Channel: Waleed Basyouni
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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.
Just a correction, I did not get my PhD from Miami University. I got my bachelor and my master's degree in the Imam University in Saudi Arabia. But to my doctor, I got it my PhD, I had it from graduate theological Foundation, Indiana,
just for the record as a correction Jazakallah Hara Dinesh, and thank you for having me. This platform actually should be our platform, since I'm the Vice President of Alibaba. And I would like to say, thank you all for coming and sharing with us this wonderful two days, which is inshallah will be full of beneficial knowledge for all of us.
That's one of the most important goal that we seek in our model of Institute, that we expose ourselves and our community, to the knowledge and to make sure that what motivates us what that what control, basically, our mind, is education, education is the best way for any community to prevail or to be strong. That's why we care a lot about or that's actually our main focus is an organization educational organization, to spread the knowledge and
between our brothers and sisters,
it is a picture very hard to forget
that you might sell it as well.
when you see that young man, full of life, energy,
and even you can tell from the way he dress, the way he look, the way he talks, that he's a religious person,
motivated, committed, willing to do anything you can imagine, for his religion, or for what he think is correct, and true.
Some of them may be wearing that black turban
and next to him collection curve with a or a machine gun. And some even striped themselves with bombs. And declaring his was the year his well, his last words in the studio.
Then in a few seconds, this image goes away, then another image Come on the TV screens of somebody who blow himself up. And his body is all over the asphalt of the street, or in the bus, or in that building the tea decide to attack
Maybe nobody is the only one dead. And that image. And sometimes other few people's children's woman's others people the streets happen to be in the subway that they happen to be in his office in that day, or sometimes even soldiers
and government officials.
Then you see after that image,
the family members and the respond of the media and the community, how they react to such incident.
It is an image that I cannot put my head on the sand that I claim that I never saw.
It is an image that no one can claim that it's never exist.
Those people who dressed that way to imitate some leaders.
The sad part is those young men and sometimes woman they will die while their leaders watching them.
They threw them in this in the middle of this war to blow to blow themselves up and to kill themselves and others while they are watching.
It is when you see the mother and the parents been crying over the death of the sons or been humiliated and sometimes arrested and all the friends and the family members
The consequences of this actions and a lonely knows how far these actions can reach the consequences of this action can reach.
Sometimes you don't see him even dead. That person, you see, that person's surrounded with a 10s of soldiers and FBI agents or other agencies and other places in the world, captured him before he did anything. And what happened to him, he just basically ended his life by spending the rest of his life behind bars, and so many times will be even executed and killed.
whatever happened to family members, the reaction, the backlash that the community will suffer from such action. That's a terrible things. But really, for me,
the real issue that this young man died, while he or she think that they are doing something good, the last The only chance that they have in their life when they participated in that war, or in that suicide mission. And that's reminded me of what Abdullah
said to a young group of Muslims in his town came to him and offered him the opportunity to participate in a war against unjust ruler, a killer emergency dictator, his name and had judged in the news of Buffy
the rebel against him under the leadership of Russia, and they came to me said join us this is Jihad feasibility lab. What is better than you sacrificed your soul for the sake of Allah?
In the master, Amina Amina, amphu, Samana, Allah have purchase the souls and the money of the believers that they give it up for the sake of Allah. So Allah give them gender, what do you want more than that?
That's the language that they used.
But the reaction of that wise color, wise worshiper was like this. He said, what you are in, is a matter of confusions.
It's not clear that you are upon the truth.
And I don't believe that this is correct what you doing.
And I have only one so I have one live I only one chance, if I die, I will never be received back to this world in life to correct what I have done wrong. So our rather in the Day of Judgment, not to be asked why you killed somebody, than to be asked why you have not participated.
Those young men who lost their chance by going in a such path
will never be justified their actions if their intention is good, or are they trying to do what is correct? Because Allah Subhana Allah said, All hell Luna bucum bill of surina Amana alladhina, Birla Satya whom Phil hayati dunya well, whom he is a boon and whom you have seen so now, you want to know about the most losing people.
Those who will do things in this worldly life and they are loser in the Day of Judgment they lose they don't gain anything out of these actions that they have done. Even though they thought they are doing the best.
They will Masood Rahim Allah put it correctly. biochemie Marie de Lille high
Man, a daddy reported that he told a group of
people who did something not according to the Sharia, he told them, they told him we only intend to Good, good intention is not enough.
Then it will Michelle said so many people intend to do something good but they have not done what you really you did something wrong.
My brothers and sisters
allows my witness that the only reason I accept to talk about the subject even though it was not my suggestion, but I never had a hesitation to talk about this subject because the love that I have
For this young Muslims, brothers and sisters, who I know that so many of them, motivated by the love for the religion, and the frustration of the political, the poor political situation that the Muslims are going through these days.
And also for the love for those people who have been deceived by certain groups, and certain individuals, who knows how to talk maybe more eloquently than me. And they know how to quote, a verse from here and a hadith from there, to deceive those Muslims who are not fully aware and really educated, well educated in the subjects and it ends up that those young people or old will end up corrupting their Deen and dunya. Their first live and the second because my brothers and sisters, there is nothing worse after should, after committing, associating with Allah Subhana Allah than killing a person then killing an innocent person. When levena
those who do not call upon other than Allah subhanaw taala didn't worship other than Allah
moon and the second Crime The second major sin was mentioned here is basically killing on a soul that Allah subhanaw taala for obeyed, forbade to be killed, and the third sin that they commit fabrication. Allah said about those who do such since you borrow
their punishment will be doubled in the Day of Judgment wire holder fee
and they will stay for it in a very long time and this punishment except those who repent to Allah will do good deeds.
You have on your Rasul Allah what is the worst sin yeah Rasul Allah.
He said, and tend to ruin Allah He needs
to pray to other than Allah was the one who created you, cleaner than what Tyler and tuck to the common law that you will kill your son because of the fear of poverty.
I tada and Tanzania beheaded at Jaric that you will commit adultery to fornicate with your neighbor's wife, Carla, this the prophets are seldom mentioned the greatest three sins that can ever be committed. And he mentioned the worst case scenario of each case. The worst case scenario when it comes to worshipping other than Allah that you pray to other than God than Allah, and he's the one who created you. This is the worst form of disbelief and the worst form of killing to kill your own son. And the worst case when it comes to fornication to fornicate with your wives and the neighbor's wife.
So as also Nabi sallallahu Sallam said layers that are Muslim, Rufus Hatton, Mindy mela, Musik diamond Karana, you are in ease unless you will cause to injure to kill someone.
My brothers and sisters, I wish that tonight we will open our hearts and mind
for dialogue and education.
to open our mind to discuss or to listen at least two points of views that I'm going to raise today, regard to some of the issues that I believe it was raised by those extreme groups over the internet used mainly to motivate or to justify the act of terrorism, which has been taken against Muslim and non Muslims as well in North America, in Europe, and the Middle East, in so many countries and over across the globe.
And to clarify the truth from the false hood because the nature of any deviant sects or groups that appeared in Islam that nobody comes and say, You know what, I'm wrong. I dis announced Islam and Sunnah and this is nobody say that. Everybody has to back his or to back their argument with evidence, evidence from Koran or sudden that was the case. From the very
early time during the history of Islam, but
here there is an important point, which is a lot of force trained, educator raised. And none of Muslims also raised that sometimes when I talk about this issue, that question will come, and how do you know that you are upon the truth?
Ie they claim that they are upon the truth. And this is there is no solutions that some of the Muslim would say, you shield student of knowledge comes and talk to the Muslim community, telling them whatever you want to tell, but still, at the end of the day, they're going to tell whatever dinner and no final basically, decision will be made. This is maybe applicable to, as I said to a lot of people who have a Western background or Christian background in general and to be specific.
In Islam, it is a little bit different. In Islam, we don't have that lose in
in certain areas. Yes, there is a diversity in our religion, that is different opinions are accepted different fields. But also we have something we call pseudo came out from the Sharia principles, foundations that no argue about it. And that's what we use against those basically, those groups and these extreme groups. In Islam, we have a concept that's called innovations in religion. And those innovations are leading to the Hellfire as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, it is not the first time for Muslim to deal with such groups. It's not the first time that we have an extreme group in any areas and as a militant groups, or even an ideologist to deal with them. And it's been
clear for the history of Muslims, that they were of hamdulillah the mainstream and to isolate these ideas, and they were always minority, and they will remain because the shape and the Satan always has people that he will be able to deceive and to take them astray. But Allah subhanaw taala set in Nunez zelner Victrola in Nana, who the half moon, we have sent down a vicar, we have sinned down the Quran, and we are going to protect it. And the protection of the religion as a bin hasm Rahim Allah wrote a beautiful article about this and also, that the protection of the religion is not only by protecting the text, it's also by protecting the understanding the correct understanding of the
text, that it has to be protected, and how to be protected as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, terrible Almighty Allah. Wa Sabina sharifa kulu have enough Alfredo in LA Haider teittleman home Yasser Allah, Allah Allah, Allah healio masabi that the Prophet Salam told us that there will be a division in a woman Yasmin confessor, Tina Fey and Kathy era, whoever will live among you will see a lot of divisions happen to the Muslims, and this divisions among Muslims will be even where it will be greater than the division have been among Christians and Jews.
But the difference that in among religions before us, there is no one there's no sex, there is no group been promised to be always victorious and clearly recognized as the group upon the truth. But in the case of Muslim, he said, latter xalapa, effeminate Amati among Surah vorherigen, Allah makara for whom there are will be victorious, they will be always recognized, recognized by the methodology that they follow the common sense that they have that foundation foundations and the principle that they are holding into it. That's why there is no one ever invented an innovation in religion, or establish a sect and religion unless you will see him clearly or her contradict themselves, or will
contradict a clear text and Quran and evidence. And this statement is not just a statement I'm saying intellectual. This is a statement made by scholars well founded in religion experts when it comes to the history of sects such as shackle Islam, they've been Tamia Rahim Allah Allah, or am Rahim Allah.
And if I need to quote a morning to
an example of urban Tamia, Rahim Allah said in Ted Maria, he said
everything that the innovators tried to establish and
To avoid by inventing new principles or ideas in religion, they will end up contradicting themselves by doing what is worst by doing what is worst. And another time of Notre Dame rahimullah said a very general statement said, What couldn't no man asked for us.
Allah what a pseudo panda who kasan a lot of dishonor in the introduction of his great book, she found alien, he said, everybody in if invented in religion, a principle that is not in the religion, it will lead him to reject a text from Quran and sooner. And the both have given hundreds and 10s of examples of the practices of the sex. I'm not here to talk about this particular the history of sex in Islam, I do have already a set of CDs, you can see has some examples, not necessarily directly related to the subject, but it is no doubt incorporate with the subject in general.
My brothers and sisters, the issue of innovations in religion, it's an issue been documented, it's clear we know how to recognize innovations from what is said innovations of religion from what is sin, those group that I'm talking about today are not new.
There is a similar group, even though my personal opinion that not so many of these extreme groups that adopt
the methods of attacking and killing governments and non Muslims in general, like
the mill jihad in Egypt, and what known today as a jab Al atomia, the Mahabharata solid Ali hood, the international coalition of Muslim sects, to declaring war against Christians and Jews, which is how the Lima Jihad Egypt bellenden. And two groups from Pakistan and Bangladesh have signed that coalition treaty or documentation in, in the 1998. In 1998, such group they are not new, such ideologies and the argument that they came up with also in North Africa and in Egypt, there are so many different groups as well, in Europe, in America, you will find here and there people who adopt certain ideologies that as I said, it's not new in its nature. It is something known from long time
there is a time came where Muslims politically were in unrest.
There is unrest, political situations, and also were some Muslims have seen change in the leadership in the government, where they notice or they claim that there is a corruption in the government. And that wasn't the time of earth model of the law and water law. And that led them to change what they thought is a corruption by killing Earth man. When there is a fight between Muslim leaders earlier on the law and more our we are under severe three major, basically, leaders here and there is a fight happened between them. There is a group of Muslims said this is not acceptable. This is wrong. They are all against the Sharia. What is the solution? Let's assassinate them, kill them, and to get
rid of the problem.
And those people develop later on, they start something we call it the Korea and they end up in a very well known sect in the history of Islamic called alcoholic. And I definitely recommend Muslim to revisit and to study those group.
Because it may be social and send us a Muslim pile Elias una una de la Rosa de Jan, they will always come and appear in your society in your community until the misfold Messiah appear. So they will be always exist in the Muslims word are among Muslims are in the words in general until the end of the days basically.
I believe not necessarily all of these groups are hawara. Because one of the basic argument those people will come and tell you, I don't believe if you commit major sin, your cafe. And the hard you believe that
you believe that Allah cannot be seen in the Day of Judgment. And we don't believe that. You believe that there is no intercession for the sinners in the division. We don't believe in that. We believe in the Salafi appeal of
that there is intercession in the day of judgment that when you commit a medicine you will not be careful by drinking alcohol.
With that freedom from that label. No
As a matter of fact, if you look at how the early Muslim generation used to consider somebody from Hawaii, or not it not necessarily by these ideologies, it is by the Spirit that practices actually the said, Men hemella, safe of a woman of Hawaii. This is the only description you will find among the early generations and I'm talking about the first 300 years of Islam, those who carry weapons, those who feel that the way to basically to get their message across it will be by carrying weapons and fighting and killing innocent people. Sometimes, you see people have the spirit of college, not the methodology of heart, not the believer of the heart, the spirit of a commodity, and that can be
exist in so many people. For instance, those who rush and go hasty to say you are hypocrites, you are cafard you are, you are this, you are that this is the spirit of a commodity, those who always concentrate on criticizing and attacking their brothers and sisters. It is the spirit of a commodity. Those are extreme in their views, even in their worshiping God, it's a spirit of a cottage.
I was told about a man whenever he decided the Quran, he will immediately fall unconscious. Oh, I've been moved by the verses and fall unconscious. She said this is from a college. This man from a college
had been rumored said the same thing as recorded by lilica and had been walked by and others Why? Because the spirit she said, US harbor Mohammed can at kapu Birmingham, Womack, and Talia Quran Allah,
the prophet SAW Selim companion, they were more righteous than them. And none of them did what they doing. So this is an important to you to differentiate between also the spirit of a commodity those groups might have, and not necessarily the ideology or the ideological believes that the commodity used to have.
Today, I think it is important to talk about the subject because I don't want to be among some of my brothers, who unfortunately, still insisting that this is not a problem. After all, what we hear today, and the news, and we seen, and we personally dealt with this, insisting that this is not a major problem to deal with. They are just some of them so naive, or so I don't know what to call. But this is all this exaggeration is made by the CIA, or the Mossad, or the Muslim governments, they made them otherwise, there is no such groups.
I don't know when such people will wake up.
Also, some brothers and sisters, or some sort of knowledge, will not like to talk about the subject, because for some reason, because the other side, there are so many injustice happened by the hand.
The government of United States against Muslims worked so many injustice that we don't agree with, happening against the Muslims and Palestine, by the hand of Israel's, and there are so many injustice happening to Muslims, individuals happening to the Muslims, inside the Muslim country, by the hand of so many dictators and governments. So they think if you talk about these groups, you will justify what you don't agree with, which is done by any country, Muslim or non Muslims. And I believe that's not fair. And it's not right. One mistake, plus one mistake will never make one correct, it will make two mistakes, you need to say that what is happening in the Muslim country by
the hand of Muslims, or by the government of us or any country in the world, if you believe and you think it is wrong, you stand up and you argue that and you make your point. And a lot of people 1000s of people have made their points clear that they agree or disagree with the government of the opposition towards one case or another. But this will never justify us also to remain silent and to turn our back or our face to the other direction and let these groups grow. And when some student of knowledge did that, and I remember that as if it was yesterday in Saudi Arabia. When I used to talk with some individuals, and I told them you should come across and talk clearly about such
individuals who these ideas growing. They said, No, no, don't
Worry, Blitz them, there are so many injustice happening them, let them put pressure in the government, what happened, the things have gotten out of hand
out of hand, and we all of a sudden we hear every other month about people blowing them up so up in a compound or in a government building or assassinating
a government official. Now they regret that they have not token early about this issue. So I think it is an essential, it is important for us to be brave, and to admit that we do have a problem. But the good news is, the good news is that the nature of the Muslim community
to fight terrorism,
the nature of the Muslim community is to reject extremism. That's the nature of our communities. Somebody was telling me once it is the Muslim community responsibility to fight terrorism, I said, I have better way to put it. The Muslim community naturally reject extremism. Actually, it's a terrain.
For those who have gone extreme are those extreme people, you know which community they belong to the community of forums, the community of internet, but they never been active in their community, you will never see them actively work in social works, you will never see them organizing a blood drive, you will never see them carrying canned foods to the homeless, you will never see them work in a massage, or a Muslim community. Because this environment is so healthy, this environment is busy with what is beneficial. And it's very hard for such person to fit in.
That's why you always go and find them only online, or wherever they will be hiding. And this not only in the West, by the way, even in the Middle East, even in the Muslim country, you will see them always away from the community.
reclaiming Islam from the jihadists, I have to declare this and to say very clear, that's not the title I have chosen. Actually, it was given to me. And I'm not 100%. And I said that when the title was given to me, but even I'm the Vice President, but we have kind of democracy Institute. That doesn't mean I have to enforce my belief on them. But what I think but I said, I will make that comment.
I believe that this name, not an accurate name, and I would never use it if it's only my choice, because that's provoke others. And indeed that so and maybe make people angry. And the last thing I want to do is to make anybody angry. That's not my goal. My goal is to guide you. My goal is to stretch my hand not to hit you with my hand to welcome you.
I don't want anyone when you hear this lecture, because of the title will take a defensive position. You know what? I'm holding it to No, you're taking it from me? No, no, no, that's not what I want. I want you to open your mind and your eyes, and to listen to the evidence to listen to the elders among the scholars to look around and to see the picture. Clear, not only the way that it's been put in front of you,
I also believe that this title, have done unjustice to the word jihad. Because I believe those people that I'm talking about the don't deserve the word Jihad this because the word jihad is a beautiful word is an Islamic word, with the whole word used to know the word jihad in a very beautiful way. When the 80s you hear about the Mujahideen and the Mujahideen and the Mujahideen in Afghanistan,
but those people who have taken this word or say what are Jihad jihad is far away from what they're doing. What they're doing is
transgressions, is the volume and justice abusing murderous
patella, they not this is not what the Jihad that Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam have came up with. So in the old days, the Howard used to call themselves a Schrott those who sold their souls to Allah, they sold their souls to Allah.
Did any one of the Muslim scholars agree on this name? No. They never called them this because they don't deserve it. Because they were liars, the coven by the name that the bill they deserve? a Chevy. Erica Alibaba, these names. How are
you never find
One of these names have a good old meaning
to I don't think that they I need to reclaim hamdulillah they are minority they never took or hijack Islam but no doubt in media, they were a perfect example to be used to some media not all of them have to be also very clear similar media out of ignorance and sometimes not they might think or generalize in their terms against Islam and Muslim by linking Islam to such ideologies such I geologies
a lot of people have been deceived by such people for two reasons. One because their appearance because they look religious, they have big beard, the coat on the memorize the Quran
and I just want to remind everyone here with what the amendment Buhari and Muslim reported in the sorry that the prophets of Salaam said from Hadith Alibaba, Alibaba Group, the Sahaba directory, the prophets of Salaam said there is a group will come. When you compare your prayer to their pray the way you pray to the way they pray. And he talks about to about the companions of Muhammad. You compare the campaigners of Mohammed's prayer and salt and fasting and the way they respond to the way those group respond and fast and pray.
Your prayer will seems to be like nothing compared to them. steadily, so righteous. See, pray a lot.
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language I was Hannah Jerome. But reading Quran will not travel farther than the throat, it means we don't understand it. It doesn't go to the brain. They don't understand they just read it. They just coating it, or it will not travel to the sky, what Allah Subhana Allah accept the deeds, that will not, he said, laying the whole genome in Islam layer on a lady leave and exit Islam and they will never come back to it. And because of this, I believe also, that some of those extreme people who have gone so far, I have so much big doubt that they will ever come back. And I don't care much about talking to them.
Because I think they've done The Prophet said the exit they never come back, you read 10s of campaigns and successors, and early scholar said Sahaba beat Allah to innovator will never repent, and the almost connect this to the marriage.
You see, maybe she romiley Academy, whatever you repent, but how did you Julie the don't, the status, why. And that's one of the dangerous thing, if you take that route and you go deep in it, it might be so dark that you never get lost, you can never come back.
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if I ever meet the owl kill them all, I will destroy them all in the same manner as Allah destroy the people of
died in Santa Monica.
whoever killed them, he will be rewarded or fight them he will be rewarded. Anyway, as I said, I'm not saying that they are the horrid, they are the heroes, but they have the spirit of such people. So don't let the look deceive you don't let the turban and the big beard and the deceive you know
it is what they call it, what they base their argument on to what a lot of people do be deceived by the most of the decode a lot of scholars, a lot of world non recognized colors, like even Tamia, rockmelon rojava. And
they have a big cafe, they use this a lot to appear as if they are people who base their argument in fundamentals and foundations and so on.
And we will give an examples of shall of how this is not accurate or
I would like to make
a point here are a declaration I give before civil lecture two lectures close to the subject. And I have used a word in it. And it raised a lot of tension at that time. And a lot of people talk to me about and I would like to say
that I said these lectures something in that light that the people who have come to participate in the war in Afghanistan in the 80s of the Mujahideen that I remember
Number one, I know a lot of people in that time when it was young men and in, in Arabia, and I see a lot of people going there, there were people who couldn't make any difference in their life. They're not successful family in their society. And they ended up going back. I believe that generalizing this word is not accurate is not correct, and as a lot smarter to forgive me from it. And I think that's not the correct point to make that general statement. Because among the people who went to the Jihad that I want to send in the 80s, sincere men and woman, and they were not losers, they were successful people who went in that time to fight the Russian. And how shall lead that I meant to
generalize, there's a lot of Fulani sincere brothers and sisters sacrificed their lives and their family died in the process of liberation, of understand from the Russian. And I think it will not be fair to make a general statement, but I was talking about a group of people a certain group of you who later on formulate these extreme views and ideas. So just to make sure that this is clear.
So basically, we talking about the people who
we talk about the people who spread extreme views in such a manner to encourage people to kill, or injure or destroy, Urban's or kill innocent people, Muslims or non Muslims attacking and transgression, transgress to transgress against Muslim or non Muslims as well in a Muslim country or a non Muslim country, as long as there is no status of a clear war on our talking about this, because this is an area where they play the game. Oh, there is a war, we have a war. Okay, so that's justify what we don't know. But I'm talking specifically about this group that I mentioned earlier, like a spider and people who are circling around their ideology circle around their ideologies.
And also, I would like to praise the brave decisions of certain leaders of these groups who have left these ideologies, like Jemaah Islamiyah in Egypt,
in Libya, in Saudi Arabia, so to certain individuals have declared that they have left and repented from such ideologies, and even posted on the internet, very beneficial books written in Arabic, and I hope that it was also provided in English for English speakers as well as well. So this is something give us hope, inshallah. And it is an indication for the young brothers and sisters who basically impressed by these groups, to see the other side of the coin, and to see from inside, what exactly it used to look like. Like when he talks about the history of a man of Allah, Harry, and people like that, you will see a totally different picture of what maybe have engraved in your mind
about such individuals.
I would like to say that terrorism and extremism always based on two pillars, one, those who supported terrorism, by ideologies by justifying the actions, and those who supported it, by weapons by carrying the weapons. And if there is a person who have both, this is the most dangerous person will be, but that is to group people, they've never carry weapons, but they give the ID this spread and the idea. And I think for the Muslim community, for the student of knowledge, the role of should be always or this is the nature of our community, and Hamdulillah, to reject and to fight these ideologies. And we should not wait for the government and I'm talking specifically about America
here. We should not wait for the government to invite the government to fight the ideologies, because the moment the government stepped in to fight ideologies, the moment you might be losing a lot of your civil rights. That should be the community role. And that's the role that we expecting from it, that you want the government to watch from a distance, but we as a community, take care of these ideologies talk about it, open the dialogue, make to ensure that it is will be clearly addressed, and basically opposed by the community. But when it comes, and basically we will be the front row here in fighting terrorism, and any agencies or government agencies should be just from
the back you should not be involved. Only the involve if the law was broken, if the law was broken, because before breaking the law, there is a big gap and a distance and as much as you let the girl
involved before the law was broken, as much as losing left and right from your rights as the civil rights. But whenever the situation turned to be an active roles by causing harm or a real threat to the security of the citizen of any country, in this case, our role will be to pull back. And that's the government basically role to ensure that such damage will not take place such terrorist act will never be taking place to protect the citizen of its own country.
Usually, my brothers and sisters terrorist group, just to fight the take their support from the reaction of government, apparently, you know, a lot of time you don't hear what caused the problem every time they talk about how the government's reacted to them. So they talk a lot about how the Muslims were torture in the jails, by what have triggered the whole thing, it will be lost in the dialogue. So as much as aggressive reaction from government, as much as these people justify for themselves, and feel a lot of people supporting them and timpz from people. And that should not be a way to fool us to forget about what caused the problem from the beginning, from that beginning. So
many times terrorist group or extreme group distort their ideologies based indulge in a fair case, but not in a fair and just way of treating it. Palestine. It's a fair case, but the way that it might be used, and the justification that happened because of it will not be necessarily fair. A portion is something not very good. But to go on blew up a clinic of a portion clinic, that's not right, or a fair way of dealing with it.
Using users and basically corrupting people's financially and selling drugs and alcohol, it's a bad thing. But to go to blow up certain Institute's and killing people there, that's definitely is how long is how long.
they might have a just case, but they don't have a just means, basically, to the case that they want to discuss. So we should also keep that in mind when we talk about this group.
One of the things that I have noticed,
by studying or reading about the ideologies of these extreme groups, there is very fast trend of changes. And this split very quickly. So it starts with one case, all of a sudden, you start as a big sinners, then you end up biggest hypocrites, then the biggest cafard than the most enemy of Islam, then you see how it starts, America is bad, then it is the worst, then it is number one, and it is. And now it's one case, 2345. It's very fast, the chain, so many issues will be raised. And that's create a sense of confusion and make it very hard to have a debate or a dialogue, a dialogue, and also shows you how far can it goes, it goes with fighting the people who the bad, then the
people who live with them, then the people who aged them, then the people who live around them to see how's that work. So in the beginning, this is a suicide bombing, it can be done in a case of fighting the war, then after that it became go to a place where there is government, and then you go to public place, then ended up even killing himself. And they said that's fine because he raised awareness, see how the change from one level to another from one level to another. Also
it's it's, it's interesting, once it is war against the government of certain country. In the beginning, for example, something of jihad in Egypt has this declaration that they only focus in fighting Egyptian government. They call it a duel Karim Allah, meaning either will bury the enemy who's next door or its priority for us to fight him than the one who far away. So they never fought any western country anything like that. And after years, after more than 1400 people killed in this process
by the factual and by the basically the instruction that given by a velocity and people like him.
They come later on to say we were wrong. We should not do that. We should not focus on this after killing more
Than 1400 people
1300 of them are among the Muslims, among the gyptian citizens over a course of less than seven years,
then you change. And now he said, which is very weird, the enemy are the whole word. There is an open war against Christians and Jews everywhere in the world, and America and Europe and South America and everywhere.
It is a dramatic change very fast, in unexpected. Also, there are so many contradictions in the approach. First in those extreme groups, the calling for the justice of Islam and implementation of the Sharia, and the protecting of human rights. And they are the first one to, to validate over us to basically not paying attention to human rights to not applying justice and not applying the Sharia as rules. These extreme groups, they asked people to make encourage mooncup to basically fight what is evil and themselves doing what is evil.
When you read the fatwa of some of the leaders, when he said it is permissible to go to burn a video stores or alcoholic place or sell alcohol, and even if this is will cost to burn the whole building than in Egypt, a building will accommodate hundreds of family, they will end up in the street, that's fine. That's not evil. That's not wrong. To go to Mohammed or Sophie's gather and to through an eyeball or a bomb in the middle of the gathering. That's okay, because that's in current mooncup. If somebody died or burned, that's fine.
To go to a Shia mosque and to blow it up with the kids and children and everybody, that's fine. That's in COVID mooncup.
It is contradiction when somebody just fresh Muslim, fresh young man or woman, come back to Islam want to practice Islam, the first thing you do you wrap him up with a bomb and you go blow yourself up. But isn't that person need to take his time and worshiping Allah Subhana? Allah? Where does the telopea What is their dad? Did the province was lm used to do that?
contradiction when you hear them in England, and living off the social system in Europe and the United States, they taking their pension, their checks from the government that they declare war against it.
Isn't that contradictions, contradiction when your own country wants to kill you when there is a civil war in your country, and not a single Muslim country
opened their doors to take the refugee of these countries who had a civil wars
where they ended up in America and in Europe,
who opened their doors, these countries
and the return you plot against them as a contradictions, contradictions when you ask people to blindly follow and obey the meal and not to obey their parents.
It is contradiction when you claim that you follow the scholars.
Like I was quoting, Chevron mission at bam bam was talking about. But whenever it comes their statements against them, they just announced them immediately.
They talk about
him or Mohammed Ibrahim and caught him. But he never did forget that he was one of the pillars
of the Saudi government that they believe it is the most evil government.
Why why the country why you pick his opinion and and help them better man's Allah and now you forget about his practices.
My brothers and sisters
are jihad. There is no need for me to talk about the virtues of jihad. Because this will establish I don't need me or anybody else. It is one of the pillars and one of the fundamentals on Sharia and no need for exaggeration or somebody say oh talk about the importance of it we know about but let me explain some important facts about jihad. Al Islam came to establish a society a civil society. in this society, you will have something called Justice Department, like what we have just to make it simple to be understood. We have a system for how the state work how the Muslim state work. You have a system how the judge have to practice
Job how the policeman has to work as we call it in Islam nilambur hisbah. How good is a financial Institute can be built in the country and how they work, which deewan or baitul. Man, we have the defense ministry known oldest in the history as a D one, which is people register for the army and so on.
And in order for you to organize the concept of war and peace, it was given to the, to the Muslims, in a form what we call a tertiary after jihad, the books have taught a lot about the fifth, the ruling related to jihad. That's basically when there is a Muslims state, or there is a Muslim in any country, how they declared war, when they declared war, what's the ruling and related to the war, that what you read in the books of jihad.
It's not ever meant for just every individual claim. It's not like a lot, you can go and mix a lot in your own. So you can go and make jihad in your own exactly, cannot go and say I'm the judge, I'm going to apply the punishment. And now I will judge between people, he can do that. It's not up to you. It is it is part of a whole system of portables otherwise it will be a mess, like what we're seeing today.
And jihad is the tool is not the mean. That's why if, as so many schools like I
said, If what you want to establish by Jihad can be established without fight, you're not allowed to fight.
So it is not a go. That's why one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life, somebody said so and so is captured. Why because he never he never declared Jihad superpower as if it has to be exist. It's a mean if there is need for it to use it. And also al jihad is only allowed to be exists, if the benefit from it outcome, the disadvantages. It's not in all cases. Because the Sharia based on the clan and Muslim I wonder is the great benefit can be achieved can be achieved. I don't know if I have time to quote, luckily mammals cassani an Imam Duany, so many scholars I have their quotes here. They all said no damato him Allah, he said, and let me call them nicodemo Rahim Allah
either Hassan imamo heslin if the amount of the Muslim shirts only related to the always relative to the amount the leaders if he surrounding a castle, and he found that there is more harm of surrounding him and fighting them. And it is better for the Muslim army to leave them he should leave, he should leave because it nubby Salalah Solomon is surrounded and he everyday they were harmed more people killing and there is hard, it's very hard to enter such castle, he left at Salomon, he never came back to attack a path and in the morning at 10. So there is so many quotes from the scholar, this is something agreed upon that when there is a great benefit of jihad to be
declared that ruler Miss must make that call in this case. But if the ruler think that it is will be more disadvantage of declaring war against anybody, he should not involve the community or his country in such an A such war. Also the other thing that this issue of jihad. And I believe if you make this point clear, to yourself and to others, that as I said, it's a part of the society, it means it's in the hands of the governor, it's the hand of the leader, it's not in the hands of individuals hiding in caves, or in living in internex societies, or in some apartments here or there. It is in the hands of the Muslim carnivore Imam who in control of his country, our SAP HANA
data set where either Java
only ambrym in home, if there is a matter of fear or safety or pays come at a major issue. They have to refer it to the profit and to the leaders, to the governor's to the Presidents whatever you call them. The leader sorting this out at three, no doubt that one of the most important thing to be referred to will be the issue of declaring war or peace. The Prophet Selim was asked Yeah, you have to be you have to limit meaning al Qaeda, sort of unfold verse 65, or Mohammed encourage people to fight, invite them to fight so Mohammed, not everybody and whoever replace Mohammed or salams row which is the governors and the leaders of the Muslims. Also the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
said about the time when there is Muslim will be so much confusion, divisions and disobedience and so forth. And he said, Carla, tells them which American Muslim in
Mmm for Ella Nicola home. Mm
hmm. He said so Salim you gather around the Imam in a time where there are so many groups and sex he said you hold with your brothers around the Imam. If there is no email that he said go and fight to them. No, he said you avoid all of them. So the issue is connected to the existence of the Imam also in nibio sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, What is the stone philtrum from Pharaoh that if you've been called to Jihad you accept who make the call is the Imam of the Muslim he has no you have been hajra Rahim Allah comment into comment on this. Also the prophets of Salaam said, Man Katara Amelia, you drew in a Serbia, Serbia for Putin for
those who fight under unknown banners. He didn't know who's the leader. You know what the goal you didn't know what's going to be stablishing and that will only happen if there is not a political entity leading the war. That's why the war never was Jihad was never established in Mecca, because there is not yet a political entity, it will be a mess. If there is a Jihad will establish without a political entity to protect them. And jihad is basically like a giant
force. It has to be controlled by the government to direct it in the government in the right way. Otherwise it will cause a lot of damage and amendment Mahadeva hammer home law sit in His sight. pod barebow new court alameen wa Eman fight should be behind the leaders behind the Imam which is the elected leader or the leader of the Muslims, the Muslims.
There are so many quotes from the Sahaba from the tablet in from the Anderson. It is one of the principles read, pick any books and aqeedah any books if
you read in it, when no party no metal jewelry will Fujio what will be your future
method. Well has Amara
and so many coats like this bottle the human tragedy, fighting and Jihad under the Imam it must to be an Imam. And this Imam cannot be just somebody claimed that Imam know the Imam is somebody who been gone through a process where the Muslim community have chosen him to be the Imam. I'm saying that because I have seen people trying to escape this point, and to allow themselves to declare war against others without the map. The only exception that I made is when somebody attacked you in your home, you don't need anybody's permission to fight to protect yourself that will be permissible.
I don't have enough time to basically go over the rest of the points that I have. But there is one thing or a few points very quickly I will mention it and related to their methodology also, in fact, I noticed that No, they don't combine by evidence. So they pick one versus one Hadeeth. But they do combine all evidence together which is making the picture clear. So if you see one verse talking about for instance, fight the good fight or whatever the you will find another verses would would state clearly fight those who are fighting you. Or you will see the practices of Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam did the prophet SAW Selim killed anybody just because he's cafard? And that's one of the
things that they claim that if somebody is non Muslims, that's enough reason for him to be killed. Which is is that how the prophets of Salaam treated them that the prophets of Solomon conquered Mecca killed everybody that the prophets of Salaam declared war against the fallen Yemen and the tribes not all of them. He fought as if nothing, Rahim Allah, Khalid Amir de la hadn't been caught, he never started a war with anybody. So Salah is that means only jihad is a defensive no jihad is it to defend the Muslims and also sometimes you initiate it if you know that this is a threat can harm the Muslims in future and based on this you will see the actions that took place by the war that
happened with the Romans and others during the time of the Prophet Solomon Abu Bakr and Abu Bakr Allah.
there is no
a time or they don't look at how also the Sahaba they'll understand the text. One of the famous texts that they always used take the Kufa out of Jerusalem so that justifying them to kill the Americans in Arabia or whatever the unexplained that in my lectures in a detailed way so don't think you need which is terrorist violence in the name of Hello
I don't think I need to say that again. But just to let you know, that the kuffar always been existent is that a lot of during the prophets of Salaam and after the process of time in the whole affair, and they were all this, but the Hadith is talking about they don't
they don't dominate they don't have a domination of the religion over the Arab peninsula and there is a big debate between the scars to define what is actually Arab Peninsula, some stricted this to Mecca and Medina also, you see, one of the issues that the always raises the issue of what I will borrow and maybe that's the last point I will talk about any form of law to the kuffaar it means your non Muslims and that's also another misunderstanding and whatnot in Arabic language it means the love and support and the love and support to make it very easy very simple to you. If you love somebody, and you support their ideologies and their belief and their religion, you became one of
Yeah, you have Latina Manuela
donousa Alia Alia Oba woman yet Allah who mean confer in whom in whom or who you believe don't take douche and Christine's earlier and it's wrong translation to say friends earlier.
Earlier the word earlier means the person that you love and you support the love and support the religion of each other's or the each other's and whoever you mean comforting a woman. Whoever among you will take them as Olia he will be among them among them.
And similar to the sort of Tillman tahina and verse number one, but listen to what the scholar said they said about this verses specifically and let me call towards him and God have said meant our level Manasa Nina for who I mean led him woman let him for in a hula tower.
I had an in law who will be he will be Dini
Robin, he said specifically here
that this will I will just take you out of a slam when you love and you support their religion. First is if a Muslim would say I love the concept that Jesus Son of God.
He's not Muslim, he became Christian. That's the end of the story. If you love that Muslims, they don't believe that. So if you love that and you support that idea, you became minimum you became among them. And that's what we call a tele wilaya Hill ama helmet law and
law. But there is another muhuali machine. I never rely on another machine, which it doesn't take you out of the fold of Islam, even though it's a sin, which is your love their sins, or your love whatever somebody says I love the concept that you can do anything that is no harm porticoed or drinking, it's allowed. I love that and I'm a supporter. Freedom is something like that. In Islam, this is became sin. This is became sin, this is became sin, he's still not haram to drink, still no haram to eat pork, but that became a major sin, or he supported them for a personal reasons. For a person. Let's say a Muslim country will support a non Muslim country because they are afraid that
their economy will go down, afraid that they might attack them. So they support them by doing things which is wrong in their country. Pressing the Muslims putting them in jail, stopping down. They don't help them things because of the collapse of the Kufa would that became kerfuffle. Listen to what discover Rahim Allah said. He said if they were not given because of a person, reason the person interest, but the belief that still exists that will became a major sins and the proof for that what happened in the term of the prophets of Salaam. When help him Nabeel tafisa he wrote a letter to the people of Croatia and said the process I'm coming to attack your country, and nobody
knows about it. It's a Trojan, he really revealed that secret. He took them out earlier. He gives them a lot of support over the Muslims.
By giving the process and secrets away, the Prophet told us to obey. I didn't make that and any go to Robert Hall and find a woman Give me the letter to end the story here. Listen to what Allah Subhana Allah said.
Yeah, you had a lady in
Turkey do i do we do welcome Odia Oh, who you believe? See he's still cold help of nebia belterra believer,
even though Allah Subhana Allah said to him, even though Allah also said that he have given to them, given what out to them. And the reason he did that, because he said, Every one of you guys have family member and I don't have anybody, so I thought maybe doing them a favor, and that's why they protect me.
Family if there is an attack will take place will take place. That's why the Roma have commented this verse by saying that there is a difference between what a Muslim general Wallah, which include love and support for their Deen. And voila, mapa de Muslim because of personal interest, and if they're giving this because of fear of pressure, in this case, there is no harm, you will not even be held accountable for that, as a citizen, sort of a learned brand surah three, verse 28, elantech, coming home, to pa bottom line, the love and support if it's related to the religion to the belief that occurred for because of personal interest because of love for sins, that our sin, and if the
love and support was given, for worldly matters commonly known between humans like all of us, regardless, our religions will always we love and support each other when it comes to fighting cancers, to fighting poverty, to providing education, which is the basics foundations that most of the word, modern work today build on love and support. This is not a Haram. It is something even the prophets of Salaam said about healthful football, that if you would be invited to participate in it, you will do it again that Coalition's to fight. What was wrong at that time? My brothers and sisters
sad when you look also that sometimes they try to change, our misquoting the colors and the roadmap just to deceive others. There is a lot to be said a lot to be discussed, I think what is the role of our civic knowledge and scholars to be aware that these extreme views are those people who claim that the defend Islam this my final point? What's the the best argument Muslims are in danger and justice happen to them? We stand up for the truth to support this lamb? Isn't that what do you hear?
The question that you asked herself? Did they support any Islam?
Did they remove any injustice? Did they brought any good?
Without him that resolved and the outcome of your actions you will recognize them as Lisa Lisa Thompson, the only broke distractions,
those who killed several 1000s in New York not far away from here, but the good they have made to humanity. What good they had made to Islam and Muslims. Oh dignity, our dignity abroad, nothing.
Nothing. The reality the reality is nothing. you wipe out two countries
and caused the invasion of two countries.
It's planned before you know what before and I don't want to transfer this lecture to be political lectures claiming that America is enemy number one America stretch their hand to have a lot of Muslims why this is a forgotten
and Bosnians and in the issue of advanced and against the Russian it is for personal interest first and this is what you want for the sake of Allah
It's so weird. You said it's further yes didn't today establish the communication with Apollo ban to have a pipelines for gas to use a power band and they were rejected by the Taliban government? Yes they looking for interest they will look for somebody else like Mr. Chairman to help them
but if you're not smart enough to know how to play the game, you don't deserve to leave the Muslim world if you didn't know how to make the decision wisely if you didn't know how to protect your people you don't deserve to be in the first line if the only thing you know it just to push the button or to blow yourself up that's not what the what that's not what's going to make a change in the future of Islam and Muslims
just ask yourself what good they have brought to the Muslims in Islam
and put all this argument in the site everything they claim that they're trying to establish by what they're doing. The only doing the opposite.
May Allah Subhana Allah you know Yeah, come with me. I'm assuming you can hire Allah minion silica and tyrian makeva or Turin about about Mr. Yabba la masala Muhammad Muhammad Ali Mohammed
Ibrahim Ali Ibrahim, thank you very much. Whatever it said is correct. It's from Allah Nova is wrong and it is for myself and I really
really deep in my heart, I encourage all of us to focus on education to learn our game. Before we rush into these issues, judging peoples and governments and individuals and war, there are so many things need, you need to deal with it in your own life in your personal life. And I think we should put our priorities straight, and to focus in what will bring prosperity and good to us as Muslims, as a citizen of, of whatever country because there's a mixed crowd you from you should be a person who bring good to the table, not to bring disasters and animosity and and problems to yourself and your family and your community. May last pata Allah, Allah Allah Allah Mohammed, thank you very much
within our salatu salam ala rasulillah.
In the time Dinesh was making the announcement real quick, I was just asking shift will lead him to the Hill about what sort of questions I can ask him, because we got a lot. And hamdulillah he told me, he said, I don't like censorship. And I don't like staged questions. So he said what the people wrote just say St. in front of everybody, so
Dinesh is right, the CDs for sale. But this q&a is not for sale. So I would definitely stay seated. Because there's some interesting questions.
So with that, inshallah, the first question is this check will lead just to look here for your talk, religious extremism in Jihad and violence is definitely a real problem today. But do you think as much as the scholars are emphasizing the Jihad and violence and these problems, maybe they're forgetting to focus on other problems, like modernism and other issues, because so many times we only hear about this type of extremism now, and nobody's talking about the other issues?
First of all, I would like to say, I agree on the concept, we should not focus on one problem, forget all the other problems. There's so many problems in the Muslim world, and in the Muslim community and other communities as well. That's why out of more than maybe
500 lectures are given America, that is three of them only about terrorism. So I don't think I'm focusing on terrorism.
That one out of all this lecture that you're going to hear today, that's the only lecture dealing with this issue. But we just try I agree with you, we have to be moderate and hamdulillah. I have, I want to tell you that this is something we really greatly take it in consideration. Yes.
Another question? Sure. If you had said in your talk, that jihad is an Islamic word and a beautiful word, could you just give a comment explaining what you meant by that?
Jihad and slap the word Jihad comes from a Jew
which is struggling when you put so much work and emphasis and effort on something
else Jihad has so many meanings that no am Rahim Allah said it has five different meanings. You can read that in southern ad, and it's available in English as well. As you have not only necessarily means fighting with carrying weapons and fighting enemies, no. Jihad can be with words, as Allah subhanaw taala said which are hidden behind Jihad and Kabira you fight the kuffar with the Quran, use the Quran as a tool of jihad. So it is an intellect Jihad struggle. Also Jehan Machina be Amani Come on fusi come, where Id come on synergy come
perform Jihad agonist and we should kill with your wealth with your money with your tongue and with your hands. So the jihad is a very common word.
The process of them also said for Hadith Sahih
Hadith Anasazi Allahu Allah that the prophets of Salaam said the best Mujahid or the best form of jihad, when you stood up in front of and just ruler and you tell him the truth, and you confront him with the truth then he will might excuse your kill you see, it's a very noble way you stand up in front of me talk to him, there's no penetrating there is no deceiving.
It's very straightforward. You stand up and you talk to him.
That's basically some examples of how the word Jihad was used and other than the physical terms, tangible way which is carrying weapons and fighting someone.
So for us Jihad for Muslim jihad is a system
To ensure that when there is a Muslim state, that the way they declared wars peace, basically
equal to what known today the defense ministers state security, defense, Secretary of Defense something like that whatever rules will govern the Muslims basically in this area that what we call it a Baba jihad, the chapters of jihad.
This is a this is combining a question that many people ask, shake does ocular care you touched upon some history in your lecture. And you mentioned Afghanistan in the 1980s 70s. And 80s was a great thing. Can you differentiate that Afghanistan and today is what is happening today also a noble Jihad? Is something happening today also the good type of jihad that we should all be proud of? Can you please elaborate?
First of all, on the ages, the Jihad was from the Muslims, the
Muslims groups, even though it was not something we were happy with pleased with, that they were more than seven groups
fighting, and they're not united together in the fight against the Russian.
And I remember personally not talking about somebody else, talking to some of the leaders of these groups, like I've got to say, yeah, funny, listening to their talk and raising these questions to them saying, if you are seven groups now, how many you will be when the war finished?
If in the time before your seven after war, how many groups you're going to be? And what I anticipated and so many others at that time happen? That after the Russian are defeated and pull out from one, Stan, what was 1994? Maybe something like that. I'm not good in numbers. But anyway,
whenever they pulled out of Milan, Stan, the word Civil War started the Civil War started. And until today, you see there is a civil war happening and understand that one, Stan and the Iraq issue is not America versus bonobo is not America or NATO vs. Balaban is not America versus NRP. That's wrong way to put it. That's not the reality. The reality is there is a group of the Afghani people, with the Americans against some of the Muslims and of honestok there is Iraqi people, with Americans against some of the Iraqi people. I please now for the time being even forget about how it starts. Now. You have a government in place, you have a system in place, and it became the war. It's a civil
war inside that country inside that country. And is that a reason for a person to say that the government will be cafard have been hasn't bought him alive, even though he's a very strong person in his opinion. He said, no doubt, it's one of the worst worst sins to use the kuffar in war against your own brothers, so you can take over the country. But he said, I don't see any text and Koran or sadhana or he will say that such person Capita and he said that in in mohalla Rahim Allah to Allah.
So, one of the things that they always used, they just say this governor is Kaffir, to the government to so far to justify basically the war against them. And upon stand today it is it has a government, regardless of how good or bad this government just or unjust it is. I think that funny people needed and maybe regret talking about the past. But I think these are in a group of a loving group, instead of dragging the Taliban to a war against the world. They should put their effort to stablish into strength, that young stage towards coming up, instead of pushing it toward the direction that it gets them nowhere get the know where hamdulillah Allah spirit, Allah has the
wisdom behind whatever happened. But no doubt today it is a civil war happening there. What Muslims are going to some Muslims, so and in such fight, it's very clear the Muslim order to avoid such situation going there and to fight under which banner under Who? For what for what cause, what's the goal? What's the establishment, that is going to happen after that? This is what I call it PETA title right in EMEA, you go to war under unknown banners. And no doubt I have no doubt in my heart, that such participation in such from the people
on going and doing such things is not a correct action.
Okay, Bismillah Allah, this is going to be the last question at this point because we have other lectures as well. And I've just been told by my brother Dinesh that we have some guests here who are here to see the shake some media and other guests. But in traveling, there will be a comprehensive question and answer session tonight. And all of the Institute instructors are very approachable for people who have questions. So with that this will be the last question for this session.
And again, this is paraphrasing multiple questions that were like this share you in your lecture, you mentioned different organizations. What about organizations like Hamas that are more complex, they do a lot of good. They do social services, they set up schools, they help the community. But maybe they also have certain wings that are extreme, or maybe certain wings that do have some problems as well. Do you have any comments about organizations like that?
I was talking about the community like trend for these terrorist groups and individual, the avoid to be part of the community avoid to have part of the community.
As for talking about the examples of Hizbollah and social work that they do, and Lebanon, I never been there, I don't have really my own research about them or Hamas itself. So talking about them in detail, that will be another issue. But let me tell you what I know. And Hezbollah says she organizations even the support goes to she regroups among them, even that money that the given distribute goes to the Shia to the shear even though the banner that the declare that they carry is the banner of nationalism. But if you remember of Israel, I have to be shield which is a contradiction, which is a country that how can you talk about nationalism and only recognize the
shear to be part of you, even as a listener? They're the their participation in fighting the occupation in southern Lebanon, in southern Lebanon, in Masada, Shabbat, for example, there were so many people they never been recognized by the media or by them, and their contribution never was mentioned. It is a very
close minded group and Hezbollah and
we know the history of Hezbollah and terrorizing Muslims and Sunnis, the killing that took place by the hand of MN, who eventually dissolve and basically became part of his villa and Sabra and Shatila is something will not be forgotten, the Palestinians that they have suffered and killed by the hand of the Shia militia.
And the extreme Christians in Russia as well and
in Lebanon, it's something we handle I still have our memory fresh and we
remember it that they have done a lot of acts of terrorism, but you might be helping and aiding for a political reasons like giving money and food for recruiting reasons for recruiting reasons as for Hamas, they're not included in the group that I'm talking about today. Hamas it wasn't elected. It was an elected government and also Hamas has nothing to do with either Hamas has nothing to do with Hamas it is a political issues putting it
listing it in a terrorist group what defined terrorists is not the State Department for us what define terrorist group is not the nature would define terrorists for Muslims scholars like my fellow students knowledge like myself, it will be the Quran and sydnor the Koran the Islamic law or the terrorist group or not, we might I might disagree with them in certain issues and one of the issues I disagree with it completely the suicide bombing that something I don't believe it is allowed even if it's done in Tel Aviv even it's done to an anywhere I don't believe that is correct but that's a personal opinions and I take as for them, they are different completely from the the group that I'm
Okay with that in Trello we're breaking as I said, you can ask to shake other questions in the q&a, but not right now. There's two brothers waiting at the stairway who are gonna block you from asking the shake anything and they're taking him straight to visit with the media. See the these topics bring the media out. Also, I just want to say that when I talk about this, my speeches you notice it's not directed to the media. Any
Because I believe I can talk to the media. But I know I don't want to talk to you more important to me than the media.
Those who will hear these tapes later on, were more important to me that I'm not waiting for any recognitions. Or, you know what I stop every time I fly like you guys. You know, I came to Baltimore, I was stopped in the airport, the last person to maybe to enter the airplane. And I don't care. Because I say what I say because I believe it's correct. And that's when I said the nature of the Muslim community is to fight terrorism, the nature of the Muslim community to stand up for the truth, even if it is against ourselves when we can, even if he is a friend or a family member, we will stand for the truth and stop the abuser from abusing others will love it.