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How to be Really Healthy with Jim Marlowe. Eat Better, Feel Better, Live Better

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We have a serious health crisis before we get to the solutions let's start with Chris Rock out of all people yes Chris Rock rock and then we'll go into our topic with our special guest let's go ahead take it to Chris

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cure cure

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diseases been hanging out since I was a kid

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cancer Jerry's kids still limping around that's why we got AIDS out there you

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know the kid even athlete's foot

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they know money and the money is in the medicine. That's how you get paid on the

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drug dealer makes his money on the

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drug dealer.

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Good. I mean, I'm okay.

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So good. Man crazy extra strength of Lima dude good like 3000 milligrams yeah 3000 milligrams is that even safe? Is that safe?

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Yeah what you want children's Tylenol list those kids

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okay your doctor so then you know that leave? Isn't it bad for like your stuff? Only if you

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Welcome to the D show for another exciting episode. no stranger to the D show. Chief former chief chief nutritionist for Dr. mercola

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optimal wellness. Jim Marlo, how you doing? I'm doing great, Eddie, how are you? I'm good. Thank God. Happy to have you again. In the Digital Studio. How's everything? How's your health? Thank you. Thank you for inviting me back on the deen show. And my health is better than ever. How's your health, health? Feeling good. We just coming out of Ramadan, we were fasting. And I'm feeling really good. Thank God, it's good to hear that. So we want to pick your brain. We want to get some more some more data from you. And there's a a very powerful documentary and I want to ask you about that you usually recommend you recommend a what you recommended for me to watch it. I watched it and I

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also recommend it to other people. Why is it that you think that people should watch this documentary? It's the first part of a docu series. It's called the truth about cancer global quest. Can you talk to us a little bit about that? Because you recommended that to me, and it was a real eye opener, right? And you recommend it to a lot of people. So maybe we can encourage more people to watch it. But why is it what is what's so special about this documentary? Well, this documentary, especially the first part of the truth about cancer that is produced by Ty Ballinger and his his people.

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It offers people some very valuable truth about

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what the medical establishment has to offer in regard to the treatment of various types of cancers that's beyond what most people are familiar with. In fact, what dominates in the mainstream about

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the treatments for cancer is

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it's a big part of the conventional medicine business model. And it's important to understand that conventional medicine is first and foremost, it's it's built on a business model.

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And so

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if you're if you're interested in going beyond the medical establishment propaganda about what they have to offer, the truth about cancer series, especially the first episode will give people a different perspective about the history. And the the value or most of the time, the lack of value

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in taking conventional treatments, such as

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the poisons that are euphemistically known as chemotherapy,

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and radiation treatments

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and other conventional practices. And so it's, it's always best to take the initiative to educate yourself beyond just what is mainstream.

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What's in mainstream, what dominates in the mainstream media is what is serving and trenched business interest.

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It's important to be awake to that.

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And so

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when you are

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when you have very important decisions to make, doesn't it make sense that the better informed you are,

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the more likely you are to make the wisest decision for yourself.

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So

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That's what I have to say. I like I like how the you have a lot of scientists on there you have researchers, you have doctors PhDs, you have some some very intellectual people on, there's people who kind of think out the box also. And I like how it goes into the history, it goes into the history of allopathic medicine, he gives a synopsis in the beginning talking about, you know, how, over 100 years ago how it was all established. So you get a historical look at it. And many of the funders behind the AMA is really deep and profound. Yeah, yes, it attempts to answer a very important question. And that is, why are things the way they are? Why, why is it that the

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conventional medical establishment is is is so oriented toward drugs?

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And the propaganda about that it's been, well, this is the best that medical science has to offer. And, you know, this is it's, you know, it's it's evidence based medicine, I'd like to see some evidence based medicine, in regard to people taking four or more prescription drugs, there is there is no science supporting that that's safe. You know, most of this most of what is offered in regard to drug treatments, it's based on just taking that drug, there's a little bit of, of what you could call science having to do with two drugs, little bit, even less with three drugs. But there's virtually no science, supporting that. It's safer, effective to peep for people to take four or more

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drugs, you know, commonly known as polypharmacy. I've known people over the years to my own family, you know, senior citizens that are on 15 different prescriptions. 15. Yeah, that's not, that's not uncommon out. No, it's it's, it's not. And where's the science supporting that that's safe and effective? But is it pro lumber, but if the argument comes in, where now this is helping to prolong their lives, this is something that is,

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yeah, it's helping to prolong their lives, maybe, but it's certainly not helping to improve the quality of their lives. Because I've I've, I've,

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I've had, I have quite a bit of life experience, both family friends.

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And people that I've worked with over the years, especially at the optimal Wellness Center, when because of the popularity of Dr. mikolas. website, we attracted a lot of

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seriously health challenge people from all over the country. And

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so when it seems like the more drugs that people are taking,

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the lower the quality of their life. Yeah. Yeah, that's, you know, there may be some exceptions to that, but I can't, it's kind of like that. Would you turn me out also to Dr. Kelly Brogan, she says the same thing that most of these drugs if not a great number of them, they come at a cost. Yes. So you're healing one thing or not even healing? I mean, you're Are you because many people think that okay, if you take this drug, that it's actually making the the problem, the root problem go away. But is that the truth? No, no, no. There is no drug that's

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been developed, that ultimately addresses the cause of a health problem with the possible exception of insulin for type one insulin dependent diabetic, but drugs were not designed to to cure. They were designed to treat the symptoms. Now I'm noticing you're saying drug, not medicine. Is there a difference between the medicine or drug? Well, the terms medicine is a euphemism for synthetic chemicals. That can be patented. Drugs, yeah, drug because I like to think that medicine is has a healing effect. That's what you what you'd find and you know, many of the natural herbs and well, there was remedies. Yes. Well, there was a there was a great bit of wisdom, more than a bit of

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wisdom, a profound statement of wisdom from the ancient Greek physician 2500 years ago, Hippocrates. the relevance of Hippocrates is to this day upon graduation from medical school. The graduates take what is called the Hippocratic oath. Well, the Hippocratic Oath is primarily about first do no harm. Well, Hippocrates also

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made a profound statement that's of timeless value. In his day, he said, Let your food be your medicine and let your medicine be your food.

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So that was true, then it

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True now, but foods cannot be patented, and the driving force behind the conventional allopathic medical industry, as it was actually created by not a scientist, not a doctor, but by john D. Rockefeller and his people about 100 years or so ago,

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the driving force of that of that industry

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is to come up with unique chemical compounds that can be patented, you cannot patent a natural substance. You cannot patent an herb you cannot patent a vitamin or mineral you can only patent unique chemical compounds, these unique chemical compounds that are then marketed to the, to the public, as, as medicines as prescription drugs.

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They're totally foreign to the human body.

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But

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they are promoted by the mainstream medical establishment which is, which has authority status with the public, they're promoted as science based evidence based medicine. And this is the best way to help people. Really, really, it's the best way to help people to have them take

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foreign chemicals into their body that may be

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effective in inhibiting or stimulating some aspect of a person's biology to reduce a symptom. But because they're totally foreign chemicals to the human body, they always come along come along with what are commonly thought of is commonly referred to as side effects. But I think that's, that's a inaccurate way to think of it, they're not side effects. When you get when you get bad reactions to taking a foreign chemical into your body. They're direct effects from taking the foreign chemical into your body, they may not be the they're not the the intended effect. But they're a direct effect of taking a foreign chemical into your body. And there's there's that's always a precarious thing to

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do. Now, there can be a place for taking

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prescription drugs, these foreign chemicals to for the management of symptoms and in the in the short run, but as you mentioned, Kelly Brogan Dr. Kelly Brogan, who's a who's an MD, she specializes in

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holistic nutritional approaches to helping people overcome so called psychiatric disorders, mental disorders, emotional disorders. And so she helps her patients with depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, she helps them actually rebalance themselves and actually helps to get them off of whatever whatever drugs they may be on. And she basically teaches them how to eat healthier and live healthier, so they can be healthier and free of depression and anxiety and other health problems. I mentioned this on a previous Dean show that

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the,

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the way we approached health problems at the optimal Wellness Center was, rather than treating the symptoms of disease or dysfunction, you know, rather than focusing on the person's specific medical diagnosis, we had a had a team approach a very holistic approach to basically teaching people how to eat healthier and live healthier, so they can be healthier. And I've mentioned this before, that what we really did for people was we taught them that really, the best way to overcome what you could call the darkness of disease or dysfunction is to turn up the light of your inner health.

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Build your health.

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So that that's the solution now.

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So if you're always has been, that's the solution, so honor your body by putting the right foods in your body, putting the right real foods, right. Okay, I'm sitting with a gastroenterologist and we're having a talk and I'm talking to him about this really simple concept about just going back to eating real food right, as you brilliantly brilliantly put it that you know, real food comes with a list of ingredients and real ingredients, not a list of ingredients that you know are are toxic chemicals, maybe put in there for a longer shelf life and, and whatnot. And he was talking about that, well, what's wrong with potato chips? They come from a potato. I wish you were there was

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instinct. It was a real short conversation because then

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we got split apart but then he said okay, ice cream, it comes from dairy. What's wrong with ice cream? How would you address that? So potato chips

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Let's go with those two potato chips and for the average and this is a doctor. So now he's saying something that logically to him probably makes sense to a lot of people. Okay, potato chips come from a potato. Yeah, potatoes real food. But now you get the potato chip. And then ice cream is coming from dairy that comes from the cow. What's wrong with ice cream? Yeah. Well,

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the potato to make potato chips, it goes through a lot of processing. And to just keep it simple. The nutritional value of the of what's in the potato in the process of making it a potato chip is seriously damaged. And it's adulterated. you're you're you're actually subtracting nutritional value from the potato as you're processing it to make potato chips. And then you're actually adulterating it by adding things to it. Like MSG very likely or some type of preservative chemical preservative that is only going to be another burden to the body's toxic assault from from living in the modern world.

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Same thing with ice cream, you know, yeah. when when when the cream was fresh, raw cream, if it was from a healthy animal out that's that's real food. That's real nutrition. But when you take the ice cream, and then you you adulterate it by you know adding sugar to it and artificial or even so called natural flavorings. Natural flavorings are often industry, processed food industry code word for MSG. For people that I don't know what is what, what is actually MSG. What does that mean? It stands for monosodium glutamate. And it's highly prized by the commercial process food industry. Because it's a taste bud exciter it stimulates the taste buds so it can make poor quality food

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tastes better. And that's what that's what is being used in the in the commercial process food industry. They're not using high quality food they're using they're using very low quality, poor quality food. They don't care about the quality of food because they know that their food chemist can make anything tastes good. By using chemical additives that are often listed as natural flavors on processed foods like MSG, MSG, MSG not only excites the taste buds, a lot of people may know that. But I think very few people understand that MSG also has addictive qualities to it. So when someone opens up that bag of potato chips, that has salt, but also it has a natural flavoring on it

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now, not always but it could be it could be that that natural flavoring is actually MSG. And so when someone opens up that bag of potato chips and they start eating it, they have one and then they have they want another one and another one and another one. They don't, they don't the average American consumer doesn't begin to understand how their eating behavior has been and continues to be manipulated through chemistry, that behavior of just having one potato chip after another after another until the whole bag is gone. That eating behavior has been chemically imparted into the food.

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So I want to restate something I said on my very first appearance of the deen show several years ago now. And this is always

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something to keep in mind. It's my simplest and most basic teaching on nutrition and it's always relevant and that is if you want to be real healthy, then eat real food. And real food is simple food that does not come with a label with a list of ingredients. The more labels you're reading, the more you're actually making to put it kindly less than the best choices but the more labels you're reading you're you're going down the wrong path. Yeah. So you know all of the best, most wholesome nourishing real food, it doesn't come with a label with a list of ingredients I'm talking about fresh meats, especially from properly raised healthy animals. You know, they'll allow meats and and

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also eggs and and dairy products from healthy animals and also fresh whole vegetable and fruit nutrition.

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I would encourage everybody wherever they are, wherever they are listening to take advantage of the farmers markets in your area.

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The the more the more fresh, locally grown food you eat, the better that is going to be for your your health. The fresher your food, the better and ideally it would

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It'd be great if it's

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organically grown certified organic. But if it's not taught to the talk to the people at the farm, see and talk to the farmer if he if he's there and ask them about their growing methods, there's a lot of farmers who use organic practices, but they're not certified organic because the USDA Organic certification, like the government tends to do with everything has become an increasingly bureaucratic and expensive process. And I know some I know some farmers who are there they're using, even beyond organic farming practices, but they're not certified organic because they just don't want to, they don't want to go along with you know, the government bureaucratic procedure. And in

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there are some other certifications that are worthwhile, like certified naturally grown certified naturally grown is kind of more of a grass grass roots level, mostly run by by farmers and, and, and people who are working without government involvement.

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So what I've seen the pattern here is like you You make these adjustments, and you start eating real food, these lifestyle shifts and changes, the quality of life gets better. And you start living better. You talk often about the brain fog, energy levels, all of these things that help for a better quality of life. And actually Dr. Kelly Brogan and others you mentioned another doctor it was Dr. Weinstein was it are some Dr. Brownson, Brownstein, Brownstein, many of them just like her who testify that they were getting to a point falling into despair almost because they felt like they weren't helping people. They weren't really solving the people's problems. But when they started to

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help people in this way with lifestyle changes, adjustments, checking how people are sleeping, what they're eating, quality of life started to really get better. And they had to go out of the box because, you know, conventional medicine doesn't teach these things. So they're restricted to just the drugs.

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A simple way to put that is Dr. Dr. David Brownstein, Dr. Kelly Brogan, Dr. Jonathan Wright, Dr. mercola when when he was doing his good doctoring, when he was still seeing patients a long time ago.

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What what they were doing was ultimately was they were working with a person's biology rather than manipulating it with with foreign chemicals that can be patented, you know that that has been and continues to be the driving force of the conventional medical establishment. It certainly is the driving force for the pharmaceutical industry to to come up with unique chemical compounds that can be patented. Because once you have a patent on something, you can make a lot more money. That is something that you can't get a patent on like you can't patent. You can't patent natural vitamins and minerals and amino acids and essential fatty acids, no natural substance can be patented. So

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what do you know about these stem cells? therapy? Do you know anything about that? Well, no, I don't I don't know much about that. Edie, but I do know that our body naturally produces its own stem cells that are involved that our body draws upon when we have some type of injury in our body uses the stem cells to help repair tissue to help regenerate

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any type of damage, including, you know, stem cells are used by by our body on a day to day basis just for normal, just ongoing maintenance of the human body. You know, part of the dynamic of our biology is there are cells, old cells being kind of sloughed off every day you know old cells are being replaced with with newer cells on an ongoing basis. This is you know, certainly true with red blood cells that your body's making new red blood cells every day make a new white blood cells every day, certain cells in our body like our skin cells, our epithelial cells that line the interior of our body but also the exterior body, you know, they they are being replaced every few days. For

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instance, just a simple example that everybody may relate to is like if you accidentally bite your tongue or like the inside of your cheek and sure it's it hurts a lot but

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if you're if you're if you're healthy and well nourished enough, that'll completely heal.

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With with some people like the last time I accidentally bit my tongue, it was completely healed within a few hours. Now, you know, someone someone else it may take a little bit longer, but it heals very, very rapidly. rapidly. The body does have a god given innate intelligence and capability to know how to heal to know how to be healthy. The direction of our lifeforce energy is always toward healing and health. If you cut yourself, it heals.

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You don't even have to think about it. It could help if you actually gave some conscious attention to it certainly wouldn't hurt, but you don't have to. We do have this God given innate intelligence and capability to know how to be healthier body wants to be healthy, the body's always trying to be healthy. But the health is not meant as not realized magically, we need to get our nutrition and the other fundamentals of self care of life. Right enough. For instance, there's no substitute for a good night's sleep. And if you're, if you're off balance, if you're not feeling very well, if

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if you're tired,

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if you're if you're just not, not feeling right, then the earlier you can get to bed before midnight, the better that will be for helping your body to rebalance. The sleep issue is not just a quantity issue, how much you sleep, it's also a quality issue. And the quality issue has a lot to do with when you go to sleep. There's an old nature of Pathak understanding goes back at least 100 years, possibly longer than that, but it goes like this every hour of sleep before midnight, is worth at least two hours of sleep after midnight. And I tried to bring this to life for people in a practical way, by you know, asking them just from your own life experience. You know, have you ever

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gone to bed, you know, say at one o'clock in the morning and then slept eight hours and gotten up at night? Almost everybody will say yeah, I've had that experience, you know, stay up late go to bed at one get up at nine. Okay, now that's eight hours of sleep. Does that feel the same as going to bed at say 10 o'clock and getting up at six. And without exception? Everybody says going to bed at 10 and getting up at six feels better? Is that true for you? I do it is true. For me. It's true for everybody. That's just one example of what I'm saying here about the earlier you go to bed before midnight, the better that is for supporting your body's ability to repair regenerate, you know,

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heal, rebalance, restore and regain function. So

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if someone is off balance, and their body is in need of some serious repair, regeneration healing work, I've recommended to people you know go to bed, ideally no later than like 730. You know, the earlier the earlier you can go to bed before midnight.

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That's practical for your lifestyle, the better it is for supporting your body's ability to heal, but there is no substitute for a good night's sleep. And a good night's sleep is largely determined by when you go to bed.

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As well as you know sleeping a sufficient quantity of time. So we're talking about lifestyle changes. I also had another person who's a pioneer out there trying to educate people as a holistic doctor, Dr. Sade madiha, she links a lot of the ailments, you know, with this bad food, and then it triggers inflammation in the body, and then the inflammation from there, you start having many of these chronic issues. Now, how do you go ahead? So we're talking about drugs, these drugs, they manage some symptoms, but they come at a cost. And you could be taking one drug that's not actually getting to the root of the problem. We're trying to get to the root of the problem by adjusting your

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lifestyle cutting out certain toxic foods incorporating good foods. Now, how do you determine from their gym, where Okay, like for instance, I just had, we just had a tragic situation with my father, who got hit by a van. He wasn't in the van. He was walking got hit by the van. So now ambulance comes now that's a trauma situation, then they take the CAT scans make sure you know he's not bleeding from the head and all that. So how do you determine Okay, that's in this situation versus now? For?

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Where do you determine, you know, where it's effective, where it's not so effective. The urgent Well, my senior the conventional medical staffs when it's at their best and urgent care, immediate care, like this situation with my father, yeah, that's where they function on obsessed trauma, trauma, trauma, that's a trauma situation, the the the more the more someone the more serious someone's injury, you know, the more they can be helped by the conventional medical establishment

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90% of

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of medical treatment in the country, though, is for chronic problems, you know, not not acute problems, not not accidents. You know, just give or take a few percentage points on that number. But the vast majority of medical care that people seek out is not for acute problems. It's for chronic problems that are ultimately related to people not nourishing themselves properly.

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too much stress in their lives not getting enough sleep, not getting their self care. Like, they need to get it in order to realize a, you know, a good level of health. So

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in regard to your father, unfortunately being injured like this,

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you know, that's going to be a big stress on his biology, it has been a big stress on his biology. And the more stress on our biology, the more important nutrition is to support the body's ability to heal to repair to rebalance.

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So the better your father's nutrition, the the better his recovery will be it but there's certainly I certainly appreciate that there is a place for your father right now for for medical treatment. And, and hopefully they're, they're giving him the very best cure that they're they're capable of giving him.

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Any I would like like to add one other thing in regard to drugs, never addressing the cause of health problems with the possible exception of, of

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insulin for a insulin dependent diabetic.

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And that's the issue with antibiotics. Now, someone may say, Well, antibiotics are all we are addressing the cause because they're killing germs. Yes, they are. But we have an immune system, and our immune system, if it's functioning properly, because we're getting our nutrition good, and we're getting the rest of our self care practices well enough.

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If you have if you have a healthy immune system, that is your best defense against infections. And so when someone takes an antibiotic for infection, I can understand that yet, there can it can seem like Well, that's the best thing to do in the short run. And unfortunately, I think there's a lot of people who actually are in a their health is is is is such that they actually they need that type of treatment because they they don't have a healthy immune system. But

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when you are taking antibiotics, because your immune system was too weak to take care of some type of germ you got exposed to

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the antibiotics, they don't strengthen your immune system. In fact, antibiotics can further weaken your immune system and actually set you up for recurrent infections, which we had a lot of this of people at the optimal Wellness Center

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often had

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history of

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antibiotic ongoing antibiotic usage for recurrent infections, sinus infections, respiratory infections, bladder infections.

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And

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it was an ongoing thing they were like on a on a on a treadmill of meeting antibiotics on an ongoing basis, because

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they were not actually strengthening their immune system and ultimately, they weren't, they weren't addressing the cause of why they develop the infection in the first place, their immune system was compromised Yeah. And so

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we do have a god given innate intelligence and capability to be healthy, but we need to take care of ourselves properly, you need to to to honor your body with the best quality food that is available to you and be attentive to the other fundamentals of of self care, you know, which are number one actually is breathing I personally don't miss a day of breathing exercise. Number two, the quality and quantity of water that you're drinking Of course, that's a fundamental influence and everybody's health because our body is mostly water. And then of course, food we spend most of our time talking about food but that's eating real food at voiding fake food. That's right. But you know, food is

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actually of third importance, you know, if you had to like like you know it during Ramadan especially if you had to you could go long periods of time without eating

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you know, go weeks without food if you if you wanted to, it might not be a very pleasant experience, but the human body can go weeks without food, we can go days without water, how long can we go without breathing? If you're really good at holding your breath, you know, maybe a little more than a few minutes but most people you know, can't even hold their breath for

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a minute. But

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any any type of breathing exercise you know, that you know to do that helps you to feel good while you're doing it prioritize putting time into that every day.

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You can improve the quality of your breath if you give some focused attention to doing conscious breathing exercise, but the other fundamentals of health that I want to mention after breathing water, food or sunlight, fresh air, exercise activity movement, all of the above and sleep. Okay. Now what I mean by fresh air, I mean getting outside and having having a relationship, you know, with, with with, you know, God created nature, you know, it's like everybody

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getting out in nature, everybody feels better outside on a nice day than they do indoors. Yeah.

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I think I don't think that's an overstatement. I there may be some exceptions to the hour, some people actually feel better indoors, but on a nice day, you know, people naturally are attracted outside.

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And so, what I mean by fresh air is I mean having, having appreciation for being for being out in nature, you know, getting fresh air, you know, taking in, you know, the, the God created wonders of nature, you know, beautiful sky and, you know, you know, all the different you know, being out in the woods or in a forest or along the lake shore or the ocean shore. That's, that's I do believe that's all nourishment for, for, for, for us,

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in some very, very important ways. But also, the very simple practice of of grounding yourself, which is simply walking bare feet. On the earth, especially along the lake shore and ocean shore. I saw Dr. mercola interview

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a very successful holistic minded, nutritionally minded cardiologist by the name of Dr. Stephen Sinatra, a lot of your, your, your viewers that he may be familiar with that name if they're, if they if they

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are into natural medicine or, you know, checking out doctors that that offer a more holistic approach to building health than what is found in the in the conventional mainstream. But Dr. Sinatra and Dr. mercola were talking about different practices that can be good for circulatory health and I found it

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very enjoyable to hear. Dr. Sinatra actually seem to be most enthusiastic to recommend

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the the act of grounding yourself by walking on wet sand along a lake shore or an ocean shore. And what that means practically speaking, is that everything in our body runs electrochemically everything in our body runs electrochemically especially in the brain and the nervous system. And we can actually experience a buildup of excess electrical activity induced by stress, stress induced electrical, excess electrical activity in our biology can be discharged though, by simply putting your bare feet

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on on wet sand along the lake shore and ocean shore you could even just take some sand and throw some water at it that may work as well. We do usually you know what we do we actually put our, our Florida fall on the ground beautiful pray five times a day. Yeah, yeah. But you know, you want to actually do that, of course, ideally, right directly on the earth or, or because you want to actually come and touch or you want to

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make touch with make contact with the earth. So you give your body a chance. That's how it was back in the day when we didn't have the carpets and

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people were actually getting more in contact with the area. So so in the the best place to do this is away from where there's likely to be any electrical power lines, you know, that's why doing it along the lake shore and ocean shore is the most reliable way to do it. But, you know, you may be able to ground yourself very well on a really nice grassy area or even you know, just a nice area of, of dirt.

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But

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it's it's it's something that is very much taken for granted about actually having a physical connection with the earth is actually very valuable for helping your body to discharge a stress induced excess electrical activity. In fact, there was a practitioner at the optimal Wellness Center, Jeff Meisner,

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who gave a lot of attention to this and in his in his work with with the

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Patients who came there and so

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yeah, that's, that's that's part of what I call fresh air, you know, having appreciation for, you know, connecting with,

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with nature in a variety of different ways instead lifestyle, those lifestyle adjustments. And thank you very much. Thank you for being with us, Jim, tell us if people would like to get ahold of you to learn more, is there a website or a number or? Well,

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I am currently not seeking any new people to do nutrition and health education with but

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there is someone who's actually been on the deen show. Who has trained with me, who is like one of your students? Yes, yes. Yes, Miss Michelle Gillespie and I've given out her contact information on a previous interview but

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you could

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on the on the web page when you post this the show we can put Michelle Gillespie's contact information again, for people who are looking for get her website up there. Yes, yes. Yeah. For people who are looking for some

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specific guidance. I think she would be especially valuable to for helping women and and and their children. Yeah. And,

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you know, helping people to better understand

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how to

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how to how to really

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get the best quality, real food and their daily meal plan. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Jim. Marlo. Thank you for being with us here. Always a pleasure. Hey, thank you so much.