Yasir Qadhi – The term Sunni Islam, pants beneath ankles Q&A #5

Yasir Qadhi
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the use of "has been used" in Islam, including the term "has been used" in the title of Islam. They stress the importance of the Sunless wordantsants" and the use of "hammo" in the context of "hammo" and the need to educate oneself and avoid violence. The discussion also touches on the confusion surrounding " pest apocalypse" and the use of " pest apocalypse" as a term for extreme behavior. The segment also touches on the controversial stance of political parties on reducing the use of handkerchiefs, with some parties having a history of using them, but the current political parties have not. The segment also mentions a module on the Halacha Jo intention and the upcoming video.
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Smilla Rahmanir Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa salatu salam ala Sayidina Muhammad Ali or sorbets, Reina McBride as usual on Tuesdays we have an open q&a. The first question that we have somebody emailed and said that you have used this term Sunni Islam for many times in your lectures, don't you think this term is divisive? Why don't we just say Islam or Muslims? Why do you use the term Sunni? And this is a very valid question. A lot of people ask this question often and they are inshallah very well intentioned they want to bring about unity in the OMA. And they feel why do we have to have all of these divisions and we say I say I sympathize with your sentiment. But whether I

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use the term or not, these divisions exist in the Ummah, and my usage or non usage will not change the fact that different Muslims have different understandings of Islam. So, we are not using the term Sunni as a proper noun, we're using it as an adjective. We have one proper noun, Allah says in the Quran, who was sama Qumran Muslim in Amman, Kabul Wolfie had, he is the one that has called you Muslims, before from the time of Ibrahim, and now in the time of Muhammad, Salah is seldom the name that we have as a religion is Islam. We are Muslims. Now, within Islam, we would like there to be one interpretation and correct interpretation. But from the time of the Sahaba differences occurred,

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the first Splinter movement to break away and have a different understanding of Islam was the group that is now called the hottie dice but they weren't called 100 dice back then. At that time, they were called hoorah. Hoorah. Yeah, they were called. So they had a different understanding of Islam. And they said, for example, that we will not accept sunnah we're only going to accept the Quran this was one of their main points. So for example, when Allah says in the Quran was Saudi for Saudi or to faculty of IDEA Houma, the thief cut off his hand. The Sunnah tells us that the hand when all the conditions are met, is cut off at the wrist, but the Arabic word yet means anything. So when the

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hostage is stole, they would cut off the hand from here, because the Quran says cut off the limb, and yet in Arabic, yet can be anything. So because they didn't take the Sunnah as their source, they had a very different understanding of the Sharia because they said we're not going to accept Hadith. Generally, they rejected Hadith that was the 100 days of old. So the point being this Splinter occurred in the time of the late Sahaba. After the assassination of ideology alone, as you're aware, that's the whole issue that happened as well in the time of the late Sahaba. Other deviations began to reject other the kajaria were called they rejected other they said there is no such thing as

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predestination we don't believe in Kedah, so they will call the Kataria diaries of Carter. And another group came along and they said actions are not a part of iman, neurology. I'm Rana Illa Allah, we will delay our affairs to Allah. So they will call the delay as the Moto G. This is also in the late Sahaba time. And then the difference between the Sunni and the Shia I came along this came along after Karbala, so none of the Sahaba were really involved in that but to have your own time it came along. So they call themselves Shia out to the the supporters of it, and then it was dropped, and they now call themselves Shia. So the point being that these terms have existed from

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the time of the Sahaba and Tabby rune and we have to somehow characterize whether you like it or not, there are different understandings of Islam. So what do we do? How do I explain well, according to this understanding, you can say according to those who respect the Sunnah, sorry, who accept the Sunnah, and respect the Sahaba and affirm further and you list all of the points of Sunni Islam. Or you can say according to Sunni Islam, which of the two number one number two, the term itself where do we get it from? It is a term that is found in the Sunnah itself.

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It's not something that is invented by outsiders. And that is why the first person to use this term that we know for sure as a full term is none other than Ibn Abbas or the Allahu Taala and even Abbas in the verse in the Quran. Yo Mata BL BuJo. Notice what do we do on that day, certain faces will be bright, certain faces will be cloudy, Ibn Abbas said, the people of Allah Sunnah wal Jamaah their faces will be bright. And the people who rejected the Sunnah and they fell into deviation. He meant the Hardy dice because at that time, the hydrogens were fanatical, fanatic group. They were murderers and killers. And again later on we'll have longer lectures but I have said this bluntly

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and I stand by this if you study how they died history, ISIS is a manifestation of hostages and this is what how the Giants were killing Muslims. Everybody is a Catholic unless you're with our interpret

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datian my way or not just the highway but the grave my way we will kill you. And they kill more Muslims than and and the same fanaticism that we find in these groups goes back as our Prophet system said there will always be this group hybridize there will always be coming out and forth until the gel comes. And in one Hadith, he said, and they will then fight on the side of the jungle. Pause your footnote, we see our oh the villa with the villa evil scholars to another time still justifying tyranny and whatnot, you know, on the side of the thoughts of our time. Don't be surprised that you're going to find on the side of the judge himself. When that happens. We ask

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Allah zoafia The point being that the term Asuna Wajima. Where did it come from Ibn Abbas? Where did Ibn Abbas come? Did you do you think he pulled it out of his pocket? He turned his goofy turban upside down and pulled it out? Not out of his hat but out of his turban? Where did he get it from? It is found in the Hadith itself. Our Prophet system said you will see a lot of empty laugh after Id IDI you will see a lot of if they laugh after I die. So this hadith of Buddha would finally come be Suniti then I command you to follow my sunnah. And the Sunnah of the rightly guided Hola. In another Hadith reported into me the our Prophet says that I'm said that my ummah will divide into many

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groups. 73 he said. They said, Yeah rasool Allah which one should we follow? He said, Al Gemma, follow the GEMA what is the gem I mean, it has many meanings number one, it means this is the primary meaning of Gemma the bulk of the Ummah follow them. Follow the bulk of the L Gemma means the group follow the group number two Gemma means the Sahaba they are the main Gemma as the Sahaba follow the Sahaba Okay, and there are other interpretations as well The point being so in this hadith, he said follow the GMR and the other had Theseus is follow the Sunnah. So we take this hadith we take that hadith and we get the term what the people of the Sunnah and Gemma, we got it

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straight from the Hadith of the processing and SubhanAllah. From the earliest of Islam, the main splinter groups that formed they rejected Hadith, the Howard is rejected Hadith, the Moto G rejected Hadith Kataria rejected Hadith, and then those who supported Ali or should say they claim to support Ali and my more academic lecture detail that I give online, you'll find it I say in reality, we are the true supporters of ally. We are the real supporters of ally. That group is saying they are supporters. They are not the real supporters of it to the Allah one. But the point being those who claim to be on the side of ally and the partisans of ally. They don't follow the Sunnah, do they?

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Their second source? Is that what the Imams say for us? What is our source the Quran and the Sunnah for them? What is their source, the Quran and the Imams? So we have a fundamental difference and that difference is what sunnah. So the main point of difference between our interpretation of Islam is that for us, the Sunnah is a necessary source. You cannot understand the Quran without the Sunnah. So we call ourselves Sunni. Now I understand an innocent Muslim says oh, we are using this term to be divisive. And you know what, at a certain level, I agree with you but

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it is possible for a correct Quranic term to be mis applied and used to divide the OMA so that what do you think about a term that is not in the Quran, it can be misused and applied. The fact that the term can be misused does not negate the validity of the term. For example, in the Quran, we have the term well hydrated and unsought correct. It's in the Quran. Right very explicit in the Quran. Allah azza wa jal mentions when will hygena will unsought Allah mentions well hydrated onslaught, these are Quranic terms, yes or no. Allah divided the Muslims into Mahajan Assad yes or no? Okay, what happened? And the return of the hustle of button will slug the Mona Phil cone began irritating and

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they said Let Regina Elin Medina Tila regenda Assuming * as *. And they began causing discord and they engineered something and what that is a long story and the more hydrocodone the more hydrocodone and the unsought two of their youth started fighting one of unsavoury wonder Mahajan, and one of them beat up the other which is what happens amongst teenagers and kids they're always you have to deal with it and you know this is testosterone coming out you have to calm them down that's the problem of our youth is common so we calmed them down they calm but they didn't calm down. Each one said he did this How dare and anger inflamed and the voice went out. Mohamed you

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don't come on sorry come and they lined up to have a fist fight amongst themselves. The prophets ism heard the commotion and he came out his face was angry like a Pullman grommet. This is the Romain this

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was the highest form of anger. They say his face was angry and he said, while I am still alive, while I am still alive, you are doing this. And he rebuked them a harsh rebuking and he calmed them down. And he said, leave this division. It is something that goes back to Jaya Helia. Now, the term Mahajan on solid character incorrect.

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What happened here? Was it used correctly? No. Do we negate Mahajan and Assad because it was used incorrectly? No. We simply use it correctly, or there fanatics that use the term to inspire hatred? Wallahi Yes, there are we correct that hatred. The term is not meant to inspire hatred. The term is not meant to make people uncomfortable or make them feel anything like that. The term is meant as a description we are describing when you ask me a question sometimes about advanced theology, I have to say, well, we Sunnis believe this so that you know that there are other interpretations? I obviously don't agree with those interpretations. But you know, what it is necessary to be educated,

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it's necessary to know what is the red line, very necessary. And I will be very frank amongst you and say, just because somebody disagrees doesn't make them a Kaffir. This is a very important point. Because the rest of the groups we said it many weeks ago, three, four or five weeks, we have forgotten now we've talked about the 773 groups. I said these groups are all Muslim groups. We're not talking about the groups outside of Islam. Those that the process of said are incorrect, misguided, he called them my own ma my own mobile divided into 73. These aren't the coffers, there are groups that are outside the fold of Islam, they are not within Islam, and I gave an example and

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the group that says there's a messenger after then it'd be so some they're not within Islam, they're not from the 73. So the 73 are within Islam. So it is important we educate ourselves not so that we agree, but so that we know our faith, number one, number two, if the opportunity arises, we call them to the truth and number three, so that we at least create a civil society you will hear from me very often listen, we need to learn to disagree without being angry or violent. What good does it do hola he My dear Muslim brothers and sisters look back home. The violence that takes place between the sects of Islam look back home, the anger the fanaticism, this is not from the Sunnah. It is not

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from the Sahaba themselves. And I'll give you the best example for this. The Hawa rage the ones who became so fanatical, the ones who became so crazed and they started killing people and whatnot. Before they were only talking they weren't acting that fanatical. I did have the Allahu unsent even Abbas to debate with them. And they had a big debate, a third of them came back to the truth and a two thirds remained as they were or it is said 1/3 remain two thirds is both rewriter founder basically a large amount remain over two 3000 people remain haughty giants they refuse to change their act either Now, this isn't an Islamic state this is hola Russia don't this isn't just a

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Khalifa of the OMA Weezer ambassadors or mum Luke's on vocals. This is Ali ibn Abi Talib Radi Allahu Allah

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4000 Muslims say we don't agree with your theology. We're not going to be Sunni. I highly doubt the Allahu Anhu said, There is nothing we can do. I cannot force you to believe like I believe I can open your heart and force you to be Sunni. I cannot force you. You go you live your lives you do as you want. He gave them freedom of interpretation in an ideal Islamic State. What do you think in the modern countries, we cannot give them freedom of interpretation. Wallahi think about it in an ideal Islamic State. Under the Holy Father rush, you don't really know the Allahu Anhu said to them. You are free to do as you please. We can't do anything other than talk to you. But don't harm the

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believers don't harm the believers. The Hermitage. They didn't stop at talking. They began to attack hijack. And then what was the last straw they massacre brutally. Mohamed Ibn Ahmad ibn Yasser Amara Binion's his son, and they took his wife who was pregnant with the villa slit her throat open, not through the belly, took the beverages gruesome fanatics, as you see these people burning in cages and massacring journalists exact same mentality thinking that they're defending Islam. This is their fanaticism. Same thing. So I did have the Alana couldn't let that go. You're disturbing civil order. So he fought them. But before that, what did he say? We have no right over you as long as you don't

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harm us. Subhanallah if this is in an ideal Islamic land, I mean, can you go and force people to accept your interpretation? As long as they're not violence as long as they have? You have the right to debate you have the right to argue you have the right to preach the truth. But if a group of people insist we're not going to accept your theology, what are you going to do?

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So the term Sunni is not meant to divide. It is meant merely to educate and to preach. Some people misuse it agreed some people incite violence, hate hatred agreed, we need to talk to them. And we need to make sure they don't do that. It doesn't negate the validity of the term to do have to long question. So on one more question, then we're done in shallow data. The second question we try to do miscellaneous for today. Second question will be 50. Maybe next week, we'll do methodology and whatnot. Next week. We'll try so this is a filthy question. And I got at least 10 questions of this nature in the last five weeks. So this needs to be done.

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And that is the issue of lowering the pants beneath the ankles. No exaggeration, at least 10 people have emailed me they want to know what is the Islamic ruling about lowering depends we need the ankles and this is a topic that needs to be discussed. There's no quote problem so inshallah I thought I would do it today. So let us go back to the Hadith. Our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said Manjaro Silva who jolla Allah Lam Jambo de la Hui les Hillman Kiama. Whoever lowers his job, out of pride. Allah will not look at him on Judgment Day. Whoever lowers his toe beneath the ankle. This is Val in Arabic it's called Allah will not look at him on Judgement Day. And our

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Prophet says that I'm also said that Allah azza wa jal that whatever is sorry, whatever is beneath the ankles is in the fire. Ma is phenomenal campaign for Pienaar whatever is beneath the ankles is in the fire. Now these are Hadith and more are found in pretty much all of the books of Hadith. Bihari Musa with the you mentioned it is found in there. So there is no difference of opinion amongst the OMA no empty laugh, that whoever lowers the garments out of pride Manjaro October who Koirala there is an adjective who yella Marilla which is out of boastfulness and arrogance, there is unanimous consensus amongst all the scholars of Islam. Whoever lowers that garment out of pride. It

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is a major sin imam of the hubby in his famous book the major sin he lists one of those numbers 37 or something to lower the garment out of pride. Pause your footnote, what is pride and garments and what does that got to be showing off? It's very simple. My dear brothers and sisters go back 1440 years go back 1440 years, cloth was scarce. The environment dirty and dusty across the globe by and large across the globe, not just in Arabia in Rome. What did they were? They were a garment Where did it go down to in China? What did they where they were along grow? Where did it go down to generally speaking, at that time and place out of common sense out of utility, the garments would go

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beneath the knees to lower than the knee is lower than the knees to above the ankle why? Because you do the roads dirty is gonna get filthy cloth is scarce. You don't want to get it dirty, why would you get a dirt you're going to step in puddles etc etc. Now, in every society people invent ways to show off their wealth

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in our times flashy cars is an example. Okay, you get that what is the name of the flashy car

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I was gonna say Bugatti but he's going down there okay.

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Not that anybody who gets a Bugatti is haram or whatnot for it. But I'm saying suppose somebody got a Lamborghini. They're driving through a parking lot. What is his goal?

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What's he want to do? Show off? I mean, this is arrogance. How did they have the Ferraris and the Boogaard is what did they do? Believe it or not one of the things they did was, I have so much wealth, I can flaunt it. I can show you how rich I am. I can wear my garment I have plenty at home. My Garmin is going to go beneath that is going to trail on the floor behind me and they will do that is going to trail behind me because I can go home and wear something else. Most of the Sahaba had one pair of clothes at max two or three hour process and had two main pairs of those one he wore for special occasion what not, may Allah forgive us for having 3040 50 May Allah forgive us but the

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point is that simplicity. Now how did you show off how did you show people I am filthy rich, you told them I have this garment and I can they could go underneath. So having a job or an izhar a lower garment that went to the floor that went below the ankle. It is an essential characteristic to show your wealth. There is no utility no function. Nobody does it. You are standing out of place and your mate

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To the point I am filthy rich, what are you going to do about it? So the Shediac came with simplicity with modesty, get rid of this feeling. And so there is unanimous consensus, whoever does it out of arrogance. Now, within a century, the money began to pour into the OMA within a century, the Sahaba later Sahaba lived much more comfortable life. That's why I should not be alarmed as she died 57 Hijra she would cry when food was presented in front of her, she would say we never saw this food at the time of the process. This was only four decades later, and she is now seeing a level of luxury that they didn't see before. Okay, some of the later tabular and whatnot, Abu Hanifa and

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whatnot, they're now living the life in Iraq, the Persian Empire has given them a lifestyle and the clothing and the garment money is no longer scarce. So what happened, the notion of having the pants below the ankle became antiquated, and people now had plenty to wear. And so people began to wear below the ankles. So from the earliest of time, many of the scholars said these ahaadeeth Apply, when a society has it such that lowering the garments is a sign of arrogance to be technical. So one Hadith mentions the term out of pride. Another Hadith doesn't mention the term out of pride, as simple as that whoever lowers the garment, you know that proportion will be gender? Do we take the

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out of pride in one Hadith? And we understand the other Hadith in light of it? The Arabic term is located in Makkah, yeah, that which is conditional, do you understand it? You know, that which is unconditional, you understand it? In light of the conditional, you have a hadith that is unconditional, whoever lowers the garment, you have a hadith that is conditional, whoever lowers the garment out of pride? Do we understand the unconditional in light of the conditional, the vast majority of fuqaha? And scholars have also said yes, of course, when a condition comes, another Hadith doesn't mention the condition, then obviously, that condition should be cut and pasted to the

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same prohibition. And therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, there is not unanimous consensus, but overwhelmingly throughout Islamic history, our scholars have said this prohibition does not apply to the one who does it out of culture, out of habit out of if his society is doing it, and there's no pride there. And they mentioned another Hadith also found in Behati, which is even more explicit. And that is when the Abu Bakr heard this. He said, Yeah, rasool Allah, sometimes I tie my garment but without my knowing it loosens, the process of didn't say it's okay, if it loosens, he said, listen to this, you are not of those who do it out of pride.

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Now, if he had said, Okay, it's no problem, you did it accidentally, that would have been a different interpretation, but he didn't, he said what you are not of those who do it out of pride. So, in a society like ours, where the concept of having a pant above the ankles and pride has nothing to do with one another. And in fact, this is now the global culture, then these are Hadith Therefore, do not apply in these cultures. Now if there was a culture where it applies, these are Hadith apply. And that is why there are so many narrations from the time of the Sahaba and the seller and the righteous ancestors that demonstrate this for example, Ibn Massoud or the Allah one

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he had

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she shins you know the shins that you know, but you know what the chins directions that are very thin and curved, and kids would make fun of him. In fact, this is a Hadith inside Behati about Eben Massoud that one day he climbed a tree to get some fruit and the other Sahaba they some of them, they laughed at the shins of Ibn Massoud. They were very thin and curvy, it's a deformation. The Prophet system said You are laughing at the shins of Ms. Rude Wallah, he they are heavier in the scales of Allah than the mountain of offered. This hadith is in body so the shins of abou of Ibn Masood were a little bit you know, you can say was a child yet whatever you want to call it COVID or

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whatnot, a bit embarrassing. So, once in Kufa, now money has come in now situation different his students saw even Mr. Rude with a garment all the way to the ankle. They said to him, aren't you the one who narrated to us that the garment shouldn't be below the ankle. So even Massoud said, I am a man who has this deformity. I'm a man that has these issues. The Arabic term crookedness, indigenous a specific term, I'm a man that has tensions now tell me if somebody laughs at you is that a reason that you can drink Shut up yes or no?

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If somebody is going to make fun of you if you don't drink Shut up, can you drink Shut up? No, because Shut up is what haram if lowering the garments had been haram or or

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They're teenagers say how long

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is it haram? Haram das me new term they invented if lowering the ankle the garment had been haram would even Massoud say oh people laugh at by shins. That's why yes or no. Do you see what I'm saying here? That's not the case. Right? So he allowed it as well. Abu Hanifa imam of the Imam of Abu Hanifa Shafi said all of mankind is dependent on Abu Hanifa Imam Shafi said this and NASA you don't either be Hanifa Abu Hanifa Masha Allah Allah bless Abu Hanifa with wealth you know, many of our scholars were not that wealthy but some of them Abu Hanifa Buhari Imam and Nyssa a Masha Allah was like a millionaire Yama does it so Allah bless some people mashallah with with with well but in the

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majority of our scholars were not wealthy mobile Hanifa was upper middle class, he would wear fine Yanni Persian garments, he was any you know, Persian living in airlock I would not say he would wear that and his garments typically would go beneath the ankle, one of his students said, Isn't this prohibited? And Abu Hanifa said, It is prohibited for the one who does so out of arrogance visible Hanifa and he himself had it low, a UVA CFTR they will have the great tab your own he died 136 hedgehogs, early early scholar. This is a beautiful quote. And he died 100 years after the Sahaba 130 140 Hegira. Very early on. What are you? Are you not a ubersexy? And are you busy if Danny had a

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garment made and he told his tailor, make the sleeves up until my wrists and make the garment length up until my ankles? One of his students said aren't we forbidden from this? Listen to what he answered. Or you basically it said once upon a time, it was considered showing off to lower the garments below the ankles. But in our time, it is showing off to raise the garments above the ankles.

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Meaning I'm sending the message I am more pious than you. I'm sending the message that I now this is his opinion. Don't quote me on this. I'm just quoting you what he said. Right? I'm not stuck for Allah impugning anybody who thinks they're following the Sunnah. By doing that, I believe you're sincere. But Ubisoft then is talking about 100 years after the death of the Prophet him and he's saying what, once upon a time, lowering the ankles was a sign of showing off in my generation to raise it higher and higher when everybody has it low. That is the one that is being different from the crowd. So he had the exact opposite mentality, the point being in a nutshell, the formula hip,

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the Hanafi mirth of the Shaeffer. He might have the humble the madhhab and the Maliki mme. And I have the quotes here and know where your romiley have been zero coronial badgebup. Kodama have been mostly even shareholders not even Tamia for those who look up to him. That strand of Islam, even Ibn Taymiyyah has this position, very explicit. It is not haram to lower the pants below the ankle for the one who is not doing it out of pride. And frankly, in this country and society, you cannot do it out of pride, you understand, you're not showing off. When you buy your Levi's jeans and it goes below the ankle, you're not showing off when you go to Taj a target, and you get your clothes and

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they go, you're not showing off. There is no showing off when your normal pants go below the ankle, and everybody has it. Right. So to tell the Muslims now, is there another opinion of course, there's always two opinions. There is a group of scholars who says this is always haram. And the scholars, frankly are in the minority in the grand scheme of things I have a long I have done research on this particular issue for many years because I face a group of people that are adamant that hadith says this, the Hadith says this and the response is very clear. That is your interpretation of the Hadith the hadith is clear. The same scholars Imam Abu Hanifa saw the same Hadith as your mama Shafi Imam

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Malik came out even to me they also the same Hadith. You're not the only one looking at the Hadith. The hadith is not speaking it's your interpretation of the Hadith. The hadith does not say anything, it's simply giving you these two things, what you derive from it, this is now your mind, I would rather stick with 99.9% of the OMA and I'm not exaggerating, 99.9% of the OMA literally go through who's who now are their scholars on the other side Wallahi there are I cannot deny that there are great aroma, I love them. I respect them. Many of them are my own teachers from sort of the that strand in particular that that modern strand, they are adamant that this is haram and it is a major

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sin. I love them. I respect them. Look at history. And look at what the great scholars have said and contrast with this group of modern scholars a modern opinion to be honest, it's a modern opinion that has now become mainstream in that in that you know, small segment it is not classical and if you follow it, which is our Calaca but give respect to the majority don't consider the majority to be deviant and evil and going to jahannam you follow your opinion I have no problem. Well, I have no problem. I'm not going to at all I will be law you will be

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Word for your sincerity. I have no doubt about that. But if you study and you study with the odema say, you will find this is not the interpretation of the vast majority of scholars, because the Hadith itself mentions Hajela arrogance and pride to say, as the other group says, arrogance and pride is one sin and doing it without arrogance and pride is another sin. That is the opinion that in Islamic history, maybe two or three people have held it pre modernity. And in modern times, it has become revived, and it's become mainstream in one group of Adama who think they're following the setup. But they said of themselves, I quoted you so many of them, and that's not the case that they

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have. So bottom line, this is Hadassah to hold the formaldehyde, all of them. This is the standard position that it is not a sin in the eyes of Allah if you do it, not out of arrogance, and it is impossible in North America to do that out of arrogance you you agree with that point at least that there's no such thing as lowering the garments out of arrogance per se that's not going to happen in your art that culture is going to require people in corporate America to take their suits and have them above

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Wallahi if the shady our that way we would do it to Allah He the shady I says don't drink we will not drink no matter what pressure is there. But when 99.9% of the OMA is saying something, then why do you have to make the religion so difficult and say your point zero 1% is the absolute correct if you really wish to follow witches aka Lachlan, no problem you're not going to find me that's your business, but have some respect for the majority of the Ummah that follows the majority position and with that Inshallah, we will conclude and continue next Tuesday tomorrow we have the Halacha Jojen module which is very, very interesting in sha Allah so we'll see you tomorrow for motivation

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