Preservation Of the Quran Revisited

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my back? My dearest back brothers or sisters with a great honor today we're going to be talking about a very important topic and and we have a very special guest that is

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and he might not know so much about this but he's very close to my heart.

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She had done budget analysis, the word him and elevates the status, Shadow budget they have done a great amount of power helping out the IRA and he has had the many debates for those who have seen him Mashallah have have a huge lot of developers with the James White and other debaters and malice hottel elevates that is one of his DNA he has dedicated his life for him to spread the DNA of Islam mela metallics except from within italic Today's my dear brother sister topic is very, very sensitive topic and unfortunately, not a whole lot of Muslims would know about which is the seven letters of the Quran. So we're gonna we're gonna jump into deep into this subject with the knife

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Allah. But let's take a quick commercial but then and then after that we will go back and start with Chef.

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If you asked any Muslim, they would know that Allah subhanho wa Taala has said and upon internationalism, the decra

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have revealed the Quran to us which is Vicar and that's what the word means in this in this in this verse, Allah subhanaw taala he promised the preservative yet any there are many Muslims nowadays then they're foreign to the idea of that the existence seven letters and then when someone shows them that like okay, that is that exists, the current existence and maybe several forms of presentation is a form foreign to them. The question that I wanted to ask you, and maybe this is something that we could start out subject is what is considered the Quran.

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Okay, Rahim al hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. about Dr. Marwan, thank you so much for inviting me, I am honored to be on your program. And this is a very important topic, it is an honor for myself to be able to serve this particular question

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to my limited ability, but I will do my best inshallah, to answer this question.

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What is the Quran? That's a very, very good question and our Allah our scholars have clarified as to what the Quran is, in fact, the prophet clarified with the Quran and the companions of the Prophet, his direct disciples knew what the Quran is. And then this knowledge was transferred later on to later generations. So the Quran, to put it in simple terms is the word of Allah, that was revealed upon the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he transferred to the companions of his, and then they later on transferred, this particular revelation, written down in the Arabic language to posterity. So I will repeat, the Quran is the word of Allah revealed to Prophet Muhammad transferred

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to the disciples of Prophet Mohammed through the prophet himself. And then these disciples wrote down the Quran, in his totality, okay. And then they transferred, its reading as well as writing. So the Quran was transferred to the future generations in a in a written form as well as in a read form, in a in a in a verbal in an oral form. So there were two of the Quran that were transferred from the prophet to the disciples and then to later generations. Beautiful. So the thing is, and again,

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this is something extremely, extremely important because there is a

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Now, many people try to add or subtract out of this definition approximately. And to them as they like for instance, they you know, within this definition, it's the karate right. Yes, as I said the readings, the Quran was transferred in two forms the written form the russom, what we call the russom. Again, written form is called the russom. And the red form or the oral form is called the carrot. Okay, readings, the readings of that very russom. So, the reading of the written text is called the carrot or the Kara. Okay, literally to read the word Akira comes from the Arabic root word Cora, which means to read, okay. So, the reading of the text is basically how to pronounce the

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words Okay, it is a new, it is not a new thing, it is not a separate thing. It is actually reading the text which has been written down on paper or on parchment or on leather. The earliest copies of the Quran are not on paper, they are on vellum on parchment, parchment will basically skin

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that was found between the meat and and the leather of the animal. So the skin, which was white in color was dried and pages were made out of it. And then ancient documents were written on these particular vellum parchment. So the earliest copies of the Quran that come from the time of the Sahaba were written on the substance and we have those copies with us today in the world in global libraries. Beautiful. So the thing is, when when when one question that might come in mind is why the Quran was revealed in several forms. Is that a wisdom behind these things?

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Yes, okay. So so you have now gone to completely another topic, the early form of the Quran when it was revealed. So the Prophet Muhammad in an authentic report, which has been narrated by Imam Bukhari, from a number of multiple sources, in other words, the report cannot be doubted, okay, even more than academics do not doubt this report, its veracity. The Prophet said the Quran was revealed upon me in seven modes. Okay, the word in the Arabic language is Afro. Okay. Okay, I hope has been loosely translated into the English language as modes. Okay. So the Quran was revealed upon me in seven modes, read whichever is easier for you. The Prophet said read, whichever is easier for you.

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So now, what are these modes? Is the question. Okay. There are many opinions of the scholars of Islam as to the the reality of these models, okay. And the most

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I can say supported evidence, or the most supported view is that these were dialect variations of the Arabs, right, the era of Quraysh. They spoke the Arabic language in a specific way. The Arab acid, for example, and other tribes spoke the Arabic language in a slightly different way. Okay, the Arabs have been hanifa from the land of knowledge, let's say they spoke the Arabic language by the way, they spoke the same language, but they pronounce it they spoke it in slightly different ways,

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pronouncing different words in different ways, basically, right. Also the Arabs of lesses, Southern Arabia, now Yemen, okay, they spoke the same language in slightly different ways. So to accommodate all these dialects, the Quran was revealed in seven different modes. So the Arabs can actually read the Quran in the

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modes or the mode of the choice which is closed today language, which is close to that dialect. So this was the wisdom behind this particular way of Revelation. Okay, because this is cleared in, in a report from the Prophet sallallahu wasallam.

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When Darius came to the province of asylum, he gave the Quran to the prophet in the mode of Quraysh, the language of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and the Prophet said, My people will not be able to read it, okay, because he knew the rigidity of the Arabs, okay. They were very, very tribal people, they were tribe centric, okay, they would not easily accept a language of poetry or a literature coming from another tribe, which is going to supersede all the literature. Okay. So, superiority of literature would mean the superiority of the tribe, it would be very difficult for the Arabs to accept that sense of superiority of the kurush Okay, even within the crush

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This sense of superiority was there, okay when a Prophet came from, let's say,

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but what manuf for example, the sub tribe, you see the crane was the umbrella tribe. And under this umbrella tribe with many different branches, let's say boo boo, boo, boo, De Bruyne off the branch the Prophet came from. So when the puppet came from

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the other branches, they had a problem with that, because they would have to not accept the superiority of baranof Ohashi for that matter. Okay, so bundle ID and manomav zoom. For example, Abuja

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Ammerman a sham was zoom. So here the problem with this idea. So when the problem into the city of five to teach Islam or preach Islam to them, they were from Bonita Keefe, another major tribe. So they said, Why do we have to accept a profit from Quraysh we don't have to accept a profit or profit has to come from us. So the public knew his people. He knew his people, they were very rigid in their tribalism. So he told you, Brazil, that Allah knows and tell a lot that my people will not be able to do it. So the bride brought her on in two different modes for the accommodation of the language.

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So the Prophet said, No, even this is not enough. So eventually, Darius brought seven different modes to accommodate all major dialects of the Arabic language. So the Arabs can conveniently read the Quran, in their own styles in their own dialects. Okay.

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This is indeed true, because thing is even nowadays, like if you, if I wanted to teach someone is a book, like in the, in the British dialect is gonna be difficult for you for for an American to understand it or somebody from Austria or it's gonna be something even even when I was in high school, for someone to, to learn like the Shakespearean language, it's difficult. So it's, I mean, this is part of the Divine Wisdom philosophy

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in which that he made this, he revealed this dialect to us in order for us to understand it.

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So

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this language changes within London.

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In London, if you go west London to East London, the language it changes slightly. Yeah.

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Ages. And if you go to London, you know, the language actually changes slightly. We, we the Londoners, we know when people speak the language, we know what part of London they come from.

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And so panela something here, like even even a New Yorker would have a different dialect from somebody who from the south, this is him and people and people recognize these things upon Allah

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subhanaw taala and again, this shows nothing but the wisdom of Allah subhanaw taala he wanted to make it easy for us. Yeah, now we have like, there is a report by that happened at the time of and it happened between a number of the Allahu anhu when he was when he heard someone reciting sort of for fun. And then and it was it

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was a tough man. He grabbed this man and he brought up the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu

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asked him to read they want to read and this habit with no drama have

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in the habit, Sheila Allah said it

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was revealed in seven minutes or so read from it, whatever make it easy for you. So the question, but the question he has done is that in these are of that, that Allah subhanaw taala have revealed to the to make it easy for the tribes that are living in Arabia, later on develop to become a crop and now we have almost 10 o'clock. Could you just

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briefly show us how like, what is the difference between a car and a half? Okay, the garage basically accommodated the roof. Okay, so some of those Arabic dialect differences were later on accommodated into the carrot. So when a particular reading of the Quran is being read, based upon what is written down on the parchment, or on paper, okay?

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The same verse might be read in a slightly different way, in a slightly different way. The verse is exactly the same. Okay? There are places where the words might differ. There are places for example, very few places very, very few places where words might differ. But those words actually originate from the earth and they were revealed by Allah as confirmed by the prophet sallallahu wasallam. How do I know that? Let's talk about it. This example you gave from the Hadees of Omar and his Sham, two companions, a sham was reading surah Furqan. Okay. And Omar heard the surah. And he read

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analyzed, how does he know that he's reading the Quran? Is the first question How does he know he's reading the Quran? He recognized the content. Allah recognized the content. And he knew which part of the Quran is a sham reading.

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Okay, so Omar grabbed him that hold on this chapter of the Quran I learned directly from the province of Islam, you are reading it slightly differently. How does Omar know what he's reading a bit chapter because of the content so he recognizes the content, but he is pronouncing it differently. Shannon is pronouncing the same content differently. So he took him so the prophets of Salaam asked him.

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I taught him like

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likewise,

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Omar was asked to read Omar read and the Prophet said I taught this. So then the Prophet explained that the Quran has been revealed in seven different different in the sense pronounciation pronouncing delivering the words Okay, not the content, the content is exactly the same. Okay. So read from whichever one is easy for you. Okay, so the Prophet clarified so olalia right. So, in this, we see that the content is exactly the same later on. When I have for example, were narrowed down to the heart of Christ by a man in Bukhari and Sahih al Bukhari does a report when new Muslims from different regions, they started to read the same Koran in slightly different ways and started

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to pronounce it differently, because they were not Arabs. And they did not appreciate the differences the Arabs have in the language. These were Iraqis and Egyptians

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fighting in the land of Azerbaijan, which is an alien land, right? So they were fighting there. And when they read the Quran, it was slightly different in pronunciation in delivery. So they started to tell each other your Quran is wrong, our Quran is correct, your Quran is wrong. So what they found in Yemen, who was an Arab, who knew the language, he understood

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the meaning of Arab, he came back to a man. He said, Now is the time to unite all the people, all the Muslims, new Muslims, and all Muslims, the Arab Muslims or non Arab Muslims, on one standard reading of the Quran, so that they don't have to differ like the Jews and Christians different about the Scripture. Okay. So, as the man with the Alon, he commanded he appointed a committee of four people who standardized the Quran, in the dialect of Quraysh, the language of the Prophet salallahu Salam why he did this, because now Islam is established. The Arabs understand clearly that this is the Quran, this is the word of Allah. And they wouldn't have a problem with reading the the dialect

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the dialect of Croatia, they wouldn't have a problem with that. Why previously, when they were not yet fully Muslim, or there was still new Muslims, they would have a problem with that. They were tribalistic. But now Islam has been established. Okay. Islam is now almost, it's been around for nearly 30 years. Okay? So people understand. So that's why he commanded these four people, okay, to put down the Koran, in the Qureshi dialect. And wherever you differ with the scribe, the scribe was they've been tarbet. They've been tarbet was the man with learned the entire Quran directly from the prophet

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in the order we have it today.

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Even in the last year of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, so the last year when the Prophet was going to part from this world sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Zayed bin sabot spent time with him reading the entire Koran. So they'd been Zaid was chosen to write the Quran. So if man commanded the other three who are Qureshi, the other three who are Qureshi, Zaid bin tarbet was the only one who was not Qureshi. So of mine said if you differ with Zed, then put it down in the language of Quraysh. So it was about the same content written in a particular dialect. Okay. In particular spellings and even the Spelling's were standardized by this committee of the Sahaba under the direct supervision of a

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man been a fan of the alarm. I hope that

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this is this is beautiful, because I want people to understand this aspect, but this is a question for myself. Now, if you didn't forgive me, now, now, this, this how to that was standardized by by basically North nobody alone.

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Could it could this have comprehend several karats

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Yes, this, let's say this half or the dialect of crush, this is what accommodated whatever came from the truth. Okay, whatever from whatever part of the truth could not be accommodated. In the Qureshi dialect. It was left as it is okay? And it was read into the karate through the karate. So the same verse is being read through the karate, and this is why we have slight differences in the karate, you know when you read the Quran, let's say a classic example between the verse reading of the Quran and the half reading of the Quran. Okay. Now when people hear this two readings of the Quran, people start to get this idea that are two different currents. No, it is the same Quran being read slightly

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differently. For example, we read in house al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil aalameen. I will be like Mr. bungle rajim Bismillah Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil aalameen Ar Rahman Al Rahim, Maliki Ahmed the when we come to wash, okay, we read Maliki as Maliki Yama, Dean. Okay, these are two different words. Malik is owner Malik is king. But the meaning is exactly the same. But both words were revealed by Allah through the roof. We believe both of them are revealed by Allah through the roof. So both were read by the prophet and by the Arabs. And now you have the choice to read both. You can both have been accommodated in karate one in house, one in wash. That's it. This is how simple it

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is. I think many people I think they don't understand the wisdom behind all of this because Subhanallah I mean, yes, yes. Even though it's being read into different words, you know, but yet Allah tala tala is as if Allah Subhana Allah has given us two different meanings, he is the king, and he is the owner to do so. So so there is no contradictions between the Quran. And when this when this happened to anyone who someone reads the letter. And, and and these two, these two words were deliberately revealed by Allah, okay to give the comprehensive meaning. Okay. But he's, he's, he's the owner as well as the King. He's the king as well as the owner. Right. And, and this was to

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accommodate two different expressions in the Arabic language for the Arabs. Simple as that. And the Quran, which is the same text is read in both ways. And this is how it was transferred to us. And this is one of the ways God Allah is telling us how powerfully how delicately the book is preserved, that even the pronounciation, let alone the written word of God, let alone the written word of God, even how to read it is preserved. So even the slightest differences in reading have been preserved. I don't think people have any argument against us and this is out of the mercy of Allah subhanaw taala when it comes to the preservation of reciting it, and I think we are 100 honorable, I mean, as

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you mentioned, and also all the Muslims would know that the Quran had been memorized by millions of people. And absolutely, and many of the people have memorized it and older, and there's a continuous chain of relations between us with whom Allah and prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Now, when it comes to the scripture here, and this is something that I want you and I want, if you could have, if you could show us or enlightening us, how do you any show how the script was preserved as far as the karate movement? First, you said that Yanni that, that in the Coronavirus, man could comprehensive karate, there is some narration that says that even the civil code as that of Mad Men

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have sent all of them could have included all of the other khorat is that is that is that true or have you heard of anything of that sort? I know what you are talking about you you're conflating the Rossum with the carrot. Yes, yes, the Rossum? The Rossum protects the carrot and the carrot protect the Rossum beautifully are both parallel traditions. Okay preserved by a lot through human endeavor. No doubt Allah used human beings primarily the companions of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam to write down the Quran in specific Spelling's today. If I wanted to transliterate the Quran into let's say Spanish or into another dialect or into another way of writing. It is haram for me to do it. The

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Quran can only be written in the Arabic language, as it was written by the disciples of Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam I repeat, the Koran can only be

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Written in the Arabic language as it was written by

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the companions of the Prophet. Now languages evolve okay spellings change for example in the Arabic language sorry in the English language we write cover, okay. In the British way we write cover with CO v o u r in the American way it is c o v o r, right. So, there is a slight difference in writing the same word, but with the Quran as far as the Arabic language might have evolved from its ancient form from its classical form. The Quran as we write it today has to be written in exactly the same Spelling's that were standardized by a man and his committee and all the Muslims around the world they accepted that standardization right. So that it is preserved. It is preserved from the earliest

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sources, who are the earliest sources of the Quran, the companions,

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the disciples of Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam it is them, who gave us the Quran, we have never met the Prophet sallallahu sallam, but it were the companions, many of them who took the Quran directly from the Prophet, and then they standardized the text for us to read it today. Likewise the carrot, okay, the reading of that text that was Moloch recension. Okay. Now, some of the some of the variations are to be found in the,

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in the regime of man as well. So when, for example, certain variations came in words, okay, when they were writing down the Koran. So, what they did describe the rate they wrote both they wrote one word in one copy, and they wrote the other words, for example, I give you the example of Malik and Malik, okay, in one copy, they will write Malik in the other copy, they will write Malik. So, both revelations have been accommodated in the written form also, right. Likewise, the carrot are limited by what has been written down by the committee of man. Okay. And Western academics, not Muslims, not our Muslim traditional scholars, they have confirmed, okay, one of them is a recent scholar. He's

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young, and he is a legend in Holland. His name is marine van put him okay. And he's,

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I have had many interactions with him on Twitter as well. He's on Twitter, very active. Marine van Putin confirms that we can trace back the current text of the Quran. This is a non Muslim, in Holland in Laden, who specializes in the Quran in the Quranic manuscripts, okay. He is he has been responding to all these islamophobes online who are trying to raise doubts about the veracity of the

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he has been doing it. Okay. And why would he do it? Why would he do it because he's a scholar, he has studied this subject, and he's telling all the islamophobes and mission, extremist missionaries, and extremist islamophobes and so called ex Muslim, they tell him to shut up. He's telling him to shut up. He's telling them this is my field. Let me talk on this. And he states clearly, that the text of the Quran as we have it today, can be traced back directly directly to what Othman and his committee put down. So the earliest manuscripts of the Quran, from the mid seventh century 650s is when was man when a founder of your lawn is sanctioned, is copies of the Quran 650 See, common error

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650 right. That decade, right? marine has his opinion that all of this text is static, unchanged, all the way back to 650. The time of man been a part of your life, okay, because we cannot fully

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substantiate any claim for a copy to have come from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam in itself. But it is definitely clear that the copies we have today in leather, on parchment from the first century of Islam

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are from the time of the companions of the Prophet and they can be traced back to us today. Okay, and just to give you a treat very quickly, I want to share something with you see if I can find it in sha Allah.

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The Quran was so common as a test that it was put on the coins on the coins in the very first century when the Sahaba were alive. This is a bit hum I have in my hand. Okay, so this is an omega. I hope the camera can focus on it.

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I don't think the camera can

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Clearly focus on it. Okay.

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It is an Omega dyrham

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it has an entire chapter of the Quran on it.

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A class on it here, it reads a lower last a Muslim Yella de la Mula Bandha. hoopoe. And then it has another verse, I'm reading from the coin. Muhammad Rasul Allah, or sell obon Hoda what is Huck Li Hera wala de Nicola. Hello Carrie how much raccoon, again taken from the Quran. Then

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the other side, which is the obverse it's written Bismillah Dora has a Dirham with the marsh sannomiya. So this particular data is from the time of Omar bin Abdulaziz. They're

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put down on the coins in the time of the Malik bin Marwan about 20 years prior to Omar bin Abdulaziz came to power. So when the companions of the Prophet are alive, it was a public text it was read publicly, it was written publicly. So any Christian missionary, any extremist atheist or an ex Muslim, so called to

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cast doubts on the veracity of the Quran. We tell them keep trying, keep going. Good luck. The other thing is like I think many of these people don't understand the fact that when we say para, we're talking about almost 90% of these variations are are are like the skill differences you know, like you know, fat Hamza fat house, but my wishes does not affect that even elongation, even the elongation how how long do you read a particular word for for example, you know, what people don't understand is they think there are 10 different cannot attend entirely different readings of the Quran, like alien to each other. No, absolutely. This is the greatest misconception out there. These

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are the minute just differences in the pronouncing of the words. For example, if I say give me an English word for example, let's say I want to say a window. Let's say I want to say window right. So one word would be window right? Another word would be when dough okay? Right. Then another pronunciation would be when dough Okay, then the process should be when dough, right? I'm saying the same word in four different ways right. And this is a crude example this is to explain how khorat work to some of the difference between differences which again come from the Arabic dialects, how the Arabs pronounce these words when they read them in the prayers Okay, these elongations and

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stopping of the word for example, what we call advanced right, it would be okay. In the Arabic language, we have terminology to describe these variations right? And they are so minute anyone was anyone who wants to read about these variations would be laughing at these people are claiming using the 10 carat as an argument against the Quran, if anything, the 10 carat or an argument in favor of the preservation of the Quran. And this is again confirmed by many Western academics that

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rather than calling into question the veracity of the Quranic text,

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the Quran actually complement the text of the Quran as it was written down in the time of man. So, so So, so I i stated in one of my tweets that the

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the Rossum, the written form of the Quran which was standardized by with man, it protects the cannot okay? And that cannot protect the Rossum, okay, so you cannot add any new words into the written text of the Quran because they will be detected by the Quran. Okay, and you cannot invent a new camera. Okay? Because gorod are protected by the russom. So, rasa and khorat are basically two different sides of the same coin. Basically, they protect each other. That's the Quran, the Quran is Rossum as well as the carrot. I think what and one of the debates that occurred between you and James White, James White, he wanted to, he thought that he finds something in which that he said,

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You know, I noticed that there was an extra lF, and some of the some of the some of the verses. I mean, again, I wanted to make sure that all the people understand here a minute ago, I said 95% of all the differences. And now I'm gonna say an even higher percentage, 99 of the differences in the in the parrot are easily muddled meaning to the location of what you had done as mentioned, okay. And that's a skill in a fact. In a bamaca. That's 99% of the difference. Yeah. Yeah. Let's

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clarify what the scale is what the shape is talking about the scale is who are he? Basically? Okay. dama is Ooh, a Fatah is are the sound I'm talking about the sound. And kassala is he basically. So that's what the shake is talking about. The differences are basically the pronunciation how to, you know, literally deliver the word from your mouth. That is not the text. So what about what about like the what, what's up? What would you respond to someone say, well, there's an extra Elif.

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Okay, how we respond to them is they have to go and read the resume of man, even the resume even within the copies of man that six or five copies that were sent to different centers of the Islamic world. At the time of man, when these copies were standardized, for example, the first copy that when it was written by the Admin tab it it was copied into another five or six copies, right.

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Basically, they were sent to Egypt, they were sent to Yemen, they were sent to Basra, Kufa. Okay.

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And Damascus, basically, right. And these copies were

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sent for the purpose of removing other copies that were imperfect people had written them in their own Spelling's. Now the Spelling's have been standardized. You don't need to use other copies that are non standard, right? So use these these copies as a standard in these copies. I'm sorry, I forgot your question. I be going into this point. I completely missed the question. What was your question? I said as far as like the different letters that what why how do you know in these copies in these copies, certain places, they used Alif instead of Hamza tawassul. In other copies, they would use Hamza tawassul as an interchangeable letter. So in the Arabic language of Of course, we

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can use certain words as alternatives, okay. And this is the flexibility they want you to highlight, you can write Hamza tawassul, or you can write Aleph Okay, you can use far or you can use wa depending on the dialect again, differences in the Arabic speaking right. These differences are these letters used to write the Quran do not denote a different word, that do not denote a different reality Rather, they are the same reality written in slightly in a very slightly different form and written by the main sources, the companions of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam. So what does this show you? The fact that we are even discussing the Elif check Marwan this shows us that the

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veracity of the Quran has been boiled down to discussing olives, and casseroles and damas and Fatah's, we're no longer talking about sentences or chapter. We're not we're no longer talking about chunks of the Quran. Okay, we are talking about now literally letters, okay, maybe a sound, a difference from one camera to another camera. This shows you that the Quran has been delicately preserved. What does it show you? It has been so delicately preserved, the now you have been boiled down to discussing olives, and kasan, Dhamma and Fatah, these minor, very, very minor differences in the Quran. And this is how Allah is showing us that do not doubt even a sentence of the Quran,

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because it is so powerful to preserve the human law. And that's when it has been written differently to another copy as he had done that's that's challenges. The other thing is, and I know you spoke about this many, many times. The issue here is that, can you show us an extra verse that you would notice between these two? Can you forget about a verse? Can you show me an extra full word that exists? between the different there's no such thing exists? And, and whatever differences that occur there are comprehended by the carrot. So we'll have the verbal element that's approved for us, not against us. Absolutely, absolutely. Let me clarify again, whatever slight variations we find in the

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art as well as the rosov of man, they originate from the seven or haruf they originate from the seven. Okay, this must be very clearly understood by every single person listening to this podcast on this live stream, okay? Whatever, minor, slight variations, and they are slightest, okay, we have in the karate pronunciation of the Quran or even the written form, they actually originate from the revelation of Allah, which are revealed in seven different modes. So it will definitely come from one of those seven different variations of the Quran that were given to the Prophet salallahu Salam Alaikum

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The Arabs and the language. Okay. So this is this is very, very simple for people to understand. And this goes to show that Subhan Allah, how powerfully this word has been, has been preserved that even those slight variations have passed down have been passed down to us from the arrow.

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And do indeed, and we do have current plans, now preserved in museums that that go back to say, not a fan of the Alon. Even before that, even before that, we have, we have, for example, the Birmingham parchment, it was carbon dated to have come from the life of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam although I believe it is of Monique, I believe personally be fair, it is worth money. It is definitely one of the authentic manuscripts from the time of Whitman or the lawan. But carbon dating, radiocarbon dating which gives you an estimated date, dated that particular pass meant to have come from between 568 C to 640-645-3645 C. So this is the entire length of the life of the Prophet sallallahu sallam,

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the prophet was born in 570. And he died in 632, while the parchment comes from between 568 to 645. So by that virtue, the parchment, if we go by the carbon dating came from the life of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, it is very likely the animal was killed in the time of the progress alone, because they use the substance to compensate, not the ink necessarily, so it is very highly likely the animal where the parchment came from, was killed during the life of the Prophet and it was used later on to write the Quran, as we find it today. So, that is one of the earliest copy. We have many, many more copies that come from the lives of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu

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sallam. For example, Salah manuscripts if you go on a website,

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and the address is as follows www dot Islamic hyphen awareness.org

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ww dot Islamic hyphen awareness.org. And if you go to the Quran section, click on the Quran section. And then click on the manuscript section you will see the list of all the early copies of the Quran coming from the life of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam and all the academic opinions about those copies. Okay? Don't listen to extremist Christian missionaries. Don't listen to so called ex Muslims or don't listen to extremist atheists. You want to listen to anyone go to peer reviewed respect, respected, honorable, reputable scholars were writing or Cambridge, Harvard and Oxford, places like that. Because these universities because they care about the

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integrity and the credibility, they wouldn't allow a bigot to publish through them. So only proper scholars get published by the universities, go and pick up the works and start reading and see what they have to say. Once you've read few books on this topic, you will come to realize there is there is nothing to talk about, like Bart Ehrman, who is one of the greatest authorities on the text of the New Testament, while the Christians don't like him because he apostatize from Christianity left Christianity, right. Having found what he found about the Bible, he found that the Bible simply cannot be trusted. The text of the New Testament in particular, so he was asked about the Quran.

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Yes, he was asked about the Quran, okay, you're saying all these things about the New Testament? What about the Quran? He said there's nothing to say about the Quran. This is exactly what Bart Ehrman said because all the manuscripts are the same. All the early manuscripts of the Quran are the same. So what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say you want me to make up stories, but that's not the case with the manuscripts of the New Testament. So there is nothing to say. This is why nowadays a lot of people a lot of missionaries and these islamophobes they are not if you have noticed, they do not attack the Rasul the manuscripts of the Quran, they attack the Quran that's

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true, they attack the Quran and they tried to use the karate to attack the Quran while the Quran art or if anything and evidence for Quran not against

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Allah Allah Subhana Allah that I think many people don't realize this and even the Muslims on dialysis Bell who is a natural fit for duty Ludhiana.

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Allah subhanaw taala and a I mean he's, he's, he's telling the believers Yeah.

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How he preserved its verses in the chest of the believers. Yeah. And in any, even if I want to, if you want to make the argument, okay, depending on the restroom, or, or or whatever. At the end of the day, these are less hostile and the ultimate way of preserving it, wasn't it

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Just undeliverable admin and maybe maybe don't realize, absolutely look this this is a coin from the first century in my hand. How do you want me to read it? How do you want me to read it? It is there in clay Arabic Allahu Allah SummerSlam Yella, Dora mula, Colombia.

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Fine, one can say okay, you only reading it like that because it was preserved for you and I say exactly. I say exactly, thank you. The reason why I'm saying Allah who had a low summit, I'm saying love not limb. I'm saying lamb, not limb or not long. I'm saying lung yeah lindwall amulet, I am saying that because it has been preserved for me.

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It has been that tradition, how to read it has been transferred, has been given to me from my previous generations through an uninterrupted chain of transmission. So thank you, this is why we say not only the text has been preserved in things like this on coins on parchment, on you know other substances and materials, even the reading of it has reached us. So when I lost that in the Quran, internationalism, Nicaragua and Allahu Allah Hafiz

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now we know what he meant. We know exactly what I meant, and inshallah, in the future, we will probably be more clear on this inshallah and more stuff comes up. One final thing that I wanted to kind of share with our audience is the fact that

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the way we we go about investigating a script or a camera, it's we do it extremely in a scientific way, like, unlike Ghana, with with all due respect, unlike our Christian partners, when someone like when someone find a scroll, okay, we have, you know, it's a it's a Bible, because it's a scroll had been have been found, you know, but but do you know, what, if it had this scroll? No. Do we have a chain of transmission of how the scroll camp came about? No, it seems like some if somebody comes, like tomorrow, not today, tomorrow, or next week, someone found another scroll, call it whatever, whatever, whatever scroller is, you know,

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don't, don't name it the Quran because we have to know who would have written it. Where did it come from?

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How was it preserved? Just because someone finds something does not mean we're gonna automatically attribute to the Quran, just like what other people have been doing, and that religions.

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Anyone who wants to say something today, that it is the Quran, we will put it

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to the definition of the beautiful what is the definition? The definition is the word of Allah given to the Prophet transmitted to his companions. If the companions did not write it down and forward it to the future generations, then it is not the Quran. It doesn't have if a text or a sentence or a verse does not have the sanction, okay, or the injunction of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, then it cannot be accepted as the period full stop. We take the Quran, from the Prophet and his disciples, and they tell us what the Quran is okay. Whatever was read by the prophet, and was left out by him initially, for example, some of the abrogated verses that's not the

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Quran for us anymore. Sure on is exactly what was transmitted as the final version.

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Via Jabra you, why did you Brian, because we are told in again the Hades literature, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam read the Quran twice in this final year with the bridleway Salah twice in the current order, in the current order in this order, okay, whereby we have certain Fatiha and we have sort of Bukhara, then we have

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Surah Surah libran, we have sort of de Missa we have sort of Maya and the list goes on, right? This is the order the Quran was read in, in the final year of the prophets of Allah Salaam, under the supervision of Deborah L, who brought the Quran from Allah and then this is the order the Prophet read to they didn't have it in his final year, and this is the orders they've been put down in the rustle of man when he was compiling the final standardized copy of the Quran. Okay, so, to summarize the whole thing I recommend a book very strongly. It is Muhammad Mustafa Allah adame jF Muhammad Mustafa la de Mira La La he has passed away. He has written this book, titled, The history of the

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Quranic text from revelation to compilation, the history of the Quranic text from revelation to compilation, get the second edition, the second edition the first edition has been basically not outdated, but the second edition is

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updated, they have added some more information in the second edition. So please get your get a copy of that. And the second source I highly recommend is that website Islamic hyphen awareness.org, the Quran section and you will get plenty of information on the Quranic manuscripts and more, john,

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again, for all of our audience, stay assured, Allah subhanho wa Taala have preserved or broken into something that we have to be proud of, or light

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hearted, we have to grow and out of Allah subhanaw taala lessons, he preserved this book through oral oral tradition and through the stood. And it's something that we this is something that is one thing that we should be proud of, is our book, I mean, it There is no doubt whatsoever that that is part of this book and out of the His mercy, you know, he has given us the way several ways for us to decide that and why so we could say we could so and it's not just consistent to one meaning it has several meanings of the same word. And this is out of the blessings and the mercy of Allah subhana wa tada that Allah

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May Allah Allah May preserve you and shall we this is just the start what we're gonna do we're gonna shell out a budget inshallah

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born with the latter my pleasure is the Kola head, stay tuned and inshallah we will indisposed here

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in a second.