Contemporary Issues Part 2

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Ismail Kamdar

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So we began last week looking at topics like inheritance, witnessing polygamy, hijab, issues, focusing on women and women's rights in Islam. We said that they are two main areas in which

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non Muslims tend to ask questions about Islam. The first is issues related to woman, and the second are issues related to criminal law. So this week, we'll be focusing on the criminal law aspect, inshallah.

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So, before I begin, can everybody hear me clearly?

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If not, I will disconnect the video.

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Okay.

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Before we go into the specific issues, I just like to first look at

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some general issues, to give you a broad outline of why are these criminal laws a problem to other people.

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The modern world has a very different approach to dealing with people, as the as does Islam.

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Islamic law is based upon obedience to God, obeying His laws, and trying to make the world a better place

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does not give anybody the right to do anything which is harmful to society anyway.

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Why modern society in general, is a godless society.

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The modern society is called a secular society. And so secular means that God has nothing to do with the laws. Even though technically this is not true. Because if you read the laws which they have made up, most of them are brought about from the Bible. So they are technically God's laws from their perspective. But they assume that the laws have nothing to do with religion. And so

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they do not believe in religious interference in worldly affairs.

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Furthermore, they believe in individual rights and freedom, freedom to do whatever you want, as long as you are not directly physically hurting somebody else. And they have taken this freedom to such an extreme, that they are things which are morally destroying society, or corrupting society in different ways. But they still allow it, why out of freedom, as long as he's not physically hurting somebody. So they do not allow rape, because it physically hurts people, but they allow adultery, even though it is morally corrupting the society. And they will allow alcohol and pornography and a variety of other illnesses, which lead to society crumbling and falling apart, out of the name of

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freedom. And so it is really important, when we talk to non Muslims, we begin not by going into the specific issues of law, but adjusting the entire approach to law,

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the need for order the need for living your life in a way that is pleasing to God, and for society, not just for individuals, but for the society to be living your life in a way which is pleasing to God. This is a core aspect that needs to be addressed when we are doing our two non Muslims on issues of law.

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And we can explain to them

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that from the principles of Islamic law, one of the founding principles, or two of the founding principles are the principles of universal justice, and public welfare.

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And our laws related to criminal law, and prohibitions in the society

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tend to stem from these two issues.

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Number one, universal justice and you should explain this to them. In Islam, nobody is above the law. Everybody is equally accountable for the sins and for the mistakes. So, it is not like in modern society, where corrupt politicians are people working for the government, or people who have friends in the government can get away with whatever they want. In a pure Islamic Society.

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Everybody is answerable to the court, including the ruler and everybody is answerable to God. So, that is the concept of universal justice, a very profound concept, which modern society does not have. There is no justice in modern society. We can even look at this from what economics the entire economical structure of the modern

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The world is focused around the issue of the rich getting richer to exploiting the poor, why the poor get poorer. Why Islam is just and the Islamic economic system.

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promotes and I

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Islamic economic system promotes a system and method in which the rich get richer, but the poor also get richer, and money circulates throughout the society. So universal justice is apparent in every area of Islamic law.

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And when it comes to criminal law, it is more important even than that to bring in the issue of public welfare, public welfare, that anything which is prohibited in Islam, and any law, which may seem harsh in Islam is there for the benefit of society. These are laws, which are there to protect society.

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When the individual's rights giving individual his rights will lead to more people experiencing hardship, then the majority are given precedent over the individual.

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So,

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for example, the issue of a murderer,

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the execution of a murderer, they see but he still has the right to live.

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But we see the majority of the people of society have more right to live in peace, without fear of somebody murdering them. And this man has forfeited his right to live by violating this trust. So it is out of public welfare that a murder is executed. And you will find that most of our laws of crime criminal laws go back to one of these two principles, universal justice and public welfare. So it is very important when we are talking to non Muslims about Islamic law, we approach it from this angle, and we approach it from the angle of protecting society through punishing a few.

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So with that, inshallah, we will get into the specifics.

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Starting off number one, with the issue of chopping off the hands of thieves. And we will find that in Western society.

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In specifically, we have this very negative idea of the chopping off the heads of teams

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can give you an example of this from a famous animated movie, in the animated movie, Aladdin,

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when the princess takes an apple and gives it to a poor boy. And the store owner asks if she has any money, she says, No. So he grabs a hand, he pulls out his sword, and he gets ready to chop her head off. This is not Islam, that any non Muslim watching this will think that this is Arab law, that if somebody steals an apple from your store, you can grab them and chop the hand off on the spot. This is not Islam at all.

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And we have to explain this to him. This is not what Islam teaches. In Islam, number one, none of these laws can be carried out by anybody except the judge, it is the judge will decide. So the person who stole the Apple will be taken to the judge, and the judge judge will be the case, if what was stolen was not even what was not worth 10 dinars 10 gold coins, which you can see is about $100 if they're not worth $100, then they will chop your hand off for that. So the apple, they will definitely no be chopping off hands for stealing an apple. Likewise, if the person who stole it was poor, again, there'll be no chopping of hands for somebody who was poor. We are not saying they will

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be punished. But it won't be this punishment, it will be something lighter.

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Likewise, if the object that was stolen, was not

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protected, it was something like opening, then again, the hand will not be chopped off. So there are many things

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stopping the ruler from chopping up the hands of the person who steals This is left as a last resort in extreme cases. And Islam does not just bring this law about in a vacuum.

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If you look at modern society, crime is on the rise. Whether it's in the USA or the UK or any other part of the world where they have adopted secular law, crime is on the rise. The modern solutions for dealing with crime have failed drastically. They have failed. And you can see this because crime is on the rise. People will say rather steal and go to prison. We have three meals a day and satellite television. They live on the streets because that is the kind of punishment they are getting for stealing

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So this system has failed.

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On the other hand, the Islamic system has proven to be successful. Because Islam does not just bring about a rule of chopping up a hand. Islam brings about number one, the issue of God consciousness, that we are a society that the majority of people will not steal out of fear of God.

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So automatically that drops the crime rate, that there are people in society who believe in God and fear him they won't be stealing. Okay, fair enough. What about the poor people? Well, Islam as charity is aka is compulsory, the cattle feeder is compulsory. Furthermore, sadaqa is ongoing all the time, even though it's not compulsory. Furthermore, the Islamic Society is a society which breeds contentment, as opposed to modern society, which breeds greed, the modern society, every time you step out of the house, or you put on the television is advertising you, you must own this type of car, you must own that type of phone. Islam does not see this. Islam tells us to be grateful for

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what Allah has given us. And if we can afford something better Alhamdulillah if we cannot afford something better, we are contained to what Allah has given us.

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So all of these concepts alleviate crime. Now, in a society like this, where people are God conscious, people are sharing people are content that is charity, even such as society, somebody still steals, they have no excuse. Such a person has no excuse as to they will be taken to the court, and the court will weigh the situation. And if the crime is of that higher level, they stole something expensive. It was guarded, they had no excuse for stealing it, then and only then is this law

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applied.

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Furthermore, this law is not chopping off their hands. Again, not like in the cartoon, where you see the man grabbing the princess hand and pick up Serbian sword and chopping it off. No, this is not what happens. The hand is surgically amputated in you know, the most in the best way possible, according to modern means. It's not where the man's hand is strapped to the sword in front of everybody, and blood is flying everywhere. No, it is done surgically, and the wound is closed up.

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This law, even though it's a last resort, it still seems barbaric to modern society.

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We see, can you find any law which has been more,

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you know, which has had a bigger impact on society, and has dropped the Korean crime rate even more than this. Because if you look in the world, societies which have Islamic values, and where this law is there for chopping off the hands of thieves have very low crime rates, you know, example of this is in Saudi Arabia, where pickpocketing and such issues may occur. But it is very rare compared to the USA or the UK competitively, to find armed robberies. And you know, these sorts of things taking place. It's not to say it doesn't happen, but it is.

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It is such an in some of the Muslim countries, a person who own a gold shop with a gold Eagle display outside. And when Salatin comes,

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he just covers up the gold with a sheet and he goes off to pay for that.

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While in a western country, a gold shop has security guards, a security gate scanner to check people who are coming in if they have anything, and multiple security cameras, and the person in the shop will never leave it. Why? Because our law has been successful and the law has not. So when somebody points fingers at the Islamic law for being something which is barbaric. They need to first look in the mirror and realize that the laws are not working when it comes to reducing crime. Our laws are.

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Furthermore, another aspect you can bring to this is that even in general in Islam, there are many situations where we don't chop up the hands of teams, we already gave the excuses. But for example, your time of override yellow and blue, he did not apply this law of chopping off the hands of thieves for a few years. Why? Because there was mass drought, and there was a mass drought and famine and people were poor. And as a result, they had an excuse. They had an excuse to steal. So it's not to say they were not punished again. We don't say they're not punished. But the issue of chopping up the hands was not done. Likewise, at the times of battles. If someone from amongst the

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soldiers stone, the prophet SAW that Islam would not chop off their hands because this would cause more harm to society than good and there are many other such situations and that is

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the practicality of Islamic law is not something which is so strict and stringent, where if somebody stole the pencil, or somebody stole an apple, they lose their hands. No, it is something which is there for major crimes when there is no excuse for it. And it has served as a deterrent to crime and Muslim societies, and you'll not find any law law, which does this better than Islamic law. And we can see the same thing about Christian number two, which is

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executing a murderer, or a rapist.

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And really, I don't see why anybody should have a problem with this. Even a non Muslim, you know, and again, I've met many non Muslims who don't have a problem with this, and they want to bring this back, that somebody who has committed rape

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deserves to be executed. And if you look at modern society, the statistics of rape are scary. And we spoke about this last week, we spoke about the issue of the maharam and the issue of,

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of hijab, we spoke about how in modern society, harassment of women has become commonplace. And rape itself has become very common. If you go on Google, and you search for the statistics, I'm not going to give them here. But if you search for the statistics of rape, it has become scary. and in this situation, you know, you need to start looking for a kind of law to put a stop to this. Now, once again, Islam comes and not doesn't just put a punishment for the crime, but it puts in a series of events to stop the crime from happening, we spoke about when it comes to stealing fear of God, again, the same thing. Yeah, if you have a God conscious society automatically just reduces the rate

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of murder and the rate of rape, it will documentary.

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Furthermore, if the woman that are in a job, even more, so that is less temptation for rape, recently, one of the great dies of our time chair comes up, I posted a good article about how pornography is a major cause of rape. In Islamic Society, there's no such thing as pornography, Another cause of rape, elevated.

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Likewise, in Islamic Society, woman, either in large groups together or whatever, again, reducing the chance of re so even such a society where it's become almost impossible to do this crime, or to have an excuse for this crime, for somebody to still go ahead and commit it, this person has become a major burden to society, we do not want the woman of our community to be walking around worried about being raped. For the protection of the majority, one person has to pay the crime has to pay the price of his crime. And this is why we have this law for both murder and for it, yet, the person who committed these crimes are executed. There is a misconception amongst non Muslims, that

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a woman who is raped is punished.

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This misconception has nothing to do with Islam. If you study the sources of Islamic law, it is the opposite way around in the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, one of the female companions was raped. And she complained to the prophets lawyer to them, and she pointed to the metal Rita, and he was executed and nothing was done to her why, because Islam does not punish a person for not when they don't do anything. And this is what applies across the board in Islam to any aspect of Islam. If you didn't do anything wrong, you're not going to be punished. So

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that misconception also needs to be covered up or needs to be cleared up.

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Likewise, we find that

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in Islamic law,

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there's an emphasis on forgiving the murderer, the issue of whether the murderer is to be executed or not, is actually left up to the family of the person who was murdered. So this is something which is very personal. In other communities, what happens to the murderer is left up to the court. And the court can see he gets six months in prison, or five years in prison. And then he's walking around again to the murders again, while in Islam is actually become between him and the family. And the family can decide to make a plea, pay blood money instead, or you can choose to forgive him altogether.

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And this is part of Islamic law. These are various things you can speak about when talking about the issue of murder or rape.

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So these three issues, again, we go back to the

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two main points.

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Sorry about that. The first main point being that Islam has created such an environment where these crimes are not occurring.

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Number two, is that when these crimes do occur, we look at

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Protection of society over individual rights. And you can get from a third aspect that modern laws to solve these problems have failed. They have failed, and Islamic law has succeeded. So it is not fitting for the person whose system has failed to point fingers at the personal system is actually successful.

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Moving on to a more controversial area in nowadays, the issue of adultery and homosexuality.

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Where the punishment of adultery is the stoning. And the punishment of homosexuality is again, execution.

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We need to look at this for a variety of angles. Firstly, addressing Muslims, we have a problem amongst Muslims today, in that we tend to, we tend to treat homosexuality like is the greatest. Meaning if we meet someone who is homosexual, many Muslims treat them like they're worse than somebody committing shark shark is worse in homosexuality. So if you have to be good to people who are committing shark, likewise, you still have to be good to people who are homosexual, you will be unable to Indian back to Islam, and to do Dawa to them if you are

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harsh to them. And we see this in the story of loot Allah, Allah, that route Elisa, a prophet of Allah, he has angels with houses, guests, and people wanted to come and rape practically the angels. What did he tell them, he told he told him to marry his daughters. How many of us today will be willing to tell a homosexual man to marry your daughter as a solution for his homosexuality. And we treat him the complete opposite manner. We don't want anything to do with them. And this is not Islamic. So this perception that Muslims are homophobic, this is our own fault. This is not from Islam. These are sinners like any other sinner, and they need to be treated with kindness like any

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other sinner, and help to overcome this. Okay, so that's something that needs to be addressed from our phones.

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Now looking at the issue of, you know, punishment for these crimes. Now, the problem today is that modern society does not see these as crimes. It is a crime for a man to have two wives. But it's not a crime for him to have five girlfriends and one wife, it's not a crime at all, his wife can't do anything about the court. The most she can do is ask for divorce, but he can't be punished for it.

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So this, we are living in a society that has become desensitized to adultery.

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And now we need to take the people that we are talking to back to basics, teaching them the concept of

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you know, being faithful to one spouse, and the importance of this amongst Muslims, to Muslims. Marriage is sacred. Your spouse has trusted you. Furthermore, God, Allah has trusted you to treat your spouse fairly. so in this situation, in a Muslim community, adultery is not tolerated. It is a crime. It is a crime against your spouse. It's a crime against God. It's a crime which causes problems for society. There are many social problems which we used to take see today, because

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of how rampant adultery has become, since it has not since it is no longer regarded as a crime. We find today broken families, children who don't know who their fathers are, we find prostitution is rife, sexually transmitted diseases, all of this is going about why because we do not regard this as a crime. So for people who see nothing wrong with this, the first thing is to get them to realize that this is wrong.

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And the issue of homosexuality being a sin. Again, why is Islam being singled out? This is every religion. Every religion says this, you can read the religious structure of almost any religion in the world. And it says the same thing. You know, we just following our religion. This is what God has taught us, is what he has taught you all religions, the issue of stoning that's in the Bible as well. But in Islam, a very important point to bring up in Islam. This concept of stoning is more preventative, a psychological preventative in actual punishment.

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Because punishment of stoning to death can only occur in two situations. Number one, if the person confesses, and says I want to be stoned, which rarely ever occurs, and in that case, if it does occur, it was the only choice he wanted. The other situation is if for pious eyewitnesses, witness the actual intercourse and that never occurs.

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Because if anybody knows a pious Muslim, then when they see two people kissing the law there is

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no, you're not gonna watch the actual intercourse have been three witnesses to watch it as well, you know, till this is something we just doesn't occur amongst righteous Muslims. So it's like something which almost doesn't occur. So this punishment is actually there in people's heads, it's there has to be a psychological value, that when a man or a woman thinks of cheating on their spouse, the total go to the head. And this is something so evil in the sight of God, that He has to be such a harsh punishment for it. This is why it's there. It's not it's rarely if ever applied in the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, the only time it was applied was when a woman herself confessed and

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pleaded to the proper to please don't her and that to it only happened about three years later, she came in she told the prophets earlier Salaam that I have committed adultery, please, you know, stone me as atonement for myself, the Prophet told me to go away, she kept coming back to profit slowly some inquiry that she is insane, because he never wanted to do this to anyone. He was never meant to happen to anyone. But she kept bleeding. Finally, he said that you are pregnant from the adultery. So when the baby is born, he had come back. He hoped that when within the nine months of pregnancy, she would not come back and she will forget about it. But unfortunately,

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nine months later, she comes back with a baby and she says I want you to stone, I can't live with the guilt of what I committed.

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And then the profit slowly subside, your baby needs you. So after he is bigger, and he is when they come back, and the profit is larger than hoped again, that was the end of the issue. And she wouldn't have to see him again. But no, two years later, she comes back again, carrying the child eating bread and saying my child no longer needs me, please stone me, I don't want to live with this gift. And so the prophets Lawson had the stone. And this woman is a woman of gender, she's a woman of paradise. You know, the only incident of someone being stone is a person of Paradise, because she was a righteous woman who couldn't live with the guilt of the century had committed. And this

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really, you know, changes our perspective that many of us have in piety, that we tend to be judgmental, somebody committed a sin, and for the rest of their life, we hold it against them. Why do we have a woman who committed adultery, and the promise lies unto the Sahaba that her tobacco dependence is equal to 70 people from the city of Medina 70 Sahaba. So this was a righteous woman

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who made one mistake in her life. So this was the only time this really occurred. After that, if you read the time, aboubaker Omer smile, early onwards, this never occurs. It's just there as a psychological preventative. And the same with the punishment for homosexuality, because a person is not executed. This is a misconception. A blessing is not executed for having homosexual feelings. A person will only be executed, if they are caught in the act.

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If they are caught in the act of homosexuality, by for pious witnesses, or if they themselves admit he committed his crime and want to be killed. So it's the exact same laws apply. That applied to the issue of stoning, the same rules and regulations apply to punishing someone for an act of homosexuality. So again, in history, I do not know of a single event where this punishment was carried out against homosexuals.

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In fact, it was so unheard of that during the time of Kali Rashid, the scholars were discussing this issue. And you know how she said Harada she said that if it wasn't for the story of loot, and the people of his time, we wouldn't even know that such a sin exists.

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This is something how read was in that society. So this issue, again, it's more of a psychological preventative to show how evil this crime is in the sight of God in something which actually carried out.

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Now on to the most controversial point, when it comes to freedom of religion.

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We say that Islam teaches us law, equality,

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the new compulsive, the no compulsion in religion, and

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it should be no compulsion in religion.

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The main fault The reason for this is then why do Muslims believe that if you leave Islam, we will kill you, you will be executed and the way they are the standards is that if I had to leave Islam today, tomorrow brotherman pseudo had me down with his gun and shoot me at my home.

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Okay, I would never have

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But that is the median, the standard if somebody had to leave Islam, then then people will come up to them and just kill them like that. Well, in reality, again, this goes back to the judge, it goes back to the judge, nobody has a right in an Islamic country to take the law into their own hands. This never can occur in Islamic country. It's not allowed. It has to be taken back to the judge. And this is something which once again, rarely happens. Usually in the Islamic country. If somebody apostates they either leave and go live with a non Muslims, which in such a case, nobody hunts them down, nobody does anything to them, or they don't tell anyone about it, and they just continue

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living their lives, you know, you don't make an issue of it. In that case, again, nobody does anything about it. But when a person apostates, and these publicizes apostasy, and these are doing our towards the apostasy in an Islamic country, this becomes a problem, this becomes a problem, because they are now opposing the states, they now become a traitor, who is committing treason against the society. This is the Islamic Society, you are now committing treason, you're now trying to turn people against the government and against the rule and against God. In this situation, if the judge feels fit, the individual is executed.

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Okay to again for the protection of society. And now, modern people might seek protection from what he wasn't killing anybody. He wasn't stealing anything. Once again, this is where our worldview differs from the worldview I spoke last week about is how Islamic law is established to protect five things to protect our religion, our demand, to protect our lives, our wealth, our families, and our intellect. Number one on the list is our EMR.

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And this is something which modern society has ignored. And in modern society, that's not believing. But this is part of our religion. Number one on the list is protection of our demand. And in protecting the modern society means execution of one individual who is a cause of corruption in society, in Islam.

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So, once again, it comes down to differing worldviews, and we have to get them to understand things from our worldview. Even in modern society. If somebody commits treason, he's executed. So why is this a problem in Islamic country? Is it because he left his religion? While this is a religious society, and again, this goes back to the other books as well, the Bible says the same thing. The Bible is even more harsh on this issue than Islam.

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In Islam, the person still leaves the country, or we can talk about it, or it's not called the PETA, you know, no one's gonna hunt him down and look for who's a fascinating and kill people see only done for rebels, for people who are rising up against the state.

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As you can see, everything we are talking about today is very controversial. These are the issues which are brought up in our

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we move on now to the issue of slavery.

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How can Islam allow slavery? And this is a question who is Muslim asked to the other Muslim masters? Does Islam allow slavery? How can you allow slavery?

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The first thing we need to realize is what is the person's mindset and understanding of slavery? The person we are with asking this question, in his or her mind, they have a picture of a man in chains. And most probably it's a darker skinned man and change, with the chains around his neck and around his hands and his legs, and a fair skinned person whipping him and torturing him. This is the image of slavery in most people's minds.

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In Islam, this is not what Islam allowed. Islam came at a time where everybody in the world was either asleep or asleep.

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This was how the world was it slaves were everywhere. Now, if Islam just came in, said, there's no such thing as slavery. What would happen to somebody who was a slave their entire life,

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for example, a 10 year old boy living in Medina, as a slave, who doesn't know his parents, and now Islam had to come and see that no such thing as slavery. What will happen to that boy, he'd be left on the streets, no family, no one to take care of him. Not always, always from what happened. And so what happened to one person this would have happened to 1000s of people. So what is Islam do? Islam came in the first thing it did, it gave the slaves rights.

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The prophets lawyers have said that your servants are your brothers. Feed them for what you eat, clothe them with what you wear, do not give them too much work to do if they have too much work to do help them with your work. Does this sound like slavery? She's not slavery, it may still be called slavery. The person may still own the other person in the sense but that person

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Had now had rights. And in this case,

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they had a better chance of living in society than if they were just lit up onto the streets on their own.

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Furthermore, slaves in Islam, were given the opportunity to grow and to become people. A person who is asleep was allowed to do business, and to try and buy his freedom. So you're joining us now financially independent and able to look after himself, he could give the slave owner money, and now live on his own.

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Furthermore, maybe other opportunities for freedom, we find that for many of the crimes in Islam, what is the kafala the atonement, feed asleep, and so very often slaves would be free. Furthermore, Allah subhanho wa Taala says in the Quran, when he talks about righteousness, he says righteousness is to free a slave. So freedom of slaves is what isn't promoted not slavery, to such an extent. If you open any book or fake, you won't find a chapter called chapter of slavery, you will find the chapter call the double evoc, the chapter of freeing the slaves. Any chapter in any book dealing with slavery is called a chapter of freeing the slaves, not the chapter of slavery, because that is

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what the emphasis was was on, on the slow and steady freedom of slaves, taking them up in society. So the purpose of them said that if you have a slave girl, and you educate her, and then you free her, and now he will be rewarded for this. So the Prometheus didn't just tell us to educate male stage, but even the female slaves, and so we find some of the greatest scholars in Islamic history. We either male or female slaves. That's how they started their lives. But Islam gives them the opportunity to become scholars to such an extent that at one point in time, the ruler was asking one of his head judges, who is the scholar Mecca. And you mentioned the name of a slave, a free slave,

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who is a scholar of Medina. Again, he mentioned the name of a freed slave, and he asked who is a scholar of cilia again, he mentioned the name of a son of a freed slave. Finally, he mentioned the Arabic name for Koufax. hamdulillah. These days one Arabs call for this show that Islam took these leads to such a high level that he became the leaders of society. The best example of this was Bilal Baba. So yes, Islam did not come and just abrogates was slavery like that. But people who are still slaves, had more rights in free people actually

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know they had more rights than many so called free people have today. If you look in many parts of the world today, the kind of lives people are living the slaves in a Muslim society, Henrietta Lacks.

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And

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this is the issue of slavery. Of course, the more controversial point of slavery comes in for the issue of Mima via email.

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Unless you have a hunter that says you may know but that's not what we know and believe is a successful he mentioned some of the quality qualities, the third one of which is the fourth one is Allah Vina whom Lee Fujian have his own Illa Allah as watching him, Omar Baraka, a man,

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that a person who protects his private parts means he does not come and see now

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he can, he protects his private parts, except from his wives for his sleeve goes, and he has no day loosen upon him for having sexual intercourse with his white white sneakers. So this becomes a point of controversy, that how can Islam allow me to be sexual with the snake

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in a religion, which promotes modesty? And if against fornication and adultery is all about being?

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You know,

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being faithful to your spouse? How do we allow such a concept as a man having sleep because technically speaking in a bookstore,

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there is no limit

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on the amount of sleep sneakers amendment allowed to have.

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Of course, nobody really had a lot of staples in general, because the the emphasis on society wasn't being slaves. That's number one. Number two, the wives would allow it, you know, because men who had sleep girls, you know, the wives would make sure that you're not getting up to teams knowing a lot.

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And if you have any stories of this from the people of the past.

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So this wasn't something where people had a lot of it, but it was something which was allowed, so much so that the process was all yours alone. He had a son Ibrahim, from his slave girl, Maria, Maria Maria was not the wife of the Prophet of Islam. She was asleep. And he has a son from No. So this is something which was allowed what

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Which is allowed technically in the Sharia? How do we explain this? Well, the first point is that this isn't relevant to our times. If you talk about contemporary issues of Islam, you're going to convert to Islam today, you don't really need to worry about this. It's not something which is going to affect your marriage in any way. Because it doesn't apply in our times. What if you want to talk about it from a historical perspective?

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Well, reality is Islam does not regard sexual intercourse itself as something evil. No, Allah created humans with sexual desires, and needed the means of reproduction. And Allah being the Creator, knowing what is good for society, knowing what is bad for society, allowed it with certain people, and did not allow you to certain people.

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We mentioned earlier that slaves were treated as part of the household,

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people will treat the slave boys as their sons. to such an extent you are not allowed to call them slaves, or slave Boy, you just call him boy or son. And people will treat their slave calls, like wives. This is how you treat the staker like a wife, you know, she'd be given the same food to eat the same clothes to wear, and treated with the same respect. So

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as a result, as they are treated as wives, we are part of the family, the same, the men enjoy the same privilege with them as you would with a wife. Now this issue of, of a man being allowed to have relations with this slave actually was in favor of asleep.

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Because if asleep had to become pregnant to such a relationship, this pregnancy would lead her over time to become free. This woman becomes what is known, in fact, as the mother of the child, the mother of the trailer for owner, and once a woman is the status.

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She's on her way to freedom. If her husband, if her master is not free her while he's alive, as soon as he passes away, she automatically becomes free. So this was something which was in their favor. And, you know, they would like this, they will something which is something which will help them to become free in society, and most of the time it will lead to marriage. And

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so the issue here goes back to a society today, which sees nothing wrong with prostitution, and sees nothing wrong with pornography is picking on a healthy relationship between two people. I mean, if you believe in consenting adults, either consenting adults,

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so don't point fingers at Islam, when we have system and order in these issues, and limits and rules, while modern society does not. It's not only allowed these two things, when it comes to who a man is allowed to be with, is not allowed anymore. Now the issue of why a man's allowed more sexual partners.

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Then, woman again, we discussed this last week, when we spoke about polygamy. We spoke about why

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Amanda's allowed more sexual partners, that woman, basically, number one, that women are more than men in the world, prior to looking at the nature of men and women, that men in general, they need more women in their lives. While woman just general we talking in general, women generally need one man in their life. And again, even sexually that is the issue. And that is the case. And

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the other aspect is that if a woman becomes pregnant,

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if she has more than one partner, in most parts of the world in most times, it is not possible to determine who the father is. While if a man has multiple wives, and only comes pregnant, everybody knows who the mother and the father is. And so these three areas again, we discussed it in a lot of details last week, we spent about 20 minutes on that topic. So ensuring the recording is up to those of you who missed it can listen to that inshallah. So these are the issues regarding the laws. We're not done yet we have two more issues.

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The one which is in the news the most nowadays, she had the word which many people are scared to say.

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The issue that Islam is a violent religion, which promotes killing the disbelievers pocket pulu me she wanted to move on, kill them wherever you find them.

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As the Quran says,

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and which forces people to convert to Islam, to the sword.

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This is the religion of jihad religion of Islam, according to them, and Muslims have become so defensive, so defensive on this issue, that we have actually began to change the religion that we will find Muslims today, saying that there's no such thing as offensive jihad is only defensive jihad, which again contradicts Islamic history contradicts the core idea

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Hadees contradicts the lives of the beliefs, you know. And then we see people trying to change history accordingly. I've read a book recently called the true jihad, where the author claims that the prophets Lord Islam only for three battles in his life, and those three ways of tickets, that is completely inaccurate, completely false information. We don't need to be apologetic about eating in our religion.

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Islam is the true religion of Allah subhanho wa Taala. And Islam

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has the best tools in the world. We don't need to be apologetic, we just need to know how to explain things. So if you are talking to someone who is a Jew or a Christian, you can begin by asking them Then Moses to jihad. Then Joshua, do jihad in David do jihad against Goliath? What about Solomon? Did he do jihad? What about Jesus when he entered the temple? And if he had to work the moneylenders wasn't that Jihad? No, what is Jihad jihad is fighting to uphold the the Dean of the religion of God. So if you don't believe that Moses did anything wrong, in fighting the Pharaoh, or David did anything wrong if I think Goliath, or Jesus did anything wrong when you work the moneylenders, why

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is it the problem with the next prophet does the same thing? No, jihad is something which is in the Bible.

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And, again, turning the tables, if you read the stories and the rules of war in the Bible, they are barbaric. They are scary, barbaric. No, they are. They talk about killing the children and killing the woman and killing the animals and wiping the city clean. You just pick up a Bible and read the stories they are article where Islam on the other hand, we have one of the strictest rules and systems of dealing with war. Firstly, the prophet slice of Goddess don't ever wish to be in a battle. But if you end up in a battle be brief. That is part of the Sharia. That is what it says that Muslims are not warmongering people. Allah says in the Quran gudivada como Kitagawa wakulla

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fighting becomes necessary for you Even though you dislike it, who disliked it, the prophet, Lord Islam and the Sahaba, meaning that it is part of our nature and Muslim to dislike fighting, but sometimes it becomes a necessity. This is our religion. Fighting is not what we live for. It's not what we want in life, but we are realistic religion. We live in a world where from the beginning of time till today, there have always been wars. And if we are not brave, if we are not strong, if we are not well equipped, and we are unable to defend ourselves, we will be oppressed in these wars in our religion, and our people will be wiped out. And so as a result, Islam has instituted Jihad for

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the protection upholding of the religion of Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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Now if we look at the laws of Islam when it comes to jihad,

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first point is that this murder is completely prohibited in Islam. murdering someone without a just cause is completely prohibited and is one of the greatest sets as is forcing someone to convert to Islam. Because we as Muslims believe that the worst of people are the hypocrites. The worst of people are the hypocrites. If someone is forced to convert to Islam, they become a hypocrite.

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So, you know, why would we force people to convert to Islam? So we have more modern African society, giving one on one African society? No. So this is not an Islamic concept.

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Now let's look at the rules of the laws of the laws of jihad. The prophets that allowed Islam and said that when you are in a battle, do not kill a woman. Do not kill a child, not kill an old person. Do not kill a noncombatant Do not kill a priest or a worshiper did not break any of the any of the enemy's holy places. No, do not burn down trees and kill animals unnecessarily. What other religion or which other system has this? Now these are people who talk it all out, and they don't care if they're kidding, woman, man, child, they don't care if the destroying the city, they don't care. Now the attacker City The first thing they aim for is to blow up the machines. Why Muslims in

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jihad, you're not allowed to destroy your church. You're not allowed to destroy your synagogue. No, this is not Islam. So we have the best rules when it comes to warfare. The most civilized rules when it comes to walking, which leads to the least amount of casualties to such an extent that a study of the Sierra will show in every battle that took place between the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and the correlation backup over the 13 year the 10 year period of Medina only about 300 people were killed on both sides combined

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because the Muslims will try the best

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Not to kill. They'll be in the middle of the battlefield. In the middle of the battlefield in the Battle of God, or the battle, a battle, a non Muslim will come to a Sahabi and say, give me protection. You'll see we give you protection. Who does this in the middle of a battlefield, your enemy asked you for protection, you give him protection. There are many stories of Sahaba doing this, someone who just say la ilaha illAllah Muhammadan rasul Allah, the Prophet slicin was he not allowed to kill him because he did not know what is in his heart.

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So this is what Islam has to say about war. Now, very importantly, nowadays, a lot of people get apologetic, and they say Islam, jihad is only defensive know, in Islam, there are two types of jihad.

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We had jihad, jihad,

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Jihad of defense and Jihad bitola, the Jihad of conquest, or military expansion.

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Now, this is not forcing people to convert to Islam. When the Muslims conquered Syria, the people of Somalia remain Christians, except who ever wanted to become a Muslim. When the people of when the Muslims conquered Persia, the people of Persia, that means the Russians except who wanted to become a Muslim, when they conquered India, the people of India remain Hindu, the right to today they are still Hindus majority. If we were conquering and forcing people to convert to Islam, India would be a majority western country. So this was malece expansion. It was not forcing people to convert to a religion. And once again, you can't point fingers at Islam for expanding the borders and multi

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conquests, which nation did not do this? The Romans, the Greeks, the Persians, how did the rulers of USA Today get into the USA, without going in there and murdering the red Indians and conquering the place? You know, how did I end up in South Africa, if people hadn't come here and taken over the place and brought Indians here to work for them? every country in the world has been subject to military expansion and conquest. So why the hypocrisy in pointing this out and flow with Islam when everybody has done this, the difference is when other people do it, when the US in was invaded, you know, by

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the people of the UK, back when it was just a country of what they call the red Indians, the natives, they call them red Indians, when you're just a country full of those people they came in and the massacre, flat out massacred people. When the Muslims came in, we had peace, we brought peace with us. So much so that the non Muslims preferred to live under Islamic rule in the previous rulers. And we come to that now in the final question, which is the issue that non Muslims are oppressed in Islamic State. non Muslims are afraid to live in Islamic country, because they are afraid they will be oppressed. You know, the women have to wear the polka wear the niqab. And the

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men have to grow beards, and they're not allowed to eat out pork or drink alcohol. It's not true. That's not true at all. A non Muslim in the Islamic State has full freedom to practice their religion. This is it isn't how it was in two outer Muslim societies that Christians Jews or Christians, Hindus, atheists even practice what they believed in, as long as they present us here. No one was forced to accept Islam. You know, they sold alcohol, they ate pork, you know, they married their sisters amongst the Zoroastrians. That's what we do. Islam suggests your religion. You know, as long as you pay the jizya you are allowed to follow your own religion as a member of our

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city. Furthermore, a non Muslim living in the Islamic State has several advantages over the Muslims because the jizya that they are paying

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absolves them of military duties.

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God forbid absolves them of military duties. They are they don't have to fight. They don't even have to defend themselves when they pay the jizya. It becomes the duty of the Muslims to protect them.

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And a beautiful story to tell them about this is in the time of Omar radi Allahu anhu. The

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the Christians of Syria, Syria was a Christian country, and they were conquered by Abu Dhabi Jarrah and Khalid bin Walid and their armies. Now, what happened was that the Roman Emperor had sent a huge army of 200,000 to come and fight the Muslims.

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And Abu Zubaydah ninja Roy had to now gather and muster all the Muslim army and all the Muslim troops to go and fight this army, leaving all the cities and God so what did he do? He went back to every single non Muslim citizen and gave them back the jizya giving him back the money saying that you gave us this jizya to protect you. We are unable to protect you because we are

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We're going to walk through here is your money back which roulette as this today people when the Christian saw this their minds were boggle they may do our to Allah did the Muslim defeated Christian Roman Emperor because the Muslim gave him so much more justice.

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History shows that non Muslims in those days when they held righteous Muslim rulers prefer to live under the booster like in dystonia just mentioned the issue of pension. How does pension come about? If you go back to the time of Omar Abdullah Omar saw a Jewish man begging old Jewish man begging and asking why are you begging? He said I am old I cannot work and I need to be the GCL almost said no. When you were young, you paid us to look after you. Now you're going old. It's our turn to look after you. And He instituted a pension for non Muslims will work on living in Islamic country that this sounds like oppression. We are actually paying your elders and looking after them. You know,

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this is what Islam did. If you look for example, how did the Muslims get into Spain, the Muslims never wanted to enter the European countries. They regarded the European countries as barbaric and backwards, so much so that they named Spain andals and the loose from the word vandal, he was named to sit the country of vandals and those because that is how barbaric they regarded Christians being to be, but the Christians of Spain and this is a true story which you'll find documented. The Christians of Spain told the Muslims to come and help them to get rid of the oppressive Christian ruler to such an extent that the army of talented knizia had many Christians and many Jews on his on

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his army fighting against the Christian ruler, and many converts as well, because the Muslims have given him that much protection. That is how the Muslim cheated the non Muslim citizens they had full freedom. And you can eat a lot of details about this in the book, civilization of faith by Dr. Mustafa z by a brilliant book about Islamic State and the laws of an Islamic State is a Section D on treatment of non Muslims which really boggles your mind and how, how well non Muslims were cheated in Islamic State.

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And with that, we conclude our topics for this week at hamdulillah. Over these two sessions, we were able to cover all of the major issues not all but many of the major issues which non Muslims raise about Islam. So, I will take questions for what happened inshallah and then we will conclude.

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Okay, before I take questions for those of you are interested in studying a bit more about this topic.

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The online university we do offer a free course on this topic. If you go to the diploma section of the Islamic online university, there is a caustic or contemporary issues taught by Dr. Bilal Philips, where he goes into a lot of details. It's about eight or 10 modules. And he goes into a lot of details for example, he spends one hour on polygamy half an hour a job half an hour on apostasy You know, he goes into a lot of details. So if you watch we just covered everything in three hours there you can study about the same topic over 15 hours for free on the Islamic online University website, Dr. Bill Phillips so if you want to know more about this topic, I'd recommend that you do

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that course inshallah.

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So that whatever Christians are currently on the board I'll start off with those questions before I move on to others inshallah.

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Okay, one more announcement. Next week there won't be any free online our workshop as it is exam time at Islamic online university.

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Okay, and the same with the week after that as the another Institute having the exams. So the next day our workshop will be on the first of December, taught by our brother Masuda Dinesh. It will be about the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Islam in the Bible, very interesting topic. I hope you all will attend inshallah, that will be the next session will be on the first of December.

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Okay.

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Let's take a look at these questions on the board right now. Is slavery allowed you to these words from Islamic point of view? Is it prohibited now or it just doesn't exist? It just doesn't exist. Islam works with the time issues, if they slavery going on in Islam allows it in a limited sense, in that you can take a free person or anybody and just call him a slave. You know, only a prisoner of war can become your slave. Only a prisoner of war can become your slave.

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And

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if you

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look at what ensues

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Society, we don't have slavery. Of course, today we have something worse we have intellectual slavery, where Muslims have become intellectually slave to other people. And even amongst the non Muslim more people have become slaves to modern lifestyle, where you are now worshipping money, and worshiping trying to get a better life to such an extent that you sacrifice everything, your wife, your kids, your religion, whatever it takes to get ahead. No, this is a different type of slavery. This is the type which Islam came to get rid of. Because when the Sahaba used to go out in jihad, what do they tell the non Muslims, we have come to remove you from the slavery of people into the

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slavery of Allah subhanho wa Taala. And we ever come to remove you from the constraints of chasing after this world, into the vastness of chasing after the after, like with this work? So, that type of slavery Islam is against, but the issue of whether you can take a prisoner of war to be your slave, again, Islam has allowed this, it doesn't happen nowadays, because this is not in our society. But if it became part of society, again, Islam was to, you know, have in a limited sense.

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Okay, jizya is only to be paid by GitHub or other religions as well. Very good question, issue of difference of opinion amongst the scholars in the must haves. The correct opinion is, from my perspective, anybody with a non Muslim Islamic state can be cheesier. Why do I say this? Because this is the understanding of the setup of the early generations. You know, if this wasn't the understanding, why did they allow Hindus to continue living in India, or the restaurants to continue living in Persia, or even atheists, because Abu hanifa dealt with he is living in the Islamic State, but he was still allowed to live there. So this shows he didn't distinguish they just whoever was a

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non Muslim, as long as they pay the jizya. They allow them to live.

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We find the time of Omar Abdullah, who they addressed this issue, because the Quran specifically mentions to take jizya for Lupita. So they had the Shura to discuss that is this restricted to Jews and Christians, or you can be other people as well. And they came to the conclusion that includes other people as well. So they allowed us or restaurants this discussion took place after the conquered conquered Persia. And they came to the conclusion they allowed this restaurant to keep following the religion as long as the feta cheese. Yeah, so that was the conclusion of America. And those were with him.

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And,

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you know, that is the view that I follow. And really, you don't want to bring up the other opinion when it comes to our it's really not something practical, you know, but everybody needs to go into every issue. So that's, that's what is our issue, and the law that we ever had was was allowed to be the GCF.

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Okay, let me go back up to the Christian.

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Sunlight, the scene wasn't brought before a judge, but he was killed on the spot. Is this justified killing of an apostate? No, this is not what Islam allows, again, apostate can't just be executed or kill, they have to be taken and charged and you know, it is the judge will decide what to do with it. Because in some situations, they are, you know, first put in prison, other situations, the scholars would speak to them and do our bidding. So for example,

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for example,

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sorry, I lost my example I was going to get okay. For example, if somebody became an apostate, because they had a misunderstanding about the Quran, they're not going to be killed for this. The scholars will come to them, ask them, why did you leave Islam? What don't you understand and discussion them and cleared up with them, and 90% of the time, they will come back to Islam, because there's nothing in our religion which cannot be logically discuss, you know, so this is what will happen. Now, if that's not the case, and a person is now wanting to cause corruption, you know, try and get as many people as possible to join him in his apostasy, then they will take it to the court

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the court to either imprison him or defeat he's a major. If not, they will execute him. But for somebody to just go ahead and kill that is not permissible.

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Okay, I live in the West a Muslim rather me the accident with a call for a coffee in a cafe child, non Muslim child died. They want to settle out of court. You can't really call the trader coffee too, because you can also pick her up.

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So yeah, that was a bit of an incorrect statement.

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You know, any child who dies of a supernova can take him to paradise, regardless of what religion degree so, you know, what is the issue of him having to pay a huge sum of money well,

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In Islam enough to do the same thing in Islam, if you accidentally killed someone, you have to pay the family, the work of 100 camels. Now if you're going to try and work out the worth of 100 camels, that's a lot of money. So most likely the amount of money he has to pay Did you know Hitler would have been even more bizarre because that is the punishment for accidentally killing someone not execution you do not execute someone for accidental murder that is for deliberate and intentional and planned assassinations and murder, but for accidental murder, then there is the issue of paying the family 100 capitals work. So it actually would have been even stronger punishment.

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And again, this is not really to punish the individual, but to make up for the loss of the family, you lost your child. What can a person possibly do to help you know, get over the trauma? And one of the cameras with the money might just help you get over it?

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Okay.

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I thought that chopping off the hands not down for stealing what happened in our money? Is that not right? I studied the status of money.

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Halfway dinner if you know what I remember reading, I could be incorrect. Let me just check it out for you again quickly.

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To be here.

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Okay, okay, so I was going I said 10 dinos it actually can be your hands. Okay. Thank you for that.

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correction. Okay. So it wasn't till the, the, the analogy was 10 year humps 10 silver coins. Okay. So 10 silver coins today. I'm not sure what the word but I get a person.

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Hand won't be chopped off for stealing an apple or stealing a pen or for stealing something like that. It will be for something which has some value. Okay, it is 10 silver coins? Not 10 gold coins and I mistaken.

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Okay, the issue what is that Islam have to see about value?

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Okay, that's a bit of a controversial topic. Okay, everything in discussing a controversial topics anyway.

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Well, the problem is that Iceland did tell me not to be like animals, when you go to your wife, but to be loving to talk to her lovingly, and to make her enjoy as well. This is part of the deal. But

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at the same time, it is not a crime for a man to force himself upon his wife.

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Okay, it's not a crime.

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It is something which is not the best thing to do. But it's not a crime, not like in Western society. Why? Because in Islam, you know, in Western society, they look at consenting adults, both of them must want it. While in Islam, it is your right that your wife gives you what you need. And your wife say that you give her what you need. So you know, whether it's one way or the other, they both have that right over the other person. And if one of them diffused unjustly, the other one, you know, you can take it. But again, it's not something which you stop promotes, or city The good thing. But it's not something to guard as a crime. Because that is someone will allow for you to be

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what

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is there a specific lesser punishment for stealing something which costs less than $100? No, there's no specific punishment that's left up to the discretion of the judge. Most of the time, they have to return the object and maybe pay a fine, or you know, something like that. And the final devil is left up to the discretion of the church, you will find that in Islamic law is a lot of things which are flexible. We don't put down a stipulation and has left it to the people to decide and to work out.

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What is the difference between slavery of the past and slavery or present days, but there's no real slavery nowadays in terms of physically owning people?

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That doesn't really exist nowadays. Okay.

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Okay, good question. A person described the offensive

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jihad, as only specific for the time of the Prophet slice them and his companions, as it was extensive of divine disgrace to those people. This is not correct, this is not correct at all. If you open any book of

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offensive jihad is there.

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Okay.

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So this is something which is clear. And it wasn't just done in the time of the province. It was done way after that. I mean, how did the Muslim end up ruling from Spain on one hand, all the way to China, on the other hand, all the way up to Russia, and all the way down to East and West Africa. All of that was one big assembly kingdom. We never got there, you know, without jihad, the ones jihad, right through all of that. It's not going to Malaysia and Indonesia to other countries. But for that entire area of which was practically three quarters of the known world to become one Islamic State. That was military conquests during the time of the Sahaba during the time of omega

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three, the time of the apostles.

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So that is something completely incorrect and apologetic.

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Today, the non Muslim, dopey cheesier, in Islamic State, well, these are not Islamic states. They are semi Islamic, but not really Islamic, it will have some faults that help you become 100% Islamic sometimes causes issue Part Two was the killing of hostage blood halaal indicators on hakushi. This gives the average person the right click apostas alive notice the issue of Salman Rushdie that was declared by Shia scholars. That's not Islam. You know, in Islamic State, again, he is someone with a devil who has committed major crimes, but we are not allowed to kill him or to harm him physically. If you're an Islamic country, the government for the most part is not an Islamic country. So

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we have no right to do anything to you.

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When they amputate the hands of someone who stole something to the amputate the right or the left and the person still further time with the amputate the foot okay.

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is a difference of opinion? Yeah.

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The scholars say that you first time you amputate the right hand

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and the second time the left foot

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and the third time, that is where the scholars differ, some consultant will amputate the other hand. Other scholars you know, third time we just put him in jail. Why? Because, you know, if he doesn't have any hands, he has more excuse to steal now. Because how is he going to do any work at all to to you know, live a life. So many of the scholars say it's only done once to a person. Okay? But the reality is, if you look at this realistically, if somebody whose hand was amputated for stealing, they are never going to steal again. Okay, that's Realistically speaking, what kind of idiot is going to steal when he has lost his head because of steam? You know, no one's gonna take that

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chance. And Firstly, you must be a really good thief, to still go ahead and commit such a crime with only one hand.

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And if he does the crime again, only one hand in one day, and he must be a master right?

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The name of the book with the laws of Islamic State very good book, civilization of freedom typing it out for you to be translated into English available by iph publishers by Dr. Mustafa, as Seba is one of the best books I've read recent years, published by iph civilization have a really brilliant book, even for give it to non Muslims, it really changes your entire perspective of what the Islamic State was like, No, all of our ideas get completely replaced with a much more better idea. And really, we should we should have established by the way, these issues are discussing with a non Muslim, I can give you a practical example. I had a friend who was an atheist. When I first met him,

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he hated Muslims, and he regarded Muslims are terrorists. After a few months of discussing these issues, he told me

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he was from the UK, he told me that he would rather play the jizya and live in the Islamic State and continue living in the UK. If such an Islamic State existed, I was able to convince you but I'm really glad that these laws because it but I wasn't able to convince him that you know what Islam, Allah guides who he was, but you know, at least some of the dialogue was done.

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And that goes to show that you know if they were non Muslims truly understood an Islamic state what is like they would want to live in such a city where there is no need no crime no murder. No it's a it's a society where you want to live in peace and you're able to live successfully.

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Okay good books and lectures on Islamic history on lectures I would recommend you download the fitna by shift command and monkey. That's a good starting point.

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Books you'd like to get the books by

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Sidney Ali Alia Sabu

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he's written his books have been translated to English three volume life of the Prophet slowly Islam in Abu Bakar Omar Ali I have available in English country with the author's full name a better one so if you can type it out because you also have ebooks

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appreciate that inshallah.

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Yes, Mohammed Salah

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Ali Mohammed Salah, okay, Allah for that. So if you want good books on on Islamic history, get the books by Muhammad Ali a Salah B has written books, three volume book on the prophets, lowliest Allah, one huge volume abubaker two volumes and humor, one huge volume and a smile and two volumes and Ollie, no detail of being your contemporary issues, brilliant books to read on how to do that. Okay, going back to the issue of someone who says that stoning is only that, you know, specific situations not for all situations. Well,

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what is the mean the very big statement to make what does he mean by this is really what we need to look at what does he mean by stoning was for specific situations and not for all situations. Because, you know, technically it is right. stoning is only for a married person who cheat on their spouse, and either confesses, or four eyewitnesses witness the divorce. No, so that is specific, but it means something else that he might be wrong, or trying to change. So this is a very

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shaky way of saying things you can't really get what he's trying to say.

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If he meant is only for the time of the Prophet slowly slammed in this is complete deviation, completely wrong over on the other hand, when he was the kharif, he stood up and he said that stoning has been legislated for us during the past. He said, this story has been interesting for us, and it is found in the sooner. So this was after the time of the Prophet slowly Islam. And he said, I'm saying this so people won't say one day that is not part of our religion. So we'll make it quite clear. This is part of our religion, it is not something because number two any time.

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Okay, I think this is the best question we've got all night. We all want to live in Islamic State. What can we do to change our society to become an Islamic State? This is where a lot of people deviates, COVID major crime because what happens nowadays, a lot of people looking for shortcuts to establish the Islamic State. They pick up the sword, they declare Jihad inequalities are killing people. Okay? This is not you cannot get an Islamic State like that. Look at the scene of the Prophet sallahu Salah, the first Islamic State was Medina. How many people did the prophets have to kill to become the ruler of Medina and to establish the Islamic State of Medina? How many people

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were killed in the process of turning Medina in Islamic State? Nobody. Jihad was only allowed

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after they had established the Islamic State, and they had a base in the head army. Now to expand it. Until that point, how did they establish the Islamic State?

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Number one, understanding Islam. Number two practicing Islam number three thou art and promoting Islam. The prophet SAW Allah Islam in the Sahaba were the best of Muslims. They send people to do Dawa to the people of different cities for all the cities that people are doing Dawa in the one which had the best response was your trip. Many people have yet to be converted to Islam. The Prophet moves to that city is not has the majority of Muslim population, it becomes a Muslim city. What can we do today? We need to get the majority of Muslims to understand Islam correctly and to practice it correctly and to promote it to the non Muslims. Allah subhanaw taala tells us the

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Singapore and he should know he says that when you believe and you do good deeds allow will make you the halifa of the earth just like he made those before you hit the holy battlefield, listening surah Allah says that oh you will believe if you believe in

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do good deeds, Allah will make you the rulers of this earth, just like he did to those before. So the way of establishing an Islamic State is to have people

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wanting to live in Islamic State. Today, even the majority of Muslims will not want to live in Islamic State, and not ready for it. So our duty is to educate people, and to become a role model society. And the only thing we can do is to try and form communities. So instead of splitting up, and one Muslim family living in a city full of non Muslims, and other Muslim family living in another city for the Muslims get together, changes in many Muslim families as possible to live in one city and start building Muslim schools there, and Masjid and having Muslim doctors and Muslim lawyers all in one city. If you have this, we don't have a place that can grow. And now you start

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doing Dawa, and people who come to the city can see what Muslims are right. And this can be dry as well. The non Muslims living there can see the ideas of what Islam is like but this is what the Prophet did. When he moved to Medina. He didn't do any conquest, any military conquest, he didn't do any jihad. He simply moved into the city became the rulers, they became the majority they became the rulers, other people saw they began to train. So hijra in this manner, where people move to get into one city and try to form Islamic communities. That is one method. The other way is to education and our and being good Muslims. And Allah subhanaw taala has the promise of those that has told us in

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the Hadees that when the people are righteous, Allah will granted righteous rulers, when the people are corrupt a lot of the corrupt rulers today the majority of people are corrupt. That is why the majority of people we see the majority of countries in the world today have corrupt rulers, when we have a society or a country where the majority of people are righteous, that society a country will naturally produce a righteous ruler and over time will become extinct. So it won't be easy, it might take time might take a few generations. But that is our way, the long hard way which is rewarding to Allah, not a shortcut of trying to kill people in the process. There is no shortcuts agenda is no

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shortcuts to establishing itself.

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So with that inshallah we will be concluding soon. Again, a reminder there is no workshop in the next two weeks the next one will be on the first of December and whether much we'll be keeping that one.

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So you can check out if for more details on that for the better much sooner Facebook and

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again, check out the Islamic online university inshallah.

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Okay, the issue of being shy when doing our two non Muslims are really linked to our topic. Rather than selecting you should have a workshop on that issue.

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Okay, we're really trying to organize a workshop on the issue of breaking on shyness and you know, getting over these barriers to our PBL workshop about this with our inshallah so thank you so much to do that as one of the later workshops. So with that we will end for this week I'd like to thank each and every one of you who have joined and have made this a success. We all know how each and every one of us propagate Islam and be role models of Islam and you know, make this world a better place inshallah, South Africa one and we'll be left with alameen wa Salaam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh