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Alhamdulillah

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not mother who want to start you know who want to start if you don't want to study

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when our will be low he made sure all the unforeseen I will say Dr. Molina my yeah de la hoffa, who will my daddy when my Young Living level fell into je de la jolla. murshida. Shadow Allah Allah, Allah Allah who luxury gala houfy Allah wa shadow Anna Mohammed Abdullah he was all Ola estafa sallallahu wasallam Allah was far lower shadow of Allah, a masala Ireland early on as have Waterbury in a home via son or

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father Karla Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam Elisa Denali near Vitaly mineralia Lauren who, in Vika masala memories of Nima Yum, Ababa Talia ohata bajo Maho hub uttanasana Hata Anza nobleman, Zilla Tila la Savi

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from McCall Ali Yalla Kofi Yara jhulan mohai bond mafia Ponyo Corleone de molay sofiya wormable Aidan yummy Luciana Ania Ania kutani.

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So the apostle Allah is Allah, Allah Hardy, he was a lump, or sorry, you have no idea. I live in Nevada Yella and who are law

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for many centuries,

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the interaction between

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she

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and her son

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was characterized by a recognition of the fact and admission of the fact that there are differences

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whether one elevates those differences to the level of essentials of being

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or whether one regards them as seeing things that are secondary. As far as our feeder and our Sharia are concerned, the fact is that there has always been recognition of the fact that there are differences.

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It would only be in this belated century

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that the slogan would be raised, that there are no differences between the Shia and the Ulsan. Now

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why would it be in this belated century and only now

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that the slogan would be raised that says lushy? What are Sunni wahconah one? Why is it only now that we start saying that there is no such a thing as a Shia? No, such a thing as a Sunni we are all brothers, we are all Muslims.

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There could be several reasons for this.

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One could be the realization on the part of Muslims themselves that we are faced with a common enemy.

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In the face of a common enemy, it makes sense to have a common cause to stand together.

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It could also be

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the need for the Shiri proselytizer propagator

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to tell his Sunni audience that we are have no real differences between ourselves and use that as a springboard and as an entrance to the hearts and the minds of that Hello sooner whereby to convert them. Both these could be possible reasons. Which one of the two is it?

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Before whenever it happened that the Muslim world was faced by a common enemy. Resistance would be offered by the powers that be and the powers that be in all the past centuries has always been there have always been the Hunter sonowal jamara.

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Back when the Crusaders threatened the Muslim world, it was so fun no Dean sanghi. Before him his father emailed deans and he offered these assistance. At that time, the Muslim world was divided into several different portions. In Egypt there was the faulty meat Empire he empire that was ruling at the time.

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In Syria and Iraq. They were the various Sunni kingdoms united under the hill AFI in Baghdad.

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When it came to resisting the Crusaders. It was these Sunni powers that offer resistance when they got wind of the fact that the she might be attempting to form an alliance with the she. The Crusaders might be attempting to form an alliance with the she are against them nor audiences

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Salahuddin to Egypt and he told him to take over Egypt in order to, to to to create a united front against the enemy that the Crusaders Salahuddin came to Egypt. Egypt was soon taken over the fatimid Empire came to an end they fled from Egypt Egypt became part and parcel of the world of the allisonville Gemma once again and resistance could be offered. So if you look at that time was there any need for saying last year you wanna sunny? There was no need the rulers the powers that be at that time offer resistance from the United platform of the Asana while Gemma

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when the Tatas came the Mongols came once again it was the rulers of the unloosen navall jamara, who offered resistance and eventually turned the tide at Angel node when they were beaten by Kratos and Berbers. So in all instances in the past when we had the United enemy fighting us, resistance used to come from within the village.

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It was only in this belated century. Before we come to our belated century, these powers within succeeded

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by the new power which arose from about the 10th century onwards, those were the Ottoman Turks. The Ottoman Turks had to fight on two fronts. The Ottoman Turks on the one hand were penetrating into Eastern Europe. Islam was spreading 1453 Constantinople fell to Sultan Mohammed Al Fatah, one of the greatest victories that Muslims that everyone sold on Mohammed Al Fatah enters Constantinople as as the victor from there onwards.

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expedition after expedition enters Eastern Europe, all of Greece is taken Bulgaria, Austria many of these parts once upon a time were part of the Ottoman Empire.

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Why, while they were fighting the Ottoman Empire on the one side, they found that they were being attacked from the rear. While they were facing the Ottomans on the one side, they found that they were being attacked from the rear from behind who was attacking them from behind. Ilan had recently, Persia The land today known as Iran had recently been conquered by the Safa weeds. The safavid Empire was that particular dynasty that turned Iran into into a shell and also the shield and before that, they enforced believe in she is among all the people

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send the alumni into exile and exterminated many of them as we have mentioned before.

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And Sha ismar el safavi, the first cheery rule of Iran sent a letter to the

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to the emperor

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of Austria at the time, telling him that it is my wish

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that every Masjid in the Ottoman territories must be turned into a church, you attack them from the one side, we will attack them from the other side. Christians from the one side, the Shia from the other side, and in this pincer movement, we will track the Ottomans and destroy them.

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At that moment in time, what we are trying to point out here is no one was calling for Sunni Shia unity. resistance against the powers of the West was being offered by the Allah so now jamara the car if they were any way they want the side of the enemy in this particular one.

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When 1924 the automatic failover comes to an end.

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The 20th century is ushered in, with all the various changes that it brought.

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We already pass the century into the 21st century, but we go back to the last decades of the 20th century. We find that now Iran undergoes a major transformation undergoes a transformation and metamorphosis it changes from

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the Pahlavi Empire, it changes into the Islamic revolution of Imam Khomeini.

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From this moment, the call for unity is repeated incessantly without and everyone is saying Suchi Sony, this is not needed today. These are not debates that we need to go back to today, the Muslim world requires a united front. This is a noble sentiment.

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This is a noble sentiment is something to be praised to the extent that it requires that he deserves praise. The Muslim world requires a united front against huge powers. It was the age of the two great superpowers. On the one side American is Western allies on the other side.

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Russia and his communist allies and the world of Islam caught in the middle with what do you say? You go with the one side you do with the other side with the capitalists with the communists.

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At that time for someone to come forward and say let's forget about Syrian Sunni. Let's look at the United Front. That is the most noble sentiment, the Praiseworthy sentiment,

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but to go to the extent and say that they are not

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Differences between the shiana and asuna is to be naive.

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There are differences 1000 years and more. One and a half millenniums of differences cannot be wished away in the blink of an eye, there are differences. What we can say, however,

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that it is possible for us to shelve those differences, it is possible for us to share of not to ignore the existence of those differences, but to share them in order to achieve some more immediate purpose. But to ever imagine that there are no differences between the two. That's going to be naive for both sides.

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You cannot wish reality away.

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In the time that these slogans have been raised,

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several things have been taking place together with it. And it is not so much the call for unity that makes us worry, it is what has accompany this call for unity. And that is the expansionist activities of this era, three decades after all us now, that is not just a matter of ignoring certain differences. It is a matter of cap of Kappa, of cashing in. It's a matter of taking advantage of ignorance and of naivety on the part of the listener in order to stay there by the ideas of the car. If it was that the car had come to us and say, Look, we know we have our differences. Let's forget them for now. Let's put them aside for now let's work together. And

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neither will we encroach upon your territory. And you should or should not encroach upon our territory. I think that's something to go for. But three decades Up to now, I have told us that this is not to be, it's not going to be as simple as we have our ideas, you have your ideas, you keep your utility, we keep ours to our utility. And we stand together that unfortunately, three decades experience has shown us that it's not going to happen just as simple as that. It is for that reason that we get together here. It is for that reason that we find ourselves forced to delve back into the classical sources of Shiism, in order that our people not be misled into thinking of Shiism, as

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some innocuous, some innocent phenomenon, between home and ourselves, there are no differences as such, there are differences, those differences, depending of the level of seriousness, and the level of commitment to she is, I mean, it's classical guys that you have within the person. Depending upon that level, those differences will be serious. If the person's commitment to those differences are not that deep, they will be less serious, but we cannot just wish away reality.

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those differences do exist. And those differences, where do they originate from? We've come a long way since the days when we started talking about the concept of imama. Since the days that we discussed the various Iok in the Quran, and we came to discover that there is absolutely nothing in the Quran. Nothing in the book of Allah that supports an idea of Imam along the lines of the Shia believe in it, that is a difference. It's a major difference. If the Shia, he is prepared to admit that now there is nothing in the Quran about him. He is prepared to admit that this matter is not religious, it's more political. If he's prepared to say all of these things and truly believe it, I

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think we've got some kind of foundation to work forward, to work together to stand together. We are not here simply to demonize the Shia and say they are so bad, and that they are so bad. But we have a right and we have a duty to know exactly what does classical theism teach. And if any g today is prepared to come forward, and say that look, I abjure all of that. I reject all of that that's in the books. I have a new idea. I'm a former CIA as a Marhaba. Allah knows you are a former CIA. Do you believe in this? Do you believe that? He says I don't believe in it. I take him at his word.

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But while I take him at his word,

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last week, was it last week, I think it is last week, our last lesson, we had an entire hour and a half if not more of discussing around the issue of tequila. So while I take him at his word, I keep in the back of my mind something else I just keep on my God.

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I just keep on my God, because I know I'm dealing with a people with whom Takia has always been an institution, it is possible that you can get the CA today is not making up the year it is possible. But I have to be careful. So are we here to demonize the Shia. This is not about demonizing the Shia at all. This is about learning she isn't with its mask off. She isn't as it appears in the books. She isn't as they told the people all these years before the need of forming this united front came about. So

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we go back then the difference is a difference in imama. But today we want to speak about something else we want to speak about the personality of the one that was supposed to occupy that particular position of a mama so either

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I mean meaning Ali you have no idea Polly but all the Allahu Akbar.

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Now before we get any further into the personality of alibaba alibaba the alarm,

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I want to mention something and that is that the listener will find themselves in the bit at a bit of a disadvantage.

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Once upon a time we learned something about the car and that is that the she I have something called a Lola while barah love and hate is a love hate relationship not with the same persons, she isn't as it stands, it holds a certain attitude towards certain persons and the exact opposite of that attitudes towards other persons.

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With regard to Allah, maybe Parliament or other certain figures from it has a certain attitude, they love and respect revere them, and they raise them to levels which they never claim for themselves either. By the same token, they conceive all the rest of us harbor the alarm home and at the head of those harbor Abubakar Romeros man on the lower noon, they conceive of these as the worst of people, for which reason they will hate them detest them, curse them, enjoy them, say the worst things about them apply to them certain things which do not apply to them at all inventor than a hog even incidents about them to make them out to be much worse

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than anything that they could ever have been.

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This is what she ism is all about. The two parties are a little bait on the one hand to harbor the alarm on the on the other. The car look at the one party and they love them too but they look at the other party and they hate them. They hate them to the depth of their hearts from the depth of their hearts. We know sooner well Gemma we have in front of us the same two parties. We also see in front of us that are known by the family of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And we see on the other hand, the Sahaba on the yellow on whom with which I was what kind of idea we look at either party when we look at as a harbor on the yellow on whom we say Alavi Allah on home. When we look at the

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albedo, we say this is the beloved family of our souls. Allah Allah Allah wa sallam, we love the one and we love the other. The she loved the one and they hate the other.

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We either and asuna will geomar take into consideration consideration something which our soul sallallahu alayhi wa sallam taught us.

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He taught us balance. He taught us moderation. That same balance and moderation about which Allah Allah tells us worker the indica Jana Come on Matan wasa we have been made this oma of moderation. We don't love in excess. We don't hide in excess.

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But it was inevitable that it would happen in this oma that they would be that would come about people that would love in excess and that would hide in excess. Therefore Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam once upon a time address and even the Vitaly but on the lower

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end he told him Jani

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How do you Hadeeth containing Muslim Imam Muhammad Ali in FECA masala Minar is apne margam Ali, there is a similarity between yourself and say it now is of no Miriam. What is it similarity? excessive love. an excessive hatred? Ababa Julio Hata baja to Maho.

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What a hot button nosara Hata Anza Lu bill Manzella de la la subida the yahood hated ASAP no meriam they hated him he was the massage with a lot of hands into them. When he came and told them in the Rasul Allah he come in, I'm the mercy and I'm Allah Rasool to you. They rejected him. Not only did they reject him, but their hatred of eternal Mercy is of no mercy. Amala Salam was such that they accused his mother of faithlessness they accused his mother of having conceived of a child out of wedlock.

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On the other hand, we live in a society

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that is dominated by Christianity, a society in which is abnormal has become 34th on Earth, a society in which we speak about God the Father, God, the son and God the Holy Ghost, a society in which he Subramaniam has been raised to such levels, which he had never claimed for himself. He doesn't belong to Him. We're allowed Allah had been taken off his throne and he had been put on a throne. Similar to Isa Maryam says, Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam Will you be our honey. In the summer there will be those people who will love you to such an extent that they will raise you to a level which you do not have. On the other hand, there will be people who will hate you to such an

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extent that they will make certain allegations about you. So Olive maybe a palimpsest after that. Yeah, Lee, Kofi rajala and two men, two types of men will come to destruction on account of me

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An account of mean that means on account of their attitudes towards me. On the one hand, there will be those

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who will love him more have been more free on a person who loves him what excessive love

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more him one more free one whose love will be such to such an extent, your car rayvanny Bhima la sofiya, who will ascribe to me such things which I do not possess, who will say that this is the Imam after Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam who said, whose position is even higher than that of all the ambia that particular person on account of whom are the most forgiven by Allah when he invoked his name on account of whom he was saving most hours saved and everything else and all the MBA became MBA on account of the fact that they believe knowledge Debbie Polly, they will be those people in this oma. In fact there will also be those who will say that Oliver Vitaly, forget being

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higher than the Gambia, they will even be those of the most extreme sects of the Shia who will claim that Allah is Allah, that also has happened in history. On the other hand, er Ali Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said they will be also that person who will hate you, because of his hatred of you. What will happen is that he will make allegations about you. Who are those?

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Is that

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Is there anyone sitting here? Who has any bit of negativity? I hate the dislike of alumina, Vitaly in his heart.

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To us, aliona. Vitaly raviolo on who is what? He is the son in law of hospital law sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he is Anita meaning he is the one whose name we mentioned in our hobas He is the one whom we named our children after. He's the one who saved Islam and the Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam in so many battles, nothing negative. We have to say about Satan I live near Vitaly, but all the alohar No, but you know what? That is not enough. For the car that is not enough. How much do you love a sub No, Miriam is Allah Rasool is that NaVi, but that is not enough of a Christian. He won't be happy had that beer mill at home. They won't be happy, until you say along with him that yes, Raisa

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is ignore Larissa is the son of Allah and Isa is Allah. Similarly with a Shia, it is not enough to love Olive maybe volleyball, the alone is not enough to name our children after him is not enough to name his to do to mention his name in the hotbar it is not enough to say Ravi Allahu anhu, after his name, it is not even enough to say Allah is Salam after his name, what is enough, the only thing which is enough, if you are going to say that he is who he is

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wasI your rasulillah you are hollyford to who Billa fossil, he is the halifa of Rasulullah Salah only without any interruption and even then it is not enough, what you will have to say it is implicit in the statement, but you will have to believe afterwards, if he is the one who is the appointed the legatee, the successor of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam it means that anyone who has taken his position is a kafir.

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Therefore, what is required from that side is not that we simply love and respect and obey, we already know that what is expected from that side is that we have to raise them to the exact same levels as the shiana is them merely love and respect is not sufficient.

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In this regard,

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Akira

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Akira is basically four chapters for things that you speak about when you speak about al Qaeda. We speak about what about everything connected to Allah we call that the ILA here.

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And then we have a noble word issues connected to Prophethood. Then we have the summary yet the unseen world that we hear from as little as possible and therefore we believe we believe in Mullah he can we believe in his job and we believe in other of the Cabal and we believe in all of that, that we hear from Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam and we believe in it and the last one is a mama in that chapter of Yama that's where all the differences with the Shia

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come to me discussed

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in that chapter that is extremely important to this year because he mama is what they call the razor dekra of Shiism mama is the reason why she is an exists

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there won't be any she ism if there's no debate around alumna Vitaly Allah and but the debate around Oliver Vitali will inevitably touch up on certain other figures meaningful Abu Bakr Omar of man and the rest of the Sahaba I'll be alone and by extension. Therefore I want to introduce a concept to you and that concept is called monarch him and Martha lib monarchy is where we speak about merits of particular persons, the monarchy of Abu Bakar the monarchy of Allah, in other words, the virtues of those persons, what Rasulullah sallallahu

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It was alum said that is great about that particular person. As far as we are concerned, we say that all of the Sahaba have them and all of the Sahaba have their virtues, their merits. But together with that, they go something else, especially on the Shia aside, there is something else it's called them. The demerits. In other words, the bad things that they believe about certain persons, there is no monarchy, baloney, it has to be accompanied with mythology, and any she rewriter whether he comes from the third, fourth, fifth or the 20 of our present century, which we are living today, any she was going to write on these issues, it is inevitable that he will be touching on the monarchy. And

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the Masonic, he will be speaking about the excellences he will be speaking about the merits and the virtues of annealing, meaning Olive Nepali, but all the alohar No, but no discussion around the monarchy of olive nebuta even of the law and will ever be complete, until it has been accompanied by what are supposed to be the vices of Abubakar, the evils of Omar

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and the evils of man and the rest of the Sahaba. The yellow are known from the first to the last from collini. So many centuries ago to Khomeini in the century that has just passed us now, each and every one of them that is why she is an exists. That is why she is if there was no debate around these things, there is no debate around Libya, Taliban Mama, there wouldn't have been then we could have 100% agree with anyone who says that last year, he was a Sunni, there's no such thing as GSM. And there's no such thing. There are no differences whatsoever. There are differences. And those differences are indeed very severe. When it comes to certain things. It doesn't make sense to ignore

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these things. Be aware of them. And once you are aware of them, and you come face to face with a particular theory person who professes not to believe in them, then there are two things which we can say to him.

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What am I speaking about? If you come face to face with us, he says yes, I believe in the favela. And I believe in the virtues I live in everybody. But I don't believe that Abu Bakr and Omar were were evil persons. There are two things that we can say to this person. The first thing is that you are not he? At least not as she hasn't expressed itself in 1000 years of literature.

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Then you're not as he call yourself by some other name. But you definitely do not like well any you're not like saduak you're not like Sayed Merkava. You are not like a lamb and Haley you are not like mooloolaba cabbage Lisi or you are not even like Khomeini, for that matter. You are something else. call yourself a any other name. call yourself a BA or a Li a but don't call yourself a GA.

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That's one thing that we can tell the person we say you don't believe in if marhaba ahlan wa sahlan. Change your name? Because what if a person comes to you today? He says, You know what? I'm a Christian. What kind of question you ask him. He says, I'm a Roman Catholic. But you know what? I don't believe that Jesus is son of God. I believe that Jesus is a prophet sent by God. And God is a being completely separate. As Are you really a Roman Catholic? Does Pope Benedict actually teach that? No, he doesn't teach it, but I'm different from him. So I say call yourself something else, or the Roman Catholic. call yourself some other name. But don't call yourselves Roman Catholic. So he

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comes he says, Look, I believe that the Old Navy polym is the best amongst is, how about all the low or no, I will tell him, you are different from us the husana. We believe that abubakr is the best if you believe that Ali is the best that doesn't make you a coffee. That doesn't make you a coffee. It makes you different from us, but not to such an extent that we are going to reject you. We can still move along with that. But what do you say about the rest of the Sahaba? And then he says, Well, I love all the rest of the Sahaba and they are good persons, then the one thing that we tell him you notice, you're not an ignatian theory. You may be some other kinds of Shea but not only financially.

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The second thing that we will tell him and we might not feel like telling him this, but this will be sitting in the back of our minds is maybe you making clear

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there is perhaps a third thing that we can tell him also, you don't know enough about she isn't even to know what she is in teachers. Any of those things could be said to that person, call yourself something else stop making tequila, or you are very, very ignorant. You don't know what she isn't teachers.

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On the monarchy of Halima Vitali, by the law on who our airwaves have been filled in recent weeks with a lot of them,

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you would have heard some of them if you had any of those particular gatherings, you would have heard them over the radio if you've been listening to some of them there. And what I want to mention about those particular monopoli been surviving to Vietnam is the following.

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The bulk of them, if not all of them, would be what would it be IOD from the Quran, or would it be a hadith

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most of the things that you would have heard would have been what a hadith I add

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as far as I add from the Quran, our concern

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There is not one,

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not one single ayah in the Quran, which can be taken in isolation on its own strength, and connected to say knowledge who live alone in such a way, which makes him preeminent amongst all the Sahaba and only when everyone else is evil. Allah's book is protected against any such interpolation.

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As far as hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu as far as Hadith is concerned, I didn't say Howdy, Allah, I'm correcting myself. As far as Hadith is concerned, anyone can forge ahead if

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I can sit here now and forge a hadith I won't do it. Because the one who forges a Hadith, he must all prepare his place in jahannam from an kalevala Mohammedan foliot abakada homina. But it's worth in the ability of any person to forge a hadith. How do we know when the Hadith is authentic? And how do we know when the head is not authentic? The first and most important thing we need to do is to ascertain authenticity. Once we have ascertain the authenticity of a particular Hadith, then we look at something else ascertain the correct meaning make sure what is the correct meaning in what context was the set in order to understand what is meant by it? First and foremost, we have to ask

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ourselves, is this authentic?

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Everyone jumps to authenticity when it comes to other things. When salmaan Rushdie wrote his evil book called The Satanic Verses, he wasn't sucking anything out of his thumb. He didn't make up anything. He was going to the books of tafsir in the books of Hadith, inveigh, he found certain reports on which he based the story around which he eventually wrote his Satanic Verses. So we found in the books, but Khomeini was so incensed, so angered was he by it, that he tells Rushdie I'm going to give a factor of death against you. Why? Because he has spoken a lie. What about the fact that Salman Rushdie used Hadith to back himself up? That is a forgery?

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That is a forgery. It's a fraudulent report. Our allameh have been saying so for 1000 years in more than a fraudulent report. Khomeini was prepared to issue a fatwa of not only call for a fatwa of a death warrant against a person was using a forged report and pointing a finger nearby to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam.

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The Hadith of the Shia, the most important Hadith books of the Shia, you can barely find the Hadith book of the Shia that doesn't contain reports about the Quran being changed.

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There are several reports just about any Hadith book of the Shia

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near Matala, Jessa Erie, the author of Anwar and Norma Nia states in his book, that there are something I 2000, a Hadith of the Shira, that state that the Quran has been has been changed. As she about it today. They say we don't believe in it. Why don't you believe in it, some of the Shia believed it in the past, they say because we looked at all those ahaadeeth and we found that they are weak Hardy, they are not authentic. Now the words there is a certain methodology being applied. No one accepts hard even face value. If a hadith comes in it clashes with something which is known to be part of our Deen it goes against certain very basic essentials of our Deen then we reject the

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Hardy Hadid such as that we look at the authenticity of it we look who are the people on this hadith and then we find here's a person who is not trustworthy, we cannot accept such a hardy Hadith is not something which if anyone says Kala Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam then we must immediately accept we must first ascertain authenticity. After having ascertained authenticity. We look there after applicability, we look at the proper meaning we look at the proper context. The context will tell us how to understand this particular Hadith. So there are many, many Hadith, so many Hadith that will take us several sessions just to work through all of them. Those interested can go and look at the

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books on mobile, the mobile app have acknowledged Josie and the learning almost no after yoti and tanzu Sherry Aviv Nara look at all of these places to see the amount of hardy that had been forged in the past about the various pallava or the alarm home. We've heard several of them.

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One of the most famous ones amongst them is the Hadith which states Anna Medina tularemia Ali Yun Babu, ha, I'm the City of Knowledge. And Ali is its guide. Does this appear as a hadith? Does it appear? Yes, it does appear as a hadith Is it an authentic hadith However,

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after inspecting this particular Hadith, Allah ma, ma come to the conclusion that this is not an authentic hadith.

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Now there are two approaches. The one approach is when a hadith suits you it's authentic and when it doesn't suit you is not authentic. The other approach is look at what you have in front of you look at the chain of narration look

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The persons who are writing the Hadees and then whether Hadith agrees with you or it doesn't agree with you. If it doesn't satisfy the criteria for the integrity then it is not authentic. This particular Hadith doesn't satisfy the criteria for authenticity. It is not authentic.

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There is another version of India several versions of this particular Hadith there's another version of it to demonstrate to the reader Hello Sonia well Gemma don't accept the Hadith simply because it suits us. Read you another version of that same Hadith. Anna Medina to Lyle.

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What Abu Bakr in as Sudha warahmatullahi panocha was man who suck for Hawaii and Barbuda. I am the City of Knowledge. Abu Bakar is its foundation Omar is its walls of man is its roof and Ollie is his door that had is also is not authentic. It suits us fine, but it's not authentic. It doesn't satisfy the criteria for authenticity. We reject this hadith is an authentic we reject that Hadith is an authentic authenticity is a matter of objective assessment is not what I like and what you like. There are hardees on the Fabiola site Nabokov Allah Hondo

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in Allah in Allah, Allah yo malkia Mattila nasci ha sir. Linares Yama, Willoughby bakunin Hansa, on a day of the AMA Allah who will appear to all people in general but specifically to Abubakar viola, we see that he is also an older that's also a forgery, not because it is about the boubakeur but because who's narrating it? A known liar is narrating it. So when a known liar tells me something which suits me fine, it's still a lie. It doesn't stop the fact that it is a lie.

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Our friends from the other side of the camp, other sides of the divide, they look at the Hadith. Anna Medina Talal Malian Bhagwati hold on to it.

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This is the Hadith that Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam is a city of knowledge. Ali is the doorway of knowledge, no one can come to the city except through this doorway. So for 23 years Tell me what was recited Allah sallallahu wasallam doing and who was he teaching and what was he teaching them? Why would he tell us in certain case, cases that if you want to learn the Quran, you're gonna learn it from her from Abdullah evenness? Why would he tell us this oma read akara ogam obey Yamanaka. The most learned copy of the Quran is who obey Allah Gambill halali or harami Muhammad no Jabal Why would he tell us all of these Hadees? Why would he send some of his own Sahaba in his lifetime to

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certain parts of the world go and teach the people there is that person also not a source of knowledge? If this hadith had been, if this hadith had been authentic, what would we say? That if this hadith is authentic, yes, olive maybe a polyp is one of the most learners to harbor but not the only one. There are many learners to harbor unfortunate. Fortunately, we I No need to give this particular understanding to the Hardy because it is not even authentic in the first place.

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Throughout the history of Islam and Muslims, there has always been this undercurrent of persons doing one of two things, inventing a hadith about Oliver Vitali and on the other hand, taking certain other hardware out of its context and making something out of it which also to la sala la Harley you earlier he was alum never intended. So we will look at some of those statements. This was one the Hadith is not authentic in the first place. Had it been authentic, it still doesn't harm our position. Because let's take one thing as a rule to ourselves. We don't fix become fixated upon one little dots sitting on the wall and forget about the rest. We take things into full perspective we

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don't look at one eye and forgot forget all the other if we don't look at one Hadeeth and forget about all the others we don't look at one person and forget about all the others to this era is different to this era to express it in the simplest of terms is like this, because Ali is good, the rest are bad. to us. Ali is good and the rest are good as well. There are several a hardy that speaks about the Fabiola Ali the excellences of Ali and about the rest of the Sahaba to the Shia via bronchi sample all the Hadith about Ali are automatically go the Hadith authentic hadith and if there is anything narrated by anyone else about Omar and about of mine and about Abubakar that's a

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lie automatically it's a lie simply because Ali is so good that no one else can be good along none of others or Harvard or the low Imam can be good along with him. It is because of ideas such as this that they find themselves forced into a corner times how do you then explain the fact that he names his sons after these three hola How do you then explains the fact that Ali is the closest advisor to these the hola how they explain that

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Allah gives his daughter to these the whole lover and there is only one answer and that is stuck here and that he has no answer that he is an insult to the greater noble character of ameerul momineen Allah Vitaly brother Allah and

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so sometimes it is a hadith of this nature where they say that

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they invent certain things about Allina Vitali, there is a theory of it is called ignoble Hadid. He wrote the Shara buco Nigel Bulava is a writer writes a commentary on natural Bulava in this book.

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He says that the first emergence of the phenomenon of hudy forgery was amongst the Shia they were the first ones to start inventing a hadith about Olive Nephilim and then there were others who counted them and they started inventing a hadith on the other side of Abu Bakar below are no we

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have no need to look at first a hadith What

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are you throttle Mustafa mabie hemo hajah tone Illa Sava Isla Bonita atoll caribee the family of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam have no need for any kinds of merits which are built upon lies. The family of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam is sufficient for them that within their veins flow the blood of Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam the followers the Sahaba labia monome sufficient for the excellence and virtue is the fact that they were in the company of almost of our sallallahu wasallam they stood with him or her than her nine they stood within a bar and double sufficient for them anything else forgeries Do we need to make someone who's already great beyond

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any kind of perception that we can have? Do we need to make him blade by forging certain things about them? We don't need any of that. What Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam stated was about the Sahaba the Allah knows about this a little bit on the low on them is sufficient to us we don't need to turn to lies. Then there are certain Hadith which Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam did make about the above the personality of alumina, Vitaly Ravi Allah we look at a few of those a hadith in the diamond three main source, which I don't think is very much, but let's just go through a few of them. There are some Hadith which are 100% authentic, some of them which are somewhat disputed where they are

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authentic. What is the proper understanding of them? munken to Mola Mola. If I am your mala then Ali is also your Mola. What does Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam mean thereby another Hadith? Under mini demons Isla de Haruna Mimosa, Allah you are to me, like Harun was to Moosa hardy is of this nature What do they mean that

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you hate Billa Rasulullah Well, you hate bola rasuluh

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metallian Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said during the Battle of labor tomorrow I will give the flag to a man who loves a man is Rasul Allah and is also love him in turn, and then he gave that standard to Alina Vitaly, these are authentic hadith. What does Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam mean thereby I've mentioned only three or four. Let's go through them very quickly, man come to my hula who finally Humala.

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the authenticity of this hadith is somewhat disputed. By and large it is accepted that as a reliable Hadith there are some versions which are not reliable, some versions versions which have some tails added to it. by enlarge the Hadith, cumulatively seen by looking at all of his various different strands we can accept this hadith is somewhat possible. But what does Rasulullah sallallahu taala mean when he says if I'm your Mola Denali is your Mola. We need to quickly go back into history.

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In the seventh year after the seventh year. Rasul Allah sallallahu wasallam sensei Nalin, Vitaly of South Yemen. He sent him to Yemen for Dawa and to govern Yemen and to conduct whatever activities had to be conducted over the wivalley and everybody was there there were certain persons who were not happy with the way that Allah was dealing with things and they were clamoring and murmuring amongst themselves that no this is not right. And that is not right. And they said we're gonna complain to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam baseless accusations against Olive nebia Polly

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Ali came then in the ninth year to join Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam during the Hajj. Rasulullah Salam came for hygiene the ninth year, these people try to come to Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam during the Hajj to come and complain about Ali. Hassan doesn't listen to any of their complaints. He is very busy with his Hajj on the way back from Makkah to Marina. He stops at a place this place called hadir. Home there is a pond over there is called upon the home hadir home they he stops and he is headed up to here with these people complaining about alibaba alibaba the low or no and he wants to make it clear that these byte baseless accusations have no place. He is free from any such

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accusations and he stands in front of the people and announces to them what is your attitude towards Ali? If you look at me as your molar then you must take Ali's your Mola as well. If you don't have Ali's your mole, I'm not your Mona. That brings us to the question. So what does so you know Mohamed Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam mean when he says Mola acid

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He is his master. Mola is the one who has authority over you mobilize the one to whom you must submit yourself he is your ruler after Rasulullah Salam is gone.

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If you want an answer to this question, what is Allah sallallahu taala mean and why he had the choice of this word? Don't look anywhere else. Look at the unknown by Fabiola horn home. Abdullah Abdullah Hassan yBnL has an acknowledged Navy authority. Olive Natalia had a son called Hassan, he had a son called Hassan again, and he has a son called Abdullah Abdullah Hassan al muthanna. Someone comes up the line and hasn't asked him that easily through the Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said about your grandfather Ali that Manu Mola Mola.

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He says yes, my grandfather said so Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said so about Allah Vitaly. So he says, so why are people not accepting Ali as their Mola? Why are they accepting that he alone was supposed to be the halifa Abdullah Al Hassan says brothers, listen to me. He says you must know something. Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was

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the most eloquent of the Arabs. If anyone knew the meanings of words, it would have been Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam. If he wanted to tell people that I'm appointing Olli as my successor, he would have done it in such language that leaves no ambiguity. No one would have any cause to say but what did he mean? But the fact that he chose words such as molar, which has at least 10 different meanings, and in this particular context, which meaning is the intended meaning, people were complaining about Ali, they were expressing dislike of Ali, they're expressing hatred of Ali Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam is telling them if you don't have

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a an attitude, a benign attitude one of love and friendship of holiday Vitaly, then you don't have any such relationship with me. And even if he thought he was close to those little lasala launius alum, you have a problem or you have a problem with me that's what it was Allah sallallahu Sallam is telling these people from Yemen who came to complain like this. So I have to learn who hasn't is telling the person if Rasulullah sallallahu to speak up khilafah if you want to speak out who must be the college I would have said in clear terms. The fact that he chose to use ambiguous terms should be reason enough for you to understand that this Hadeeth doesn't mean it doesn't mean what

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you think it means. Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam would have been much more clearer than that.

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In the 10th, year after the hegira, the following year after this Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam takes the Sahaba on a campaign,

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one of the most difficult campaigns ever debulk for the first time, the Muslims would face an enemy unlike that ever faced before. Before who did they face they face Quraysh they faced they faced a few desert tribes for the first time they would square off against an international superpower the Romans, the time came for Islam, to start taking steps outside of the Arabian Peninsula.

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Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam answers to everyone we are leaving.

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What kind of time is he leaving at a time just before the harvest and just before the harvest. If your heart is attached to the dunya you don't want to be in battle you want to be here. You want to be in Medina to harvest this was a test of a man. All these are harbor all the aluminum put down the names we are all going. Three of them remain behind thinking that we will catch up later. They eventually did not catch up later and by setting things out and by putting it back they eventually Rasulullah saw some came back and they still were not there. Those three they story is known in the Quran, Allah had forgiven them. But aside from these two groups, the first group that went with

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Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam including abubaker and Omar and Othman. All of them went sign of Eman.

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In fact, of man ignore Fern Ravi Allah on that day, equip half of the army from his own wealth at a time when no one had anything Rasulullah sallallahu sent me saying who is there to equip this army of man says Yara sola Allah, I will equip this army half of half of what you need of horses and weapons from my mouth, I will give you Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam sends up tears in his eyes. And he says Ma, Ma Ma Alibaba do nothing that was man can do after this. They will do him harm. So high is the deed that he has done today.

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And they all go

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but Medina needs to be taken care of automatically staying behind and three movements who are weak in the demand for that moment and one other person stays behind to govern Medina in the absence of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he is alive now Vitaly Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam says it you stay behind?

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This is very difficult because everyone knows that only munaf extends beyond at a time like this. And Holly is written What are people going to say about

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I've been there for but I've been there for all. I want to be there for this one as well. I don't want people to whisper behind my back that day goes anymore now. I want to be there

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as I was in the frontline everywhere, and Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam consoles him and tells him Oh Ali you to me like how Ramos tomasa I'm not leaving you behind because I suspect your Eman. I'm leaving you behind like musar left Harun behind to take care of things in my absence you are to me like Harun wants to Moosa if ever it was the intention of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam to tell Ali that you are my successor after me he wouldn't he would not have said you are to me like Harun is to Moosa because you know what Harun died before Musa Harun died and Mossad is still alive. If Allah sallallahu Sallam wanted to say that I want you to succeed me after I'm gone, you would

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have said antamina demons, you Shami Moosa, you are to me like Joshua was to Moses, you ought to be the user because he was a successor.

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succession wasn't intended. What was intended was to console the sad heart of alley, don't think I'm leaving you behind for the wrong reasons, and leaving you behind because you are to me, like, how long was the Mussa? That's the only reason why I'm leaving you behind to take care of things while I am gone.

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A few years prior to that,

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a few years prior to that during the Battle of fiber in the seventh year after the hegira

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there was there were several fortresses in Hebrew, and the Jews were powerful. That was the economic center of the Jews and Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam marched on a bar. And

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there was a certain photos that was holding up. This fortress was holding out very, very strongly, wasn't submitting. All the other photos were capitulating, this one wasn't. So he took the flag and gave it to Abubakar on the alarm, and he would take the tag that photos, Abubakar vilano comes back at the end of the day, he did not achieve victory. The second day he gives a flag to Alabama to homerville hotdog or the alohar No. He comes back and he did not achieve victory. On the third day, he takes the flag and he says tomorrow I'm going to give this flag to such a man that Allah and is also love him and he loves a line is rasuna then he gave the flag to Allah Vitaly.

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The context. What are people saying? What are the she saying they say you see, giving tobacco the first day he didn't succeed? Why not? Because he wasn't man enough. Gave it in secondary to Homer gave it to him why he wasn't man enough. He is a coward. He cannot even take over one fortress. In fact, there are certain versions of the story that say that when Omar came back the second day, he started telling everyone don't go to that for you can't be that one. And he started

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inspiring people of cowardice.

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You look at the chain of narration of that one they said Sir, very conspicuous she a person in the chain of narration is thinking a well known story and changed it slightly to make Omar seem in a bad light. All the other stories say that the first time in Abu Bakar when do you think that historic victory came on a third day simply Holly went there in blue at the fortress? No, the attack on the first day weaken the fortress. The attack on the second day weaken that photos even more, until eventually victory was achieved at the ends of the third one. If Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam thought that Abu Bakr and Omar were cowards. Why would he Why would he have given them the standard

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on the first day and say go with him in the first place. As for the fact that Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said that I'm going to give the flag to such a person that Allah loves him is rasulillah salam love him. This was because they were manavi teen who was playing at that time Oliver Vitali was lying ill he had an illness in his eyes. He couldn't see properly in front of him. And he was not there on the battlefield and people were whispering ways early. He's a coward. Sinhala Vitali was the object of malicious rumors from the manavi inside, but not him alone. Everyone else even Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam was an object of the malicious rumors. So when people were saying

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certain things, he was gonna make it to them very, very clear. Oleanna Vitaly was a man who loves Allah in his resume. And Allah and His boss will love him. So any rumors that people are splitting Forget it. Allina Vitaly stands most hi in the sight of Allah is also his beloved to Allah is Rasul sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. As for Abu Bakr and Omar, where do they stand? We are not people who believe that the merit of the one necessarily reflects badly upon the other. We all know people who believe that olive oil is good way for Abubakar Omar, everyone else is bad. That kind of approach to history is a very very myopic approach where a person only

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He's what he wants to see these few statements that I've mentioned about the vial of olive nebuta not the only ones, and I haven't I've barely mentioned anything about the vial of the rest of the Sahaba with one image, Marian. When you think of the Fabiola Valley, when people start quoting the Fabiola Valley, say Allah Rossi Well, I can say I'm glad on my hair in my eyes alumna Vitaly is one of the greatest men that is the avenue but his greatness doesn't mean everyone else is not great. If azula sallallahu Sallam said certain things about him the Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam a certain very positive statements about the rest of the Sahaba the aluminum door and when he was on his final

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deathbed, he would not accept anyone to stand on his musala except Abubakar Ravi Allah No. So Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salatu Hadith are not only to be seen in isolation, we have to see it as one coherent whole, everything that's authentic in there. And as for that, which is not authentic, whether it refers to abubaker to all mortals, man too early to eyes.

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If it's a forgery, it's a forgery. We don't have any need for forgeries in this Deen of ours. There is so much to discuss. Time doesn't leave us with sufficient we don't have sufficient time to go into all of these details. What I want to leave you with now to sum up everything that we have seen today is that she isn't exists.

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The branch of she hasn't that pertains to EMA. It exists upon a corner upon a complex of monarchy and mythology. monarchy means what the excellence and virtues are one personality and my family the evils of another friend that used to come every week and ask ourselves questions. The one with the one week when we mentioned just some not all just some of the statements which he army. He said those were horrible, horrific statements. He is they are horrific statements, but they belong to something which is part and parcel of Shiism, it is all those methylene those demerits kind of things. There is no Shiism without metallic. They can be no Shiism, without saying that Abubakar,

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Omar, and Othman, and all the rest of the Sahaba are bad. Those are things which we cannot wish away. They are there for as much as we wish to say that there are no differences between the Shia and alesana. That's wishful thinking is not going to lead to the building of any solid bridges is going to be it's going to lead only one thing. Amy Raj will not send me Raj Hata Elijah aho lamea Jade Jose, Wawa de la harinder. Our fellow haisa, who won low SETI on his a mirage is such when you stand in front of it following following unicam in front of it, you will find there is nothing What do you find that at the end of the meal, you will find Allah have the end of it. And Allah is the

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one that you will have to answer to. And Allah is one whose punishment comes very, very quickly, very, very swiftly. So when we start creating these kind of false images, let us not fool ourselves. At the end of the day, we still have to answer to Allah tala, we still have to tell a lot about why we adopted such terrible attitudes towards the Sahaba. Why we left and why we did nothing, when the memories of abubaker Omar Ayesha hafsa, was being insulted amongst us why we left no so we are it is our duty, it is our duty to defend the memories of those persons. If it means that we're going to try and perform the dose of the Shia, then we will end up on the toes of the Shia, but we will not

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allow the memories of the Sahaba or the Alon on to be daanish that is more important to us than any ill gotten ideas of unity today. Unity is but not at the cost of this unit. Yes, if you will, if you refrain from all of these things, by all means we are prepared to go ahead if you refrain from propagation by all means we are prepared to go ahead shelve those things and do it for all the right reasons not the wrong reasons, shall we? And then we could perhaps work together we The sooner we'll do so in a spirit of

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10 tentative

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tentative agreement. He says it's possible to work with you but we will always suspect your motives. In our Deen there's no such thing as stuck here. In your DNA. Something is stuck here. You might reject it. This doesn't go for every theory. We have to be on our guard Tawana al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa sallahu wa salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad

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wa ala alihi wa sahbihi Marina al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen

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would you say is it from authentic sources

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what is said about that is it once someone's spat into the face of a liberal thought of using a battle and then he did not become angry on account of it and therefore, we say about him Corona La Jolla. I honestly at this moment I don't even recall where it is now he did I will have to go look at that. My memory fails me

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This moment so inshallah at some other occasion

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caramelo May Allah honor his face I think that the reason why they after became a very famous statement is because the she made a point of saying highly highly Salam so no sooner to show from the other side that we have nothing negative to say about Alibaba we thought they said Quran Allah Hawa

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they were those obviously the How are each in a time of say Alibaba Vitaly, remember we said that there will be two kinds of personal Rasulullah Salah some predicted there will be those who love him take steam and 18 to the extreme will ascribe certain things to them. We actually didn't get into that. That was the Hawaii What did they say about aluminum vitani they said he's a kafir now the will the Hawaii he said that he was a copy of the aluminum foil Gemma in the middle. He is neither a god noise a curfew he is the fourth of the whole of our regime.

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Ladies

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and

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Gents

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and then he's

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now

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of course,

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he was the

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CIO,

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because it's

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possible to

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sleep with

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a person.

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You must remember one thing about those persons, they had not even seen Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam by that time these were Yemenis Ali was sent to Yemen for Dawa. He brought these people into the fold of Islam. They had never seen Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam up at that moment in time yet, and they did not know how close was Elena Vitara Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, they saw certain things and understood in a particular way. During Hajj they came they tried to complain Rasulullah sallallahu did not pay heed to it. When he eventually he made it clear to them the very Sahaba Who said I was the very person who said I used to complain so much about Ali when he heard Rasulullah

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam saying those words and he recognized who is Ali and what is Ali? He says from that day onwards, Ali became the most beloved of people to me afterwards. Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam this was a new Muslim. After that moment in time he had not even met Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam all that he saw was here's our leader he's doing certain things remember this man? He just became Muslim. He doesn't even know what the Sharia is all about. Elisa learn as a hobby. This person does certain things and or Alabama does certain things this person out of his ignorance. He doesn't understand what is right and what is wrong. He wants to go and complain to the sudo la

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sala la alum. But the moment he is the right thing from there, he says if this is what Rasulullah sallallahu said let me say that I accept it as well. He loves leaving me with all this out after that.

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The ladies

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in question on the lady side

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we actually haven't got into yet the mythology. Now, you know the demerits the negative things that they say about this harbor all that we looked at tonight, kind of introduction and then we looked at certain instances of Fabiola Halima Vitaly, some of which are authentic, some which are not authentic, but we try to contextualize, put it within its context, then what's equally important to the Shia, is that together with the merits must be the demerits. They must say Ali is the one the only rightful claimant to Hilah because he is this and he's that and is that and what about those who actually did occupy the seat of the khilafah they are not worthy of it because and then the

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reasons will start coming, it is probably inevitable that we will have to visit some of those things also as distasteful as it might be. But we need to know what people say about the Sahaba the alano and what our responses to all of those things are. So tonight we've only done a framework of inquiry and then applied it only to the side of the monarchy the mythology will have to come sometime in future inshallah.

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Also push

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these rules to say that no person live in London.

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is proper to say central Hossein was infallible.

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infallibility is a quality that a lot of that given to the unbeliever saddam only, and that for a particular reason, if you're going to say Hussein was infallible, why infallibility? What's the proof of that infallibility. He doesn't raise upon any solid kind of evidence. And in the Sharia there is no need for you. As far as we are concerned in Islam the ascription of infallibility to anyone other than say now Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is an innovation it has no place in Islam. Not to say not too early not to Abubakar not to hamanasi anyone else for that matter?

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Let's go to the last question.

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Follow him on

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observation

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but I don't think that the the message of creating awareness about the dangers she hasn't really coming across too many

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are still some

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that just stole from the different members that are sent to the communities Why all of a sudden, is there now? Attention roaches. In fact, I said on Sunday with a brother

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what's the mom said? And then she mom said some of us you think that you know why?

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Attention go to here are so many other things that we can focus on. I knew that one of the reasons why this class was established. It doesn't have to come with the

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equipment itself and go back to the community spirit.

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There are certain crystallized attitudes to what she has in our community. We cannot deny that amongst the general public amongst the olema among the Imams as well. There are certain people who have staked their

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reputations upon the adoption of a certain attitude towards e ism.

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It happens to be the case that much of that

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is not founded upon a very good understanding of Shiism,

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it is not an easy thing to tell a learned person that you need to still learn further. And it's not easy for them to admit to their communities either. When they've staked their entire reputation and 20 years of service upon a certain it's not an easy thing to say. It takes something for a person to say that look, I need to go and learn. If tomorrow someone is offering a class in some other kind of visa, which I have no knowledge of the fact that I'm sitting on this chair today doesn't mean that I mustn't go and sit at this place where you're sitting tomorrow. But the fact of the matter is, but as it may be, everyone is not going to come. We can only do as much as we can.

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As for those who have an alternative opinion, if they want if they wish to continue basing their opinions and attitudes upon the kind of unconvincing grounds that it has been resting up to. Now we can do it, we can't do anything about it. But if they are prepared to back it up with some kind of evidence, if they are prepared to back it up with some kind of solid, alien solid knowledge, then we are prepared to engage it. If someone says she is not a threat, let me know why. And I won't say why I feel that it is a threat. If someone says there are no differences, I think we are in a position to demonstrate very ably and very convincingly that there are differences.

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mirages are not going to help us wishful thinking is going to help us but as for those you know, we cannot at the end of the day force everyone to come here those who want to learn how to learn those who do not want to learn such as the

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Shall I call it a freedom Can you choose to be ignorant, perhaps

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is really the release a CD is

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rated quite a number of copies. The latest edition CD eight teaches a class one one for each one of you teaching each other in the future in the future, we will see 100 copies

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so we all numbers of three people sponsor to sponsor a

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15,000 common grooming for the sponsor and of responses and then within this three weeks, you will

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100 copies of shop are all in the past the past is a couple of weeks each from one to two inches and obviously we have picked up in some of the additions

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That is a

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misprint on creativelive we print over again and this one I noticed the book edition but I hope that you will find it focusing but showing up on things

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shipped to you want to know

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I probably wouldn't be

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as happy

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there is a possibility Roland may not be here

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scholars to this

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way now remember the last question was in previous lives he was

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supported by some other interview so please stay away

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from somebody else might be

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someone I might not be I might be as though

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there's a possibility that I might some of the other contracts to be just on monitor photos community but early on

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Had this been anything but she ism had this mean anything but she is a no one would have had a problem. Had we been sitting and talking about the highs and qadiani is no one ever had a problem. But she isn't gets special treatment.

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You can touch on anyone but don't touch the car. That seems to be the case right now. Otherwise, why? Back then in the 80s when we were fighting the qadiani case many of us when perhaps some of us wasn't even born yet but there is that might remember who was saying but qadiani so colossal remains of you know all of us were united. You know why? Because the Guardian is don't have a state of their own. They don't have any Islamic Republic. They just the group that lives here and love then there was a few amount of innovative ideas and so when it comes to the Shia, everyone, not everyone, some of us become oversensitive and why are they speaking about the Shia? No, we have to speak about the

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Shia like we have to speak about everything else. We have to speak about the car because we are the Hello son. For the same reason we have to speak about the Baja is for the same reason you're gonna have to speak about the qadiani for the same reason we have to speak about everything else. These are threats that exist within our community. We have to take them up and we have to deal with them.

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Chicago

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we have all your shoulder this summer. So whatever happened we'll see who is in this job

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because we love him, love him. We want to show love