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thing I appreciate about a lot of Muslims is, I don't know if it maybe is because of your 21st century oppression. So you know about shaytaan Oh, yeah. And I want to really appreciate, you know, the sincerity that you have for 300 years the church mold, dude, I'm starting to think that the devil is like, kind of like a really, really sick comedian where he's always trying to over those two words. for 2000 years, the church has taught that God and the Trinity are synonym 16 and onwards. How do you remember
that one night
Assalamu alaikum greetings of peace. Welcome to the D show. We have another exciting show. He's back again. He's an actor, comedian. He was also the script writer for a louder from Crowder also helped to write a I believe a theme song for Tommy Robinson. Guess who's back here on the D show. Our good friend, Owen Benjamin, go ahead and subscribe right now. Hit that notification bell. Help us get our numbers back up. Did you know that many years ago, the de show and we started 2006. We used to broadcast for many years and halifa clothing channel currently known as digital minbar. So we're trying to get our numbers back up because the channel at that time got closed, then we started the
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like 105 and Idaho. And this is the coolest place I could find. Did I hit all those points? Right actor, comedian, former script writer for Crowder route louder Crowder. And then I hit all those right there leave anything out? Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been at this a long time. Those are some interesting credits. I guess. It's been quite quite a journey. I friend. I started I started Yeah, we I want to talk to you about comedy today. Anyway, so like the journey of it. It's been pretty interesting. I started as a piano player, and then a headquarter Renaissance Fair where I made fun of people who threw tomatoes at me when I was in high school.
And then I sat I did stand up comedy for a bed open for Kevin Hart before anyone knew he was in college, and then on Sandler put me in some movies, because you saw me do stand up. And then I did Lando and Fallon and all this other stuff. And then, you know, I was one of the leads of a sitcom in LA. And then I was outspoken about being against transgender children, because I thought it was insane. And so then my agent manager dropped me. And then, you know, as you're, as you're kind of leaving the beast, the next level is kind of grabby. And the next level was like the Neo con type, like Prager and Crowder and all those people, I thought they were speaking more the truth. And then
when I started getting out of some of those illusions, I left, you know, same with Tommy Robinson and all those guys. And now I'm just kind of doing my own thing. And, um, you know, I do a lot of farming and I do a live stream every day and we have an app and we're trying to really figure out the best way to keep comedy going and not having it be so illusion based in political you know,
we're going to touch upon a lot of different things. I really, really enjoyed talking to you last time we got such a positive feedback. A lot of the bears you know, they really enjoyed it. And yeah, so we just really connect it was really positive program we did I have a good friend of mine. He's also going to join us His name is Dr. Seville, Doc Seville. How are you? No stranger. He's from gain peace, the director of game peace. Oh, and Benjamin. This is Dr. Seville. He's gonna be joining us on this episode of the deen show. Sweet. All right. Thank you.
Good, good. Good to see you. You too.
I want to get right into this. You did a program not too long ago. And I'm going to show some clips you've been talking about? We'll talk about farming towards the end. We want to talk about something that's precious to you to us, you know, the purpose purpose of life, you know, talk about, you know, many of the things you know the moral decay of society.
touch upon that, you know, a lot of the commonalities that we have. We'll talk about the beard. He touched on that.
But let me start off with this clip. There was an intervention not too long ago,
where there was an intervention, what was it called a trinity intervention for early intervention? Yeah, yeah. So now you brought up there was Dr. Rachel Patrick coffin, Dr. Michael Jones, and then a gentleman by person by the name of Milo, he organized this. Well, how did that? How did that start off? Why? What was what was the whole pretext behind setting this up? Why would they? Because I've seen some of your videos, you were kind of questioning the Trinity.
Yeah, I mean, and I'm friendly with all these people. I love you, Michael Jones, and Dr. Brown. And I didn't know Patrick coffin before that intervention. And then I know Milo, he's, he's a really interesting character, you know, he's a real trickster, but I root for the guy. And so this all came about, because as a Christian I, I was questioning Jesus being God. And I know there's a little heavy just for like, a conversation. But like, I don't think it's really backed up in the Bible personally, like, I was always, like, Who's he praying to, you know, and I was being very innocent about it. And I don't, I'm not mad at people who think that, like, I'm used to having a lot of
friends and acquaintances having different beliefs. But, you know, my thing is, I might be wrong, but I'm not lying. That's always what I go with. And that allows me to, to live a life with a heart based life where I can make mistakes and keep going is because at the time I believe it, you know, and so I had all these questions about, um, you know, Jesus doing the bidding of his father, and how you can be your own father and all these like, basic questions, you know, and I was raised Catholic and, and to get more into the Bible, I started seeing it more as God, and then Jesus being the representative on Earth, the logos incarnate. And so they did this, this like intervention. And I
thought it went pretty well, because I don't know, I took it with a grain of sand, you know, but I just like, I don't know why people care so much about it. You know, it seems like that dogma is kind of made it like the center point of so much of Christianity these days, and there's so much in the Bible that
is so interesting, and so helpful, especially in these tumultuous times that I don't get why that's the be all end all so many churches. And so, yeah, that's what that's about. One thing that I wouldn't I would have, I would have disagreed in the beginning, before you've even got into the Trinity was the homestead, you know, the civilization is to be in the city. You know, what I mean? And this, and people trying to look down upon that, you know, who are not really keen to really like you talk about planting your own fruit trees, you know, your saw your sons getting out there developing good work ethic, connecting with nature, you know, what I mean? growing your own food,
right away from GMOs away, you know, nutrition, proper nutrition, and it's like, people looking at I think it was kind of made to seem like, okay, the quote was, you know, to be civilization is in the cities, you know? And,
yeah, which is crazy to me. And that's why I think that the real disconnect with people is a lot more between rural and urban, and basically, how much sovereignty and how much responsibility Have you taken upon yourself. And it's really interesting that that to get out of some of these spells, was, a lot of it had to do with living a more similar life, like, like rural Christianity, or rural Islamic people would probably have a lot more in common than super urban members of even their same religion sometimes, because you have a lot, your life is more similar, you know, I, when I used to, you know, after the 911 spell, I, you know, blamed I was never like, hardcore, but I was like, you
know, we got to go to war, you know, we got to we got to avenge. You know, never forget all that stuff like it, you know, it made sense to me at the time. And as that spell faded, and one of the reasons it faded was I got my own goats, and I was attacked by the media, and I saw a lot of the same patterns that they did to Muslims happened to me and, you know, being a self sustaining guy with goats, you know, like mocking that. And then some of my friends were doing the same jokes against me that I was doing against Muslims, which were more just like rural. It's not even it's a category error. It's all very interesting. But like, I started being like, Oh, no, that's not what
that means. And then I saw how the media was attacking me and try to categorize me is a political position, and not just who I am and I saw the same pattern that we're doing in Muslims, and I don't hold on to grudges or spouse.
The minute I see through it, even if it costs me a lot of social points and financial points, you know, that was one of the disagreements I had with a lot of neo cons is that, um, you know, Islam isn't the enemy, you know, it's like especially Another reason is, you know, you can see mass migration is you can say that flooding a country with a lot of people from another country to keep this, this debt based nonsense global machine going, sure, but I noticed a very tricky thing they were doing, they kept talking about Muslim immigrants, but yet in America, you'd say Mexicans, not Christians, you know, like, most Mexicans are Catholic or Christian, but you wouldn't categorize
them as that you'd say Mexicans. So it's interesting how you have tribe and religion, these two categories. And another thing that ingratiated me to Islamic culture is one out very close friend who's one of the wisest people I know. And he's really Muslim. And also, I don't believe in debt, like personally, like I think data is how a lot of people are manipulated. And so um, I like to listen to YouTube videos about economics and data and money. And the only ones I could find in that world were Islamic scholars, because every other economic system seems to be like, Oh, this is cheap dad, expensive dad bother all this. And I'm like, I wanted advice from people that don't want any
debt, like no mortgage, no debt. And so I kept being drawn to Islamic scholars, and then you see through the lies, and
if you're being attacked that hard by the MAS by the media, you're probably doing something right. So that's kind of my, my journey out of,
you know, out of seeing Muslims as as the enemy and seeing like the spell for what it is, you know, we're gonna jump into some of these clips and get your guy's reaction. But you mentioned 911, what do you think about this one, I know if you've ever heard
David Ray Griffin, he said all the all the evidence that America was a tennis is a Christian. Now, Professor Emiratis, he said, the evidence that all the evidence that's presented that America was attacked by Muslims on 911, when subjected to critical scrutiny appears to have been fabricated. This is a Christian who came out he wrote the most on this. So we have a new slogan, when it comes around. Never forget, we will never forget Islam and Muslim had nothing to do with 911. I don't know if you know, this is the new slogan. Good for you. Yeah. And, and even if it was 19, people who call themselves Muslim, there's nothing in the Quran. I've asked a bunch of my friends about this.
There's no commandment or anything, it has nothing to do with Islam. And you can't label you can't put a label on a billion plus people for the actions and 19 like, no white Christian American would want that, you know, like the actions of a small group of people being perpetuated on to a demographic is without question, a bad thing to do. So I think after the emotions of that, and then the truth or movement of like, what happened to building seven and all this stuff, you know, I actually swung too far the other way for a little while. And I was like, feeling victimized by like Jews and Zionists and stuff, and how, like, they tricked me and dad and pornography and all that.
And then I realized that they're also being used by, you know, shaitan, it's like
these guys are, are being used in the system, the same what, like, much worse, actually. And so the key is just to get out of debt yourself, don't consume their media. And then you see them as a lot of people that are just way off the path and could use a little love themselves, you know? Yeah. Well, you so you know, about shaytaan? Hmm. Oh, yeah. My best friends is Mazda. And like, the interesting thing is, it's a lot. One thing I appreciate about a lot of Muslims is, I don't know if it maybe is because your 21st century oppression, especially in the West, but you're way more connected to the religion of it, like yeah, like you, you are living it more like it's real, versus
a lot of American Christians on are more detached from it. The rural ones are more connected, but a lot of big mega churches and stuff. I'm like, You're not even reading it. Like it's real. You know, like, I have all these questions, and I'm trying to connect to God, I'm like, really taking this stuff seriously. And a lot of them are like, they act like it's not real. And then you have a lot of Muslims. I know. And a lot of, you know, the Amish, the Mennonites, some of the Mormons, I know, like, it's not just Muslims, but it's like, a lot of the Muslims I know are in it more. And I really respect that about you guys. Because it's like, it's not just like an intellectual idea. It's not a
place to go on Sundays. It's like a real way to live your life and, you know, that's why I'm trying to pick up the plow and do my work and really connect to nature and to God as much as I can.
The city people, they, they don't seem like they have any interest in it at all, you know, munch it out is gonna appreciate what you're saying regarding that, thank you let's let's go into these clubs. This is the inter the famous intervention, right? She's one of the sacred mysteries of the Catholic faith. And it's a truth that is beyond human comprehension. We can know that God exists through reason, but we couldn't know what he was like, unless he told us, and he told us through the Scriptures, basically with you by using two words, the two words are logos, and sun,
and B, and for 300 years, the church, mulled over those two words, and they came up with the doctrine of the Trinity. But since the Trinity is the ultimate reality of the universe, there's evidence of the Trinity in nature. And one of the people who discovered this was Pythagoras, probably the first one who discovered it and discovered it in the realm of number. And number four Pythagoras, one had meaning all the numbers had meaning and the number one
And the number two men diversity.
And the number three, met unity in diversity.
If you take unity in diversity, another word for that is beauty.
And beauty is a transcendental, which means it's an attribute of God. And so you have an example of the
evidence of the Trinity in nature itself. Which kind of diffuses the whole issue of accepting it completely on faith alone. All right, so what's going on here for you guys? I don't know, Owen, Benjamin, here's on the right. And then you have Dr. Rachel here, you have Patrick coffin, and Dr. Michael Jones, who were just speaking, so we're going to go through some of the videos and they're what they're doing. Help me out on is that they're trying to persuade you or they're trying to do an intervention, because you're questioning some of these things. So we're going to look at some of the argues that they're making just talk about it. Dr. Seville, if give you a background, oh, and he's
actually a medical doctor by profession, he gave up his medical career to go ahead and help educate people and on Islam to dedicate his life full time, he runs a organization called gain peace. He's a director of game peace. And he's also here to answer any questions that you have also on Islam, because I remember you said before you about bringing out any mom, so he's the closest thing to that. So he's, he's someone who's also an expert in comparative religion. He's dedicated a great portion of his time, to the Bible, to understanding it, and to
helping, you know, create dialogue and these kind of talks with people of other faiths. So what do you think? doxa? Do you want to comment on it? Or Oh, and Bitcoin? Who wants to go first on?
Yes, yes, sir. Brother. Oh, and you know, as soon as I saw that video, no, I didn't see that whole one hour. 30 minutes, right. I mean, I started to watch it. It was just too overwhelming. Yeah, the way that they were stopping you and ridiculing you, I thought, I just felt right. Yeah, they muted me. So I just started going like this and like,
you are doing like this. And you were trying to say something, he kept unmuting you. But regardless, you know, this person who came up and he said, you know, Catholic, they believe in Trinity, mathematical equation and beauty in nature. Didn't you realize that he failed to give a single evidence from the Bible? Yeah, yeah, totally. And I will say, I love you, Michael, John's, and all those people like they are good people. Like I'm not mad at them at all. But like, that was totally, I was the only one coin the by one, I could stop laughing. And our thing is, I was the only one in nature. So it keeps talking about nature. And I'm like in nature, like surrounded by nature. And I
like guys, you know, you I know about all the numbers in nature, there's fours, there's twos, there's five, eights, there's nine weights, you get into the some of the fractals, you know, and I get what they're saying. And I understand how there is a lot of threes in nature, you know, where it's like, Father, Mother child, you know, we have all kinds of, you know, ice water, gas, all that stuff, but like, I instinctively have a feeling like to apply that to God is off and and I have a right to think that way. And if people have a problem with that, that's their problem, because I have not distanced myself from people that believe that at all. In fact, I got an invalid form. It
seemed like the reaction against me was so disproportionate where it's like they were almost more mad at me for saying Jesus wasn't God like that statement. Uh, and I was like, he's in like, doing God's will. He's like, connected. He's like,
Fully in the will of God. But it wasn't enough. It was like that anger made me start as a comedian. You know, you can feel the stress. It's almost like being a Seuss. Like, there's a knot there and you're like, Oh, that's where I got to hit. Because it's like, the overreaction where you can't do a joke about, you know, Caitlyn, Bruce Jenner or whatever. Like, when I saw that I'm like, that's where I got a joke. Or when it's like, you can't do jokes about men and women anymore out of Hollywood, like, I'm like, so that's where I got ahead. And the same thing happened with Trinity Rouse. Like, why are you calling me a heathen, saying, I'm going to house and I'm not Christian, all
this stuff, when like, Jesus in the Bible is talking about praying to God, and how we'll do more than he ever did, and how to help connect us to God, the Father and all this stuff. And I'm like, I don't see it in the Bible. And then people like john 316, and all this stuff, and I'm like,
but there's so much that isn't that. And so, and I'm not a theologian, and I don't. It's like, if I go too far into that, or that's why I don't go into politics, either. I can't do my job as a comedian, because I can't have six hours. But like, I felt it was my obligation as somebody that makes fun of stuff, you know. And the joke that I I started doing was, uh, you know, they'd say, 100%, man, 100% God, I'm like, and so then I'm like, so can I pray to the Holy Ghost like, 100% ghost 100% God? And they're like, No, that doesn't make any sense. I'm like, I know, right? I'm like, goes to God to then it's like, oh, no, the ghost isn't gone, like 100% ghost 100%. God, you
know, and they're like, No, no, it's just the other way, though. I'm like, What if it's a trinity and all three are one and all one or three than the ghost is God. And they're like, and a lot of people laughed at that because our Catholic upbringing really didn't explore the Bible as much as some of my other Christian friends I have now rural Christians that are more biblically based. We'd all ask these questions, and everyone just told us to shut up when we were kids. And then we just never went back to it and it just became part of our identity. You know,
you know, one one stark difference between Catholicism, Christianity compared to Islam, they are close to 700 passages in the Quran, that encourages and obligates people to speak up to think and ponder and ask questions. Yeah, blindly believe just because our parents and ancestors used to believe certain way. That's what makes us different from animals. Right? We are different. Yes, exactly. Dude, exactly. Yeah, animals react. I mean, animals are very beautiful. I'm with him right now, as you can see. Oh, like the difference is, they're based in a world of reaction. There's a lot of love in animals. I got love for animals, but it's, they don't have that other gear, that I'm not
going to give up. It's the same thing with what's happening with a lot of the global stuff. You know, I will I we don't need to discuss it. I'd like to test it out. What it's like, what it's like to not be able to question things. A, I could not be a comedian at all, you know, I used to do bits about all the nonsense, or it's like someone just someone invited me to go to a to a skin cancer walk in Los Angeles. And I was like, outside, you know, like little silly jokes like that, where it's like, hanging out. I mean, where it's like, oh, Caitlyn Jenner's Woman of the Year, but hasn't been a woman for a full year? Isn't that mathematically impossible? You know, like, those little
things are what make a comedian, a comedian. And those are also a thing that make you a living man, you know, more more in the realm of of God's creation, and not just servitude. I think there's some real nefarious powers to be that one is a lot more like cattle than like living men. And that is in a world of reaction where the mass today take the mask off, do this, don't do that, you know, and I just won't do that. Because if you give that up, you give up all the gifts you have, you know, here's the second. Here's the second one. Dr. Rachel, we'll get you after this talks to bill. So I'd like to test it out with us. The problem of understanding the Trinity is a problem of understanding
how the maker of all things heaven and earth, can enter into his own artwork, right? And this is it's the way Tolkien puts it in one of his dialogues, where he said the elephant, the woman are talking saying, wouldn't it just break everything, to have the author of all things, in fact, become part of the story, which is why it breaks our brains to consider it right. And I think I heard you saying, we don't understand how do you conceptualize creation, right? How do you understand that that the idea that we're all made, we're all creatures we're also Well, one of my favorite authors is Dorothy Sayers and she has a wonderful book called the mind of the maker where she talks through
this this metaphor of what it means to say, God is the maker of heaven and earth, and how In fact, the Trinity is a metaphor that's helping us understand what it means to be artists, made in the image and likeness of God which this is different from the
Yeah, yeah, I mean, again, you know, not a single passage from the Old Testament, New Testament, any scripture, just philosophical, just philosophical, you know, one of the marks of a true faith is that it does not defy our hearts, our minds and the scriptures. Because there are so many faces out there. And you know, we don't have to be a theologian to to demarcate you know, which one is the right and which one can be the diluted versions of the original. So, when we look at, you know, the philosophical discussion that she's mentioning, right away, if I were there, I would have alluded to the Old Testament and the New Testament and gave her two passages. One purchase from the Old
Testament is the very first commandment of the 10 commandments. In the book of Exodus, chapter 20, verse number three, God says, Do not take any other God besides me, right Singler besides me, yeah, it means no human, no Holy Ghost, no animal, no idol, can be equated with God. That is the very first the most important commandment of the 613 commandments of the Old Testament. When it comes to the New Testament, whether or not you'll be so surprised to find out that one time a Jewish person approached Jesus, and asked him a million dollar question, that of all the commandments of the Old Testament, which one is the first the greatest of all of them?
This is in the Gospel of Mark the second gospel, chapter number 12, verse number 29, Jesus, he replied, that Hear, O Israel, the Lord, our God is only one way of worship Him. He didn't say, worship me. When he goes, worship Him, with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. And that is the first commandment. In fact, there's a passage in the New Testament don't remember where where Jesus
actually stopped someone from giving him honor and says, Give it to God. And it's those situations where I'm like, how is that make any sense if he's got like, someone was giving him the honor giving him the worship? And he literally said, No, he said, don't do that. Give it to the Father. And this is in my Christian Bible. And I'm like, I don't see. And this is a cool thing about Islam and Christianity. There's one reason why I think these lines are so heavy in the sand, is because without the Trinity, Islam and Christianity shouldn't be enemies. Like they shouldn't. You know, even with the Trinity, I wouldn't be an enemy of somebody that believes something else to me, but
like, you're worshiping the same God, you know, and so it's like, yeah, my what my Muslim friend is, like, informed me that you guys have an updated version. And he's like, Oh, yeah, Muhammad, peace be pot, you know, but I'm like, the broad strokes aren't that different? It just isn't really anything to be super fired up about, you know, yet there's a there's a passage the one you're I think you're referring to that's Mark 1018, where man came to him and said, Oh, good Master, what good thing can I do that I may have eternal light mean, how do I get to paradise? He said, Why do you call me good? There's none good, but God, that's just like someone I always compared coming to me as a martial
artist, and someone's just like, man, Eddie, you could just kick some butt your soul, you know, and I'm just being humble, you know what I mean? But Jesus, now he's like, supposed to be the Creator of the heavens and earth, you know? No, he's being humbling, saying, look, you know, he's saying, God is the greatest, you know, turn all your love to God, you know what I mean? He's keeping it humble, and directing that person in every all of them to the one that he worship to the creator to the heavens and earth. So in john chapter five, verse number 30, Jesus is mentioning to his people to the disciples, saying that I have myself, I cannot do anything. Whatever I hear I judge. My judgment
is true, because I seek not my own will, but the will of God who sent me. So important. Is that, yeah, and that's why it's not even. It's not unchristian to question these things. When you read the New Testament, that's why people get so mad at me. And I'm like, I don't I don't understand the anger. There's also and even the parts that the trinitarians are so obsessed about, like, I can't I think it might have been Philip, but it was a was like, basically, how do I know God? And Jesus basically said, you've been with me this whole time, have you not known god this whole, you know, I equate that to like, being in the when you're that committed to the will of God, you feel the
presence around prophets around, you know, his his servants, like if somebody dedicates their life to God on that level, it's like, having you felt God when you're with me, like, I'm doing as well, you know, and other people say like, that means he is God. And I'm like, so did he make himself and then they say, Ah, well, in Genesis, in the beginning, I think there was a plural like we or something, there was like a plural verbiage. And I'd have any ideas about that, like in the beginning, who is God with in the in the plurality of that? Yeah, in the in the book of Genesis chapter number one.
Verse number 2616 and onwards, how do you remember
passages which are so important of contention that, you know, we just need to know them? That's amazing.
But when it says in there that let us make man in our image, right? So that trinitarians, they will look at it and say, you know, there you go, there is a US there is a plural, there's a trinity. But those people who knows Hebrew or Arabic, they know that in the Semitic languages, they can be a royal v. Royal plural of authority. Interesting. Yeah. So this is how the language is are. So in the Quran, also, it speaks about V, when God is only referring to one person singular. So this is just the nature of the language. So people who don't know Hebrew or Aramaic or Arabic, they think this is a plural of Trinity. No, this is a plural of authority. For that reason, not a single Jewish scholar
in the history, they took that as Trinity, they took that as a plural of authority. Okay, right, we need to talk about the Word of God, the written word of God has the Trinity all over it, even though we need an external authority to kind of draw that out and synthesize it. But it's a really funny meme like this. And it's my picture of how bad catechesis has become an instruction, the faith. So it's, it's our Lord in the garden of good 70. And he's like pleading against a rock. And he's saying, Dad, it's me. You
know what, so the all I want to say is what might help you and I'm not trying to convert you, because I can't, but what might help is, okay, so it's, it's the distinction between a nature and a person.
See, for 2000 years, the church has taught that God and the Trinity are synonyms. God is a trinity, even if he hadn't created anything. He's still father and the son is always being generated in the eternal Godhead. What really helped me from Frank sheets book was that all analogies are really, really,
they're prone to limping badly when it comes to the Godhead, because you can always find some flaw in it and then dismiss it. But the distinction between nature and person to me it was like lightbulb after light bulb going off, that God is one nature, he's he's divine, he's uncreated. He's all holy. And that is that that one divinity is wholly possessed by three divine persons.
So this is the third person, this is Patrick coffin, and all due respect to all of them. And since you know them very well, online, if they'd like to come on, we'd love to have just, you know, a nice dialogue with them. Maybe in the future, you could set that up. So, Doc Serbia, okay, so this was the last one, they all had their chance to speak and try to, you know, intervene here on 401. Regarding the Trinity, what do you think about this argument?
Knoxville, the person the nature, right? There are three persons within one Godhead. Jesus never said that. None of the prophets of the Old Testament ever defined God like that. See, God, the concept of God is the fundamental truth of any faith. That's the bedrock, there's the foundation of any faith, it has to be clearly defined. It cannot like it cannot be a mystery to all the prophets of God, they clearly precisely in a clear cut way they all mentioned, there is only one God. And he is the first he is the last. He said, you know, in the Old Testament, no less than 2000 places, like hundreds of places. God says that I am God worship me, not a single time Jesus said that I am God,
or worship me, right on top of it, you know, by the hour, you'll be so surprised to find out in the Gospel of john the forecast for chapter 17, verse number three, Jesus pointing to the heavens, he said, that this is life eternal, that you are the only true God and Jesus sent by God. So if there are there is a category of God, there is only one person in that category, and that is the Creator Himself.
Jesus, God finished that point and then we're gonna hear on here. Yeah, so so that's what I'm saying, right? Jesus himself, he mentioned that you are the only true God that excludes him and anyone else from being God. You know, I love God, I love Jesus I the whole insistence that I understand Jesus as the Word of God, the living word, I understand that with the creator of the universe, that heaven and earth and and the other dimension that allows for all that, I don't I just don't understand it, and I'd be lying if I did, and from my personal salvation comes from not lying. So if I go along with something, it's why I got kicked out of Hollywood because I wouldn't go along
with transgender children. I know that's why he Michael Jones got kicked out of a Catholic college because he wouldn't sign off on abortion, which is one of the reasons
JOHN is one of my favorite people, because that's huge. You know, and I'm sure a lot of people there said they understood the trilogy, the Trinity, but had no problem killing unborn baby. So I judge people based on, you know, their morality and how much there is, Vox dei says the good, the true and the beautiful. And right now I'm focused on making communities local supply chains as the world collapses, because of, you know, graft and disorder. And so if anyone wants to join bertanya times app, join that I'm going to pitch.
Alright, I want to I want to a couple things that Oren said he mentioned, obviously, believing loving Jesus, we love Jesus, you cannot it's a tenant of faith. And this is not no like magic, spell nothing. There are six articles of faith and to be a Muslim, and one of us is to believe in the messengers and Jesus being one of the five greatest messengers peace be upon him. So if you say that I don't believe in Jesus, this can land you a ticket to the Hellfire literally, if you deny Jesus in Islam, remember Islam means to submit your world to the Creator, the heavens and earth and a Muslim is one because we had caught up on these terms. And people think Muslim Arab in the desert, but a
Muslim is just simply summarize with with in one word, one who submits his or her world to God to the Creator, the heavens and earth. So when he says that, I believe he's the Word of God, what do you think when when he says that doc should be Oh, no, we believe that also? Yeah, well, yeah. So in the Quran, also, it mentions that Jesus is the Word of God, but Word of God is not like God Himself. Word of God is a command of God. You know, for that reason, the Quran says, you know, when people when they equate Jesus with God, and vice versa and says that God is the Father, because he did not have a father. God Himself gave gifts, an argument in the Quran in chapter number three, verse
number 59, God says, that the likeness of Jesus in the eyes of God is similar to the likeness of Adam.
He was made from dust and God say Be and he was created. So the Word of God is the command of God is not equal to God. So I think there's a Christian Brothers and sisters, they made a mistake, that when they say, you know what, when the Word became flesh, no, the word is separate the word is the command of the Creator, and by the command of God, Jesus and all of us in the whole creation was created. So that's an important point that we need to convey to them. Yeah, it's like and you get that when you're in a homestead like the old joke what came first the chicken or the egg? Yeah, God You know, like people always like what came first the chicken or the egg? It's like the chicken
Well, it came from an egg what were the outcome from a chicken? It came from an egg it can't it's like it has to come from the Creator. That's why I'm I agree with you on that because it's like you can't only God can create that spark you know, and there's no man rather you're doing the will of God or not that's ever made a tree or a fish. Right? You know, it's just isn't is impossible for a human being to do that. The human is capable of making the deceptions and the illusions and the spellcraft Oh, and I want to ask yourself, one of my Muslim friends
got me really flat seeds, because I guess it's the Qur'an that that's like the medicine for everything. And I want to since I have a doctor on here, that's also a Muslim. Like, what's that? Because it does work with a lot of stuff that that black cumin seeds.
What what's, what's that all about? Yes, yes. So in the Quran, it mentions in chapter 33, verse number 21, that we should follow Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, right. He's an example of his role model his life. So one of the statements that he made, he gave importance to the black seed, or he also gave gave important to other fruits and you know, some other items, but almost to the Yeah, especially to the black seed. So for that reason, the scholars and the, you know, the, the modern day, you know, the juries, what they have done is, you know, along with the other treatment, other medicine, other advice from the doctors, let's also try the prophetic wisdom that he has mentioned
in the statement, that taking the back seat, you know, eating it and mixing it in different ways and, you know, cooking it in different ways. So that's where it comes from. But here we're gonna get into another clip from Owen here enjoyed trainee spouse because I don't carry their ego some things can't be fully understood. Now, it's not because it can't be understood some magic trick is three card Monte. We should start calling it Trinity card Monte.
It's a way for sinful people to not have to dress their sin. They're just always saved no matter what they do. That's the whole point. That's why they love that's why they're so obsessed with it and I've been gade kept by everybody. You know, it's like we have an intervention.
And you really should be politically correct so we don't look like cowards. We're gonna have an intervention really soon. I'd say Christianity is all about the number three and not living the Bible.
You know, you're looking I'm looking at these like city dwelling, beardless, pale faced, much love no nonsense machines and they're like, oh, we're gonna tell you about it. trinitarians are read the Bible I read a million books about about it's exact exactly, dude. I was the only one mentioning the Bible. They're like, wow, you know, Jr. You know, Tolkien said I'm like,
and I don't even the The reason I play play disc club, here's what here's the takeaways I want to talk about real quickly salvation because he only made a brilliant point of people being able to get away, you know, from accountability of sins. He mentioned the beard. I don't know if you know, oh, and it's actually required in Islam to have a beard. You know, it's way for men to grow beards. So yeah, it's so so and then. Yeah, so go ahead don't actually be a beard. inox important that I gave this lecture one time. And the discussion topic was, who is following Jesus more? Or the or the Muslims following him or the Christians following him? So I made like five different points that
they're that we are the ones who are following Jesus. So the one that I gave is obviously the beard right? Because Jesus and all the prophets they had the beards. And if you love Jesus be like Jesus. So we are we have the beard because we want to be like him and all the prophets one right? Second, when we first in the month of Ramadan, we are also following the sooner the example of all the prophets including Jesus, Matthew five, verse number two, Matthew four, verse number two, Jesus used to fast the specific, you know, number of days, we are the ones for actually fasting that way, not just giving up one item or one thing that we like, total, absent is fasting, the way all the
prophets Jesus used to find that way. Number three is when we meet each other brother, what do we say? Do you know?
I'm awake? Aleikum? Yeah. Salaam Alaikum. Peace be upon you. Lo and behold, you'll be surprised to find out the book of john, the gospel of john chapter number 20, verse number 19. Jesus when he went to the upper chamber, he met his disciples, and the very first thing you mentioned to them was, peace be upon you. Number three, Jesus was circumcised all the prophets that were circumcised Muslim males we are circumcised. But the biggest thing that we are following about Jesus is he was an absolute monotheistic person. He never believed in Trinity. He never preached unity and monotheism was the main belief or the only foundational belief that he shared with his people. So if you look
at anyone in the whole world who is actually practicing and following Prophet Jesus, right mindedly we are the ones Muslims you know, I mean, if you can add more things, he never ate pork. In the Old Testament it forbids pork, Leviticus chapter 11 verse number three and onwards, Muslims we never ate pork we forbid pork right? The Quran also forbids eating pork. So we can give many many examples saying that he has Muslims are mine up following Jesus and all the prophets of not including the last one Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and pour into it's like a like when I've done stand up in the Middle East.
there's a there's a real opposition of pornography and and Matthew, Jesus said, basically, if you look at a woman and was he should still have your own eye out, which is, you know, pretty intense. And I think a lot of people have gotten way too laksa days ago with those those lustful tendencies. And I actually think it's the biggest plague on the west right now is pornography. I think it's like the Opium War of the 21st century where I think it's rewiring men's brains into being these like outside observers and very weak and very passive and almost a feminist and very permissive of like child abuse and all that stuff. And so that's another part that I think a lot of modern Christians
and I'm not saying all credit because a lot of Christians get it I know a lot of Christians that really do follow the Bible, but the modern popcorn Christian like the mega churches, the rainbow flag Christians, like, you know, those guys are not even close. like not even like Muslims are more Christian than them like by far not even a comparison that's why when they condemn muslims for being this like problem, I'm like, dude, they're actually living the Bible way more than you, you know, because the fundamentals are, you know, commandment one is so important and so is like, the discipline required to be in that frequency of not being like completely fallen in disgusting, you
know, to see like, like lesbian female preachers like, you're just like, dude, you're so far off like seeing priests and pride parades. And I'm like, it's a
Pride Parade. What's up next to wrath parade? You know, and I think unfortunately, that may be coming at some point. I'm like, You're not supposed to be identified by your sins. That means you can't. We all sin, and we all have problems, but it's like to be identified by that. It means you've already taken the ticket. But they just keep saying, like, I've accepted Jesus Christ, I'm saved. And I'm like, No, he didn't like if you he didn't know, say that you could just live any way you want. You don't just say magic words. In fact, I bet
in modern day, if they met Jesus, they probably hate them or not want to be around him or wanting to get kicked off Twitter to get out? Yeah. You know, when you when you speak about Initially, I think maybe 20 minutes ago, Jesus was praying, right? And who was he praying to? A question which I always ask to my Christian friends is, suppose if you see Jesus praying, would you pray to him? Or would you stand next to him to pray to the same creator that he's praying to? It's a pray waterfall. Just pray to pray to pray to God? Just Yeah. Direct worship, right? So in Islam, there is no mediator, because God Allah is all knowing his all hearing, why do we need to go through many, many channels,
when we can approach him directly, we have direct access to him, pray to Him as from him get the My Mercy and the best things from him.
Go man, I wanted to, before we get into this next clip, I want to get your reaction to it. Oh, and are there any questions that you have about Islam, I've just been really into the history of it lately, like I
like about, like, what happened in the 14th century with the fall of the Islamic empire and how that happened? Like how, you know, there's some some quotes that my friend was telling me about how the horse archers came out of China, or Mongolia, whatever. And they've gotten so wealthy that they didn't have an army or whatever. And I just like want to know, like, what's the
what's the the history in your communities and in your circles of what happened in Baghdad in those areas in the 14th century? Because like, you know, especially what's happening right now in America, I'm always curious of what the forces are
in Empire and in conquest and all that stuff and and Islamic empire is so fascinating. And so under taught in western schools that any information about that would be awesome. You know, there is a good history book that I can refer to you. Maybe I can send it to Eddie the name of it, and maybe you can purchase and you can inshallah, God willing you can get access to it. It is written by a good friend of mine, a local Imam in Chicago, half his applause. Brother Eddie, I will send the link, so you can pass it.
You know, one important topic, then by the end you can take over is the word Christian, you know, they were repeating it, you are repeating it, it's important for me and you to know historically, Jesus never said that, you know, my followers are Christians, he never said that you are now named as Christians. In fact, in all of the four gospels, the word Christian does not occur at all. Who do you think brother? Oh, one who coined the word Christian, for the Christians, probably the Romans.
I think you're right, because what happened was, all the words of Christ, they were going to this idol worshippers, they were going to the city of Antioch, to preach the oneness of God. Over there, the idol worshipers, they look from inside the city, the followers of Christ are coming and they said, the idol worshipers, here comes the Christians. So they were the ones who coined the word Christians to the followers of Christ, not God, not Jesus, not even Paul, none of the disciples, but the idol worshipers. And and you can look this up. This is in the book of Acts, the fifth book, Chapter 11, verse number 26. On top of it, the word Christianity does not occur anywhere in the
whole Bible. The word Judaism does not occur in the whole Bible. The word Trinity does not occur in the whole Bible. The word Bible does not occur anywhere in the Bible.
The other spells Yeah, you know, like my dad's a rhetoric professor. So I came from a young age I knew about how spellcraft works and and sometimes I I catch some of these and I'm like, dude, I'm starting to think that the devil is like, kind of like a really really sick comedian where he's always trying to to humiliate man with like weird titles and like tricks where it's like, banks that don't save money hospitals that don't heal schools that tell lies like, there's this weird inversion irony where and I kind of had that that idea already that Christian was given by the Romans is almost like a mockery. What I that stuff doesn't bother me too much because it's been 1700 years or
whatever. And it's just like, it's just more my cultural heritage and like, what I you know, it I don't know, I can't explain it, but I do know that you're right.
Why I assume you're right about that. Because, yeah, I've done a lot of deep dives into the Bible with certain words. And there was no Bible Jesus didn't even write it that like he, there was no Bible, no Trinity. No word Christian, there were called holy. People were followed Jesus were more called holy. And I think that comes from the word whole, like total. Yeah, they're called the people of the way. People have the path. That's, that's awesome. That's awesome. They used to submit to God and anyone who submits only to the one creator, and do the guidance and fulfills the guidance that Allah God has given. That term that we give that person is a submitter to the Creator. In Arabic,
that person is called as a Muslim.
So for that reason, we say Jesus was a Muslim, because he used to submit to the Creator, his followers were Muslims, initial followers, obviously, all the prophets were Muslims. So the fate of Islam is, you may be thinking, whether that is a seventh century fate founded by Muhammad peace be upon him. That's not the case, though. Islam as a guidance was given to the very first human Adam, and all the prophets that were given that same faith of Islam, that means only submit to the one creator, follow His guidance, and God by His mercy will put you into paradise. So what happened was, it's an eternal thing, I get it, it's like, because the truth is fractal on everything in the world.
That's why it's like, you don't need as a Patrick coffin was saying, which I disagree with that intervention. Um, you don't need an outside authority. When he said it required the trainee required an outside authority outside interpreter, a middleman. You know, it's like, the middleman, the merchant, you know, it's like, I get it, the debt guy, it's like, you don't need that. It's like, you can see the truth in it in your life every day. Like every commandment, every element of it is, is real all around you all the time and has always been here. Like the truth. One of the reasons people say I'm a time traveler, I'm not, by the way, is because the truth never changes. So it
appears I keep seeing stuff coming, you know, in my live streams. And it's because the truth doesn't change. You know, the spells change, the snake eats itself, all that nonsense all around you. But like, the truth is all is static, it's still it's loving, you know, it's, it's like, and that's why I love how you guys describe on God is like being very forgiving, and very, you know, like, all powerful and without limits, and very merciful because, you know, the fact that I have three beautiful children and a wife and a farm and all this stuff, given what my life has been, like, I feel like God has given me tremendous mercy. And I'm very happy for that. I think a lot of people
Muslim, or Christian, or whatever people want to call themselves, it's like, gratitude is so important. Here's another thing I like about a lot of Muslim videos is you guys seem to be able to identify the false virtue guy in the mosque really well, because I think Mohammed peace be upon him. really hated that. Now, I'm not gonna use the word Hey, but really didn't like the guys that, uh, that like, pretended, you know, they wanted virtue from their public like their virtue in their deeds, but no real heart in it, you know. And I think that is a struggle that is eternal as well. And it can infest any community where, like, you're not doing it for the love of God, you're doing
it for the lollipops and fancy pants is what we like to call it. And, and, you know, I'm just, I think gratitude and love and truth is so important and discipline. And it's really awesome that you gave up being a doctor to, to spread Islam, because that's, that's cool, man. That's like, really, I know, that can be really hard for people to give up on worldly status. And, uh, you know, the pit in the pedestal is very real
technique to keep people in bondage. And it's really cool. You did that? Yeah. I mean, you know, we only have one life to live. Once we are on interfacing the creator on the Day of Judgment, and he's asking us, how did you live your life, I don't have a chance again, to come back to this world and do the things that I want to do to please Him. This is the only life just do the best, you know, learn the scriptures, the Koran, the final scripture, you know, be like Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and all the wonderful prophets help out humanity on the one life to live. So for him,
like your wife's gotten better, though, like, like, like, what when you really submit and he really started doing what's right and not just for live like, Don't you feel better now? I feel a lot better than before. Yes, yes. You have content. Now we know. Yes. Now we are more hopeful. Now we are away from any depression, you know, any medicine. I mean, I don't take medicine but you don't need any medicine at all. Now your God is the one who is going to be there for you. Right. So the ultimate trust the piece of content is just priceless. We'll get this reaction we got about 10 minutes left we'll get a quick reaction from only we'll listen to
To this, I just want you to see just listen. And then oh and just tell me it's not a spell All right, I just want you to listen and see yeah yeah, so just listen and see you know at the end like your reaction to it and then we'll get into the final clip about some farming farming and we'll close it close it off. And then what I wanted to add to what you guys were saying before before I play this next clip is what came to my mind is how simple and profound it is that you know if someone is sincerely seeking the pleasure of their Creator to be guided you know it's not convoluted like the devil tries to make it out to be it just someone within themselves asking say the one who
created me guide me guide me guide me you know just praying to the creator the most loving the Most Merciful and saying guide me what way do you want me there's so much out there which is the correct way guide me that's it how many people actually ask for guidance directly to the crater that has an earth so that's I think the formula and be grateful grateful and thankful. Yes. The reaction to this isn't
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says in the Quran, he will forgive all the sense in except one scene if a person dies with their, the sin of associating partners with God, saying that this person is God or that idol is God or this or this part of the creation is God. But generally any other sin, Allah God can forgive. So our reality is that God has given us guidance and by obeying the guidance, inshallah God Willing by His mercy, we will go to Paradise. So there is the grand reality. And there is a message that God has sent to all the prophets and the messengers. So we can always discuss so many topics about Trinity, the concept of God right the scriptures away for salvation. At the end of the day, me, you, every
single one of us, we have to face the Creator. You know, just like when we went to schools and colleges, there is a assessment at the end of the semester by the teacher, based upon all the things that we have done that semester. So the final grade of ours as humans, as individuals would be given to us on the Day of Judgment. So ultimately, there would be two options of the right or the two on the two places that God can put us either in Paradise, we hope and pray all of us, or Hellfire, and we seek a loss God's God, God's protection against it. So So according to the Islamic theology to go to Paradise would be we don't worship anyone else besides one God. We believe in
All the prophets and the messengers and all the scriptures given before the Quran came. And now the final scripture because the previous scriptures, the Old Testament, the New Testament, they were all have been edited and revised and altered. We don't have them in the pure way that they were given to the previous prophets. And then we believe in the angels and in the Divine Decree, and on the Day of Judgment.
So once a person believes in this grand reality, and do the deeds that God wants us to do, that's the way for salvation. According to Islam, you are saying something? Oh, yeah, is there a periods of Hellfire you guys believe that that you might have to burn for a little while, and then you can get out.
So generally, both Hellfire and paradise, they're forever, like paradise forever, for sure, right? believers who sins are not forgiven, they would be purified in the Hellfire for whatever length of time, and then they would be taken out. But those individuals, for example, despite knowing the truth, they keep on associating partners keep on believing and worshipping a creation along with God or instead of God, you know, according to the Quran, it will be there for a long time.
Yeah, yeah. Because that's, that's, that's how that's what my instincts tell me is like, is I think that there's like fractal realities of that while you're alive. Like, the more you go against God, it may appear that you're doing well, but you're not allowed to feel joy and like, you start like burning almost where it's like, does that make sense? There's almost like a correction, where it's like, you got to get back on the path. And if you refuse, and if you're stubborn, and if you don't accept that burning, like in this even while you're alive, and I'm sure after, it's like, way crazier, but like, that's kind of like what my instincts, they were like, you know, there's there's
correction mechanisms where if somebody sees sees it, they can be purged of sin versus just like, maybe there's some people that are just, you know, going to burn forever, I just sound so horrifying.
You know, for that reason, we say that this life is a testing ground. Yeah.
clear guidance. He gave us clear guidance. And he has also showed us, you know, what is the error that we should be staying away from? So on the Day of Judgment, we cannot blame Satan, you know, shaitan, right. shaitan is going to say, on the day of judgment, I just told you to do this. You are the one who actually did it you miss you know, anyone I'm saying, You are the one who actually did it. So he's going to, you know, walk away. We cannot, you know, hold him and say, You know what, God, He is the one who took us here? No, ultimately, we are the ones God gave us the ability, the thinking the conscious that we should be the one making the right decisions. And not they want
anyone else. Yeah, it's true, man. It's like that when you're getting alone, you know, it's like when they repossess your house, you can say, I didn't know. But they're like, you read the contract, I gave you a contract that said, adjustable rate mortgage, like you agreed. And that's why I think a lot of the people on this earth are doing the bidding of shaitan. get away with it, because they require you to know and to contract with them, and then they get to walk away. And I think that happens as well, with judgment where it's like you can ever say the devil made you do it, you know? Exactly, exactly. You know, many of my So, so far we have about 5000 plus people on behalf of the
organization that I'm director of, they have their own choice, you know, majority of them they are from the Christian background. Once they started to read the Quran, they found the answers in the Quran to the questions they had all throughout their lives. You know, who is the creator is a one in one or is a one in three, they found the answer in the Quran with clarity about who Jesus is, you know, Jesus is the Son of God, he is also God and God came down God died, who's going to run the universe, this confusion around gives a clear cut and said that satisfies here in here. What guidance to follow, we all need to follow some guidance. When we went to school when we drive on the
road, right when we go to any work, there is some do's and don'ts we are supposed to follow. So what kind of guidance that God has given us to follow both individuals and his family and his humanity. So in the Quran, it's a comprehensive guidance. So again over there, the person gets you know, connected with it. And lastly, how to go to Paradise. Is it somebody dying for us? Is it reincarnation after reincarnation, the cycle goes on and on? Or is it personal accountability that you drive over the limit? You get the ticket, not you or not anyone else?
Right, so all of these four important concepts, brother Oh, and they appeal to these individuals. So that is the reason Islam is the fastest growing faith in the USA and actually around the world. So my sincere hope and you know, my encouragement to you is, in a way the Quran. I'm not sure
If you have a copy of the put on deal, I have one I've read about. It's the one I have is really a really intense it has like footnotes of every line and like, so it was a little heavy, but my friend said he might, he has a simpler version. Um, yeah, so I'll check it out. But he sends me a, like memes and cool videos and stuff all the time. So I'm really glad you guys exist, man, I think you guys are
really cool people end up. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry, you're finishing? Oh, no, I just it's just really cool. Because that's what I don't understand about it. I guess I do understand, but some people don't want to let go. hatred that they know is fake now. Because I'm considered a truth or you know, where it's like, I like to get to the bottom of stuff even if it costs me you know, social status but and like so we get to the bottom and I know I'm not who did it that's too hard to do. But like building seven fall I you know, I don't want to get your YouTube channel flag grinding. So well, you We all know that there's nonsense, but yet people will still hold on to the hate to
justify Empire wars. And I'm like, why won't you let that go now? Like, we're past that. How do you not now know that there's no Muslim burial 80 miles off the coast of like, on a ship like looking back. We were so tricked. Like they said Osama bin Laden had a Muslim burial and anonymous 80 miles off the coast. They dropped them off a boat. And like all the right wingers we're all up in arms. Like how dare Obama give them a Muslim burial? And, and the other people like he deserves a Muslim very, I'm like, how is that a Muslim burial? Like, is that a Muslim burial? Guys? Do you get dropped off a ship 80 miles off the coast? Like I think that sounds. And so what I hope for the future is
that people once people see that someone isn't your enemy, or that a lot of people like the way Muslims live, I think is really beautiful. I think that, um, that submission to God, that that's what that means. That's awesome. That it's like you don't like that you don't like pornography, follow the prophets. You follow God, I think that's just so great, man. It's like, um, I think I really hope that more people see that. And they don't hold on to that because it only hurt them in the long run, where they they're holding on to like, lies because it'll justify their sin. Like, I'm tight with a lot of Special Forces guys and stuff like that. And a lot of them the only way they got
through the wars, is admitting that they were guarding a poppy field like admitted, like we weren't there avenging New York City. You know, it's been 20 years. And once they admit that, and the truth sets them free, then they're good again. And that's how I believe that God is merciful because like people have done some crazy stuff. Under the spells myself included, I'm sure I'm under a spell right now that I'm not aware of. But like to admit it, when you see it is so important. And that's why I'm really glad that we're all friends. And then we can have these conversations because like, I'm not going to pretend something is something that isn't, you know, and I hope more people see
that about Islam and how, how close it is to the Christian Bible and how it isn't. You know, it's the Christian dogma that got so crazy, specifically Rome, in my opinion. And it's like I just told people really focus on the upcoming problems we have, which are all familial. You know, it's all about keeping that family together. One thing I love about Islam is that you guys talk about how
it's like a if, if a little demon gets a husband and wife to fight, he gets to sit on like Satan's lap or something. Is that like, in a heartbeat? Or some? Yeah, so that's what shaitan You know, he wants to split the communities. He was the speaker families, right? Yeah.
Yes, he got. And so you guys are so family oriented, that I love that because that shaitan wants the mom and dad to split, they want the communities to split, they want the wells to go dry. No more cow. Like not none of this. Satan does not like that. Satan is not like, like, I can supply milk for five families and that like me and my friends can all get together and do our own thing said, Satan. What was the atomization so I did what you guys are doing I'm glad we had this conversation. That's interesting. You brought up this authentic idea. Because this idea illustrates the importance of family like how the Devil You Know the Shakedown This is the chief a billy you know the chief
deceiver a believes that the head devil and then you have all the the other satanic forces. So he's sitting and he's calling them and he's saying, Okay, what did you do today? For instance, this one said, I had this one commit fornication. Okay, yeah. And then he said, this one, what did you do? I had this one steal, okay, these are evil things are evil, right? But he's like, okay, no big deal, right. Okay. Then he says, What did you do? I split a husband from his wife. He said, Our poor come over here, come to me here. He puts he put the crown on his head because what happens if you bring
Like the home you break the society right all these other things are evil, but that's the key ones so that's what's important in Islam is to hold the family unity because you hold the family unity that's what makes us society right let me get into this last one you have a you have someone who really likes who follows you he's from Bosnia so you even your your work is reaching all the way to Bosnia. Oh and and I think I just give you a quick summary. You had the backward my roots back in Bosnia. I was born in the United States, but my family comes from Bosnia, this is in the heart of Europe. And a quick summary you had Unitarian Christians there. You know who when Islam came these
are Unitarian Christians who didn't believe in a trinity you know similar to you and many others they would not they would pray outside they would pray like Jesus prayed to the creator the heavens and earth and when submission to the will of the Creator came to Islam. Well that's what it means to submit your will to God. They were the largest concentrated group of people who accepted Islam all at once. So this is in a heart they're in bars in euro Bosnia. So we're here at the farm and if you ever I think I mentioned this to you before, on hand would love to host you so this is me there you can kind of give you just a little bit of what you would you would see and where you'd stay
is the milking station here? miracle.
Man, wow, a
lot of milk because
the almighty set it up where they start, what happens we start to grow, eat more and grow more specific hair
look these thing. These are the females. And look at the male here. What do you see if you could strike the difference?
Is your favorite going so this is the male hmm
Look, he's got a beard. He's got a beard.
That's awesome. Wow, we that place. Beautiful.
roseberry made from organic. These are all juices just 100% Nice. pear juice. pear juice, honey also.
This is not alcohol. These are all juices made from
corn here are more GMO. This is beautiful. So this is as live in the United States.
In the United States, corn is 80% or more GMO.
Non GMO corn is the real corn here so you'd be eating organic real purely organic.
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and then we get you some a horse riding
around there's one for my side six eight, man. I'm a giant. We got the big horses too. So this is where I'm sure Oregon would love to host you there.
Next tour if I come through I'm definitely coming. So if you're ever in Europe or at home, get to see this and I'll hook you up he'd love to have you there in in Bosnia and Sarajevo to get you out to get you to the farm. All right, closing comments doc severe. Oh, and we're coming to a close here.
Last Man, No, go ahead. Okay. No, no, I mean, I want to really appreciate you know, the sincerity that you have being brought up in the culture here with so much pressure to retain, you know, what you have been given? It just me it just makes a person you know, with that my sincerity, to look out and to question and to seek for the truth. So I really, you know, really appreciate what you're saying what you're doing. You know, if people don't know, your background, just looking at three of us. They will say you know what these three Muslim guys are on the show.
They will take you as a Muslim based upon the competence that you have, you know, the concept of God that you're saying, and all the wonderful things. So I would really suggest to your brother that, you know, read the Koran. Read it again, ask questions me and Eddie
We are always here to help you and inshallah God willing, you will find that it will give you peace and content, and it will connect with the bigger reality. That means there is only one creator, knowing him following him, knowing his guidance, following the guidance and praying to God for giving us the content, the peace, the solutions in this life. So I think there is a bigger reality that, you know, I would really hope and pray that you will do more research. And I pray to god it may god guide you may God bless you and your family. So you and your family, you can get eternal paradise and all of us. I mean, us well, my friend, that's beautiful man. And I just like to also
tell your audience that
my comedy is there's vulgarity in it. And so but it's in a world of vulgarity, and so it's not for kids. So if anybody wants to look me up and check it out, it isn't evil, though. It isn't bad. It's like it's a language. That is part of the culture I was trying to dismantle like, the really sick culture that's kind of developed in the West, sometimes you have to have the, the language of that which You're mocking. So I just wanted to give a disclaimer for that, because you can check out my specials at unauthorized that TV or Amazon Prime or Comedy Central or any of that stuff, and, but for the family for the that that beautiful bazian family I just saw, we have developed a more of a
solutions oriented thing, like more of a
the bertanya times app, it's completely clean, it's like a five year old can scroll through and it's all solutions based, it's not about complaining. It's about like growing, starting families, you know, connecting homesteads. And because I'm not in the complaint business these days, it's like enough people are seeing the system and how it's victimizing a lot of people and so me and some friends figured out a way to help each other connect and to and to grow. So I just want to let your audience know that that when they check out my comedy, the adults will get it. But there is vulgarity to it. And I don't respect that I'm being very obviously non vulgar in this conversation
but so just just watch out for that but at the same time, you'll see the points I'm making and how it isn't. I'm never encouraging the sin it's I'm mocking the sin but it's it's like I'm doing it in a way that that people listen to thank you on really nice heavy on the program. Again, if you're also in Chicago or by Indiana sometime Northwest, hit me up and hopefully we can all meet up in person someday. I will be great. And if you're ever night, you're always welcome. God bless you. Thank you.
Anyone else would like to get a free copy and also my organization what we do is we mail out free copies of the from anywhere in the USA, for people to read it and educate themselves do away with the misconceptions and inshallah hopefully find guidance. They can go to the website gain peace, calm. And yeah. So anyone yourself, your family, your friends, they can get a free copy of the Muslim community. Thank you. Oh, God bless you all. Thank you. Thank you,