07 – Battle of the Camel
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hamdulillah Hello I'm Bill I mean
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wanna shadow on NASA you wanna be no mo Lana Mohammed Anna Abdullah. He also known I mean Allahumma salli wa sallim wa barik ala Sayyidina Muhammad in while early he thought he rien masahito even woman who whom he served in Isla Yomi Deen avadh.
In last week's lecture,
we started looking at
the history of imama.
Now to refresh the memories of those that have been here from the beginning, and to serve as an introduction for those who are not here, from the beginning, what we speak of when we say you Mama, is that particular doctrine that particular belief of the Shia in terms of which allowed Allah had appointed after Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam 12 men from amongst the albite for amongst the family of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam upon whom the duty of leading and teaching and guiding the oma after a sort of loss, Allah Allah Salam devolves.
So in the absence of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam, it is only these men who can teach only these who can guide only these who can lead the oma as well.
There are several incidents in history
that form flashpoints of the conflict
that exists between the Alassane on the one hand and the car on the other. We've looked at several of those last week, with the time available, it was only possible to go that much beneath the surface. Otherwise, each of those incidents could serve as an independent topic upon which we can speak for what not one, but several hours. There are several other aspects of it several angles to all of those issues, be the incident of fadak. The garden which side of faulty model, the Aloha claimed as a inheritance after the demise of her father sallallahu alayhi wasallam be if the issue of the suceava were Abubakar was elected as the believer be in the rise of Oman hop up to the Hill
if we if we descend that occurred in the time of Satan of man, even our fun, or the rebellion that occurred in the time of Satan Alekna Vitaly, up to the death of Satan Al Hussein at Karbala.
Each of these issues can serve as a topic upon which we can speak for hours. What we are, however intended to do was to give a brief introduction from the Sunni point of view that this is how we view these particular issues. The reason for that is that many of us unfortunately tend to be absolutely unaware that incidents like this ever took place. So when we have a mind that has not been exposed yet, to the fact that Jamal battle took place by the name of jurmala Battle of the camel Sahaba on both sides, sci fi in a battle Sahaba on both sides. When people have not been exposed to the idea then the minds are a blank slate. And the first one that comes along to give a
certain impression and a certain version of what transpired. He is a successful one he manages to put his idea across, but once a person has been given the version of events as we are lasuna will jamara seed in light of the Quran in light of the Sunnah, then you have been inoculated against any warped or any twisted version thereof.
We looked at incidents in the time of Satan Allah Vitaly thereafter incidents in a time of signal hustling no Holly
them manner in which the oma came to conclude all of those wars that had happened before in the 60 after the age of the year, that was called the homily JAMA, the year when unity was once again restored in this oma when Hassan Ali, and while we have Nabi sofian got together and formed a pact and came to a solution to their problems and the oma once again could
go ahead, serving the duty that Allah tala had given it to be called us towards Allah.
Thereafter, we looked at
the very grievous death of Satan Al Hussein at Karbala, but we went beyond. We went somewhat beyond those particular recollections of the story that happened every year, more or less at this time that lies ahead of us. We looked at the matter and came to find that the villains involved in the death of sinal Hussein, were not just the oma years in the governance in the armies. There was another party that was equally responsible and that was those she of course
Who invited Hussein and at the moment when he needed the most, one of the for him after signal Hussein
who becomes the new exam of the car, or other to express it more properly, to whom do the car now look at whom do they appoint is the new exam, because it was not these figures from amongst the
who, who raised themselves to the status of an Imam. It was rather the followers who did that. It was the followers will elevate a person to such a status in order to give some kind of an idea, some kind of an idea how it sometimes happens, that a person himself lays no claim to any kind of position, but followers with their own agendas, raise him to that particular position. It is sufficient for us to look at a contemporary example. Example which you might find somewhat extraneous, but it illustrates the point quite well. I don't think there is anyone sitting here is not aware of the Rastafarians.
We know all of them. We know some of them. We know what they look like. But do we know what they believe? And how did this particular religion called Rastafarian ism come about?
African slaves had been taken over the Atlantic Ocean to the Americas.
Gradually from within some of them the idea came about after having been discriminated against for centuries, the idea came about a kind of an African pride, a pride in the fact that I have African roots. And with some of them, they came the idea that they will arise a great leader from Africa in this time, who will be our leader and who will lead us back to greatness once again. They looked at all the African leaders at the time, and the one that caught the fancy was the rule of Abyssinia Ethiopia at that time. We know him as Haile Selassie, Haile Selassie is his title, the name that he assumed upon his elevation to the Empire to being the Emperor. He his proper name is Ross Tafari.
Ross means a prince like we say he is in the Arabic language, Salas. And he's given name is Tafari. So they looked at this, this is our leader, they say, He is the one who will lead us back he is the Lion of Judah.
Haile Selassie himself is completely unaware of what people are saying about him. Once it happened, that these people, a group of these other stuff, aliens came across and came to visit him in Ethiopia. And he was astonished to hear the kind of claims that are being made about him. He never heard about it before. What were those claims, not only is the Lion of Judah, he is God incarnate upon Earth.
So this kind of thing happened now it happened back then to there were people making claims about leaders which those leaders had never made for themselves. In any event, we are now more or less at the time, after the 61 after the original Satan and Hussein had been murdered at Karbala. The Shia themselves Luke amongst albite will be our next leader. I decided to use some poetry at the time. Last week, I decided to do some poetry that poetry was by Elaine Neary. I say the Lamia he was a poet from amongst Shia and his ideas that he expresses in this property give us a very very clear idea of what he is almost like for them at that time. In imata min coration Willa roboton Sawa. Or
he says the Imams only for imams from koresh. They are for Imams, the idea of 12 imams had not even come about yet. He says the only 12 imams of only four imams. Who are those four exams? Ali Yoon was Salah, said to me money he hormonal us bar to lay sabby him halfa or italienne three of his sons. Now we know Ali, we know Hassan we know Hussein and then there is another son Muhammad evnol hanafy Yeah, he failed son of Alibaba Vitaly, at that time the majority of the she I looked at this third son because Hussein has died at Karbala. So they said our next mom is this one year
for Siebel tune Siebel to email and in we'll see that in we'll see we'll talk about who Karbala Oh, two of those grandsons of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. I passed on along already one was Hassan. One was murdered at Karbala. So who's the third one, the third son of Ali.
They said now it's here. But time goes by after the why Mohammed Abu hanifa dies. What happens now? For the first time now we find the Shia bringing up the idea of a Riba. What is a Reba. Reba the fancy term for it in English is an occultation. Basically what it means a person disappears from this level of existence this dimension, he exists somewhere else. He is in hiding. He will come back at some future
Right. So they said that the third demand or the third grandson in that line was Mohammed Abu hanifa. And what happens to him now
that he was able to lie?
haleiwa or the third of them will not die. He lives a long life. He will live a long life until the time will come when he will leave the armies to restore the greatness of the Shia and alone by it. But where is he is not the year he has died. They say No, he hasn't died. Taha Yaba Allah you Rafi hymns anon be robbed winder who has? He has gone into occultation, he will come back at some future date. And then the time comes after a while is he but we are waiting for the sinner. Where is he? He is not there. It's a figment of the imagination. Therefore they say well, let's change he is not the man who's the Imam, the son of Hussein's army Dean is the Imam. They lobbied he lives a life of
withdrawal in Medina, and he dies in the year 95 after the cedula at this point in time, most of themselves looking at his eldest son, Mohammed halbach. They say that's how he mom. Now Mohammed Al Baraka was a learning scholar. I had eaten a puppy, and Ali Mendoza, he then an IRB from among the FBI, but what he never got involved in was those particular activities, which his grandfather's Al Hussein, once upon a time, got involved in and burned his finger so badly with the Shia. They come to you, they tell you, we will support you. He never listened to any of the ideas because he had seen it with his grandfather. He had seen it with his great grandfather, that there is a group of
people that will tell you come and we will support you. when the moment comes, they will not support you. They did it with his younger brothers aid.
What do they they said we will support you and when he needed the help they said no, since you think God won't support you.
Mohammed Al Baraka dies in the year 114. After the healer now the Shia say two groups of them there are two groups. One group says he is not dead. He will come back again at the end of time he's nearly gone into high bar is gone into occultation. Upon the death of almost each of these imams. The idea comes though, he is coming again. He is not here. He's coming again. Another group is a bit more realistic. They say he has died, but he his son Jaffa saw that becomes a meme after him. jofra sodic loves a long life is a contemporary of your family, a contemporary of Imam Abu hanifa Rahmatullah Hema.
He lives a long life but similar to his father in Medina, no political activity whatsoever the debate had learned the lesson with the Shia, they will not be deceived by any she coming to them and say we will assist you in a rebellion. So he lives this life of withdrawal. He lives a life of pacifism. He does not get involved in any kind of activity. His life is spent in ibadah. His life is spent in Ireland, his life is spent in teaching others and rectifying them.
He dies in the year 148 after the cedula but now they comes about the problem which escapes to before up to this time that she had always said the EMA EMA to fill activity. Meanwhile, the eldest son of the EMA must be the new EMA. The problem is the eldest son had died. So they go back to an old idea of without even me obey the McAfee. Allah has changed his mind. He wanted the elder son his smile to be the Imam but then his smile surprises a lot and dies. So what happens to the Imam and how various different groups come up? The one you can already expect? What's that group saying? He didn't die. He's coming back again Riba. Another group says no, the Imam is Abdullah Al after
another group says no need Zakaria. Another group says no, Mohammed, another group says is his heart and a little group says no, the new Eman is this. The other song call Moosa allow him he is in
complete disarray in the ranks of the Shia, but they eventually settle upon. Okay, Marcel Calvin is our new Imam. Mosul Calvin dies in the year 183 after the healer. They say now the new email marketing media Sonali arriva Alia Reba dies in the 203 after the jaw, they say now the new mom is going to be his son, Muhammad Ali Jawad when Muhammad Ali Awad dies about 17 years later.
This confusion once again amongst them, some of them again claim that no he hasn't died He will come back, the majority say no. Then you he mommies his son, Ali and her the Ali Al Hadi eventually dies in the year 253. And now they say that the new Eamon is is very young son in his 20s he is only and his name is Hassan Alaska he by this time the Imams had been moved out of Medina, the abasi Khalifa most of the time have taken those Imams, move them away from Medina and move them close to the habasit Capital because of the manner in which the CI used to attach themselves to these exams. Just to keep them close that we can see what is happening around them so they will move from there to a
place called Samarra. Also known as Alaska.
And Amy is six years later, Hassan Alaska he dies
28 years of age and he dies. So they had been 11 in this particular line. He dies without issue. That means without leaving his son is a young man. He's still a lot older still had not blessed him with children by that time. So when he dies, he dies without issue without leaving a son behind him. The Shia are thrown into absolute confusion at the time. One of the writers alive at this time was someone called hasn't even Moosa and no Bharti. He wrote a book called fear Akashi. He says yakushi means the various groups, sectarianism amongst the Shia. He says at that moment in time, they were 14 different groups amongst Shia, each one making a different claim. Some of them claim a mama has
come to an end, there has been 11 Imams, it's the end of it nothing further. Some of them claim No, no, no, no, he didn't die. He's gonna come back again. Some claim now he actually had a son. Now come the fable of the son.
What he who is that son? When did he when was he born? How did he come into existence? There's about five, six different versions of the story how his son was born to Hudson, Alaska at.
The famous Version says, At once upon a time the Muslim army went for war against the Romans. In the Roman army, there was a princess, daughter of the Emperor. This particular Emperor, they say is a descendant of Peter, St. Peter, St. Peter, the disciple of Jesus.
St. Peter, the disciple of Jesus, some of the other one of his descendants became emperor of Rome. He has a daughter that accompanies the army and she gets captured by the Muslim army. She is brought as a slave she is sold as a slave. Eventually, she gets sold into the house all of her son lasqueti. From this woman, they say, he has a child asked Who is this woman? complete lack of historicity, complete lack of historical corroboration, there has never been a Roman Emperor. That is, that's a decided that a descendant of St. Peter, there's never been a Roman emperor of that nature. That already shows that there is something very, very wrong. Roman Emperor at the time was bezel the
second he is not a descendant of Simon Peter. As for those particular princesses captured, when a princess is captured, he makes headlines history books are completely silent about any Roman princess ever having been captured in that particular way. What is her name, that she also has given her three four different names, some call her energy, some call her souls and some call her Malaika? Each one gives a different name, which shows when we have contradiction of this nature, what does it indicate fabrication? There is a bit of fabrication happening now. In any event, where is this child, no one has seen this child with an eye.
It is claimed that this child was about five years old by the time that his father dies, who no one has seen with an eye and no one can see till he comes back. This is the hidden Imam, this is the Mahi. This is the one that will come back to restore justice at the end of time, with that particular idea of justice, which is specific to the sheikh
Hassan asked, he dies without a son. Therefore his brother called Jafar, his brother comes to collect his inheritance. He's got no other, no other. He's got no other descendants. So the middle of the inheritance world will go to his brother, the she are so enraged at the fact that his own brother could claim his inheritance when they are hard making making this claim that he does have a son, they are so incensed by that what do they do? Eventually, they condemn the person in the character of Java. Now who is this Java? It's not just any other person. This is Java, the son of Ali Al Hadi, one of the Imams, one of the moms, his own son, they condemn his character to such an
extent they say he's a liar. He is a drunkard. He is a Pharisee How can you trust such a person? They say this Yeah, I mentioned a particular purpose. What is the purpose the she claimed to be lovers and followers of Avalon Bay. But when the baby themselves make a claim, when they are alone by themselves say that my brother died without an issue. They say there can't be anything wrong with us. There's something wrong with you. You're a drunkard, you're a fallacy, you are the one who commit sins, you are not to be trusted at all. So there is what there is the annual bait on the one side and they are ideas originated by the Shia themselves, which they are not prepared to distance
themselves from. from that date from the year 260 onwards stole the year 327 328 more or less a period of about 70 years. They continues what is called by the car the lesser occultation. The less occultation, the de basura. What happens during the lesser occultation, they say the following happens there is one point
Who He alone has access to the Imam. The Imam doesn't appear to him all with the Imam does he send him letters from time to time, other than letters.
He's the only one that has access to those letters. And those letters come out regularly, every now and then when they need a letter is a letter that comes out, the mom sends a letter, the first of those person is called off man even sorry, the lambri. The second is his son, Mohammed, even off man even sorry, the lambri. The third one is I will cause him and nobody. And the last one is, I will have some a summary. These four persons over the period of 70 years perpetuate a situation where they have certain rights, and they have a certain kind of access to the hidden human which no one else has. Now we ask ourselves at this point, this is what she has always boiled down to that we
have a representative of the hidden Imam, Where does he live? He lives in Baghdad somewhere. He lives in Baghdad, and he received letters from the Imams, he receives letters from the Imam on a regular basis. So let us ask ourselves, what was that Imam writing in those letters? What what what instructions were being given? This is the mom who does she say Allahu taala sent for the guidance of mankind. This is that Imam whose position is higher than that of the Gambia. This is that he ma'am he is so infallible that he cannot even make a mistake. So when that Eman sends a letter, it must be a very, very important letter. If that Eman writes out something instructions that those
instructions are extremely important for the oma don't look at those letters they are to be found in the books of the shop, all of those latest 80s that so and so hasn't paid his taxes to us, go to Him and ask Him we are those taxes, that person is collecting tax knock in our name, we did not give him permission, he is a condemned person is a Pharisee all taxes must only come here. All that this is all about for a period of 70 years, the sheep are being fleeced of the money, all that monies are being sent away to them sitting there in Karbala and not in Karbala. And
if you ask, Is there any hidden are they even a few massage will being taught is even a hadith being transmitted, nothing of the kind is taking place. All those letters only speak about the collection of funds in the name of the hidden Imam.
Eventually the loss of those people I will hazard a summary. It appears that he had an attack of conscience. And upon his deathbed he said well now the Imam has said there will be no contact with anyone. After this day any longer. There is going to be no more contact between the Imam and the people until such time until the time is right for the Imam to return to this world. In the year 327. somewhere around there. They begins what is called the Heba, Cobra, the great occultation during this period, the she I won't see the Imam at all, and they will wait and they will wait and they are ordered not to participate in any kind of political activity not to participate in any kind
of military activity, they must wait. The doctrine at this time is called the doctrine of India evolve. You must wait you must be passive. You must not be active until the Imam comes while collaroy yet in Kabbalah he
says the Hadith of the Shia, any flag any standard any cause which is raised before the money comes, that is misguidance that is in error. You must wait.
It was all well and good to wait for 10 years. And then 20 and 30 and 100 1200 years 1200 years have gone by. And in 1200 years what has happened, nothing has happened. The greatest calamity struck this oma during this time, and there was no human body to assist it.
This hidden Imam who is there somewhere who was there for the leadership of the oma for the guidance of the oma for teaching the oma all that he was doing was waiting occultation. When the Crusaders came, he was not there to give any sort of any sort of guidance. When the Mongols came and Baghdad was razed to the ground. He was not there to give guidance. In fact, those who claimed to be his followers were in the frontline of those who destroy him.
When colonialism came in Muslim countries fell one after the other stole he was no sign of the muddy. What was happening when you when was it going to happen? They say well, he does have some purpose. It is not for him Heaven and Earth would not exist. The existence of heaven and earth depend upon him. Therefore, even though he was not teaching, even though he was not dispensing religion, even though he was not giving guidance, but he was keeping the sun coming up every morning and the moon setting as well. He was keeping everything intact. So hard Allah is this way a lot of the same guides. When they say like holy cow mean hard. For every people. There is a guide the
awesome User Guide they see the mom is a guide for 1200 years the mama has not done his job, but they are still waiting so easily.
And he will come at some point in time with this brief overview of the history of the imama I want to go back and just ask a few pertinent questions. And also la sallallahu wasallam brought us the Quran. He gave us the Sunnah. And out of the Quran and Sunnah eventually we fashioned the law of Islam the Sharia and our
amongst us there Hello So now we know exactly how things then how the transmission of the Quran came about. We speak today about the Subhan Allah, we know those Imams and who were the teachers and who were the students who were those imams in Makkah there was even coffee in Medina, there was even I'm now here in basava, there was a boy hammer. in Sham there was even Amil and in Kufa, there were three of them, asked him and Hamza and kisai these men who spend their entire lives teaching the Quran to others.
Protecting that Quran preserving that Quran. Where did he start from? It started from Abu Bakr and Omar is other forms even Thabeet started preserving the Quran. It started from automatic law firm all the Allah anon jammy on will preserve that Quran and transmitted to the generation after them. And they do the generation after them, and they do the Imams of table, and they used to lay to their students until you and I are reading this Quran today. Not a word, not a dot, not a haka has changed over all this time, who was responsible for that? The Sahaba of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam, who was responsible for transmitting from them that are behind the laughter, the Imams of
the laughter, until the present day by Who was he preserved by the evolution.
On the other hand, when we turn to the side of the Shia, we find that the she are from the earliest days already we're pointing a finger at this Quran for reasons which you have seen before, because that Quran speaks so highly unloading Lee of the Sahaba and because there's barely anything of the Imams of the Shi are being mentioned in there when they are supposed to be higher than those who are mentioned by name in the Quran in the Gambia. So from the earliest days already, claims were being made that this Quran has been interpolated. The Hadith in the books of the Shia are many today they will tell us Well, those are Hadith and those are hobbies are not authentic. They have changed the
story, but they cannot change what is written in the books of hundreds of the low Lama. today. We are happy when she comes forward and say I no longer believe in the idea of evil Quran. I don't believe that the Quran has ever been corrupted. We are not so happy when the same she says and no she ever believed that. The first part we accept and we are happy. The second part we will say that Do not insult our intelligence we can read as well. When we read into the books of this year, we find that in the early olema with the exception of four or five, everyone else who had written on the issue of the Quran had clearly stated they believe that the Quran has been changed.
This is the preservation of the Quran on the side of the husana that is the preservation of the Quran on the side of the Shia.
There is a book I mentioned it before I mentioned it out again the reason why I mentioned it is because this book is available. It's in English, it's on the market. It's called Kitab al elshad by a shareholder movie, towards the end of this book when he speaks. He says when he comes back one day, he will set up tents in the masjid of Kufa to teach the people the Quran, the ones will find it most difficult to learn the Quran are those who learnt it before because you have to relearn it. What they learned was not right. They have to relearn it now because the money has come back with the original Quran. So these things are there in the books of the Shia, we will not accuse each and
every year of believing that but we will not allow ourselves to be led by the nose and say no theory ever believed this.
On the other hand, we go now the Sunnah of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. The sunnah of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was transmitted to us by who by all the Sahaba the unknown bait include that Olive, olive included. So he the eyeshadow, viola and he included these are all part of the Allenby ignore have been included. So the supernova pseudolus Allah Allah Allah Salam comes to us through many many different channels, the CRC all of those channels are worthless, only the line of the Alan byte is to be accepted.
to create doubt,
about the authenticity of the sooner as we have with him, the she I have developed several mechanisms. One of the most common mechanisms focuses upon the personality of sayyiduna Abu hora Ravi Allah.
Now if there is anyone sitting here, who remembers studying at a gozer back in the early 90s.
You will remember that one day
the uranian m
Whoa Jolla Islam Mohammed muda, we paid a visit to ecosa.
Now here is a what a diplomat, a representative of a sovereign nation. Guest in our country, guest in one of our Institute's where we have all these young impressionable minds sitting and waiting upon him to address them.
Those who are present on that day will remember what did he speak about? He spoke about a warrior. And he spoke about how is it possible for a person like Abu hora to narrate 5000 Ahadi from Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam when he was only there for a few years, two years, two and a half years.
Some of them will go beyond the Khomeini rights in one of his books that Allah alone knows how many fatwas abou hora fabricated from where we are, and he curses the Sahaba they are after
Abu huraira became
a very, very favorite target because of the amount of a hadith that he is supposed to have transmitted.
Because of the amount of time that he spends with Rasulullah sallallahu is a number primarily an account of the fact that on account of the fact that he is responsible for so many are hardy if anyone who studied Hadith will know under the hood, Allah know Kala Kala Rasulullah sallallahu sallam. So if Abu huraira his position can be attacked, broken down and made to fall then the Sunni started South Lou losing confidence in his own Hadith literature.
But let's listen to the reality
what is that reality? We find one of those here and we've mentioned his name before. I've done Jose inshallah foodie and the author of a book which I mentioned he once upon a time El Mirage art, this person is claimed to have been one of those dedicated to the task of bringing together the solution and
he's written a number of books. One of those books is a book simply entitled abou hora.
What does he do in that book? He attacks the character of Satan
and tries to show by everything in the book that this is a person whom we cannot trust. When we ask eventually. Okay, you've said that we cannot trust this person. So show us some of the a hadith that this person is supposed to have fabricated, then it gives us a long list of those a hadith.
And a young men, Sunni young men might take those a hadith and look at it and say, Wow, did abou read all of this
clinical study around this book has found the following.
This clinical study is called Alberto Han fita Bri at the abbey
in defense of Abu whatever
he says let's look at all of those a hadith which you say are fabricated and put into the mouth of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam and each and every one of them you'll find in the Hadith books of the Shia, transmitted by young Jaffa rassada transmitted by Muhammad elbakyan transmitted by imams whom you believe to be infallible, and yet you claim a Buddha is the one who's guilty of fabricating these a hardy is fabricated these ahaadeeth How come your imams are saying the same thing? How come your imams are transporting the very same Buhari? Would you say Abu huraira fabricated they were banking upon the fact that no one's going to look into the books. Just like
last week we saw they say that I don't live in Sabah is a figment of the Sunni imagination. And then we find the Imams of the Shia themselves with this thing to the fact that Abdullah live in southern lived of the light and southern was guilty of those kinds of things. And he and his followers were burned Ballina, Vitaly found in the books of the Shia themselves, they bank upon the fact that you and I are not going to look but Alhamdulillah they are those amongst the older mother Allison, who have the necessary guts will have the necessary determination to go look for it. So you'll find that
Converse she has I mean our communities also they will knock on your door you come into the shop and they start speaking. Not long it will be before someone says, Do you know that Abu hurayrah does that and the other and that she a person himself is unaware of the fact that the finger that is pointing at a point said he is supposedly infallible imams as well. But this is how smokes smoke screens are created in order to mislead people away from the Sunnah of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam as held on to by the Aleutian novel Jama.
By the way, how many are hardy verse a novel hora narrate when we speak about this figure of 5000 or that 5000 figure is Bill mukha rot together with repetitions. If the same Hadith is narrated by Abu ala by one person, as well as by another person, then in the original book that compiled these a hadith that this figure was given this figure of 5000 other hardy
come from a book by yBnL Josie ignol Josie has drawn it from even hasn't before him. Even hazard has drawn it from the Muslim of the Cubana, mclubbe mahadi from Spain, all that it hasn't did he counted all the Hardy in the Muslims of Abu huraira in buckhaven McCullough's Muslim so that is to gather with repetitions. Once the repetitions are removed, it comes to about 2000 100 if it's not 5000 a hottie these 2000 are hardy that's point 1.2 is almost each and every one of those a hardy narrative
is corroborated by another Sahabi whatever whatever narrates
as well. What about hora narrates it generates as well what are
also sometimes corroborating And the last point is that each and every one of those a hottie that she has to forge their own imams have transmitted the same a hadith in their own books. So that entire thing come crashing down. We go on with the history of Hades now remember what this these are in my way therefore they were sent they were equipped by Allah tala to be completely infallible because the abou hora was an analysis and Mr. Mulligan and remember Hadees of this world are not good enough they can make mistakes. Therefore the Shia say we must have infallible narrators. So these infallible natives did they managed to preserve this window of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi
By the time the last of these imams died
the last of these humans died in the year 260. Just before him his father died about six years earlier. In 253, his father died. He Mambo Hari died more or less the same time remember how he died in 256? Mr. Muslim died in the year 261. Now I mentioned this last week I did not get the opportunity to go into the detail of this I'm taking the opportunity now. What What does it mean when you speak about the Mambo Halima Muslim, it means that the transmission of Hadith, the documentation and authentication of the Sunnah reads its Apogee, it reads his highest point never going to be surpassed by anyone. Because of the amount of critical methodology that was applied to
Hades before we could say here is a hadith Sahih Bukhari and Muslim Sahih al Bukhari Sahih Muslim represent the highest levels of critical thinking around historical transmission. The amount of work that waiting went into selecting a Hardee's before they can go into those books.
The book is not what makes the Asahi it's not because the Hadid is in the book that it is. It is because a hadith in Sahih Hadith is in the book, what makes a hadith Sahih five she wrote five conditions, there are we the narrator must be a person of integrity, he must thereafter be a person who have the ability to to, to receive information to preserve that information, and to transmit that information. The third condition is that each link in the chain must have heard that from the link above him. And the fourth and fourth condition is there must be no contradiction in terms of the subject matter. And there must be no internal contradiction in terms of the chain of narration.
That's what gives you a sahadi if you go through a number of a hadith of this nature, you can make 10 23,000 5000 and you put them together that's what makes the book sorry.
So by the time the last of the Imams of the Shia died, the Allah sooner had already perfected the transmission of Hadith Hadees transmission started long before Bukhari and Muslim perfected the signs.
By that time now these imams of the Shia will center which reason to preserve the Summa as well, the Hadith did they manage it within the management? Let's first look at the period of the Hebrew surah what was of man even sorry, and his son, and I will cause him a no Bhakti what were they doing? Were they transmitting any kind of sooner. They were only looking after financial affairs. They weren't transporting any kind of sooner. In by 327 when the labor ended, that was also the time that kulani dies. Abu Jafar Muhammad even Jacobo kulani this now how many years later, 8090 years later, 78 years later after Buhari in them 70 years later, the first
property a book of Hadith appears that is Al caffee of colony, the PSM 70 years after Buhari and then now who was responsible for it, not Mohammed Al Baraka, not Jafar Assad, not only al Hadi, not Hassan lasqueti, not even the hidden Maddie was the responsible person called Abu Jafar Mohammed bin Jacobo Kalani. Then who does he narrated from? Now you would expect his living in Baghdad in Baghdad that the representatives of the Hindi mama living there as well, so it would be a sample for him go to the representative he didn't even hear from him the Habib he because he has it from the Mahi Mahi has it from the Imam number 11
He from number 10. And in that way you go all the way up you got the infallible chain of narration, that is not the case. The case is that mohammedia kobelco lady narrates from an evening the rahimullah Kumi, for example, owner is from his father, when raised from someone else when there is from Surah jofra sodic.
Most of the hadith of Al Gaddafi, his people on the side not of the albite those suppose of followers of the unknown by outside of the line of the Imams, and they eventually link up with him Jaffa saw the link up with him and Mohammed halbach. And the question is, whose legacy is this? Is this the legacy of the unknown by? Or is this the legacy of those who claim to be the followers of the unknown by it? So now we find Bukhari and Muslim and everyone not only writing books, but perfecting transmission collini doesn't even come close to perfecting transmission collini dies in the 328.
Everything in his book, is it authentic? Or is it not Buhari putting a lot of work into authenticating As for collini, 800 years later,
800 years in the 12th century only, for the first time, that she would perform a methodological post mortem of Al caffee of colony. In other words, they will now start applying standards to it. They find that 60 to 65% of our heart, even they do not satisfy the criteria for authenticity. It took them how many years, almost 900 years before they could reach what Buhari so long ago already
Is this the preservation of the sooner
those imams who they say are equipped with superhuman abilities, what those superhuman abilities, the impossibility of making a mistake, the best they could give us is a book which appears post humorously after the man is dead already. The book appears 100 years later, and it takes another 800 years before they can make up their mind as to what is authentic and what is not authentic. Furthermore,
the fact that they are unable, or they we took them so long, to apply those standards of authenticity and tell us what's authentic and what's not. Today, it has become a bit of a weapon on their side. It's become a defense mechanism. When you tell them that Brother, you know, in your book, Al caffee, this hadith is the he says Well, you can't hold that against me because he's not an authentic hadith. So when is he going to be authentic? It seems when the Hadith is in their favor, then it's authentic. When it turns against him, brother, you can't hold this against me is not authentic. All those Hadith that speak about the Quran being interpolated. When you speak about
them, they say, Well, you know, those are by Eva Hadith. Do we have object objective standard, that we can speak about what is authentic and what's not authentic? No, that's something that changes with the wind. Therefore, it's so difficult to pin them down like a little bird. When you come to this branch, you jump to the other branch when it comes to that branch, it jumps to the other branch. We've spoken about the Quran, we've spoken the preservation of Hardy, and in both of those cases, we have found that the Imams of the Shia did not fulfill the task for which they were they claimed to have originally had him arms in order to transmit the Quran in order to transmit the
sooner there was no Quran transmitted by them, the sooner the Hadith eventually came about came about after the deaths, and it took some eight 900 years before they could make up their mind as to what is authentic and what is not. And as a matter of interest, where did they learn this methodology from of how to authenticate history shows.
If you look at the critical methodology of the shear, they have taken the critical methodology of the husana and copied it practically verbatim. Practically verbatim and then they started applying it to their own Hadees. Therefore, at this time,
the 12th 13th century the car split into two groups that are split into two groups, which two groups were those. There was one group that said every odd sigh,
every howdy this, there's no need for any critical methodology. That group is called the Baris. And there's another group that says no, we have to apply a critical methodology. We cannot just say we had either so that group has been called or Soliz in the years 1200 1300 a great fight to rage between the sun between the UK bodies and those Ollie's they used to kill murder one another, each one claiming that we are the property are the other ones saying that we are the property.
We go back to another angle of the legacy of sudo Allah sallallahu alayhi salam, we've looked at the Quran, we've looked at the Sunnah. Now we come to fifth
imaam Abu hanifah Rahmatullah Allah he dies two years after him jofra Saudi when he dies, he student especially Muhammad Abdul Hassan, codifies the flip of Abu hanifa lai Ali, the majority of the Muslim world follows the feet of Mr. Abu hanifa lyerly today,
Mr. Mallika de Lyonne, a contemporary as well. He is fixed
documented in his own lifetime, and then after a continuous tradition up to the present day. Imam Shafi dies one year after imali earlier this year, but he leaves a legacy which lives up to the present day, a legacy written with his own hands, the more favela malegra done with his own hand is with us to up to today's tell the books of Mohammed Abu Hassan are with us up to this very present day. Ahmed even humbles Muslim these waters up to the present there is still a man shaffir is not one book, but several books still exist with us. Some of them even in the original copies, these imants I mentioned these four because he's all the famous ones. These are not the only ones there
are more than them. The point is that they left us a legacy. It was a preserved legacy. And this legacy was written for no king. In fact, these Inghams himself got in trouble with the qualifier of the time, as we have seen before, many of them were punished for it. Three of them at least were less for the particular stances. These were not people in the camp of the hula, these people will no one's combat Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam, they stood for nothing but preserving the legacy of Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, and laying out the Sharia for Hamas so that people can follow it up to the fdmr. They've left us this legacy. These imams on the other hand, was supposed to be higher
than him then ambia was supposed to be infallible, who cannot make a mistake by the time they die. They leave no legacy for the oma whatsoever. What do they leave? It takes another two 300 years before the flick of the car starts taking on a form. And who does he not the rule by those alleged followers of the island by this thing called a Java EE mother. This thing called the fate of the Shia has got nothing to do with it. We were fortunate last week we had a visitor here in Cape Town from Yemen hobby Moosa AlkaViva jofra Sokoloff. Who is he he comes from the city of Theremin hagoromo what family does he belong to? He is a direct descendant of Ali Al already the Selenium
Java sodic This is a son of em Java rassada. He is one there are 1000s and 1000s of them.
And think for a moment this person if his father, his grandfather, his family had a mother of their own, which mother would have been following. What do you follow the malherbe of Imam Abu hanifa Imam Shafi if there was really such a thing as a Java, this is a son of you on Java, he will be following his own grandfather's mother. These people are falling the feet of you I'm sure if you're about to lay
the children of those among the descendants of the mama following the feet by all of these exams of the novel Gemma, not super humans, not super humans, not humans, we have direct contact with a lot Allah who can have elemental whenever they so desire, and this position is higher than the Gambia etc, etc, etc. Some people men, blessed by Allah who was knowledge fallible, use highly intelligent, not just highly intelligent, highly sincere, spend their entire lives for the cause of Allah tala and they left us great legacy of
Eman shafia. He dies in the 204 the year before him, the she the person who that she claimed to be the Imam Ali Baba dies as well. What is the difference in legacy left behind even Shafi leaves a living legacy, a written legacy, a documented legacy that continues up to the present day. It took a few 100 years before the Shah could create a legacy and then fabricate and falsely ascribe it to that particular Imam, those imams of add on by had nothing to do with us, but that particular legacies.
So we've looked at the idea of transmission and preservation of the Quran. And we've also question if Allah tala had appointed a line of 12 Imams, if Allah the lady appointed the line of 12 Imams, what was the purpose in order to preserve they did not preserve the Quran, others preserved it in order to preserve the Hadith they did not preserve the Hadith others preserved it in order to give guidance in terms of faith others did much more than them.
And in order to be leaders of this oma
they were put there in order to be leaders of the oma, the she I will make a very, very strong case they say leadership of the oma is the most important thing. Therefore it's impossible with Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam could leave this world without having clear clearly made it without having made it manifestly clear to people that who is supposed to succeed him because leadership is the most important. They say he mama is the most important aspect of the in why because leadership, there must be leadership. And therefore it is not possible that Allah tala could have lived this oma without an appointed leader who is endowed with a capacity of infallibility and
doubt, with the capacity to know right from wrong. It's impossible they say they if they say he mama is worship Allah Allah, it's worship upon Allah to have this leader
The moment of the suceava at the moment of a death of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. Such an argument in a certain way might make sense. You know, you must have a leader, especially today where we living, the oma is leading us. The oma today is leading us He is we have presidents and kings and prime ministers and all of these things. But I look at the Muslim world will show you that Mubarak is prepared to withdraw his ambassador from Algeria because of losing a soccer match. But when Palestinians get slaughtered in huzzle, then the Egyptian ambassadors remains for that we have don't recall any Ambassador that is a state of the Muslim world today. So yes, we are leaderless. So all
humans of this nature that we must have a leader, a divinely appointed and the divinely endowed leader might make sense. However, I would want to ask the following, if it is so valuable, but Allah, if it's valuable in Allah to have this lead and the oma must have a leader, how come Allah from a Shia point of view I'm speaking now, how can Allah faulted for that from the year 260 up to the year 14 130.
Whereas the ways that leader there has been a leader, what has he been doing? twiddling his thumbs somewhere in a dimension that we do not even know of? When the greatest of calamity start the summer? Where was that Imam? So I asked the question, is this a divine plan? Or is this a human fabrication?
leaders are appointed our Lord Allah for the sake of meeting when the Omar needed at the time of his greatest division. When the oma needed a leader Allahu taala brought Salahuddin Allah UB
when the Omani they lead a lot of abroad leaders of this nature that could bring relief to this Wilma salado people, people who probably had a few sins, little mini books of deeds as well. But Allah took those men and raised them to the status of leaders of those who maroua the lead and porch was retaken. And the Crusaders were driven off our lands. When leaders were required once upon a time when the Dutchman put their foot on Indonesian soil. She uses a thermal halwa tilma Casa he stood up and made jihad against them come as a man come as the hour is one hour that has come that man has still not arrived 1200 years not an hour 1200 years have gone by, is this a divine plan? Or
is this human fabrication? I leave you to make the decision on that.
Many of those would ask the question and I was asked privately this question here that our youth are looking at a series of clips called the arrivals.
And in this particular series, go the arrivals towards the end of it. The idea of a bloodline comes up
the idea of a bloodline and there is an evil bloodline consisting of George W. Bush and his father before him. And I don't know who else is part of that particular evil bloodline. And for that, they have to juxtapose it against another bloodline. And for lack of anything else, they come to the 12 imams. That's where the idea comes in. First of all, that particular documentary, it is
very much part of the conspiracy theory genre. And in conspiracy theories, you must take things not with a pinch, but with the entire sack of salt.
A conspiracy theory is exactly that, just a theory. Now, if there's been anyone here, that's read the novels of Dan Brown, from the Da Vinci Code, to the most recent offering the last symbol, angels and demons, I believe this thing's been made into a movie as well, but we're not talking about them, we were talking about the book.
What you will notice in the book such as he is what he will do, he will collect a whole lot of conspiracy theories from an array of different sources, and then make a very readable kind of thing out of it, and becomes this novelty novel that you cannot put down until you get to the last page. But what he has basically done, he has taken the idea of a blood line from another book called Holy Blood Holy Grail.
The entire thing about the Holy Grail. If you go back to the original French word, sangria, it all depends where you break up the two words, is it Seung Rio, or some greil Holy Blood Holy Grail. So it takes this idea from those particular authors Michael Bagley or someone like that, whose name I forget right now, these people actually sued him afterwards because he says they say he used our ideas. Now, what he has done collecting a whole lot of fable from a lot of different places making into one book, and there you go, bestseller, he makes a lot of money, and you will have a good read. But that's exactly what this thing is here. This thing is the same. You go into a bit of
Freemasonry, you go into both of those
You go into battle, but then you put an Islamic label to it, because the bloodline now, you see Dan Brown had a bloodline, which bloodline Did you have the blood of Jesus. Jesus and Mary got married once upon a time the fable goes, and they had a bloodline and the man of merovingian kings, and it goes right up to well, if you haven't read the book, then you've probably seen the movie, whatever it might be, but they have an ad made bloodline there. So these this particular group of youngsters who made this movie wanted to give an Islamic label to it you find emails like this going about sometimes, you know, they just supplant the word God with Allah says and as Muslim fable, it's a
Christian one. It has been Islam eyes, what happens here? The arrivals also theories that exists out there, take it change the bloodline, not that old bloodline. Now is the same Freemasons the same everything else, but the Antichrist becomes the jowl, the bloodline becomes Now where do we look for a bloodline? Where do we look? Okay, there's Jesus then the Rasulullah sallallahu. his bloodline, what's the best thing to pounce upon? They pounce upon the she ID of 12 imams? I was asked once upon a time. What about the fact that in Sahih Bukhari there's a hadith that says, this Omar will be ruled by 12 men of Quraysh on a sample that cannot possibly apply to the Imams of the Shia, because
they were never 12 of them in the first place. The last one amongst them was never in existence at all. Our idea was proud of our idea about the 12 imams is that there are many moms that had you cannot apply to them. The Shia themselves at that point in time, admitted many of them admitted there is no hidden some. If you will read through the histories of how that Eden some King came into existence you will very soon see it is people who had
a need for money in the pockets who created the fable of hedonism at the time. They were only 11 men in that line. They cannot that cannot possibly refer to them. That Hadith refers to 12 men Whoo, oh man, I was supposed to rule.
Even this road was a little less and less. Let me ask Rasulullah how many men will rule comeon liko harville oma of this line of 12 only to wherever rulers of the oma that has no family and his father, olive natali. Two of 11 that dwells on never existed. It's a figment of the imagination. So what does that even mean?
12 men will ruin the entire oma from the time of the Abbas's already. There wasn't any king that rule the entire oma at the same time when the Abbas's were ruling from Baghdad, the omens etc, but I will khilafah in in Spain, so they cannot be counted in that towards the end of time. When eventually the real Mr. Murthy will return, then he will rule this entire oma and after him they will be his successes as well. That is the entire line of those many will rule the oma, we have seen. We have seen that the very number 12 was never applied to those emails while they were alive. We saw that in the time of the lobbying. What do you say for people only eaten Kohlberg is an
orientalist. He wrote an article called from EMA media to if Marsh area in which he demonstrates that during the lives of these humans, no one ever called him the 12 Imams, the Shia were never known as welders. It's only afterwards that this other claiming that the number 12 every Imam that went along if they knew all along he was going to be 12 How come every now and then they said now that he mommy's not dead, he's gonna come back at the end of time. So these idea foisted upon one another forced down the throats of people to say that we will have so many So anyway, about the arrival. That's our story about it. It's simply a collage taken from a whole lot of different
sources, Muslim non Muslim sources, trying to put together something that might look convincing. If you have a very gullible mind. As for those who are prepared to look through it to see reality behind it, you will find that you have no need to be concerned whatsoever. The Sahih hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu ala Salama, they do give us sufficient guidance on what will happen at the end of time. And that brings us also to the end of our lecture for this week was Allah Allah Allah.
Allah Allah Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi
before he became a political leader, he was a scholar.
What eventually he be is become one of the most recognizable faces of the 20th century remain. So he did certain things. And he might say he achieved certain things which are remarkable. So he will remain that. However, I just want to go on to another tangent on it. I've been speaking about something here that the she are supposed to have waited for the Imam to come Khomeini's, it seems that, you know, couldn't wait any longer. And therefore, he decided to take things into his own hands. And he brought about this particular evolution, that evolution essentially starts because of the Balawi regime, the Shah and his father before him, they had become very, very anti religion and
to pro American, openly pro Western. So the ground in Iran was fertile. It was right the time was right to create bring about a revolution of this nature. And he's managed it. He managed to have that revolution and thereafter contain it to a certain extent. And there you have 30 years later, the Islamic Republic of Iran still stands. So he's basically starts out as a scholar becomes a political figure thereafter. However, within the world of the Shia, within the world of a Shia, there is a Great Rift that goes on up to the present day, that lift is this, what must the she are doing the absence of the Imam for 1000 years and more, the doctrine was, we must not participate in
any kind of political activity. Therefore, for 1000 years, they did nothing. And when Khomeini came along, the alum of the Shia, our split into two camps in Iraq, the leader of the other camp was Ayatollah will Cozumel, Hawaii, his thing was no political activity. And therefore his successor up to up to the present day is Ali Sistani, he has not become involved in, in politics directly, he will give certain forms of guidance, but he will not lead any party or anything of the kind. So Khomeini is a politicized scholar, a scholar who made politics part and parcel of his agenda. And he's achieved certain things they buy the rest of the CRC, that is the biggest innovation. That's
the biggest be the RNC and she hasn't, they are not happy with it. Others don't have don't share the same kind of idea with him. In the recent news for those who have been following the news of reason.
Iran had elections and there was a big question about the validity of those particular elections.
Say the harmony was the successor of Khomeini in his position as well if he made a statement recently, and he's condemned the opposition. He condemns opposition for having done something very, very bad and he threatens violence, violent action against you are guilty of this particular son year. What someone did was in one of those rallies, they took a poster of Khomeini and they tore it apart. He says, How could you ever do such a thing that is an insult to the memory of this great leader, Imam Khomeini, if you find the person is guilty of that, he will get a good punishment. I say Subhan Allah for hundreds of years, the memory of Omar ignore the law on who was insulted year
after year, day after day in the land of Iran. And nothing was said about it until very recently. She complained to the Shia and then they closed down the shrine of Abu Lolo, the killer of obscene Omar. But for 1000 years and more they were commemorating and rejoicing of the murder of a normal everyday, every year upon the anniversary of his death. That was nothing to them, who mainly might have been a great person in their eyes. He will never be of the level of Omar Allah and who Allah The qaddafi Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Logan, I'm embody Nabeel Locanda Omar, if there was an OB after me to have been Omar Coumadin has even come close to that. So while we have we have
respect for a great leader, any great leader, be he Fidel Castro, OBE, Khomeini, ob Evo Chavez, whoever it might be, even if it is our neighbor next door, Robert Mugabe, we have a certain amount of admiration for anyone who stands up against the despot. But isn't the double standards involved here? I think it's a major case of double standards. She I don't know if I responded adequately to the question, but I had a comment on my own to make it that was my comment.
to give you a little bit more insight into your question around the
of the mission, and you may be absolutely an example of what's happening.
And how this would work
on the better, what is contained returns to your opinion, should we do as a
radio show? Is it up to the
up to the leaders of communities and countries who offers
the same position?
Of all the questions you've asked me that is the most difficult one thus far, I don't have the answer, I might have a part of the answer I cannot possibly claim to have the whole answer. I am simply a person who studied Dean and Sherry un*in Hadith. And I think the answer to that particular question requires expertise that goes beyond my own. It requires much more than that. For what I can say, however, the beginning of the response thoughts within the heart of each individual.
What would happen
if suddenly a great leader comes about
suddenly there is a leader who brings us all together, he says, Let's march and the hearts are not ready. The hearts are not ready, they will lag behind Great Leader they will be but the people won't be ready to follow him. So I think it starts within the heart of each individual person, first of all, to make himself aware of the issues that face this oma secondly, to become aware of anything that might be an obstacle in the way of solutions. I'm making specific mention of that, because
those for our particular purposes here, those that continuously propagates, he has an insomnia societies are not part of the solution, a part of the problem. Have that not happened, I can see the way open for us all to stand shoulder by shoulder right now. However, we are a community that fields ourselves encroached upon, I'm not gonna say threatened but encroached upon. So that would be part of the solution. part of the solution we the Hello sooner energy we undertake, let's no longer do this kind of thing whereby you encroach upon me and I encroach upon you.
In the bigger picture, we can always say Amen, we are 90% of the Muslim world, we don't even need you along. But I think if this woman is going to go to any kind of success, anyone who's who wants to come along is welcome to come along, as long as he knows his place.
So it starts off with within the heart of every individual person to look always in the bigger picture, what is in the better interest of the oma at large thereafter to side with those particular
What shall we call them entities that work towards the realization of those greater objectives of this oma in this in this time? That's a very, very broad statement made over there. I haven't identified any particular organizations, because at this moment, who is it from one point of view is that person from another point of view is going to be that person, the broad outlines I might give is going to be for each individual person to start making up his own mind? Where does he want to Who does he want to stand with eventually,
to remain a way of events as they are going along. And those events do not simply mean a few things that are happening locally, or one or two events that are happening internationally, we have to keep our finger on the pulse of the oma internationally, as well as a finger on the pulse locally, we cannot sacrifice the one for the other because what's happening internationally eventually will be influenced by a whole lot of local situations. So will the time available under the circumstances and with my own natural constraints and inability is considered I think those few are very broad outlines are all that I would be prepared to put in front of ourselves right now.
Another question from the lady side.
Question is of the car perform pilgrimage to that which they regard as the game of earlier Viola. According to St. Where is the logo on
at a place called Najaf in Iraq, where the Shia have one of the main sanctuaries where the claim is the grave validly. Vitaly has always been under the spirit, not from today from a long time ago.
To insane I've never thought he was murdered in Kufa, just before he passed away, he instructed his body to be taken away from there secretly in the dark of night. In the dark of night, his body was taken away by his sons sent somewhere where exactly up to this moment in time no one can say with 100% certainty, there are various different versions and the version which exists in the book of the car. There is a lot of conflict about how exactly did they come to discover that particular spot there. The historicity of it can be called into question. The last time I visited this issue was probably 10 years ago, I cannot adequately recall it, but what I remember there was quite a bit of
dispute and it was some two to 300 years later only that this particular spot came to be identified from the side of the aluna. Well, Gemma Some have said and again, this is not 100% verify these three. Some have said that the grave upon which that entire dome structure is built in Nigeria is not the grave off site now even Vitaly, but rather graver mohila, even shorba. Another Sahabi was buried at that spot. Is that true or is it not? I cannot answer. All I can tell you for now is that the matter has always been under dispute. The reason why Satan Ali did not want these grave, or the site of his grave to be known, is on account of the Howard ridge. The howl Ridge were those rebels
who broke away from the army of Ali and then fought against him. And these people, they would leave no stone unturned. They would leave no stone unturned to bring ignominy and humiliation upon the graves of their enemies upon their bodies while they were alive, they murdered say now leaving them your body and after his death, if they had known ways properties, some of the other they would have found their way they and they would have disagreed with his cover therefore he wanted his cover not to be known. So at this moment that she acclaim, it's in Najaf. But there has always been controversy around the sight of the grave of Allah Vitaly while the alarm
told elsewhere the Hadith is that the in the liability harthill Almighty Allah Allah secondly me at the Santa Monica de Du Lucha de una very interesting that you would mention it shape because
the fact that it every 100 years in every century Allahu taala will send someone who will revive the deen for this oma some of the other this runs contrary to the idea of any mama
the mama is what a mama is there must be an aim to keep the world in existence to keep the amount the right path and to to guide them. So if there is an Imam or What's the need for someone to revive the deen to renew the deen every now and then, if there is no EMA, then that becomes a need for for that. So in during the Heba Cobra, from 327 up to the present day, during that time, this year, what did they have? They were waiting for the mom to come. So they wouldn't necessarily they wouldn't look at any, any particular reviver any mujaddid because he said we waiting for the mom, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year, maybe the following year, is gonna come sometime or the other. I don't
know. morozova matahari was one of Khomeini's closest collaborators in the revolution and so on. He wrote a little booklet about this. And he says that the Shia don't have this hadith in their books about the revival of the of the omoide every 100 years. But he says the Hadith slipped from the books of the sooner to the Shia, the other words they learned the hard way from the illusion and therefore they also want to revive and Khomeini is reviving the present time, the mujaddid of the deen. According to the Hadith, of the Shia, it's a realization that when you have waited 500 600 1200 years, then it eventually becomes time for someone to say her No, no, we have to do
something about this. So the Hadith is our Hadith, the hadith of Allah Sana, it ties in very well with our particular point of view, which is that the oma has to take charge of its affairs after Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. From the Shia point of view, it took a bit of it took almost a millennium before they started realizing we cannot go on like this. We have to do something about it.