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Waleed Basyouni

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.

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Just a correction, I did not get my PhD from Miami University. I got my bachelor and my master's degree in the imaam University in Saudi Arabia.

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But to my doctor, and I got my PhD, I had it from graduate theological Foundation, Indiana,

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just for the record, as a correction Jazakallah Hara Dinesh, and thank you for having me. And this platform, actually should be our platform, since I'm the Vice President of Alibaba. And I would like to say, thank you all for coming and sharing with us this wonderful two days, which is inshallah will be full of beneficial knowledge for all of us.

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That's one of the most important goal that we see can Institute, that we expose ourselves and our community, to the knowledge, and to make sure that what motivates us what that what control, basically, our mind, is education, education is the best way for any community to prevail or to be strong. That's why we care a lot about or that's actually our main focus is an organization educational organization, to spread the knowledge and

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between our brothers and sisters.

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It is a picture very hard to forget.

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It's that image

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that you might sell it as well.

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And TV,

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when you see that young man, full of life, energy,

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and even you can tell from the way he dress, the way he look, the way he talks, that he's a religious person,

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motivated, committed, willing to do anything you can imagine, for his religion, or for what he think is correct, and true.

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Some of them may be wearing that black turban

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and next to him collection Cove with

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or a machine gun. And some even striped themselves with bombs. And declaring his was the year his well, his last words in the studio.

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Then in a few seconds, this image goes away, then another image Come on the TV screens of somebody who blow himself up. And his body is all over the US faults of the street or in the bus or in that building the tea decide to attack

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with him.

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Maybe nobody is the only one dead. And that image. And sometimes other few people's children's woman's older people, the streets happen to be in the subway that they happen to be in his office in that day, or sometimes even soldiers

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and government officials.

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Then you see after that image,

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the family members and the respond of the media and the community, how they react to such incident.

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It is an image that I cannot put my head on the sand and I claim that I never saw.

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It is an image that no one can claim that never exist.

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Those people who dress that way to imitate some leaders.

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The sad part is those young men and sometimes woman they will die while their leaders watching them.

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They threw them in this in the middle of this war to bled to blow themselves up and to kill themselves and others while they are watching.

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It is sad when you see the mother and the parents been crying over the death of the sons or been humiliated and sometimes arrested and all the friends and the family members and the question

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sequences of actions and allow only knows how far these actions can reach the consequences of this action can reach.

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Sometimes you don't see him even dead. That person, you see, that person's surrounded with a 10s of soldiers and FBI agents or other agencies and other places in the world, captured him before he did anything. And what happened to him, he just basically ended his life by spending the rest of his life behind bars, and so many times will be even executed and killed.

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You know,

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whatever happened to family members, the reaction, the backlash that the community will suffer from such action. That's a terrible things. But really, for me,

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the real issue that this young man died, while he or she think that they are doing something good, the last The only chance that they have in their life when they participated in that war, or in that suicide mission. And that's reminded me of what Abdullah

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said to a young group of Muslims in his town came to him and offered him the opportunity to participate in a war against unjust ruler, a killer emergency dictator, his name and had judge in the news of

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the rebel against him under the leadership of Russia. And they came to me said, join us this is Jihad visibilty law. What is better than you sacrifice your soul for the sake of Allah?

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In the Masha

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Allah have purchase the souls and the money of the believers that they give it up for the sake of Allah. So Allah give them gender, what do you want more than that?

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That's the language that they used.

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But the reaction of that wise color, wise worshiper was like this. He said, what you are in, is a matter of confusions.

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It's not clear that you are upon the truth.

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And I don't believe that this is correct what you're doing.

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And I have only one so I have one live, I have only one chance, if I die, I will never be received back to this world in life to correct what I have done wrong.

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So I will rather in the Day of Judgment, not to be asked why you killed somebody, than to be asked why you have not participated.

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Those young men who lost their chance by going in a such path

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will never be justified their actions if their intention is good. Are they trying to do what is correct? Because Allah Subhana Allah said, All hell Luna bucum bill x arena, Amana alladhina, Lhasa home Phil hayati, dunya wahoo, NASA buena and homeopathy na sana, you want to know about those the most losing people.

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Those who will do things in this worldly life and they are loser in the Day of Judgment they lose they don't gain anything out of this action that they have done. Even though they thought they are doing the best.

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They will Masood Rahim Allah put it correctly. biochemie Marie de Lille highroller

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La Jolla.

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Man addendum he reported that he told a group of

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people who did something not according to the Sharia, he told them they told him we only intend to good good intention is not enough.

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Then it will Michelle said so many people intend to do something good but they have not done what you really you did something wrong.

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My brothers and sisters

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I lost my witness. That the only reason I except to talk about the subject even though it was not my suggestion, but I never had a hesitation to talk about this subject because the love that I have

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For this young Muslims, brothers and sisters, who I know that so many of them, motivated by the love for the religion, and the frustration of the political, the poor political situation that the Muslims are going through these days.

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And also for the love for those people who have been deceived by certain groups, and certain individuals, who knows how to talk maybe more eloquently than me. And they know how to quote, a verse from here and a hadith from there to deceive those Muslims who are not fully aware and really educated, well educated in the subjects, and it ends up that those young people or old will end up corrupting their Deen and the dunya. Their first live and the second because my brothers and sisters, there is nothing worse after after committing, associating the loss of Hannah to Anna, than killing a person than killing an innocent person. When levena

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among

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those who do not call upon other than Allah subhanaw taala to worship other than Allah

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seletti have Rama long

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one

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and the second Crime The second major sin was mentioned here is basically killing on a soul that Allah subhanaw taala for Bade forbade to be killed, and the third sin that they commit fabrication. Allah said about those who do such things you borrow

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their punishment will be doubled in the day of judgment or follow the fee move on and they will stay for it in a very long time in this punishment, except those who repent to Allah and will do good deeds.

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You have on your Rasul Allah what is the worst sin Yeah, Rasul Allah.

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He said, and tendu Amar Allah He needs

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to pray to other than Allah and Allah is the one who created you data from it, then what? Tyler and tuck to the wallet the common law, that you will kill your son because of the fear of poverty.

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Tanzania beheaded it jarick that you will commit adultery to fornicate with your neighbor's wife, Carla, this the prophets are seldom mentioned the greatest three sins that can ever be committed. And he mentioned the worst case scenario of each case. The worst case scenario when it comes to worshipping other than Allah that you pray to other than God than Allah, and he's the one who created you. This is the worst form of disbelief and the worst form of killing to kill your own son. And the worst case when it comes to fornication to fornicate with your wives and the neighbor's wife.

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So as also Nabi sallallahu Sallam said layer several Muslim Murphy first Hatton Min De mela Musa demand Karana, you aren't easy, unless you will cause to injure to kill someone.

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My brothers and sisters, I wish that tonight we will open our hearts and mind

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for dialogue and education.

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And

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to open our mind to discuss or to listen at least two points of views that I'm going to raise today, regard to some of the issues that I believe it was raised by those extreme groups over the internet used mainly to motivate or to justify the act of terrorism, which has been taken against Muslim and non Muslims as well in North America, in Europe, and the Middle East, in so many countries and over across the globe.

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And to clarify the truth from the false hood, because the nature of any deviant sects or groups that appeared in Islam, that nobody comes and say, You know what, I'm wrong I dis announced Islam and this is nobody's saying that everybody has to back his or to back that argument with evidence, evidence from court and all sudden, that was the case from the very early time.

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During the history of Islam, but

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here there is an important point, which is a lot of force trained, educator raised. And none of Muslims also raised that sometimes when I talk about this issue, that question will come, and how do you know that you are upon the truth?

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Ie they claim that they are upon the truth. And they said, there is no solutions that some of the Muslim would say, you shield student of knowledge comes and talk to the Muslim community, telling them whatever you want to tell, but still, at the end of the day, they're going to tell whatever dinner and no final basically, decision will be made. This is maybe applicable to, as I said to a lot of people who have Western background or Christian background in general and to be specific.

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In Islam, it is a little bit different. In Islam, we don't have that lose in

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in certain areas. Yes, there is a diversity in our budget that has different opinions or accepted different fields. But also we have something we can also come out and be Sharia principles, foundations, that no argue about it. And that's what we use against those, basically, those groups and these extreme groups. In Islam, we have a concept that's called innovations in religion. And those innovations are leading to the Hellfire as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, it is not the first time for Muslim to deal with such groups. It's not the first time that we have an extreme group in any areas and the militant groups or even an ideologist to deal with them. And it's been

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clear for the history of Muslims, that they were of hamdulillah the mainstream and to isolate these ideas, and they were always minority, and they will remain because the shape on the site and always has people that he will be able to deceive and to take them astray. But to loss of Hannah to Allison in noona zelner Victrola in anahola, half moon, we have sent down a vicar, we have sinned down the Koran, and we are going to protect it. And the protection of the religion as have been hasm Rahim Allah wrote a beautiful article about this and also, that the protection of the religion is not only by protecting the text, it's also by protecting the understanding the correct understanding of the

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text, that it has to be protected, and how to be protected as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, Terry palmateer Allah, Sabina Sherpa could not have enough our farofa in LA Haider condimentum Yasser Allah, Allah Allah, Allah Helio masabi that the prophets of Salaam told us that there will be a division in a woman Yasmin confessor, Tina Fey and Kathy era whoever will live among you will see a lot of divisions happen to the Muslims, and this divisions among Muslims will be even where it will be greater than the division have been among Christians and Jews.

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But the difference that in among religions before us, there is no one there's no sect there is no group been promised to be always victorious and clearly recognized as the group upon the truth. But in the case of Muslim he said, laughter xalapa if a minute material happy Matsuura vorhandene Anima cada home, they're all will be victorious, they will be always recognized, recognized by the methodology that they follow the common sense that they have that foundations and the principle that they are holding into it. That's why there is no one ever invented an innovation in religion, or establish a sect and religion unless you will see him clearly or her contradict themselves, or will

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contradict a clear text and Quran and evidence. And this statement is not just a statement I'm saying intellectual. This is a statement made by scholars world founded in religion, experts when it comes to the history of sex such as sacred Islam. Ibn taymiyyah Rahim Allah Allah, Allah am Rahim Allah

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and if I need to coach I'm willing to

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just

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an example of a been Tamia Rahim Allah said in the TED Maria he said

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that

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everything that the innovators tried to establish and to avoid

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by inventing new principles or ideas in religion, they will end up contradicting themselves by doing what is worst by doing what is worst. And another time of Notre Dame Rahim Allah says a very general statement said what couldn't no man asked for us.

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Surah panda who Casa de la the Sunnah, and the introduction of his great book, she found a lien. He said everybody in IV invented in religion, a principle that is not in the religion, it will lead him to reject a text from Quran and Sunnah. And the both have given hundreds and 10s of examples of the practices of these sects. I'm not here to talk about this particular the history of sects in Islam, I do have already a set of CDs, you can see has some examples not necessarily directly related to the subject, but it is no doubt incorporate with the subject in general.

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My brothers and sisters, the issue of innovations in religion, it's an issue been documented, it's clear we know how to recognize innovations from what is said innovations of religion from what is sin, those group that I'm talking about today are not new.

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There is a similar group, even though my personal opinion that not so many of these extreme groups that adopt

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that

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the methods of attacking and killing government and non Muslims in general, like

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the mill jihad in Egypt and what known today as a jab, enemy, Muhammad Ali be the international coalition of Muslim sects to declaring war against Christians and Jews, which is have them Lima jihad in Egypt bellenden and two groups from Pakistan and Bangladesh have signed that coalition treaty or documentation in, in the 1998. In 1998, such group they are not new, such ideologies and the argument that they came up with also in North Africa and in Egypt, there are so many different groups as well, in Europe, in America, you will find here and there people who adopt certain ideologies that as I said, it's not new in its nature. It is something known from long time ago.

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There is a time came where Muslims politically we're in unrest.

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There is unrest, political situations, and also what some Muslims have seen change in the leadership in the government, where they notice or they claim that there is a corruption in the government. And that wasn't the time of Earth marble of the law and water law. And that led them to change what they thought is a corruption by killing Earth man. When there is a fight between Muslim leaders earlier on the law and more our we are under severe three major, basically, leaders here and there is a fight happened between them. There is a group of Muslims said this is not acceptable. This is wrong. They are all against the Sharia. What is the solution? Let's assassinate them, kill them, and to get

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rid of the problem.

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And those people develop later on, they start something we call it the Galleria, and they end up in a very well known sect in the history for summit called alcoholic. And I definitely recommend Muslim to revisit and to study those group. Because it may be so seldom send us a Muslim, Tyler lyocell una una de la Rosa de Jan, they will always come and appear in your society in your community until the misfold Messiah appear. So they will be always exist in the Muslim world or among Muslims, or in the word in general until the end of the days basically.

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I believe not necessarily all of these groups are hawara. Because one of the basic argument those people will come and tell you, I don't believe if you commit major sin, your cafe and the hawara coverage, you believe that?

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You believe that Allah cannot be seen in the Day of Judgment. And we don't believe that. He believes that there is no intercession for the sinners in the division. We don't believe in that. We believe in the Salafi appeal of understand that there is intercession in the day of judgment that when you commit a medicine you will not be careful by drinking alcohol.

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With that freedom from that label. No. As a matter of fact,

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If you look at how the early Muslim generation used to consider somebody from Hawaii, or not it not necessarily by these ideologies, it is by the Spirit that practices actually they said, Men hemella, safer for women. This is the only description you will find among the early generations and I'm talking about the first 300 years of Islam, those who carry weapons, those who feel that the way to basically to get their message across it will be by carrying weapons and fighting and killing innocent people. Sometimes, you see people have the spirit of marriage, not the methodology of heart, not the believer of the heart, the spirit of a commodity, and that can be exist in so many

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people. For instance, those who rush and go hasty to say you are a hypocrite, you are cafard you are moqtada you are this you are that this is the spirit of a commodity, those who always concentrate on criticizing and attacking their brothers and sisters. It is the spirit of those who are extreme in their views. Even in the worshiping God it's a spirit of a college.

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I was told about a man whenever he decided the Quran, he will immediately fall unconscious. Oh, I've been moved by the verses and fall unconscious. She said this is from a coverage. This man from a cottage

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had been rumored said the same thing as recorded by lilica and had been walked by and others Why? Because the spirit, she said was horrible Mohammed candle at Kaku, Birmingham, Womack, and Talia Khurana Allah.

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The prophet SAW Selim companion, they were more righteous than them. And none of them did what they doing. So this is an important point here to differentiate between also the spirit of a commodity those groups might have, and not necessarily the ideology, or the ideological believes that the hell out of us to have.

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Today, I think it is important to talk about the subject, because I don't want to be among some of my brothers, who unfortunately, still insisting that this is not a problem. After all, what we hear today, and the news, and we seen, and we personally dealt with this, insisting that this is not a major problem to deal with. They are just some of them so naive, or so I don't know what to call. But this is all this exaggeration is made by the CIA, or the Mossad, or the Muslim governments, they made them otherwise, there is no such groups.

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So Panama,

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I don't know when such people will wake up.

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Also, some brothers and sisters, or some students knowledge will not like to talk about the subject, because for some reason, because the other side, there's so many injustice happened by the hand.

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The government of the United States against Muslims worked so many injustice that we don't agree with, happening against the Muslims and Palestine, by the hand of Israel's, and there's so many investors have been to Muslims, individuals happening to the Muslims, inside the Muslim country, by the hand of so many dictators and governments. So they think if you talk about these groups, you will justify what you don't agree with, which is done by any country, Muslim or non Muslims. And I believe that's not fair. That's not right. One mistake, plus one mistake will never make one correct, it will make two mistakes, you need to say that what is happening in the Muslim country by

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the hand of Muslims or by the government of us or any country in the world, if you believe and you think it is wrong, you stand up. And you argue that and you make your point. And a lot of people 1000s of people have made their points clear that they agree or disagree with their government of the opposition towards one case or another. But this will never justify us also to remain silent and to turn our back or our face to the other direction and let these groups grow. And when some student of knowledge did that, and I remember that as if it was yesterday in Saudi Arabia. When I used to talk with some individuals, and I told them you should come across and talk clearly about such

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individuals who these ideas growing. They said, No, no, don't worry.

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To them, there are so many injustice happening them, let them put pressure in the government, what happened, the things have gotten out of hand

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out of hand, and we all of a sudden we hear every other month about people blowing them up sova in a compound, or in a government building or assassinating,

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a government official. Now they regret that they have not token early about this issue. So I think it is an essential, it is important for us to be brave, and to admit that we do have a problem. But the good news is, the good news is that the nature of the Muslim community

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to fight terrorism,

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the nature of the Muslim community is to reject extremism. That's the nature of our community. Somebody was telling me once it is the Muslim community responsibility to fight terrorism, I said, I have better way to put it. The Muslim community naturally reject extremism. Actually, it's a terrain.

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For those who have gone extreme, or those extreme people, you know which community they belong to the community of forums, the community of internet, but they never been active in their community, you will never see them actively work in social works, you will never see them organizing a blood drive, you will never see them carrying canned foods to the homeless, you will never see them work in a massage, or a Muslim community. Because this environment is so healthy, this environment is busy with what is beneficial. And it's very hard for such person to fit in.

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That's why you always go and find them only online, or wherever they will be hiding. And this not only in the West, by the way, even in the Middle East, even in the Muslim country, you will see them always away from the community.

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reclaiming Islam from the jihadists, I have to declare this and to say it very clear, that's not the title I have chosen. Actually, it was given to me. And I'm not 100%. And I said that when the title was given to me, but even I'm the Vice President, but we have kind of democracy Institute. That doesn't mean I have to enforce my belief on them. But what I think but I said, I will make that comment.

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I believe that this name, not an accurate name, and I will never use it if it's only my choice, because that's provoke others. And indeed, it did so, and maybe make people angry. And the last thing I want to do is to make anybody angry. That's not my goal. My goal is to guide you. My goal is to stretch my hand not to hit you with my hand to welcome you.

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I don't want anyone when you hear this lecture, because of the title, we'll take a defensive position. You know what I'm holding it to No, you're taking it from me. No, no, no, that's, that's not what I want. I want you to open your mind and your eyes, and to listen to the evidence to listen to the elders among the scholars to look around and to see the picture. Clear, not only the way that had been put in front of you,

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I also believe that this title, have done an injustice to the word jihad. Because I believe those people that I'm talking about the don't deserve the word Jihad this because the word jihad is a beautiful word is an Islamic word, with the whole word used to know the word jihad in a very beautiful way. When the 80s you hear about the Mujahideen and the Mujahideen and the Mujahideen in Afghanistan,

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but those people who have taken this word or say we are jihad, jihad is far away from what they're doing. What they're doing is buggy transgressions, is the volume and justice abusing murderous

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patella, they not this is not what the Jihad that Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam have came up with. So in the old days, the Howard used to call themselves a Schrott those who sold their souls to Allah, they sold their souls to Allah.

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Did anyone of the Muslim scholars agree on this name? No, they never called them this because they don't deserve it. Because they were liars. The coven by the name that the the they deserve. Akasha v azada. Alibaba, these names How are

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you never find one of these things.

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Have a good old meaning

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to I don't think that they I need to reclaim hamdulillah they are minority they never took or hijack Islam but no doubt in media they were a perfect example to be used to some media not all of them have to be also very clear some media out of ignorance and sometimes not they might think or generalize in their terms against Islam and Muslim by linking Islam to such ideologies such I geologies

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a lot of people been deceived by such people for two reasons. One because their appearance because they look religious they have big beer the code on the memorize the Quran

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and I just want to remind everyone here with what amendment Buhari and Muslim reported in the sorry that the prophets of Salaam said from Hadith Alibaba, Alibaba Group sahabas

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the prophets of Salaam said there is a group will come. When you compare your prayer to their pray the way you pray to the way they pray. And he talks about to about the companions of Muhammad. You compare the campaigners of Mohammed's prayer and salt fasting and the way they respond to the way those groups read Koran and fast and pray.

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Your prayer will seems to be like nothing compared to them. Stepney so righteous See, pray a lot.

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Una salata Camila Salatin was Yama Camilla cm.

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language I was Rihanna Jerome. But reading Quran will not travel farther than the throat, it means we don't understand it. It doesn't go to the brain. They don't understand they just read it. They just coating it, or it will not travel to the sky, what Allah subhanaw taala except the deeds, that will not, he said, laying the whole genome in Islam layer done a lady leave and exit Islam and they will never come back to it. And because of this, I believe also that some of those extreme people who have gone so far, I have so much big doubt that they will ever come back. And I don't care much about talking to them.

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Because I think they've done The Prophet said the exit, they never come back, you read 10s of companions and successors, and early scholar said, so he will be

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an innovator who never repent. And they always connect this to the heart.

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You see me Vichy romiley Akari, whatever you repent, but how did you Julie the don't, the status why. And that's one of the dangerous thing, if you take that route and you go deep in it, it might be so dark that you never get lost, you cannot never come back.

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in a dark room, Laughlin cotton was removed. If I ever meet the owl kill them all, I will destroy them all in the same manner as Allah destroyed the people of

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color kind of home shampoo

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in Santa Monica,

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whoever killed them, he will be rewarded or fight and he will be rewarded. Anyway. As I said, I'm not saying that they are the heart, they are the Hillary but they have the spirit of such people. So don't let the look deceive you. Don't let the turban and the big beard and that deceive you know.

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It is what they call it, what they base their argument on to what led a lot of people to be deceived by the most of the difficult a lot of scholars, a lot of world non recognized colors, like you've been telling me are human 100 rojava. And

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they have a big Kathy, they use this a lot to appear as of the art people who base their argument in fundamentals and foundations and so on.

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And we will give an examples of shall of how this is not accurate or

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fully true.

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I would like to make

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a point here are a declaration I gave before several lectures two lectures are close to the subject. And I have used a word in it. And it raised a lot of attention at that time. And a lot of people talk to me about and I would like to say

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that I said these lectures something in that light that the people who have come to participate in the war in Afghanistan in the 80s of the Mujahideen that I remember

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But I know a lot of people in that time when it was young men in, in, in Arabia, and I see a lot of people going there, there were people who couldn't make any difference in their life. They're not successful family in their society. And they ended up going that I believe that generalizing those words is not accurate is not correct on our solar smart Allah to forgive me from it. And I think that's not the correct point to make that general statement. Because among the people who went to the Jihad that I want to send in the 80s, sincere men and woman, and they were not losers, they were successful people who went in that time to fight the Russian. And how shall I say that I meant to

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generalize, there's a lot of funny, sincere brothers and sisters sacrificed their lives, and their family died in the process of liberation, of understand from the Russian. And I think it will not be fair to make a general statement, but I was talking about a group of people, a certain group of you who later on formulate these extreme views and ideas. So just to make sure that this is clear.

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So basically, we talking about the people who

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we talk about the people who spread extreme views in such a manner to encourage people to kill or injure or destroy, Urban's or kill innocent people, Muslims or non Muslims, attacking and transgression turns aggressive to transgress against Muslim or non Muslims as well, in a Muslim country or a non Muslim country, as long as there is no status of a clear war on our talk about this, because this is an area where they play the game. Oh, there is a war, we have a war. Okay, so that's justify what we don't know. But I'm talking specifically about this group that I mentioned earlier, like allied and people who are circling around their ideology circle and their ideologies.

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And also, I would like to praise the brave decisions of certain leaders of these groups who have left these ideologies, like Jemaah Islamiyah in Egypt,

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in Libya, in Saudi Arabia, sort of certain individuals have declared that they have left and repented from such ideologies, and even posted in the internet, very beneficial books written in Arabic, and I hope that it was also provided in English for English speakers as well as well. So this is something give us hope, inshallah, and it is an indication for those young brothers and sisters who basically impressed by these groups, to see the other side of the coin, and to see from inside, what exactly it used to look like. Like when we talk about the history of a man of Allah, Harry, and people like that, you will see totally different picture of what may be have engraved in

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your mind about such individuals.

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I would like to say that terrorism and extremism all was based on two pillars, one, those who supported terrorism, by ideologies by justifying the actions, and those who supported it by weapons by carrying the weapons. And if there is a person who have both, this is the most dangerous person will be, but that is to group people leave, never carry weapons, but they give the ID this spread and the idea. And I think for the Muslim community, for the student of knowledge, the role of should be always or this is the nature of our community, and Hamdulillah, to reject and to fight these ideologies. And we should not wait for the government. And I'm talking specifically about America

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here. We should not wait for the government to invite the government to fight the ideologies, because the moment the government stepped in to fight ideologies, the moment you might be losing a lot of your civil rights. That should be the community role. And that's the role that we expecting from it, that you want the government to watch from a distance, but we as a community, take care of these ideologies talk about it, open the dialogue, make to ensure that it is will be clearly addressed, and basically opposed by the community. But when it comes, and basically we will be the front row here in fighting terrorism, and any agencies or government agencies should be just from

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the back you should not be involved. Only the involve if the law was broken if the law was broken, because before breaking the law, there is a big gap and a distance and as much as you let the government involved

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Before the law was broken, as much as losing left and right from your rights as the civil rights, but whenever the situation turned to be an act of rolls, by causing harm or a real threat to the security of the citizen of any country, in this case, our role will be to pull back. And that's the government basically role to ensure that such damage will not take place such terrorist act will never be taking place to protect the citizen of its own country.

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Usually, my brothers and sisters, terrorist group, justify the take their support from the reaction of government power, you know, a lot of time you don't hear what caused the problem every time they talk about how the government's reacted to them. So they talk a lot about how the Muslims were torture in the jails, but by what have triggered the whole thing, it will be lost in the dialogue. So as much as aggressive reaction from government, as much as these people justify for themselves, and feel a lot of people supporting them and temporarily from people. And that should not be a way to fool us to forget about what caused the problem from the beginning, from the beginning. So many

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times terrorist group or extreme group distort their ideology is based riddled in a fair case, but not in a fair and just way of treating it. Palestine, it's a fair case, but the way that it might be used, and the justification that happened because of it will not be necessarily fair. A portion is something not very good, but to go and blow up a clinic of abortion clinic. That's not right, or a fair way of dealing with it.

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Using users and basically corrupting people's financially and selling drugs and alcohol, it's a bad thing. But to go to blow up certain Institute's and killing people there, that's definitely is how long is how long.

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So

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they might have a just case, but they don't have a just means, basically, to the case that they want to discuss. So we should also keep that in mind when we talk about this group.

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Okay.

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One of the things that I have noticed,

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by studying or reading about the ideologies of these extreme groups, there is very fast trend of changes. And this split very quickly. So it starts with one case, all of a sudden, you start as a big sinners, then you end up biggest hypocrites, then the biggest Kaffir, then the most enemy of Islam, that you see how it starts, America is bad, then it is the worst, then it is number one, and it is. And now it's one case, 2345. It's very fast, the chain, so many issues will be raised. And that's create a sense of confusion and make it very hard to have a debate or a dialogue, a dialogue, and also shows you how far can it goes, it goes with fighting the people who the bad, then the

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people who live with them, then the people who aged them, then the people who live around them to see how's that work. So in the beginning, this is a suicide bombing, it can be done in a case of fighting the war, then after that it became go to a place where there is government, and then you go to public place, then ended up even killing himself. And they said that's fine because he raised awareness, see how the change from one level to another from one level to another. Also

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it's it's it's interesting, once it is war against the government of certain country, in the beginning, for example, of jihad in Egypt has this declaration that they only focus in fighting Egyptian government. They call it a duel Karim, Allah, either will bury the enemy who's next door or its priority for us to fight him then the one who faraway, so, they never fought any western country anything like that. And after years, after more than 1400 people killed in this process

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by the factual and by the basically the instruction that giving by a velocity and people like him.

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They come later on to say we were wrong. We should not do that we should not focus on this after killing more than 40

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100 people

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1300 of them are among the Muslims, among the gyptian citizens over a course of less than seven years.

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Then you change. And now he said, which is very weird, the enemy are the whole word. There is an open war against Christians and Jews everywhere in the world, and America and Europe and South America and everywhere.

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It is a dramatic change very fast, in unexpected. Also, there are so many contradictions in the approach. First in those extreme groups, the calling for the justice of Islam, and the implementation of the Sharia, and the protecting of human rights, and the first one, to, to validate over us to basically not paying attention to human rights, to not applying justice and not applying the Sharia as rules. These extreme groups, they asked people to make incredible mooncup to basically fight what is evil and themselves doing what is evil.

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When you read the fatwa of some of the leaders, when he said it is permissible to go to burn, a video stores or alcoholic places that alcohol and even if this is will cause to burn the whole building than in Egypt, a building will accommodate hundreds of family, they will end up in the street, that's fine. That's not evil. That's not wrong. To go to Mohammed or Sophie's gather and to through an eyeball or a bomb in the middle of the gathering. That's okay, because that's in current mooncup. If somebody die or burn, that's fine.

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To go to a Shia mosque and to blow it up with the kids and children and everybody, that's fine. That's in current mooncup.

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It is contradiction when somebody just fresh Muslim, fresh young man or woman, come back to Islam want to practice Islam, the first thing you do you wrap him up with a bomb and you go blow yourself up. But isn't that person need to take his time in worshipping Allah Subhana? Allah? Where does the telopea What is their dad? Did the prophets of Salaam used to do that?

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contradiction when you hear them in England, and living off the social system in Europe and the United States, they taking their pension their checks from the government that they declare war against it?

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Isn't that contradictions, contradiction when your own country wants to kill you when there is a civil war in your country, and not a single Muslim country?

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Open the doors to take the refugee of these countries who had a civil wars

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where they ended up in America and in Europe, who opened the doors, these countries

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and the return you plot against them as a contradictions, contradictions when you ask people to blindly follow and obey the meal and not to obey their parents.

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It is contradiction when you claim that you follow the scholars

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like almost quoting Chevron

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treaty been talking about. But whenever it comes their statements against them. They just announced them immediately.

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They talk about

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him, Mohammed Ibrahim and called him but he never did forget that he was one of the pillars

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of the Saudi government that they believe it is the most evil government.

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Why why the country why you pick his opinion and in every man's Allah and now you forget about his practices.

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My brothers and sisters,

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Jihad there is no need for me to talk about the virtues of jihad. Because this will establish I don't need me or anybody else. It is one of the pillars and one of the fundamentals on Sharia and no need for exaggeration or somebody say oh talk about the importance of it we know about but let me explain some important facts about jihad. Al Islam came to establish a society a civil society. in this society, you will have something called Justice Department like what we have just to make it simple to be understood. We have a system for how the state work how the Muslim state work. You have a system how the judge have to practice his

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Word job how the policeman has to work as we call it in Islam nilambur hisbah how there is a financial Institute can be built in the country and how they work, which deewan or baytril. Man, we have a defense ministry known oldest in the history as a D one, which is people register for the army and so on.

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And in order for you to organize the concept of war and peace, it was given to the, to the Muslims, in a form what we call a tertiary after jihad, the books have talked a lot about the fifth, the ruling related to jihad, that's basically when there is a Muslims state, or there is a Muslim in any country, how they declared war, when they declared war, what's the ruling and related to the war, that what you read in the books of jihad,

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it's not ever meant for just every individual claim. It's not like salad you can go and mix a lot in your own. So you can go make jihad in your own, exactly cannot go and say I'm the judge, I'm going to apply the punishment. And now I will judge between people who can do that. It's not up to you. It is it is part of a whole system of particles are otherwise it will be a mess, like what we're seeing today.

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And jihad is the tool is not a mean. That's why if, as so many skills, like I

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said, If what you want to establish by Jihad can be established without fight, you're not allowed to fight.

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So it is not a go. That's why one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life, somebody said so and so is cafard why because he never he never declared Jihad subparallel as if it has to be exist. It's a mean if there is need for it to use it. And also a jihad is only allowed to be exists, if the benefit from it outcome. The disadvantages. It's not in all cases. Because the Sharia based on is the decline in Muslim I wonder is the great benefit can be achieved can be achieved. I don't know if I have time to quote, luckily, amendments cassani an Imam Duany, so many scholars I have their quotes here. They all said no damato him Allah, he said, and let me call them nicodemo Rahim Allah

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either Hassan imamo heslin if the amount of the Muslim shirts only related to the always relative to the amount the leaders if he surrounding a castle, and he found that there is more harm of surrounding him and fighting them. And it is better for the Muslim army to leave them he should leave he should leave because it Nabi sallallahu Sallam when he surrounded. And he every day they were harmed more people killing and there is hard. It's very hard to enter such castle, he left at Salomon, he never came back to attack a path and in the morning at 10. So there are so many quotes from the scholar, this is something agreed upon that when there is a great benefit of jihad to be

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declared that ruler Miss must make that call in this case, but ever, ever think that it is will be more disadvantage of declaring war against anybody, he should not involve the community or his country in such a such war. Also the other thing that this issue of jihad, and I believe if you make this point clear, to yourself and to others, that as I said it's a part of the society, it means it's in the hands of the governor, it's the hand of the leader, it's not in the hands of individuals hiding in caves or in living in internet societies or in some apartments here or there. It is in the hands of the Muslim cut Eve or a man who in control of his country, Allah subhanaw taala data set

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where either Java

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or Ruby

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or suniva in an agreement home, if there is a matter of fear or safety or pays come at a major issue, they have to refer it to the profit and to the leaders, to the governor's to the Presidents whatever you call them. The leader sorting this out at three, no doubt that one of the most important thing to be referred to will be the issue of declaring war or peace. The Prophet Solomon was asked Yeah, you have to be you have to limit meaning and sorted and felt verse 65, or Mohammed encourage people to fight, invite them to fight so Mohammed, not everybody and whoever replace Mohammed salams role which is the governors and the leaders of the Muslims. Also the Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said about the time when there is Muslim will be so much confusion divisions and disobedience and so forth. And how do you feel if he said, Allah tells them which American Muslim you know? Mmm

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Elena colome Mm

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hmm. He said so Salim you gather around the Imam in a time where there are so many groups and sex he said you hold with your brothers around the Imam. If there is no Imam that he said go and fight them. No, he said you avoid all of them. So the issue is connected to the existence of the Imam also in nibio sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, What is the stone philtrum from Pharaoh that if you've been called to Jihad you accept who make the call is the Imam of the Muslim mean as no you have been hedgerow him Allah, comment into comment on this. Also the prophets of Salaam said Mankato, Amelia, you drew in a Serbia, Serbia for Putin for

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those who fight under unknown banners. He didn't know who's the leader. You know what the goal you didn't know what's going to be stablishing and that will only happen if there is no a political entity leading the war. That's why the war never was Jihad was never established in Mecca. Because there is not yet a political entity, it will be a mess. If there is a Jihad will establish without a political entity to protect it. Al jihad is basically like a giant

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force, it has to be controlled by the government to direct it in the government the right way. Otherwise it will cause a lot of damage and a memorable high to hammer home law sit in His sight. pod barebow new Carter Nomura Eman fight should be behind the leaders behind the Imam which is the elected leader or the leader of the Muslims, Muslims.

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There are so many coats from the Sahaba from the tablet in from the Anderson It is one of the principles read, pick any books and aqeedah any books if

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you read in it, were no party no metal jewelry will food you will build your food your

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method workers

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and so many coats like this bottle the human tragedy fighting and Jihad under the Imam it must be an Imam and this Imam cannot be just somebody claimed that Imam know the Eman is somebody who been gone through a process where the Muslim community have chosen him to be the Imam. I'm saying that because I have seen people trying to escape this point and to allow themselves to declare war against others without the map. The only exception that I made is when somebody attacked you in your home, you don't need anybody's permission to fight to protect yourself that will be permissible.

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I don't have enough time to basically go over the rest of the points that I have. But there is one thing or a few points very quickly I will mention it in related to their methodology also, in fact, I noticed that No, they don't combine by evidence. So they pick one verse or one Hadith, but they do combine all evidence together which is make the picture clear. So if you see one verse talking about for instance, fight the good fight or whatever the you will find another verses would would state clearly fight those who are fighting you. Or you will see the practices of Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam did the prophet SAW Selim killed anybody just because he's cafard? And that's one of the

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things that they claim that if somebody is non Muslims, that's enough reason for him to be killed. Which is is that how the prophets of Salaam treated them? Did the prophets of Solomon conquered Mecca killed everybody that the prophets of Salaam declared war against the fall in Yemen and the tribes not all of them. He fought as if nothing, Rahim Allah, Khalid Amir de la had him be horrible. He never started a war with anybody. So Salah is that means only jihad is a defensive no jihad is it to defend the Muslims and also sometimes he initiated if you know that this is a threat can harm the Muslims in future and based on this you will see the actions that took place by the war that

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happened with the Romans and others during the time of the prophets of Salaam Abu Bakr and Abubakar Allah.

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Also, there is no

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time or they don't look at how also the Sahaba they'll understand the text. One of the famous texts that they always used take the Kufa out of gelatin so that justifying them to kill the Americans in Arabia or whatever the unexplained that in my lectures in a detailed way so I don't think you need which is terrorist violence in the name of Allah. I don't think

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I need to say that again. But just to let you know that the kuffaar almost been existent during the prophets of Salaam and after the process of time in the whole affair and they were all but the Hadith is talking about they don't they don't dominate, they don't have a domination of the religion over the Arab peninsula and there is a big debate between the scars to define what is actually Arab Peninsula, some stricted this to Mecca and Medina. Also, you see, one of the issues that the always raises the issue of when I will borrow and maybe that's the last point I will talk about any form of waala to the kuffaar it means your non Muslims and that's also another misunderstanding and whatnot

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in Arabic language it means the love and support and the love and support to make it very easy, very simple to you. If you love somebody, and you support their ideologies and their belief and their religion, you became one of them.

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Yeah, you have Latina men hula hula hula nesara Alia Alia Oba woman yet Allah who mean confer in whom in whom or who you believe don't take Jewish and Christians earlier. And it's wrong translation to say friends earlier.

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Earlier the word earlier means the person that you love and you support their love and support the religion of each others or the each other's and whoever the Ayatollah Khomeini comforting a woman. Whoever among you will take them as Olia, he will be among them among them.

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And similar to the sort of Tillman tahina in verse number one, but listen to what the scholar said. They said about this verses specifically and let me kowtow to the engineer said mentor level Manasa mininova, who amin led him in Latin for in a hula

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hula BY be Dini.

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Robin, he said specifically here

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that this will I will just take you out of Islam, when you love and you support their religion. First is if a Muslim would say I love the concept that Jesus Son of God,

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he's not Muslim, he became Christian. That's the end of the story. If you love that Muslims, they don't believe that. So if you love that, and you support that idea, you became minimum you became among them. And that's what we call a tele

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helmet law and

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law, but there is another machine and never rely on another machine, which it doesn't take you out of the fold of Islam, even though it's a sin, which is your love their sins, or you love whatever somebody says, I love the concept that you can do anything that is no harm, porticoed, or drinking, it's allowed. I love that and I'm a supporter. Freedom is something like that. In Islam, this is became sin, this is became sin, this is became sin, he's still not haram to drink, still no haram to import, but that became a major sin, or he supported them for a personal reasons. For a person, let's say a Muslim country will support a non Muslim country because they are afraid that their

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economy will go down, afraid that they might attack them. So they support them by doing things which is head on in their country, pressing the Muslims, putting them in jail, stopping down. They don't harm things because of the collapse of the kuffaar. Would that became kufr. Listen to what discoverable human law says. He said, If there were not given because of a person reason the person interest, but the belief that still exists, that will became a major sins. And the proof for that what happened in the time of the prophet SAW Selim, would help him NAB even tougher. So he wrote a letter to the people of Croatia and said the process I'm coming to attack your country, and nobody

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knows about it. It's a Trojan he really revealed that secret. He talked them out earlier. He gives them a lot of support over the Muslims.

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By giving the process and secrets away. The Prophet told the surveyor I didn't make that and any go

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and find a woman Give me the letter to end the story here. Listen to what Allah Subhana Allah said.

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Yeah, you had lady in.

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Turkey do i do we do welcome Odia Oh, who you believe, see he's still cold help of nebia belterra believer,

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even though Allah Subhana Allah said to him, even though Allah also said that he have given to them, given what out to them. And the reason he did that, because he said, Every one of you guys have family member and I don't have anybody. So I thought maybe I'm doing them a favor. And that's why they protect my family. If the

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An attack will take place will take place. That's why they have commented this verse by saying that there is a difference between what a Muslim general voila, which include love and support for the deen. And voila, a Muslim because of personal interest. And if they're giving bs because of fear of pressure. In this case, there is no harm, you will not even be held accountable for that, as a citizen, sort of a learned branch or a three verse 28 elantech, coming home to pa bottom line, the love and support if it's related to the religion to the belief that's occurred for because of personal interest because of love for sins, that our sin, and if the love and support was given, for

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worldly matters commonly known between humans like all of us, regardless, our religions will always we love and support each other when it comes to fighting cancers, to fighting poverty, to providing education, which is the basics foundations that most of the word, modern work today build on love and support this, it is not a Haram. It is something even the Prophet Salim said about healthful football, that if he would be invited to participate in it, he will do it again that Coalition's to fight. What was wrong at that time, my brothers and sisters,

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it is

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sad when you look also that sometimes they try to change, our misquoting the colors and the roadmap just to deceive others. There is a lot to be said a lot to be discussed, I think what is the role of our civic knowledge and scholars to be aware that these extreme views are those people who claim that they defend Islam? That's my final point. What's the best argument? Muslims are in danger and justice happen to them? We stand up for the truth to support this now, isn't that what do you hear?

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The question that you asked yourself? Did they support any Islam?

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Did they remove any injustice? Did they brought any good?

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Without him that resolved on the outcome of your actions, you will recognize them as a result.

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The only bro distractions,

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those who killed several 1000s in New York not far away from here, what the good they have made to humanity. What good they had made to Islam and Muslims. Oh, dignity, our dignity abroad, nothing.

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Nothing. The reality the reality is nothing. you wipe out two countries

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and caused the invasion of two countries.

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It's plan before you know what before and I don't want to transfer this lecture to be political lectures claiming that America is enemy number one America stretch their hand to help a lot of Muslims why this is a forgotten

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and Bosnians and in the issue of advanced and against the Russian it is for personal interest for the person is what you want for the sake of Allah.

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It's so weird. You said it's further Yes. Didn't today establish the communication with the Taliban to have a pipelines for gas to use the Taliban and they were rejected by the Taliban government yes they looking for interest they will look for somebody else like Mr. Chairman to help them

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but if you're not smart enough to know how to play the game, you don't deserve to leave the Muslims word. If you didn't know how to make the decision wisely if you didn't know how to protect your people you don't deserve to be in the first line if the only thing you know it just to push the button or to blow yourself up that's not what the what that's not what's going to make a change in the future of Islam and Muslims

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just ask yourself what good they have brought to the Muslims in Islam nothing

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and put all this argument in the site everything they claim that they're trying to establish by what they're doing. The only doing the opposite

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may last parameter Allah you know, yeah, come with me. I'm assuming locally higher. Allah minion silica and turion Hakata lokomotiva what to do about it about Mr. Yabba Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Ali, Mohammed kamisato Abraham, Abraham, thank you very much. Whatever it said is correct. It's from Allah Nova is wrong and it is for myself and I really, really

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From my heart, I encourage all of us to focus on education to learn our Deen. Before we rush into these issues, judging peoples and governments and individuals and war, there are so many things need you need to deal with it in your own life in your personal life. And I think we should put our priorities straight and to focus in what will bring prosperity and good to us as Muslims as a citizen of whatever country because there's a mixed crowd you from you should be a person who bring good to the table, not to bring disasters and animosity and and problems to yourself and your family and your community. May Allah Sparta Allah and urinal como salata, Mohammed, thank you very much.

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Michelle salatu salam ala rasulillah.

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In the time Dinesh was making the announcement real quick, I was just asking shift will lead him to the whole about what sort of questions I can ask him, because we got a lot. And hamdulillah he told me he said, I don't like censorship. And I don't like staged questions. So he said what the people wrote, just say st in front of everybody, so

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Dinesh is write the CDs for sale. But this q&a is not for sale. So I would definitely stay seated. Because there's some interesting questions.

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So with that, inshallah, the first question is this chef will lead us up to live here for your talk. religious extremism in Jihad and violence is definitely a real problem today. But do you think as much as the scholars are emphasizing the Jihad and violence in these problems, maybe they're forgetting to focus on other problems, like modernism and other issues, because so many times we only hear about this type of extremism now, and nobody's talking about the other issues?

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Similar? First of all, I would like to say, I agree on the concept, we should not focus on one problem, forget all the other problems. There's so many problems in the Muslim world, and in the Muslim community and other communities as well. That's why out of more than maybe

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500 lectures are given America, that is three of them only about terrorism. So I don't think I'm focusing on terrorism.

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That one out of all this lecture that you're gonna hear today, that's the only lecture dealing with this issue. But we just try I agree with you, we have to be moderate and hamdulillah. I have, I want to tell you that this something we really greatly take it in consideration. Yes.

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Another question? Sure. If you had said in your talk, that jihad is an Islamic word and a beautiful word, could you just give a comment explaining what you meant by that?

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Jihad and slap the word Jihad comes from an hour, which is struggling when you put so much work and emphasis and effort on something.

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Jihad has so many meanings that am Rahim Allah said it has five different meanings. You can read that in southern ad, and it's available in English as well. As you have not only necessarily means fighting with carrying weapons and fighting enemies, no. Jihad can be with words, as Allah Subhana Allah said, which are hidden behind Jihad and Kabira you fight the kuffar with the Quran, use the Quran as a tool of jihad. So it is an intellect Jihad struggle. Also Jehan Machina be Mr. de como fusi come with Id come on synergy come

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perform Jihad administer Mashallah kill with your wealth, with your money with your tongue and with your hands. So, the jihad is a very common word. A lot of them also said, For Hadith

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that the prophets of Salaam said the best Mujahid or the best form of jihad, when you stood up in front of unjust ruler and you tell him the truth, and you confront him with the truth, then he will might excuse your kill you see, it's a very noble way you stand up in front of me talk to him, there's no penetrating there is no deceiving.

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It's very straightforward. You stand up and you talk to him.

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That's basically some examples of how the word Jihad was used and other than the physical terms the tangible way which is carrying weapons and fighting someone.

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So for us, Jihad for Muslim jihad is a system to it

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sure that when there is a Muslim state, that the way they declared wars peace, basically

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equal to what known today the defense ministers state, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Defense, something like that whatever rules will govern the Muslims, basically in this area that what we call it a Baba jihad, the chapters of jihad.

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This is a this is combining a question that many people ask, shake disciple of hair, you touched upon some history in your lecture. And you mentioned Afghanistan in the 1980s 70s. And 80s was a great thing. Can you differentiate that Afghanistan and today is what is happening today also a noble Jihad? Is something happening today also, the good type of jihad that we should all be proud of? Can you please elaborate?

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First of all, in the 80s, the Jihad was from the Muslims, the avani Muslims groups, even though it was not something we were happy with pleased with, that they were more than seven groups

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fighting, and they're not united together in the fight against the Russian.

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And I remember personally not talking about somebody else, talking to some of the leaders of these groups, like I've got to say, yeah, funny, listening to their talk and raising this question to them saying, if you are seven groups now, how many you will be when the war finished

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the film The time before your seven after war, how many groups you're going to be? And what I anticipated, and so many others at that time happen? That after the Russian are defeated and pull out from one, Stan, what was 1994? Maybe something like that. I'm not good in numbers. But anyway,

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whenever they pulled out of Milan, Stan, the world civil war started, the Civil War started. And until today, you see there is a civil war happening in understand that one, Stan and the Iraq issue is not America versus Taliban. is not America or NATO versus BonBon is not America versus NRT, that's wrong way to put it. That's not the reality. The reality is there is a group of the Afghani people, with the Americans against some of the Muslims and of honestok there is Iraqi people, with the Americans against some of the Iraqi people. I please now for the time being even forget about how it starts. Now. You have a government in place, you have a system in place, and it became the

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war. It's a civil war inside that country inside that country. And is that a reason for a person to say that the government will be cafard have been Hezbollah him alive, even though he's a very strong person in his opinion. He said, no doubt, it's one of the worst worst sins to use the kuffar in war against your own brothers, so you can take over the country. But he said, I don't see any text and Koran or sooner or he will say that such person Capita and he said that in his mohalla Rahim Allah to Allah.

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So,

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one of the things that they always used, they just say, this governor is Kaffir, to the government to so far to justify basically the war against them. And upon stand today, it is it has a government, regardless of how good or bad this government just or unjust it is. I think they're funny people needed and maybe regret talking about the past. But I think this group of the loving group, instead of dragging the Taliban to a war against the word, they should put their effort to stablish into strength, that young stage was coming up, instead of pushing it toward the direction that it get them nowhere get to know where hamdulillah Allah spirit, Allah has the wisdom behind

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whatever happened. But no doubt today it is a civil war happening there. What Muslims are going to some Muslims, so and in such a fight, it's very clear the Muslim order to avoid such situation going there and to fight under which banner under Who? For what for what cause, what's the goal? What's the establishment, that is going to happen after that? This is what I call it pitter patter, right. And you go to war under unknown banners, and no doubt I have no doubt in my heart, that such participation in such from the people and going

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do such things is not a correct? action?

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Okay. Bismillah This is going to be the last question at this point because we have other lectures as well. And I've just been told by my brother Dinesh that we have some guests here who are here to see the shake some media and other guests. But in traveling, there will be a comprehensive question and answer session tonight. And all of the mcgroove Institute instructors are very approachable for people who have questions. So with that this will be the last question for this session.

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And again, this is paraphrasing multiple questions that were like this share you in your lecture, you mentioned different organizations. What about organizations like Hamas that are more complex, they do a lot of good. They do social services, they set up schools, they help the community, but maybe they also have certain wings that are extreme, or maybe certain wings that do have some problems as well. Do you have any comments about organizations like that?

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I was talking about the community like trend for these terrorist groups and individual they avoid to be part of the community avoid to have parts of the community.

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As for talking about the examples of Hezbollah and social work that they do in Lebanon, I never been there. I don't have really my own research about them or Hamas itself. So talking about them in detail, that will be another issue. But let me tell you what I know. And Hezbollah says she organizations even the support goes to she regroups among them, even that money that the given distribute goes to the Shia to this year, even though the banner that the declare that they carry is the banner of nationalism. But if you remember of Israel, I have to be shealy which is a contradiction, which is a country How can you talk about nationalism and only recognize the shear to

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be part of you, even as a listener there, the their participation in fighting the occupation in southern Lebanon, in southern Lebanon, in Masada, Shabbat, for example, there were so many people they never been recognized by the media or by them, and their contribution never was mentioned. It is a very

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close minded group and Hezbollah and

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we know the history of Hezbollah and terrorizing Muslims and Sunnis, the killing that took place by the hand of MN, who eventually dissolve and basically became part of his villa and Sabra and Shatila is something will not be forgotten the Palestinians that they have suffered and killed by the hand of the sheeting militia.

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And the extreme Christians in Russia as well. And

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in Lebanon, it's something we handle and still have our memory fresh, and we

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remember it that they have done a lot of acts of terrorism, but you might be helping and aiding for a political reasons like giving money and food for recruiting reasons for recruiting reasons as for Hamas, they are not included in the group that I'm talking about today. Hamas it wasn't elected. It was an elected government. And also Hamas has nothing to do with either Hamas has nothing to do with the beloved Hamas it is a political issues putting it

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listing it in a terrorist group what defined terrorists is not the State Department for us what define terrorist group is not the nature would define terrorists for Muslims scholars like my students knowledge like myself, it will be the Quran and Sunnah the Quran the Islamic layout of a terrorist group or not, we might I might disagree with them and certain issues and one of the issues I disagree with it completely the suicide bombing that something I don't believe it is allowed even if it's done in Tel Aviv, even it's done to an anywhere I don't believe that is correct, but that's a personal opinions and I take as for them, they are different completely from the the group that

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I'm talking about

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earlier.

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Okay, with that in Trello, we're breaking as I said, you can ask the shake other questions in the q&a, but not right now. There's two brothers waiting at the stairway who are gonna block you from asking the shake anything and they're taking him straight to visit with the media. See these topics bring the media out. Also, I just want to say that when I talk about this, my speeches you notice it's not directed to the media. Any because I

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I believe I can talk to the media. But I know I don't mind stop. But you more important to me than the media.

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Those who will hear these tapes later on, were more important to me that I'm not waiting for any recognitions. Or, you know what I stop every time I fly like you guys. You know, I came to Baltimore, I was stopped in the airport, the last person to maybe to enter the airplane. And I don't care. And I because I say what I say because I believe it's correct. And that's when I said, the nature of the Muslim community has to fight terrorism, the nature of the Muslim community to stand up for the truth, even if it is against ourselves. When we can, even if he is a friend or a family member, we will stand for the truth and stop the abuser from abusing others will love Adam salona.

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I said I will make that comment.

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I believe that this name, not an accurate name, and I will never use it if it's only my choice. Because that's provoke others. And indeed it did. So maybe make people angry. And the last thing I want to do is to make anybody angry. That's not my goal. My goal is to guide you. My goal is to stretch my hand not to hit with my hand to welcome you.

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I don't want anyone when you hear this lecture, because of the title will take a defensive position. You know what? I'm holding it and now you're taking it from me? No, no, no, that's, that's not what I want. I want you to open your mind and your eyes, and to listen to the evidence to listen to the elders among the scholars to look around and to see the picture. Clear, not only the way that had been put in front of you,

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I also believe that this title, have done an injustice to the word jihad. Because I believe those people that I'm talking about the don't deserve the word Jihad this because the word jihad is a beautiful word is an Islamic word, with the whole word used to know the word jihad in a very beautiful way. When the 80s you hear about the Mujahideen, the Mujahideen and the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

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But those people who have taken this word or say we are jihad, jihad is far away from what they're doing. What they're doing is buggy transgressions, is avant injustice, abusing murderous

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catella they're not this is not what the Jihad that Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam have came up with so in the old days, the Howard used to call themselves a Schrott those who saw the souls to Allah, they sold their souls to Allah.

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Did anyone of the Muslim scholars agree on this name? No, they never call them this because they don't deserve it. Because they were liars. They call them by the name that the the they deserve Akasha be Erica. Alibaba, these names How are rich hallelujah. Uh, you never find one of these names have a good old meaning

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to I don't think that they I need to reclaim hamdulillah they are minority they never took or hijack Islam, but no doubt in media. They were a perfect example to be used to some media, not all of them have to be also very clear some of media out of ignorance and sometimes not. They might think or generalize in their terms against Islam and Muslim by linking Islam to such ideologies, such ideologies.

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A lot of people been deceived by such people for two reasons. One, because their appearance, because they look religious, they have big beer, the Koran the memorize the plan.

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And I just want to remind everyone here with what the amendment Bukhari and Muslim reported in the sorry that the prophet SAW Selim said from Hadith Arabia Vitaly, Bobby citizen could regroup the sahabas narrate the prophets of Salaam said there is a group will come. When you compare your prayer to their pray, the way you pray to the way they pray, and he talks about to about the companions of Muhammad. You compare the companions of Mohammed's prayer and salt fasting and the way they respond to the way those group read Koran and fast and pray.

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Your prayer will seems to be like nothing compared to them. Steady, so righteous See, pray a lot.

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la yuja was Rihanna Jerome. But reading Quran will not travel farther than the throat, it means we don't understand it. It doesn't go to the brain. They don't understand they just read it. They just coating it, or it will not travel to the sky, what Allah subhanaw taala except the deeds, that will not, he said, laying

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down a lady leave and exit Islam and they will never come back to it. And because of this, I believe also that some of those extreme people who have gone so far, I have so much big doubt that they will ever come back. And I don't care much about talking to them.

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Because I think they've done The Prophet said the exit, they never come back, you read 10s of companions and successors, and early scholars said Sahib will be the Alaia to innovator will never repent. And they always connect this to the hawara.

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You see, maybe she romiley, qaderi, whatever you repent. But how did you Julie they don't, they stay this way. And that's one of the dangerous thing, if you take that route, and you go deep in it, it might be so dark that you never get lost, you can never come back

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in a dark room,

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Cutler It was a moot if I ever meet them, I will kill them all, I will destroy them all in the same manner as Allah destroyed the people of

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color.

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Man,

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whoever killed them, he will be rewarded or fight and he will be rewarded. Anyway, as I said, I'm not saying that they are the heart, they are the Hillary but they have the spirit of such people. So don't let the look deceive you. Don't let the turban and the big beard and that deceive you know.

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It is what they call it, what they base their argument on to what led a lot of people to be deceived by the most of the decode a lot of scholars, a lot of will know and recognize colors. Like you've been telling me or him on 100 Robin,

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they have been Cathy, they use this a lot to appear as if they are people who base their argument in fundamentals and foundations and so on.

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And we will give an example of how this is not accurate or

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fully true.

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I would like to make a

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point here or a declaration I give before civil lecture two lectures are close to the subject. And I have used a word in it raise a lot of tension at that time. And a lot of people talk to me about and I would like to say

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that I said these lectures something in that light, that the people who have come to participate in the war in Afghanistan in the 80s of the Mujahideen that I remember what I know a lot of people in that time when it was young men in in, in Arabia, and I see a lot of people going there. They were people who couldn't make any difference in their lives. They were not successful family in their society. And they ended up going that I believe that generalizing those words is not accurate is not correct on our solahart Allah to forgive me for it. And I think that's not the correct point to make that general statement. Because among the people who went to the jihad in Afghanistan in the 80s,

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sincere men and women and they were not losers, they were successful people who went in that time to fight the Russian and how shall lead that I meant to generalize there's a lot of Fulani sincere brothers and sisters sacrificed their lives and their family died in the process of liberation of understand from the Russian and I think it will not be fair to make a general statement, but I was talking about a group of people a certain group of you who later on formulate these extreme views and ideas. So just to make sure that this is clear.

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So basically, we talking about the people who

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we talk about the people who spread extreme views in such a manner to encourage people to kill or injure or destroy, Urban's or kill innocent people, Muslims or non Muslims attacking and transgression, transgress to transgress against Muslim or non Muslims as well in almost

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Some country or a non Muslim country, as long as there is no status have a clear war on are we talking about this because this is an area where they play the game. Oh, there is a war, we have a war. Okay, so that's justify what we don't know. But I'm talking specifically about this group that I mentioned earlier, like spider and people who are circling around their ideology circle around their ideologies.

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And also, I would like to praise the brave decisions of certain leaders of these groups who have left these ideologies like Jemaah Islamiyah in Egypt,

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Libya, in Saudi Arabia, sort of certain individuals have declare that they have left and repented from such ideologies, and even posted on the internet, very beneficial books written in Arabic. And I hope that it is also provided in English for English speakers as well as well. So this is something give us hope, inshallah, and it is an indication for the shin brothers and sisters who basically impressed by these groups to see the other side of the coin, and to see from inside, what exactly it used to look like. Like when you talk about the history of a man of velocity, and people like that, you will see a totally different picture of what maybe have engraved in your mind about

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such individuals.

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I would like to say that terrorism and extremism all was based on two pillars, one, those who supported terrorism, by ideologies by justifying the actions, and those who supported by weapons by carrying the weapons. And if there is a person who have both This is the most dangerous person will be, but that is to group people leave, never carry weapons, but they give the ID this spread and the idea. And I think for the Muslim community, for the student of knowledge, their role should be always or this is the nature of our community and Hamdulillah, to reject and to fight these ideologies. And we should not wait for the government. And I'm talking specifically about America

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here, we should not wait for the government to invite the government to fight the ideologies, because the moment the government stepped in to fight ideologies, the moment you might be losing a lot of your civil rights, that should be the community role. And that's the role that we expecting from it, that you look the government watch from a distance, but we as a community, take care of these ideologies, talk about it, open the dialog, make to ensure that it is will be clearly addressed, and basically opposed by the community. But when it comes, and basically we will be the front row here in fighting terrorism, and any agencies or government agencies should be just from

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the back you should not be involved. Only the involve if the law was broken, if the lowest broken, because before breaking the law, that is a big gap and a distance. And as much as you let the government involved before the law was broken, as much as losing lift and right from your rights as the civil rights. But whenever the situation turned to be an act of rolls, by causing harm or a real threat to the security of the citizen of any country, in this case, our role will be to pull back. And that's the government basically role to ensure that such damage will not take place such terrorist act will never be taking place to protect the citizen of its own country.

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Usually my brothers and sisters terrorist group, just to fight the take their support from the reaction of government power, you know, a lot of time you don't hear what caused the problem every time they talk about how the government's reacted to them. So they talk a lot about how the Muslims were torture in the jails, but by what have triggered the whole thing, it will be lost in the dialogue. So as much as aggressive reaction from government, as much as these people justify for themselves, and feel a lot of people supporting them and sympathy from people. And that should not be a way to fool us to forget about what caused the problem from the beginning from the beginning.

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So many times terrorist group or extreme group distort their ideology is based riddled in a fair case, but not in a fair and just way of treating it Palestine.

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It's a fair case, but the way that it might be used, and the justification that happened because of it will not be necessarily fair. A portion is something not very good, but to go and blew up a clinic of abortion clinic, that's not right or a fair way of dealing with it.

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Using users and basically corrupting people's financially and selling drugs and alcohol, it's a bad thing. But to go to blow up certain Institute's and killing people there, that's definitely his harm, as harm.

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So

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they might have a just case, but they don't have a just means, basically, to the case that they want to discuss. So we should also keep that in mind when we talk about this group.

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One of the things that I have noticed,

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by studying or reading about the ideologies of these extreme groups, there is very fast trend of changes. And this split very quickly. So it starts with one case, all of a sudden, you start as a big sinners, then you end up biggest hypocrites, then the biggest Kaffir, then the most any move Islam, then you see how it starts, America is bad, then it is the worst, then it is number one, and it is. And now it's one case, 2345. It's very fast, the chain, so many issues will be raised. And that's create a sense of confusion and make it very hard to have a debate or a dialogue, a dialogue, and also shows you how far can it goes? It goes with fighting the people who the bad than the people

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who live with them than the people who aged them than the people who live around them. Did you see how's that work? So in the beginning, this is a suicide bombing, it can be done in a case of fighting the war, then after that it became go to a place where there is government, and then you go to public place, then ended up even killing himself. And they said that's fine, because he raised awareness, see how the change from one level to another from one level to another. Also,

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it's it's, it's interesting, once it is war against the government of certain country. In the beginning, for example, the mo jihad in Egypt has this declaration that they only focus in fighting Egyptian government. They call it a dual corrib element, and it will bury the enemy who's next door, or its priority for us to fight him than the one who fought away. So the never fought any western country, anything like that. And after years, after more than 1400 people killed in this process,

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by the fact and by the basically the instruction that giving by velocity and people like him,

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they come later on to say we were wrong, we should not do that we should not focus on this, after killing more than 1400 people.

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1300 of them are among the Muslims, among the gyptian citizens over a course of less than seven years.

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Then you change. And now you said which is very weird. The enemy are the whole word. There is an open war against Christians and Jews everywhere in the world, and America and Europe and South America and everywhere.

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It is a dramatic change very fast. In unexpected. Also, there are so many contradictions in the approach. First in those extreme groups, the calling for the justice of Islam and implementation of the Sharia, and the protecting of human rights. And they are the first one to in to validate over us to basically not paying attention to human rights to not applying justice and not applying the Sharia as rules. This extreme groups, they ask people to make incredible mooncup to basically fight what is evil and themselves doing what is evil.

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When you see the photo of some of the leaders when he said it is permissible to go to burn a video stores or alcoholic place to sell alcohol and even if this is what it costs to burn the whole building, then in Egypt, a building will accommodate hundreds of family they will end up in the street. That's fine. That's

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not evil, that's not wrong to go to Mohammed was Sophie's gather and to through a no bomb or a bomb in the middle of the gathering. That's okay because that's in Cardinal mooncup if somebody die or burn that's fine.

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To go to a Shia mosque and to blow it up with the kids are children and everybody that's fine that's in common monka

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it is contradiction when somebody just fresh Muslim, fresh young man or woman, come back to Islam want to practice Islam? The first thing you do you wrap him up with a bomb and you go blue or silver? But isn't that person need to take his time in worshipping Allah Subhana? Allah? Where does the telopea What is their dad? Did the prophets of Salaam used to do that?

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contradiction when you hear them in England, and living off the social system in Europe and the United States, they taking their pension their checks from the government that they declared war against it?

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Isn't that contradictions, contradiction when your own country wants to kill you when there is a civil war in your country, and not a single Muslim country?

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Open the doors to take the refugee of these countries who had a civil wars

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where they ended up in America and in Europe,

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who opened their doors, these countries

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and the return you plot against them? That's a contradictions, contradictions when you ask people to blindly follow and obey the mean, and not to obey their parents.

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It is contradiction when you claim that you follow the scholars

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like almost quoting chef Mohammed Abdullah Hobbesian crazy been talking about, but whenever it comes their statements against them, they just announced them immediately.

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They talk about

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him, Mohammed Ibrahim and caught him. But he never did forget that he was one of the pillars

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of the Saudi government that they believe it is the most evil government.

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Why the country why you pick his opinion, and the law and now you forget about his practices.

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My brothers and sisters

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are jihad, there is no need for me to talk about the virtues of jihad. Because this will establish I don't need me or anybody else. It is one of the pillars and one of the fundamentals on Sharia, and no need for exaggeration, or somebody say Oh, talk about the importance of it we know about but let me explain some important facts about jihad. Al Islam came to establish a society, a civil society, in this society, you will have something called the Justice Department, like what we have just to make it simple to be understood. We have a system for how the state work how the Muslim state work, you have a system how the judge have to practice his job, how the policeman has to work, as we call

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it in Islam, and Islamic law, how there is a financial Institute can be built in the country and how they work. Which D'Ivoire or baytril man, we have a defense ministry non oldest in the history as a D one, which is people register for the army and so on.

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And in order for you to organize the concept of war and peace, it was given to the to the Muslims in a form what we call a tertiary Atul jihad. The books talk a lot about the fifth, the ruling related to jihad. That's basically when there is a Muslims state, or there is a Muslim in any country, how they declared war when they declared war, what's the ruling and related to the war, that's what you read in the books of jihad.

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It's not ever meant for just every individual to claim it's not like salad, you can go and mix a lot in your own. So you can go and make jihad in your own exactly cannot go and say I'm the judge, I'm going to apply the punishment. And now I will judge between people he can do that. It's not up to you. It is it is part of a whole system of particles. Otherwise it will be a mess like what we're seeing today.

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And jihad is the tool is not I mean, that's why if as so many skulls, like I

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said if what you want to establish by Jihad can be established without fight. You're not allowed to fight.

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So it is not a go. That's why one of the worst things

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ever heard in my life? Somebody said so and so is cafard Why? Because he never, we never declared Jihad Subhanallah as if it has to be exist, it's a mean if there is need for it to use it. And also al jihad is only allowed to be exists if the benefit from it outcome, the disadvantages. It's not in all cases. Because the Sharia based on is the decline in Muslim I wonder is the great benefit can be achieved can be achieved. I don't know if I have time to quote. Luckily moment. cassani an Imam Duany, so many scholars I have their coats here. They all said no damato Hema, Hola. He said, and let me call them lipoedema Rahim Allah either Hassan imamo heslin if the amount of the Muslim shirts

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only related to the always related to the Imam, the leaders if he surrounded a castle, and he found that there is more harm of surrounding him and fighting them. And it is better for the Muslim army to leave them he should leave, he should leave because it never be Salalah Solomon is surrounded. And he every day they were harmed more people killing under is hard. It's very hard to enter such castle, he left it so Solomon he never came back to attack a path and in the morning at 10. So there is so many quotes from the scholar, this is something agreed upon that when there is a great benefit of jihad to be declared that ruler Miss must make that call in this case, but as the ruler think

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that it is, will be more disadvantage of declaring war against anybody, he should not involve the community or his country in such a such war. Also the other thing that this issue of jihad. And I believe if you make this point clear to yourself and to others, that as I said it's a part of the society, it means it's in the hand of the governor. It's the hand of the leader, it's not in the hands of individuals hiding in caves or in living in internet services societies, or in some apartments here or there. It is in the hands of the Muslim cut Eve or a man who in control of his country also have a data set where either Java

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or Ruby

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Rasulullah only ambrym in home. If there is a matter of fear or safety or pays come at a major issue. They have to refer it to the prophet and to the leaders to the governor's to the President's whatever you call them. The leader sorting this out at three, no doubt that one of the most important thing to be referred to will be the issue of declaring war or peace. The Prophet Selim was asked Yeah, you have to be you have to limit meaning anarchy down and sort of unfold verse 65, or Mohammed encourage people to fight, invite them to fight so Mohammed, not everybody and whoever replaced Mohammed salams role which is the governor's and the leaders of the Muslims. Also the

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Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said about the time when there is Muslim will be so much confusion divisions and disobedience and so forth. And he said, Carla, tells them which American Muslim you know mmm for a Lamia cola home. Mm

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hmm. He said so Salim you gather around the Imam in a time where there are so many groups and sex he said you hold with your brothers around the Imam if there is no Imam that he said go and fight them. No, he said you avoid all of them. So the issue is connected to the existence of the Imam also NW sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said what is the stone philtrum from Pharaoh that if you've been called to Jihad you accept who made the call is the Imam of the Muslim mean as no you have been hijacked Rahim Allah, comment into it and comment on this. Also the prophets of Salaam said man cartella Amelia, you drew in a Serbia, Serbia

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those who fight under unknown banners. He didn't know who's the leader you know what the goal you didn't know what's gonna be stablishing and that will only happen if there is no a political entity leading the war. That's why the war never was Jihad was never established in Makkah, because there is not yet a political entity, it will be a mess. If there is a Jihad will establish without a political entity to protect it. And jihad is basically like a giant

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force. It has to be controlled by the government to direct it in the government the right way, otherwise it will cause a lot of damage. And Imam Al Bukhari Rahim Allah sit in His sight pod barebow new Katana Meanwhile,

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In a man fight should be behind the leaders behind the Imam which is the elected leader or the leader of the Muslims, Muslims.

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There are so many quotes from the Sahaba, from the tambourine from the Anderson. It is one of the principles read, pick any books and aqeedah any books if

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you read in it, when no party no metal jewelry will fudo what will work for your car, Mathurin one has Roma, Amara Bharata noir genre and so many quotes like this volume of Algerian fighting and Jihad under the Imam. It must be an Imam. And this Imam cannot be just somebody claimed that I'm a man know that Eman is somebody who been gone through a process where the Muslim community have chosen him to be the Imam. I'm saying that because I have seen people trying to escape this point, and to allow themselves to declare war against others without the map. The only exception that I made is when somebody attacked you in your home, you didn't need anybody's permission to fight to

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protect yourself that will be permissible.

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I don't have enough time to basically go over the rest of the points that I have. But there is one thing or a few points very quickly I will mention it and related to their methodology also, in fact, I noticed that No, they don't combine by evidence. So they pick one verse or one Hadith, but they do combine all evidence together, which is make the picture clear. So if you see one verse talking about, for instance, fight the kuffar whatever the art, you will find another verses will do its state clarify those who are fighting you, or you will see the practices of Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam did the prophet SAW Selim killed anybody just because he's cafard? And that's one of the

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things that they claim that if somebody is non Muslims, that's enough reason for him to be killed, which is is that how the profits are? treated them? the profits of Solomonic conquered Mecca killed everybody that the prophets of Salaam declared war against the kuffar in Yemen and deserted the tribes not all of them, he fought as if nothing Rahim Allah, Allah, Allah, Mia de la haddam caught, he never start a war with anybody. So Salah is that means only jihad is a defensive, no jihad is it to defend the Muslims. And also sometimes he initiated if you know that this is a threat can harm the Muslims in future and based on this, you will see the actions that took place by the war that

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happened with the Romans and others during the time of the Prophet asylum and Abu Bakr.

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Also, there is no

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a time or they don't look at how also the Sahaba they'll understand the text. One of the famous texts that they always used take the kafala out of gelatin. So that justified them to kill the Americans in Arabia or whatever the unexplained that in my lectures in a detailed way, so you don't think you need which is terrorist violence in the name of Allah? I don't think I need to say that again. But just to let you know, that the kuffaar almost been existent is a little Arab during the prophets of Salaam and after the process a long time in the qualify, they were all this, but the Hadith is talking about they don't or they don't dominate, they don't have a domination of the

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religion over the Arab peninsula. And there is a big debate between the scars to define what is actually are a peninsula some stricted this to Mecca and Medina. Also, you see, one of the issues that the always raises the issue of when I will borrow and maybe that's the last point I will talk about any form of law to the kuffaar it means you are not Muslims. And that's also another misunderstanding and whatnot in Arabic language it means the love and support and the love and support to make it very easy, very simple to you. If you love somebody, and you support their ideologies and their belief and their religion, you became one of them.

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Yeah, you have Latina woman hula hula hula nesara Alia Alia Oba woman yet Allah who minko income for in home in home all who you believe. Don't take Jewish and Christians are Leah. And it's wrong translation to say friends earlier.

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I will hear the word earlier means the person that you love and you support their love and support the religion of each others are the each other's and whoever you mean confer in a woman whoever among you will take them as Olia. He will be among them among them and similar to the sort of children

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tahina in verse number one. But listen to what the scholar said. They said about this verses specifically and literally kowtow to the engineer said mentor Lomonosov, me Nina for whom he led him humility for a new hula tonometer well in a had an in who will be he won't be dealing

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with Robin, he said specifically here

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that this will just take you out of a slump when your love and your support their religion. First is if a Muslim would say I love the concept that Jesus Son of God

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he's not Muslim, he or he became Christian. That's the end of the story. If you love that Muslims, they don't believe that. So if you love that and you support that either you became Muslim you became among them and that's what we call a telenovela. hilum, helmet law and

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law, but there is another Mahara mushrikeen another rely on another machine, which it doesn't take you out of the fold of Islam, even though it is sin, which is your love their sins, or your love, whatever somebody says, I love the concept that you can do anything that is no harm, porticoed, or drinking, it's allowed. I love that and I'm a supporter. Freedom is something like that. In Islam, this is became sin, this is became sin, this is became sin, he's still not haram to drink, still not haram to import, but that became a major sin, or he supported them for a personal reasons. For a person, let's say a Muslim country will support a non Muslim country because they are afraid that

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their economy will go down, afraid that they might attack them. So they support them by doing things which is haram in their country, pressing the Muslims, putting them in jail, stopping down, they don't have on things because of the law to the Kufa would that became kufr. Listen to what the scholar Rahim Allah said. He said, if they were not given because of a person, reason the person interest, but the belief that still exists, that will became a major sins, and the proof for that what happened in the time of the prophets of Salaam. When happened Nabeel tafisa he wrote a letter to the people of Croatia and said, the process of coming to attack your country, and nobody knows

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about it, it's a Trojan, he really revealed that secret, he took them earlier. He gives them a lot of support over the Muslims.

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By giving the process and secrets away, the Prophet told us obey it. I didn't make that and any go

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and find a woman Give me the letter to end the story here. Listen to what Allah Subhana Allah said.

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Yeah, you had a lady in

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Turkey do i do we do welcome? Oh, Leah over you believe? See, he's still cold help. nebia belterra believer,

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even though Allah Subhana Allah said to him, even though Allah also said that he have given a lot to them, given what out to them. And the reason he did that, because he said, Every one of you guys have family member of Christ, I don't have anybody. So I thought maybe doing them a favor. And that's why they protect my family, if there is an attack will take place will take place. That's why they have comment on this first by saying that there is a difference between what a law general law which includes love and support for the dean, and the law.

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said because of personal interest, and if they were not giving this because of fear, a pressure. In this case, there is no harm, you will not even be held accountable for that as a lot harvested and sold at 11 03 verse 28 elantech coming home to bottom line, the love and support if it's related to the religion to the belief that occurred for because of personal interest because of love for sins, that our sin, and if the love and support was given for worldly matters commonly known between humans like all of us, regardless, our legends will always we love and support each other when it comes to fighting cancers, to fighting poverty, to providing education, which is the basics

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foundations that most of the word, modern work today build on love and support this, it is not a Haram. It is something even the prophets of Salaam said about healthful football that if he wouldn't be invited to participate in it, he will do it again that Coalition's to fight. What was wrong at that time. My brothers and sisters

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It is

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sad when you look also that sometimes they try to change our mistakes.

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coating the colors under the map just to deceive others. There is a lot to be said a lot to be discussed, I think what is the role of our civic knowledge and scholars to be aware that these extreme views are those people who claim that the defend Islam this my final point? What's the best argument? Muslims are in danger and justice happened to them? We stand up for the truth to support Islam. Isn't that what do you hear?

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The question that you asked yourself? Did they support any Islam

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that remove any injustice?

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Did the brought any good?

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Without him Tarifa that resolved on the outcome of your actions you will recognize them as

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the only bro distractions,

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those who killed several 1000s in New York not far away from here, what the good they have made to humanity. What good they had made to Islam and Muslims. Oh, dignity, our dignity abroad? Nothing. Nothing. The reality the reality is nothing. you wipe out two countries

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and cause the invasion of two countries.

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It's planned before you know what before and I don't want to transfer this lecture to be a political lectures claiming that America is enemy number one America stretch their hand to have a lot of Muslims why this is a forgotten

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and Bosnians and in the issue of Avalon stand against the Russian it is for personal interest first and this is what you want for the sake of Allah

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It's so weird. You said it's further Yes. Didn't today establish the communication with a partner band to have a pipelines for gas to use a follow ban and they were rejected by the Taliban government? Yes, they are looking for interest you will look for somebody else like Mr. Chairman to help them

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but if you're not smart enough to know how to play the game, you don't deserve to lead the Muslims word. If you didn't know how to make the decision wisely if you didn't know how to protect your people, you don't deserve to be in the first line if the only thing you know it just to push the button or to blow yourself up that's not what the what that's not what gonna make a change in the future of Islam and Muslims.

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Just ask yourself what good they have brought to the Muslims in Islam

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nothing

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and put all this argument in the site. Everything the claim that they're trying to establish by what you're doing, the only doing the opposite.

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My last parameter Allah you come with me I'm assuming you can hire a lot of money silicon turion Hakata lokomotiva. What to do about it about Mr. Yabba Allahumma salli ala Muhammad Ali, Mohammed

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Ibrahim, Ibrahim, thank you very much. Whatever it said is correct. It's from Allah. And it was wrong and it is for myself. And I really, really deeply from my heart, I encourage all of us to focus on education to learn our Deen, before we rush into these issues, judging peoples and governments and individuals and war. There are so many things need, you need to deal with it in your own life in your personal life. And I think we should put our priorities straight, and to focus in what will bring prosperity and good to us as Muslims, as a citizen of

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whatever country because it's a mixed crowd you from you should be a person who bring good to the table, not to bring disasters and animosity and, and and problems to yourself and your family and your community. May Allah Allah, Allah, Allah Allah, Allah Mohammed, thank you very much.

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Michelle salatu salam ala rasulillah.

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In the time daanish was making the announcement real quick. I was just asking shift will lead her for the whole about what sort of questions I can ask him, because we got a lot. And hamdulillah he told me he said I don't like censorship. And I don't like stage questions. So he said what the people wrote, just say Satan in front of everybody. So

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dhanesh is right, the CDs for sale. But this q&a is not for sale. So I would definitely stay seated, because there's some interesting questions.

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So with that in sha Allah, the first question is this. Check what leaders have to live here for your talk. religious extremism in Jihad and violence is definitely a real problem today.

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But do you think as much as the scholars are emphasizing the Jihad and violence in these problems, maybe they're forgetting to focus on other problems, like modernism and other issues? Because so many times we only hear about this type of extremism now. And nobody's talking about the other issues.

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Similar. First of all, I would like to say, I agree on the concept, we should not focus on one problem, forget all the other problems. There's so many problems in the Muslim world, and in the Muslim community and other communities. Well, that's why out of more than maybe

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500 lectures are given America, that is three of them only about terrorism. So I don't think I'm focusing on terrorism.

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That one out of all this lecture that you're going to hear today, that's the only lecture dealing with this issue. But we just try I agree with you, we have to be moderate and hamdulillah. I have, I want to tell you that there's something we really greatly take in consideration. Yes.

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Another question. Sure. If you had said in your talk, that jihad is an Islamic word and a beautiful word. Could you just give a comment explaining what you meant by that?

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Jihad and slap the word Jihad comes from an hour which is struggling when you put so much work and emphasis and effort on something.

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LG had has so many meanings that no am Rahim Allah, so that has five different meanings. You can read that in southern ad, and it's available in English as well. As you have not only necessarily means fighting with carrying weapons and fighting the enemies, no. Jihad can be with words, as Allah Subhana Allah said, which are hidden behind Jihad and Kabira. You fight the Kufa with the Koran. Use the Quran as a tool of jihad. So it is an intellect Jihad struggle. Also je de Lucia Kenobi, Mr. de como fusi, come, ye D come, on synergy come.

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Perform jihad, administer mushrikeen, with your wealth with your money with your tongue and with your hands. So the jihad is a very common word. A lot of them also said, For Hadith Sahih, Hadith nsra Allahu Allah that the prophet SAW Selim said, the best Mujahid or the best form of jihad, when you stood up in front of unjust ruler, and you tell him the truth, and you confront him with the truth, then he will might excuse your kill you see, it's a very noble way you stand up in front of me talk to him, there is no penetrating there is no deceiving.

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It's very straightforward. You stand up and you talk to him.

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That's basically some examples of how the word Jihad was used and other than the physical terms the tangible way which is carrying weapons and fighting someone.

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So for us, Jihad for Muslim jihad is a system to ensure that when there is a Muslim state, that the way they declared wars peace, basically

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equal to what known today, the defense ministers state security, defense, Secretary of Defense, something like that whatever rules will govern the Muslims basically in this area that what we call it a Baba jihad, the chapters of jihad.

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This is a this is combining a question that many people ask, shake does ocular care? You touched upon some history in your lecture. And you mentioned Afghanistan in the 1980s 70s. And 80s, was a great thing. Can you differentiate that Afghanistan and today is what is happening today also a noble Jihad? Is something happening today also the good type of jihad that we should all be proud of? Can you please elaborate?

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First of all, in the 80s, the Jihad was from the Muslims, the

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Muslims groups, even though it was not something we were happy with pleased with, that they were more than seven groups

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fighting, and they're not united together in the fight against the Russian.

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And I remember personally not talking about somebody else. talking to some of the leaders of these groups like to say yeah, funny, listening to their talk and raising these questions to them saying, if you are seven groups,

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Now, how many of you will be when the war finished?

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If in the time before your seven after war, how many cribs you got to be and what I anticipated and so many others at that time happened that after the Russian are defeated and pull out from one, Stan, what was 1994? Maybe something like that. I'm not good in numbers. But anyway,

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whenever they pulled out of understand, the world civil war started, the Civil War started. And until today, you see there is a civil war happening and understand that one, Stan and the Iraq issue is not America versus Paderborn is not America or NATO versus BonBon is not America versus erahthi. That's wrong way to put it. That's not the reality. The reality is there is a group of the Afghani people, with the Americans against some of the Muslims and of honestok those Iraqi people, with the Americans against some of the Iraqi people. I please now for the time being, even forget about how it starts. Now. You have a government in place, you have a system in place, and it became the war.

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It's a civil war inside that country inside that country. And is that a reason for a person to say that the government will be cafard have been Hezbollah him alive in though is a very strong person in his opinion. He said, no doubt, it's one of the worst, worst sins to use the kuffar in war against your own brothers, so you can take over the country. But he said, I don't see any text and Koran or sadhana or agema will say that such person capital and he said that Allah Rahim, Allah how to add.

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So

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one of the things that they always used, they just say, this governor is Kaffir, to the government to go far to justify basically the war against them. And upon stand today, it has, it has a government, regardless of how good or bad this government just or unjust it is, I think the funny people needed and maybe it's regret talking about the past. But I think this group of melodic group, instead of dragging the power band to a war against the word, they should put their effort to stablish into strength, that young stage towards coming up, instead of pushing it toward the direction that it gets them nowhere to get to know where hamdulillah Allah spirit, Allah has a

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wisdom behind whatever happened, but no doubt today it is a civil war happening there. Mr. Magnusson Muslims. So and in such fight, it's very clear the Muslim order to avoid such situation going there and to fight under which banner under Who? For what, for what cause? What's the goal? What's the establishment, that is going to happen after that? This is what I call it title title, right? In a media, you go to war under unknown banners. And no doubt, I have no doubt in my heart, that such participation in a such from the people and going and doing such things is not a correct action.

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Okay. Bismillah. This is going to be the last question at this point, because we have other lectures as well. And I've just been told by my brother Dinesh that we have some guests here who are here to see the shake some media and other guests. But in travel, there will be a comprehensive question and answer session tonight. And all of the mcgroove Institute instructors are very approachable for people who have questions. So with that, this will be the last question for this session.

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And again, this is paraphrasing multiple questions that were like this share you in your lecture, you mentioned different organizations. What about organizations like Hamas that are more complex, they do a lot of good. They do social services, they set up schools, they help the community that maybe they also have certain wings that are extreme, or maybe certain wings that do have some problems as well. Do you have any comments about organizations like that?

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I was talking about the community like trend for these terrorist groups and individual they avoid to be part of the community avoid to have part of the community.

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As for talking about the examples of Hezbollah and social work that they do in Lebanon, I never been there. I don't have really my own research about them or Hamas itself. So talking about them in detail that will be another issue, but let me tell you what I know in his book

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It's a she organizations even the support goes to she regroups among them, even that money that they give and distribute goes to the Shia to the Shia, even though the banner that the declare that they carry is the banner of nationalism. But if you are a member of Hezbollah you have to be shielded, which is a contradiction, which is a country How can you talk about nationalism and only recognize the shear to be part of you, even as a listener, their the their participation in fighting the occupation in southern of Lebanon and southern Lebanon, in Masada, Shabbat, for example, there were so many people they never been recognized by the media or by them, and their contribution never was

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mentioned. It is a very

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close minded group in his village. And

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we know the history of Hezbollah in terrorizing Muslims and Sunnis, the killing that took place by the hand of a man who eventually dissolve and basically became part of his villa and Sabra and Shatila is something will not be forgotten, the Palestinians that they have suffered and killed by the hand of the shooting militia.

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And the extreme Christian militia as well. And

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in Lebanon, it's something we handle still have our memory fresh, and we

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remember that they have done a lot of acts of terrorism, but you might be helping and aiding for a political reasons like giving money and food for recruiting reasons for recruiting reasons as for Hamas, they are not included in the group that I'm talking about today. Hamas it wasn't elected. It was an elected government. And also Hamas has nothing to do with either Hamas has nothing to do with the Belarusian Hamas, it is a political issues, putting it

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listing it in a terrorist group. What defined terrorists is not the State Department for us, what define terrorist group is not the nature would define terrorist for Muslims, scholars like my students knowledge like myself, it will be the Quran and Sunnah the kuranda islamically auditor's group or not, we might, I might disagree with them. And certain issues. And one of the issues I disagree with it completely the suicide bombing, that something I don't believe it is allowed, even if it's done intellibeam. Even it's done to an anywhere. I don't believe that is correct. But that's a personal opinions. And I take as for them, they are different completely from the group that I'm

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talking about

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earlier.

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Okay, with that in Trello, we're breaking as I said, you can ask the shake other questions in the q&a, but not right now. There's two brothers waiting at the stairway, who are gonna block you from asking the shake anything, and they're taking him straight to visit with the media? See these topics bring the media out. Also, I just want to say that when I talk about this, my speeches you notice is not directed to the media.

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Because I believe I can talk to the media, but I know I don't mind stop. But you more important to me than the media.

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Those who will hear these tapes later on were more important to the media. I'm not waiting for any recognitions. Or, you know what I stop every time I fly like you guys. You know, I came to Baltimore I was stopped in the airport, the last person to maybe to enter the airplane. And I don't care and I because I say what I said because I believe that's correct. And that's when I said the nature of the Muslim community is to fight terrorism, the nature of the Muslim community to stand up for the truth, even if it is against ourselves when we can, even if he is a friend or a family member, we will stand for the truth and stop the abuser from abusing others will love items.