Uloom Al-Hadeeth – 02

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Shaykh Bilal Philips, Uloom Al-Hadeeth recording on 12-05-2001, Episode 02

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He found this in manuscript form in India, the archives. And we published it, edited it and republished it, you know, so that has survived, you know from that time.

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Anyway, it's an almost eight of his students are down at least from him. And I said the Malik 16 of his students had a decent return form from him.

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I should have been a backer, three of our students had had his Emerson form. When I bought nine of his students recorded heavy jazz if not the left, 14 of his students recorded. These are beside alpha three, none of his students recorded it even most of the live unless none of his students recorded it. But of the live and the last seven of his students had a decent rhythm form. Omar Al Khattab wrote many hobbies in official letters, he didn't so much have students as he was the leader of the Muslim state. So what was conveyed from him which people received was the official letters, etc, achieve

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growth, even have a solid eight of his students recorded a decent writing

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class and he saw me students are in the possession

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of some of his ideas, sorry, were in possession of the live in ambass inform he said it under a boozer

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and a barrage arrived in Isaac, he was also known to dictate his narration to his students. So we do have some companions who didn't have students who wrote down aboriginality students. And they did narrate a number of holidays, but they were not in favor of writing of headings, you know, so there were some components for it, but the vast majority are in this 12 really only two of them two out of the 12 discouraged or didn't want anyone to like Hang in

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there. The reason for that was they

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either

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themselves, because one of them who didn't allow it outside and he was the one who narrated it

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and said don't write down anything from me besides the Quran.

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Right. So he took that in the literal form, right, and he stopped by

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the live in must own. His reason exactly was just that he preferred the students to

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learn from him through memorization, he favorite the method of memorization, and that he felt that

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writing you know, was too easy, it just made the gaining of knowledge too simple. So he preferred his students to memorize, but the vast majority of the companions have said, they in fact, had students who wrote down Hadees as well as memorize and these students in turn, they then conveyed the information in the written form to the following generation, the generation after them, this is the fourth level, this is known as the tabular, tabular,

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tabular, tabular, tabular meaning follower of our successor. A tabular index is the plural form of tabular. So, it means the successors of the successors or the followers of the successors. Now, if you want to translate in English, and

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this represents the final stage, in the narration of ideas, where individuals were narrating from their own books and collections was from the Sahaba of the Sahaba. We have their students and we have the students of the students and Zahava, the students of the students this represented the last link in the chain of transmission.

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From that point onwards, you found now headaches were collected into major collections and handed down more in the written form than in all directions. From this grid. We have the the

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oldest work to have survived and been handed down to us and that is a lot more thought of a man Malik, who was the Imam of Medina, and his grandfather was a Sahabi. His grandfather was himself a companion of the Prophet Joseph Stalin, right. So as you can imagine, the distance

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Between the buzzer solemn. And what he narrated. And those who made the final collections was not that far, though they refer to it as the second century. In fact, the Sahaba existed a number of them existed almost to the end of the first century.

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And the second century, I mean, they had students that were in they were in the latter half of the first century, and they live between the first and the second. So there really is the gap of time between problems or solve them and a complete recording of his hobbies, in fact, are was very short. And we can and has been stated that the vast majority of the hobbies were written down in the lifetime upon the person themselves. They were handed in the time of the Sahaba, to their students and the, and they continue to be in writing, but it just wasn't compiled into individual texts. So it's really the generation of the tablet savvy, and the one which came after them with the commonly

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called the generation of the Sahaba. Or the era of the say, Hey, this is the third century. This is when you found the books of Siam Bukhari, Sahih, Muslim, Southern mabhida wood and these books, you know, came out.

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This is where the major writing took place. And the number of Hadith durations by this time were quite

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a lot. Mr. Bahari, for example, himself, his collection of hobbies, you know, contains

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7275 hobbies. And this is with repetition. Actually, if you cut down those, because what we would do is like, he would take a narration, he would narrate the portion of it in one chapter, and another portion of it in another chapter, some with some overlapping, right, because one portion was relevant to one issue, because he organized it according to headings, some of it relating to Islamic law, some of its relating to

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etiquettes, etc.

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So, his collection of some 7275 narrations

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was extracted from over 600,000 channels of narration,

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see the number of narrations that become quite huge, not that the 7000 was, in fact, the essence of those 600,000 there are some he chose and some he didn't. So, his book though he calls it this, I hear that his attempt was not to gather all of the data here, but just a portion of it. And he and that's what he he did in his collection.

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Now,

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as we look at this process,

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from the point of view of

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the writing itself, as opposed to the point of view of the generations, the first level first stage, which was within the first century, beginning after the hedra, this is referred to as the stage of the Sahiba

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usaha sahifa, meaning literally page, had their writings tended to be on pages of material, they're either goatskin, or they were the type of material that were available for writing the vibe, you know, I there were there were bows of palm trees or shoulder blades of camels, etc, etc. And the most popular one was, of course, parchment, because that could be folded up and carried more easily. If you have a bunch of shoulder blades in

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the second level, our period of stage of writing was called the stage of the persona

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you know, which literally means a classified or organized work. This covers the middle of the second century of the Hippodrome after the Hippodrome and this is

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this

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includes the work of Imam Malik and what is included in that stage of writing the Masonic

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order what you find in terms of masala is that it may contain a variety of material may not just contain Hadith may also contain the rulings of the Sahaba there was kind of like a mixture it wasn't really a had this book as becomes the noise later on. You know, it's contained rulings of the rulings of the Sahaba themselves. Sometimes rulings of the sabay in their students were included in what were classified as the sun, you know, in the morpho molecule, find all of that

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The stage after that

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was known. And this was towards the end of the second century, this was known as the stage the stage of the Muslim net. And of the holidays, which we'll call Macedo collections is the well known muslera bathmats was the document which contains some 40,000 edits, right, with some repetition.

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Repetition may come down to about 25, to 30,000.

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But the most nets were organized according to

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alphabetical collections of the names according to the names of the Sahaba, they would list the Sahaba and alphabetically and then mention all of the holidays, which this Sahabi narrated. So there were compilations based around the Sahaba themselves, their names, as opposed to

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basing them on topics there is topics. And the fourth stage of writing,

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which is considered the most important stage is that of this size, as the size of ohare, is began in the first half of the third century, and overlaps. To some degree, the creative, the Muslim, you know, but this is the period now, where the issues of authentication became,

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you know, great. So, text of compilations came to be referred to as you know, and the sudden, these are the four cylinder well known. So then, this these were compiled in this period.

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Now,

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what we're saying here, we look back at the process of compilation of

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is that

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the Hadith in general, were not narrated merely orally. This is the main misconception which needs to be removed.

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That's in fact, the vast majority of the Hadees were narrated in writing, the vast majority, if not all, very, very important. Because this is commonly quoted that writing of holidays didn't take place until the second century, idea being some 200 years after the time was a problem.

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But although there are references of this nature, the major writing took place in the second century. But you have to understand that when they're talking about the second century, they're not talking about 200 years really after the time, the problem was that Salim died. The second, the first century began with the headroom It included the last 10 years of life, and included the lives of much of these companions, many of them live almost to the end of that first century. Or they're the ones who actually heard the statements of the buffalo summer. So when you say that the major writing took place in the second century,

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that is in the lifetimes of the students of the companions, who heard and saw and related.

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So we're not talking about a huge depth of Final thoughts. And as I mentioned, the vast majority of those companions who narrated narrated, especially those narrated large amounts, you know, more than 28, the vast majority of them wrote down their headaches, they wrote them down themselves. And they narrated it to students who also wrote down that.

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So the process of writing began in the time of the problem was awesome. It was continued in the time in the era of his companions, which overlapped with his own time, and into the era of the the students of the companions, which overlapped into the era of the companions themselves, and then also after their time after they passed away. And it was in that second century, quote, unquote, second century that the major compilation took place that is gathering of it all, not the writing, the writing took place from the tower promises alone, but the actual compilation in now into the major works like that, that was more fun, and follow it in Muslim in almost a document the other

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Muslim Messiah needed during the Muslim and in the era, which followed them. We find the major compilation into the well known books that we know today, but the initial compilation

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that took place really, in the time of major companies took place in the time of the students.

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of the companions. And it was Omar and Abdul Aziz,

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who is known as the fifth righteous Calif, sometimes referred to as the fifth branch in Canada. He is the one who gave the instructions for the holidays to be recorded. I mean, it's collected, compiled, right? And as Aubrey is known as the biggest figure of that era, who was leading the leading figure, in the process of compiling, and we will be looking at that this in our future sessions in more detail, when we look at the actual process of transmission. How did the Sahaba pass it on? What was their methodology? What did they use? We said there was writing but you know, what does this mean in terms of that they had their books over? Or did they, you know, read these books?

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Or did they have to read the books, whatever, we'll be looking at the methodology of transmission, this will be in our session tomorrow.

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As well as you know, continuing with the, the historical process of the compilation. Okay, inshallah, we'll stop here. If you have any questions that you'd like to raise concerning the, either the significance of Hadees, which is what we've covered in our first section,

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or the actual process of compiling of heavy themselves.

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Okay, I read this question, you know, how did how do we harmonize or rationalize the two instructions of the prophet SAW Selim, with regards to the writing of Hadith, on one hand, instructed companions on both sides, and Audrey is the one who narrated that is enthroned as a Muslim, he

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instructed that nothing besides the price should be written.

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And yet, on the other hand, we have the live nominal last, coming to the processor level. And it was also like telling him, that whatever I say is true. So write it.

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How do we

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harmonize these two statements, as we said, that another leading scholars January concluded that

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the statements or problems or Salah must be looked at, in the context of his general practice?

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his general practice was to have people write down statements of this, we know from the letters we know from other cases, other ideas I mentioned, when people ask the process, I'm writing this down for me, and they said, okay, write Fallujah, and so on. So, you know, we have so many instances of writing, and this is saying themselves, we used to write in the diner moments or something so many cases. But it meant then that this instruction wasn't to be taken on face value. But it has to be looked at, within a context, that context was the writing of the Quran.

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But those people who are directly involved in the writing of the mind, there are structured by the problem of satsang them,

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perhaps initially, and then later, that instruction was left.

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Or it was a General Instruction, that in writing the Koran, one should not write these along with it. And this was to avoid adding the mixed up with Quranic text, interpolations when it comes to be known as interpolation.

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So that's how the majority of scholars took it. In fact, Mr. Bahari

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and a number of other scholars of his time, they took the position that this had his right, which ended up being transmitted as a statement of problems asylum was actually a statement the level of saying, allegedly himself, which later as it was handed down, and he didn't have anybody, right. They got mistakenly

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quoted as a statement from himself, since the position held by number of causes. I mean, it's valuable. Was it the case? Or was it not the case? I mean, the fact that there were so many other narrations where he gave instructions, right, this does tend to point to the fact that this may be this may, in fact, be the case. But if those who have narrated and handed down, were among the highly respected narrators of Heidi, you know, then we have to take it on face value that in fact, it wasn't staying at the pump.

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The question

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he brings in last semester be very confident.

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Okay, but they're just asking for further clarification on how the fox islands grave became included in the masjid in the masjid.

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As I mentioned,

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the

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why in the homes of the wives of the Prophet SAW some of them were on the left side of the masjid.

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there on the left side of the masjid, each wife had a

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one room or one and a half room apartment and they door open right onto the master so he would leave his room of his wives walk straight into the masjid.

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And

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after his death

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when he was buried in his

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home in the time of Amara, and hope he did expand the master but he expanded it to the other side,

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the right side as opposed to the left side.

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And there were other homes people's on the right, close right up next to the bus and in fact, you still have if you go to master the number one certain doors are called Bob Omar.

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Why? Because that was where Omar's home used to be. He used to leave his home and go through the mass and also then get their homes right next to the masjid. Okay, so that's why you still have the names of some of the confinements. Anyway, those homes were torn down and the bathroom was expanded to the right, it was expanded eventually, towards the Qibla increased and that's why you find too many Arabs in the masjid, if you look at massive number we do have met Rob, where they have the green rugs which they call the rose up, there's a

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concave niche where a mountain may stand and pray. And then you have another one farther forward, right where people line up where the mob actually now stands in place. That's because of the expansion which took place. And people have maintained the

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the location of the original merabh of the problems, of course, and above themselves budget there was no matter how famous was added later.

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And they maintain that location because of the state of the province as lm in which he said what is between my

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home and

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the member

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is from the gardens of Paradise, right.

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And that's why they call us Rosa Rosa meaning the garden.

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So during the lifetime of the Sahaba no expansion took place on the left.

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But after the time of why we actually was was that even at the time of Mali, I was the first of the Romanian dynasty. But after his time, in the time of Abdul Malik even Marwan

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he instructed the governor of Medina to make the expansion

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on the left side also, and

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side dependent Messiah, who was one of the leading tags or successive students in Sahaba, at the time, he was there in Medina instructed him not to do this, because they are now creating a situation which was prohibited by but they went ahead and did it anyways.

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This is why during the period, you know, after the time of Malian the rulers after that many of the Muslim scholars left the centers where the rulers were because the fact that they were incorporating practices etc, which were on Islamic, you know, and they didn't want to be in a position of having a compromising position

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having to be quiet when they were doing some of these things, so as not to bring on themselves the wrath of the Netherlands.

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So that expansion took place as I said, during the time of dramatically Milan, and they did place in when they did it, they still place around it a kind of diamond shaped wall, no three sides. And they put it you know, in such a way that people if they wanted to try to face the wall directly, you know,

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never be away from the table.

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So let's say wouldn't line up and

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appeared to be praying towards the tip lover, they were in fact praying towards the grave. They deliberately did this

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later on, you know, other than the time of the Ottoman Turks and that they put around it's a cage and see what we see now, that glass cage drip, green cloth was put over the house of Asia, and the glass cage is put around it, no seals. And

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that's now it's back in a format which a person could stand behind it, and appear to be praying in the direction of Qibla when they're actually in fact praying to the

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use of the civilization. Okay, but this question is not permissible. But it's still there today. In fact, in many parts of the Muslim world where they end up burying, you know, righteous people, or people that consider to be righteous sins, whatever, the Masters Ekk he was basically, in Pakistan, I think I could hardly find a master that didn't have a grave in there. Most of the masters have visited Pakistan. Right. Maybe some of them were, you know, in the, in the public area. Some of them were in the courtyard outside of the masjid, you know, which is still a part of the trade in the courtyard. But, you know, people when when these issues are raised, Medina

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is good enough. Good enough for us, you know, sort of attitude that opposes based on ignorance. They didn't know how

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they got in there. But the question is, why wasn't it removed?

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Well, this has to do with politics,

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or politics.

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It has to do with politics, because even the green dome, which we traditionally See, which is placed right over his grave,

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actually, the green dome is submit see, is a structure built over his grave that according to Islamic law should be destroyed and removed.

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But it has now become the symbol of Macedonia, fortunately, but the point is that, okay, when the

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followers of mom and if enough to Rahab, and the family of Saudi

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Arabia to government and Medina, they did begin a process of purification all of the all of the trees that were trees and things are still has been delayed, where places of Baraka they were going there to the trees and making special draws there and fairs and all these trees, which the church is supposed to be for battle with one, you know, which actually Omar already cut down, so didn't exist. Some people had invented another tree, and that this was the one you know, and the house of

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corpses and and parents and Mecca, all these kind of structures were there and they went through, they destroyed all of these things. Right? They went into the graveyards of Medina and Mecca, which by that time look like cities, because there's so many structures over you know, domes and, and the virtual minerals, many minerals that is inside, they look like literally towns, if you see pictures of the graveyards from that period, they went in, they leveled everything, level all the graves, you know, even with the ground, when they did that, like the Taliban

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the Taliban wisdom took out the Buddhist know the whole world three

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ignorant Taliban

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from Islamic seminary when they've leveled all these graves, you know, the Muslim world which were used to building structures over the graves

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and

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when they, especially those which are built over the grave of popma and all these others see that this was a big big crime This is not contained to a heartbeat. And of course Robbie then became like an evil apostate who's trying to destroy Islam doesn't the name Wahhabi came to me but in fact, it was people who were referred to Moses Puritans they they wanted to go back to the pure Islamic fundamentalists wants to practice Islam as it was taught by foreigners or sell them but not not as it can become culturally defaced and distorted in over the many generations so often is that in the Muslim world screen, then for them to go and

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remove the gray from the masjid and tear down the green dome.

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There politically there was a white dude at this point in time, because you know, what would happen? What was the consequence in the Western world? It's an army in day one.

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So they didn't do it. And nobody has had the nerve to do it today.

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Then. And of course, it has to come from the leadership.

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It has to come from the leadership of a man, you as an individual can go there, I decided to tear down the walls of the masjid. I mean, the Muslims themselves, you know,

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important

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point is that

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the best way for us to be dealt with, you know,

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the best way to be dealt with

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leadership in the best time because, you know, if it were done, you know, as a guerrilla action,

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as you're

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suggesting,

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what would happen is that those in our society would just

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mean why there is the same reason why they do that. So you just keep deleting your purpose. So the best thing is just to leave it until such time as we have the kind of leadership that is

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firmly grounded in the Quran and the Sunnah, as understood by the Sahaba to correct it, or, you know, to the time of the body.

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That's when it has to be done. Well done.

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Abdul Malik Marwan

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any questions from the sisters that can

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do it?

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Question, you know, if we're instructed not to pray

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to the problems,

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or cillian, then what of these prayer maps that we have with pictures of the master data?

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Master? Yeah, in many cases, so

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it's not good.

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It's really bad if we're going to use a prayer mat, it should be playing really

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scary discourage anything which will distract us catch our attention distract us in the present. So it is possible that the bromance between now and in fact, by putting these pictures, the Kaaba or Latina movie, we are misinforming others about ownership, because those people who think that in fact we may be worshipping the Kaaba,

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or the mosque in Medina, and this is confirmed, here we are, we have these words with GABA and they

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just like they will worship their idols either in a physical form the actual idol, they keep on home, or they have a picture of a picture of Ganesh and they do their little worship around Ganesh, which is just as good as not quite as good but almost as good as doing it with the idol itself. So we actually

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contributes to the misunderstanding of people about Islam by producing these

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colorful prayer maps with pictures of the masses in another way, and the data on them.

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And they're really not in keeping with Islamic tradition.

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Okay, brothers question concerning

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brothers question concerning repeated narrations of Hadees. For example, I can say al Bukhari he asked whether these are discarded No. What is what we're dealing with here is that a Hadees?

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may address more than one issue.

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Happy may have in his statement, more than one issue problems are seldom oftentimes said things you know, who were asked about one thing and he would answer about most

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That one, you know, he would give further, you know, depth, depth to the and the answer to the question I was directed to him. So what happened then is that a repeated ID maybe, maybe put under one more than one heading, maybe it's put on the 234 different headings, because there are different aspects of it that are relevant to

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the

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different subjects, for example, that is concerning that job. Okay, what is concerning that job of the Antichrist is generally put in the, under the heading of signs of the last day,

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the final hour in connected to the last day, during the same time

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had said that the Dow would rule for 40 days, the first day would be equivalent to one year.

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So the companions asked,

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right?

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We, five prayers suffice for that one day, that's like a year.

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We live in areas where you have six months of sunlight

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one day, six months long. So they asked what five prayers suffice, then

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they said, No, you have to estimate it, estimates for it.

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So that's heavy, though initially, it comes under the heading of

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size of the last day, it has implications in terms of prayers, prayer timings and estimation of birth, in circumstances where it is necessary to make some estimation. So it can be put under two different types

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based

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on what

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he's

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wearing me know what basis

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Okay, in terms of the basis under which headaches are recorded, and identify classified etc, which is coming. And this is part of the course, I do one section will be on the classification. And on what basis do we say or how do

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we say that in case this is authentic, it authentic? And we'll say it is by Baba, what is the basis? Right? We touched the foundations of it in our second level of our course, but now we'll be looking at it in more depth.

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Okay, again, you're jumping the gun question concerning profiles of biographies of the happy innovators were discovered and found in books known as kutub. Originally, on the biographical works, your websites have been compiled on the various directors and in fact, the information about these various directors was handed down along with the narration of baddies

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1060

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Okay, the total number of Sahaba

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estimates have been put in you know, the high estimate is something like 100,000.

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High estimates, others are less than that. The

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1640s 18,000

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Yes, all that is included

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in one time

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What a nice

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majority of

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the vast majority of today's question or lack of headings were narrated in written form, they're written down, there isn't no

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channel,

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a channel of narration represents

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a chain of the raters

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carried carrying, or a particular statement of the problems or Salah.

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It may be from a single Sahabi.

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But each one of his students and the students, students, each one of them represents or each grouping represents a channel.

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That's a hobby, I should mention that.

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Besides the fact that, you know, it was in that third generation Italia,

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that the major writing took place, that those three generations have a special place in the sight of the oma from the point of view, that our homes are seldom had said hydromax economy, similar in a Luna home, similar DNA, Mo, the best of people,

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my generation, then those who follow them, then those who follow them. So special status was also given to the heavy generation of hobbyists in those first two generations. And the first one was awesome and said that,

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I mean,

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a lot of us he didn't

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mean specifically that there would be the ones that would do the major recording of the hobbies. But that's what it turned out to be. And then this is obviously statements of them being the best generation is based on a revelation from a law firm to make the claim to the revelation from Allah. And in fact, they did play a major role in the protection of Islam, and that those first three generations are generally referred to by the term seller. Select meaning, highest predecessors. So you may hear the term seller fee, you know, person says, I'm a seller, meaning I follow the Quran and Sunnah, as it was understood by those first three generations, because they best understood

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Islam.

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He never mentioned the word voltage

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generated

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by

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just

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considered

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asking, why is the total number of Sahaba may have been anywhere between 50,000 and 100,000? Why only 1060 of them marriage? Well,

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there is a well known statement the problems of

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mankind mankind's ambition is about one other woman and whoever

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tells a lie about me deliberately

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should take his seat or sit in place in the Hellfire

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by many, many, many combined well known also some Repeat this on a number of occasions,

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he warned against

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fabrications, actually, in the narration of that same idea of the size of

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the right anything

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other than the plan. In the end of that narration, he says

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and whoever lies about me will find it cityplace verified mentioned actually.

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So, the companions were very wary about narrating anything,

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which may be doubtful, you know, maybe they forgot or whatever. So, only those who are absolutely sure

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that what they were conveying was in fact, what the prophet SAW Selim said he did Oh, he approved. Yeah, absolutely. Sure. Only those who are absolutely sure.

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So that shows really the care and concern that

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companions had to avoid, you know, false information being conveyed about

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someone

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I would like to know about the difference of opinion.

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Okay, you are jumping the gun

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is asking about the differences between 100 views and Sharpies You know, this is jumping the gun we will look into that. As we look into more into the hobbyist application such as

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not

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to panic alone

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and