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Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salaam aleikum which is greeting of peace, peace be unto you. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the deen Show. Today we're going to be talking about hip hop with our guest. Napoleon from the outlaws which was a group that was alongside with Tupac Shakur. So when we come back, we're gonna be talking about hip hop. You don't want to go nowhere. We'll be right back.
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Why did that maybe, maybe it's just a break the ice as salaam alaikum brother peace be unto you while it goes to Allah piecemealing. Back to you, brother. Thank you, brother for being with us here again on the deen show. My pleasure, man. Thanks for having me. My pleasure, man. Now, I mentioned hip hop. And can you tell us and define what does hip hop actually mean? hip hop nowadays is very hard to even define it because every year come up with something crazy. But I know, hip hop started in the Bronx, New York. The whole rap thing where I recall. And remember, when rap first started off, it was all about trying to help each other get out of the struggles of an inner city. And it
started off with everybody talking about we're gonna go back to the motherland and Africa, and we're gonna help each other. But now hip hop is way far away from what it started from the foundation of basically positive and getting the people out of the struggles of the inner city. Right now hip hop from what we know is all about how many how much guns you shot, how many people you murdered, how many women you fornicated with disrespect, and woman and disrespect and other people is basically to the point where it's even hard to define hip hop. As far as my concern, from what you just said, here. This is the antithesis, the opposite of Islam and Islamic destiny. So this stuff is something
we want to talk about. Because it's prevalent today that the youth and just people in general, they seem to like this hip hop. So fortunately, man, I think one of the shades he beautified that lifestyle with when a person turned on the television, they see these rappers and as look it look as if they life is just full of happiness. They see him for a five minute video, bunch of cars, mansions money, but they don't get to see these people behind the scenes that most of the people in the entertainment business Unfortunately, there are some of the most unhappy people on the face of Earth, even though they music videos might display Another characteristic of these people, but these
people, they are not happy. And I was one of those people it was um, it's like the people searching for something to drink, everybody's thirsty. And most of the people they turned to negative to quench a thirst you know what I mean? And I was right along with these people. Yeah, you have your own section on the deen show where we did a show about how you came actually to Islam, how you surrendered yourself to the Creator of the heavens and earth? Yes, not his creation. Definitely live in the way of life of all the messengers of God, including the last and final messenger sent to mankind problem hum. Peace be upon all the messengers. So now, tell us, you were hanging around. You
were a part of the outlaws? Yeah, so how many 4030 40 million records so 40 million records were 40 million records outlaws outlaws and Tupac he was someone who you said is in the Guinness Book of World Records. In the Guinness Book of World Records for selling the most records out of all rappers he sold over 60 million 60 million records worldwide. And majority of the records he sold out they passed away. Yeah. So now you're Muslim now. Mazel hamdulillah. So now the life that you live in is opposite of what the hip hop. Definitely people are calling you to definitely,
exactly most of the time hip hop. Unfortunately, I wouldn't even truly blame too much other rappers The reason why is because most of the rappers, they truly come from the ghettos. So if you come to a rapper, individual who never really seen probably $5,000 in his life, or $500, and you tell him, I will give you a contract for a million dollars, I will put $500,000 in your pocket. But I want you to talk about a certain type of rap, I want you to preach a certain type of lifestyle in your music. Most of the people gonna say, Look, man, if I got to talk about killing my own brother for that 500,000 a million dollars, I'm gonna go ahead and do it. So it's a very, it's an industry where the
people behind the scenes, the ones that's really calling the shots, it gets to the point where the rappers if they don't produce the album that the record companies produce, they don't have a job, you know what I mean? So it's a very tricky cycle. It's all about a cycle, get mine get yours. I said definitely. It's all about get up out of the ghetto. Most of the rappers they never go back to the hood. They make it out and they forget about the people in the hood. So it's a very tricky cycle. You know, I mean, even some of the rappers when it gets to a point, when they get tired of that type of lifestyle that they preach about in a music
is even harder because they are in contract. So the record labels, for example, prints, you remember the singer named prints. And this is the reason why I used to walk around with slave on his face, because he basically exposed the industry and said that the musicians are really slaves to the record company. What did he do? He walked the walk around and put the slave on his face. He's walking around with slavery in his face prints. Yeah, the singer, formerly known as Prince, I don't know his name, name. But he's a speaker, he talked about how basically, this is a record like this is an industry that's his own is designed to put you in debt, you put one record out, when you go
get your money, they will say, well, you owe us millions. In order to pay this millions back, you got to give us another record, but we need this type of music. So it's really hard. You know, it means a cycle that even some of the musicians don't even know how to get out of it's kind of like interest credit. Definitely, definitely the same people want inches run a record label, I'm sure. Yeah, you know, I mean, so this is, again, the opposite. Like we as those who follow that way, that way of submission to God to the Creator, we want to be slaves to him. But it seems like if you run away from being slave to the Creator, you end up being a slave to something in his creation. And as
you hit it on the nail, man, they basically, if you're not a slave to a lot, you're going to be the slave to something. Either your desires, your money,
your jewelry, your cars, you're gonna have to be you're gonna submit to something you know what I mean? So, the music industry is basically a call to the opposite of what Islam call to Islam calling for one, the respect of woman, Islam call to that we do not oppress women, you know, before I became a Muslim, I used to impress a woman and you got people running around saying that the Muslims we oppress a woman. I come from a society man of background that I did music oppressing a woman. It wasn't until I became a Muslim that you actually see how a woman's supposed to be treated. So the music industry calls it the disrespect most of the lyrics is about shirk, associated partners with
the law is about like I mentioned yesterday, man, I remember when I used to write raps I used to literally try to aspire to say the most evil thing that a person could hear. Yeah, I used to go to write a rap and I used to say to myself, I want to say something so evil that the people might think the devil is self said these words. And this is the type of industry that after a while it makes you want to be the one that's the most and everything the most craziest sell the most records. The most disrespectful to the woman is a competition among the right and we're dry. What's the drive behind that? What are you trying to accomplish? At the end of the day, we'll be right back.
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songs, I promise assistance. Get ready. You're watching the TV show. Take it away. And what are you waiting for? What are we waiting for right now? What are you waiting for all these people to come to Islam? What are you waiting for? What are we waiting for right now, when they're gonna come? They're gonna come along and bring these people last? Put in our hands, the ability to do it now do your job.
To be honest, oh, even when I look back on it, I asked myself what was I'm trying to accomplish? You know what I mean? What was I'm thinking about? I think that it was just, this is an industry for the devil. I really think that this is an industry for the devil. And it's to take people away from the remembrance of Allah. I mean, so at the end of the day, the most thing that at the end of the day is all about money. It's all about how much records you sell, how much money you make. What about some people that might argue and say, You know what, this is an artistic way of expressing oneself from kind of the lifestyle that I used to live now. Well, you got people that might say that, and have
you heard that? I heard that many times you got most of the people that you got two groups of people that say that you got the people that's the normal, some that say that where you gotta say, well, maybe they don't have another way. Maybe they think this is the only way then you have the Muslim that say the same thing where we should be ashamed because we we get our guidance from the Quran and the Sunnah. And there's no way in our religion that gives us the authority to go ahead and use music to spread Islam. If anything that religion Islam calls against that, you know what I mean? So I would say to the people, that is other ways to, to express yourself, you know what I mean? Because
most of the rappers, if that's the excuse that they express in the way they live, or the society they come from, most of them don't even go to the hood anymore. So while you're still disrespecting women to this day, well, you never been in the hood. You ain't been back to the hood, since you put a record out, you know what I mean? So what is your screws now? So you mentioned because a lot of the hip hop and a lot of the music nowadays is like you said, oppressing the woman. Yes. And talking about some of the most evil things, murder, drugs, drinking, fornication, and obviously, if you keep listening to this, you're gonna want to act it out. Exactly. You're gonna be a slave to this type of
stuff. If you listen to this stuff, and that's all you
Like you just said, Man, eventually, that you've got to start thinking that this is the way of life. You know what I mean? Growing up, I remember that thought that that was the only way of life you know what I mean? So the best thing to do we know that that's First of all, it's a waste of time, you know what I mean? waste of time, waste of time to even sit and listen to that stuff. Second of all, especially for the Muslim youth, we should know that this is we have something better than music, we have the Quran, you know, so if you want to listen to something to soothe your soul, what better way to soothe your soul than the Koran listening to the Quran? You know? Yeah. So So tell us,
Napoleon from the outlaws, former member of the outlaws that is a
group made up by Tupac Shakur. Yes, selling millions of records live in that fast life, the dream that some people are trying to acquire where you got out of it was a difficult was a difficult to leave this lifestyle. No doubt about it. Definitely. Definitely. It was one of the hardest things that I had to face. Because all I knew was music. You know what I mean, this was this was my life. Since I was a child, this is the only thing that I knew how to do. I'm a high school dropout. So I dropped out of high school to go pursue my career in the music industry. And I started to make money from this business. So when I became Muslim, and I started to notice and read about and the brothers
was bringing me proof from the Quran and the Sunnah, that what I'm doing is wrong. Eventually, I had to get away from it. And it was very hard. You know what I mean? It was hard, because when I was getting the devil will whisper to me and make me so think about how am I going to provide for myself, I'm a high school dropout. This is the only way I know how to make no money. Second of all, it was just very hard because it was an addictive lifestyle. So for me to walk away from something that I thought was the only way of life. And to find out the way I was living was wrong. It was definitely hard. How are you? How are you waking up in the morning, I know a lot of people who just
set their alarm clock and hip hop in the morning, you have to know you got to burn your favorite CD.
In the car all day long is the panel and that was life. It was my life. Literally music was my life. You know what I mean? Everything remote revolved around music, the way it was my breakfast, it was my lunch, it was my dinner. So when I became Muslim, it was one of the things that I had to ask myself, okay, this is the truth. This is the religion from the Creator of the heavens on Earth. This is false. On this side, this is music this is false, which one? What side do I rather be on? And I knew at this point in my life, there was no doubt about it, that I knew what Allah says in the Quran was the truth, no doubt about it. So it was one of them things that I had to make a decision, you
know, tell us now because some people who are obviously are engrossed in this, they might say, Man, you know what, this is a little extreme. You know, what's wrong with music? It makes me feel good. Now, let's rationalize this from just a rational perspective for any person with some common sense. Yes, you could talk about like, the good things that Islam was calling me to, and the opposite of what this music hip hop was calling you might have some people that might say is extreme, but one as a Muslim, we try to live our life to the best of our ability according to what Allah has messages tell us and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he said, anything that will bring us closer to
that would lead us to the Hellfire, he warned us against it. And anything that guide us to paradise, he told us about how to achieve it. So for example, let's talk about it from a non Islamic point of view perspective, where you have non Muslims that did a study of musical instruments. And even non Muslims recently said that the musical instruments affect the person body physically, they said that a certain musical sounds you can listen to that can actually make your heart skip a beat, and you can catch a heart attack. They said, a certain musical sound that you can listen to that can produce some type of anger inside of you. And they said is I'm sorry, musical sound that you can listen to
that even lead to depression. And he said, they said, for example, a lot of the rock and roll that type of music, they did a study and noticed that a lot of people that listen to that music, ended up being suicide has suicidal tendencies, or they get depressed. So if I lost a message a todos over 1400 years ago, to stay away from this, and we know is only good for us. It's not to harm us. It's not to make our life hard, I mean, or difficult is only to make it easy for us, you know, and it's a true story that they just did a study recently a lady that Cassia she falls out and catch fits. So when they play certain sound, certain music records for her, she's normal, but every time she
listened to one record, she catches a seizure Fallout. So now the medical doctors, the doctors are saying that this is something in the musical instrument that's harm enough physically to make a fallout and catch a fit. So we know that the musical instruments can affect you in a way that in a negative way, you know what I mean? Then you got some people that say, Well, what about some of the musical instruments that we know like Beethoven and all these people that you listen to it and make you feel good? We know that Allah says in the Quran about alcohol he said that even though you might find some benefit in it, but the evil of alcoholic and alcohol outweighs the good so it's best to
stay away from it. So you got some people that might say well, some good in it, but they know everybody knows that the evil music outweighs the good. You're not it's too many is too many stories where you don't really hear
It will purchase out, listen to music today and actually really do some positive because I listen to music. We're the people now that you are working for the owners of the record labels, do they really care for the well being of humanity? Of course not. Man, the main thing is about making some money. The main thing that people behind the scenes, they don't really care what's going on. As long as you're gonna sell some records, you're gonna bring up some millions of billions of dollars, they don't care if you do a record.
Talking about killing your mother, for instance, Eminem came out with a record, he killed his mother and the record buried and everything in the record, and a record labels producers and promoted this type of stuff. So we'll let you know that they doesn't care about the well being of the producer of the musicians or the people doesn't listen to the music. That's crazy stuff is a crazy industry. And people are buying this and people bought it. People bought it. His own mother taught a song. And because she she looked at it like it wasn't entertainment. She said, How can my son directly talk about killing me and burying me, but the record label producer and they promoted it? So yeah. So
obviously, this is not going to have a good influence on our youth or even definitely don't? How about 50 cents. Now you mentioned something about him, not drinking and not smoking, as mentioned that he doesn't, he doesn't smoke marijuana, you know what I mean? He's smart enough to know that this stuff is bad for you and harm you. But unfortunately, you got the youth that they will listen to 50 cents, and they will actually try to go get high by listening to his music and they will actually go pack pack a gun if they listen to a certain rapper. One of the things that the kids need to know that man, this is entertainment. These rappers are putting out these records talking about
dropouts, these people don't even go back in the hood anymore. 99% of them don't even go to the hood, they can't go to the hood. So it's the entertainment that the kids they listen to these people. And it's something that they have to use a common sense, you know, you should tell yourself, how come for example, 50 cents talking about all this gangster stuff. But he got the biggest house on the east coast of America? Actually, obviously, he's not in the hood anymore. Yeah. So what what's your now suggestion? I mean, because obviously, this takes over a person's life. I mean, you just you got to get the newest record that came out. You got to watch the, you know, the MTV videos
of all the rappers you maybe got his picture on the wall? I mean, how can you What advice can you give to somebody advice is basically man that we want don't take these people as our role models. And as for the Muslim youth, this is very, this is sad, because we have role models from the Prophet sallallahu wasallam and his sahabas. These are the people we take as our role models. These are people that we should look up to, and want to be like, and try to implement how they lived a life, but you should look up to people that have no guidance. You know, I mean, may Allah guide these people to Islam, these people that when they want to go feel good, they have to get high, you have
to go get drunk, just the face reality of the life when I was in the music industry, when I was afraid to be sober. Just because I know that the way I was living, my life wasn't correct. And most of these rappers are the same way, man, they're not happy. So why is our kids looking up to people that doesn't don't have guidance? You know, I mean, so it's very important that the Muslim youth they should know who are role models are. And we do have role models, you got the Muslim youth running around saying that we don't have enough role models. We have role models, just because we don't see them on television, doesn't mean we don't have role models. The Prophet sallallahu
wasallam is the best example. This is what Allah says, You know what I mean? This is the best example for us to follow Sharla Yeah. So now you're away from that lifestyle. How is your life now? How do you feel my life now? hamdulillah the best you know, I mean, never been more happier, more easygoing. This is this is this is the life you know, I mean, this is the true life when you follow the religion that the creator sent down to us life becomes easy. And even if you do get hard, we do remind ourselves that look man, I'm on a religion of the Creator of the heavens and earth. If you get hard so what I have a chance to die and go to jail inshallah. So hombre de la. Now, when you
said 100, Allah, for Allah, okay, praise due to God. And so the people can understand who are not Muslim, and we want to do to God, yeah. Tell us because some of the people think that religion is something you know, it's for the monks is for the people who are kind of weird or something. It's not something that's, you know, I got time maybe when I get 4050 I'll turn my life around. What do you think about this thing? One that we never know when we're gonna die. You know what I mean? Every single one of us have to taste death law says that in the Quran, that every soul shall taste death. And one Allah, he's our Creator. He knows what's best for us. If either one created us, he know what
life is best for us. So he is so merciful that a lot of started just creating us, putting us on earth and telling us to live life the way we want to live life and figure out how to be guided, a lot so merciful that he sent us prophets and messages to teach us how we should live live our life. And what better way What better person or what better way to live our life according to the person that created as he knows what's best for us. So we can never go wrong following a religion of Allah following the religion of the Creator of the heavens and earth. So most people might think that well, following a religion only gonna basically shut them up.
Me shorten the happiness of my life but that's the wrong understanding that's a misunderstanding because you can never go wrong following the way of life that your Creator legislated for you now as one who has consciously made the decision to submit to the creator not his creation yes worshipping Him alone not setting up any partners sons daughters with the crater you got all sorts of weird thing those are the weird things is fine and organized religions organized by men. We should have to follow those but something organized by the crater. Let's get to it. So now that you have done that, yes, you submitted to the crater. Yes. Tell us I mean for the youth. Now who think that way of life
is cool. I think this is the coolest thing. Knowing your purpose in life. Tell us like some of the things you do. Do you still play ball? Do you still like you know, hang out with friends? I mean, are you just locked up in a room worshiping all day? Do people think man if people think that the Muslims don't have no life? Yeah. But as a Muslim will lie he swear to god that my life became much easier, more happier. And I seem like I have more stuff to do now that I'm a Muslim. So as many things are Muslim could basically live life the way he was living like before, and pretty much sense of that. You can still play basketball, you can still go hang out with your friends. You can go
swimming, you can go horseback riding, you can do so much stuff that's permissible in religion. You know me most people think that as a Muslim, all we do is go into a dark room and just pray pray. That's the wrong understanding of Islam. So So instead of worshipping when a God's messengers, Mohammed Jesus, you're worshiping the one who created the worship the one who created them and sent them to us. And instead of drinking alcohol, you drink fruit juice during exams, and
you don't throw dice. We don't throw dice. No gambling, no gambling, no game we don't need we don't need that. Yeah, it's only harmony, isn't it? And what I mean, we try to have them relate to some of the goodness because it's only in their nature, if they honest with themselves. What's another thing? I mean, you eat some good food, right? Definitely. But you stay away from the food we stay away from the pig pork stay away from the pig and this is a small amount of food that the Muslim stay away from but other than that, everything is there everything else he makes permissible sin like in this religion, is more thing permissible than that's permissible and impermissible. You
know, I mean, this is the religion that is a vast religion. It's a it's a way of life. A lot of people don't know that Islam is a way of life. Everything we do is pretty much worship. Yeah. And I mean, it's pretty much worship. And majority of the people like you said earlier they think to get religious, they life will get boring, but that's the wrong understanding. And I was the same way. I was afraid that now I don't drink alcohol. How can I have fun? I can't go to clubs. How can I have fun, and you'd be surprised the stuff that you can do when you live your life according to the way your creative legislative form, human life just become so much fun, so much happier than living that
type of life that you think is happy, which is only temporary happiness only temporarily. At any time definitely dead. Now some people think like, man, I gotta give up, you know, the bacon, I got to give up that Hennessy. I got to give up the jack and coke. I got to give up fornicating I'm losing my mind. But can a person now come in make that first step, declared that there's only one God, I'm going to worship Him alone, except that Muhammad is the last and final messenger. And then slowly, some people say, you know, I'll try to change all this, then I'll come to the way What do you think that that's a better understanding if they think because if they think they should change
Dinka first, because the only thing that's going to actually change, this is the religion of Islam. That's the medicine that's the medicine right there. And the most important thing of this religions that we should worship our Creator alone. That's what a lot of call us to the most of that you should give him his rights. He created us, he provided for us all he asks back from us that we should worship Him alone. That's the first step a person should take that step first. And then later on, they can work on a life and they can work on the things but the first step that we should take is to worship our Lord alone, give him his rights, you know what I mean? And everything else come
later, you know, maybe even the profit center line he was selling for the first 13 years. He only preached or he the oneness of Allah, He only called the people to Allah He did it was a no verses of the Quran reveal says stop drinking alcohol. It wasn't to 13 years later, you know, to me, what I found in my personal life is the more I got to know who my creator is, if you don't know him, then you like Why should I do these things from but when you get to know you make some good analogies yesterday that the crater in one part of the world he's making it shine, and another part it's raining another part he's feeding the fish down into see the bird in the air. Wow, that's amazing.
So when you get to know your Creator, and you want to do what he wants, you want to give away from that stuff. You start feeling embarrassed, feeling about like Wow, look at all the blessings Allah bestowed upon me. He asked me to leave this for him, and I can't do it. You know what I mean? So we can do it. Most people are afraid because they think they can't do it. You know, I mean, that's another thing that if you truly acts a lot of help you to get rid of certain things, or to get rid of move away from certain habits a lot. inshallah we'll make it easy. You know, you only I mean, from there. You die in the right state. Now you can be in paradise. That's forever.
Forever ever man in Paradise, imagine that you have been with Panama forever. That's not worth you know, taking something that's so short you can die at any time and bartering it for now. Wow, for eternity. Who would do that nobody in a right mind would basically take something that's going to last for 30 minutes five minutes to give us a way to live in paradise forever. Yeah, nobody would do that and they write my last comments and suggestions for those now that they are really in tune to what you definitely what I would say man to the people that's listening, I would say if there's any non Muslims out there, listen to man, just take your time out, man, it's not gonna hurt you for you
to go pick up the English translation of the Quran and read the biography of the Prophet Mohammed and also for the Muslim speaker to myself first that it's about time that we return back to our religion. And according to the Quran and the Sunnah man we go back to our religion properly, you know, to me, because there's nothing else out there. Yeah, nothing else out there. And if you can do it, a person who was making a ton of money here, and you sacrificed all of that gave it up for the pleasure of your Creator is nothing better than I think many of us out there who are struggling with some small vices we can give that up. You try it man take try Islam.
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you the truth and the attribute of the one who created you that he's one and alone by running this universe that he doesn't become born, he doesn't die He doesn't eat and then go to the bathroom. This is not God. problems here. Yeah, this This doesn't make sense. Who is Jesus worshipping? This is recorded in the gospels. And despite all of the other issues about the Gospels, we put those aside we'll just say it's mentioned there that Jesus did worship God
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