Isha Prayer Start and End

spinlock Muhammad hamdulillah Bill alameen Allahumma salli wa sallim wa barik ala nabina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi Germaine Allahumma salli ala jotham Salah. What enter tegile has now either shed salla Allahu Indialantic rica or should recover his Nevada to curable Kadima Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. As you can see, I'm grinning like a Cheshire Cat. It's very difficult not to this is probably I don't know, probably is the most unique LP that we've ever recorded a very small group of selector brothers here on a road trip from the beautiful mountains of Alberta, Banff and so on so forth. We had a fundraiser for Murray in Edmonton. And then we went through Calgary.

And now, today, we went through the Rockies, and we've reached British Columbia. And so what you see behind me is

we're probably about 345 hours from Whistler, and probably about the same from Vancouver, in the area of British Columbia. Of course, it is very beautiful. But it's British, of course. And that's exactly what we should be telling our Canadian brothers and sisters. So it's a privilege to be here with you guys. I'm recording this lesson. And I think we're gonna go straight into it. Have you learned this lesson is not going to have much interruptions, other than for my guests a few of the grasshoppers which you can hear in the background, the crickets, and a few birds and few cosmic dragon passed. But Alhamdulillah I'm sure that you guys will enjoy the dots. I hope that you shall

focus on the fact though a little bit anxious focus on the focus on the darcia and not only on the beauty behind me because Mashallah, this beauty here says, Yeah, yeah.

Then there's a beauty of their

background is incidental. See, I'm giving you so much eye candy. I don't think I've ever looked into the camera so much anymore. This that's the law. All right. So

in last week's lesson, we finished off the issue of mother in fact, specifically we did. Following that is the time for McRib, which lasts until the redness disappears. It is assumed not to hasten Muslim, except for the pilgrim who intends other than that on the night of Muslims. So that was when we finished it last night in Sharla. So today, I'm hoping that we can cover the final aspect of the times as such with respect to the five daily prayers. The more I leave it Rahmatullah. He says, Wiley, he walked to the shop, a little fudge rissani wallbottle Mataram. What, a lasagna filet of insol when he walked in forgery alliterations what as you know how often the translation of that

would be following that any Muslim following that is the time of Asia, which lasts up until the second dawn, where whiteness spreads horizontally along the horizon, it is better to delay Asia until a third of the night passes, if it is easy. Following that is a time of pleasure, which lasts up until sunrise. It is better to hasten it hasten here, of course means to pray as quick as possible. Alright, so let's start off then with the issue of Asia.

So, according to the more Elif I know he's representing the humbling method was interesting hear that the time for Asia lasts from the

the the time that we already described, which is when the shafique disappears when the Twilight disappears. And we've already discussed that in last week's lesson, the Twilight being either the redness or the whiteness in the sky. And actually, the time that we're recording right, now, you can see that the light is disappearing from the sky. But when this light does decrease, decrease, and the sun does set eventually, then what you will see is that the redness on the horizon behind me will remain, and then it will then disappear. And then the whiteness then will then start to slowly disappear. We've already said that the majority of the scholars will consider Asia to start once the

redness disappears. And so the humbly madhhab it considers that the Emperor has a very large bracket of time that it lasts all the way from when the Twilight disappears. So roughly about an hour and a half hour 15 hour 20 minutes off the mothership. Right and wait until fudge of stars I fudge it a Thani which of course is going to indicate the DA to fudge at times and we're going to talk about that as well. You'll remember of course, that in the earlier lessons in this entire subject, practically we've gone through all of these matters using the diagrams and using the the the science and explaining what the fake for general the false Dawn is. And the true Dawn is so you should

already you know that should be a a reminder for you anyway, but had we like I said we're doing the book version now. So that's the main thing. We're on page 112. Have a moment there and check it out. I mean,

he then says that so clearly, that there is two functions according to what the author says. And so of course, what the purpose Lysander has indicated. And it was as we said before, the first factor

fraudulent, or fraudulent credit is the fall stone. And the fall stone occurs in the middle of the sky is not on the horizon. And she is I mean, he says that it will happen, it will occur when it's seen. And when it's noticed, it will occur about an hour 15

an hour or an hour 15 in that kind of region, about 60 to 75 minutes before the proper job before the proper dawn, the true dawn

and shift.

Enter Semyon Allahu LA, he defines three specific differences, according to him, which you can use to distinguish between the false dawn and the true dawn. So according to him, he says

is that the, the false Dawn is in the middle of the sky. And he says, from east to

he says, from east to west, now what east to west means in terms of a globe, I don't want you to assume it's like that. But like experience from the Hadith of the Prophet SAW Selim, it says in the sky like this, so it's not spread across the horizon. So it's not spread, you know, along like that, rather than the sky, in the middle of the in the middle of the sky.

Very high up. And so that's the first thing, whereas the future Assad saw that the true dawn will be across the horizon. So you'll see it Yanni. And the horizon, of course, will be as far as I can see, and when the light itself then starts to then appear as a crack on the horizon. flat. Jani, the nuts is the one the one that spreads across, that is the true dawn. So that's the first difference. The first one's like this. Second one is Connect is on the on the actual horizon.

The second difference, he says, and then First of all,

is dark.

If the area is very dark, the light comes, but then it goes back dark very, very quickly. So you don't see much light come from it, whereas, so it starts off dark, then a little bit light appears and it starts to become dark again. Whereas the true dawn just keeps, he keeps increasing in light. And it keeps increasing and rapidly increasing. So there's no pause. So that's a very clear differentiation. And then the final one, which is the most easiest and most obvious one,

for pathologists, is an infection of any possible offer. Yani, as I said before, the true Dawn is connected to the horizon. So it was it's literally, when you see land meets sky meets seawheeze, whatever. So if you were to look a lot along the line is actually as if it's coming off the actual horizon, the line, whereas the false Dawn is actually in the middle of the sky. So there's a big gap. So the darkness in the middle, there's no light on the horizon, there's darkness, and it suddenly appears there is that gap. So it's disconnected. So that's obviously one of the reasons why it is a fake dog. Now, you might say, Are there any rulings which are established on the full stone?

No, not at all. Neither does it stop a fast or you're eating, if you're preparing too fast? Neither does it start to prep, it's just an indication of time, it just indicates to the people who are fasting that hey, you know, soon is going to be time to

pray if you're asleep, for example, you haven't prayed without, and then the false dawn time. And that's what builds the Allahu taala, who would make a decision at that time, which is just indicating that, hey, there's an hour left roughly, it's like an alarm clock. You know, you don't obviously put the alarm clock on right in the exact time of the Jamaat procedure, but beforehand, isn't it to get yourself ready. So an hour before the actual real dawn, you've got time now to wake up I'm pretty old funeral car of 200 and finish off your winter, if you're fasting and have some food, and so on and so forth. So that's it's actual,

necessary his actual function.

The

shift that means says that the evidence for its entering meaning Asia, so he wants to Yanni obviously,

dot the i's and cross the T's. He says that the evidence for the entrance of slots in Asia are the two headings, the headings of the library armor, if not a house that we covered before. And the heritage Jubilee and the Hadees of, of Abdullah bin armor is very clear, it says that when the Twilight disappears when the Twilight disappears, and Jubilee line is solemn, that was the Hadith when he came and the prophets lie Selim was led. And the the prayer was, was established on one day, and then on the second day, as well. And then he said, between these two times is the time. So in the first on the first day, it was when the toilet had disappeared, and that was the red toilet had

disappeared. And then on the second day, he prayed when, as the as the narrator said, when either a third or a half of the night had passed, and so we see that both Hadees show us start time, okay, and show a start time. Both studies also show a end time and that's of course what we're going to be discussing mostly today, because it's quite an interesting issue. I don't say it's controversial, but the scholars really differed on the matter of one slot Alicia ends. So what is the evidence stand for when slots and fudge are actually our slots Alicia actually ends well, according

Instead of humble ease, and according to the shafa is their official position of their method. And also according to a few of the contemporary scholars, like Abdullah OBrien, for example, and and other earlimart The, the Time Force lateral Asia continues all the way and it's essentially the position of the Hanafi school as well. That's not the time for slaughter a shot goes all the way until fudger. all the way until budget why, because of this head is the province of lies lm said Lisa Finn namita free up that one is not to be is not considered negligent if they are sleeping. Indeed negligence in the motto free thought that that

negligence is only to be seen as a hothead, Dr. salata O'Hara, that the only time when person is considered negligent is when a person delays their prayer so much that the next prayer time answers so let me translate that Hadees again Hadees narrated by Muslim in the book of massage had his number 681 I repeat, that it is not in sleep which way one is negligent, one is negligent when one delays the prayer so much so that the prayer that the next prayer time enters. So this hadith is of course, so here, and this is a very famous Hadith. Now let me just explain something. This Hadith mentions what affiliate affiliate means negligent, negligent means that you are guilty, you are

sinful. So it's the opposite the opposite to a mistake. So you can either make a mistake, or you can either be negligent, meaning that it was something that happened because of your your fault, your money was under your control, and you weren't any on game, you went on point, you were negligent. So therefore, you will be held accountable and you are sinful. And we know that a person goes to sleep with every intention to wake up and then doesn't wake up and they miss the prayer, then we know that's going to be not nice not sinful. We know that as soon as then, as soon as you wake up, you pray immediately as you wake up, as you remember it.

But the second part of the head is is the legal part is what we're all scholars use this point as and that is to say that a person who is negligent is the one who keeps delaying his prerogatives until the next president enters. So what's the head is trying to say is trying to say that the heady prayer times are muscle cell meaning continuous. So a prayer time lasts until the next prayer time. And the next prayer time lasts until the next prayer time. And the next part time lasts into the next prayer time. And so that would make sense because we know for example, that when you start from start to load, then start with Lord Lawson so awesome, right? So then enters an asset then last

until marketing, right? And then McRib enters into Madrid, Lawson said Asia right. And so now the continuing department is saying was Asia into enters and Asia enters last until fudger. Right? That is their argument. Now, should I say mean, is very critical of this.

This understanding of this Hadeeth. And also actually, this Jani.

This approach to the to the issue, he goes on page 114. And there is no evidence in this because actually the statement of the purpose of life and limb that negligence is only if you delay the prayer until the next prayer time enters, then.

First of all, we know that's not even true if you are thinking that this is meant to be making a legal point, because Latin fudger is, is that that's definitely the case. So let's refresh our if you were to delay it, you wouldn't delay it until the next prayer time comes Actually, it's not connected to the next prayer time it ends at sunrise. So there's a big gap between then and door. So he's basically saying that this Hadith, actually is not indicating at all about the legal prayer times. In actual fact, he argues that this this Hadith,

he goes to this hadith actually indicates that the the sin of a person who is delaying the prayer unnecessarily is what's been focused on not the actual legal start time of the prayer. So it's like a statement of warning, shall Benny actually made a very interesting point. And it will determine them in his commentary to all his static and brief notes to a modern book author or co author kosuna, which I think you guys would have seen in English on five volumes. One of the classic kind of was classic contemporary work, but it's a famous contemporary work an interesting one, by say the set by say sabich Rahmatullah in his notes that are shocked, nobody makes an interesting point. And

he says that, and this is, of course, mentioned by the scholars as well, that this Hadees By the way, that there is no negligence in sleeping if you missed the primary cause of sleeping. That night negligence is only if you actually intentionally delay the prayer, and then don't pray in his right time until the next prayer time enters this Hadeeth was actually revealed in conjunction or specifically when they missed the fudger pray we've spoken about studies a number of times, when the promise of lies element is companions, the overslept biller was meant to wake them up and give the will make amends was meant to wake up early and give the other than he overslept. They all

overslept. When they all woke up, then the sun had risen and fudger had gone is at this time that it is said the majority of the scholars said that this hadith was revealed and not as interesting, as their LMS said they said that how is

The province of Lyons lm would make such a headies, which is specifically about fudger, but would exempt fudger from the actual Hadees. If that makes sense. Let me let me explain that again, that the Hadith itself clearly says that that sin is only if you delay the prayer until the next time the next person enters. We know that's not the case will fudger fudger ends at sunrise. So, legally, this Hadees does not apply to fudger. However, the argue or the Hadees was revealed at a time when they missed out. So the actual incident was a suburban rural or suburban route, if you like, the reason why this hadith was actually narrated, or was stated by the process and then was because they

miss fudger. So clearly, it has to include pleasure. So why would it exclude pleasure from the description? Why would the Hadees actually exclude pleasure? So the argument from the modern day, or some of these contemporary scholars, and as I said, this is also one of the positions of the amount of shaeffer he himself so even within the Shafi method, it's also the position of Imam

or statement from Imam Malik, or rewire from Imam Malik, and as I said, is very strongly held by chef Amin. And also if you look at the Hadith, then you can see that it is stated in the Hadees. Clearly as well, for example, the hadith of gibreel. It says that the time slots from when the Twilight disappears, and the second day, when did it end, after a third or a half of the night had passed? All right. And then he said that the time was in between these two times. So that would indicate that, obviously, there's a limit, and he had eaten alive and amatola. us, he said that the time for Asia lasts until the middle illa matassa. filet, l was in one ration, and lm autocephaly

into the middle of the middle of the night, or in the middle of the night.

And so that's a very clear statement indicating an endpoint right into the middle of the night. Now let's look at what the LMR responded, they said that actually, what this is referring to is the what what they call the walkable, walk less theory Eonni. The the choice, the best time to pray for a person who is in control of it, and what we require from a person or recommended time to pray. And that this does not, they will they combine this Hadeeth they use this one, they said every time I send them puts a limit at the end of the prayer to a third of the night or half of the night. This is an indication that this is what you should pray it before. But then after that, it is possible

for a person like we explained last week for slaughter law so that if there's some kind of problem or some kind of emergency, a person is late, etc, then that person can technically or the critical time actually lasts until fudger. So that's the position of the majority of the scholars, like I said, the shaeffer emails have been member know we explained this point very clearly. It's the humbly schools position as well, as I said, the number of the contemporary scholars as well. That's how they combined between them. They said that this Hadees it doesn't actually mean that's the final final end point. Rather, it means that that's the that's the end point for the recommended time. And

after that there is a time for recommend for those who are really stuck. Now. What's my opinion on this? And what's the class class position? Well, I have to I want to make a number of points is actually interesting. By the way, the headings of the webinar model is the one that talks about what time the prayer ends. The ends and starts and ends is noted by hedis. Number 393.

I have to say that, if you do think about the Hadees that the prophets lie, Selim said that the prayer

if it wasn't that I would cause difficulties for my own mind, then I would make them delay the prayer until at least a third of the nights or half of the nights until late. That is a compelling points because there's clear that the headies is wanting people on an individual basis to pray late. However, it is interesting that why would the promise of life and limb delay a prayer right until his virtual end point. If it really was the end and half the half the night, then the processor was effectively then saying that you're praying is last second, which doesn't make sense. To me it doesn't it doesn't sit well with me. However, if you were to use the fact that the companions are

the ones who had the doubt, they're the ones who said the pros are seldom said to delay the prayer until about a third or a half if you were to use his actual stare. If you were to use the companion statements and say that the Prophet said him himself actually never said half the night, then that makes a lot more sense. That would then suggest that the best time to praise late in between a third of the night having passed and half of the night having passed. And I think that's actually very interesting. Of course, I remind you again as even as Shekar Theremin reminds us that when you want to work out how a third of the night half of the night What midnight is, you have to look at it and

linguistically when we see what time what midnight means montesa for late, then we take it from the time that sunset occurs until sunrise, and that is the Shetty sorry, until fudge up dawn. And that is the opposite position as well. So for example, at the moment here, the sun is rising about her past three, her past three where we are right now and it's setting about her past eight. So you would basically

Take the

hours, let's do that. So hoppers, eight would be half nine, half 10, half 11, half 12, half, one, half, two, half, three, seven hours. So then you would half that. So that's three and a half hours. So three and a half hours, then you would add on to MATLAB. So three and a half hours would make that

12 o'clock. So, yes, so in this example, montesa filet would actually be 12am. Midnight, okay. But as I said, it doesn't necessarily mean midnight, it depends upon the length of the night at different times of the year, etc. So keep that in mind. And therefore, that's half of the night, then a third of the night. So we said that the night lasts seven hours, and that lasts seven hours. So divide seven by three. So that's two hours and 20 minutes, okay, so two hours and 20 minutes, so a third of the night would start, help us, they help us to help us 10 1015 1015 would be when a third of the night started. So according to the sooner the individual sort of the process lm, a

person should be praying by themselves, and between 1050 and 12 o'clock, and that would be the recommended prayer. And obviously, that's the delaying the prayer. And it's a lot more difficult for people, especially if they're working, especially if the times are very difficult in the summer, and so on. And that's why you will see in MSG aids, of course, the Isha prayer is earlier, because of is looking for the, for the for the benefit of the old, the weak, the, you know, the majority of people. And so therefore, the prayer is obviously earlier. And the question is to be asked, What if a person has faced with this, we know, it's sooner to delay the prayer, but the Jamaat is earlier?

Which one do you go to, of course, it's always the Jamaat, the reward of the congregation in the masjid, always Trump's the reward of praying individually later, even though that's the sooner and I want that to be very clear, as a consensus of all the supporters, of course, the prayer time for Asia must enter, it must enter, you can't have someone who's praying 20 minutes after mother and say, you know, it's better to pray with him at a full time than to pray at a proper time later. So obviously, it needs to be at the proper time. Now, like I said, I want to say this, I am sympathetic to the idea that the prayer does last until I understand the argument which is being made and that's

something which to be honest,

it can be a case can be made for this using the Hadees of negligence, I get that but I think that at the primary level when you actually think about what is being said with respect to this Hadees concerning the the dividing of the

the the dividing of the night and whether it is a time for Russia and whether it has a gap than before fudger What shall I say mean makes a really interesting argument. Here's what he says. He says

that actually if you look at the sooner we've already established that the two headings that make it very very clear that a person is meant to pray there's lots of Asia before half the night has passed and they said you should take that linguistic they should you take that literally there it's not meant to be indicating that there's a recommended time and an obligatory and a critical time that is meant to be taken exactly as the pros are seldom said that it is until half the night has passed and that's it. Okay. And so once you stick to that is clear. He also made a really interesting argument from the Quran he said that the Quran also indicates that there is a time limit for Isha and that

fudger is one which is completely by itself. He argues that pleasure is a prayer which not only has a gap before it, but a gap after it. Here's how he argues that he says if you look at what Allah Subhana Allah says in Surah verse 78, he says, optimists will actually do Luca shamcey illa hasakah lady walk or Anil fudger in Coronel surgery kanima shuda. As Allah says, the translation would be an established the prep for the setting of the Sun Li De Luca Shams for the setting of the sun, Isla recirculate until the darkness of the night does not suck means very darkness pop top out of the night, and the worker unintelligent and at the recitation of the under under a citation of fudger or

the recitation of time Indeed, the Quran, the recitation at fudger not the Quran, but the recitation adventure is something which is witnessed So again, I would translate that and establish the prayer for the for the setting of the sun until the darkness of the night and there is citation or under a citation advantage of time. So three times have been specified. So three points have been specified. One the setting of the sun to the darkness of the night and three, the dawn time, and here's something very, very interesting. Allah subhanaw taala did not say akima salata Min De Luca Shams from De Luca shams, Elijah Salah, he did not say, and established a prayer from the setting of the

sun until the darkness of the night. He said, Lee, and lamb here is what we call lambda suburb. So this means that the actual reason that a prayer can actually be established is for the entrance of the time. So it's almost

But but then I'm here establishes the reason the sub however it is to be translated as men from so in actual fact you can still translate it as an establish the prep from the time of the

setting of the sun until the darkness of the night so you can still translate it as a from but the lamb I want to make a kitten in English you can't see the lamb and the lamb lead Luca shrimps which means Minda Luca Shams is indicating that it's the actual onset of the it is the actual setting of the sun, which is the reason why prayer is established. So this is this is one of the evidences, of course why they said that from the conditions of the prayer is the entering of the time because of the Lamb of the sub. Here's something which I which I mean mentions,

this was very important. When I say the setting of the sun, you're thinking, right, because that's when the sun sets. In actual fact, this is not talking about the setting of the sun of Muslim, but rather as I said to you before, that when the sun rises in the east, and it rises, right, well, of course, as I said before, the sun doesn't but the the earth is the one which doesn't, it looks like the sun is is rising, getting high. So it goes high, high, high high and a meteor this meridian point, and I told you that is then stops at that point, remember, and then I said as it stops at that point that is the brightest and hottest part of the day whites as part of the sun. And

therefore that's the time of shadow, of course that the people used to do that kind of pagan worships on worship. And that's where we have the the time for a while we wait. And then as soon as then the sun starts then move again. That's why you don't pray for that 1015 minute period. Okay. And that's why you don't pray for that 1015 minute period of the sunrise and likewise, of sunset, when it's when it's at that point, then it will then start to set it will literally start to go to the other side. So a shadow, for example, would have been now on the west, and then it starts to become neutral. And then it starts to now start to grow on the east side, because the sun is now

going on the west side. So what you're seeing is the sun setting from its high point, not the sun setting below the horizon, the sun setting meaning is starting to collapse, collapse now towards the west, that is the sunset. So the horn now is being indicated in this Quranic ayah. That's the start point, until when, until 11. o'clock at night until the nighttime but until the darkness of the night, the darkest point of the night, the real real Yanni lack of light part of the nighttime, when is that that's of course, as as, as the scholar said, in the middle of the night when it is right in the middle of the darkness of the actual time. And so what does that mean, it says is that what this

ayah indicates is that there is a continuous time in which the prayer is established. So from the heart until midnight, the half point of the night, is when the prayer is established, and then Coronel fudger. And then at virtue of time, so there's a gap, and then it starts again at future time. And then there's a gap, and then it starts again. So effectively, all four prayers are at one time the Hassan mother have an issue, then there's a gap, and then there's fudger. And then there is the thing, and he goes, That's why the ayah be separated. Now it's a very nice point, actually, the the the the second part of the of the verse separates have a job, and in real time as well, we

should separate fetch up so the full prizes are on one go or one time all the only connected they are connected with one another. And then at midnight, not not 12 o'clock necessarily papapapa 11, depending upon the time of the year, that's when your issue ends, and then you have a gap period and then furture starts and that goes into sunrise, then you have a gap period. And then you have thought so again fudger is isolated the other four prayers are connected. So this is his evidence from the

Quran and Allah Subhana Allah knows best. Now obviously, there are some other statements of the seller which would indicate this say now we will have Bob, he was very much upon this opinion, he wrote a letter to his governance from the other companions. And he told them to make sure that they establish the pressure pressure and delay it but do not pray it past the midnight. He said to them do not pray past midnight and don't be from Eleazar feeling Do not be from the heedless. So and to be from the halfling is not something which is positive. So you can see that's a nama is being is being strict on this matter.

So the position then of checkers, I mean, for swab, he says on page 115 isn't an unlocked in Asia in understanding that the time for the Isha prayer starts from when the Twilight disappears when the light disappears from the sky until the when, until until midnight. Um, what's my position? My position is this. I remember that the other scholars they said that no midnight is basically like a working kind of point. That's where you should try to pray it before but after that if a person is stuck, then he should.

It's a matter of wish they had and I believe that it's a much safer and correct position to consider that it's it does expire at midnight, and that's our class position. It's a working position as well. But I do want to say that if there was some really difficult position that a person was in, he couldn't get home or there was some kind of real difficulty and they prayed that prayer would be accepted. It will be a real big call from someone to say that

that the prayer would be rejected that matter.

is one of the laugh. It is much I wish they had of the it's one of interpretation of the evidences. And certainly there are a number of major scholars and mme that considered that the prank prayer time for Isha does last until fudger. And you can see the argument, and they make it up that that's a critical time, it shouldn't be the time you pray should be before then. But if someone is stuck, then they should pray that I just think that one should try to avoid that as much of doubt. And therefore one should pray, pray as best as much as possible should pray before midnight occurs before midnight, because they may also make mentioned one other point, which is nice. He says that

it's important to focus that the obligatory prayers are grouped up into this four prayer, you know, slot from the hot outside microwave and Asia. He goes that gap period, then it's a time for nothing. So this is the obligatory prayer which allows talks about an operand. And that the gap period after the after midnight until fetcher until the future time slots, that's a time of nephila voluntary prayers, supererogatory, prayers, and tahajjud. And I think that's very nice. Because if you think about it, likewise is the other gap is the same when the promise of life seldom

ever missed the tahajjud prayer for any reason, then we know he's alive, Selim would make it up at the time, which is the for noon, the pre Zod time. So for example, that would be like from seven, eight o'clock in the morning, or 678 o'clock in the morning, until, until half past 12. Basically that entire morning period. It's almost to say that the prefetch of time is knuffel tahajjud, post fudger, post sunrise time is nothing and Doha. The IDs are the prayer times, which are nice and empty. Lots of prayers can be prayed lots of lots of sunar prayers, lots of knuffel presence of extra prayers, those which you just want to pray for no reason at all, as just an act of a bother

those which want to do for us a lot of Mr. hora or any other reason that you're you can think of this is a beautiful time to pray and focus on those words and other prayers, other prayer times, that's when one focuses on the obligatory presenters that are the most important. So I hope that inshallah is that makes sense. Then the author then says, what a hero how to lay off the insole. So he just the author, even though he humbly is have made it clear that the prayer lasts until fudger. And it starts as as soon as the Twilight disappears, which as I said, is about an hour and a half an hour 40, depending upon time of the year, at this time now in the summer.

For the UK, for Canada, for Europe, in these kind of locations, whether or not then the latitude and the northern attitude is is high. And I'm quite comfortable, quite comfortable by saying that a person can wait an hour or 20. But that's I just want to make that clear. I've been discussing this for the last five, six weeks, that that's not just an issue based upon observation where we see the redness start to disappear. But I want to say that redness, of course doesn't entirely disappear, which does not mean, which means that technically the issue has not properly entered. Okay. However, we know that we are using a little bit of like, almost if we're cooking a kind of like a like a

curry. The ingredients that we use them to create our fatwa is a little bit of the actual observation, which we can see that the majority of the lies disappeared, as it should do the redness. We're also using the fact that when you go and look at the equatorial countries and Muslim countries that Maghrib Isha normally follows mothering by about an hour, 15 hour, 10 hour, 20 hour and a half. So that's the normal practice and normative stable kind of times that are not so high latitude. And the third thing is very important. And that is that the because it's so late, because it's so difficult, because the night is so short the days so long, we are using

a little bit of fatwa a little bit of necessity, a little bit of extreme circumstances. And that is of course, based upon the Hadith of the Jan, as I've said many times, when the companion sent to the province of lice and lemon, who had told them that the child would come on a day that would last like a year. So time would break down upon that day, they were concerned about their practice and how we're going to pray that they had a son in law, he said Dr. O'Connor, who make an estimation of that day about when to put your times if you're estimating the prayer times, that would indicate that you will be praying at a time where there's the physical sign does not match the actual time.

So you will be making the extra time maybe when light is light. And you will be praying Muslim when it's light and the sun is still up, like you would in India and you know, in Greenland or in art in the Arctic regions or so on at the time where it's persistent sunlight. So keep that in mind that our our opinion of the sharper air coming in to pray at the earliest time is about an hour 20 an hour 15 off the motherland for the summertime and I've given that the idea permission to the massage. But that's not the question here. The question is now if you have your own choice, how long should you wait? What time should you pray? Well, as I said before, they said that you should wait

until after a third of the night has passed. So that's like according to what I what I said after the start time, maybe two, two and a half hours after the start time. Okay? And if it is difficult, then

then it can be prayed at the beginning time. And if it's easy, then it's better to actually delay it. What's the evidence of that the Hadith of the bursa? radi Allahu taala and who the Hadith of the bursa that he said Coronavirus ally Salaam

Mr. Hamilton, you achalasia the the personalized lm used to love used to prefer rather delaying the shopper and we also had the headache of jabber, radi Allahu taala and who that person is, by the way, narrated by Bukhari and Muslim and the second head is headed to jabber, radi Allahu taala. And who he says is our Amish timer. Oh, agile, whether our home a bottle.

The promise of mycelium said again as noted in Buhari had his number 565. Jobs said that when the personalized lm would see that the people had gathered together, then he would hasten the prayer they would pray. But he goes that when he would see that they had become they were a bit slow to come to the masjid. Remember, you see they weren't coming to a specific time, they will just look around and see it's dark, and it comes to the masjid. So if the people had delayed, maybe they will come back from somewhere they are eating dinner, whatever reason, then he would delay the prayer. But if for example, all the people in the masjid and sitting around waiting, then he would come out.

And he would hasten to pray and pray it so they don't hang around waiting too long. So he's clearly thinking about them. However, it's clear that he prefers to delay the prayer himself.

And then there's another time of course, there were the purpose of life and limb, he was delaying the prayer one night, until much of the night had passed, and then say no more about the Allahu anhu he stood up. He said the Rasul Allah nominees also be and he said that the women and children have gone to sleep. So the professor lies a lamp, he came out of his house and his, his head was dripping with water. And he goes in the hole in the hula, after that this is the actual time for a shot, meaning the delay time is better for Asia. And after a third has gone and is we're not too far away from midnight,

Lola and Ashoka Allah Almighty.

If it wasn't for that, if it wasn't for that, that what you're describing the difficulty, then.

And I don't want to put a difficult to put my own mind. That's the reason why I'm not going to keep it. That's why I'm not going to delay any further and I'll pray with you. And so he did pray with them. Interesting thing. Of course, in his head, he says the fact that Satan Ahmed said that the women and the children have gone to sleep which shows again, that the presence of women and children in the masjid something which is permissible, something which is recommended as well. But it doesn't necessarily mean that we're there all the time. But the interesting thing, of course, is that the issue of prayer is one of those that people don't believe that they would attend. But they did

indeed attended think about that as well. That's something for reflection. So chef Theremin says these evidences are very, very clear. And they indicate that to delay the prayer until a third of the night has passed is something which is better what I can insert only though if it's easy, because, of course, it is better to it is it is important to look at the situation of the people, illness work, you know, like the seasons length of day, I think is completely unacceptable. For example, in Canada and the West, and UK, Europe, today, the press are late because the summertime is a real difficult time for people who are professionals and people are working, which should be the

majority of people on this oil. And with such a short notice as early fragile, in people can become very, very tidy, affects their productivity affects their mood, it affects their day, and that's not good at all. So and so that people would themselves want to pray early, obviously legitimately, then that's what should happen.

That means there's something which is I think, important, he goes Is there a group of people and they've got no restrictions, they've got no issues that traveling around and you know, like us together. We're not we're not part of a messenger, then we're just traveling, then we should also delay the shopper that is something which should be done. But when it is,

you know when it's as parts of a mystery than a community and an organization then they should pray when do people need to and if that is earlier than earlier, he also says that women are praying at home than they should in principle delay the prayer and that's not that makes sense. You are in control of your own scenario. And as long as you can stay awake then you should delay the prayer as much as you possibly can.

Okay, and again, as I said to you before that, to delay the prayer is something which is recommended only, whereas to attend the prayer

is obligatory according to Chateau Theremin and a number of scholars and even though it is what I consider to be pseudonym, aka demeaning, recommended, so now x is far stronger as similar to achieve than to actually pray the sun now the recommendation of delaying the process.

Okay.

I think the next point that we will do

in Malaysia is the enemy of Rama cansado.

And check with him and just close up the issue. And he says it's clear that the author himself considers that the prayer is permissible, obviously, until a third of the night has passed. And that, of course, is the humbling position. Shadow theming doesn't massively criticize this position. But he does also indicate and emphasize that, you know, I do believe that the correct position is that it is until midnight, you the language of check with him is very important to focus on here. He does not say what he could have, which is to say, but actually I don't believe that the prayer itself should. I don't I believe that the prayers invalid after midnight. He doesn't actually stay

That he didn't actually come out one one time and say that so he's clear that Yeah. And he he reckoned he respects and he recognizes that a person will might follow that position and he's not going to say your prayers invalid but him at the personal level he considers that the that midnight is the end time. Then the chef says, what really he walked me through? Okay, then that what follows after that Now, of course, the humble is now speaking. So they've already continued his shoulder and sofa job. So he goes, then what continues is that then what follows is the fudge of time and that goes up until sun rise. Okay. Now the problem here, of course, is that the chef, Chef of the mean,

says that also, he didn't actually mention which was which photo.

Because

he didn't say that is it's until the digital Oh, what Oh, is it the budget assignee. And of course, we know that he means the budget assignee. Okay, that it means a second fudge up itself.

Share what they mean, he is now going to try and define how long it lasts. I think this is really interesting to focus on. Because again, as I said to you before, he's speaking about God, which is very equitorial, very, very stable. And the prayer time is pretty much gonna remain the same for the rest of the whole the whole year. And he actually says that in our time, it's the only difference it differs, but basically, federal will last between an hour an hour and a half. And if you haven't gone to Morocco, Medina, and Amara, and so on, you'll see that that's the case, that once fudger kicks in, in next to no time is super bright outside, and then sunrise is kicking in as well. So

they have a really, really short one in the West Do you generally get it from about an hour and up?

I did shortest time, an hour and a half. But normally around an hour 45 and so on. I don't like to pray fudge out any, any time of the before an hour 45. Before Sunrise, I always like to see a good level of brightness. And so my preferred kind of earliest, earliest time is an hour and a half. And I think that the congregational time is like an hour is really really good.

I think you can maybe hear

Yeah, I don't know if you can hear there's a huge freight train Mashallah, which is, which is passing by and we saw one of these earlier on, without any exaggeration, the train looks like I think it's about like two miles long. I know you're thinking that's mental. And that's like a, like, exaggerated statement. But we are talking, I don't know, two 300 containers will be behind that train. And you know how long the shipping containers it's absolutely an I am and how that thing is pulling the all those

containers.

As you can see, to see, I think even in this video, I think that you would have noticed is coming on the screen as the amount of light that's disappearing slowly and slowly.

As power is amazing, the concept of light, or maybe you can actually see in the background, how the as the sun hits different areas, the lighting changes, okay.

chakras. I mean, there's something which I really wanted to talk about, I find it really interesting.

There's a theory, remember that diagram that I showed you guys about the fact that there is a look at the horizon. And then the sun kind of you know, there's a solar elevation angle, and the solar elevation angle basically is is that at a certain degree, when the sun comes up, then the Twilight will appear on the horizon. And that's the startle factor. And that might be 13 degrees, 15 degrees, 17 degrees, whatever you're arguing, okay, remember, go back to those lessons. Okay, when you're listening to me now, go back and check that diagram. So if you look at that elevation angle, you'll see that the light appears on the on the horizon. And that length of time, all right, is the time

that you have to pray fudge, because then the sun will then come up the horizon, that's the end of it. Now, if you think about it, especially if you look at that line and diagram, that would mean that the reverse should be the same. So as soon as the sun sets, and then it starts to go further, you know, the movements of the Sun and Earth means that it goes below the horizon below, below below, and it keeps going below. And I said to you that at a certain degree, at a certain degree, it will go so low that so low underneath the horizon, that the light in the sky will disappear. And the darkness will set in.

The idea is, is that if you look at that actually, rationally, then you'd think that that that is the same.

So the amount of time it takes for light to appear on the sky, on the horizon,

is the same as the amount of time it takes for all of that sunlight to disappear from the horizon. hope that makes sense. In other words, that their time for fudger is the time the same as a time for marketing. So because we know that mercury blasts from sunset until the Twilight, Twilight disappears, and we said before that the sun sunrise, the budget budget is from dawn until sunrise. So it might actually make logical sense that the prayer that the

the the prayer itself is of an equal time. As you can see here.

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oh, yeah, I was saying that the that logically if you think about it, the two time lengths, the time to pray for a job and the time for marketing Venetia should be the same. Between the between macro Russia and the federal and shaquil Islam said That's incorrect. In fact, this is completely wrong, that the two prayer times are not the same. And he also found low when you think about it, it's a brief statement because in the West at the moment, okay.

At the moment, we kind of made them roughly the same, right? The fudge of time now, I personally would would not start praying until an hour and a half is left until sunrise or an hour 20. And I've already told you an hour 20 as well, I would wait before I pray a shot off the mothership. But that's more because of the summertime and the the issue of the lights and so on. The fact that there's persistent Twilight, as I told you before, and this time of the year, May June July August, those countries which are of a higher latitude, I know this is going to confuse people more people can say that for the 10th time. But at this time, the sun does not go low enough due to the

elevation angle because of the at this time of the year to actually create pure darkness. So we have that persistent darkness persistent light.

But at winter time is a good time to check this. If you look at winter time.

Your Isha will come in a lot earlier than the fact of prayer time the fudger prayer time will be longer than the Muslim Tisha time. I believe that you might Yanni consider that every time you look what you're potamia says he goes that even Tamia said that in wintertime, and this is speaking about Arab lands, so they're quite equitorial. quite stable. He said in wintertime, the budget is longer. And in the summertime, this budget is shorter. That's 100% correct, by the way, even in countries like this, okay. And when it comes to

that's what we see on it. And he goes that for the mother of time.

It's the exact opposite. So in the mother of time, the father time is shorter. And in the summertime, it's longer. And that's exactly what we see. So Paula, so I find out the answer kind of fascinating. Yeah, a lot.

So think about that.

What else isn't?

One thing which I found interesting is that he didn't mention a *load of them he didn't mention which is narrated by remember Timothy, that the promise of lies and them said that the fetcher the start, time and budget is a hammer on a muscle to not not not just an LBO done, Martha, Martha, okay, is when the whiteness starts to spread. Okay? The whiteness, horizontal whiteness albayalde. Matalan is the horizontal whiteness is that's the start time. And now of course refers to when the light breaks on the horizon. So you will see like, you know, whiteness on the horizon.

But as I mentioned before, and written about this before and explained until me and I'm blue in the face,

you want to see more than just white light, you want to see a little bit of color, and herbal stuff, the redness of this guide is headed this way. And there are a number of narrations in which has been generated. So we do want to see that redness as well. Okay.

And in terms of what time, so So again, I repeat, if you want to know the start time procedure, make sure that the light is on the horizon, it is not in the sky that it's getting brighter. It's not just white, but there's a little bit of color in it as well. That is not obviously always seen in miserable countries like ours, okay. But in countries where there is a bright sky and it's sunny, then you would consider to look for the redness as well. And then time of course is the sunrise and that's because of the Hadith of the lemon Amara as we mentioned before that is noted in Muslim and the crystallizer Lim said that the temperature is until sunrise jewelry shops by shops when the sun

rises.

And I think that's it she said the same to me. That's enough because I think he's hungry. And to be honest, not a bad idea. How long has it been so far? Too long fish is that

a lot what you don't want to

finish off this last point says

Well, he says, I don't know we're gonna just finish off this last point.

Because the only thing that we've got to say is and to delay the professor to predict future prime is beginning time is best at best at what you have available and shared with me and says that there's a number of evidences for this. Now listen to this because the first evidence is what we've already said from the Quran, cervical Hara to compete with one of the one with one another to do good deeds. And he also said we're sorry, a llama for tomorrow, be calm, and be quick to seek forgiveness from your Lord. And Sabu Ella McLaren Robbie come and compete with one another to get much better from your load. So clear clearly is competitiveness. There's a quickness there's a

there's a speed as a hurry up, and that's definitely correct. And I agree with him 100% there. He then said that the sooner is the second source of evidence the personalized lm he would pray the future prayer behind us when it was very dark, okay. hairless means when it very, very dark it says raised by Bukhari Muslim. We also know and other Hadees that Protoss alum he would windsurfing? How can we add a fragile jelly so that the process alone would only end we're only finished from the prayer when a person could actually tell who is standing next to meaning that when they were starting the prayer and the prayer line, they don't know who to stand next to because it's too dark.

Remember, there's no artificial lights, no electricity. So when they finish the parade is enough sunlight now coming in to Twilight, sorry, that's coming into the masjid, which allows someone to see so they start when they're not when is dark, and the promise of lies lm would recite about between 60 to 100 verses. The other hand is by the way about?

Yeah, so this is same How do you think they would recite maybe between 60 to 100 verses? So what Let me say that again. The first lesson was thought pleasure Part one is Doc, it was to Dr. Toe the guy next to you, and he would start and he would when he finishes then the person is is possible to be seen. And this is between 60 to 100 verses long. And his head is also rated Bible hiding and Muslim and the promise of lies Allah Makarov, Li Salim moratalla he would recite tequila. Yeah. And he would Yanni would walk them in silence. I like this not only very, very quickly, so slowly and beautifully, and he would stop yucca yucca in Morocco, it was so good about Christopher Sala. And he

would stop at every eye he wouldn't only you know, say Paula harden Allahu

Allah, he would not only join the verses before, but who Allah who had Allah who saw him as if he would stop at every single verse, Then add all the reports to Jude, you got quite a long prayer 100 verses along the Aeneas along.

And then the chef, Chef with me and he says that's also we know that a person is usually a Caldera, we don't know what a person is going to happen to what's going to happen to him if he doesn't fulfill the obligations. And so therefore, generally, you should always try to

you know, try and pray you'll do your obligations as soon as you're, you know, you're able to do them something that happened to you, that might block you from being able to do your obligations. Some emergency might happen, I thought it as he said, that would then prevent him. May I'm now home and fitness Allah, Armand Kamali, herby moto Moto, hebs, O'Hara's Alec, and it was some time comes Something happened, which will make your prayer the unimportant not as great quality, so you should always do it. And then he makes it very expensive, important point, the Hanafi school is very strong on this point, he goes that there are some people who say that the press should be delayed and of

course 100 priests are in many other scholars are why because the heads and the head he says as futile but especially for no album, little God calm. don't pray the future when it's more bright outside when it's more yellow, outside meaning yellow meaning that there's more Twilight in the sun is coming close, where there's more light outside, because that will be more greater for your rewards, there will be greater in rewards, as if it's heading towards authentic festival. So he's trying to indicate that the head is probably could be weak. And actually the Hadeeth has been rated by him and my Buddha would had his number 424. And by him I'm gonna say as well and by him I'm a

Timothy and Timothy is 154. And Hades was considered to be authentic, why am I tirmidhi and even if you ban and even Tamia, also authenticated as Hades and also as a lady also consider this headings to be authentic. And I also as a lady, of course, is the great defender of the Hanafi school and he said consider this editor authentic. I also hold this headings to be authentic. I can't see any reason why this hadith is weak. So check that mean basically is saying that if this hadith is authentic, which which you know, which you wish it is, then what the meaning of US Federal federal means is that make sure that you pray the federal when is definitely fudger. All right, see the

hanafis will say that that means to pray when is like light outside when it's yellow outside, whereas the other day, they will say that no, because the majority do consider budgets to be so not when it's dark, because the evidence is emanating from Buhari and the fact that the general evidence as I mentioned, you should always remember to do good deeds. They said that as Pharaoh is the same thing that I do. For example, in my Masjid, I am not happy with the fact that we prefer to write under time when it's not clear. I told you all

night you have a persistent Twilight. And there are people who are praying one hour, 45 minutes or one hour and a half before sunrise. And I'm saying to them, well look outside tell me the difference between this and two hours ago, can you tell the difference? They say no, we can't tell the difference. So I said, Well wait, then, if you wait another half hours, I know one hour before sunrise. Okay, wait another half hour. And now we've got one hour left until sunrise. You look outside and it's lighter, more yellow, more brighter, and it's more certain that the press actually started. So this is the meaning of the headings and this actually has been narrated from some of the

companions as well. But likewise other some other companions like well, they

are women cabin so on. They say that Holly is what is to consider that no, it actually means 10 wheels, it actually means that the light in the sky does become very, very bright, much much brighter. So there is a valid color on this. And so it's not a problem. If you're going to say to me listen my Hanafi mustard because not a lot of people ask this question. I pray in a mustard which is a Hanafi mustard, Deobandi mushy bread or mustard, whatever it is, and they pray there for the press. So late when I go there is like is the whole time it was exaggerating, was disengaged. And but you know what, that's not a problem as long as it's not sunrise, then it's acceptable. The

Jamaat or the congregation is more important than the difference over this issue is a valid difference of opinion. If you can encourage them to pray earlier, one is more darker, as sooner but actually, it's acceptable. This is a valid difference of opinion. But in our opinion, the Hadees does not mean that is bright outside, it means is brighter, is more certain. It's absolutely no doubt then that actually a person is going to be praying for time finally then to conclude the prayer times and that's the end of the prime times. Check with him. He mentioned something nice. He goes, is there any wisdom behind these prayer times itself and why? Why are we praying a prayer at

these times? He goes as he goes, then this has come to the heart has is a sorry, beg your pardon? Well, to pray a bunch of time is a is a mighty thing because the night has been dark for a long period of time and darkness is not seen as a positive thing. Allah subhanaw taala says in suits of us something very, very interested in quite a tune in Jana la la cama Leela, sir muda. Okay, la Yeoman Akiyama.

Allah subhanaw taala says that have you seen? Have you considered what if Allah subhanaw taala would make the night everlasting for you until the day of judgment?

Manila en la, at home? biglia who is the who is a God that will bring light to you other than Allah, Allah, Allah, this is why this is awesome. What life Think about it. I lost contact has been saying Have you actually thought about it if I lost sight of what everlasting darkness upon you? Who is the who other than he is going to be able to bring you light? So Chapin every night that we go to sleep is darkness when you mentioned he woke up and was darkness next? there was darkness and not just six months in Arctic, but it was permanently dark. You'd be worried scared? Yeah. And he freaked out.

And you can't get anything done.

Last night and we tried to do a barbecue in the nighttime it was the world's biggest disaster ever. I have to say she said hello to Allah wa. He was a very valiant valiant Jani, noble soldier and he tried his very best, but it was a disaster. While I was talking with iPhone like man, he couldn't see what is cooked all the way through food was good while I was good. But so difficult. I want to give a shout out to Murali by the way. Alan Murali is

Admiralty has been chose this location here. And has gone through the thing. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. See, we've included some people. Everyone's getting tired. Even the people around us the Sangha plasma read enough. We want to go through the we're going to go through the picture.

I'm going to finish this point, she has made me focus. I'm just saying the margins panel if it was darkness all the time, unless it brings the line. Okay. And so so what we said was to celebrate that, that that port, but that amazing, incredible thing that we have lights and hope and optimism of the darkness, then we pray at that time, as well how to check says that. This is whence upon law without the entire direction of this unchanging so is one direction and the shadows one direction. And then suddenly the shadow goes the other side and the direction changes the other side. And is in recognition of recognition of that. He goes as well. Also, he goes that I I thought about it, and I

couldn't find a reason for it. I hikma about so that's when I started something that's

that I can say definitely. That's the reason why Well, that's a great wisdom in default in the US of time, or that we pride ourselves time.

And he goes, there's no doubt that there's wisdom in it, but I can't think of it. I mean, I thought about it. I mean, it's something which really is a time of day where people get a bit lazy, I don't know. And it's something which maybe it's a reminder for us that our day is about a bother. But it's difficult to state that these are not of course we're not saying this is the reason why a lot did it. We're talking human wisdoms. Why we can maybe think of a possible reason for slaughter McRib. shamans is obviously clear. That same especial Allah subhanaw taala gave us continuous light but then to show them the change. The sun mighty sun disappears. It's a great act of incredible power.

I started doing worship and as a result of that,

but we don't do at the exact moment and like the pagans do, because then that would then be given the power to the sun itself. Rather we're giving the power to the one who controls the sun, so not to shine, he says it's like Yanni.

It says like a stronger issue than the sun's just setting. It is complete onset of darkness and to appreciate that that power, who are eliminating it laulima, Adele and I come up with a dirty lens of a gel, Hekmati. He, it's really it's a sign of a loss process, which indicates his power, and his might, and his wisdom. And the loss proton knows best, this is one of the best lessons over that I think that's the only show that will agree the content was worth a look at that. We and if you're bored of the brick wall, and you're bored of our, our, our wooden planks here and there, then you know today Mashallah you got the full behavior, as well as my witness, I don't think that you're

going to see anything like that ever again. But this is the father of Allah. Allah, His mercy is immense, that Allah, Allah gave us opportunity to come out and take a break from a busy teaching schedule, which has also been very busy being attending conferences and working. And so we've had a few days to ourselves. And last week, we had an opportunity to go to Niagara Falls was very nice. And then I taught dominion, of course, in three cities, that was very tiring. And then this week, we're doing a little road trip before the law, which was the natural progression in Ontario, the great team then Concordia, and this week in Sharla, we're going to be

back in Montreal and teaching practice house, of course, was one of my favorite classes. Next

Next week, Yes, correct. The next next next week, we're back in Cheadle. normal time between Robin and Shana is late but it doesn't matter. So the one on one lesson that's it, I think second of June 1 of June, I think it is Wednesday. And that will be the last lesson and we'll do some q&a in that session there in sha Allah, if anyone has some issues about the prayer time and to some issues and whatever. And I want to give a shout out to Allah Murali who sort of found this location sick his location ever shot as well mccravy and keeping it real as always and supporting the brothers and sisters in the Dow and this voice and do we radio what oh my oh my oh my goodness. We've been staked

now just like that. So chronic along with Nick shadow I live in Atlanta stock for Oklahoma to like I said I want to have like a lot of cattle.