Hatem al-Haj – Fiqh of Worship #32 – Congregational Prayers & Latecomers

Hatem al-Haj
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the importance of praying behind individuals in church or community, finding room in the row, and holding prayers behind a row. They stress the importance of praying behind a man who is preached to the wrong side of the thirteenth century, finding room in a row, and not pushing people back unless they want to line up behind them. They also discuss the importance of praying for life and the need for men to be aware of their sex. The segment concludes with a discussion of the importance of the Bible's stance on out of the house during prayer and the need for strong opinion when it comes to rules of immigration.
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So today inshallah we will go over the rest of the chapter on a mama or leading the prayer and we will then move to the prayer of the six a lot of married couples allotted married.

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And the previous two sessions on

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we went over parts of the mama, we talked about

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the order of priority when it comes to the selection of imams. We also talked about the people that may not leave the salon. And also in the last session, we talked about

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amendment started,

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started or amendment started.

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Started, one, the people want someone we're praying for the pain behind someone who's spraying something or someone praying and praying behind someone who's praying. And if you remember, we said that the majority do not allow them have started to pray behind them with an affair, the majority would not allow the one who's praying for them to pray behind someone who's praying enough and the most, the one must have that allowed this is the shaeffer

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authorized view and the other mazahub is that it is not allowable. And we discussed the proofs, you know, on both sides, keep in mind that we do not, we never

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basically discuss the proofs in an exhausting way like, we will never have a comprehensive exhausting discussion of the proofs, because if we attempt to do this, we will take about some 27 years

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to finish

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to finish the entire fence or the so it, it is not basically suitable, it's not appropriate. We are not at this level, what we're trying to do is to get a taste of the discussion, what the discussion is about, and the main points, the main points that they raised in the discussion, so that we can familiarize ourselves with the discourse that took place between Africa and the how they arrived at the various conclusions and variant conclusions that they arrived that what was the reason behind this. So this is what we're trying to do. Maybe at one point we can take a few points and have this sort of detailed comprehensive discussion of the proofs on all sides, but as an exercise,

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just an exercise.

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Okay, today inshallah we will go over

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for lining up for the prayers, we will go over when and when we talk about we will talk about praying behind the rows in front of the Imam, to the left of the Imam, how we should women line up

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and we will talk about catching the meaning here catching the reward or catching

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the ruling of Japan like you know, having caught the prayer in congregation and catching the rocker.

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And then in when we talk where if we finish the chapter of America and

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inshallah hopefully, we'll be able to start the prayer for the sick or the Bible's allotted married, we will talk about the position in which he would pray or she will pray and we'll talk about makeup if they were in coma or something. And we will talk about combining the prayers for the sick and we'll talk about combining the prayers for others as well. So let's start with Donna here said what is the kind of more hidden Moroccan Allah tala in his book, Allah Rhonda,

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which is primer In fact, and somebody said, What is the Canada moonwalk hidden? Walker for honey Amina? Mm. If there is only one moon, you know someone being led in the prayer, he should stand on the right side of the map. If there is only one more, he should stand to the right side of the map. This is because

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Buddha would report it this is reported from jabber and support the permanent bass and others when jabber came and paid Saba profits out of Southern paying and he's thought that his left Buddha would reports that from Java that the prophets of Salaam took him by the hand and turn him turned him around this way. You know

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And made him stand to his right. And then the same piece of paper, the old Java said, and then Jabbar came and stood to the left of the profits of about 70 balanced out now he found Java standing does right, he said to the left of the profits on Sutherland, see he took them by the hand and push them behind, you know, gently push them behind him

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so that they are praying behind them. So that is the proper way of joining someone in congregation, the first one that comes to join them, they pray to the right side, as in the hadith of jabber, and how do you have an Ibis as well. And then the second one that comes, they can pray to the left side, it will be valid the if the Imam stands in the middle, but it is it is inferior, a superior way, the center way is for them to step back if there is room and for the person praying on his right side to step back. And any you could point to him verbally or by some gesture that you should cook, I recommend, you know, step back, and then they they join each other and pray behind the email. And

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that would be the perfect way. If he stood to his left, someone is standing to his right. And someone standing to his left and the prayed like this. This was reported from the loudness road by outcome, and it is fine. But it is inferior because the son no way is for them to stand behind.

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verbally Yes.

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He wouldn't say I need someone to step

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behind or to step back to join the prayer. He will not be talking to him directly. But he will say this, and this is the map. If someone joining the congregation, and they did not find room in the last row, he will basically talk to them.

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You know, he'll make a verbal sort of gesture or

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or you know, like a bodily gesture, you know the point sign, give them any sign

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that will make them understand what he wants. But he can certainly say to them, can someone step back

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you know, and then he that person should actually step back one of them should step back in the last row

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to join him. So it is it's variable or by the poverty gesture in the Hanbury myth.

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So either kind of more than welcome finally immediately Ma'am, if there is only one, my mom he would he should stand to the right side or on the right side of the email

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saying welcome Tanya Sadie elk with them who

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are the who Lam Casa Highlander goon Umbra photographer.

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If he if he stands to his left or in front of him or alone, it is not valid. Unless it is a woman, then she should stand alone behind him. So if a woman wanted to join a man in congregation she reroutes or it's under, even if she has his wife, she stands behind her, not next. So, just like even if she has his mother, she stands behind him, not next to him, but his word, he lines up for the prey. Now, the

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he said if he stands behind, if he stands alone behind the rose, or he stands in front of the man, or if he stands to his left in all of these arrangements, has allies invalid in the embedding method, that's the authorized view in the method in all of these arrangements, and Salah is invalid

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What about behind the rows if he stands behind the rows in Salah is invalid if he comes in and he you know finds every you know everybody lined up and there is no room in the last row. What should he do? I mean if keep in mind that this is a Hanbury peculiarity if he says if he's praised behind the rows is Salah is in valid but you know,

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it is not just like simply somebody peculiarity.

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But, but it is Hannum Hanbury thing

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when it's wet, what Eve you know the thing is that even if he did not find any room, even if he did not find any room in the last row,

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Ham bellies will still invalidate his prayer if he preyed on behind the roll. And that would be the Hanbury peculiarity. So, what the ham bodies asked him to do is first go and stand to the right of the Imam, if you cannot find a place to the right of the Imam, then gesture to the people in the last row verbally or otherwise, they step back and join you and make a row with you. Behind the last row,

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they will say does this like say grab one of them, they will say it is this like to grab one of the the hammer fees. And the chef is decided with ematic ease in saying no, the Salah is not invalid behind the row. But still the HANA fees and shafa is when recommend for you to actually pull someone gently to the to be, you know, to step back. And, you know, make our own wisdom mahana fees and shafa is what recommended this for you, if you don't find room in the row, the honeyberries are not there saying that this is this like that you will not pull that you will either verbally or by any bodily gesture, indicate to them that you want someone to go step back to join you

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and make an additional role with you.

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The many keys are saying Don't worry about it at all pay alone No problems. It's not this like you know, just pray behind the rows.

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If you cannot find room in the row in the last row, pray behind, and you will be completely fine. Is that clear? So the magic is what 30 you don't do anything. Don't touch anybody spray behind the rose. The End Don't worry about

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the canopies and shafa is will tell you your survival divided up by the rose. But it is it is prescribed for you it is recommended for you that you gently pull someone to pray, you know and and you could actually just like tap on the shoulder just like anything that breaks and make them

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come back and four, step back and pray with you. The honeyberries will say keep in mind, your Salah is invalid behind the rows. So you have to figure out something go pray next to the Imam to his right side. If there is no way for you to do that, then you do need to even tell people in the last row, I need someone to step back and pray with me or gesture to them, you know

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But they'll tell you it is this like to pull them but if it's if at the end of the day, they're just not being too smart, then you will be mad at me watch me if you know that which is necessary for the fulfillment of an obligation is obligatory. So you will pull them

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and then this and this case they went need to follow you they went they should follow you that required him very wise to follow you.

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I know that there are many

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you will just you'll just look for someone else. But

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no 911 we don't want to call them later

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lady that is contemporary and much

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choice Yeah, a man's choice

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image choice and some magic ease and report within the hub Betty math hub is that in the case, that is what it was coming to.

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So, I said that in the case that

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that there is

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in case you have no room whatsoever in the in the case that you have some room in the last row and you pray behind, then the ham bodies will tell you your Salah is invalid and that is basically by

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you know

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that is by agreement as far as I know within the method. But if there is no place in the last row, there is a variance report and the must have which is this small a and next to that small a you could

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Add the small t for everything is choice. And you could add a small m for some medic ease but not the authorized view of the medical method. So small a small m small t will tell you in case you don't have room in the last row, you can pray behind and your Salah will be valid, your Salah will be valid. So some magic is decided to

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some magic is decided to basically take it at a different twist at the authorize the view, they're saying no, we did not mean that you could always pray behind the row and your Salah is invalid regardless of the presence of room and the last row or not. We meant if there is no place in the room in the last row, your Salah will be valid behind the sufu that symmetric keys but the authorize the view and the method is that regardless whether or not there is room, if you pray the loan behind the rows, your Salah will still be valid, your Salah will still be valid. If we take a lot of questions, we will we will have like two more sessions around the member. So write them down and

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then at the end or be after the session. We will have one hour for questions.

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Okay, where were we? Okay? Are we done with this behind the rows don't do it. If there is room in the last row really don't do it. Because then there is room in the last row then the very position is pretty strong that your Salah isn't you know is invalid, or let's say strong, because while this live demo, but it is reported by Abu Dawood from Addis Ababa, that the Prophet Sal olalia someone

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saw a man pray behind the rose, and he commanded him to repeat the prayer to repeat the prayer. And this leaf was reported by optimal intimacy, and it was considered reliable by a man. So he commanded the mentor repeat the prayer. That means his prayer was invalid. And the prophet SAW some of them added and some narrations lost a lot but even fatter than kakasoft there is no prayer, meaning there is no valid prayer for them and ferret for was one who prays alone consists of behind the rows. Therefore, when there is room in the last room, the Hanbury position seems to be strong, based on this Hadith of the alarm on

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if there is no room, if there is no room in the last row, then the disagreement is a strong disagreement. And some of the scholars argued on the other side, the non combative side that when Abubakar joined the prayer, you know when Abu Bakar came late to the prayer was reports by Bukhari vaca bakura, came late to the prayer and he made the Roku behind the rows and then walked like this. You know, he wanted to catch the Raka he knows that he wants to catch record to catch the record he needs to catch record. So he made found them in Roku. So he made rikuo and kept walking until he joined the

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the Astro Hey. So the scanner is on the other side say to the combat is where the Prophet did not commendable bachata to repeat the prayer.

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And he started his prayer behind the rows, the ham bodies will come back and say he prayed less than one rocker behind the rows. And that would not invalidate the prayer. We say it is invalid if he prayed one rock or more behind the rose. You know, anyway, you see the points are, it's clear where they're coming from on both sides.

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But certainly if there is room in the last row, make sure that you feel the true. Now he says that if he prayed in front of the man who Salah is still invalid, he if he prayed in front of the Imam, his Salah is also invalid. That is the combat II position. Combat II position is that his Salah is invalid that is not a peculiarity for the ham bodies. If you pray in front of the Imams that when when when supported that was somebody's position. And that is the HANA fees and shafa is when support will be with when somebody or somebodies will deal with the HANA fees and Chevrolet's on this one. So Hanafi sapphires and honeyberries will all say if you pray in front of the Imam, your

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prayer is invalid.

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Your prayer is invalid. Now.

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Maliki's will say if you pray in front of the Imam your prayer is valid.

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Not only if you are forced into it, but also in general, if you pray behind the Imam, your prayer is is valid to the mat to the medic ease in general. Not Not this and it's countered that it is not recommended, but when it comes to validity, they will validate it. They will not recommend it for you. They will not encourage you to pray in front of the EMA. They'll just tell you if you did it and it is it is not preferable and it's not recommended but if you did your Salah is valid. That is why in the Haram nowadays they take that position sometimes right you see that I'm praying in the back.

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And it's not a combative position, but it is a Maliki position. And it is also a variant Hanbury position and the choice of intimate

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in case there is a need for it in case there is a need. Then you have some Maliki's

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some ham buddies, including Deputy Mayor saying, if there is a need to pray in front of the Imam, you could pray in front of the Imam and your Salah will be valid. Keep in mind that the authorized Maliki position is that it is always valid regardless of the need. We're not talking about preference, we're talking about validity, it is valid to the medic is regardless of the need, but some medic ease some combat ease, including me or him Allah chose a middle position that it is invalid to pray in front of the Imam unless there is a need, then it would they would validate it, they would validate it and that is probably the position that they they go by in the heart of

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nowadays. Because you see sometimes the Imam is praying far away from the cabin, and people are praying in front of him.

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Now the third one here is praying to his left if you pray to the left of the Imam, the hand baddies will invalidate this as well. If you pray to the left of the man, they you know, they're pretty strict about this stuff you pray to the right. And then if you're to pray behind them, but they would still validate praying next to him.

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But but they would not allow you to pray in front of him. They will not allow you to pray alone behind them. If you're a man, they will not allow you to pray to his left, you have to pray it is right now he was having a job where he played next to the prophet SAW Southern Islam. And the Prophet turned him around and made him pray. On his right.

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That's what the combat is use, the moon will use Halley's Javelin to counter the homeready position and say to them, the jabber started to be able to the harm to his left, and the prophets all of a sudden grab them.

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And the Prophet did not invalidate the competitor.

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And had it been invalid thing via telephone is the most important part. You know, it would have he would have asked him to repeat the prayer because he made the

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to the left of why he was standing to the left of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, the honeyberries when counter this by saying that this was less than one record and discussion with care what carry on is this disambiguation because we're not taking any like we're not branching off

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or traveling.

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Yeah, and I said this in the beginning, that is our recording this from the webinar so that he, you know, prayed in the middle. If you stand to the right and the left, even if there is room to stand behind the Imam, they will all validate it all the time. It is valid if you have someone on his right and someone on his left. We're talking here about one person coming and praying to the left of the Imam. There is no one on the right. One person coming and praying to the left of a man without anyone being on the right. That is invalid in the Hanbury method. But if there was some person to the right, they will discourage this, but they will validate it. Yes, it is also disambiguation

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because I am trying as much as they can to finish this operation so it's preferable to the folks I've seen people, two people on the right and then one person on the left and then

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take the old grave on his right like a tray.

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That will be valid, but it is preferable that you try right left right left so that he is in the middle because because the center is for him to be in the middle, but if they pray to his right like a train, no and he is

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sort of the farthest points on the left that would be valid according to the forum as another

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Okay, so we covered behind inference to his left. So in this case, if we have a mastered, you know, that has like two

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floors are insanely people who are preying on the top level in front of the Imam. If there is any there is crowdedness, then that will be permissible according to whom Maliki's are very intimate and very messed up. And even famous choice.

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It would be permissible. Okay, so

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then immigrant Kodama, Rahim, Allah said, we're in Canada, Martin Walker, who controls and waterfall on Yemeni on Danny Bay. He saw her for in Walker Fukuyama who ohanian said he gave the other group now we're not talking about one person praying guy and the moment they are a group

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they should stand behind him. Like we said, the preference on them had jabber and Jabbar, you know, to you know,

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basically push them to the back

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or, you know, gently push them to the back.

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If they are a group, they should stand behind them if the stand to his right or on his on both sides. It is valid. However, if they stand in front of him, or to his left, it is invalid. The insula is invalid. And this is all clear, right? If they stand in front of him, the Salah is invalid. If they stand to the right, the sign is invalid. When is the Salah valid if you stand in front of the Imam according to the Hanafi madhhab. If the Imam was a woman, like we said last time, the men will stand in front of her and hear her voice prompt, you know and follow her this way. The earlier combat is not the latter combat is keep in mind the authorized viewing method is that women

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cannot be moms. But the earlier combat is the majority of the ARV our combat ease which are greater than buddies in any way. So the majority of their battle buddies are the ones who said that it is it is permissible for a woman to lead people in prayer. That means if they don't know how to resolve the fact that and she does, she can lead them in prayer, particularly in Torah. We in this case, the must pray in front of her, not behind her.

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And I'll be the exception.

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Then an email, Kodama said, Well insalata, Martin benissa, comet na hoona for Safi was alpha one.

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If a woman leads other women in prayer, she should stand between them in the same row.

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Like Solomon, I said that and this is the Hadith, you know that the honeyberries used to say that a woman could lead other women in our prayer, a woman can lead other women in prayer.

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And that is the sharper image also and the Hanafi says is disliked but there was the word validated. It's only the molecules that can test that position. The Hanbury is us Ayesha and Mr. Lamas, Lee, you know, a moment of enjoyment of other women as a proof on their position. But then these are how these are reported from Salomon eyes. It was also sad that they stood in the middle of the row,

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Connecticut enamel region, Laura Kuma Sato. Likewise, the amount of men who are not proper the coverage should stand amidst in among them or in their middle.

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So the amount of the men who are not properly covered with a standard in amidst them

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just like women lineup, which, you know, that tells you that, you know, it is all about propriety. It is all about modesty. So, then, he said when it's time to be an work on NASA when he did the Marija masovian, from NASA, some from an ISA.

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If there are men, boys, intersex persons, intersex persons used to be called hermaphrodites. We're talking about people who have genetic, you know, ambiguity in their external genitalia. That is what this discussion is about, you know.

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homeplan is different from an MCI

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Less than mohana is the one who has behavior. It is a behavioral issue. Hunter is someone who has a medical issue, not a behavioral issue. So here he's talking about intersex persons in the sense of having ambiguity in the external genitalia. That's another Mohandas. So the plural of this would be the harasser. intersex persons used to be called hermaphrodites. True hermaphrodites, the people that can really not be figured out truly like half half is extremely rare happens like 120 5 million births is true hermaphrodite has you know, complete male organs completely made organs

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and that would be the you know, no medicine can figure this out.

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In the past, few and Zulu hermaphrodites used to be a problem for the scholars, because they did not have the means to figure out things in in the presence is only 204 days that will be a problem that cannot be figured out medically whether they belong here or belong there. It is a Melbourne kurama you go back and see how

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how sort of

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considerate our scholars were and how, you know, sort of

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verifying and precise they were, it was a win win. For them, I used to be asked about someone whether he should be

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assigned a male or a female *, he would go down to asking about their hobbies, he would ask about everything. So not only the genetic level or the level of internal organs or external to that, he would also ask about their hobbies. And if they prefer sewing

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over you know, like archery or something, then they would be assigned a female * versus a male *, they rely heavily on behavior of inclinations, to assign them to *, but if they are somewhere in the middle, then they will stand you know, between in the middle here, so between the men and the women, so it will be men than boys then intersex persons, then women.

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And keep in mind that like so sometimes we come across the those sort of difficult dilemmas in our massages where there is some person

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that the scholars provided solutions for the for those people when they did not tell them.

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Don't ever step foot inside the master that but they provided solutions that will not cause anyone to be uncomfortable, whether it is the males or the females.

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But the issue of this is beyond the issue of the boy is where do the boys line up at the position of the majority of the scholars and authorize the view in the form of valve is that the boys will line up behind the men and men there we however analysts have said that in the math, you know in meditative abney Tamia who is the grandfather of the CFA, the

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epitome of the grandfather of the famous of Tamia must have been in a match chose that when the boys come early and join the first row they may not be pushed back,

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pushed to the back and and the mirror there we said that this is the correct position. And if you know that he is not like a small figure in the embedding method. So he said this,

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this position had been hotter than 18. He also was fairly sided with this position and was more photographer how to relate me. He also said that boys should not be pushed to the back if they come early, enjoying the first row. This is the the I believe strongly in this position. Hi, I almost quit praying because I was pushed back to you know, I remember may have been nine or 10 at that time or eight. But I almost just like you know, give up.

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Because it just it was very disheartening to me. Because I was really serious about praying. And I felt that I was more serious than the some of the adults in the first row and I came early and I joined I stood up in line I didn't you know, I was very serious about it. And then when they were pushing me back all the time, it just felt so disheartening and then at one point, I had a discussion with my mother

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fact about it older, you know, had my mother also, at that time, she was not really particularly

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comfortable about me going to the masjid because like, you know,

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people with beards and stuff like

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that was in the late 70s, in Egypt in the late 70s, you know, stem very,

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particularly at one when they killed the unrest, the president of Egypt, you know, bearded men, you know, those Islamic groups and stuff, it became people became a lot more a lot more concerned. But anyway, so but, you know, she got the right and hammer at the time, you know, right, though, at the time, and she told me, you know, if you really, like, if you're going to pray to Allah subhanaw taala, just don't worry about those people. And if you're really wanting to do this to please Allah subhanaw taala just keep on going.

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You know, other times, she was really uncomfortable about me going to that method, but but she did not really want me to not pray at the masjid or to not be involved in this, you know,

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this world, you know, it was an annual thing of Islamic awakening was still in the in the very beginnings in Egypt during that time in the 1970s.

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But it was, that is why I'm very passionate about this position. Because I really went through it, I felt very discouraged, I felt very hurt when I was supposed to the back. So where, you know, where is this position coming from? Please, you're pushing them back. I mean, if if there is a lot of kids, and we want to line them up, and they are okay being lined up behind the men, and when they will not create a lot of noise. And

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you know, that is fine, let us do this. But if we have a trickle of kids coming in, and they, they are joining the first and the second row, and so on, trying to pray with next to their fathers or trying to be alone, but just pray, then I don't think that they need to be pushed back. First, have you ever worked with a Muslim or the Prophet salallahu Salam certainly hadn't even come to know her. Let the people who the people of understanding of you knowledge and understanding among you.

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Pray behind me the idea and even come pray behind me be next to me pray behind me to correct me. And if I if there is a need for correction during the prayer and so on this, Habib is particularly about that part of the row, not the entire first row, it is particularly about that part in the center, behind the Imam where we will have and some of the scholars also said that this for this statement of the prophet SAW Southern was not to forbid other people from coming early and being behind handstand standing behind them. It is to encourage the people of knowledge and understanding to come early so that they can be behind them. Because there are no reserved seats in the master. Really no

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reserved seats, and no one would be pushed. Yes, it was reported authentically from obey of Nick capital, he finally found a younger man praying behind the Imam and he sort of pushed him and took his place.

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And, but this is not coming from the Prophet saws. And once again, this is about the just that area in the first row right behind the email.

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Now the other half is that this report is about the lining up of the men,

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boys and women, this hadith as I as you have in the book, has shot up in the house, I've been in the train, and you know the people who are

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interested in the science of hobbies, you know, the discussions about out of the house.

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Like it's an endless discussion, but he is not considered to be that reliable for this to be reliable.

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Now, what else do we have? We have 100 of misalignment. This is important the Bible quality leading his people in prayer at age seven. Isn't that true? So if he if this boy at age seven led his people in prayer, and this happened during the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, and he has this tribe was farther away from the Prophet but the prophet SAW Selim wouldn't have likely heard about it. People from that tribe would have likely you know, known what what how what should be done in this case, but you have someone very comfortable in Solomon leading his people to prayer when he was seven if the if he could be seven and and, and, and be the Imam. How can we he can

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not praying the first row or the second row.

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So I am particularly passionate about this opinion don't push them to the back unless they unless we're talking about you know, like a Sunday school or like an end of the day will line up then you you do make them line up behind the rows you do make all the people that will come from the Sunday school or come from the full time school line up behind the rows that would be the proper order. But if there is a trick of boys coming in and joining the first in the second and third rows, allow them to play where they

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basically are where they are wherever they are.

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Okay, we're done with this the last thing here in this chapter woman cup but a couple of ceramic mmm forgot agriculture now on other carriacou Africa, Africa, Africa in Africa.

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This about latecomers he says he who makes the beer before that the slim of the Imam has caught up with the congregation who makes thick beard before that esteem of the Imam has caught up with the congregation. That is the position of the forum is that when it comes to the reward keep in mind that also according to the former head, he did not catch up in the sense that

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let me tell you there's

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not another format I have so so if someone is is a traveler and he prays behind someone who's a resident and he catches the air right before this leave he makes that clear right before it this lien. Is this person now going to pray to Iraq as if this is work is he going to pray to or is he going to pray for

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for according to the format that he is going to pray for according to why because he caught up with the congregation before they made this leap that rules will apply to him he must finish the prayer as the as the congregation made it so if the congregation if this was a congregation of residents and they prayed for he needs to pray for that is the format Okay, now next one, if he came in and made thick beer before the stream and jomar when he prayed to her for

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for according to whom ye you know that there are so many disagreements and FERPA that you'll always be like almost always be right.

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Okay, but to according to whom

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Okay, it's according to everybody except the Hannity's. happies are a billion BBQ peculiar here

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at singularity. So according to the hafeez he caught the joma he prays to his fine fear surprise. Yeah, but the magic is sapphires and the hand that is the magic is sapphires. And Hanbury said he did not catch the drama, because they catch the drama, you need to catch one Raka. So here the magic is in shuffle is

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zero and the honeyberries are saying something different. You know, they're saying, if you come before that this theme, you caught that as well. They will tell you what you meant that he will catch the reward of the Jamal. But when it comes to the rulings now, he did not really catch it, in the sense that you know, he will he will, he caught the drama and he will pray only to rock us No, this will count as normal for Him He will need to pray for because he did not catch that aka we did not catch that aka, but where is this coming from? You know, so so it is coming from like, different reports. One of the points is from from a woman IRA. All right. Abu Dhabi predicted from

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the prophet SAW Southern sentiment

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caraka whoever catches up with Roku catches up with Raka or you know, is Yeah, so that is hard.

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But then there is another heavy that is reported by Bukhari and Muslim from Abu hurayrah. Where

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were the prophets Allah seven said, Man Africa, like I attend Mena, South Africa, Africa, Salah whoever catches up with one record of the prayer he

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caught up he would have caught up with the prayer with a prayer have those two hobbies together?

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Then you will find that the variant view and the Hanbury mess hub, which was chosen by me Tamia doesn't actually make sense. They said, and and some other scholars from others, I have sided with them, they said in this variant view of choosing, namely, they may know you don't catch anything unless you have caught the Roku. Or if you did not catch the Roku of the last soccer, you did not catch anything. Because he did not catch that aka, you did not catch the Jamal.

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So is that clear? That sounds to be clear, right? Because the prophets as Adam said, If you catch the ruku, it catches on aka and then the prophet SAW Selim said, If you catch that, aka you catch the Salah. So, if he did not catch the Roku, he did not catch the rock and if he did not catch the rock, it did not catch on. But that is not the position of the authorize the view and the form as I have and we said that we don't really steer away from the position of the authorized view of the forum as I have accepted there is a need stringent criteria that we discussed before and we will not repeat now, in the interest of time.

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So, how could we justify to ourselves to take the position of the you know, we are we are taking the agreement of the authorized view in the form of vibe all the time, except at certain times if there is a need with some stringent criteria that we discussed, but what how did that form is I have answer that variant view in the kamberi Mazda that no you don't catch anything unless you have caught the rocker How did the answer this they said that the profits of a lot SLM also said you know, in this long cabbies refer to harmonic music, you know, what

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he said, from the attraction for some new one fighter confetti ammo. So when he when he conveyed to the prayer, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said, whatever you catch with them, pray with them, whenever he catches them, pray with them from a baktun facade do whatever he can to them, pray with them. One more factor comfort him and whatever you miss make up for it.

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This means that sort of as Connor said, if so he did not say if you catch them before the record, he said whenever you come in, just join them. Even if it's right before the stream and they're saying he would have not told them this he would have not advised them to join the gym. He is the first Gemma be unless the couch any work unless there is reward in catching them before that asleep. Otherwise he would have told them to wait until that he can make a second Jamal. So that is that is how the author authorizes you in the form as I have justifies their position that

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for Juma for Gemma, now they are saying that we will make a distinction between the reward and the ruling that he warned he will catch the word if he comes in at any time and makes his thick be before the first tasleem of the email.

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For Juma

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everybody would say he would pray for except for the HANA fees will say he will pray to

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but in America, Chavez and honeyberries would say that he will pray to and I'm not gonna you

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know, I know this is no, I'm disappointed because I want it to finish a lot of money in the prayer of the sick.

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A lot of money it will take. It's talking about combining the prayers and we'll get into a lot of discussions about you know, the other reasons to combine the prayers, it will take a good one hour. So that's not enough. I only have seven minutes. I wanted to start and just like finish having better something but it's not just it's not doable. So in another question, yeah. So the

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you know, like if the Imam did not come up and you join the Imam and you have your, like, just

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he had the least amount of tonina before the Imam comes up with any account

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with the penalties have better evidence here because the prop box didn't mentioned specifically.

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And we didn't differentiate between it was generally mentioned.

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But then, yeah,

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he said join. So maybe it's maybe like the other the other imams are saying he can

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As the reward but when it comes to the rulings the other police will apply, which is when other Academy Raka Raka Raka

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Raka Salah, whoever catches one of the Salah catches the Salah.

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what the HANA fees would use is from an attractant for some normal factor compatible, whatever you catch with them, pray with them and whatever you miss make up for it. Does that say that he does not say Miss that's not very clear on him catching the Juma the ruling of the German

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No, because there are various reports of the hubby's color cotton Nina, South Africa Salah, whoever catches one of this Allah catches Allah in addition to my avocado, Catherine, Minnesota,

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another kind of coffee loss

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you know, after after all of those opinions, what's the worth of my opinion anyway?

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It is safer to pray for Yes, because it's safer to pray for

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And we will we will take this ambiguous ation. You know,

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I only have three minutes to answer questions that are related to this ambiguous question and then we will give five minutes for people to leave when you know at 10 o'clock, we will give five minutes for people to leave. We want to be respectful to people's times. So we'll finish this immigration in three minutes. Give five minutes for people to leave, and then go have our question and answer session afterwards.

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