Approach to Religious Scriptures
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The importance of following higher scripture and rejecting manipulated hadiths is highlighted in the Bible. The title V AD is a mixture of the Bible and the V AD, and is the word of God. The speaker discusses common terms used in Christian scripture and warns against using "naughty words" in their opinion. The importance of following Christian scriptures and avoiding "naughty words" is emphasized.AI Generated Transcript ©
My name is Chaitanya Haridas.
By profession, I'm a lecturer
but I also do cross religious studies.
Actually, I prepared a question but that question
is not so relevant to the
topic today
and because this question was it with me
for many years. So so I'm going to
change the question that's relevant,
especially,
respected doctor Zakir. I've mentioned about the Vedas,
the Upanishad and all the some of
the Visho Upanishad.
But I like to quote quotation here from
Srinivas Baghavatham
10/23
chapter 11 text 35
which says
The meaning is in the beginning of the
first half of,
Brahma Kalpa where Lord Brahma appeared.
Then Brahma's
life there is a millennium called Brahma Kalpa.
The birth of Brahma
the the birth of Vedas was smelterless with
Brahma's birth. So here, it's mentioned that Lord
Brahma takes birth after birth
and the Vedas appeared when he take a
birth.
So in a based on the literatures,
L'Orealba's age, full age is
311,000,000,000,000
years.
And if we go in that calculation, I
think many of us here are bewildered.
But this is the quotation from
Another thing why I mentioned this because, doctor
Zakir have mentioned that the Vedas says that
the Lord don't have a form.
By the same Vedas also mentioned the Lord
have a form.
I have got the verse from Brahma Samita
Chapter 5 text number 1. It says. Ishwara
Paramakrishna
Sachidananda
Vikraha.
Anadir Adir Govinda
Sarvakarnam
Karanam.
That mean?
Sachit Ananda means eternal, peaceful, and full of
knowledge. So is it Sachit Ananda Vikraha?
Vikraha refers to the form. A transcendental form
which is given in the Vedas.
I think,
when we do a research on the particular
scriptures,
I prefer that we have a whole idea
that the Vedas also mentioned about the
the form. And I have many other quotes
which says that the the Lord have been
realized in different forms. Which Vedas are you
quoting, brother? This is.
Is not part of the Vedas. Vedas are
4. Rigved,
Yes. I agree with that. Right?
Is
the commentary by Brahma. Don't call commentary. Quote
the text.
If you follow the commentary of the Quran,
the commentary of Quran written by human beings,
you quote the text. As far as Vedas
are concerned, there were many Vedas. Today, there's
Rigved,
ajuru weight, some weight, atharma weight.
Yes, that we also have 4 Vedas. We
have also 18 pranas
under 8. Whether you use Under and 8
issue of Sir, you ask the question, let
me reply. Yeah. It is asked. You ask
the question, let me reply. Okay.
As far as the Hindu scriptures are concerned,
the Hindu scriptures are divided into 2 types.
And
Smriti.
Smriti
is considered to be the word of God.
Revelation from God. In it, you have the
Vedas.
You have the Upanishads.
Then you have the Smriti.
Smriti is considered to be written by human
beings. There, you have the ityas,
Ramayan,
Mahabharata.
Maghvad Gita is part of Mahabharata.
Then you have the Manusmithi.
So between the two scriptures,
the shruti is superior than the smriti.
If there is a clash between the shruti
and the smriti, you have to follow the
shruti, not the smriti. Because shruti is higher.
Same way with the Quran. We have the
Quran, then we have the hadith. If there
is a hadith, which is not Sahih, it
clashes with the Quran, then we keep the
hadith aside.
What we have to believe in Quran and
the Sahih hadith. Authentic saying of prophet Muhammad
Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam. There are certain things, which
people are manipulated.
So when such manipulated hadith comes, what we
do? We reject it. So now, I'm quoting
you, Veda, Veda is the highest.
No Spriti can go against the Veda. If
it goes against the Veda, we reject the
Spriti. We follow the Sruthi.
This I'm talking from Hindu scholars. As far
as the Vedas are concerned,
the Vedas speak if you read,
the founder of Arya Samach.
Correct?
In the Vedas, it only talks about God
work. God, no image.
I know there are other scriptures like Manu
Smriti
and it has in which it talks about
God having image. But the lower scripture cannot
overrule a higher scripture. When there is a
conflict, you have to follow the higher scripture.
That the reason I have quoted you Veda.
So if you get me a quotation from
any book which is a Smriti,
it cannot overrule
the. Point number 1. Point number 2. Even
if you get me quotation, if there's a
contradiction in the Veda, then why follow a
book which has contradiction?
You take out one contradiction in the Quran.
Quran says in Surah Nisa, chapter number 4,
verse number 82.
Quran.
Do they not consider the Quran with care?
That if there were contradictions in it,
it will never be from God. If there
is a contradiction,
then that book is not the word of
God.
You understand? So we as students of comparative
religion, what we have to do, I am
here to talk about similarities.
I know there are many things which are
differences
in Quran and the bible. Quran and the
veda. I'm here to promote peace and harmony,
not animosity.
Therefore, Quran says come to come in terms.
I asked you. I know there are many
things which I don't agree with the. I'm
not gonna tell you about that. Why? Because
that will create animosity.
So my thing what I told you, let
us agree to follow what is common. What
is different, we'll discuss tomorrow.
So let you and I agree if you
consider Veda to be word of God. I
consider Quran to be the word of God.
Let us agree to follow what is coming.
What is coming is 100% of the word
of God according to you and me. But
if you selectively don't follow passages of your
scriptures,
why be selective?
You tell me anything from the Quran,
which I don't follow, I will say sorry
and I'll start following. I don't claim to
be a very 100% Muslim, but alhamdulillah,
as far as what's my capacity, I try
and follow everything of the Quran.
You point out a single verse in the
Quran, whether you believe the Quran in the
word of God or not. You point out
a verse that inshallah will fall. The same
way when I'm doing the same thing with
the bible, with the Vedas. If the Christian
believe the bible to be the word of
God. If the Hindu believe the Vedas to
be the word of God. You have to
follow.
I know there are contradictions,
but I'm not here to talk about the
negative point of the scripture.
I challenge anyone to point out a single
contradiction in the Quran. There is none
as far as the age of the Vedas
concerned. According to Swami,
the Vedas is 1,310,000,000
years old.
But the majority of the scholars today of
Hinduism say, the is approximately 4000 years old.
Today, the scholars say we don't know to
whom the was revealed. In which part of
the world it came.
There are differences.
Quran, everything is authentic.
Yet the scholars believe
even though we don't know what is the
exact age of the Veda. Even though we
don't know where and which part of the
world came the first time, even though we
don't know which stage it came to. Yet,
the Hindus as a whole, they believe
to be the most sacred. Because they believe,
I respect it. I may not agree everything
of it. Because I respect, I try and
take out the commonalities.
So as I told you, Vedas talk about
of that God, there are no images.
Talk about that. Vedas talk about that. So
if you get me a scripture which is
lower, does not contradict, it cannot overrule the
Vedas. And if you tell me that there
are verses in the way they're talking about,
then there's a contradiction.
So you as a Hindu,
you have to try and find out why
this contradiction is there. No book of almighty
God, if it's in its true form, can
have any contradiction.
Same thing, we believe
Quran mentioned injeel, the which was given to
is the word of God. But the present
bible,
I can point out 100 of contradiction.
I don't wanna do it. I know I'm
not going to compare religion. So what I
say the present Bible is not 100% the
word of God. It's a mixture. It contain
the word of God.
It even contain the word of the prophets.
It even contained the word of the historians.
It even contains pornography.
I'm sorry to say that. It contains obscene
things.
So me, as a student of comparative religion,
I'm not here to criticize the bible. I'm
talking about commonality. Let's come to common terms.
If I try and criticize, that will be
animosity.
There are certain passage of the bible I
cannot read to you. Even if you give
me a $1,000,000,
I cannot read.
Even if you give me a 1,000,000 US
dollars to me and say read this passage
in front of the audience, I cannot.
Because my religion doesn't allow to read obscene
things in front of the audience. You understand?
No? But I'm not here to degrade the
bible.
I'm talking about common things.
Same thing with the Hindu scripture. As far
as the Quran is concerned, the language of
the Quran is so sublime.
You can read anywhere in the world. You
can read to your wife. You can read
to your children. You can read to your
father. But certain passage of the bible, I
cannot.
So here, whether I've come for communal harmony.
And based on that, I have done research
on the Hindu scriptures, on the Jewish scriptures,
on the Christian scriptures.
Unfortunately,
people of most of the religions, they blindly
follow what is mentioned by the church, what
is mentioned by the temple. What we have
to do is we have to ask them
for proof.
So that's the reason what doctor Zakir Naik
says in Islam is
0. Chapter number 1. If I say alcohol
is private, it carries no weight. Allah says
in Surah Maidah, chapter number 5 verse number
90, alcohol is private.
So based on this, brother, I am trying
to get the Hindus, the Christians, the Jews,
the Muslims together to come on a common
platform and at least agree
to follow what is common in the scriptures
so that universal will increase. Hope that answers
the question.
Doctor Zakir, I think you're limiting the knowledge
that is in the Vedas.
Vedas contain all the knowledge. That is what
Vedas mean.
So if you think I only take the
Smriti, not the Smriti.
So that is limiting because in the,
the way that we are taught. Okay. We
are I'm saying,
there's not one word in the Vedas say
Hinduism.
So but only if we talk about Hinduism.
Hinduism comes in the few 1000 years ago.
Only words there is anatan Dharma.
So I'm I remember you asking question, I'll
reply. But every question requires an answer which
takes few minutes. I'm not saying don't follow
Smriti, but if there's a contradiction between the
Smriti and the Shruti, the Shruti carries more
weight. For example, you go to a doctor
who's a specialist, heart specialist.
Who's done DM in cardiology.
And a general physician, MBBS, who's talking about
heart. Who will you believe? Suppose a mother
has a heart attack. After MBBS MD, after
MD is DM. He's DM in cardiology. Will
you follow him or will you follow MBBS
doctor for heart specialty?
Suppose a mother has a heart attack, who
will you follow?
The one I have faith with. Sorry? When
you have faith with, who will have faith
more? As a logical person? A DM of
heart specialty or MBBL doctor?
You want the person can have higher, No.
No. Not can. If you don't know both
of them. I know why he's had no
experience. But you have 2 people. You have
come first time to a country and one
as DM, one as MBBS. Who will you
take your mother to?
Don't have a d. Correct. So similarly, when
there's a contradiction between Shruti and Smriti,
you have to follow. That's what the Hindu
scholars say.
Anywhere in the world. So you have to
tell, Hindu scholars are wrong.
Now now coming coming to your word. Every
time you're asking a new thing, I have
to clarify. You said the word Hinduism is
not there in the Hindu scriptures. Correct?
In his book Discovery of India. He says
the word Hinduism
is not there in any Indian literature until
the Arabs came to India. This word Hindu
was given by the Arabs.
The Arabs gave the word Hindu to the
people who live in the land of the
Indus. Even today when I go to Saudi,
they call me Hindi. Hindi. Hindi. So Hindu
is a geographical definition.
The word Hindu was given by the Arabs.
People living in the land of Indus. So
Hindu is a geographical definition
for the people living in the land of
the Indus Valley. By geographical definition, I'm Hindu.
By geographical definition, I'm a Hindu and a
Muslim.
Indian Muslim, Hindu Muslim. But if you say
Hindu,
means those who believe in worshiping idols are
not Hindu.
According to Swami,
Hinduism is a misnomer. The right word should
be Vedantist.
Because they follow the Vedas.
Hinduism is a misnomer.
It was a word, a title given by
the Arabs when they came to India. And
today also they're stuck on. Even today when
I go to Saudi, they call me Hindi,
Hindi.
Yes. I'm a Hindi,
and I'm proud to be a Hindi, but
I don't believe in doing idol worship.
So coming to Hinduism,
this is a misnomer. The right word is
Vedantist or can
be I agree with you. And
believe that God is 1 and God has
got no images.
Show me one person who's a pure follower
of who says that God has got image.
That means you have not studied.
Have you studied?
I'm still studying. That's why I say Still
studying. Yeah. You are yet studying. You have
not passed MBBS also yet. Right. You have
not passed MBBS also. Quran says Quran says
in chapter number 16 verse 43.
And chapter number 21 verse number 7.
If you don't know, either person is an
expert. So I hope that answers the question.
But for next question, we can go behind
you, brother.
you, brother.