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video here, I support the Muslim women students will not be allowed to wear the hijab
the Hindu Sikh community, they wear the turban all over from what you've seen from the Muslim community so far in terms of the protests, etc. But
it's been peaceful. Yeah, India's judges are also highly Islamophobic. Now, many, many of them would
say, yes, the police in India are historically anti people as a Hindu here who's coming on to go ahead and create awareness on this great injustice that's going on
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singled out hamdulillah Salam aleikum, greetings of peace. Welcome to the D show. And I'm here with the advocacy director. I'm James, how are you? Thank you. How are you doing? I've been here you sit on Linko. But you're not Muslim. You're here. Yes. But as salam ala, whom is greeting for everybody, Muslims and non Muslims, a beautiful greeting isn't Yes, absolutely. It's amazing. Now, you are one of the few people I really want to commend you. Because you are coming out even though you're a Hindu, you're seeing the injustice is that are happening and you're speaking out against them. Yes, yes, that's true. So I want to commend you for that. And I want to ask you, in the recent years, why
are we seeing such a rise in violence and bigotry against Muslims in India? Right. So let me first just say to you, that being a Hindu, it is my duty, being a Hindu, to fight for justice and against injustice against all people everywhere. That is, in fact also the message of the Holy Quran. That is the message of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Prophet Muhammad always said, you have to fight against injustice, no matter who it is, for no matter who were in which part of the world he did not say, you only fight for injustice, you only fight for justice and against injustice. For Muslims. He said, you fight for justice for all people.
What's happening in India is very unfortunate. I am an Indian. I am Hindu. I come from India. And for all my life since I was born and raised. We did not see or experience any discrimination. Yes, there were structural discriminations, of course against people, because it's a work in progress. that society has many, many faultlines, but the kind of attacks on Muslims that we have witnessed in the last eight years, and I say eight years because it was eight years ago, in the month of May 2014. That India's current prime minister, Narendra Modi, he came to power that under Modi is a bigot. He is a Hindu supremacist. He is an Islamophobe. He is a hater of Muslims. He is somebody who
has presided presided over a massacre of Muslims. The render body belongs to a party called the Bharatiya Janata Party that translates as Indian People's Party. There is nothing Indian about it. It is a vile party. It is a vicious party with a horrible, horrible ideology driving it. Because the BJP is an offshoot of a much larger organization. That organization is called the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. That's a mouthful. It's the original is an Indian language. It translates as National Volunteer Corps. The RSS as it is more popularly known, was founded in 1925. So it's about to complete 97 years on just one ideology and that is the ideology of Hindu supremacism. The
ideology of Hindu supremacism or it is also known as Hindutva is very explicit and it says India belongs only to the Hindus, non Hindus such as Muslims and Christians are foreigners. They are aliens, they do not belong to India.
India should be run only by the Hindus for the Hindus and Muslims and Christians should not have even should not have fundamental rights should be treated worse than second class citizen. That is the ideology of the RSS. The RSS is the ideological parent of the BJP. The BJP is in power in parliament in India, which brought Mandarin Modi into power as prime minister. And that is why this ideological movement this political party being in power in India, it has been driving the violence against Muslims all across India, leading to mob lynchings of Muslims, leading to demolitions of Muslim homes and businesses, leading to acts of vandalism and desecration and demolition of Muslim
places of worship, such as masks as well as Eid, gah, Madonna. All of that is being done. And now they're trying to get Muslims deny Muslims their citizenship by bringing a new citizenship law. That is what is happening in India. You said Muslims and Christians? Yes. So why do you see a lot of Christians here from America? A lot of politicians, they're Christian, why are they supporting such a movement that is against them? And why do you also have many countries? Even you've seen some Muslim countries giving awards to this individual? Well, it is confusing. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with your brother. And it is this. This is the problem with foreign policy for most countries, you
can accuse the American foreign policy of many things, but you can't accuse it of being long sighted or being of being, you know, on the right side of human rights. The problem is that most countries cannot see beyond their noses. Now, that is a critical flaw in the formulation of foreign policy, the United States of America, and of course, organizations such as mine, the Indian American Muslim Council, and most other organizations we work with, we have been battling the American system, the policymaking universe, to do the right thing, and to call out bigotry and hatred in India, and to call out the Indian government's failure to control that bigotry and hatred. And indeed, we are
getting to some point where the US government and its officials and agencies have started talking about it. And going forward, God willing, we will see more and more response. But yes, we talked about Christians also because India has more than 30 million Christians. But India has 200 million Muslims. It is only in a country the size of India, which with 1.4 billion people. Well, that you can see that you can say that a group of people who number 200 million is a minority, that's the Muslims. So the foreign policy of all these Muslim countries, so called Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, which has given an award to Modi, or the UAE, the United Arab Emirates, which are now in a
partnership with Modi, all of these countries, they do not truly reflect the will of the people. There is no question that the people in most of these countries are horrified at the human rights violations, not just against Muslims, but all people that are being committed by the government of the day. This is supposed to be the biggest one of the biggest democracies in the world. It is the largest democracy in the world. Okay. Then they have a police force. Oh, my goodness. Why is the police force not stopping the lynchings not stopping the brutality that's happening against the innocent Muslim population? Great question. Absolutely. Great question. Brother. I thank you for
asking me that question. The police in India are historically anti people. The modern police in India, they were constituted by the British when they ruled India for more than 100 years, almost 200 years. And they left only in 1947. The police were deployed by the British to suppress and crush the opposition to British colonial rule. So the Indian police are fundamentally anti people. They're designed to be anti people and anti democratic, not very different from the police and most colonial countries. You go to Egypt. I was there in 2011. In Egypt during the Arab Spring, I was at my Danita hurried, and I went into police stations, I spoke to local people and they said the police is the
most brutal tool of oppression against us. So on all these countries, you go to Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Egypt, most of these colonial for former colonies of the British Empire, the police, you will find are the most oppressive elements of the of the administration. The same is true plus, in addition to that, the police in India are heavily dominated by the Hindus, not just any Hindus, but upper caste Hindus, Hindus that are Brahmins that are tacos that are I don't know about bananas, but definitely Brahmins and tacos. Now, those upper caste Hindus in the Indian police, they're not just anti Muslim, they're anti lower castes also. That is why you find you will
To know that the average custodial killings in Indian police stations and prisons, numbers between eight and 10 a day so you have a day? Yes, sir a day you have more than 3500 custodial. And these are the ones that are recorded, right, more than 3500 custodial killings a year in India. I mean, just this century, we have seen more than 70,000 people who have died 60 to 70,000 people who have died in custodian killings. Now, there they are very violently anti Muslim, they are Islamophobic. And therefore, and on the other hand, the Muslims of India have very little representation not just in the police, but in the entire criminal justice system. Although the police of Muslims are more
than 12% in India's population. They're hardly one or 2% in India's judiciary, you will find hardly one or 2% of judges in India are Muslims. Likewise for for lawyers and project government prosecutors, there is likewise for the police. Likewise for administrators. So, the Muslims in India are truly a dispossessed and a disenfranchised minority. They are large, that 200 million, and yet they do not have representation. And now because of the politics of the BJP, and the way that this This party has come up, this is in fact, Mr. Modi, the Prime Minister's government today in India is the first government since India became independent 75 years ago, that does not have a single Muslim
as a lawmaker, that nurse does not have a single Muslim as a minister. That is why the Muslims are facing the brunt of oppression and violent violations of human rights from the government as much as from the non state actors. And there is nothing that anybody can do. Is it a fair assessment? And that leads into my next question, how strong is the Hindu nationalism extremism here in America, but is it a fair assessment if we call it because for the for the layman to understand when you say k k k,
this being synonymous with the K K K movement or even more extreme? Yes, so the kk k war capes, right? The Hindu nationalists in America do not wear capes. So let me just clarify at the very beginning. Hindu Americans are a model immigrant community. Many, many, many of them are great people. They are the true. They're true Democrats. They live in America. They have integrated themselves in the American society in a great way. They are loyalists, that great patriots, the great citizens. They are doctors, they are engineers. They are businessmen. They hold high positions. As we all know companies like Google, Microsoft, are run by Indian origin people.
At the same time, there is a minority of Hindu Americans in America who adhere to this ideology of Hindu nationalism. Just a few months ago,
a leading Hindu, a leading Indian American activist named 10 Marie sunder Rajan was invited by Google to do a speech on caste based discrimination. 10 Melisandre Rajan is a Dalit, the Dalit caste is a former untouchable caste the most unfortunate aspect of Hindu society is that it is vertically divided in different castes. And this is unique to the Indian Indian Hindu society. So, there are lower the top castes are called Brahmins and the lowest caste are called Dalits. And there was a time in India and there still are some people in India who do not even like to be touched by a Dalit. There are cases in which a Dalit Man Marries a Brahmin woman and the Dalit man is killed is
murdered. Yes. They're called untouchables. They were called untouchables. Right? And it is against the law in India to discriminate against the Dalit people. Now Tenma is on the Rogen is a is a fiery activist. She is an amazing woman and amazing activist. She lives in the United States. And she was invited to speak at Google. More than 3000 people in Google wrote to Google executives Google leadership and said we don't want her to speak. Now, it is suspected that many of these 3000 people are upper caste Hindus working in Google. So and then there are organizations Hindus speaking up against this Hindu. She is not Hindu, she's done it. She's done it, yes, because she does not
consider herself Hindu because they discriminate against her, but the Hindus consider the Dalits to be part of Hinduism. It's complicated brother, all right. But let me come back to the point. The point is that our organizations such as the Hindu swayamsevak, Sangh, HSS, which had a mirror image of the RSS, there is an organization called the Vishwa, Hindu Parishad of America, which basically translates as well into Council of America, which has the same name as the Wishman do partition of India which is built into Council. You look at them, you look at their activities, you look at their ideologies, they seem absolutely to be joined at the hip. Then there is Hindu American Foundation,
which has recently filed lawsuits against so many people because they
I barely said, Well, these Hindu organizations are connected with the Hindu government organizations in India and it bristled at the idea and filed a defamation lawsuit. But if you look at the politics of Hindu American foundation, they're completely in sync with the with the oppression of Muslims back in India. So and then there is there is an organization that called itself overseas Friends of the BJP. Oh f BJP in a BJP is the is the acronym for the ruling party of India, the BJP now this one called itself overseas Friends of the BJP. It's been in existence for more than 20 years. And in 2020 election cycle, it just rushed to register itself as a foreign agent. So what does it mean? It
leads us to suspect that it is actually getting money from India. Otherwise, why would you register yourself as a foreign agent in America? This is called overseas Friends of the BJP. Now, when you have all these organizations in America, you know clearly that they're up to mischief. And that mischief is Hindu nationalism. Now that this these people, they go around the country trying to influence the interfaith community, the school boards, the police departments, the city council's the mayors, the House of Delegates in various states and legislatures, the state governors, and of course, US lawmakers, they try and influence all of them and say, Hey, do not go against India, do
not speak on human rights violations in India, do not speak about do not take any action on the minority on violations of minority rights and that a bulk of these people, these organizations, they do that. And that is why we consider them to be fairly strong. But brother we are what we know in our hearts is, history is on our side.
The whole idea, that repression, bigotry, discrimination has no future. In a world that is increasingly liberal, that is increasingly progressive, that is increasingly pluralist, we are confident that these organizations will bite the dust in the United States of America, their ideologies will bite the dust in the United States of America. And we will succeed in ensuring that the flag of pluralism keeps on flying high. But in order to do that, we have to fight the good fight and continue doings I want to get your reaction to this video here. I support the killing of the Muslims and the Sikhs in the Republic of India because they deserve to die tenable. Filmed I believe
in Canada. I don't know if you know this individual. No, I don't openly advocating to imagine kill Muslim, not just Muslims, but confused as Muslim Sikhs imagine. Yeah, this is Islamophobia. This is pure Islamophobia. Now this unfortunately, is it. So this is just an example. I can imagine if someone's brave enough to do that here. What are they doing over there where they have the backing of the police and the military and the government?
Right, right. So yes, so we just saw
an affidavit has been submitted by a by an individual in an Indian court just three days ago, who is a former member of the RSS the paramilitary in the nationalist movement, and he has gone on record in a call to say that the RSS is involved in bombings across India, which is then blamed on Muslims, and they are arrested and that they are sent away to prison for years upon years. So the artist says, The the ideological organizer parent of the BJP, the ideological founder of the these Hindu organizations in America, such as the HSS, the Hindu American foundation, the
semi International, or the bunch of these organizations, the vision operations of America. It's fundamentally a Nazi Empire inspired a fascist organization, which has been involved in violence for decades. And that is the truth. So it's a violent ideology, and they are exporting violence of language, violence, indeed, all around the world. Tell us before we conclude, we saw recently not too long ago on what happened with the case where you had the Muslim women's students were being discriminated against their hijab. What's the latest with that? Yes. So the latest with that is that India Supreme Court has listed that case for a hearing. Now, this happened in the month of January,
in a state called Karnataka, it is in the south of India. That state is ruled by the BJP, which is the party of India's Prime Minister Modi, I talked about substantially, I talked about this political party. This is a hardcore Islamophobic anti Muslim party. It's a because they have no this is something very important we understand. The various state governments run by the BJP and the federal government of Prime Minister Modi has been hugely inefficient. They have failed at governance over the years. India has
has been sinking into poverty, more and more hundreds of millions of people are more and more sunk into poverty now than they were before Mr. Modi came to power due to hide their gun failures of governance. They keep on harping on the anti Muslim policies. That's what they do. So this happened in the state of Karnataka where the state government out of the blue for no reason? Absolutely. It's it's sent out it created a new law saying Muslim women's students will not be allowed to wear the hijab. Now that has become numb 1000s of Muslim girls have lost their year, they could not even take the exams because of it. They went to the State High Court.
The State High Court did not accept that petition, because that, like I said, India's judges are also highly Islamophobic. Now many, many of them, and they are there they are giving completely partisan rulings. It is laughable. It's shocking how the Indian judiciary has collapsed under the pressure of Hindu nationalism. It's completely unbelievable. There was a time not too long ago, when by and large, the Indian judiciary was considered non partisan. It was considered in many ways on par with Western democracies. But now the Indian judiciary has completely collapsed and under under the weight of Hindu nationalism. So the High Court in Karnataka, it ruled against the Muslim woman.
They immediately went to the Supreme Court in the month of February and the Supreme Court said, oh, there is no rush to hear this case. So as a result, 1000s of Muslim girls and women have lost their year. Now the case has been listed before the Supreme Court, I can only pray that the Supreme Court will do the right thing, follow the Constitution of India, which is explicitly clear. And it says that no one shall be discriminated against on the basis of religion. But you never know with what's going to happen with the Indians. Yeah, that's a clear violation of something that's
it's a violation of international law. It is a violation of India's constitution to deny Muslim women from wearing that hijab to schools and colleges or anywhere because the Indian constitution, discriminate bars discrimination, the Hindu Sikh community there, were there turbine all over in schools and colleges, in their jobs in the army in the government everywhere. And they are not stopped. We I want to commend you once again. And would you be willing to come back on if we have someone from that party who wanted to come on? And go ahead, I would love to talk to them sit across the table and talk with Hindu nationalists in America. All right, if we doubt the weather, they will
join you. Well, we try to keep it open and fair and balanced. So if there's anybody for that party like to come on today's show, we'll bring our friend here on and let's get to the bottom of things. Take them on. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for your wonderful work and contribution as a Hindu here who's coming on to go ahead and create awareness on this great injustice is going on. Like I said, it is the duty of all right minded Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jan's Sikhs, Zoroastrians behinds Buddhists, it is everybody's duty, including the duty of people of non faith no have no faith, to fight for justice for everybody. God bless you. I cannot leave
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