Islam from Scratch #8

Other language teams will not matter of human hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala shopping missiny Syedna Mohammed not only HE WILL Sofia Germain, a beloved brother and sister, Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Zakopane, thank you so much for joining us. Listen number eight, Islam from scratch. Today we'll talk about

original sin, which is a very important topic within, you know, it's one of the biggest theological questions and the issue of women where women come come come from, I mean, last week, we spoke about angels and beliefs. We spoke with Adam. But up until this point, we haven't spoken about women. And so today we'll talk a little bit about the fader, six or mother Hawa or Eve, she is called.

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you know, that interesting name. So anyway, so Inshallah, if there are no questions, you know, then we're going to begin so last week, we were still talking about the, you know, we can continuing with the story of, of the Adamic story or the story of Adam, and the beginning of our creation as a species as a teacher, we spoke about the angels who they work with said that they are a, a group of a creation of Allah subhanaw taala. They came from light, they are perfect in the sense that they do not commit sin. They have no,

you know, instinct or desire, they don't procreate. There's no males or females who are amongst them. And it's part of our belief as Muslims, as we'll get to. Later in the series, we'll talk about the pillars of faith, to be a Muslim. You need to believe in six articles or six pillars of faith, the first one being that there is one God and Allah that He is alone, he exists, He is unique, he has no partners. That's the first pillar. The second pillar is actually believing in the existence of the angels. So one cannot be a Muslim, if you don't believe in the fact that they are angels. That is an angel Jibreel, Gabriel, the Archangel Michael McHale, and so on and so forth. So it's

really about the angels, when we say that there's an interesting race of creatures called the jinn.

And amongst them is bliss in the Islamic theology, he is Satan, he shaped lon and the Shaytaan, The, you know, Prime Evil, if you will. And we see the jinn are not evil, by the nature in fact that they are a civilization or a creation that existed before Adam was created. They are made of fire. They are unique in the in the creation as we are unique in our ways, there is no superiority between the different creations except as Allah says, in your proximity to Allah. Allah says in the Quran in Accra welcome in the light, a call from that the best of all of creatures is those who are closest in relationship with Allah subhanaw taala. And so he believes was from the jinn kind, and a lot of

questions you know, what asked about him, you know, what is his backstory? Because we find in the story of Adam, you know, Allah creates them, Allah creates men. And then he speaks to the angels and he says, the angels I'm going to create this this creature called man, and the angels, of course, are a bit reluctant. they're unsure about, you know, why are you going to create this beam with free will? Very important point is that of course the angels don't have free will. They don't get to choose, they just obey, whereas man we know is going to be given the ability to choose the ability to sin, the ability to disobey Allah the ability to reject him, though, but

To deny him to be an atheist and say you don't exist Allah to, to use all the blessings that were given against Allah to harm one another. And so the angel says we don't we don't understand why you would do this Allah, but Allah says, I know what you don't know. And and then Allah, of course, proves Adams uniqueness. You know before them he chose the angels that Adam is able to comprehend that which they cannot. And then Allah says bow down to Adam, the angels bow down. And then this creature called the police who refuses to bow down. Now he believes we know is the jinn. What's he doing with the angels? Why is he there? Why was he part of the angelic delegation.

And you know, spine a lot.

We don't have the backstory of either of the beliefs, we don't have a backstory to the Quran doesn't give us the details. And if it's not there, then it's not important to us. And you find many people find almost a sympathy, sympathy to IBLEES that there is this idea that he was a perfect worshiper, he was perfectly devoted to Allah. And all of a sudden he is belittled, he is would have humiliated before item. And naturally. So I mean, you know, you would feel how am I, you know, I've served you all this time. And now you making me bow before to him, I don't mind bowing to you allow to you, but up to him. And so there is a sympathy for Iblees. Now, we don't know the story, and we don't know

the back, you know, how he got there. But perhaps let's let this play out a scenario. And the Lima, Florida we say this to Allah is the best of analogies, we don't give Allah any kind of a likeness or stories or anything like that. But for our purposes, imagine for argument's sake, you have a boss of a company, a huge company, right? He's the he's the boss, and he's got an executive team, he's got a team of directors who are perfect, you know, they do everything, they follow every command, they don't miss a single day's work, they on a 24/7, you know, they're perfect. And then the boss walks by, and he sees this, this guy on the street, you know, this guy was selling fruit and vegetables on

the street and the boss, basically system, I'm going to give you a job, I'm going to promote you, and put you amongst my directors, I'm going to give you an opportunity. If you accept it, you're going to be amongst them, you're going to get the salary, like they get the salary, you're going to have the prestige and the honor of being amongst them, you will be close to me. But you're also going to be

you know, expected to fulfill the job of one of my directors do you take this, and he this guy comes from nothing, you know, he's been struggling, you know, and he takes the job. And he says, okay, and he gets to sit in the boardroom with all the directors, he gets a seat at the table. And over time, he begins to feel like he is you forget where he comes from, you know, he, you know, looks down on those, you know, beneath him in the company, he feels like, you know, I'm one of the big shots. And he starts having the sense of entitlement, the sense of self worth and pride and arrogance, okay, he fulfills whatever objective he does with a boss, he obeys the boss fully, but he has the sense of,

you know, I'm special. Then one day boss says to the team, the directors, and this, this guy that I found

a brilliant young man, you know, stay out of Harvard guy who comes from nothing, he's comes from a squatter camp, he, you know, he's, he comes literally from dirt. In fact, he is from that. But this guy is something special. And I'm going to give him

a seat at the table as well, the directors that have been all along this, why? Why are you going to do this?

You know, we don't understand it, you know, you're going to bring someone here who's just going to mess up the company who's going to do all kinds of mischief.

And the boss says to them, Look, guys, trust me, you know, I know something you don't know. And so this young guy, this guy that comes from the squatter camp, who's just recently qualified from all that he gets to sit at the table, and they have a huge crisis. And no one knows how to solve this crisis. And this young guy, this guy item, he's able to solve it, which no one else he comes up with a solution that nobody could come up with a solution. He knows what they don't know. He's able to understand things that they can understand. And so the boss says to the team of directors, didn't I tell you that this guy is special, that this guy has something that you don't? And then he says, now

going forward? I'm making him the CEO, and you can report to him after this. And there is the directors as well. That's your Well, you're the boss. We trust what you what you come on, and we obey. And so this if we will report to Adam going forward. Now, the guy that was you know, he believes in this analogy, but he's the one who was, you know, invited to be part of the directors earlier. He says, hell no. There's no way I'm going to report to this young man. He is from dirt. He comes from the squatter camp. He doesn't have any excuse.

audience, I am never going to report to him. And you know, the bosses to police? Are you out of Do you think so highly of yourself that you even going to go against Mike, come on, I'm telling you to report to Adam. And he says never, I will never report to him. I come from and I love it, Bishop Scott, look at all the things that I've done. Look at all the technical, there's no way I'm going to listen to this guy. And so the boss says, well, in that case, get out of the boardroom, you are expelled, you're no longer part of the team of directors, he believes says to Allah, your says to the boss, okay, don't fire me, give me a chance, let me stay in the company. And Allah says, Okay, I

will allow you to remain in the company, but you're not going to be with the directors anymore. And he says, Okay, thanks, don't terminate my contract yet. And then once he gets that, you know, that promise from the boss that he's not going to be fired, he says, Now, I'm going to stay in this company. And I'm going to make sure every step of the way, I'm going to ruin this company. And I'm going to go against, you know, Adam, and everyone else in your, I'm going to bring this company to the ground, and it's your fault, your fault. Oh, you know, Allah, you are the one that caused all of this. And you're gonna find that I'm always going to be sitting, you know, in the way to, to hamper

the progress. And so that is where we are with, with with beliefs and Adam.

So I hope maybe and again, Milan Malala. We don't know the backstory of beliefs, but when you understand when you look at things in a different perspective, it maybe gives you a better understanding to how things played out. And so at this point in time where we are, you know, Billy's has been expelled from the angels, but he's not completely away. You know, he's not in Jannah. He's not he's been given a chance to, to remain. Remember, he has free will, he can still choose his ways look like the angels. He hasn't been forced to commit any sin, Adam, you know, naive as he is, he doesn't know what is going on. He for the first time we

can can we all mute our mics? And if someone has a question, there's somebody have a question.

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Okay. So continuing the story with Adam. So at this point, now, Adam, is a way of of the angels is a way of release. And Allah subhanaw taala then says, to Adam, I basically going to create a partner for you and meet someone like you now remember, and we don't know that the timeframe here it could be could have been a long period of time, we Adam was the only one like himself. We were no other items. There were no other human beings. He seen the gene, he seen the angels he seen the other creations of Allah, but he's alone, and he is completely solitary. So Allah subhanaw taala, as we know, created for him a partner, someone like him, but also very different. And anyone that I spend

time with the psychology of men and women, we are the same and yet we are also very different. And so Allah says to us in the Quran, yeah, you went, Oh, mankind eat taco, have a relationship, Rebecca malady have a relationship with your Lord, Allah, the Holika, Coleman Neff, sinuata. That created all of you, the white people, the black people, the Indian people, the Malay people, the Americans, the Russians, all of you, Allah says we created all over the Muslims and non Muslims. You were all created Munificent. Wahida, that you were created from one soul, one entity, one person, one beginning, you all be have, you all know, you don't only have one set of parents, you actually have

one origin. wahala come in has algebra. And then from that one from that Adam, he created his XO, which his partner, his spouse, his is half basically about them in Houma. And from the two of them, Allah, Allah sent out scattered Regina and Catherine when he said many, many men and women, many generations of people came from these two, these two parents. So we began as one soul, that soul became a you know, a partner from that soul. And from the two of them, many, many generations were, were created. And then Allah says we're cool now. Yeah, I'm gonna say to Adam was going into was ojochal Jana. Oh, Adam, you and your wife, you and your partner Eve Hawa you can live in paradise in

Ghana. Now there's a big controversy. Is this the paradise that we will go to when we all hope to when we die? Or is it some of the word Jana it means paradise but linguistically, it means God and so Allah says oh you either you and your wife however, you may live in the garden. What will I mean Harada and you can eat from whatever you wish to ship tomorrow, wherever you want to go. Whatever you want to do. This is your your playground you can use the two of you can do as you please. However, we'll talk about how they shatter but don't come close to this tree. There's one tree you're not allowed to come in here to fat Hakuna minute volume in and if you were to come close to

it, you were to eat from it. You will become amongst those who are lost who have gone straight. Now a number of questions arise

If How was she created? How was she created?

We know from the Allah doesn't mention in the Quran explicit well Allah doesn't mention exactly how it was created exhibit she definitely came from either way as an in the, in the Prophetic narration in the story of the Prophet, the the sermons of the Prophet peace be upon him. And also what we know from the Bible, the Old Testament in the New Testament is that Eve was created from Adam. And it's mentioned from his. Now some, some people have taken offense to this, you know, if being there from the rib of Adam, but I want you to think about this item comes from that from sand, from lifeless,

from lifeless, Clay. We, as our mother Eve was created from something alive, she came from, like living matter, she came from a flesh and blood and she was created into

that's why part one of the one of the meanings of her work is that she comes from something which is alive, and she would then become the vehicle of life, that you know, women will be able to bring new life into existence, because she comes from living material, whereas item comes from sand, you know, I mean, we come from that, that dirt, if you will, we actually comes from something which is already created something which is alive, something which has in it, humanity, and from that, that is why she gives birth to two living children.

There's also this concept of and perhaps you've, you've been aware of it, and a lot of our discussion this evening is going to be about the position of women in Islam versus women in other, you know, other faiths, many people have taken the story of Adam and how to imply almost that there is an inferiority to Hawaii, that Adam is superior. And in Hawaiian Eve is kind of inferior, that she's created from the crooked with a bent rub. What the Hadith says is that however, our mother Eve was created from the rib of Adam, and the rib of Adam is curved. Why is it curved? Its job is to protect the heart, your ribs, what does it do, it protects your heart. I mean, he says to the

Prophet, peace, your Prime Minister speaking to the men, he says Your wife is different to you, she's created from something different to you, you created from one thing she's created from a living rib, and the rib as we know, it curves, it's curvy, and it's meant to be curvy, it's not meant to be straighten. And if you try to straighten a Europe, if you try to bend it, you're gonna break it, and it won't have any benefit or rub that doesn't have a curve in it is of no use. And so the Prophet says, you know, live with your wives with the way she was created, as you were created in a certain way mean you have certain abilities, you have certain ways of thinking, you have

certain personalities, you have certain physiological differences, women have uniqueness about them, the two sexes should not compete, or other the word zone, which means that you complement one another, that you are incomplete without your partner. And really what is beautiful about the story of Adam and Eve look, Adam is in Jannah, he has the free reign to do as he wants, he is on top of the food chain, he has the angels reporting to him, he has a direct link with Allah subhanaw taala. Yet he is incomplete.

Only when our mother Eve is created only when he has a wife is he fulfilled, is he happy. And this also speaks to something that we know of that in Islam part of Jana part of paradise, the ultimate paradise that we will hope to, you will every single person will have a partner in paradise, no one will be alone, because even Janna, even paradise is incomplete, without a partner without a mate, without a wife without a husband. And so Adam is incomplete. The only thing that he has the thing that fulfills him is his is his wife. Now, Allah says to the two of them, Adam and Eve, you may live in this garden, and you can come and go as you please, you may eat as you please, you have no

restrictions in this garden. But there is a tree in this garden, which you must not eat from. And Allah even says do not go close to it best for you guys, avoid it, don't go close to it. Because once you get close to it, that's when problems start to happen. And you no question about what is the story. Now a lot of the summer so far, a lot of what is being mentioned in the Quran is similar to what's in the Bible. In the Bible, the story is referred to as the tree of knowledge, that once Adam and Eve you know encounters this tree and they eat from this tree, they they become aware of certain things, they get certain knowledge and through that, that knowledge they are then expelled

from from heaven. And this is a fact that I don't mean to offend anyone, but this narrative was used by the church to almost say to people, you know, certain knowledge is restricted that if you learn certain knowledge, you would you would go astray.

And it's better to remain almost naive and almost ignorant like a child is best for you. The Quran doesn't agree with us, the tree isn't referred to as the tree of knowledge. We don't know what kind of fruit it was, well, apple tree, banana tree, who knows who cares is unimportant. This was purely a tree, which was as a test for Adam, you need to stay away from this story. And for a long period of time, Adam and Eve stayed away from it, they avoided and Allah then said to them for Corneria Adam, I will say to Adam, in the Heather, I don't want like Allah said to Adam and Eve that he believes he's still around. Remember, he's still part of the company. He hasn't been kicked out.

He's still around, he's still lurking is he's in some office in the in the basement, but he's still part of the company. Remember, be a way of urbanists, he doesn't mean you any good. He's your enemy. laka what is Oshika he also is an enemy to Eve fala regenda Kumar, Jannetty PotashCorp. So don't let the beliefs cause you to lose your position in the garden, and then you would suffer don't listen to Emily's don't let him mislead you. Now, some might say, Why is he still kept around? Well, as we said before, he hasn't done anything yet. Evil to Adam, he means him evil. He's disobeyed Allah. And but he hasn't done anything to harm Adam yet. And this is again to Allah's justice. He believes

promises, I'm going to do all these evil things. And Allah says if you do those things, he believes, then you're going to be punished. But until until you do the crime, you're not going to be human also going to punish you until you do the crime. And so Adam and Eve they live in Jana, in the garden, they come and go as they please. And then you have a police who's lurking, watching, trying to interact with them. And eventually,

if police is able to, to communicate with him, he believes somehow speaks to them. Allah says for worse was Allahumma IBLEES whispered to them he started talking to the solid, giving them certain, you know, communicating with him in some way was was secretly for what's worse. Allahumma Shavon shaytaan spoke to both of them. Liuba de Allahumma ma woodier and Houma Minh, so at EMA ACARA, and he believes it to the two of them. So there's a whole analogy here that, you know, they obviously they were unaware of the nakedness and he really started to whisper and, and beautify to make them aware of six antibodies, or color, once he believes was able to get the attention. He said, Manohar

Kuma, or Abu Kuma and Harvey shatterer, he said to them, your load hasn't prevented you from eating from this three Illa except an takuna Matatini except that if to prevent you from becoming angels, otaku, nominal Halloween, oh, that ought to prevent you from becoming immortal. Now, Adam and her were obviously became a way early on, that they're not angels, that they are different to the beautiful angels were the wings might have liked we, you know, we're not like them. We're not as powerful as the angels. They also, at some point, they became a way that they were mortal. And, as one one scholar might have been, you know, mentioned in the story at some point, perhaps and again,

we don't know the timeframe. And what was the thinking behind Adam and Eve,

when they were made a way that you guys are going to die, that immortality is not met, humans are not immortal, they obviously began to panic.

So again, going back to the the analogy of the company, alright, so Adam has been promoted. He's the CEO, and Iblees has been expelled from the boardroom, he is out somewhere in the basement. And you know, the angels are reporting to him reporting to him, and you know, everything is good. He gets married, he has a wife, and you know, he goes to his, you know, his mansion, and life is good. And then somehow he, you know, opens up his laptop and he finds this hidden folder, you know, folders never seen before, he opens it up, and there's a plan. And in this plan, it says, we're going to hire Adam. Eventually, we're going to relocate him to a place called the Earth, where he will live

for a while, and then he's going to die and Eve as well. And he's completely shocked. He never realized that there is a plan where he part of his plan is is going to die. And he begins to freak out. And he goes to the one or EB he interacts with the one guy that he's been avoiding all the time. He believes the guy who sits in the corner is never spoken to anybody. He's not speaks to the two of them and says, yeah, yeah, I'm aware you guys are gonna die. And you're not like the angels. You're not gonna be here forever. It's only temporary. And so he begins to whisper to them and it begins to other you know, out of the fear and desperation. He says, The only way you're going to be

saved, the only way you're going to become angels and you're not going to die. If you go to that tree and you eat from it, will cause some humor, and he swore to them in Nila coma, lemon and Marcin, he swore to them. I am

I'm the only one whose means good for you. I am your advisor. I am your sincere advisor trust me. There is no one that's going to tell you the truth besides me, and he convinced them what the left Fidella Houma Bureau and so he deceived them. He made them fall through deception. So eventually, they they believe in Belize, and they go to the three phenom Medaka Shudra. And when they tasted of the three it just was a moment they just, you know, tasted it, but at Loma so Atacama what they call a sci fi or any other human being maracas Jana and they they became aware of the nakedness. They were reached almost a level of sexual awareness, one adult human and then Allah calls out to them

when Adama or boohooman the Lord calls out to them and hakama until Masha, Allah says Did I not forbid you from eating from this tree? What Akula coma and I did not say to you in the shaytaan la coma, I don't mean and then I gotta warn you that Belize is your mortal enemy. And, of course now they are in serious trouble with Allah subhanho wa taala. Now we take a side note, if you have any questions, just take a quick break to ask any questions before we we go further from this point?

Anybody have a question?

If you just go through the list, I'm gonna pick on people because you guys refuse to engage with me. I see a harbinger George.

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Is a guest 5847. Any questions? None of you guys have any questions?

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So, yes, Zolani?

Go ahead.

Girl Like no one, if Adam had better understanding than the angels, and I bless, why would they listen to this one?

Convince them to test the tree. So remember, the fact that Adam

has knowledge has the intellect doesn't mean he knows everything. It doesn't mean that he has all the answers. And I mean, we can we can we can relate to that. We know all we know what is right and wrong. We might be very smart, you might have a PhD, but you can still fall prey to some car salesman, some person who tricks you, because we're human, with our intellect and that is perhaps where we will get into with the section of discussion. What does it mean to be human? You we have a side of us that is very smart, very sincere.

That almost can have the ability to understand right from wrong, but we also have a side of us that can be mislead, a side of us that is weak, that has temptation that as desire. Remember, Adam and Eve at some, the fact that the Quran says that he believes convince them, they were reluctant. And the fact that the Quran says that they were deceived, which means that they were

you know, he obviously told lies to them, and that they were scared of dying. Now, think about this, you know, you have a wife, you love your wife deeply. And you know, everyone tells you, unfortunately, sir, your wife is going to die. And there's nothing we can do. And some you know, some strange person on the online sends you an email and says, you know, I've heard about your wife's condition. I know no one is going to kill her. I've got a miracle cure. So really said, Yeah, you know, that thing you're not supposed to take though the thing that your dad told you don't don't use that tablets, that is the cure. And you know, out of your desperation, you so much want it to be

true that you you take it. And so that is how it is overseas use the word through deception. And so the lesson for us for you and me that we can have all the facts in front of us, but we still fallible and we can still make the wrong choices, we can still make the wrong choice. Now. Thank you so much.

Zolani I've been pronouncing your name correctly for that question. Is there anyone else? Yes, go ahead. You raise your hand

you see someone else raising your hand? Go ahead. Well

I just have a question Satan, devil, please straight down.

So the word he believes is the name of of the of the first or this the the chief amongst them he believes is his name. Shape on or Satan.

So this is made English easier. There's Satan with a capital S v. Satan then gets urbanists you know the ark, Satan, the Ark deceiver, the main evil, the primeval, or that's his name is urbanists, and he's

shaytani V shaytaan. But the word in Arabic Shavon. And Satan comes from that Arabic word. It means anyone who actively deliberately works to mislead you, or take you away from your relationship with your Creator. And so the Quran speaks about a Shayateen, the devils the Satan's from men and jinn, you have people Satan's, you have people who all they do is create mischief. All they do is cause harm. They cause wars, they hurt people, these people are types of shaitan. Of course, they're not the bullies the shape on the the minor, the main one, but I mean even words like devil Diablos

beliefs, they all the same root word, they'll actually have a common common

root. And again, interesting, one of the arguments for the existence of Allah subhanaw taala is the fact that we know in all cultures, in all religions in all, you know, sort of different groups across the world there is this concept of evil, and we know that they are

sources of pure evil. And this this this is unified believe that there is a type of Satan or a police out there. I mean, I was watching a video of Satanists who are atheists, so they don't believe in a God but they believe in Satan was quite interesting. Something to think about. Anyway, does that qualify for for that question? I'm sorry. Is there any one last question before we continue?

Oh, buddy, there's a question Great, go away.

Gin die as well. So basically shouldn't do gin die, yes, gin, they die, gin die. In fact, angels also, they don't die a natural death, but they will come to an end. Remember, true immortality is only for Allah. Allah is the only one that does not die. At the end of time. We're everything comes to an end, the angels will come to an end. But the jinn yes, they live a very long life, but they will they do die. He believes, of course is exempted that he is been given a type of immortality until the end of time. So Ronnie, I think you animals up again.

You have another question?

No, no, no, no, no, no, the answer your question though.

Yes, you did. Fantastic. Great. Thank you so much for contributing. As you can see, I'm almost begging for questions you

should ask the user question. Go ahead box. Oh, in the in the chat box. Okay, let me just have a look. I can't see the chat box. Let me just open it up quickly.

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Right, so So Iblees definitely knows some things that Adam doesn't know, look, he believes has experience.

And in a longer hadith of, you know, when Adam was created, before you became alive, so the statue, the statue of Adam stood there for a long time. He believes there's a hadith we saw from the Quran, the prophet tells us this, we believe, approach the statue of Adam. And he basically said that this this creature, the fact that it's going to eat, it's going to drink, it has desires. This creature is something which I know how to deal with. I understand how he's going to work. He's not like the angels. This thing is something I can relate to. And I can I can easily overpower the beliefs already from from the beginning.

Had this concept that I know exactly how to deal with Adam in. So yes, but he doesn't know the future. I mean, it's not about knowing the future and unseen. Iblees is almost like a psychologist or a psychiatrist. You know, he knows and he understands human psychology. And so for every single one of us, he believes has been long enough to know how to

deceive us. He knows what we want, and how we will go about meeting it and putting the right ingredients in place for us to to fall. And so he used an Adam and Eve's fear of death, the fear of losing the Jana. He used that against them. And that's how they basically felt. Just the question, Sister Leila Lunt asks, If Adam is one of the prophets and we acknowledge his taste in trials, what was his way of being a messenger of Allah I feel like we only learn from the temptation mostly. So we haven't gotten to prophethood yet. Remember, at this point in time item is not on Earth. And prophethood implies being on Earth. And we'll talk about the revelation and we'll talk about the

relationship of

Have Allah and from item and we're going to learn our relationship with with with Allah Spandana. The test hasn't really actually begun on Earth. So getting back to

our slides, thank you so much guys for the for the questions.

Elise was able to deceive them. Now, there is a lot of discussion in the Old Testament in the Jewish and Christian faith around what happened. And ladies, unfortunately, you get a really bad rap in the Old Testament for this.

So the book of Genesis, it says, so when the woman saw that the three was good for food, and that it was pleasing to the eye, and the three was dessert desirable to make one wise. So again, three was the concept of the Bible is the three gives you knowledge, the Quran doesn't say that she took off its fruit and ate and then she basically gave it to her husband and he ate as well. So the Bible is very, very clear that in the book of Genesis, which is really the beginning of the Bible, that a lot of the blame Opia primarily, the blame is on on Eve, the story goes that, you know, Iblees Satan, he entered a snake. And the snake tried to, you know, deceive Adam for years and years and years. But

Adam, you know, he was too smart, too strong. And then when he saw there was an Eve, and you know, Adam has a soft spot for Eve IBLEES was able to manipulate her, and then she was able to seduce Adam into into eating from the tree. And because of that she was then seen as being spiritually inferior. She is seen as being the gateway to evil, the gateway that caused the harm is if she was the one that manipulated Adam. And so you find in the book of Genesis, the woman he said, he beat Allah, Allah said to her, I will terribly as a punishment to you Eve because of what you did. I will sharpen your birth pangs I'm going to make you get kids and you will go through labor and in pain

shall you be children, you're going to your punishment is that you will have children and you will menstruate, and you're going to have the pangs of birth, this is a punishment to you, and you will and for your for your man shall be your longing. And you'll you will always be subservient to your husband or to men, because you are because of what you did. That is your punishment. Right? So this is directly from the Bible. And you have for example, many of the

Great's Church Fathers,

Thomas Aquinas, for example, they would say, for example, when they speak about women, they said, Well, women are the devil's gateway, she is the Ancilla of the forbidden tree. She is the first deserter of the Divine. No, she's the first one who rejected Allah who destroyed God's image. And also Adam is perfect. But it was Eve that basically caused him to fall that in fact, women, according to, you know, these narrations of his beliefs is that a woman is basically a must be gotten male, you just an inferior version of Adam, that you were a mistake. You know, you couldn't be a man and therefore you were, you know, a deficient, deficient version of a man. And so

spiritually, women are seen as being inferior to men you find in the New Testament and Timothy, St. Paul basically says that I give no permission for a woman to ever teach a man she can never have authority over a man she must always be subservient to a man why? Because she was deceived. And Adam, she was the one that brought about the the fall of mankind.

What is the Quran say? The Quran has a very, very different take on the story. The Quran says, aka the two of them eight, forbidden Lahoma so the two Adam Adam and his wife, eight, and they became aware of the nakedness together, and they began the two of them made the sin. And then Allah says in this one verse is only one verse in the Quran where Allah says, wasa Adam, or abou for our an Adam disobeyed his Lord. And Adam made the mistake, if anything, the Quran, in this one verse, it kind of puts the blame more on Adam than her work. And it also says that he believes, spoke to Adam. It was a communication between Adam and Eve bliss that he believes made Adam forget his promise with Allah.

And that but we ever Allah speaks about Allah says the two of them eight, and the two of them sinned, and the two of them were cast out and the two of them were forgiven, both of them were forgiven. And so the blame is never put on either one of them. But if you really, really want to be technical, then the Quran almost leans a little bit more to Adam, that he was the one that made the mistake rather than our mother Eve. And so from a spiritual standpoint, we don't have the baggage that comes with the Judeo Christian

faith when the baggage that is placed on women. I mean, very clearly the Bible says, You women, you menstruate and you give birth as a punishment from from God. Islam, of course, doesn't say that we honor women the fact that a woman can give birth

Oh Mother, this is something which is a gift that Allah hasn't given them in Allah has favored our mothers, three times above our fathers, because she has the ability to bring life into the world. Now, another big, big difference between Islam and Christianity. And in fact, we could say Islam, Judaism and Christianity, Islam and Judaism are almost on the same page, when it comes to this. West Christianity went to a very, very different tangent in the story of Adam and Eve, into the concept of original sin. And again, I am merely being factually and I'm not trying to offend any of our brothers and sisters from the Christian faith. And I hope Christians you understand what your

religion is all about. As I said, many, many times, the Islamic faith or the religion of Islam is a very simple one. It basically says, You were created by Allah, Allah places on the earth, He created us with the ability to choose right from wrong, he then will send the revelation down to teach us the way, you either take the way and come to him at the end of life, or you take a different way, and you are liable for your actions. And that's basically that you worship Him alone, that you have a personal direct relationship with your Creator. If you want to own an island, you are a Muslim by worshipping Allah, Allah. Christianity has a very different take on the purpose of life. So

Christianity basically says,

Adam and Eve were created. Eve was misled by Satan, and she ate from the tree, and she then seduced Adam, and he also ate from the tree. When they did this, when they committed the sin. This is called the original sin, the first sin, the prime sin before that there was no sin, they invented or rather Eve invented sin, she's the one that brought about sin. And, you know, God was so angry with, with with Adam and Eve, that he said to them, the two of you are cursed. Your souls are cursed, you are tainted forever. And the punishment is that the two of you will go to hell eternally.

You know, and there's no matter how much you repent, no matter how much you you live a good life, from this point on, there is no forgiveness for you. Because you are now you your souls have become tainted by sin. All right, you know, they did the crime, so they're gonna go to hell forever. They then give birth to children. And lo and behold, the sun is hereditary. The kids inherit that taint, their children are also going to hell, you know, all the children of Adam and Eve are born into sin. And that's why from a Christian philosophy, and this is across the denominations, or this is Protestants, Catholics. And if you're Christian, and you find this strange, I suggest you do your

research, even Jehovah's Witnesses that don't believe in the Trinity. They believe in the concept of original sin, that mankind is born with the sin of Adam and Eve on your neck, you can't get rid of it, no matter how perfect you are, even if your mother Teresa, even if you wherever you are, you are going to hell forever. So what is the purpose of life? How do I even save myself from a health? Well, someone needs to die for the sun. And that's why, you know, Jesus was sent either as a, a trinity, a part of God himself, you know, God sent himself down in human form, to die, and to suffer, and to be sacrificed. So that when he threw his death through Jesus dying, he's almost like

the vaccine, and you accept that vaccine. Now you are free of that sin, and you're going to heaven, your your actions don't really matter. It is.

Jesus sacrifice is the sin of Adam and Eve, that takes you to help. It is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, that saves you from hell. And that's how you go to heaven. Your actions really are not or not what is important. Yeah. And that is really the concept of Christianity. You know, we are Christians who don't believe in the Trinity. But every Christian believes in original sin, the purpose of life is to take Jesus sacrifice, and save you from the sin of Adam and Eve. Now that is what Christianity is in a nutshell. Islam, as I said, is very different. Islam, yes, we believe in sin. Our view is mankind you are born free of any sin. In fact, you're born perfect, almost perfect.

And based on what you do on Earth, you will be judged. So then going back to Adam and Eve, so they committed the sin. Now, this is important. The important lesson here isn't about how they committed sin. You know who is to be blamed? The important lesson is how do the How did Adam and Eve respond to the sin? We saw a police committing a sin, he committed a sin and He blamed Allah, you are the fault you are the one that caused me to come and said, I blame you Allah. And instead of asking for forgiveness, He said, I will even go further to mislead Adam and Eve. And now he was able to do with the beliefs. That's what he did. So now Adam and Eve, Adam, and how they can do this and, and Allah

subhanaw taala

said to them, how could you do this? After I warned you after I gave you everything, and they obviously weren't complete? Their response was completely different. They fell down in remorse they began to cry. They

began to turn to Allah they they came back to him whereas he believes ran away. They turned to Allah. And so Allah says further luck or Adam Amen. Robby kalimat. So then Adam in his sorrow in his remorse he received Allah spoke to him. Allah gave him words for Tao, ballet and Allah forgave him. But tab actually means to return. Allah returned to him, Allah came back to Adam in now with the wobble Rahim Allah says, Really, Allah is the most repentant and the Most Merciful, the one who returns to you when you run away, when you commit the sin, if you come back to him, you will always be there. And so Adam and Eve, when they come into the sin, they ran to Allah, they didn't run away

from Allah, they turn to Allah in remorse. And so Adam, he received words from Allah, His EDC, the revelation Allah spoke to him. Now the Sister Sister Leila, you ask the question about prophethood. This is basically we either becomes a prophet now, Prophet, prophet hood, is the fact that Allah speaks to somebody, Allah communicates with someone. And so Allah communicated to Adam and Allah gave Adam you know, the ability to repent. And so when Adam repented and an item Adam and how it was understood that both of them Allah returned to them.

And Allah said to the two of them couldn't be to minha Jamia that even though you have now you have my forgiveness, you have now is the time for you to go to the earth you will now go to the earth for me at the end of Kamini. So you're going to go you will go down all of you, all of you meaning Adam, if anybody's he believes is cost out as a punishment, Adam and Eve they are forgiven, but they're still going to to the earth. And Allah says knowledge on Earth. For him my agenda caminhada commentary I would if Allahu Allahu Allah, Allah says to Adam and Eve, you will not go to the earth, but I'm not going to leave you the alone blind, I'm going to continuously send my guidance, I'm

going to guide you, and I'm going to give you revelation upon the revelation. So whoever follows My guidance, for the whole finale, when we are saying, You will never feel sad or scared on Earth, and you will never, you will never be lost. Basically, you will have no fear and no sadness in this world. And in the next, I will always be there with you. Okay, and so

what Lavina Cafaro but as for those who disbelieve in me what kind of that will be if Tina, and they deny My Ayat, my science, my revelation would take us how not, then the destination is Hellfire via Hadith and potentially they could be there eternally. And so another chapter, another concept of punishment now comes into play. So

what do we take away from this, this, this part, this juncture of the lecture, we see that, you know, Adam and Eve, they come to the earth, they made a mistake. They, they committed a sin, like he believes committed a sin, they have the ability to be deceived, they have desires, they have weaknesses, and it can at times cause us to fall into sin. But that is part of being human. That is what human being human is all about. And Allah says, You will live on the earth, you will engage in with one another, you will love your life, you will commit sin, but as for those who returned to me and repent, I will forgive them. And if you live according to my guidance, then you will be saved.

But if you turn away from me, you reject me, then you're going to have a difficult life on this earth. And there's going to be consequences in the life after death. Now, this speaks to, again the nature of mankind. Before I get into that, any any want to talk about what it means to be human. The story basically tells you what humanity is all about. But before I get into that, is there any any questions that anyone wants to ask? I'm just going to close the slides quickly and open up the chat.

Later. I hope that answered your question. I don't know if that answered your question. Is there anyone else that has a question? Hi, DJ, your hand is still up. I don't know if it's still up from last time or you still have another question.

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okay, you put your hand down. I'm gonna I'm gonna pick on people now because you guys want to talk to me.

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very shy people mashallah, you know, hi yah in Islam HYAH this concept of being bashful is a beautiful thing, Mashallah. The people on this chat are extremely, you know, shy or bashful. Mashallah, at the bottom sisters Sabir, I think I'm pronouncing riggotts cerebro. And then I've have pronounce your name quickly. Any questions?

No. All right. So, what this junction again, what I want us to understand is what it means to be human from an Islamic perspective, as I said, the Christian natten narrative, and you know, me my engagement with Christians I hadn't realized

See how much discussion goes into, you know the nature of men.

You know the nature of man is from certain philosophies or certain religions, you are born into sin. You are you come with baggage you come with with evil inside of you. You are you are you can't be saved on your own you need a savior, that you are already in hell and that's it you need someone to save you from Islam is a very different take on humanity. Allah says Western Luna Canyon rock they ask you about the soul will rue Herman Amory Robbie that the soul the nature of it, the mechanics of it is one of the secrets of the of Allah or not will teach him in in in Laconia. And I was I had not given mankind the secrets of the soul, except a little, some of the things that we know this is

beautiful Chapter The chapter of the sun. The name of the chapter, the name of the chapter of the Quran is the chapter of the sun. And I want to go through these verses because they basically give you a feel of what it means to be a human. Allah says, We're Shamsi what hahaha, by Allah says I swear by the sun and how bright it is. And I swear well Comrie that Allah and I swear by the moon as it follows the sun as it comes off to the Sun as the night follows the date when the hurry that Allah Allah says I swear by the date as it unveils how bright the day is and how it removes the darkness well lady either Yorkshire her and I swear by the night how it conceals the day how it

covers up things was summer and I swear by the sky warmer by now ha and the one who built the sky I swear by a I swear by the the heavens and the creator of the heavens, while out of the motto haha and Allah says, I swear by the Earth, and by the one who spread the earth automate the earth Lush.

So

in these verses, you would find a duality, Allah says, by the sun, and by the moon, by the night and by the day, by the heavens and the earth and ulcers whenever seen one so Wow. And also and I swear by the soul, and the one who made the soul. So I will say and now I tell you about the soul for Allah Maha Mudra watashi wa, then within that soul is the knowledge of right? And what are the event the knowledge of right and wrong inspired in it. So Allah says that within every soul within every person is the capacity is the ability to do good and bad, that every single person has within them, the ability to be the best of people, and to be the worst of people, that every soul comes pre

programmed with the ability to recognize good and bad, and to choose good and bad. And so are the Alpha Hammonds a QA and so what is life all about? Successful is the one who purifies his soul who keeps his soul pure. What a hard worker, the Hoberman DESA. And Doom is the one who corrupts you so that your soul has the ability to save life, to bring happiness to bring joy in this world. And you also you and I, we have the ability to bring misery to bring harm to hurt people to kill people to cause mischief. And so successful is the one who keeps his soul pure, who constantly chooses the right over the wrong, who loves a life of goodness and righteousness, and the one who corrupts you.

So let's see. So just give into all the evil, that person is doomed. And so that is really what you know, this is what it means to be a human being what it means to be human, the ability to do good and bad, the ability to rise above the angels, but also the ability to succumb to go to the bottom of the bottom with the police. Even worse than it is.

I hope this lecture. As for many of us, of course, we know the story of Adam and Eve very well. I hope it's sort of a different take on a more mature look at what life is all about a more mature look at the reality of why we live our life, how we conduct our life. And I think the takeaway thing is, it's not about a story about those people. It's a story about you and me, it's about every single day when you go to work, you can choose to be a good person, or you can choose to be a bad person, you have positive influences and you have negative influences. We know from the story that Allah will never leave us alone and astray. We never alone, we always have the guidance of Allah

available to us. And if you take that guidance, you will be on the right path. And we also learn that because we are human, we will never, always make the right choices. We're always going to make a mistake. We're always going to like Adam and Eve, we're going to fall into sin. Now and then we have shaytaan always lurking, always whispering, always encouraging us to do wrong. And if we do commit the sin, then we have repentance. Allah the first engagement, the first form of prophecy, or the first form of Prophethood was ALLAH turning back to Adam when they committed the sin and saying that we'll ever have you want to come back to me, then I am always ready to forgive and to accept

that no one is out of the Mercy of Allah subhanaw taala

And so next week Inshallah, which I think might be our last lecture before Ramadan, we're going to talk about the divine point system that you and I are part of a taste. In reality, it is a taste and the points and there's a way that you win this test. And there's a way you fail in this test, and there's repercussions. There's a heaven and a help. And so it's important to understand how that works.

There's another question, Sister Leila, I think you've asked another question. This might not be part of the lecture, but regarding Ramadan, do we still have these lectures and the taro FFC? Okay, so I think we ended at that, I think it's, it's only going to be proper that we are going to put these lectures on ports during Ramadan, so the month of Ramadan is coming up in a few days time in about a week or so. And so unfortunately, next week, Thursday will be our last lecture, and then we'll take a break for Ramadan. But of course, during the month of Ramadan, we will have a lecture every evening, and our lecture series. And I think you're the first group of people to be aware of

this. We're going to be doing the biography of the Prophet Muhammad, Salah Salem, the Sierra. So in Islam, obviously, for our non Muslim friends that we introduced today, the concept of prophecy. prophethood is way Allah basically talks to a person on the earth and gives them guidance, and they are the ones that need to guide the people. You know, he shows them the way and they're supposed to be the teacher. Adam is the first prophet. He is the father of mankind. He's going to teach his kids and give guidance, but after him there'll be many, many prophets. For example, Abraham, Noah,

Musa, Moses, Jesus Christ, he is a great prophet, Mohammed Salah Salam peace upon Him is the last of the prophets after Him is no more prophets. And why is important to us, because we are from his tribe, we are from his nation. And so he is the guide and so it's important to know about him is this really a man that I can follow? Is this really someone that can lead me to God Almighty? Remember, we don't as I said, last week, we don't worship the prophets of Allah We don't worship Muhammad Salah Salem, Mohammed Salah Muhammad salallahu Salam peace be upon him Prophet Muhammad is a man he is part of life he is in the exam like we are, but he has been given the path showing the

path and he is our leader in that path, you know, and so it's important know who he is and his life what how he lived his life. And so that is going to be our lecture series inshallah during the month of Ramadan.

I hope that you're asking, well, this class is continuing Ramadan, I hope it's, you're not too happy that we're going to be on pause. I don't know if anyone is quite happy that we are not going to have the classes but inshallah next week is going to be our last class and we will continue again after the month of Ramadan inshallah. Any other questions?

Any other comments, anything to contribute?

I hope there any Christians are Christian friends and neighbors, I hope nothing I said here was offensive. And, again, if there's anything that

you disagree with, I encourage you to go and do the research in your faith and the concept of original sin, the concept of eaves rolling that the purpose of life, I see some very, very strong things about Christianity, and it's important for you to actually check that up. And if I've seen anything that is incorrect, or factually wrong, please let me know gladly correct myself, but that is to my understanding the purpose of life in Christianity, whereas as I said, I explained quite clearly what Islam is all about.

Anyway, I've got two minutes. Is there anyone else who would like to contribute something?

Alright, is there anything on the Yes, go ahead, sister. Some

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just to find out the cytomx been changed in Ramadan with Lottie.

continue next week.

Yeah, sure. So from an Islamic perspective, we obviously believe one of the blessings of Ramadan, one of the nice things of Ramadan is you don't have shaytaan shaytaan Iblees. And some of the jinn are all held away from mankind. And so the influence on people are not are not as strong. But of course, it doesn't mean that you can't commit sin, you still can commit sin, but it's a lot easier to do good deeds, and it's a lot easier to leave of sin. And so that's why we see Subhan Allah in Ramadan well, from an Islamic perspective, you know, it's so difficult to do good deeds out of Ramadan. But in Ramadan, you really at the best version of yourself. And that's almost an indication

that when a police is taken out of the equation, you know, life it's easy to be a good person and so let's all believe and that is why Ramadan is that special time that you can be the best possible version of yourself the cycle of hate for the question. So is it is my hurry? And so we conclude what's Allah saying?

Muhammad Ali Ali or Sahih Muslim Selena and handloader up an anime just like GLORIA Thank you so much. Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh