Channel: Ahmed Deedat
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This the subject as has been advertised for this evening's discussion is
Christianity and Islam.
I think we would rather have it as Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Because there is a definite affinity
between these three great semiotic faiths.
See, the religions of the world can easily be divided into two major groups. One group of religions called the Aryan religions and the other group of religions, the Semitic religions.
Among the Aryan religions, I would consider Hinduism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism.
This is of the Aryan group, the Semitic Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
the unity of these three faiths consists
in the unity of God.
You see in the fundamentals of the teachings of Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad,
may the peace of God be upon them all. There is not an iota of difference,
as in the fundamentals of the teachings of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed. I didn't say in the teachings of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
not in the fundamentals of the teachings of these prophets, I said, there is not an iota of difference
between the religious groupings there are many differences.
When I say there is no difference in the fundamentals, I mean, like, for example, the first commandment,
the very first commandment as given by God Almighty, to the Holy Prophet Moses,
was in the Hebrew language. Shema Yisrael, Adonai eloheinu Adonai, which means, here Israel, the Lord, our God, the Lord is one
the first commandment
some 13 150 years after Moses,
a learned man of the Jews called a scribe, in the Gospel of St. Mark, chapter 12, verse 29, this learned man of the Jews comes to Jesus and questions him.
He said Master, in the Hebrew language, Rabbi, maulana learned Mencia
Master, what commandment is the first of all?
And Jesus answers and says unto him, in the Hebrew language, Shama
Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. He repeated word for word, what was given by Moses 1300 years before without the change of a dot?
That in the fundamentals of religion in the fundamentals of belief of faith, there is no change.
He confirms the very words given by Moses, some 600 years after Jesus.
A Christian deputation comes to the Holy Prophet Muhammad in Medina.
And they were having a dialogue for three days and three nights in the masjid and nabawi, the most of the Prophet
this mosque of the Prophet is a newer to be compared with Islamic Center, the mosque, the beautiful mosque here in Geneva. This must have been mud was thatched roof and plastered with mud on the floor. Maybe the grass metal or Pamela fiber met
this Christian deputy
Was accommodated in the mosque. They slept in the mosque, they act in the mosque, they discussed in the mosque for three days and three nights.
During the course of this discussion, this dialogue, the spokesman for the Christian poses the question said, All right, all right now, Mohamed, among so many other things tell us now, what is your concept of God.
And the Holy Prophet Muhammad is made to say, who Allahu Ahad say he is God, the one and only
he said, I had one and only Jesus said he had meaning one and only Moses had said, meaning one and only what is the difference is the same word meaning the same thing I had an ad in Hebrew, in Arabic means one, if that in Hebrew means one. And the difference between these two words is only the pronunciation. If I did, the blackboard was in here, if I had the foresight, I would have told them to bring the blackboard near that. I don't want it now. And if I had a chalk, I would write ahead Elif ha da, ah, in Arabic meaning one and only. And to make an ad on the high put dot that we can,
we can just by putting a dot that is in the writing category. But as far as the meaning is concerned, the word is concerned, it means one understanding
that God Almighty is the one and only being that is. So my statement, that in the fundamentals of the teachings of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad is not an iota of difference.
And according to the Muslim belief, there is no such thing as Judaism, Christianity and Islam. It is only Islam. In the verse I read to you from the Holy Quran, God Almighty says in Edina, in the line Islam, so most certainly the religion that is acceptable in the sight of God is Islam.
Then what about Judaism?
What about Christianity?
When they exist, there's no such fate as Judaism or Christianity. I said, Yes, not by name.
These names didn't exist. You see,
this word Judaism? Where does it come from? You ask, did you learn and manage? Did you ask him?
Where does this word Judaism originate? Is it in your Bible?
The Bible of the Jews, the Old Testament, the Old Testament, in this Christian Bible, called the Holy Bible is divided into two parts called the Old Testament and the New Testament, the Old Testament is the Bible of the Jews.
Now, in this Old Testament, there are the first five books of this Old Testament called Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. And these are supposed to be the Torah, with a Torah, the Torah, Torah means the law, these five, first five books, this is the fundamental the basis of the teachings of Moses, Torah, Torah.
Is this word Judaism to be found in the Torah? He says, No, it's not there.
Is it in the Talmud? He says, No, it's not there. Is it in the midst?
He says, No, it's not there, then we need to get it.
Where did you get this term Judaism from? did Moses hear this?
If Moses was alive, today, if we can meet personally, maybe in the Hereafter, and if he had the
opportunity of questioning him said, Oh, Moses, tell us what is what was your religion?
What is the name of your religion that you are teaching? I do not expect him to say Judaism.
Because the poor man he never heard the word in Judaism in his life.
What do I expect him to say? It's said my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will.
A beautiful description, a lengthy description for the religion which he thought. Now one word for that in the Arabic language is Islam.
He is giving a description, a religion of total submission to God's will.
We say that word one word for that in Arabic is Islam.
Judaism comes from the word Judah. Judah, one of the sons of Jacob is right. yaku jacobellis Allah. He had 12 sons and Judah was the eldest daughter.
Now when the Jews
Are the bunnies rallying the Israelites when they conquered Palestine? Palestine was divided among the tribes, there were 12 tribes, and each tribe was a portion, certain portion of land in Palestine.
That portion of land occupied, occupied by the children of Judah was called Judea.
And the people outside they said that the religion followed by the children of Judah in Judea, Judaism.
That's how this came about. It's not in the Torah is not in the mood is not in the Mista. This is an inventor who concocted word they contracted it and they liked the term and they adopted Judaism. But poor Moses, he never heard about Judaism.
What about Christianity?
If he had an opportunity,
in the second coming, Jesus Christ, if you have a chance of asking him
who Jesus, what is your religion?
I do not expect him to say Christianity, because he also never heard the term.
Believe me in his lifetime. He never heard the word Christianity. He never heard the word caste in his lifetime, he never heard those terms.
If he said Christianity, we have a right to ask him. What do you belong to sir?
What church? Are you an Anglican, Roman Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, or a Jehovah's Witness or a Seventh Day Adventist or more on what I watch?
you'll agree is ridiculous. To ask Jesus, what
do you expect him to say?
We expect him to say that my religion is a religion of total submission to God's will. And one word for that in the Arabic language is Islam.
his religion was Islam. The religion of Moses was Islam and Moses was a Muslim. The beauty of Jesus was Islam and Jesus was a Muslim.
Does that mean he was following Muhammad?
Must Muslim means one who submitted the will of God. Abraham was a Muslim. David was a Muslim, Solomon was a Muslim. Jesus was a Muslim, Muhammad was a Muslim. Anyone who submits to the will of God is a Muslim. The whole of nature is Muslim. They all submit to God's will, man. Often, of course, he goes against the will of God and He is not submissive. He says I'm an atheist, agnostic, he says many things about himself. But nature, everything in nature, the sun, the moon, the stars, the planets, the planets, everything submits an asset in Islam, they are all Muslims. They about to God's will. Man is the only exception.
So the religion, how are divided with Christianity?
Is it in the Bible, Holy Bible.
The word Christianity is not there.
But there is the word Christian.
It does occur.
It occurs in the New Testament
at Antioch, at Antioch.
The enemies of the followers of Jesus disparagingly they pointed to them tell him that these are Christians, implying that these are the worshipers of Christ.
So they will call by the enemy's Christians. Jesus didn't say I'm a Christian. He didn't tell his disciples, you're Christians. No is the enemy saying that these are Christians, worshipers of Christ
like Buddhists, in all these invented terms, Buddhism, the Buddha say my religion is Buddhism.
No, Jesus Christ, Christianity, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism.
These are people applying labels from the outside. And sometimes people love these invitation labels concocted labels. You see in my country, I come from South Africa.
In my country, we have been divided into races is the land of apart hate apart means keeping apart hate Africans are a part of the philosophy of keeping people apart.
So in keeping us apart, naturally it creates businesses.
the white man cause the black man, everybody who is not a European is black, no matter how it looks is black. In my country, if you don't originate from Europe, you are black, no matter how it look.
Like me when I go to some of the African countries, the kid is a white man, and I get rough treatment. I am the black man you are fighting for me.
It is me who's being persecuted and you also kicked me in the face What's wrong with you? Can you see
My children a lighter complexion with me but they apply, no matter what you look you are black, if you don't you originated in Europe.
So they divided the communities. Among the whites, there is a big division. But for the purpose of convenience, they are united in ruling the black man.
Among the whites, they are the African as well ruling at the moment by force of numbers, they are in power.
The English speaking people they were ruling for a long time until 19 110 at the union took place and they started ruling together and the English people were ruling in somehow around 1948 or somewhere that the African mission you know, they came to the top by force of numbers they got into power and there's no no power no can move them now.
Unless there is a revolution. The English and the Germans and the French all put together can do nothing because the African will be dominated by numbers.
So among the whites, the African
calls the English man remake.
Rui neck in his language means rednecks.
rednecks because he says that this guy's a softy, you know he goes in the Central Valley gets written in the neck, you know softie, effeminate fellow Englishman.
And the English man calls the African a Buddha. Buddha means foreigner. But when he says Buddha, he means backward, rustic. He doesn't mean Buddha literally means a farm.
But when an Englishman calls him a Buddha, it means you backward, rustic fellow.
So the Englishman calls in Buddha and this guy calls in Grenada,
then they call me my people, they call us coolies.
Good news, because some of our people went to laboring in South Africa to cut sugarcane. So they said they went as indentured laborers, they saw every Indian equivalent coolum insulator.
Then there is a colored community is a mixture between white and black, there are about 3 million. The white man created them. When he went to South Africa, that part of the world he didn't take his wives along with him. So he got stuck into the Bushman woman and the woman and the man to woman and he created a mixed breed of people, 3 million today, his children, but they are all rejected. The white man rejects them all. He calls them partners with hottentots Bushman.
They are the colors in my country. Colors means mixed breed. But when he talks about them because I'm Bushman, potent, or whatnot,
and the African, the sense of the soil, he is called Kapha. Now when he goes through, he's a Catholic.
So these are labels applied by the enemies.
I know in
the English one doesn't go on boosting,
the African, it doesn't go on boosting,
the color doesn't go down goes down or whatnot. But on top
is the outside of the enemy's pointing disparaging name calling such names. But the Christians love the term. So they adopted it
is a term invented by the enemies? You wish it was? Buddhist
Buddhists. And they know that
they say that we
know there is no such creature on earth. They don't know that we didn't carry them to Mohammed. They've been calling us mohammedans worshipers of Buddha Buddhist worshipers of Christ like Christians worship of Muhammad Muhammad.
But there is no such creature there is no
we are 1000 million Muslims in the world today, worshipers of God God Almighty. Mohammed is a messenger, a prophet. He is no God. But this is the Westerners way of labeling people. We worship Christ. So we are Christian. That guy which is Buddha is a Buddhist. So these guys must be worshipping Muhammad Ali moment.
But this is how the word Christian came about in the book, and Christianity around the world. And where did the word Christian come from comfortable with Christ, with the word Christ come from? It came from the word Messiah.
Arabic mercy, which means the anointed, I will be dealing with that aspect tomorrow, about Christ in Islam, I will do that.
But now what we see is that in the teachings of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, there is not an in the fundamentals, not an iota of difference. They all came from the same God, preaching the same religion,
each according to the time a according to the needs of the people.
This is the religion of God, according to the needs of the people. God
Mighty his people guides
the Jews, the children of Israel. They came out of Egypt in bondage. They moved into the Sinai Peninsula moving from Oasis to oasis.
A nomadic people
40 years in the desert, they needed a law that will give them quick justice. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Beautiful law.
Beautiful law eye for an eye tooth for the eye damage your eye. You damaged mine. I broke your toe, you break mine move on, there's work to be done. There is no time for lengthy litigations. There's no time for putting putting a man in prison.
It was more merciful to get rid of an adult
and the adulterous by stoning them that than to leave them in the desert to die of hunger and thirst. It was more merciful and they become an object lesson for others is don't you do that? See what happens however,
you like to go through that.
silica the system allows if one woman is not enough, get another. If two are not enough, get for you four are not enough. Get 40 Solomon had 1000 wives and concubines 1000
if your system allows you 1000 wives and concubines, why interfere with somebody else's property?
You are an anti social character. You deserve that.
Beautiful law, beautiful law for a nomadic people.
But laws have a tendency to change characters of people over a period of time, any law, every law.
And you see examples of that. Hitler Germany,
we learn they tell us that 6 million Jews were incinerated?
True or false?
Is your 6,600,000 6000 I say it's dramatic enough.
And one of the most cultured nations in Europe, the land of Greek in bitola. Can you imagine them incinerating human beings? 6 million Jews? If it is true 6 million Jews? Could they have done it? Yes.
How is it possible programming brainwashing? We all can be brainwashed into anything
over a period is this a parasite? Christ killer the killer Lord Jesus Christ killers.
They record women and kill the Jews and they fled from one country to another in Poland in France in Germany in England, every European nation at Easter time they were persecuting killing the Jews and their anti muslim lands seeking refuge and the Muslims accepted them open arms
is the Arab family and playing come testing you a member of the family and be at ease and they went and lived among the Arabs 1000 years running from country to country Christian nations go to the Muslim land the Muslim accept them with open arms.
But tough with having bad laws. In this law here in Germany, program people program destroy the Jews and they did it.
In South Africa, my country, we are a color conscious country. Everything is based on color.
That we also everybody becomes color conscious. You know I feel that I'm a little lighter than the other fellow. superior than him. Everybody feels on the grounds of his complexion his superior to the other guy. When I'm looking for a daughter in law, I look for a daughter with the lightest complexion.
We all suffer from inferiority complexes cultivated over a period color color color.
The Indian is made to feed is better than the African.
The colored is made to feel is better than the Indian and the white refuses to pay is better than them all. This is is cultivated
see each and everyone feels also that
I am better than the other because I'm lighter than him.
in that country, it has been my hobby talking to people I talk to people I love to talk about God about religion I like to share and not only sharing my thoughts I like to share the food that I eat. And I have invited Indians Africans colors white to my home. Please businessman, ordinary man in mind. I have invited dozens of white people to my home.
Men and women for me and a chat. They enjoy my chat and they enjoy my food.
Our food is exotic you know the Pakistani food I don't know if you have tasted this we haven't we must try. Our someone says a lot of people don't know what size somebody I think from God. He wrote to me says looking
On one of your pots, you know you're talking about something science. What is this a messiah as well as some Pakistani fellow to mix them and
immediately eat it into tasty for these exotic exotic food.
You know the the other Indians, the other Indians meaning those white Hindu Pamela's Hindustani, is telling us, they enjoy our food. The African enjoys our food, the white men enjoy food.
So they enjoy my talk and enjoy my food.
And they thank me profusely when they go.
But no white man has ever called me to his house for a cup of tea in 40 years.
Why? I asked him, point blank as you people, don't you know how to reciprocate in your community? Do you ever reciprocate? Of course you do. Then how is it that nobody no white man has ever called me to his house with a cup of tea?
They meet me in the street subsequently says you know, how's the missus is very fun.
And you know how grateful he is for the media, but it doesn't say what about coming in having a cup of tea with me bring the family down. He doesn't do that. Why not?
The reason is that in the back of his mind,
he's thinking of me as a man of color. I am an Indian. I'm an inferior person. If I ever went to school with my family, you know,
the long trousers and the down you know, the attire long dress and all that and me with my funny headgear and beard. I'm going and knocking at number 10 Downing Street, and people watering the garden. And the lady of the house. She opens the door, and she recognizes me Oh, Hello, Mr. D, that come in, come in. People are watching this and look at her know how she welcomes his cruelty.
And I go inside and we sit down and we have a chat. Five minutes pauses for half an hour an hour. So what's going on inside there? Is this Mr. Smith running a brothel or something? You know, selling liquor? liquor? What? What's going on?
So at the back of the mind, they're terrified. They have the feeling good, but what do people say? And if I happen to be there, if the man's brother in law comes along, he'll have to apologize for my presence. You know, this is Mr. D that, you know, we went to his home and he when his family dinner is a wonderful time, all that he has to do. In other words, to exchange the reason for what may be there. not supposed to be there. But it is another white man that says Mr. Brown Hello. Hello. So this is Mr. White. Hello. So me explain why he doesn't say
what does it
say color conscious. Even the police ministers, everybody has the same programming. We all get programmed brainwashed.
into different attitudes. laws have a tendency to change characters or people over a period of time. You have harsh laws, or laws who repeat that people also become hardened.
So between Moses and Jesus, by the time Jesus comes on the scene,
the Jews had become hard hearted. They had forgotten forgiveness.
So they went for the letter of the law. A man was trying to chase the birds from the field with an old fashioned sling. You remember the one that David used?
And there is my eyes. So good. The judge
the man please. Look, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it was an accident. forgiving. I said no. The law says An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. That's what the law says. says Look, I will compensate you. I'll give you a kid from the flop. And you will have
forgiven you know the law says An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Here's right as a law.
This is what Jesus finds among his people.
They're going for the letter of the law and they forget in the spirit. So as a spiritual Physician
He prescribed the remedy
for the hardheadedness, for going for the letter of the law and forgetting the witnesses now you must forgive and you must forgive. How many times Lord, Sister 70 times seven.
It means indefinitely. It's not to be taken literally 70 times seven minutes 490 you don't start counting look is a fifth time.
This is the fifth time now you have wrongly This is
No, you don't do that indefinitely. Who's gonna start counting? 497 4949 No. 1414 turn the other cheek. Beautiful, beautiful Teach for a certain sickness. You don't want to forget you don't want to forget
Forgive me, if a fellow strikes you in the right data, if a man makes you walk one mile walk with Him to if a man takes a podium you also agree with an adversary quickly that Jesus was out with him on the way before he takes you before the magistrate and makes you depart with your last father.
for a sickness. If you haven't got that sickness, it's suicide.
For the sickness,
it is not as a panic is not as a panacea.
I have been telling my British people, you see, they have been ruling my people for over 100 years. So when I go to ss, you know, you are good Christians, you know what you have to have done when Hitler wanted to invade
you good Christians, Jesus's turn the other cheek. Jesus said, If a man takes your code in your cloak also. So your coat coat is your country and your cloak is your empire, you should have welcomed Hitler. Hey, man, you can have the Empire as well you can
take it good Christians. Why didn't you do it?
So nice and natural. What you did was natural.
You have to defend your position and your position.
And to extend your hostilities to a reasonable amount of satisfaction and retaliation in the state of nature. Everyone has a right to do that. What you did was natural, it was Islamic,
but is against the teachings of Jesus, you are not a good Christian, you are a hypocrite. You say you're following Christ, but you're actually falling home. This is the teaching of Muhammad, that you must defend yourself
with whatever you have,
your teaching was given given
So, you see this is a remedy for a sickness. His teaching was as he says himself, Jesus Christ
is telling his people, the Jews,
that he has come for the Jews I have not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, I have only come for the June. That is what he says the remedy is for the Jews for the sickness not for yours. I would be happy though European war will practice what Jesus told them.
Practice that turn the other cheek, give you a quote and your group also, I want to see you do that. I want to see who does the Christian way.
But preaching sounds good.
You know, law turning the key is that there isn't.
So the teaching each profit according to means of his people. He prescribed a remedy.
And in that system of religion, Islam is the culminating point.
Among the Semitic religions. Islam is the fulfillment of the teachings of Moses in Jesus. It is a same religion on different levels. It's not a different religions. If mankind creates visitations, creates fruits, adonis, this is the nature of man. He is not satisfied with simple straightforward instructions. This is man. He's complicating things himself. You see the Jews. If you read the Bible, you read the the prophets of the prophets came to them, warning them,
that they must worship the one and only God that is, is that you must worship the Lord God by God, who is a jealous God. And he says that I shall have no graven images before me, not even the light of the likeness of the things on Earth, or in the heavens above, or in the waters beneath the sea, for my name is jealous, and I'm a judge. Nothing before me,
worship Me and Me alone, direct, our nothing intermediary in between me, and you come to me.
After that's after perfect mornings after
they made the golden calf,
then that you hear about the golden calf, the golden cup, and we laugh.
We laugh at the Jews. As the laugh is on all of us. We are all the same.
All we are the same. We are given simple, straightforward instructions, but they're too simple for us. And we too clever for the simple instructions. So we must find many inventions that we read in the book of Ecclesiastes, in the Bible is he the Lord had made men upright, but he had sought out many inventions. He has made you simple, straightforward, straight teaching the Lord God is the one and only God that there is but you must know history in
multiple multiplicity, you create ideas. Usually he's a he's a spiritual being. He says, God is spirit and that that those that worship Him must worship Him in spirit.
Not in form, shape or size, but we must have form shape and size.
He says this is what I want to argue that
this is man, every man Every man is like that. I can't say that the Muslims are totally exempt from that sickness we also have sicknesses. But this is the nature of man. We laugh at the joke, but this is laugh is also announced we are also in the same boat.
So they made the golden path.
Jesus Christ comes and teaches his people. Come, sell teach you how to pray, say pray like this. Oh, which art in heaven.
Hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
He is the father of everybody means he's our Lord, cherish our Creator sustainer revolver of everybody.
Metaphorically, he is the father of everybody.
But we missed the mark. He said, Come, I will teach you how to pray. Our Father. And when he taught them this, Judas was one of them.
That the Lord God is the father of evil Judas the traitor.
He is the father of everybody the good and the bad is the father of everybody's spiritual. He's everybody's father means everybody's creed.
But you'll find groups and groups of people they can see that this is the father of Jesus Christ. He called him a bad, abandoned father that is his real father.
But he's telling you in Mrs. Column about you mean his father, in the Jewish language, there was nothing wrong with that in his time is forbidden. So we don't call him father.
That because it's a bad word. There's nothing wrong with the word father.
But this word father has now got other connotations.
Therefore, it's student Islam.
You know, it's an amazing situation that in the Holy Quran, we are given 99 attributes of God.
In this book, 99, attributes,
qualities of God, that He is a raw, he is
one of the verses of the Quran surah of the Quran says, who will love and love Elijah? He is Allah Besides, when there is more than and money the king could use the Holy One As salam, the source of peace and perfection.
As Allah Allah, Allah, Mohammed Al Aziz al Jabbar, Allah
who Allah who is Holly kalbarri
Beautiful, beautiful attributes 99 attributes of God have given him this is not 99 gods. These are his qualities.
He's not his quality is not to be taken out of him. And he says, Now this is Ramadan. This is Rahim god, this is
Salaam, God this is produce god this is no, no, God is ramen and he is Rahim, Malika Anissa, salaam, his moon, all these qualities, he is not these different persons.
These are his attributes 99.
But among these 99 attributes, there is an amazing thing in this list, that Father is not one of them.
This is a miracle
that this man, Muhammad, an electric man in the desert who didn't know how to read or write.
He goes, we know this is given to him by inspiration. But man,
the outside is they say Muhammad wrote the book. I said all right, he wrote the book, for example, I agree. So read the book. So I said he invented 99 attributes. If he wrote it, he invented them.
He invented 99 attributes he invented? He said yes, I said now you with all your professorship. You got a new professor. Come on. You give me some attributes of God.
Give me attributes of God. Oh, he is the father in heaven as he is loving as his kindness. Yes is justice. Yes. Come on, come on.
He's always said yes, is omnipotent. Come on, come on. You can go, you know that. the cleverest of you can go
with all your cleverness. Come on, give me in vendor. This man in the desert. He invented the internet with the crowning glory Allah.
But as you know in your list of the best or half a list the five
That would be foremost in that happiness you know that
is always dangling before you in heaven the Father in heaven. God is love, God is love, God is love is is being dangled before you. So you repeat that is the Father in Heaven is loving this yeah
amazing. This word father is being dangled before him for 23 years and he went he never bites it.
consciously or unconsciously, he never takes it. Why
is America for 23 years, that word Father, Father, Father, Father, in their in his hearing about God, the Father, he never takes, and he goes on creating millions,
as if removal from fishes.
You believe that he was getting them from fishing, all these attributes 99 and he counted with the word Allah is a beautiful necklace of pearls 99 with the crowning pendant of law, but father is not one of them. And Father is easier in Arabic, then rub up means father and rub means Lord cherishes. sustainer evolve his again and again.
Rob Bellamy all praises butala with Rob, is Rob alameen He's the law cherishes sustainer evolver of the worlds he's done Abdul alameen up is easier than
is as true. Why? Because people have a certain misunderstanding the word it by itself is beautiful. But it has now created a connotation.
Jesus is the only begotten Son, because not me. So he's the father who be God Jesus.
Allah does not begin.
He does not yet and if not.
There's nothing I can pray. Anything you think or imagine is not him.
So it is the same religion.
The teaching of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, where new variations creep in. It is the duty of the man of God to play clear, your thoughts, your understandings, your concept of God, God is one. He is indivisible is the one and only in Judaism, the teaching of Moses teaching of Jesus teaching of Muhammad,
there is no Trinity in the teachings. This is again, creation of man. But we will not go into all this, I would like to give you since this is the first talk, I don't really
know what what thing, what aspirations you have, what do you want to really know for me, tomorrow night, there is another talk on Christ in Islam here. And the night after tomorrow, there is one on Muhammad,
the prophet of Islam as foretold in the Bible.
But there might be a lot of other things that you might want to know. And it might also give an idea that tomorrow night, whether I can fit that in, or I can give you solutions to your problems now. And I would like to leave this meeting open for that purpose, instead of carrying on, you know, endlessly keeping you here for an hour or two. I think rather than that, I give you the opportunity of asking questions on what I've dealt with, or if anything else besides, if it will be covered tomorrow, then I'll tell you, so what if I can help you now? I will help you now.
With your questions. So with these words, Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, I'm very, very grateful for this community in Geneva for creating this opportunity for me to share with you my thoughts on the subject,
Christianity and Islam or other, as I said, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
And I'm sure all of us have enjoyed
outspoken sincerity everywhere, rather than just said, now's the time for questions and answers. I would request you to have one question at a time, by one person at a time.
It's always a question of building itself between the Christian and the Muslims and Islam that we say always that Islam is the whole system of life. And the Christianity the Christian, they said, well, also our we have our 10 commandments, and it's also a system of life. So I would like very much a bottom study that explain us the difference between the Islamic system and the Christianity system. Thank you.
As I was saying, you see there is a relationship there is a continuity, a continuation of in the teachings, there is a relationship between the teaching of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. One is a complement to the other, a completion of the other, seeing the time of Jesus Christ.
He came to prescribe for the sickness of the Jews. But in the process, this mighty messenger of God, as soon as he opened his mouth,
you know, he estranged his people, his people were not happy with his preaching.
And he was on the run. So to say, every time he opened his mouth, a Jew somehow wanted to pick up stones to stone him, and he's running here and a man who is on the run, he has not got the opportunity to give you the whole gamut of religion, to give you all the solutions for your problems. So he did say,
before he parted in the Gospel of St. JOHN, in the Bible, he says, I have yet many things to say unto you. But he can upgrade them now. Meaning you haven't got the capacity.
He's got the knowledge God has given him that can cater for mankind's needs till Doomsday.
But the people to whom he was addressing, they will not fit to receive it. So he said, How beat when he The Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you in
the somebody coming after him, whom he describes as the Spirit of Truth. So when he is come, He will guide you all through.
For he shall not speak from himself, but what shall hear that shall he speak, and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come, he shall glorify Me. Now we see here it is, he's telling you that somebody else is to come after him to guide mankind into all within solve all the problems, solution to all the problems. And we say that that spirit of truth is Muhammad
Sallallahu sallam, and that we'll be dealing with that in detail in the third lecture.
Okay, bear with me today, that will be part of the third lecture. Yes, yes.
In your lecture, there was one particular point which
on which I want to make a question or a clarification about and that is that you mentioned that Islam is the culmination of the Semitic religions. As a Muslim, I always understood that Islam is a combination of all religions, whether the Semitic or other religions, because in the Holy Quran itself or your monumental openvino concept is this that the end that all the religions, they evolve eventually into Islam? How could you kindly sort of clarify this point? And
the question was, if it's not properly taken in by the
by the recorded there, the question was that I had said that Islam is the culmination of the teachings of Moses and Jesus.
Whereas we believe me, Muslims, that Islam is the culmination of all religions.
But not since we were dealing with these three, I said, Look, the world can be divided safely into two major groups of religions, Aryan and semiotic. And we left it in one side has a here is a relationship, you know, even a genetic relationship, through ancestry, Father, Abraham, we all going back to father Abraham. And as such, now there is a very close relationship, in the belief in Prophethood, in the belief of holy scriptures, all these things, we are so close. So in that relationship, our feeling that his time is the culmination of these bad, as you quoted, rightly, the Quran says, I'll admit
that this day, I have perfected for you your religion, but mom to Allah, and I've completed my favorites and to you were a little communist Lama, Dina, and that Islam should be your religion. It is a culmination of all faiths, all ages, but since we're dealing with those three, I use it in that sense.
I'm not sure what you said about the law, one line per line, to spoke to.
In Islam, it's so crazy. And we do not have
to know is that right? That if you want to live in the modern life, we will have education. We have to have
coffee in the head to be occupied to finish the prison. For example,
The future you want to say it's better? If you've got
a partner, the man that the woman has adopted? How are you going to do something which would be equal?
You see, what I was telling you was the law as given by God through Moses, was an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Was that from God? The Christian say, Yes. Did you say yes, God gave such a law.
And the adults and the adults must be stoned to death?
Where is it is in the Bible? In the book of Leviticus?
If you are a Jew
should have it in stone. But
if I read correctly, I think it is not possible to give these segments to anyone, any president is now much
more credit than me, because that match with that woman should be saved at the time of committing adultery by four person, Which part?
And I don't know. It's another question. And from that
time, we'll finish and give everybody a chance. And you can come back to your other questions. Yes. You see, I think you are jumping the gun.
Look, we were talking about this was the law.
Now, forever three, for example, I said, the Old Testament, which the Jews and the Christians accept as the Word of God. In it, they are told that the adulterer and the adulterous must be stoned to death.
So if you are a Jew, as
if you are a Christian, is that that's your book.
I mean, just giving you an idea.
Now, with regards to adultery in Islam,
that law is there that you need four witnesses.
And if four persons testified that they saw the men and the woman committing adultery, and in their evidence, if they contradict one another,
they will all get 80 lashes each.
Right? So we would like to see which guy is prepared to come forward, even if he's seen it to say, look, I saw and the man and the woman was so present, that four people can come along and watch you doing what you are doing like dogs and pigs, and you allow them to see you in a place. You want to go and do things like that, then you deserve what is gonna come to you.
But the law is so strict. How many people are stoned to death or punished for this? How long? I can imagine. I think except for one in the early days of Islam for 1400 years, I can't imagine another man and I won't be stoned to death for adultery. Because it's so strict is right for witnesses. And the witnesses Miss telling that evidence.
And if they don't tell you, they get 80 lashes you don't just get off scot free. So you know what you mismatching the character of the woman and the man. You deserve 80 lashes and if you get 80 lashes and your brother gets he lashes? I like to see anybody else coming forward even if he has seen it to say look I saw
The chairman has the chairman had said one question at a time a person you might not have heard it.
No, you will stand by principles of principles. Give somebody else a chance. And somebody else is it that we come back to you, you will have your chance. Yes, so.
So you also had a chance to
have a breather, you'll have a time to think also. This was the next one.
A lot of people would like to ask some verification
it comes to be the Jesus Christ since Christ as we know
that he was a Jew and he was brought up indicated by a Jewish family and he was in essence he was a Jewish man.
And since nobody knows anything,
of the Christian
Jesus Christ, how does the idea of salvation relates the Christian idea of salvation.
Which is connected directly to the crucifixion of Christ? How does it relate to the Jewish idea of separation and to the Muslim idea of separation? How do they
You see the Jewish and the Christian, Jewish and the Muslim idea
about coming right with God is believe in God and do good deeds. You have to pay for your sin. Anybody, everybody, you pay for your own sins, nobody pays for you. You take that bitter medicine yourself, if you're sick, you take the medicine, you got a rotten appendix, you'll be operated, not somebody else, because this is
this is the law of God for all eternity.
And it doesn't change. The Law of God doesn't change, that you are personally responsible for your action.
In the Old Testament, in the book of Ezekiel, God speaks, it says, the soul that sinneth it shall die.
Anybody who commits a crime sins, He shall perish. Like this, we all die, but meaning spiritually, he will be cut off, the one had sins, the soul that sin, He shall die, the son shall not be the iniquity of the Father, Son means we are the children. Father, Adam, he committed a mistake. And we his children are not responsible for what happened to him what he did, he pays for his you pay for yours, the son shall not be the iniquity of the Father, neither shall the father be the iniquity of the Son, iniquity of the Son, whatever his children are doing today, sons of Adam, like last June 300,000, sodomites, they gathered in San Francisco on a pilgrimage lender, 50, lesbians and
know what I have to say from that. See, neither shall the father with
the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, meaning whatever the good thing the good man does he bookcases through divorce, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Whatever the evil man does, he will have to pay the price. But if the wicked, this is the way of salvation, but if the wicked will turn for all the sins that he has committed means retain, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall, surely he shall not die. That is admission in Judaism, that is salvation in Islam, and also in the teachings of Christ. But if the followers they choose an easy way, that is,
it is not the teaching of Christ, Jesus Christ is very, very I say unto you, most certainly, I'm telling you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees, you shall by no means enter the kingdom of heaven, there is no heaven for you, unless you are better than the Jews. And I'm asking how can you be better than the Jews by not keeping the commandments?
The commandments, believe in God and do good deeds. James is a faith without action is dead.
What is the proof of your faith that you believe your actions? How can you believe your actions like this, you can play anything I can say anything you can say? What is the action without action is dead. But there are people mission speeches like Jimmy Stryker, this manager is
supposed to do. I had invaded
more than 30 books
like this, the editor of the Jesus only doctrine, Roman Catholicism, the preacher, pornography, Sodom and Gomorrah, Sodom and Gomorrah, he says, homosexuality, alcohol, he's written more than 30 books. Now he says, that you don't have to do would be
to Christ paid the price. And there are a lot of preachers, not the public. You don't have to do anything. To get them. You just be the solution.
Because he says if you have to eat with a belief, he says that sacrifice was you pay the full price.
Now we will do since I'm going to finish it today. I'm going to fast and abstain from dancing and drinking that will not save you. What is going to save you is that you believe that I have recently paid the full price. You don't have to do anything but this is good work will come accept they will come back services. When he tries he said there are 11 million drum costs. They call them problem features in na 11 b
they cause a problem they will call them TriHex
This is a problem. And he says, There are 50 44 million immigrants in America. And he said, I make no distinction between the two to me they understand that in 55 million hours, according to genius writer 55
Where is this? This beautiful flowers?
Then it talks about the creatures that people are preaching. They themselves the preacher, teacher, he talks about the preachers. He's a preacher himself, but he's talking about other features.
He says, you know, the creatures is added to the bank, some business, on some business to the manager, maybe you want an overdraft.
So the manager is knowing he's a preacher. He says, you know, who are the worst face?
He says, No, he says three Bs TTP
preachers, painters and prostitutes. They are the first phase. The preacher,
Chris and Lucia will be able to buy
three Ps bPb, you haven't been in Arabic, he was a BBB.
painted and positive. So sad, sad, sad, sad. Sad. I don't know about the painters and the prostitutes. But I do know about the preachers, that it is true. So what is this
is this look is not changing your life. You got to act, your actions will prove your faith. This is just talking, you know, we are living in a single entity I see no more.
He said the spirit permitted me. I got the spirit.
There's no way empty spaces is no spirit. But every molecule of it fills up such as there's no place with another.
He said no, there's no place for the devil. So you can be tempted.
He says no.
See, if the spirit is no bid for the devil and
this is no greater than your all God, Jesus.
You know, Jesus was tempted by the devil.
This is taking a high mountain
devotion to muscle he was tempted by a tailor, and you can be tempted to call congratulations.
The spirit is not in you.
in Islam in Judaism
has to prove your faith by
a fella by the name can teach you today. I just wanted to correct your second question. First of all, there were 6 million Jews that died in World War Two. And they died because they didn't want to believe that they were being prosecuted by their own kind, prosecuting me by their own nationality. When turning 40 to 37, after he came to power in 3433, he started dispatch is something eliminated the Jews but the Jews did not want to believe that their home kind were eliminated and therefore they die because of that. That that's the fact and they want to correct that it's not a possibility, but it's a fact. The second point I want to ask is that interest is adopted by Jewish friends.
when the Jewish Jewish faith considered father when it comes to the Moses, his father is speaking of Moses the guidance. And I think it is also for the Prophet Muhammad, Muhammad. Many people look up to Muhammad as a father to God as the ultimate. Muhammad is Director, the individual as Moses directs the tribe. They Israeli, the use of tribes. And I want to my point is
that the difference between the father as a Father
and the Father God, and then there's another father, there's two types you can the Father, the mother, father, who will leave the individual, the child
or leave the individual that needs guidance. And I think that should be clarified. I'm sorry, I don't think
is I respect your program and I think you're an excellent lecture because I want you to clarify that point. On father
is, I don't know.
This, you see people calling.
For the moment, I didn't hear anybody.
didn't hear in my mind, anybody but in my father in the sense that you know, he showed us the way and all that, but it's not being used we say the law is the messenger of God.
Blah, blah, all that might not be about you know,
I don't I haven't heard it.
The Jewish religion, the Jewish religion, the way you criticize the term father, which I don't accept, that likes to clarify like the Jewish terminology, or the terminology of what father means because in my terminology, what I've grown up and started follow me for me father as a guidance father doesn't normally mean the father gave me by god father also means an individual guidance or direction, but
this is since this term has created certain mystery.
It has created certain which is creating ideas in people's minds that God Almighty physically got Jesus, Jesus is the only begotten Son.
So his beginnings and
it will also deliver as a function of sex. Now,
you see the term maybe you didn't mean that, but the the video using the term now is create so many people in the fact
that they can, literally so to save you from falling into the pit in
like this word. I was talking about those stalagmites in San Francisco. Did you remember this? You call them gay?
gentle lords and ladies day on the mountain. The day
2025 or 30 and reading the newspapers talking about Jay.
ladies again, gentlemen again.
Very happy enjoy.
So not this beautiful room.
So I can't call you anymore.
What do you mean?
You see the beautiful words simple words good words as in October the prosecutors once done that.
Yesterday, there are so many other words you know what the other meanings secondary meanings and it becomes obnoxious. You throw them away in the origin.
companion, you use that in America.
Look at the dictionary
by the CFO question. So why?
So there's nothing wrong with the world. I said there's nothing wrong with the world.
But not quite at the permutations.
That this is how now your mind is helping you substance Stop it. Don't use that word football.
into two goes with
across with cold and Muslim. Then can I do
some of the G's, which one? And we'll maybe call loosely.
I think what you have
To say that what makes a man James shall
we say, you have to believe that there is
which means literally, that there is, there is no other object of worship, but Allah and Muhammad is His message. So if you believe
this messenger explains to you what Allah is like, that is not like a man is not like a monkey is not like an elephant is not like a snake is not being done is not when one is there's no multiplicity is not is not a human pattern or any other patterns. He keeps you what, so whatever he tells you.
He says, Don't drink alcohol.
He says what I mean toxic is in greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantities. Whatever he tells you to do, you believe that there is God and
so whatever he tells you is from Bob,
he tells you to pray, pray,
So whatever he tells you, you believe in God, and you believe that Muhammad is His Messenger,
whatever he told you, in the book, you said, except you're not the most
you can drink is
that company, you know, I can't seem to let go and calculate for me yesterday was
this nonsense, you know, what, what does God is worried about?
If the pain
normal, you pray five times a day, and you
will actually extend the time detail just
struggling to be defeated. That slump is not a starting point. That is the continuation of the city, the teaching of Islam from the very beginning, and karate is the completion of the questions
that should have explained and the interesting part about this was explained, for example,
bunch Now, a lot of questions
how to start, how to apply the question of the bar, and in the bottom, why don't want to have
unfortunately, I don't want to understand the economy. I don't want to understand that restriction. And I don't want to evolve this just to know the revelation and the guidance.
unfortunately, which I appreciate the
guidance, but this is not a question of my personal
lot of them.
a lot of problems
around political systems and unfortunately, so escapes soldiers, and I can identify it in such a nonsense way The clock is for cutting the hands for the audit report export, I will finish by the stones
that must be
displayed the oldest logs in the particular context in the previous under these conditions, he would ask that he is supposed to be punished to participants. So that is not explained one Center and the most difficult task, which is not propagated and is not taken initially, as compared with a lot of for example, everybody knows
not to eat meat or things like that. The important thing for example, to know how to apply the nozzle
is standing in the
comments. One thing secondly, not to tell, for example, the difficult cost of our
have stated that
I'm interested to know that very simple question for the people to understand in the modern concept,
economic and social political dysfunction of the system.
That can be something practical otherwise, just to enjoy
it, you say your problem at the moment is not that somebody stole your white handbag, and you want to have a head shop, it doesn't apply. It doesn't apply. You don't need
to waste everybody's time discussing hypothetically, there is no standard government here that there is not a government that has a jurisprudence people who study the law and under what circumstances what will be applied is not that you know, somebody feels your pain, and it's a chop of his hand, somebody who does his job is it doesn't work like that. There are jurisprudence, they will sit down the government is the Government of Pakistan is acting upon a file to do this prudence is acted upon in Iran.
asking me about jurisprudence. I am a an expert in comparative religion.
You asked the questions within that, then you're honoring me, and you will get the maximum amount of money. You're gonna ask for all these things. Now, this is what the Jews were doing to the giant Jesus Christ. And asking questions can be tricky practice.
What is your problem? You asked me? The question was asking you why
don't you ask me the equipment? I don't know the answer that. How would you answer that? Islam teachers?
Tell me that, what is your problem? This is not your problem about talking people's hands? How many people you've seen
in your life? If you've seen a single Muslim with his head chopped off or steam? Have you seen one? I don't, I'm 17 years old.
This is a problem.
establish yourself in Geneva.
I would like you to elaborate on
that is not the subject about the second coming of Christ. I said in his second country,
if you had the chance to ask him in the context of what?
Jesus because only then you can ask him to label the other side. So when he comes along, he's come along and looking for these people. So you can ask him what church you belong to said, What's your What?
So if he told you Christianity, then you ask him, you asked him, I will ask him the ritual because
that is hypothetical. In other words, it is nonsense.
That you will ask this man of God, what is your religion? Because he can't see it and use a scientific
prove that not about the Second Coming in what he's going to do and how you do that are not a part of
this in my head.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's, she's got a question.
I see that you choose to explain. Or, as you said, your professor, and I do admire this and I didn't get it. You don't want to go to the detail to say 52.
If we do get the prostitutions. And assuming that, is that right or wrong, you don't want to enter in this subject. But very simply want to ask you one question on behalf of my wife. And this is something she's face. And she was a bit annoyed that you were attacking Western people that no white man has ever invited me for a tea. Could you please explain me of this political asylum that they give us to Iranians to countries to Jewish I don't know what are these Americans with British
That you said they were helping. They were acting like Nazis that I don't think it is. I mean, you know much more than me. But what are the British they have a Jewish and you're saying they acted the same? So I don't want to
answer that question that now it is not only the Muslim world that there are the best, but my wife has been Muslim. She says she has converted chickens to at the end of this conversation, please do Excuse me, I don't want to put you on the edge. And she wants to shake hands with us we can do that.
advanced language language, what I was trying to demonstrate Walker.
See, what I was trying to demonstrate was that in my country, we are all color conscious. Why the laws I can say that you switchblade is a color conscious person, or this one. All the Europeans are like that in my country, because the laws are based on color. Everybody, including myself, if you remember.
sickness is universal if we are cultivating the sickness.
So no matter how good you are, how simply you Are you also get contaminated. If not 100% 5%, you still have that sickness, because everybody's thinking in terms of
our content. Continue to say that there are no good people among the whites. They don't give you refuse to the Europeans to the South Africans, they're running away from there. And you give them refugee a refugee in Britain. No, fantastic people in South Africa. Also there are many good people. But I said as a whole Now, everybody is DD terms of color. And I didn't say that everybody is sick in Geneva, I can say that.
I suppose languages like that, you know, we're trying to say something and somebody.
By the way, I was thinking that the children might introduce this.
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