08 – Tiqiyyah
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with Urbina homea son.
It has been quite a journey that has brought us to the point where we are now.
If we look back, I think we've got something like 1012 hours straight
of lecturing, questions and answers
that have been taking place over the past few weeks.
The purpose behind it all was
in order for us to have a better understanding of a phenomenon, which confronts us, and therefore concerns each one of us.
She ism was a phenomenon,
foreign to the society, it entered it. It came into our society, we need to know it. And we need to know it on our terms.
Therefore, we've gone through all the various topics that we've covered. And it has been uncomfortable for some, it has been a bit of trampling upon certain very sensitive toes. But we make no excuses for that.
Because it is not only our duty to know but it is our right to know about this as well.
Tonight, eventually we come
something that we touched upon before sensitive issue. Again, there are going to be those that will not be happy with what will be said.
But if there are questions, they will be welcome.
And to whatever extent we are able to we will respond to it.
The topic that we are going to deal with tonight is the topic of tequila.
No one who deals with the issue of the shayol can afford to be ignorant of or turn a blind eye to or adopt an ostrich, ostrich attitude. When it comes to the issue of Takia.
To know what we have to deal with, you need to know what is stuck here. Where does it come from? Why is it used? And how is it employed? And eventually what are the effects of nakiya on this oma of ours as it stands today. It's past its presence as well as its future.
Therefore, without any further ado, we're gonna go straight into the topic what is stuck here, a word that goes about.
But what does it actually mean?
Now dakka dakka. All of these things come from the same root in Arabic language. And it means to do something to protect yourself from harm, to do something whereby you protect yourself from harm. When we speak about taqwa it means to do certain things whereby you protect yourself against that harm, which is jahannam. What do you do you do what Allah has ordered you to do, and you stay away from what Allah has ordered you to stay away. And that is how you avoid that harming the archaea eventually, this comes from the same root it also means to protect yourself from harm. But in which way, the fancy term for it is this simulation, the simulation, big word, it means a simple thing. It
means speaking one thing in your heart having another
that's my simple definition. But for the sake of objectivity we will take the definition not from any Sunni scholar, neither from myself nor from anyone else. We're going to take it from the cream of the scholarship of the Shia. I refer now to the definition of a shameful movie, a shameful movie Muhammad in Norman and Akbari, he was one of the leading scholars of the shiai in the fifth century. His books are still being published today many of them have been translated into English as well. So from Him we will take the definition of what the key is all about. He says, the key is kit man all Huck was said truly at a coffee. Walk it man on Mohali Fie in water komova harati him Bhima your
people that are unfit Dini are with dunya.
The first part of the definition says Keith man will hack to hide
person has a certain belief he doesn't state it. He said something else he hides the truth was truly it Gadaffi and hide the fact that you actually do believe in that thing. For example, you believe that there are 12
infallible imams. You believe, for example, that the Quran has been interpolated or that Abu Bakr and Omar were guilty of Cofer or that I shall the Allah Azza wa Bharara hola homie makalah was guilty of Zina or anything of that nature. You believe that with your heart, but you say something else with your tongue. What What is it manual Mohali Finn, and you hide this away from your opponent?
What are komova harati him
and you abstain from clearly, directly and explicitly stating this to your opponent.
You abstain from clearly and explicitly stating to your opponent any such thing Bheema your people bought on Fifth Dini, Jr, anything that might bring harm to you, whether it pertains to this dunya whether it pertains to the in anything that might, on account of which harm might accrue to you or how might befall you, you stay away from that. This is the definition of nakiya as given by the scholars of the Shia, hide the truth, hide the fact that you will believe it, hide that from your opponents and do not stay to them clearly what you believe if that thing is of such a nature that it can cause harm to you.
That's the definition of duck iya
this particular thing called duck iya where does it originate from if you ask us that unloosen Aveda stocky originated from we're gonna give you a certain amount of reasons which we're going to get into after this, you're going to ask the Shia they tell you that the PR originates out of the Quran, it is in the Quran, way in the Quran is it
we have seen once before that the Shia, I have two kind of approaches when it comes to the Quran. The one is they take an idea
that seems to have a certain meaning. And in line with that meaning attached to certain types of tweet a certain interpretation which is not too far fetched,
but doesn't quite fit the picture. That's the one kind of approach. The other approach we have seen. Take an idea that doesn't even pertain to this matter at all. And by hook or by crook, you force it through some kind of adventurous interpretation, you force it into making reference to the point which you want to discuss. So in this regard, there are three if we just hear us when they speak about tequila. Two of those is a fairly simple and straightforward interpretations. We will look at how correct they are. But they are fairly simple and straightforward. And the third one is one of those extraneous interpretations where the context is one thing and what is being sought to be saved
by do something completely different. Let's first go for simple straightforward I add
in i a number 28 of Surah Al Imran a lot Allah says la mina Anelka Irina only
mean do need meaning. Why my father Rekha Fela is Amina Allah He Vichy in
comin home to call while you have zero como la Hoon nafsa. In this ayah Allah Allah speaks in this IRA's Illa n taco min Han Toka. You can see the literal root of taqwa and Tati and everything is to be found in there but let's look at the first lie attack reveal me known Allah kaffee Rena Alia there are three important words he me known. I don't think anyone requires a translation caffine in and then Olia only is something which you have seen before many of us have a certain understanding of alia the friends of Allah tala, those are the only Allah This is something else. A movement shall not take as his friend and supporter and partisan anyone but a movement. Why? Because I mean want to
bottom only Muslims are the friends and supporters of one another. So this idea tells us believers shall not take non believers or unbelievers as they are earlier as their friends as they close confidence. Why am I here follow?
Me no, no caffeine only I'm Indonesian meaning. Believers shall not take unbelievers as the Olia instead of believers in those believers can only take believers as the earlier one if and
if a believer if a person with a man
takes an unbeliever person who has no emotion in his heart, and he takes him as his Wali, and as his friend and he
confidant and supporter.
Falaise, Amina Allah heafy Shea, Allah has nothing to do with that person.
Allah will have nothing to do with a person like that. But we know that life tends to throw up all kinds of circumstances, we do not live in a state which is ours. We do not live in a country which is ruled by the law of Islam. So what happens you find yourself in a situation Muslim living side by side with non Muslim in a country ruled by non Muslims. So what do you do in a case like that, in an dako Minh home tokar except if you create that relationship establish a relationship of hula with some caffeine, in order to prevent harm from befalling you as the exception to the rule, the rule is no wilaya between movement and caffeine. But if there is a need to establish a relationship of
wilaya on account of what why is that need there? Because you do not want harm to befall the Muslim, then that's an exception to the rule that's permitted.
Why if alcohol is I mean I live in that home in Hong Kong. That's the one
Why is it is that I are relevant in this regard or not? Now you must understand when the CIA speaks of the PA What is it? The pa by and large, she is going to practice with the listener that she is 10% of the Muslim world that Allah Sana they are 90% they find themselves a small little island of the show you're in an ocean of Allah so novalja Ma, N, as we have tried to illustrate
over the past few lessons. The issues which separate the Shia from the other Sunnah are issues, extremely and deeply emotional ones. We have felt the outrage when we heard the kind of things that were said about the Sahaba viola, on whom we found that outrage in our heart when we heard what was said about the Quran and the hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. So the issues which separate the Shia and the Sunni, are emotional to the extreme, extremely sensitive issues. Therefore, the Shia always find the need to protect themselves by not stating these issues clearly to the solution.
But what am I talking about? The iasb talks about movement and Garfield. What does she do when they practice tequila is between Sunni and Shia. So does an idea that pertains to the kuffar does that I are taking that idea out of that context and bring it in this particular context. What does he tell us? Does he actually mean that the care God as the listener so far, therefore they say the idea can apply to us they forget they can make that clear with us. A lot is permitted. taqiyya when
when it's a matter between movement and Kafeel, Leia tefilin manana alkaff Irina earlier I mean donated meaning that she says I can make the clear with a Sunni because the Quran says it our responses the Quran speaks about Muslim and Garvey of movement and Garfield. Unless you are prepared to say that I'm at Garfield, I cannot see how this particular deli in this particular area can work for you in that context.
if we don't look at it is just out of context like that. If we take the eye and read a bit further on, the context is always very, very important. The context is very important as we've seen before, take this eye and go on to the next aisle it comes off the allow tala calls draws our attention to something the need for truthfulness under all circumstances. Yes, when life depends upon it, when you can speak a word of cover, if your life depends upon it, but if only some secondary kind of interest depends upon it. You want to deceive a Sunni person to become a ga and therefore you resort to the Kriya that is not as important as life the permission given in that ayah doesn't stretch up
to there for the next aisle Nautilus is called in tofu former VSO duty come out to Purdue yeah lamola
wherever you are, hide that away which is in your heart or you make it open Allah knows what it is.
We are level Murphy somehow it
not only does Allah know what's in your heart and on your tongue, Allah knows each and every Iota what's happening in heaven and earth, Allah who be cliche in alim
and as much as you might want to deceive upon the face of this world. Yo Mataji Dooku Luna Seema millet Minh Hiram Bala wama, Amina minzu, you might be able to deceive, you might be able to pull wool over someone's eyes in this dunya but a day will come when every soul will find in front of it what he did of God, and of bed, standing in front of him.
Your doula and by na by inaho I'm Adam barreda. And those deceivers on that day, when they find the deception standing in front of them, they will wish that there was a great
distance between them and those these that are standing in front of them while you have zero como Allahu nafsa. Allah warns you against himself against his wrath against his punishment. So do not take it lightly. Do not take this idea illa Anta comin home Taka and apply it to something to which it doesn't apply, because they will come when you will find it standing in front of you. This idea doesn't apply in this context at all. We move to the second idea. The second idea is either number 107. From Sula to number in that is one second a lot of that speaks men cafaro Billa human body he man he Imani ilam and aqui Hua Calvo mohtarma in whom he
will act in shahabi will call for you sada wrong for him all Babu Mina Allah
the IEA once again is about Cooper and Eamon Mancha. Farah Billa. Anyone who commits Cofer was allowed Allah this belief with respect to Allah tala mimbar. The man he after having been a movement, in other words, what what are we speaking about here?
He was a movement and then he turned back on his heels and became a malted. What does a lot of us say about him?
Before a lot of us speaks about him he says one exception you will find cases where Muslims will be forced to speak words of cover where gun will be put to your head and say say Jesus is God or I pull the trigger. under circumstances like that. What is a Muslim supposed to do?
A Muslim is now given permission by Allah tala ill man aka wacol boo mohtarma. In normal Eman. This ruling doesn't apply to the person who's being forced. But he his heart is still content upon her. He did not abandon half his speaking those words in order to save his life. Half of Mahajan writes quoting ignoble GPA commentators zaharie says that a Muslim is permitted under such circumstances of coercion or force to speak words of for years. But there is a geomar of the entire oma that even under such circumstances, if a Muslim sticks to the heart, and he says, I will never speak a word of gopher even if you pull the trigger that is better for him.
Under no circumstances do we compromise when we compromise the speaking of the words of Huck, then it's only the speaking of the words of how and only because the knife is at your throat, or the gun is a temple otherwise is not permitted. Look at the context again. Is this a matter of a person hiding certain things away? Because he's afraid that what are people going to think of me No, this kind of thing is permitted only under the diarist of circumstances only for the most severe of needs when and then alone You're allowed to speak a word of over and under any other circumstances you are not allowed to do it. So once again both of these ayat refer to circumstances where discover and
Eman and extreme duress brought to bear upon you we are being forced to say so none of these two I refer to the, to the Shia as we will see inshallah and the rest of our lecture. Now we come to the third idea, and the third is one of those interesting arguments.
Towards the end of Surah tolka Allah Allah makes mention ways I don't know kangaroo carnitine
one of the questions that they will ask you is about al carnitine. And the story goes on about all carnitine It's a long story so time doesn't allow us to just quickly cut to the chase towards the end of the story, though carnitine comes to a place where people are complaining all the other Korean in Georgia, Georgia musi do not feel odd. They complain too. They'll complain so yeah, Georgia modules they create mischief and they giving us a lot of trouble here. So build us a wall that will keep them out.
So little commencez fine. There are two mountains, they form a valley on the slope of those mountains are Tunis, Omar al Hadid, bring to me blocks of iron metal blocks. And on top of that metal blocks bring me molten lead.
Offering early heater attorneys Omar al Hadid had died as our baneasa fine when he had filled up the space between the two mountains loves Carl and veho and then he told them to blow the bellows In other words, light the fire make the fire very hot in order to melt down the the lead. Once the ladies melted down the ladies poured over the metal blocks and that wall becomes an impenetrable wall
hodeida Jalla Hunan Kala Tony ofri Holly fetullah famous star o al Haru who was stopbar hula Hoon acaba. Thereafter, Georgian Jews were not able to scale it to climb over it, and they were not able to penetrate it. That simple. The story was simple, straightforward. Now we go for deeper hermeneutics deeper interpretation that she has is no you did not understand from a star or Yahuwah mustapa Ola Hanako
They couldn't penetrate it. Why couldn't they penetrate it because this was a time in which the PA was supposed to be done for as long as the PA is is to be done, you cannot penetrate the veil of secrecy that is stuck here. And when the time comes,
what's the next idea?
From a slower yellow Mr. Paulo nakaba Allah, Allah Ramadan navabi. For Elijah, Allah Do not be when the promise of Allah comes at the end of time, when it won't be broken down and the Jews and Jews comes out the Shia See, that's not what it means. If the time comes a promise of Allah that is the raising of the PME in Salem, Virginia Takia mockney you don't need to make it any longer. When that promise comes jala who dukkah then that entire wall will be made into dust you don't need to make it any longer. This is similar to those other ideas we have seen. If it tells us anything it tells us of the bankruptcy on the on the part of those people who couldn't find anything relevant in the
Quran about the PA and therefore they have to resort to either of this nature here. Aside from these three, if there is no mention whatsoever. In fact, these three I do not speak about the kind of stuff here that the Shia have. So what is that the year of this year, then?
Several things can be said about the Takia this year.
We've also now well geomar we subscribe to the fact that there is something called Takia and the diarist of circumstances when it's between email and Cofer. We say however, that taking tequila
is like, there are two things in Sharia.
The one thing is called an azima. The other thing is called the rasa and azima to make it very simple when you are traveling, then you've got the choice you're making the whole Salah, you can either make photocopies or you can make to record to record special license for Mousavi, that's a Rossa special license azima. To do the original thing you can make for archives as well, you can make two records as well. There's another hub of Yamcha, Abu hanifa smarthub. So you have to make two that's aside from the point though, so you felt you're traveling you can either fast, or you can decide not to fast. By fasting, you are practicing the original rule that's zema by not fasting,
that's a rockstar special license to ask that Hello. So now the key is are you Rosa, it is a special license given to you under specific circumstances. When those circumstances don't exist any longer. That license doesn't have any authority.
This is how we approach it to the Shiite is the other way around. It is the other way around. The clear is not for them an exception, it is the rule. It is not the dosa, it is the azima What right have we to say this? When you look at the manner in which they regard
tequila, you will come to realize the truth of what I say there is a book it's called Alia Deckard Cain who called by Assad. Okay, Ben Bobby, I mentioned the name of the author as well as the name of the book for a reason. There's another issue related issue. That is the issue of tahari full Quran the belief that the Quran has been changed when we tell the Shia that the she I believe that the Quran had been trying to say how can you say so? say well it's in your books I say yeah, the God of zadok even Baba we really face it says the Quran has not been changed. In other words, when it suits them this book is reliable. So let's come to the chapter of nakiya What does this book say about
nakiya? It was very useful for them when it was speaking about the Quran What does he say about even Baba he says he called
it an awaji button. The key here is worship You must do it you've got no choice. Man taraka demons either demon Tara cassara if you don't make the clear, you are just like a person who doesn't make Salah. Now you tell me making Salah Is it a rasa? Or is it an azima? Is it a basic rule is the exception to the rule. We don't make Salah because of some excuse we make Salah because we are Mormon
and sometimes I'm so ill, I'm unconscious or something then that's serosa So yeah, even Baba is telling us the key is something which you are obliged to maintain under all circumstances. If somewhat like sadu even Baba, he is one of the older mother she is not one of the 12 imams. If he is saying this. He must be getting it from certain statements which they ascribe to the 12 v ones. So let's have a look at some of those statements.
he narrates in his book and he says that inom jofra sodic Rahim Allah said something of this kind. Now when I quote these things for me, I'm jafra sodic I wish to add in the same breath, that as far as we are concerning I'm jafra Sadek never spoke such words. It's no different from the Rastafarians ascribing to Haile Selassie things which he never said about himself. These things happen. They happen in the past. They happening today. The speaker
Have ascribed things to the avalonbay to the family of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam which are a shame upon the name of the unknown by obeyed have nothing to do with this, but fine they believe that Jaffa sodic said local tau in North America taka taka taka sobre la quinta Sadiq Khan if I had to say a person who abandoned stockier is no different from a better form a person who abandoned Salah I would be truthful in what I say, this is human jofra sodic, who they believe is a mousumi Ma'am, they infallible Imams, he says, There is no difference between one who abandons nakiya and one with no Salah. In fact, now that was Jaffa sada now they go one step ahead. They say
Rasulullah sallallahu he was alum said that he could
you don't make the clear he just said like a person who doesn't make salah and then they didn't stop there.
It didn't stop them. They went beyond it and said that tequila is not just something which under very, very rare circumstances you have to resort to. They go to the point where they say that Java SE said and Allah knows that he never spoke such words. But they go to the point where they serum jofra sodic sin in the Santa ashari Deen if it was Dena Lima lattakia tala nine tenths of Dean is stuck here and if you don't have the clear you don't have any Dean within you whatsoever that has done to clear from an exception to be resorted to in cases of extreme necessity to something like what a regular institution
if you find yourself under circumstances where there's nothing to eat but pork and nothing to drink but wine and then you result with a lot less permitted that but when there's everything else around you and you're still eating pork and you still drinking wine that's not an exception any longer. That is a distortion of the religion of Allah tala.
nine tenths of the net still okay.
can still stomach that. It goes beyond that. It is said that there are two sons any son can be forgiven. Zina can be forgiven, stealing can be forgiven. Lying can be forgiven, cheating, murder can be forgiven, but there are two sins which will never be forgiven. What are those two sons? they quote from the Imams they say Yo fetullah holy mini cola them any son Allah will forgive for a believer
Mahara them been except for two sons, what are the terracotta Korea? What are the only one? If you abandon Takia? Allah will never forgive you for that. And the other one is you will fail to carry out the rights of your brothers. These two things is a unforgivable sins these two cannot be forgiven. These few cases here have shown us something. It shows us that the understanding of the theory by the Shia is completely different from understanding by the husana. What Allison understand from it is that the PA which Allah made reference to in the Quran, the P of the CI is nine tenths of the deen abandoning, which is an unforgivable sin. And it is worth it. How long will it be?
they say. under circumstances where you are living under threat. They are Amaya rulers or they are abasi rulers who are hostile towards a Shia and therefore the Shia, I have to resort to the simulation and Takia they have to stay things which they don't believe to save their lives. But how long will this continue? The clear is not a short term relief for them. It's not medicine which you take under dire circumstances. It is something that continues and continues and continues and for how long
they quote from Imam Ali or Reba to imaams after him Jaffa Jaffa Sadiq de Mousavi muscle Calvin son was Alia Riba and again, Allah knows that Allah would never have spoken words such as these but they quoted from him and he says, la imana Lima lattakia tala. You don't have the PA don't have a man. We're in Chroma combined Allah He armello can be the one most noble in the sight of Allah. Allah is the one who makes the who practices stucchi are the most the something I've made reference to before in economical mind the lie at kocoum which we believe the most noble one in the sight of Allah Allah is one of the highest amount of taqwa there is a not aquatopia Mottaki you make the more noble you
become in the sight of Allah tala. That much has been done, but that doesn't answer my question. My question is, how long does it last? Fabien Allahu, so someone asked him, you know Ali Baba, you have nanosuit Isla de la Motta. How long was we go on making tequila? He said Isla yo Milwaukee,
though that known date in the future, when is that wahoo I Omaha ruchika him in the day when the Mahi will up until that time you must continue making the clear doesn't stop. You must continue making taqiyya told him he comes and if you fail to observe this rule year, famine terra cotta Kenya
kubla Khan Amina Felice. I mean, if you abandon Takia before the math he comes in you're not one of us says this rewire, which ascribed to Imam Ali of nimasa or Reba, a she is under obligation to stick to Turkey or wherever he might be. If he finds himself amongst the Anglo Sunnah it's not a matter of choice he must resort to tequila because he does not resort to that he has an in terms of what we have read, even Baba he said it's wajib and here even Alia Lila is telling us Why did you banter what time until such time that the man he comes back to this world here. Therefore we will find them when they live. And this is one of those unfortunate instances from an SEO point of view.
They've always been a minority right now they 10% of the Muslim world. So they always found themselves in situations where the majority is also novel germana small minority as of this year, so when it comes to Salah, where do they stand? Must they now make their own Gemma somewhere else? I must say join for as long as people don't know them to be Shia. What must they do? They say that.
If you're living along with Gemma, then you must resort to tequila. And if it is all too tacky under such circumstances, your rewards are very, very great man. sulla ma Humphrey Safin, oh well, they say I'm Java that said if that she goes to them as it were that Hello sooner and under Takia he goes instead not in the last half way secret secret he does your own thing. Right in the first off, he stands with them. Pretending to be one of them in every way if you make Salah with them in that way, *a animals Allah Allah Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, it's like ma Salah with Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that is the benefit of the year.
We'll call them and Sun helful mana
in Ghana Come on Salah kalevala ima you make some are behind these benefits, you know to Makkah and Medina mega labia and those manavi moms or you come to any of our massage in the mix. You are like a personal made Salah, not behind the Imam of the masjid. But behind one of the 12 infallible imams themselves. This is the benefit of the PA it raises us up to such an extent. One of the reasons Allah Mohammed Al Hussein cassava, he wrote a book called Oslo she sold her a book written in order to show
the kind of commonality that exists between the shiana husana. One of those books written for the purposes of
propagation propaganda. His grandfather, shall Java cache evil he thought had no such qualms because he lived in a time when there was no need to deceive anyone. So he wrote something else. He says that when the clear becomes word man's, either attack,
once the clear is worship upon a person for a matter
so that he comes into our Sunday Masjid, and he makes Allah like we do. He goes against IKEA. In other words, he makes a lot with his little stone in front of him. This shape Jafar cachito says that slavery is not even counted Why is not counted because he didn't make that clear. under circumstances such as that you are obliged you are bound to make Takia, you've got no choice in the matter, it seems to us
that many of our unfortunate brothers who studied about read a book here and then decided to convert to the show and became Shia. They haven't really studied the math of the Shia in depth, when they live amongst us, such as they are not supposed to do their own thing. They are supposed to make that appear and leave that little stone out and make Salah like everyone else, because in terms of this particular factor here, if they make some other way they should, then that's not even counted.
When it's supposed to be done is the key. You're only supposed to be done under circumstances where you feel yourself under the threat.
If we look at the previous
narrations that they ascribe to the Imams, and you listen to the tone of them, it would seem to say, you know, the Shia are always under threat and everyone's looking at them in a way that the threateningly and I'm going to do this to you and I'm going to do that to you. If you don't conform to us. It gives the impression that tequila on account of the need is justifiable. In light of the fact that everyone else forces us into it. They asked once he early one day,
what do you say about tequila? Sony came to him and asked him, What do you say about tequila?
He didn't answer straightforward. His answer was La Ilaha.
Illa. Allah was those girls, those people who forced us to make turkey in other words, we don't want to make duck a year. But using your knees are forcing us into tequila. You are forcing us because if we don't do things that way you will do then you are going to do this to us. You didn't do that to us. None of those things happen. Every year. You see hundreds of 1000s of Shia pilgrims coming to Mecca and Medina. They make Salah in their own way. They've been here in our country for 30 years. We never stop them.
Making salah and the way that they want to. Our only problem is that stick to your own turf don't encroach, because the moment you start encroaching and you're making certain claims, you're making certain claims that our Deen is not valid and therefore you need to propagate your deen. Now that's when you start upsetting the balance. Now that's when you're going to start getting us into programs such as this doing what a post mortem on Takia today, we wouldn't have done this but the balance has been upset. Anyway we go on so it's only something to be resorted to under dire circumstances, as much as one might want to believe that is only something we should do under such circumstances that
she I have narrations from the Imams such as the following which says that, under all circumstances you must make that the year whether there's reason to fear or no reason to fear. It says one of the rewired says Allah can be 30 year stick to cling to it. Practice it all the time. For in our whole lives. I'm in Malema era where they thought Oh, man, yeah, man who later corner Sergey yetta, whom I thought oh, you must make that clear. Those who make the clear for those who they do not fear. Now the sentence becoming somewhat convoluted when she The exam is saying those people are not of me who want out of me. Those who refuse to make the clear what a person who they don't, they're not fear.
Now you won't either she's got nothing to fear from us. So what should he do with us? Must he tell us straight forward? You know, this is what I believe in. That's what I believe. Now he misheard him, even if you don't feel the person continue making tequila. Why? Because if you continue making tequila in this way, you will pick up the habit of tequila. When you pick up the habit of the clear the day you come in front of someone you need to fear then you are well schooled in tequila you know exactly how to go about and if you fail to do that Felisa meanness is the Imam practice the key are those who your fear and those of you who don't fear why those who don't fear in Lita corner Sergi
yetta, who so that becomes second nature to you. It reminds you once upon a time, I read
a tour guide of the land of Iran written somewhere in the first half of the century, long before the Iranian Revolution everything else when Britain was still very much enamored with the Far East and trying to go there and see what's it all about and someone comes back and writes a tour guide. And in there I came across a particular sentence where this Englishman is warning his fellow countrymen he says Ilan is a wonderful country, a lot of culture, a lot of everything else, but just please be wary. The people lie.
So don't believe anyone for what he says it's an art which they have developed. So you must be able to see through it. It's purely simply part of the culture. Now it wasn't intended to make anyone laugh. It was intended to show that when you continuously backtest appear in this way that what has been cited in this particular have either some or the other comes about what happens that you have become or other appears become your second nature. We even when there's no need to hear from anyone you must continue making
joyful coffee whether
it comes in Al caffee
from un Java Sadek and others inside Ghana Abby, who is this know about Abdullah Abdullah Jaffa saw that he quotes from his father
because he saw that Li Mohammed Mohammed Al Baraka can be alayhis salam Yeah, cool. What are you sharing in a car unruly, any minute
which thing causes me greater pleasure than the step here there's nothing that gives me greater pleasure than this particular attack here is something to take pleasure in and he goes on ma Halak. Allahu
Allah has not created anything that gives your father as much pleasure as that he gives him. These are the mousumi imams. These are the infallible imams of the unknown by it that the she ascribed this kind of thing to
you know, this is a story of a person to friends with traveling. They say this this story usually illustrates why you must have a stupid friend.
The two friends with reveling in the one window and take a nap not only sitting next to him, and the fly came to sit in front of the forehead of the one friend and the other friends is no man flies on the head of my friend and he takes a big stone and he's not he knocks the fly, and it's not safe for him do it. So this is why you shouldn't have a stupid friend. You mustn't have stupid followers like these also they are thinking that they defending the animal by by saying things like this, what are they doing? They taking the names of the unknown bait of the family of Allah sallallahu Sallam and dragging me through the mud of tequila when others much less in stature, in descent in line of
descent who are the Abu hanifa that Persian Malik that asthma here, a sharpie that mortality might even humble people such as this, who do not even have the blood of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. an olive may be a polyp causing in their veins, if they could stand up to the rulers of the times and be less than be punished within an inch of their lives. These are a mother and all right, we are expected to believe that at the drop of
They will speak a lie and say this causes great pleasure to my eyes. This simply doesn't fit the picture that we are supposed to have of love and respect for the rule by Robbie Allah on whom
there's much more
to be said about the status of tequila
and how wonderful it is to make tequila and when must you make that clear when must you not make a year. I think the point that we have arrived at here is simply to tell you this that tequila is something ingrained within the veins of the Shia. It runs yejide mean I had imagined them, it runs in the veins like blood runs in the lanes is something which cannot just be separated from them. A person is not just gonna spend on his heel and say, well, no more Ducky and me a born and bred care. It's part of his duty as a Shiri to continue making tequila until when not until the Islamic revolution has succeeded in Islamic Republic has been established in 1979. It continues until the
time that the MA D comes it's something which you and I cannot wish away as much as we might want to our next question, however, is why
why did the she carries over to something such as stuck here?
Why none of the other six in Islam in fact, aside from the if naturally the twelvers the other she I don't believe in
the other she others ladies, for example. Now these ladies, whatever one might say about them, they were men of truth they stood up for the cause. And they died for those causes of this as well. While the if Nash area was setting in corners and making Tachyon deceiving the entire world. So the 80s had huge problems with them. Between these two groups of the Shia, there is a very very fervent polemic going on about whether you can make that the you can make that here. And the ladies feel that these people have slammed the animal Bay. But by ascribing things such as this to them, our question however, is why do they resort to tequila? tequila is for them the solution to each
problem. First of all, we need to understand something you need to understand how does she conceive of the society in which Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam came and gave his message initially that community in Makkah and thereafter the community in Medina, I've touched upon this before repetition is going to be good.
That society we believe in Makkah was a small group of believers Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam with a small group of believers in a sea of kuffaar amongst them
around them. And then they made his you know to Medina and what was in Medina, the major body of Muslims, a few monoethylene around in Medina as well. Someone as 18 outside as well. But Medina was the house of Islam.
The mana within were in the minority, they wanna fix No monastics in Makkah and Medina, but they were the minority. Why those Sahaba has to do with Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam was such a stager that Allah Allah Kotel, Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, yeah, you have nabee you have smoke Allah woman is meaning sufficient for you, oh, NaVi, oh Prophet, is Allah, Allah sufficient for you and those believers who are with you, that community we read the ayah, Mohammed Rasulullah, and how Allah speaks about the Sahaba love Yolanda mean there. That's our understanding of history. That's our view of that particular community. What are the elements in that society? The core group is
Muslim men, the followers of azula sallallahu wasallam, they are some elements of NIF Ark, and those elements of the FARC towards the end of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam is live they died out.
And what what remained, they remained that community that Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam could open his curtain from his room, and look at them and smile, that beauty a smile, which is Malin say, these are the people. These are the fruits of my efforts of 23 years Alhamdulillah and he left this world in their hands. That's how we understand it to the CIA has always been different. When they look at the Muslim community, they see Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam and a very, very small group of believers only Allah Vitaly, even hadiza and a few other salmaan is not even there yet. He will come in Medina, only a very, very small group of believers. Those believers find themselves in
a group of winners in those who go by the names of Abu Bakar and Omar and Othman and a few others like that, and this group of believers surrounded by men find themselves surrounded by a bigger group of kafar then the entire manavi group makes his euro worthless hola lalala Salaam to Medina. Why they say well keep your enemies keeps your friend close and keep your enemies even closer. So rather keep them with you. Take them with you and he's not to Medina, and then the moment Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam passes away and leave this world The monarchic party takes over. And the group of believers Alibaba live in San Manuel pharmacy, and admirably ASEAN and macdaddy aswad in Abu
Dhabi. These people are then left defeated. They were supposed to take Ali rising to the level of the khilafah they didn't saw back
And all the other minority now that we took over this year, have you? So their view of Muslim society is that from day one, at the sacrifice of an ISA, the plan of allow Thailand promulgation that a lot of that even alima succeed Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam was thwarted by the Sahaba. They did not allow Allah planned to come through, therefore, a khilafah was institutionalized, and that khilafah was illegitimate. And when you are living under an illegitimate government, what do you do? You go into Takia.
Why? Because they notice something. What was the life of Alinea Vitaly like what the hell with the hula? How was his relationship with Abu Bakar and Omar and as man? What was the relationship like with them? Were they? Well, we notice he named his son's Abu Bakr Omar mouth man, and he gave his daughter a marriage to Omar, and a few other things like that many of these which we have mentioned already. So this year on a quandary in a problem, how do we reconcile the fact that Ali is a close advisor of Al Baqarah? Man, how do we reconcile the fact that he even names his children after them? Only one solution? Ali was making tequila? Why was he making tequila? Well, you know, those people
can cause you great harm, they can kill you, they can harm you, they can hurt you. So rather keep quiet. And for the sake of pleasing them, you name your child after them. Name your child after them even living in America, you call your child, George Bush, we can call him now as a better better name. Now Barack Hussein you can call him not that bad. So to that extent, you know, if you find a Muslim, living a Muslim, a very committed jihadi fellow
and you find your asking brother Mashallah very nice boy that you've got a What's his name? His name is Marcela george bush. What will you think of him? You're a sellout. I mean, did you have to name yourself george bush? Couldn't you find any other name and your other son disease? Donald Rumsfeld. He says
this is what they're saying about the annual budget that they named their sons against after the who the Donald Rumsfeld and george bush's of back then
this is, this is what falls into Turkey, they had no other way to explain the good relations which existed between the albite and the Sahaba. The Allah one home, so we are seeing three distinct parties. There is a whole bite and there is a Sahaba and then they are the Shia this year are a group about the Shia come much later in history. And they try to account for things which happened very, very early on. How do they account for it? They say, You know those imams unfortunately they were forced, they had no other way out. They had to make Takia they had to name their sons after them and give them the daughters in marriage. That's the first reason.
Second reason why they make the clear is that connected to the first one, those imams are not just normal people, those imams are masoom. They are infallible. So how do we explain when infallible people start doing things like this? People who are infallible people who have the courage of lions in the hand, why do they need to do things like this? They are infallible, the only way that you can explain if you don't accept the point of view, their historical point of view and also, if you're going to insist on being a theory, the only way that you can explain it is that either you're going to say the Imam was wrong he should never have named the sun Abubakar or Omar or anything like that
he should never have given his daughter a marriage to Omar. If you say the Imam is wrong, then the Imam is not now assume the Imam is not infallible any longer. Because if no like you and I can say the Imam was wrong, they can't say that either. So the only solution was well, the Imam knew what he was doing he had to do these things it was by false Is that clear? Therefore they had to resort to issues of this nature.
And we come to a third reason
as time marched on now, now the she has started developing amongst themselves a new Hadith literature. Now all these a Hadith of the Shia which we've been reading that the key is nine tenths of Deen and all of these things. Eventually this kind of literature starts growing.
We are now way
after the year 200 onwards after the 200 the car start writing books in which they compile the statements of their demands. Now this I discuss ones before the evolution of this particular Hadith literature of the Shia How did it come about? Our theory about it is the shadow these things themselves, and then they ascribe it to the Imams. The theory is not without substantiation. What's the substantiation for it? There is such a lot of contradiction in those statements. Sometimes the Imam says this thing is halaal turns around the next generation is haram. Sometimes he says the Salah is correct then in the very next statement, he says no the Salah is not correct any longer. So
there's such a lot of contradiction that the Shia themselves right I call the double Jaffa Tosi, one of the author of the four major books of hardy on the first page of the book, he says Hector Lai Acharya
Illa will be his email. You can barely get the Hadith which is not contradicted by another hour.
opinion about this is this was made by a made up by the sheer themselves that he obviously cannot subscribe to a similar opinion because to them this is the legacy of the unknown based upon this legacy and so it's what they call the jaffery madhhab. So they had to account for it in a different way. They say that he is and why there is contradiction because the Imams used to sit in their homes and people come to them and ask them questions. And then the Imam has to be extremely careful. You can't just give any answer because who knows who's present. So if there is a Sunni present here that came yesterday on our there is a Sunni I see it's something is not smelling right today, so I'm
going to give a Sunni answer.
And if there is no Sony's present then it gives us the answer. So when they find two Hadees contradicting one another like this, then they say well, the Imam had to use the PA Why do they have to use nakiya because there was a harmless little Sunni setting in his gathering and just to deceive him he gave an answer such as this is this respect to the albite is an honor of the annual bite. If this is anything it is again dragging the albanes name through the mud created by the Shia themselves.
Give you a few examples of these things.
When we make wudu
then we wash certain parts of the body. And there's one part of our day which we all wipe that's our heads if we were to Cockney, the head unfortunately in Cape Town everyone says you have work of sort of work of that you must wipe is the head itself where the hair grows, even if you don't have a
anyway so we wipe only the head. The face we wash the arms we wash we wipe the head and what about the feet we the ulcer novel Jana we wash our feet
and the Shia what do they do? Now the argument we can take it back to the Quran and there's a long linguistic argument because there are two camera one says one Sahabi Rosie Kumar Jo Lakhan one says Wanda Hobi Rosie Kumar Julie calm. I'm not going to go into it for now. All that I want to tell you now is that we that and also not all of us wash our feet. Why because the Hadith from Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam mutawatir they've reached the highest levels of intensity. So high in number they that they cannot be rejected any longer. The feet are supposed to be washed and not white. The sheer wipe their feet. Like you know when you make Masako fine. When you are wearing hopes you just
take a wet hand and wipe it over the top. That's what they do do they read every day, they don't wash their feet they wipe their feet. But in the Hadith books, they have both kind of narrations there are some narrations which says the Imam said wash your feet and then there are some narration which say that the Imam said wipe your feet above Jaffa toes the same person who I quoted early on let's listen to him reconciling this contradiction he says harbor harbor
this harbor this hadith here the one that says wash your feet. This is in accordance to what the lasagna believe.
Walk out the water the Maori that it was mentioned in a context of tequila. The reason why the Imam said wash your feet because he was a Sunni present and he had to make that a year the unelma allume Allah the lie at the heart as you may know shocked me mother he be in Medina and I will be masala Islam because he says what our imams have stated there's no doubt about it, you wipe on your feet you don't wash. So why did they mom say wash to cheat to deceive the Allah sadhana just in order to deceive that Allah so now that no one causes him any kind of harm. That's one Another prominent difference between ourselves in the Shia is the following. In other one we have
hyaena salah and we have high alfalah
if anyone knows a bit about the G I've traveled in the country or something like that, you will know that they got another high Allah
because Allah Salah then they go to high alfalah and after they go after that they have got higher Allah hi Ed Lama
ever go anywhere and you hear someone saying hey,
there's a Shia doing that. They say this is the original oven and who changed it Omar changed it. He said take it
out of the oven.
So when they have a hadith and they do have there are three kinds of a Hadeeth the first one it contains hi Allah hi Ramallah say well this is the way that is supposed to be according to them. Then there's another Hadith it contains no hi Allah, a llama, yada yada yada, then high alpha, and then we go on. Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar. So they say well, this is in accordance with Allah Suna. This the Imam did in order to deceive the Aleutian IDD for the sake of tequila. So it doesn't stop there. There is another addition into the other one.
Which we also now have. We have it only at vajilla Salah to hire Amina now.
There is a very this woman added to the other and there was no Serato hi Romanian Amina Allah Salallahu Salam Omar added into the other one
So then there is a hadith of this.
There is a hadith of this that contains both
hyaena halal Amel, as well as a Salah to hydrometeor now if you making the claim that the Imam was saying hey Allah halal only when there's no Sunni present how you're going to account for the fact that a Serato Hiraman announcer Tina same Hadith wanted everyone heard if
there's only one way to explain it, the man said
she has no so nice reason when a Sunni came in in the end he quickly said a Salah to hire Roman and know that she I have to do things like this you have to resort to tricks like this because if you have to cover for historical fabrication, you're going to become the laughingstock of history. That's too, we've seen the other one. We've seen the old Oh, there's another one. Now this is an important one. Somehow the other it links up with something else. You will remember previously we spoke about fadak. Now fadak was that garden then hybrid world that Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam owned in his lifetime, and when he passed away, so either fathima the Aloha came to Abubakar on the
low or no requesting any inheritance. And he told her that I would have given you with every pleasure in my heart birth Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam your father said that we don't leave any inheritance behind but he gave her the undertaking. I will deal with it exactly as also Allah sallallahu Sallam dealt with it not the same from the goes to my family. those very same persons who got from it why was Allah sallallahu Sallam love they will get from it now if you benefited in his lifetime you will get it now. Anyway we're not going to go back to that issue. But in the back of the car there is something very, very strange. They insist that fathima should have gotten fadak but
the fifth of the she has says that a woman if you have a son and you have a daughter, your son can inherit your car your daughter can inherit your car both your son and daughter can inherit your money and your clothing and your cool coins or anything like that but i daughter does not inherit land. Land only goes to the male side no daughters can inherit land.
How do they reconcile the fact that no daughters can inherit land when the instance a faulty members get further but that's aside from the point that we want to make here now, one Hadith comes in the sources and he says
he threw her water resume in coolish in terracotta rocket that girl is also able to inherit whatever her father left behind whatever in others a woman can also succeed to land the property to real estate again. So how does she explain it? They say no, the Imam said that once once again for the sake of tequila he said it in order to deceive some people one last masala to explain it. And this masala is another one another famous difference of opinion between ourselves in the car the muscle of motor lovers of what temporary marriage I see if you hate shaking here I'm not going into the details of it now. But
Mota I'm using the example of this. They are hard in the books of the car they says yes mutrah is a good thing. And you make mootai you go to the level of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam if you do it so many times you reach the level of house and he did so many times you got to level up from saying Kabbalah how Lyle katha been a lot Allah destroy liars. But anyway.
So this motor when there comes a hard in the books of the Shia with the Imam himself says Mata is haram, that he has a well you know the man was putting on a show again. He was just deceiving some Sudanese because there was some Sunni present. And if he added the Sunni well until the government tell the governor did you know what the Imams are once said, and they will bring him answer was not in front of a God and He will have to answer all of these difficult questions and therefore resorted to lying.
Why do people resort to these things for these reasons that we have seen now? Because they believe in the legitimacy of the rule of the hula? Because they insist on saying that the Imams are soon and because they've got a major problem. That major problem is their Hadid legacy is so rife with contradiction, that there's no other way to explain the except by saying that the Imams were guilty after a year, however, we say there is another way of explaining it. Just admit the fact that it's a fabrication. Once we have admitted the fact that the fabrication, the entire house of cards come plunging down, there is no reason to explain and to jump from here to there. And to get ourselves
entangled in this kind of explanation that we have seen up to now.
These are the reasons why this year have been or other why they they may talk to you because there's a
monster loss we must make that a year. What are the implications of this entire thing called Takia. We looked at the definition of the pier. We looked at what does it mean to the shear how close it lies to the heart and how it flows well veritably within the veins of the Shia, and then we've looked at reasons why why did they have to resort to such a principle or doctrine called Takia.
There's one last reason which remains any community, which finds itself or things itself to be unique. But it is a minority, that community will start taking certain steps to preserve itself. self preservation, how do you preserve yourself and your own character and your identity. We as Muslims living in this part of the world, we make sure we put the coffee on our heads, we make sure we give our children Muslim names, we make sure we eat halal food only, we make sure of a whole lot of things. These are ways in which we preserve ourselves, the Shia, that's a self preservation mechanism for them as well, in order to remain different from the rest in order to remain different
from the rest. This follows on to the previous point, once they have said anything that agrees to the Hello Sona. They're stuck here. Anything which is different from others is unique to us. In other words, there is a desire to be different. We want to be different, we want to stand out, we do not want to go with the flow. We do not want to conform we are non conformists
in this respect, even jofra sodic is once again stated by them to have said that mother, Mazda Miata Mini, usually your cola nursey feta, if you hear any fatwa from me, that is in accordance to what the people believe in evolution or will be believed, then you must know that that is stuck here. Any fatwa that comes from any of these imams of the Shia, that's in line with a Sudanese that is not true. That is only a 30 year amiata Mini language.
But if you hear another fatwa from me, and that's not in line with the people believe, is not in harmony with what they're doing, and that is a real fear of the unknown, but according to the sheer Well, this is background, we've seen these reasons. Now, these what was the first reason the legitimacy of the of the whole of the his mother infallibility of the annual by the need to account for contradiction within the Hadith legacy of the Shia. And lastly, that desire to remain different, that desire not to conform to standards and said but now we ask the last question upon wish wish, upon which we will conclude for this lesson and for this year, and that is what are the implications
of the Year for the entire for the Shia themselves, the alleged legacy of the alibi, and then for this entire oma, who needs new unity at this moment in time, much more than what it needed it before.
As far as two implications here, implications for the status of the oma right now the status quo of DOMA right now. And then implications for the mother hub and the belief structure and the fifth and the method of practice of the Shia. There is a what they are practicing is from the moms of the unknown by it. I think we've seen sufficient reason to doubt I think we have seen sufficient reason to look at this with a suspicious eye. Can this really be from the avalonbay it will the Ahlul bait really and I shaver for saying such a thing, but whether Alan Bates such spineless wimps whoops that couldn't stand up to the rulers of the time.
When the car transmitters legacy, when they make their Salah in a particular way, when they fast and all of these things, they have their own, it rests upon those a hardy can that with any amount of confidence be ascribed back to the annual base? I don't want to answer the question. I will leave that question to be answered by one of the alumni of the car themselves is a really useful Bharani he's written a book in 25 volumes. It's called the
dealer fee calculator the power healer in that book he writes the following
follow me Oh Allah minakami Dini, hallelujah, clean in Luckily,
we can have no confidence in all these outcome of the end that we have narrated except for a very, very small little portion of it. There are 16,000, a hadith in El kaffee and a few more 1000 other remaining books. To what extent can we have confidence in the opinion that this comes from Rahul by here is a siolim use of Ronnie himself saying that we can have very little confidence in this except for a very, very few a hadith everything else is suspect. Why is it also snake limped his body?
Because the Hardys of our moms are mixed with a hadith of tequila. So we don't know what is the key and what is not tequila. This thing called tequila has destroyed the legacy of the Ahlul bait which they believed in. It has destroyed the legacy of the Allied, these lies that were ascribed to the annual buy, buy the car themselves. He goes on. He goes on to say, do you think that they resorted to this kind of tequila out of need because of fear? He says no. He goes on your Harley funa Bienal in Lamia.
He says our imaams appear to be giving fatwas. Our imams appear to be making statements even. We can understand when there's some Sunni present but sometimes even when there is no Sunni present
They give conflicting views. Fatah homeo de buena fille masala Tila wahida de be attributed Mata Dida. He says you will see our imams on one particular point they give several different answers. And there's nothing to explain it not even the presence of a Sunni, what in lumea can be haka, ilumina. Mahalo even even if there is no opponent to all the different view, they give conflicting answers. And there are several cases like this recorded in the AEC. A person comes to him Jaffa saw that, he asks him about the meaning of an idea, he gives him the meaning the person sits down, a person or next person comes in, he asked about the idea, saying it gives a different meaning. A
third person comes in this person, the original person sitting there, he says, he's wondering now, if the first one was right, and the second one is wrong. The second one is wrong. Then the third one is, where do we go? The man says afterwards you see, we have to do these things in order to preserve ourselves and preserve you. And then he gives him another part of the answer. He says, We the Imams, we have been given a certain authority to do these things. We can give any answer that we want to because Allah, Allah says in the Quran, Ma, como Rasulo for Whoa, whoa, whoa, Manohar. kumanovo, Fanta, whatever the Prophet gives you take it, and whatever he prohibits you from stay away from it.
And then the Imam says pharma, ferwerda ihlara solina. Pocket photo, Elena, that authority which Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam was given that authority we either in terms of the debate also have we can make halal haram as we desire.
There are several more incidents, I'm not going to go into the details of all of them. The last point upon which we will wrap up is simply this. When we have a group of people
in who's thought
in his legacy, in his methodology,
in his very psyche, the idea of being different from the other person is so deeply ingrained on top of it, as deeply ingrained within them is
that order that command to conceal the command to deceive the command not to reveal truth, which might turn back upon you in a negative way.
If this is the kind of people that we are dealing with, to what extent can we really speak about
To what extent can we speak about
having the same purposes, moving forward towards the same kind of purpose? If we read the past three decades of history, we've heard the slogans of unity several times over. But what we have seen, we have seen last week I mentioned the ambassador of Iran himself came to ecosa in those days, and what does he speak about?
That's got nothing to do with international easily. There's got everything to do with converting the listener to this year.
So we see this doublespeak, we see this double dealing. What is that? That if anything is evidence of the fact that Takia hasn't died, that he hasn't died. So is there a future
for dialogue is a future
for unity, I will still say there is a future for dialogue. There is a future for his for unity, there's a future of all of these things. But none of those go without conditions. The most important condition for that dialogue to occur. And that unity to occur is that there has to be honesty, and for as long as honesty doesn't exist, there is no future whatsoever. Then we can talk slogans, after slogans, after slogans, rallies after rallies after rallies, publish books and convert people, this oma will not achieve the desired purpose, a purpose and objective which is as close to our heart, as I believe in the hearts of many. She on the other side, the Shia themselves have to face the
challenge. What is the challenge? Be honest, be honest about what is in your legacy? When we read your legacy, don't tell us we have misread it Do not insult our intelligence. It says a slap in the face to be told that no, you mustn't read that book, you must read only books which I will tell you to read. That's a slap in the face. For as long as such insults to our intelligence will continue. There is no future for this kind of unity and dialogue which we speak which we seek. But if there is honesty on the other side where people are prepared to say, look, we know we have been guilty. We know that those things are there. We admit that and therefore we will not even invite people in your
communities to come over to our side, because we admit we've got a lot of things to fix up on our side. If they can be a starting point then there is a future for unity. If there can be a starting point in dialogue could perhaps occur but for
As long as that doesn't occur, there is no future for it. Well, I can do Diana hamdulillahi Rabbil aalameen