives, and in remembrance of God. Do hearts find that rest and contentment, and the souls have stated that the real wealth of this life is contentment with whatever you do, whether it be good or bad. And that's one thing for sure that I know without trying to Bachelors of religion, that
the Holy Spirit doesn't give you it might give you that feeling when it's good. When things are good, you might have that enjoyment of the Holy Ghost, but when it's bad, didn't have that feeling of contentment with whatever God has given you. That's something
I spent a lot of years
in business and marketing a life.
And what I remember
when you get somebody
out there, shouting, telling you how this exciting experience and how you do
and I'm going to share this one with you. Here's what I have. People all excited that
spirit of what he was talking about, but it wasn't even Christianity wasn't even limited.
here's the proof because you asked for proof
if somebody does not know Arabic language at all,
yet when they hear the words over on in Arabic language and they start crying
What is that?
What is that?
Because when I first heard the Quran beside I was trying to convert the Muslim, Christian, yet every time he would recite I feel like
again slower. Oh, that's nice. I didn't know this relax the exact words recited
by the Holy Spirit
the angel Gabriel
one of the most powerful when I used to when I was doing prison chaplain work is the verse in Surah chapter two we're stupid.
I recited this one time, and right next to where we were whole class services. Some Christians were over there being filled with the Holy Ghost.
even hear ourselves
Raji Allahu La Ilaha. You
was COO, COO, coo coo coo somehow
when I reached those last words,
these guys became totally silent
and never made another peep.
The meaning of those words named Simon says nothing in English and we'll bring it. I know I've tried many times. I'll try again tonight. For those who
don't know about Islam. Allah says here
that he's the one beside whom there is no way.
The ever living
he doesn't get tired. He doesn't sleep.
Then he has.
Of course, he tells you that he is the owner of the universe, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to him. Now comes a rhetorical question. Who
is asking? Where is the
creation? Exactly exam I have to give a permission to do so there's no intercession in Islam, except that a login permission.
Then he tells you that it's a law that has all the knowledge of everything.
And you don't have any knowledge
is courtesy extends over the universe.
And he feels no fatigue and taking.
And he is mighty, and majestic.
Thank you sure you serve. And we have a couple more question before this live filming of the D show on guidence. tv reshade use of acid with Tysabri shake metalia and Joshua Evans. hope everybody's enjoying this episode and we're going to get into the next question. Now. The question is asking p King peter king just had some hearings about the radicalization of Muslim youth. Yes. What are your thoughts about this? And does Islam promote violence and radicalization
was was almost in the garage in the way of the middle path, bounce back in categorically
denounces extremists. In fact, the Prophet Muhammad,
he said three times his slab of terrorism or extremism, extremism is destroyed, extremism will be destroyed and repeated three times. So savage encourages imbalance in the modern way of life, and forbids us to to go to extremes. And too far to the left too far to the right.
Now the hearing that we witnessed by Peter King, actually the know that the Senate committee of Judiciary Committee held another hearing about two weeks later, we'll do the flip side of his hearing is hearing promoted Islamophobia. The other hearing in the senate promoted a more balanced understanding of the rights that we have in this country. So how do you lead this this bounce even in that
it's almost a shame that we have to defend ourselves on these types of issues from these types of people.
That we even have to get it recognition that is undeserving. Because when we look at one person, saying that they are going to become an expert on the radicalization of Muslims in America, when I don't probably know any Muslims ever spoken to him, I don't know any Masjid has ever hosted him.
He's ever set foot in the 4000 Plus, that are in the United States of America.
When in reality, all three of us, including all four of us on this panel, it probably, you know, circumvented the
entire system of
everyone one that has any type of address, you know, on
that addresses on them, you know, to say that there's a problem with the Muslim youth being radicalized, and Americans are not doing enough to circumvent the problem themselves, then we have to ask the question, why has there not been a plethora of Muslims extremists doing crazy things, you know, as an outcome of this, you know, suppose
discrimination that Muslims are turning a blind eye to terrorism and extremism. And as James was saying very much just am asking to reiterate this is he was saying that there's not enough Muslims saying,
there's not enough Muslim speaking out about this, what I'm going to leave the use of that this very much in turn, according to the evidence turns out pretty much 99%.
So very clearly, when it comes to these type of things, we just kind of say that the evidence told the truth. He had to say what he had to say everybody has their right to say what they want to say that's a constitutional right before it was, let's say, we have to say, but when it comes to judging the way that we
do the talking,
one of the most important things about being a Muslim is the truth.
Even our citizens, Chapter 17, verse 81, the truth the hawk
will come, and it will destroy the very
truth will destroy the Bible, the Bible will be destroyed by the Bible is false.
Hawk, and this is the subject we started with tonight, by the way, we're talking about truth.
And I was listening to
Joshua talking about this subject, that when the truth is there, the false hood cannot exist. But when there is no truth, then there's nothing to exist except offer.
And we'll go back to what we said all night long. It's our responsibility, brothers and sisters.
And I'm saying brothers and sisters in humanity, even if you're not Muslim, you still have the responsibility. You may wish you weren't here tonight.
This is not something you can ignore this
and say, Well, I still want to believe this or that. Well, the truth
is our responsibility to say the truth. Now
I'm going to contradict you
in a little bit of way,
because I have to say the truth.
And while there are maybe 4000 plus law students in the United States, and 99.9% of all of those
are bringing out some of the best of the youth that we have some of the great youth that we have here working with us tonight.
Still, that's not always the case. There are some Muslims
who have been misguided, and when some really stupid things.
And I know that to be a fact because there's a mosque across the street from my house two houses down. In other words, walk out in the middle of the street, walk for 60 seconds and you're inside the monster. That's it. You guys know, right? It was in that exact old house.
were five of our own brothers in Islam,
and drew up plans
to sneak off,
get on an airplane and fly to Pakistan, jump off the plane and declare jihad.
first of all,
we know that Pakistan
tariffs are really about
numbers new not
I found out when I was on the road all the time I found out when I came back, okay, big.
Ask me what you did teach these guys, guys. And they started telling me what's going on. And I'm like, Oh, my God, I need to hear something about some boys
from your house.
So we're going to teach him I said,
I'm bored all the time. I'm not here.
And then they brought it home. What the FBI said to me.
They said how you go around the world. But you can go across the street.
I said, What do you mean, they said, we've seen your stuff. We know who you are. We mentioned you by the way.
What do you think?
They said, We know you guys will know what you're about. And, you know, we want you to teach this the real Islam.
I was shocked. They were telling me they literally said go across the street and start teaching these guys. How do you let this happen?
If the United States FBI is coming to me and say, I'm wondering,
May Allah help us
to know Are there any non Muslims still with us here? Have you enjoyed yourselves?
We certainly glad that you took the opportunity to comment demonstrated courage we commend you for the courage to come out and meet with us. We have a question for you.
Are you ready to obey the law
along with our partners or histories? Do you believe in God? You would you consider this as a way of life for you to become
he said yes. He said yes.
Who else would like to
know anybody else?
Now Maggie, raise your hand.
You raise your hand right?
I like this name.
I just watched Sesame Street.
Anyway, it's nice to have you guys with us tonight. We do the menu and we make
we don't need to clap for you. We want to give you something better than just clapping and noise. Oh, how many of you wasn't if I say a prayer Arabic let's say on me.
I will move on.
Yo, Deena so I was lucky
enough Serato was lucky
that our Lord guys did the straight path.
Whoever says this deep in your heart
instead of a piece we ever please please reach out to everybody that attended and peace be unto you. My guests are salaam aleikum,
It is what we need for you and me. Peace, the solution for humanity
pieces what we need