Library Chats – #6 – The Language (and Letter) of ض

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AI: Summary © The Arabic language is widely used and has a unique language similar to the use of "air," "will," and "will tree." The speakers discuss the use of "will tree" in different environments and the importance of keeping up-to-date with the language. They also touch on the topic of "verbal" and "monster" in Arabic language, as well as the use of "yeah," "monster" in English and the importance of keeping the Arabic language in the global standard. The conversation also touches on the controversy surrounding the pronunciation of the law and the importance of keeping it in writing.
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Miss min Hill was

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set out to LA he bought a car to 100 Adele Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah. Early he will be here woman Welcome aboard. So today in our library chat, it's my library and I'm allowed to chat in my library. I wanted to talk a little bit about the language of board or the Arabic language. And we are taught that the Arabic language is the most blessed and the most amazing language as for the fact that is the most blessed. That is, of course, the theological point. And we firmly believe it because Allah subhana wa Tada, chose to reveal the Quran in Arabic. And the fact that he chose to reveal his final revelation in Arabic automatically allows you to acquire a status of blessedness

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that is unique amongst all other languages. However, is it true to say that Arabic is the most eloquent or the most amazing language? Now, obviously, I am no linguist. And so anybody who wants to add other points, feel free to do so in the comments. But I do think that in a very brief study of

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the languages of the world, I think that a case can be made, that Arabic has certain special realities, that really does make it a very unique language in the, in the global family of languages. And that's not just empty speech, I would argue that Arabic has some key characteristics that even though some of them are found in other languages, firstly, the combination of all of these characteristics, and secondly, the extent to which each one of these characteristics is utilized, it is something that is unparalleled in any other language, I'm going to mention some of the points that come to mind first and foremost, what makes Arabic truly unique is the concept of air at all,

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but the concept of Arab. Now, of course, this is not going to be an intro to Arabic,

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grammar and Arabic morphology. It's something that inshallah, if you guys are interested in, you should find a teacher, and you should learn online or learn all of this stuff. But in a nutshell, what exactly is Arab, and again, I'm not defining it technically. And so I'm trying to explain to people who don't know what the outcome is, I have to always say this, because Allah has blessed me with certain people that are waiting for any slip up to go and correct or refute or whatnot. So I'm trying to explain it all to a person who doesn't understand what the outcome is. Yeah, love is the utilization of nouns and verbs and verbal nouns, in a manner that changing the Haddock or changing a

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particular letter will change its usage, this is called inclinations. To give you an example, in the Arabic sorry, in the English language, by and large, we don't incline anymore. But there are certain remnants that it used to exist and we're still they're still around in the English language, the most obvious of them is, I and me, and my and mine, these are four words, all of which have something to do with the person speaking, but when they are used, it depends on the context, right? So when you say I, you're the one doing, when you say me, then the verb is being done unto you, and you say, my, it's a possessive when you say mine, so each one of them it is a different context.

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Now, in Arabic, in Arabic, these, the the inclinations are demonstrated primarily in the Hata cat. And of course, obviously, in the verbs, it's also in the verb structure, was it Wow, are you are, yeah, or noon or whatever. But these inclinations are demonstrated in the last hodaka of the word typically. And simply by changing the hodaka. You change the functionality, you change the meaning, you change how the word is being used. And of course, there are many examples of this, that show that demonstrate this, this notion, and I'll give you some of the from the hold on that. Obviously the one that has the most interesting 50 ruling is the verse inserted into that when Allah speaks

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about will do Allah subhana wa tada says that he did an AMA with the ultimate authority for sudo would you How can ye do Camilla Mara 41 Sacco biru sequin, what are jus lecom lol carbene. Now one several biru sequin with the cursor because you have to wipe over the head and then we're out of July come now our Joe lakum the Lamb has a photo on it. And in some clarity Lamb has a casserole or Julie can depending on whether you say Fatah or Casa de the feet have to either be washed or wiped because if you say what are Judah comb, then it means that the feet are have to be washed completely. Because all you really when you stand up, wash your hands and faces and feet. Or if you

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say what are the Judy come wipe your head

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Your and your feet and so by changing the tower the castle up, you change the functionality of the word and of course in our shediac both are allowed you can wash or you can wipe over the feet if you're wearing your socks. So, this is an indication of when you change one letter, you change the functionality of the word also, why a particular word would occur in a particular place you can change the emphases so for example in the famous example vada is a do Nam run. So always say the nama always being used in every single in every single Arabic example of language and morphology and sort of and our teacher Dr. fabbro Haman Medina he would say that it is time that zaidan Amber's are

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mandatorily retired they have to go into authorities Valley we have to get rid of them because our students don't know how to make a functioning sentence. And to give an example except by bringing in the characters of zaidan Amma so we need to get rid of zeta nama. But anyway, Baba zaidan Umbra so say this then when an AMA is fatass so this means that Baba needs to hit and so zayde is doing the hitting to hammer if you switch it around and you say Baba is a then am rune. So automatically Amr is not doing the hitting and he is hitting zayde Why would you substitute the order in order to bring about different levels of emphasis? So for example, Allah says in the Quran, what exhibits

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Allah Ibrahima or boo we can imagine and recall when Ibrahim was tested by his Lord so what exhibited April Hema Rob boo who is doing the testing Allah is doing the testing who is being tested Ibrahim now, the fact that Ibrahim has mentioned first right? It is an indication we need to emphasize Ibrahim Eva tele being tested who is being tested Ibrahim, who is the one doing the testing or a boo so in this case, the subject meaning Allah sorry, the the one who is doing I should say that is Allah subhana wa tada is being mentioned after the object meaning the one that is being tested, because we want to emphasize here in this particular context, we want to emphasize the one

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being tested and that is Ibrahim in another verse in the Quran, Allah subhana wa tada says, In sha Allah, her Minar iva de Androulla Ooh, in sha Allah, her with a factor. And then in the end algorithm, ooh, with Obama in this verse. The the translation of it is that the only creation of a low who truly fears Allah subhana wa Tada, or the root Emma Lars would make us amongst this category of people. Now here in Nehemiah shala. Her So here, the term Allah, that of the gelada it has a photo on it, right? And obviously this means that if you study Arab and no, it means that the object of fear is Allah subhana wa tada who is doing the fearing and the rule of law. But why is there a

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limit placed at the end, because we want to bring emphases to Allah subhanho wa Taala. We don't want to emphasize over here that rude, Amma want to emphasize the object that is being feared, and that is Allah. And we can do this, even though in most other languages, you'd have to have a certain matter of doing it. Or you'd have to put awkward phrases to indicate who is the door and who is the one upon whom it is done in this language of Arabic. All you need to do is change the last letters in NEMA Yosh, Allah have been able to hear the rhythm, the rhythm, ooh, are they doing the harsher, they're the ones doing the fearing? Who are they doing it to they're doing it to Allah subhanho wa

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Taala. So the point is that this notion of Arab is something that of course, it exists in other languages, but the level that it exists in Arabic and the utility, how it is utilized, it is something that is truly makes Arabic very powerful, and very unique, that simply by changing the last hodaka. If you're doing one type of Europe, another type of era with verbs is obviously different. But simply by changing the last Hajduk up, you can change the entire eloquence the utility, the emphases, can be demonstrated simply by changing that last letter. And this is the notion of Iraq. The second thing that makes Arabic pretty unique amongst all the languages is the

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science of sort of the morphology and also each developer derivation. And so the concept of taking one three letter root and then transforming it based upon Of course templates that are well known, you can create you know, many different words you can conjugate from one route, you can conjugate many dozens, technically sometimes even many, I mean, technically, you can even have a chart that has over 100 something but rarely is one word conjugated that many times but the template exists for hundreds of conjugation. So the same three letter word you can basically permutated you can you can change it into different nouns, different verbs, different concepts, and therefore what this means

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is that if

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You learn one word, one three letter word, you don't actually learn one word you automatically or have access to maybe 100 words when you read them in a text. Now, of course, technically, you would not know which of those conjugations is allowed automatically because again, not every three letter word can be conjugated upon every single template. But see, imagine you have all of these templates, you know them because you're an Arabic speaker, and you learn a three letter word. Now you read a book, and you see that three letter word but not in its original three letters, you see it in one of those different conjugates you should automatically know what that word means, because the template

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is known, you come across it, you learned a new word, and you put the two together. And again to give you one simple example, that the word fight to have the word fight to have means to open up from the word fight to have you can derive many words such as for example the Conqueror, Al Fatiha so the man and Fatah because fetta means to open and so far, he opened up the city, he conquered the city, you can say of course mufe doing that which is open, you can say the tool that is used to open up which is miftah. So that the the noun that is the utilization of the verb so ie the tool or the instrument of the verb is something that you can conjugate from the verb itself. So miftah is a key

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because it opens up and you also have the can opener the Fatah have, which is the can opener, you have the place of opening the miftah have something that's open to the location is called miftah. You have the name of Allah Al Fatah, which is of course the one who opens up all barakat and all good So Allah is Al Fatah, you have the opening, in fact you have because it opens the Koran. In some cultures, the appetizers before you eat is called buffet the hat because there is the one the open up the meal with the the appetizers, some cultures and others there must be lots of it. But then we'll move on to the the appetizers as well, the verb as well, if that to have to begin

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something with military conquest for to f4 to hat. So the point is that the notion of one word, automatically giving you access to many dozens, if not 100, or more than 100 conjugates simply because the templates are all the same. Now, this is this is of course the science of salt. You can also of course in Arabic, it allows you to add specific letters to give different meanings. So if you add an F scene that is your you to add to any verb, you are asking for that verb so law is to forgive is still photo, you are asking for forgiveness, if you add a photo, if you add an endif in the second letter, then you mean the two people are doing this verb to one another. So katella means

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to, to fight to basically kill or to fight all together, the two of them are fighting one another, okay, we're in life at any minute minimum, we need to protect data, they are engaged in it actively. So the science of sort of morphology and also of course, conjugation is too often all of these sciences, they are found, of course, in in, in other languages. But the what the the manner that they exist in Arabic is again pretty interesting and unique. And I would say that once again, the utilization of these tools, even if it exists in some languages, I mean, by the way, in other languages, I studied German back in the day and my God, it's so complicated, and you can derive

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extremely difficult conjugates in Arabic, the template is pretty clear. And you basically take the three letter and then you derive the templates from that. So once again, the sciences of soft and natural and of course they still help as well, all of these are you they're not unique for Arabs, I'm not going to say that, but they the combination of both natural and soft, and the level that they're utilized, I would say this is unique in Arabic, and it brings about a level of eloquence that is rare to find, if not impossible to find in other languages, a third point can be added and that is that generally speaking Arabic words are relatively short. Again, compare this to German, oh

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my god. Turkish another example. I mean, you can have very, very long words. And generally speaking Arabic language maximum is you know, well of course the race, the base letter is three, you can have four, five, maybe even six rarely you'll have seven. And the maximum length of a pure Arabic word is seven letters, which is itself very rare. Four or five is you know the default six you know, but otherwise, you will not find a word that is extremely long. That is one word. Now obviously, we're talking about one word here, you can create a sentence and it will look like a word, a noisy makuha. For example, that is a sentence and by the way, that's another beauty of Arabic. I knew the zumo

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kumuha is one

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It's one continuous. It's not actually one word, but it is a continuous series of letters that are connected to one another. Under the Zulu command the Quran, it literally translates as a sentence. Do you think we are going to force you to do this to to force this upon you, right? Do you think we are going to force this something that is feminine upon you, all of this sentence is in one continuous series of letters in Arabic numerals, zimo Kumu Ha, ha, caribou. So the third point is that generally speaking, a word we're not talking about a sentence structure, a word is relatively short. In Arabic, you do not get long words in Arabic, unlike other languages, and again, look at

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even English, how many letters how many words are 910 11 1213 German is a horror, horrifying example. And even Turkish and others, they have very long words, Arabic is not like this. Another aspect of the Arabic language, which is without a doubt unique is the preservation of this language, because the Koran has gifted something to the Arabic language that no other language can claim. And that is that a number of things that have happened because of the Quran, first and foremost, the the the services that have been done to preserve the Arabic language to maintain the Arabic language to understand the Arabic language, this is unparalleled. The first dictionaries ever written in any

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language were Arabic, the first compilations of naho and grammar, again, Arabic because the people wanted to understand the Koran. And so 1000 you know, 400 years ago, 1300 years ago, people began deriving rules and deriving dictionary or compiling dictionaries, and compiling poetry, all of this was done so that they can understand the Koran. Another thing that the Quran has done is that the Quran has allowed the Arabic language to retain a classical standard globally, which is called the first half or the classical Arabic, no other language in the world has maintained a global universal standard, every language evolves with this is without question, every language morphs, every

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language organically breeds and grows. And all you need to do is look at the Arabic as is spoken amongst the actual out herbs that are alive today, every region speaks Arabic differently, because it has evolved so much. So that if you're a non Arab, like, you know, most of them I am and whatnot, sometimes it is difficult to understand some regional dialects because we are learning the classical, and then we learn the language of the you know, the people that we interact with. Now, obviously, if you are an Arab, you will interact with so many outcomes that a lot of times you will simply pick up their accents and whatnot. But the point is that you look at the evolution of Arabic

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accents and Arabic language in the actual lived Arab populations. And you see, like every language, it evolves, it goes forward, however, the standard force of Arabic has been maintained, and it is a global universal language. Now, truth be told it is a global universal language amongst the ulama, the average Arab

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will understand some or much depending on the culture they're lived in, because there are Arabic cultures that don't, you know, they don't emphasize that much. And there are other Arabic cultures that do emphasize first learning to the children. But the the whether they speak it or not, there is a global universal language of Arabic That is originally first half. And there is no other language that can claim that level of preservation. And the fact that it is still used a scholar in China can speak fluently a scholar of Islam can speak fluently with a chocolate scholar from America without any other they have that universal force, her language in common. And wherever I go in the world,

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and you meet an alum or whatnot, of course, you can speak to them when I visited China, actually, you know, I met, you know, people that have been trained locally, and they were able to speak to me in them and obviously wasn't the fluent Arabic that because they had been trained local, but still, they were able to speak to me in basic Arabic and and we could get our message across this level of preservation and of keeping a particular so for example, Shakespeare in English, nobody speaks in Shakespearean English anymore, and that English was only 500 years old. Imagine there there are millions of people still speaking the first half of the oroshi dialect as it was revealed 1400 years

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ago, and that is something that is unique. And therefore, the Arabic language is intertwined with the religious sciences even taymiyah has a really famous quote in his if that also was the theme. He says that for in the NFC logo turned out to be a minute Dean, when I refer to her for doing wajib. So the very concept of the Arabic language it is from the part of this religion and knowing Arabic language is followed. Then he says that, I don't mean followed by in some aspects are followed, and some aspects are followed. Keifa he's not saying that you have to learn Arabic, fluent.

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To be a Muslim, what he is saying is some aspects of Arabic are followed I in for example certified to have basic Koran basic Vicar doesn't matter what your background is you need to learn it in Arabic and recite it in Arabic in order to be a practicing Muslim. And then he goes others are photokey fire and he said that this goes back to a narration as well that clearly demonstrates that people need to understand Arabic And he mentioned that a woman said Sharia law the law of data and he was assigned the governorship of a region and Bob wrote to him that make sure you teach the people the Sunnah and make sure you teach the people the Arabic language and make sure they recite

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the Quran with Arab will it will Koran in the and recite the order on with the Arab meaning with the proper pronunciation and the proper end case letters because the Quran is an Arabic language. The point here is that he commanded a wizard he was a football who fill out that make sure that you teach the people that they should understand the Arabic language and they should read the Koran properly. Now by the way, some people claim that Arabic was the language of Adam and Arabic is going to be the language of jinn and all of this mythology the first language spoken with Arabic. All of this is is baseless obviously. And in fact there is a fabricated Hadith reported about Ronnie's

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torani of course the famous scholar died 360 he has a computer also tennis elite. And and also it is really meant to bring strange and bizarre narrations of Hadith. And in his all sorts he has a narration ahead with our little as the NLRB we'll put an Adobe will column agenda to our hobby that this is allegedly ahaadeeth allegedly I'm gonna explain that love the Arabs for three reasons. Number one, because I am Arabic, Arab, I am Arab. Number two, the Quran is in Arabic. And number three, the language of the people of Jenna is Arabic. And of course this narration is completely fabricated. Even though Josie says mobile. The hubby says I have no doubt or I'm certain that the

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Hadith is mobile. And everybody as well said it is mobile. So the headset is fabricated that the language of the people of gender is Arabic and also the language of Adam. Any there is no, it doesn't make sense to be honest, because language is evolved even Arabic. Yes, we have the Arabic of the Quran preserved and hamdulillah. We have preserved but it evolved before that point in time to get there. Now we have a snapshot of that language. And by and large, we have preserved it to a great extent not fully By the way, because a lot of words, we don't use them and whatnot. But still, by and large, that version of Arabic is still fairly consistently still utilized to this day. But to

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get to that version to that level, it had to undergo many hundreds of years to get there. It's not as if somebody began speaking Arabic one day just woke up and began speaking Arabic, the Arabic language like all languages developed and evolved. And by the time the Koran when the Quran was revealed that language of Arabic That was spoken, it was preserved more than any other preservation of any other language because of the Koran that is the point that I am mentioning. The final point I wanted to mention, spend a little bit of time on this, I found this a bit interesting and some talk has begun online as well. So I just wanted to shed some light on this, the notion of the letter

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board, the letter board of the Arabic language, that it is common to call the Arabic language lower to a board the lower of the letter board. And this is of course it goes back very early. The famous poets that will tend to be one of the greatest poets of the outdoors, one of the most eloquent and definitely somebody who

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let's just say, exuded

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a sense of confidence. Let's just say that, in one of his lines, he says that love you call me shoto shoto phobia that I am not honored because of my people rather My people are honored because of me. And I am taking pride in myself not because of my ancestors again Mashallah very confident man. And then he says would be him follow kulu wellbeing for coolamon nataka of board and that they are the people that they can find for their their heritage or their heritage or swallow their pride in all of those who spoke the board. So he is basically saying that the Arabs are the people who spoke the letter board he described Arabs as kulula nataka build bot that's the key point here that anybody

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who verbalized law, meaning what animal therapy is trying to say more than 1100 years ago under the ABA says the medieval earlier buses and whatever it is saying that Arabic is unique in its letter of board, and he's not the only one to say this, even to write this well. He said in Nevada the electoral board, it is not found in any language other than Arabic And of course in general

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infantis had been on board and fairuza body said about how awful he edited out of the hall saw the letter Lord, it is only found in the Arabic language it is not found in any other language. In fact, there is even another, you know fabricated head with an officer who Manasa hawkbill bodies are fabricated. Hadeeth I am the most eloquent of those who spoke the letter BOD. Even cathedra of course says that la Stella who and

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as Rooney and others basically fabricate, everybody says it's fabricated, there's no it's not nothing.

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But other scholars say the meaning is authentic. Even though the Hadith is fabricated, no doubt, the one who spoke most eloquently is our Prophet salallahu it he was sending them now. The question arises is Arabic unique in the letter board, and then of course, the point we're going to finish off at what is this controversy going on about the pronunciation of the lecture in the Arabic language. Interestingly enough, a number of early authorities did not claim exclusivity for the electoral board, a number of them said that that board is rare and it is hardly found in other languages. And in fact, a Madani Obama Danny, he said that the what makes Arabic language is not a unique is not

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the letter board, it is the VA. So he said the VA is unique to the Arabic language. Now,

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some linguists have pointed out that baud or VA does exist in some languages and small, you know, dialects here and there. And to be honest, it is, it is, it is difficult to believe that no civilization and no culture and no even, you know dialect that has been or language that is no longer existent. No one pronounced a sound that comes from the human mouth. However, I think it's fair to say that it's a very rare sound, and that the Arabs basically adopted it, and utilized it more than others as for the claim that not a single civilization not to single, even, you know, because there are over 6000 languages that are currently spoken and 10s of 1000s that are that are

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completely disappeared. And the notion that a sound that emanates from the human mouth was simply unheard of, or unutilized. That's a claim that is difficult to substantiate. But we can say and that's I think, observable, that no major language has utilized that sound. So there's nothing wrong with saying what our early some of our earliest scholars said. Now, the issue comes, of course, the pronunciation of this letter. And interestingly enough, the the letter has been compared with dad, and with VA. And the question arises, which of the is it closest to, and in our history, we have over 20 treatises that have been written by rula, from the third century, up until our times over

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20, that have been written, differentiating between the ball and the ball. And the most famous of these treatises, it is actually online, you can download it, along with a Danny, one of the great rouda of karate, and great scholar of sciences of the karate, he wrote a book called kita will follow a bainer body with that the difference between the BOD and deep that and by the way, the letter that the the thought that they're not about the letter of law, is the least used letter in the Arabic language, the letter of law, as in volume, or the or it is the least used. In fact,

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if I'm not mistaken, there's only around 30 words in Arabic that have the electoral law. And of those 30, around 10 are common 20 are obscure. Hardly anybody uses them. And we use them primarily in the word vote, and the word

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in the word sort of Aloha, alene, Nevada, right, Nevada to look at. Very rarely, there's very few words, it's the least used letter in the entire court on by the way, the letter VA, we're talking about here, law, there's much more common. Now the question that our early readers

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had to answer, or they expounded on is the distinction between the board and the VA. And I remember of course, growing up, of course, my first foreign teacher, of course, was from Pakistan. And of course, you know, we were taught what oh, Vol limb, right. That's what we were taught. And then I studied with in Houston, I study with somebody that had a jazz and out of and, you know, obviously it's a no, no, this is wrong, you have to do a little ball limb and so I learned it, but then I thought, okay, that's just a mispronunciation from my people because they're not Arabs if they don't pronounce it properly. And I didn't really think much of it until I got to Medina and started

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getting my ijazah in my first teachers in house. And of course, I mean, when you start studying, you know, and you start thinking hard and long and deep. That's when I will

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I was exposed to this controversy. And I did not even know that there was a huge controversy. And I had no idea that the controversy is actually passionately fought on both sides of the spectrum. Or I'll that, in fact, you have great rula and great horror on both sides battling out between them with a sense of actual animosity and passion to the other side about the pronunciation of blood. And the question arises that is the board closer to the dad? which is how I have been pronouncing it in this entire lecture? Or is it closer to the VA sound? And of course, this issue, I'm not going to just tell you from now, I'm not going to give a definitive answer, because we'll get there. We'll

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get there. But the point being that it's interesting to be aware of this massive controversy taking place. And each side is quoting its evidence is about the precise pronunciation. And I have to say that this is a very interesting topic beyond the scope of my brief lecture, because it really shows you either side, whichever one is right, it has to answer some very difficult questions about the issue of telepathy, the issue of is not the issue of what the books say versus what exists in reality. Because there are some interesting questions that are raised on either side, and this lecture does not have the, it's not my desire to go into all of those, those those issues and

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tangents. But it is interesting. So if you look at the earliest books written, it is quite clear to me at least, and I am somebody who's actually not passionate on either side, I think this is not an issue that we should be fighting over. Let me tell you a story once of hollow in my first year, and I was reciting to my chef.

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And I was just I would recite to the How to machine I would talk to them. And

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I remember, you know, waiting our turn in line, and there were other machines as well. There and one of the senior machines that was well known for with a lot of honey, he would be sitting three, three polls behind the three pillars behind where I would recite. And

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I asked somebody this my first year as somebody Oh, who is that your high? See, he has students as well. And my my colleague who was reciting to the show, he was a he was a chef in his own right. He was senior to me in knowledge and agent Carlos, like, is senior to me. And he goes, Oh, that's chef Obaidullah don't recite to him. Because he's he's Jani wrong. He's, he's, you know, he's dangerous of like, what what's wrong? Is he wrong? Okay, though, because no, don't recite to him. He mispronounces the BOD. Okay, so the mispronunciation of the board became so big that I was warned that don't take him as your chef, obviously, I would not say this, I'm just saying somebody told me

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this, obviously, to me, it's a trivial matter, in the sense that you know, you're not going to be punished for this or something of this nature is a trivial thing. But the point that the anger or the warning that you don't recite is well known new superhero is well known that he is and I didn't know at the time, I mean, this was my first year actually show over the line, he was very passionate about the pronunciation of the vaad not the wall, the wall the the way that he would pronounce it, and he actually wrote a book that you will find online. Obviously, I didn't study with him because I already had a teacher I didn't matter to me if Allah bless me to study with somebody I appreciate

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and love and immensely benefited from, but if I would not have had any problems studying with somebody who says well avoid lean, but the point is that this introduced me to this passionate thing. And then

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a few years after that, one of my teachers that I recited a Muslim to he was also a party, and he began kind of keep on trying to because he knew I was I had recited to the shear canal and my ages. I recited it what a law lien so it is what a board that's how I recite it. And he knew that I had decided this way. And even though the topic that I had with him was not to Judo para, he kept on bringing in quotes to me, he wanted to convince me that this is a mispronunciation and yeah, I said you should pronounce it properly, you know, what a what, what a VA lien and he would keep on bringing me quotes and my mind began to think like Hold on a sec, that quote really does make me

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think you know, and when you go back and you actually read some of these books, it's pretty interesting. So I'm going to give you some of these quotes here.

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The famous and awesome I died 213 he says that back to the water cooler, her fellow aged asked me for a brain or body while VA that I have followed the language of the Arabs.

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The the language of the Arabs, I followed all of the words of the Arabs and the letters of the Arabs and I have not found anything more difficult then to distinguish between the board and the vote. Now, the point that is being made is that the other side the side that says that the law should be pronounced closer to the

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Va lady Roby it what a VA lien. They say if you read the earliest treatises and you read all of the major books that have ever been written, they seem to indicate that the board i'm pronouncing it the second way and the VA are very similar. And here you have an awesome Are you saying that the board and again, I'm saying it the old way, the way I've been taught and the vault he goes, I can hardly tell them apart and the main point, even CBOE and others, the father of Arabic nahu, CBOE, again died in the one hundreds, right is the earliest author to write about the Arabic language, even CBO. A, McCabe may be thought of all of these great Ranima, they say that the characteristics of the

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characteristics of the letter board is a river or a house, in contrast to that, so again, there's a topic called the characteristics of the letters. And again, I'm not going to go into all of that, but each letter of the Arabic language has certain characteristics. And you can divide all the letters into either this or that, and then or this or that. So it has like a long list of characteristics. And each letter is defined by all of these various characteristics. Sometimes they're in duel, sometimes they're in triplets. So either A or B, or the A or B, or they're up until you go down the list. And one of these two parallels is required and should the or, or however, and

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they should, and they should, the letters are those that you have to stop, you cannot continue them. So for example, the off alcohol, you stop there, the bar above the gym, you just stop there, you cannot continue gg gg gg you cannot do that you doesn't work. It doesn't work that way. It's a one off. In contrast, the raha our letters are those that you can continue, right. h the shin is the Xen design, sorry, the the the law. What a loon right a Loon.

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Now, if the board is pronounced the way that I'm pronouncing it, it should be from the letters of the

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elbow. But every single book ever written on the jury, in the earliest of times, up until now says that the Lord has the characteristic of a hallway, and you cannot have it a hallway with the Lakers board, it has to only be with the earlier pronunciation, which is all laid in mo looby. This is going to be there. Another thing is that what is mentioned in the earliest books is that a number of scholars mentioned that the only difference between the board and the VA is that the sound of the verb comes from the tip of the tongue. And the sound of the law comes from the size of the tongue as they are in touch with the pre molars Okay, and there's one other difference called escalada is

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still thought it means it takes a little bit longer for the lecture to form laden and looby malubay I cannot just do it instantaneously. There still is there's a millisecond I need to set my tongue on the premolars and then expel the air. Now the point being that some of the greatest rhythm of karate, including McKibben Vitali, who is the dawn the giant died for for for his drama, give me a call him. He's one of the main ones who qualified the carriage and one of and he's one of the main people who offered views about the heartfelt karate which are basically now the standard views. He is one of the greatest Roma, of karate and original Karate Kid. And in his book, related widow

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karate, he has an entire section dedicated to BOD and on page 123. He writes and I quote, will badou you shall be hauled off to her beloved the VA Leander Houma Minar roofing so badly while Mr. Lee woman hillfield Matura majority so he is saying the law and the law, they are almost the same because they have all of the same characteristics. And then he says we're loading data for Mahara Janie, we're Mirfield body minute is still quality like Candela boohooman wa hidden 135 is somewhere where it not for the fact that the Maharaja or the place where the vault comes from is slightly different than the vault and that the law requires a millisecond to pronounce that is still Tada. In

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fact, they would be the same letter and there is no difference in the sound of the two. This is a this is a McKibben Have you thought of writing this? And he says a very interesting point here is that when you pronounce the BAA BAA and again, for the purposes of this lecture, I'm saying Bob so that you know what I'm talking about. In reality, they are arguing that the bar should be pronounced like a law of law. So he says find out Buddha's odd Mojo with and yell for the bill body mufa harmattan was Talia 10 multiple cotton Mustafa 10. So he says all these characters has to be there. Now listen to this. For the ball for you. For you, the hero SOTA horiuchi rehear in the book The

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Fetty lissoni be my elite human abrasca in the lovely b this is a key point here.

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He needs to demonstrate the expulsion of air. SOTA. Hooray, when the side of the tongue is in contact with or close to the pre molders. Here, he needs to what does he say, for your hero sold the hotel jewelry, he has to make sure that the sound of the air being expelled. Now, this clearly demonstrates that for them, at least, the letter law i'm pronouncing in their letter was something that had a continuous letter sound.

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That's what it was. The difference is that the the of the boom, the the tip of the tongue is outside of the teeth. That's the main difference. And so the sound is coming from the tip of the tongue loom, so lots of work. Whereas from different for them at least, the ball and i'm pronouncing it the second I'm sorry for confusing you guys, I hope you guys understand. The proper pronunciation should be the tongue is going to be behind the teeth where the lamb or the English letter or the or the law. Look at law or tongue, your tongue is behind the teeth right. So the tongue should be behind the teeth. Therefore you cannot have volume or the hair. However, the sides of the tongue are now

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going to be with the pre molars and air will be expelled. And so you get something like this lady, little Mel B Mel lobi, malubay and white a wall linked. So that's how they would pronounce it. And by the way, it's interesting to note that even obligers Edie who is the giant of their advantage with died 888 33 sorry, who dropped in his famous book of terawatts of time he he actually writes that there is no letter that is more difficult to pronounce properly, then the Lord. And people differ in how precise they can do it. Some of them make it into a law, because it is similar to the VA in all of its characteristics, except that it has its color. And we're it not for the Easter

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thought remember, it's supposed to add the millisecond were it not for Easter Tada. And for the fact that the mirage of the ball is different, the ball would be the right so a jersey, even a jetty is saying the ball and vor are essentially the same letter he is saying or if not for one difference, which is that the Maharaja of the VA is the tip and the Maharaja of the again, How do I explain this? Because I'm going back and forth. Right? So the majority of the vote in volume is from the tip. And the majority of the war from the mobile Ruby is from the sides of the mouth. This is images, the same word if not for this fact. And the fact there's the millisecond, it would be the

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same sound and letter. And that's why even adjusted in his term he he says care must be shown when the law and the law come next to each other in the foreign such as Uncle Wah wah rock Uncle Wah wah Horak again, why why should there be so much care if the law is pronounced the way I'm doing it uncle bought vorak the way that the law is now pronounced by most of the horror, it is closer to the dad. And if it were to be closer to the dad, it actually asked the question is then begged, why is there no Alcala on the silent law? Because there should be a calculator because the other letters of the alphabet, all of them are from the harsh letters where you stop on? And why would there be this

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this demarcation of Be careful when the law and the law come together? Because there is no sound that is similar between the way that I pronounced the law right now and the law, unless we go back to the original, and I say, law versus law that is very similar. And here we come to another point in the books of so many of the ruler across the metal tabs across the metal tabs, they pointed out that the care must be taken between the law and the VA and make sure that the author of the Quran pronounces each separate correctly. And then the question arises, what if he cannot pronounce them separately? Because there is a very, very miniscule difference that you have to be very careful to

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pay attention to. So the question came because again, obviously, if a person cannot recite the Quran properly, so then he should not be the Imam. So the books of Phil could discuss what if he cannot pronounce the law properly? What if he's pronouncing the law like the law? What is his philosophy or not? And it's interesting, because if you say that the pronunciation of the law is the law, then there is no question that it is completely separate letter. Why are the fuqaha pretty much across the metal hubs worried about the law sounding like a wall because it doesn't sound like a ball according to them.

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It sounds like a VA. And so the VA and the VA do sound very similar. And in fact, it's almost impossible to tell them apart. And that is why you look at the statements here. Mmm, no way in is much more volume three, page 392. He mentioned this controversy of what if somebody mixes up the VA and the VA. And he says that he remembered how tomato joining the family what not, he says that it should not be done. And if a person does this, he should not be prayed behind. And then he goes, there's another opinion and that is that it is allowed. And that is because it is almost impossible to tell the difference between the two and the awam. they pronounce it almost the same in Aberdeen

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from the Hanafi. Scholars. He also mentioned that if two letters are very similar to one another, and then he goes like the vault and the vault and like the sword and the scene, and like the ball and the top, then the solder is not melted. And if somebody mixes them up in then it's not Mika, how can you expect everybody to be that perfect. And once again, the first example that he gives like D and I'm going to pronounce it his way like the law and the law. In this sense, you can tell it is very difficult. However, if I were to pronounce it in the way that it is commonly done, the way that I recite as well like the ball and the law, there is very little between the two that makes them

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sound similar, in fact, even giant the giant of Ibn taymiyyah comments on this and he as well says that if somebody says that he that if somebody substitutes the ball for the vault, and he says one of vault lean, he goes that the correct opinion is that the signer is not a problem and then listen to this. This is from even Tamia much more fatawa he says the net how to feign if his summary she Anwar had no discord by the way back in the day, I have to be honest to you, I kind of was dismissing what my teacher said until he brought me with me as quote what he brought this quote this is what Jordan like whoa, okay, this seems very clear to me. So, my my love for Ibn taymiyyah caused

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me to go deeper into this issue.

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So a Mia says Leander holophane if his summary che Anwar Hayden, were his two idema Min Jin z histol hari DITA shabu, halmahera Janie, so he is saying,

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listening to these two letters, you listen to the same sound, and the characteristics and the sound that comes from the one is the same as the sound because the two Maharaj are very close to one another. And therefore he is saying if somebody messes up and he says a VA rather than VA, no big deal, we'll select sorry, but the key point here is that he is saying they sound exactly the same. And

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he'd been ideal and humbly as well. He quotes ignore it in his book called above your normal keytab and he says ilimitado, Indiana iniciativa how body Belvoir, Indiana allow you to Sala that, what we have what we conclude in the humbly Madhavi says is that the VA and the VA if there are if they are mispronounced in the sada the Salah is still authentic, no problem. Why? Because he says that the similarity between them is very close. Mashallah, with the house of the minima done, it's very close. What Tim yuzu, I see Ron, and to distinguish between the two is very difficult, because they share the same characteristics as each other. So this is again, another quote over here Now,

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question arises, how did the pronounciation now become ball? and Why are people so adamant that it is bought? When if you actually look at it, and again, even though I'm not taking sides here, per se, because I really, it's not a big deal to me, as we're trying to say, but I think if you read the classical text, I think it's very clear that what is intended, and what they seem to understand is that the VA is pronounced very similar to the law. And that similarity does not exist when you pronounce it as a ball. So what exactly happened

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although those ball envoys making my head, my throat, My throat is dry.

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hamdulillah and that's my ice water.

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What exactly happened? So, um, what happened is that around two 300 years ago, a group of Quran Egypt began reciting, with a harsh done, lady in the middle boulby it what a law lien and this began to become more and more popular. We do have some documentation of fatawa written for and against so there was a bit of a controversy to 300 years ago, and it lasted for a while, between the roadmap as her and other other marchetto art and whatnot about the pronunciation of golbat we actually have fatawa about this

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The proper pronunciation but slowly but surely, this pronunciation continued to gain a mainstream backing in the land of Egypt and because of the advent of the radio and then of the recorder because

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the Egyptian government was the first to officially broadcast on radio, and it was the first to officially record the Quran as well. The famous Adi Rifai was the first to record the 1930s and then again Abdul Basit and whatnot, they were of the first generations to record and it just so happened that all of these are raw. We're following the ball madhhab and because of the popularity of Of course, Egyptian Quran I mean, who can deny the impact? I grew up in the late 70s, early 80s. Listening to the boss onto solid demand, shall we in their cassettes and the radio, listening to the Koran kill him. But if you listen to other or outside of those circles, you still find the law sound

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there. And even in Egypt, the great artemus seminude who passed away was 10 years ago or something or less than that. I'm not sure, actually. But

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he was one of them. No, no more than him. Sorry. He was one of the famous Porat as well other great quarter of Egypt and of course, in other lands as well, in Libya, and in Pakistan, of course, in India, the lot has been preserved in the old way. And you still have of course, when I was in Malaysia with a loved one, of course, he passed away

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more than a decade ago, but these people were of course, very adamant about the old school law sound. On the other side, of course, you have the great person who is considered to be people consider him to be the greatest alum of Madrid of our time, Dr. Aisha Heyman is swayed. And he is a very passionate defender of the board sound. And this debate goes on back and forth. On Twitter, there's a number of users that have given long links about

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this issue. You can look them up, just do a Google search, and you will find some and treatises are available in in in Arabic, I'm not sure any available in English. But I just thought this would be something interesting to think about this distinction between the law and between the law and between the bar. And in the end of the day, which one is correct. All we can do is we say that a dinner Serato was the theme. So it also Latina and Nam to LA him have a real, very real, very real, whichever one you do insha Allah to Allah, we don't want to be from those whom Allah's wrath is upon. And we don't want to be amongst those who are astray. Both of these positions have great

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drama. Technically, I would say from a purely theoretical perspective, it does appear that the sound that is closer to the vault is what was intended by the earliest scholars, nonetheless insha Allah, Allah our religion is not that strict and sounds do evolve over time look at every single Arabic dialect in the world, it has evolved its own sounds, and know that we should preserve the Koran in as much as we can in the original pronunciation. So whichever shift you follow, follow him in that regard. And because my ages that was from a chef that and by the way, the interesting points of Abdullah even my chef in his youth, the ages that he got was law, but as he grew older and he became

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a chef, the pressure on him and whatnot he had to change to bar and that's what he does. And I've spoken to many scholars in this regard there's so much pressure from people to change from the voice sound that the I was even talking to our own local office up here about this and he said the same thing that you know, when I came you know, people just kept on saying you're wrong, you're either he has he has that he has a beautiful voice everything but the pressure on him that if he continues that they say his son has bought and whatnot so just to modify and to whatnot, he's forced to change I don't like this I mean, people should not change opinions because of their pressure on them and

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ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to always allow me to be who I am regardless of the pressure on me an opinion should be from yourself an opinion should be what you research what you should not be forced to hold an opinion just because people don't like what you say. In any case.

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In my humble opinion,

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I think classically speaking the vote sound seems to be closer to what is intended nonetheless, I don't agree with the fanaticism on either side. I don't agree with this hard cornice either one you do inshallah, and it's not a big deal inshallah. We just don't want to be in the bowl boo ba him, what overhaulin or what a ball lean mean and within inshallah I'll continue next time said I'm heading to La Habra cattle