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it to only for his sake Harless Luigi Karim. As we say sincerity is one of the most important if not the most important thing in this Deen 100 lacquer on morality. And it gives me a great pleasure today to use dear friend who I came to know her through the whatsapp group that we have an Alice pantalla inshallah will allow me to be I mean, or allow us to meet she actually is joining us from the other side of the world, believe it or not, she's joining us from Australia. And on demand Dean, as she always like to be named. And this is actually the sooner is to be called by your cornea is actually again joining us from Australia where she currently actually teaches at the astronomik

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College of Sydney, Marshall matsubara Kala and she's a mother of five martial law, Tamara, Colombian law protect them all. And she's currently finishing her last year or last semester actually our VA in and also attend Medina International

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College, she actually teaches foreign and various Sharia

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disciplines at the Islamic College of Australia. The most other important thing other than being a mother, she's actually a revert to Islam, Allah subhanaw taala guided her that her like he shot law guide us continuously and opened her heart not only to Islam, but to love it, and to give her time and energy to learn the details and the depth of it. So absolutely gives me a great pleasure to welcome on Jamal de sister Mona and does acula here on for joining us.

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It's an absolute honor to be here. And I'm very humbled, you know, to be invited here, you know, to your platform, and I asked a level talent to reward you and bless you in all of your our efforts being

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among, you know, be me. So where do we start your own humanity, I'm gonna move from on demand due to system owner, or shareholder actually it should be a homeowner, or shareholder.

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And I'm going to be very honest here when I was a little bit more viral. And I said soheila law. So hello, Panama. So let's start with the most important topic to me and every time I need a revert, and this is not about a person is about the journey, because it's an inspiring journey. What makes somebody who's not a Muslim, to accept Islam, love it, give it their life and energy and to study share it with us as men may have lost pantaloni would you Well, that was a Kiki Alomar Jacobian.

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So, well, I just want to start off by you know, let's talk first of all about the importance of studying Islamic knowledge. Okay, this is the most important thing we need to start off with, like, if we look at what the prophets that allow us to learn, you told us in authentic hadith, you know, bonobo in me for either one Allah Cooley Muslim like so, you know, seeking knowledge is an obligation upon every Muslim. So we need to realize, first of all that, you know, there are some types of knowledge that are considered to be a fad line, like father lion, like ezine if we want to reach agenda safely, then there are some types of knowledge that are considered to be as an

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individual obligation on every single one of us to know about you know, as you know, I'm sure Hofer you know, knowing about a lot of time and knowing about his names and defects you know, knowing his rubia he's here like singling him out alone any bad or singling him out alone in in worship, and You know, we need to have at least basic knowledge about his messenger Mohammed's that along when he was sent him, you know, how we need to love the Messenger of Allah, how we need to follow Him and all that he commanded us. We

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You also need to have the basic knowledge at least of the deen of Allah slam. You know that and the Canon Islam, you know our Salah a soul as Hajj you know how to pray properly how to, you know, do will do unwholesome and how to recite the Quran properly, right? So these are all from the these are all from the types of knowledge that none of us has an excuse not to know about. All right, we all need to have this basic type of knowledge no matter who we are right. But then the second thing I always say to sisters, is that, you know, at this time when our Alma is being constantly exposed to so many different types of deviant lifestyles, right, and ways of thinking, none of us can afford

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not to be taking continue and active measures in order to protect ourselves and our families. But in the past, you may have been able to get away with, you know, relying on the limited knowledge that you received from your parents, or your viewsonic school that you went to. But now, you know, we're living in a time where you know, remaining ignorant, especially about the foundations of your deen, it's no longer a choice anymore. Right. So we need to realize that the stronger you find that negative pushes against your Eman and against your morals and principles as a Muslim or muslimah. The more proactive we need to be in pushing back against all of that even harder. Because unless

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someone has proper a proper Foundation, obviously we acknowledge how are they going to distinguish between what is Hawk and what is Barton? This is the biggest problem we're facing today. distinguishing between what is the truth? What is the falsehood? What is the hell? What is the harm? What is a man what is what is disbelief, right? So, and especially if you're a parent, then it's Paramount that we build up our knowledge to a level where we can become our children's number one authority on Islam when they come to ask us questions. You know, because if you're not teaching them and discussing things with your kids, from the SME perspective, then you know, what you're basically

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doing is you're you're leaving them vulnerable for others to come and fill their heads with all kinds of misguidance. Like, it's like throwing your child who doesn't know how to swim properly into the middle of the ocean and expecting them not to drown. That's what you're doing. So this is this is why I see. You know, now every single one of us revert or not revert, you know, we need to, we need to,

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you know, really be trying to to protect ourselves with this knowledge that Allah Allah has given us.

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alone. The reason I'm asked about accepting Islam. Now the reason I'm saying this, because, again, women and men, Muslims in general sometimes because for us, and I'm speaking about myself, and how I was given this from my birth, we really don't know, the value. The what Allah subhanaw taala gave us. And we take it for granted. We don't know the struggles, the other people and this is why I wanted to start with this, maybe in a line or two is when you tell sisters who are listening to us move Muslims with no effort just given to us. Yeah. Look, look, I just want to say to you, what made me start out.

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seeking knowledge is basically to me knowledge was the kind of matter of survival. You know, I was when I first reverted I was living at home with my non Muslim family. I was going to work every day with there's no Muslims in my workplace. I was studying part time at university, so I was not in any environment where Muslims were around supporting me. So what happened was, I found myself in a situation where I was being constantly challenged in my beliefs as a Muslim on a daily basis, like, constantly having people criticize me throw questions at me, why does Islam allow this? Why does Islam allow that, you know, and so I found that very, is very difficult because I had no knowledge

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at all. So I was very vulnerable. Right? I was very vulnerable. And if I didn't, you know, actively seek the knowledge, I would have drowned, out of literally drowned, you know, and I wouldn't have survived, you know, it's panel of it's a lot depends on 100 I protected me Of course, right. But, um, but that's what happens. So, because that happened to me, you know, I, it pushed me to, to go and seek out the answers. You know, that's what actually got me on the path. First of all, you know, I knew I knew for survival, I need to seek out the answers. I need to seek out knowledge, you know, people who have more knowledge than myself, I need to read, you know, I need to educate myself. So

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this is this is what, you know, started me out on this journey, but that's exactly why I read this because a lot of us born Muslim, young than old us specially born Muslims in western world, what is missing, to stay strong to stay

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connected with the last panel with Allah, to keep going against the flow is the education and that's why I have this young humanity is what makes me stay strong. believe in Allah and literally we have people are not even believing Muslims. Why? Because of lack of knowledge. So this will bring me back into why should we study? Woman specifically, Islamic study, from our point of view, living in a different parts of the world and studying a number of different parts of the world.

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Yes, so I mean, look, what what what made me get started, you know, to seek knowledge on a more serious level was I felt that if I wanted to stay strong in this Deen, then the only way I'm going to be able to do that is if I basically, you know, solidify myself with a proper foundation in knowledge. And, you know, as we all know, there's always these constant doubts and confusions that arise in the oma is always different groups that come up and ideas and, and so that's why, you know, I realized the only way I'm going to get peace of mind and not get confused with all these issues, was to focus on gaining as much knowledge as I could. And that's why actually, from the very

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beginning, I decided I'm going to learn Arabic language, because I want to be able to go direct to the sources, I want to go, I want to be able to go direct to, you know,

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the Arabic the books of knowledge, so that I didn't need anyone, I didn't need to rely on anyone to interpret that for me. Right. And I knew that like Arabic was like the key you needed to unlock the door to gaining the deep knowledge of Islam. Right. And then after that, I began to realize the role that was there for me in you know, transferring that knowledge, I was able to access to my sisters who only knew English. So that's what really inspired me to want to deepen my knowledge even further. Right? That's, that's what got me on the journey, actually, the real journey of you know, seeking knowledge. But you know, if we're talking about, um, if we're talking about, you know, for

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women in particular, right, we need to realize, you know, there's so much blessings that come into your life, for the one who seeks knowledge with a class, you know, the one who seek knowledge with, you know, true class for a lot true sincerity for Allah. There's so many blessings that come into your life now, from the greatest of these blessings that Allah, Allah tells us about in the Quran, where he says Yoda in learn will lead ina M and will mean cool when Latina, Latina Dada jets, right that Allahu taala raises those of you who believe, and those of you with knowledge, dada jets in levels. So one thing we've learned from this ayah is how Allahu taala through knowledge when you

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seek it sincerely for his sake, that he elevates and raises you in status Bismillahi tala. Right. So we need to realize that what I say to sisters, right, is that when a when a woman in particular seeks knowledge, not only does she raised her own status, but you'll see how she also raises in status, her children and the other, you know, family and community members that she interacts with, because, in general, you know, we can consider women as like, you know, the nurturers, and carers of the oma like, they're the ones who spend most of the time raising the next generation. So that's why we need to realize that, you know, we as women have, we have such a crucial role to play as you

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know, the influences and the changemakers of the oma from within

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them. That's why, you know, if you strengthen the women of this woman with knowledge, you're literally strengthening the core of the whole Islamic ummah.

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Right, so this is why I am particularly passionate about teaching sisters, I know that's exactly your passion as well. Show her that, you know, because, you know, you know that when you teach a sister, you can see the transformational change that that has on her, not only on her, but even on her children and whole household like you teach your Quran. You teach a sister for on panelo you'll see her children learn the Quran through her, right, you teach her

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to parallel you see how her children know they grow up knowing how to pray, you know, according to the way the Messenger of Allah prayed, right? They know how to fast according to the way the Messenger of Allah so long as I'm used to fast, you teach her? Yeah, you see how she built in her tawakkol you know her, her reliance upon Allah is lust for Allah. Right? her strength of the men in Allah subhanaw taala you teach her at Debbie teacher Tez kiya you see how she starts to mold her character right and and influences the whole household because it's fine a lot when it when the mother makes a change. She changes the whole household like I even know that with with my with my

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diet, you know, when I changed my diet, you know, my family said to eat healthfully after I changed my diet. So this is the woman has a huge influence. You know

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Hi. So, I have salutely absolutely like I think you touched on a couple of points and I want to just reiterate them because number one, and this is to all the sisters out there, you are invaluable in your home. No one can replace your role. The mothers I mean, this is why I was on a site to sit on the famous of youth which probably everyone know or have heard all his men I happen to be stopped by trs, Allah who are among people in general has the most right for my companionship with and he said Mother, Mother, mother three, why? Because you, you basically touched on it, the mother is the influencer in the house, you look at what she does, you're going to see at least one or two of her

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children follow her footsteps.

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Grown Up woman now and will agree with me and I had this conversation with non Muslims. It's exactly how we say things exactly our mother, mothers used to say same statement, and we didn't like it before. So the number one is, as a woman, don't underestimate this is what I was trying to share with everyone your value as a mother. And that's why I said this to share her own drama with him. Before we started, I love to introduce the Shahada, the scholars woman scholars, number one as mothers, because this is in the sight of Allah is number one. So very, estimate your value and influence in the house. Number two is taught whatever you learn, if the children will follow you,

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you learn how to pray properly, children will follow you start getting engaged more with the Quran, you see your children, and I'm sure everybody has seen these videos, beautiful videos and pictures of young children on the on the top of their father when he's praying and you with him, or with the mother and with her. So that's number two. Number three, and and I need to explain to everyone is not everybody has to be a scholar. But definitely we need female scholars, like we need female physicians, doctors, engineers, lawyers, we meet female scholars, and it is possible now it's becoming much more possible, much more possible than before. That's true. Where do we start? We're

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going to come to it but you you touched on it to start with is learning the Arabic language specially for those who are planning to have the Islamic knowledge as their career. You You are like some people wants to be doctors, teachers, mother, homemaker, mother only if you are planning to become a scholar, and that's something highly needed. And the Arabic language is a must I fully agree with you. Because you will not be able to reach the original, the original depth and the knowledge itself without the Arabic. Absolutely. So May Allah reward you for for for this now. But I want to get into and this is a very common question. By the way, for everyone who's listening to us.

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We'll give you about 10 minutes, inshallah at the end to for all your questions and we will take your questions. Number two is, and this is a lot I know. But if you can serve arise, obstacles, obstacles,

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women. And by the way, for those of you who don't know, Shere Khan, john and myself both who studied in Saudi, he studied, I studied in gender, right?

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Yeah, like I studied, I studied in the

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Quran and Islamic Studies I've been studying from scholars in Riyadh. Yeah. So she was actually to the same aura unschool Subhan Allah that I went to, and it's a beautiful small building, but what came out of that very simple building, you can't believe it. First and Second floor is the Arabic speaking people. And third floor upstairs is actually the non Arab speaking and how should How is the so May Allah give her Jamaican for those who also taught to me and sisters in general to know how very well because she helped us in in establishing our television or an programs checker Karima the main one give ability to produce if she's listening for us. So tell us about the obstacles young

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Giamatti? We can share that kind of stuff. Yeah, look, I like to give people a realistic image of what it looks like, just to try to take knowledge as as a female right, coming from the west. Okay, so I can honestly say that I have always had the burning desire to see gains right from the very beginning. I really was that's my passion. Okay, so, for me, it's never been about being lazy or not being motivated enough. Okay. What happened was just after I got married, not long after I got married,

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The first obstacle I encountered was I have to be honest, the lack of established institutions that accepted females. Okay, I would have to go and study at Medina.

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Exactly. And look, look, I asked everywhere, you know, just fine which university will take females? The only one not I should say non citizen females because the Saudis they can go to certain other universities.

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Anyway, what happened was I only only Cora they told me only on the phone, right? So, look, I went, I have a fly with my husband, you know, um, but I'm telling you, as you know, the show overseas, like, you know, it's like, everything was extremely complicated to the level that I basically had no chance to get in. Okay, but I am humbled and I'm heading for the lab. I was, I was extremely determined to get that knowledge, no matter what, nothing. I even remember sitting on the lounge of the granddaughter of a great island that I was in contact, I said to her, even if I'm 50 I'm never gonna give up this dream. And honestly, I've, I've truly, truly adopted that, right.

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If I can stop you, because I remember this most point, to be clear, never give up. Now, that's, that's extremely important, specially in the knowledge of a loss. pantalla because you have not only external obstacles, yoneyama you have internalized obstacles, it is me, it is me, my there's my shaitan there is my Neff smile on how our desire This is difficult, why I'm doing this, they don't want me that's fine. Never, ever give up. And I always used to remind myself exactly the same story, that this is the knowledge of the law. This is not the knowledge of dunia as as the more you look at it as virtuous. And you're reading the book of Allah, you're reading the world. And even when you

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study fedcon, you know how difficult it is, and also and all this, but this is the path that will get me closer to Allah, we determined never give up. That's exactly the word. Now please forgive me for interruptions. But

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wasn't that because I found that door slammed in my face? I could say, Okay, I had to actually take a huge detour in order to gain data that I wanted, right. So like so I basically decided, alright, if I can't get into my first option, then I'm going to have to work on all the things I need to do in order to get that knowledge. Right. So basically, I got the grammar books from Korra I started working on those grammar books, you know, teaching myself Arabic, of course, my husband's Arabic speaking, by the way, I should mention,

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in Hamden, I enrolled in Barracuda foreign school in Judah. I started focusing on learning to read and memorizing Quran, right. Then what happened was, this is this is cutting out a long story short, okay. Then I came back to Australia, I did a bi languages. Here in Sydney. I majored in Arabic language, okay, that would that would give me the Arabic program. That's what I was hoping. And then, because I had enough Arabic by then, I started to study and Mattoon and aimia right, which is like Islamic texts. And I started studying them from specialist scholars, who was called from Kenyatta Jamie mm in Riyadh might be based in Riyadh, such as you might have heard of like Sheikh

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Saad and Flan ships, Khalid a thought and Muslim, right, those scholars, because I knew like when I found out was that students have knowledge. They always study with one alongside their formal studies, but even if they're studying in Medina University, they always study what's wrong with the learner in Michigan every right so I thought, you know what, let me just take that program. I'll take that program off, or at least I take that right. So I kept on studying that system. Until eventually some of the you know mishmar show up they recommended this particular degree I'm currently studying it's very similar to the Medina program. Okay, very, very similar. We say similar

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books that said, Gemma, Jenkinson, Medina, la linea,

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that's the degree I'm doing.

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Alright, but like I said, I had to basically take that, you know, massive detour before I was able to, you know, finally do what I wanted to so that's the that's the first obstacle right? Um, but lack of institutions has, I'm sure that a lot of sisters face this. I'm always getting questions from sisters. But that's the reality of the situation right.

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If I can add because we want the sisters not to think that completely slacked. There is lack of institutions for women absolutely in the West.

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Yeah, isn't the resin in general, actually in the West, I'm talking about the United States and I'm sure are certainly also the firm of the established stomach institutions, we don't have it, let alone for women simply because we are, as I call the babies living in the West, if you are going to plan to go overseas, the lack of the women institutions, I will say, because I studied in a woman institution, I took a different detour, because I have a little bit different situation when I had to work as an OB GYN so I can stay in the country. But I made it easy. And this is the point I want to try to give to everybody. I will test you. And I can tell you, he will test you very hard. Do you

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really want me and you really want my knowledge? Or you are doing it just because whatever. We're here to test you when you are steadfast as the word you said in the beginning, he will open it mean Heisler doesn't mean that that this would mean he will open it up to you from doors you can never believe in my situation is different than yours, because I had to work in gender. And then alesund Institute it's part of women are, the more I learned it was the first year they had it for women only. And guess what? I see the school from my office in the hospital Marshalls I cross the street, but we didn't come right out. I didn't even know about it. So yes. However, if you go other parts of

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the world, there are but they are again, not as plenty as an options for women. So don't give up and say there isn't. But the road is harder for women because of the institution because for other reasons. So here

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are the tour.

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That's right.

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Exactly. We will come it will come when we get tequila hug agenda, Maharajah

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so he will come but you have to be patient. We'll talk about that. But I think

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that was the first obstacle I faced, then. Okay, then the other obstacle I want to call obstacle, it's not nice to call obstacle, but let's just

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do that. That's a better word. Yes. So the other thing is that obviously, the more children you have, right, then, you know that, you know, it becomes an even greater challenge to find time. And, and the energy to focus on your knowledge goals. Okay, so what was with me, for example, you know, when I first started, I've got one child, that was easy when I have one child, but then and Hamdulillah, I had, you know, I had twins actually. And so then it was three children. And, you know, and look, I'll be honest with you, when I had my children,

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I made them more of a priority than my own self, like I had to, I felt like I wanted to give my children the Quran when they growing up. Because as you know, if you memorize the Quran, when you're in your youth, it sticks with you not like as an adult, as an adult, it's very hard, it takes a lot of revision, a lot of, you know, years to memorize. Whereas as it when you when you get it as a child, it's like tapana lights like, engraved in stone, right? So that's why when my children were young, most of my time I spent, you know, teaching them help and helping to memorize the Quran. And I wanted them to be strong in both their religious and secular education. Okay, I didn't want I

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wanted both for my kids. So I, I didn't just concentrate only on religious studies, but I also and hamdulillah you know, worked with them to make sure that they would be able to have, you know, good, you know, shelter, education, the future. So that's, that's another thing that you know, as a woman we have, we got to understand that, you know, you're going to have these extra challenges that are going to come in your path. And then on top of that, obviously, you know, you're going to try to balance your time between your husband, your household, your teaching, your Dawa, you know, so you have to be honest, you have it is important to have a supportive husband to be able to do that. All

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right, males carry war, all the husbands who support their they wives in this path, okay?

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They have to realize the value like husbands didn't realize the value of having you know, their wife You know, is empowered with this knowledge Now, what does it do to your family? What does it do to your children? You know, it's kind of like they realize their value, inshallah they will support your journey on you know, they will support your journey. Okay. Obviously Another one is like traveling I mean only give me example of I finished level three times we need you know, in Barracuda I found out I'm having twins I actually studied right up until I gave birth with those twins, but I couldn't go anymore. You know and done. I had to leave and I was very sad because I wanted to do the

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last final. I wanted to do the final you know, the final lab level book

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And I thought so Pamela I'm never going to get a loan and I'm going to get to do that, you know, and then the Panama the internet game, and I ended up studying Russian Kadima online and I got my agenda through her online, you know, I mean, so. So that's traveling has always been, it's always going to be an issue, you know, like, especially if you're married, especially if you've got children, it's not easy to just move around easily and go, you know, other places and it's normal, you know, okay, if I if I want to objective,

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check her on jamaludin I'm gonna say something from my background, how many physicians women are there who are successful, they're mothers, they have children, they have their own office, but they manage so why does it and I this is the question for the woman. Why when it comes to Islamic Studies, I cannot balance I don't know where to start to look at your friends and whether physicians lawyers, engineers, teachers, any job what job you do find management, I'm not sure what that article loggers woman no everywhere must be no one works everywhere. Market is exactly the same with one plus the static education when you are getting it and let alone If Allah subhanaw taala allowed

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you and wanted to use you to supply the knowledge in our you are getting also more rewards. So there is so there is the obstacle because that obstacle is with the woman in Aragon she is going to use however, you also put in a very beautiful point when you are a mother. Some of you have heard me saying this many times. Either priorities changed. what pleases or law changes, meaning if I am a single woman, and I am memorizing my Koran, I can spend 10 hours in my memorization if I don't work, because that's the priority. But if I am married,

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to please our last pantalla reading 10 hours or memorizing 10 hours of the Quran, and not giving my husband do right and my family do right there is not pleasing to Allah. So one of the things that knowledge will give you is how to set up your priorities, not according to what I want, and what I like, according to what Allah once. So when I am changing the diaper of my baby, don't look down on what you are doing that's pleasing to Allah, because that's the light of the child upon you. And when you feel the right of a child, allow the word you if I was memorizing around and the child is neglected, unless pantalla will take me accountable for this. So the priorities? Absolutely. So

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number one obstacles for women in energy spring, you will get may we'll find them the proper one for Islamic Studies little bit harder. That's true. But it's getting easier with that with the internet, as you just mentioned, none of those took your priorities cannot even your 20s and you are single years or if you are in your 20s and you have children, and this become number two, meaning it will take longer time, instead of finishing in two years, let you finish in 10. It doesn't matter. So anyway, I hope this is clear for everyone. And then my beautiful sisters who are listening to us and Hungarian from all over the world. Feel free to ask and we will put the questions at the end

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inshallah. Go ahead. I'm enjoying it more than you. Yeah.

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So, look, I'll just say this, that, you know, all these different challenges, they definitely did slow me down in achieving my goals. Right. But Alhamdulillah I just want to also say that I don't regret one moment the effort that I put into my children and family, especially when they were young. Right? And Pamela shefa, high fat hedeman for the law, you know, a level Tyler wielded after all these years that my oldest son is currently now studying in Medina University, right. And he's actually doing the same degree, the same degree that I'm doing.

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Actually, we're actually a P is now

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discuss, you know, football. So we have arguments, you know.

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And that is

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let's prove the points we discussed earlier. For those of you in case you missed it is when you study as a mother, they influence on your children now.

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So go ahead. Yes. So that's that's basically you know, that's basically I mean, as far as you know, the obstacles are that's basically a nutshell the life of a woman but you've got to realize, you know, women intend to go through different stages you know, you have your, your young you know, your stage before being married. A lot of people waste that time.

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A lot of wasted time before marriage, and then when they get married, they realized upon a loss only I took advantage of that time, you know,

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but after getting married, even when you're busy

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have kids you still got plenty of time right again people waste that time then you have your first you can still do a fair bit but I have lots of kids come to my classes they tell me Don't worry I'll keep coming to the lessons no matter what but when by the time the second kid comes it can be very hard bringing two small children you know to classes. So I really just is getting married Get it?

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I'm gonna put that question on July June because it is related to the point we discussed. We need the this is very common question. Actually, not this one. I'll come to this one later. Please forgive me. Because it was okay, here we go.

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So how does how to start studying

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as a basic beginner? Yeah.

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Like I I'm going to tell you something I actually obviously started from absolutely nothing I didn't know Arabic language at all how to read Arabic I wasn't I didn't even listen to Arabic growing up. Okay, so I just start from scratch and how I first started memorizing the Quran, I actually started memorizing the Quran before I could read it in Arabic. I used to write it in the transliteration and I used to spend a lot with the English underneath. I used to memorize like that, until I was able to get into Arabic script, but I'll just say how we teach like so basically, you have to learn the Arabic letters first. You need to learn the Arabic letters, you need to learn how to join the Arabic

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letters. And then what will the program I follow I think it might be the same public program you followed its Delphine method where you read from the most half itself. And you you know like I get my students to read from the short sort of the Quran and they keep on you know, that's after they are already able to you know link words together we go straight into the short sort of the Quran and we get them you know, get them to read it slowly and they slowly build up fluency when they keep repeating it over and over again you do need there's gonna be a lot of repetition to get fluency in Quran

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I think people need to have

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they need to have a realistic expectation that in order to get fluency like when when I started at the Quran school for example, to get fluency in just one page I have to read it maybe 10 times every single day you know me 10 times each new page until I was able to get it to a certain level of fluency so there is there is going to be a large amount of effort for you if you haven't grown up with Arabic language but a lot of most Muslims but most most born Muslims have got some Arabic from when they're small, they won't have to go through inshallah as much as what someone using Arabic background completely. Sister Fozia I want to add 200 Mega blanning these days also Malala hosted my

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beautiful systems 10 years ago, none of this was existing 10 years ago, I'm not saying 20 or last one it is our century, but literally 10 years ago, the for example we'll start from the basic there is so many programs for Quranic Arabic I can talk about the hours gentleness attitude taught by a woman it's online the teacher is not out of and this is the main reason we chose her. None of went through the difficulties. Take it easy. You know what, it's your teachers you own your Quranic Arabic that's what you need. Once you can read the Quran and understand it the other books is a piece of cake. And now this young German D because even for us, how are we speaking? Do you think

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when I read I understand everything? I mean, after news you do that in general, of course that's when you start with Quranic Arabic. Right find uplink handler online. The sister said she works full time job Alhamdulillah I worked full time and working full time because I'm an OB GYN I deliver babies. A lot make it easy. You said that beautifully in the beginning and one of the sisters for a cheer No Yes, tequila ah Allahu Maharaja. And this is amazing. I am sort of Paula. And and the others I had these comments about it is basically if anyone reads this area will be more than enough for him or her. If you have Taqwa of Allah in case of knowledge, what is the taqwa of Allah? I am

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studying for you your law. I know for sure you will reward me. I am going to do it in the way that pleases you. And I know you will make it easy. That's who you're connected with him. Well, one of the level he opens doors to you without you knowing where it's coming from, and we'll make it easy. Plus, be patient Be patient and a lot would open it.

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Another question, do you modify per diem, Jamal D is fine a promotion? Or do you want to continue with yours and that are correct later? Well, if you want to talk maybe a bit about advice we can do so

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talk a bit about advice for sisters in bed. So look as you sort of mentioned before like people ask you about knowledge What should I do so I you toast is there's really two paths you can go down with knowledge right? But the main thing is just to be somewhere on this path. You know think about the Hadith of the Prophet SAW Lotus and when he said min Seneca on El temi Sufi here in men, sal Allahu Allahu behavorial, cornea Jana, right? The Imitation path to knowledge, right? If it takes a path to knowledge, a level to other makes the path to Janna easy for them. You know, you'll see how a lot opens your life where you put Baraka in your life and show and everything but even there, right? So

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just be somewhere on this path. Even if it's just one is less than a week you go to and hamdulillah right? So there's two different paths. One is that you just want it for you, your family, okay? So you just find a hell of a once a week or you know, enrolled in a crime class or something like that, you know, study exam online. Um, but if you want to go the other path, like I said, the only way really, the real way is to you have to learn Arabic, you really need to learn Quran. Okay, so, but talking about, you know, advice in general, like you mentioned before, number one is, last, you've got to have that, you know, really sinski intention for law that, you know, and ask a lot for

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guidance as well ask a lot for guidance in how to seek that knowledge, right. Another thing that I that helped me was consulting automap, consulting scholars consulting,

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people have knowledge about where to go, you know, where can I study? What, what program? Should I follow? What books should I study, you need to you need to ask, you can't just try to work it out for yourself, right? Another thing, which is very important, because people always think, Oh, I want to go over there. And I want to go over there to study, right? What you need to understand is to make use of whatever resources are available to you. Okay, so like, for example, myself, I taught, I attended, you know, local classes, local, local art for years, right. But what happened was that in order to learn from island man who was specialists in their field, I knew I had to go online, I had

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to outsource that was the only way right. And for me, that ended up working out a lot better for me, because they had recorded live sessions. And I knew, for example, when I'm in Saudi, when I attended how hot the women will be sitting in another room, right? And also, the Arabic is very fast for me, okay, so, by me attending, you know, recorded live lessons, I was able to transcribe the words, word by word, I could, I could actually translate it all, you know, into, you know, and have the whole lesson, you know, get the whole lesson rather than just getting some of the Nissen right. So that's one thing. So make use of whatever is available to you. And now with internet a lot of advice you

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really have, honestly, you could say the world is your oyster right now, like, you know, you really can seek knowledge. But if you want the knowledge, I'll advise you, if you get Arabic, I'm telling you, like I said, it is truly the beef that it is the it is the key to to in, in general, you don't even have to if you've got Arabic, you can even learn knowledge without even paying a cent.

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But you have to be prepared. What absolutely right. Absolutely right. To roads. Yeah, the woman wants to think. And by the way, regardless of your age, don't worry about the age.

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There was a lesson for you today.

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So the most important thing is what you need to do is do I want to learn how to me and my family. Or I want to take this as my path moving, I want to specialize in this. Because the world is different. The beginning is the same, but then it will end and this is the first thing I was asked when I went to study in gender. The first time I met so many issue male and female. They said what do you what do you want to you want to specialize in it? I said I'd rather be specialized because 100 I already studied, but I want to learn to

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give what Allah give me in a simple way to the sisters I the guy to me is a big one. That's why I try to stay away from but this is actually where they asked me what I study. You want to take the value path or this specialized that start with exactly and some of you were asking where do we start to I'm sure there's You can also maybe share some Institute's but I can tell you about our institute general Institute offering you our We are an academy taught by woman nine out of taking three easy recorded classes if you cannot attend on online live, it is recorded available all the time just to start and then you

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Exactly get a regular as one of my only teacher for as a man, he used to say all the time to me, you need regular diet of knowledge, a regular, and he used the word diet because he meant beneficial knowledge you need to be every week minimum, depends again on your life. But I will say minimum three to four hours a week that you are in a class and don't listen to the class in a casual way, like you are, you know, like you're in the kitchen and preparing things you need to sit down, recorded, go back to it. And you need to write notes. And row, go back to your notes that are specially the name of Allah, you have to read, and you have to memorize, and you have to write, and

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you have to review.

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And again, don't worry about the time whatever it will take. It will, it will take there is a question.

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And that's probably you can answer it better than I am your own drum ID.

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Because it's about children. So

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any advice on how to keep kids engaged and how to teach them, as well as keep them interested in the content.

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The main thing is, you've got to make it fun. With kids, you've got to make it fun. Like one of the things I did learn Melo reward the the system is to teach the children in general Hoda

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when she used to teach them the Quran, she didn't just have them sitting down crossing their legs and arms, you know, like she'd have them for example, putting their you know, hands on each other's shoulders and saying, Well, how when lady that said, Yeah, you know.

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So she would get them moving. And like when I taught my kids got on, for example, I had them, they'd sit on the floor playing with toys, and I just be reciting the Quran that listening to it, and the kids are taking it in. Okay, so you've got to take into consideration that the child that like to play, you can't make them just sit there with it. I don't know how they in some countries make them sit there with their arms folded, and my kids would never have done that. When I used to teach my twins, I'll tell you why twins were the biggest challenge. But I'll be honest, what I do is, when I go to bed at night, I chose the lights because twins, you can't get them to settle down, right. So

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turn off the bed at night, turn off the light at night, and they've been there before. And then I'd say to Sora about 10 times the biggest thing to it and the panel off after about three days or something you asked them that they already start memorizing it. So that's that's sort of the tricks I had to kind of use to get my kids and then when you're teaching them the meanings of the as you're gonna make it exciting, you've got to really animate the

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you got to really get to do some actions. And you know, like Janna, you know, like that. And you're gonna kind of animate the idea to make them engaged.

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Exactly. The children are depends on their age. So number one, exactly, you have to make it exactly animated. Number two, all that and I teach a class for the youth, which is 10 to 15 Islamic models, which is something really we need to re emphasize and re implant in the youth. And I have the boys separate and the goals separate this class Apollo, the first class was completely full within less than two weeks. Now if you're gonna just read for them, Allah and Oliver Swati site or salon, you will lose them within five minutes.

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Honestly, honestly, I thought it was to the boys, especially the boys, I was like, No, everybody's going to start looking at their phones. So you have to get engaged. I'll give you an example happened last week. I want to give them what the homework, it's a reflection what we study is tell me how you practice it in the week. So two of them, I asked them and they said we missed it. We're gonna have to attend last week. So I said okay, how many of you play soccer? And Haha, who doesn't play soccer you and I said when does the referee ask the player actually physically leave the field. They said when there is too little cord. There is a one red card to yellow cards, usually a red card

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follow or there is a red card and I said when does the yellow card comes in? If they do something, not what it should be. So I said this is this class that is two yellow cards. Two times you can attend them no matter this class anymore. You must behave in this class with everyone else, then you you're not there. I can't tell you their response. The point I'm trying to make is you have to give examples. A lot taught us in the Quran. Baba Allahu masala how many times young German now there is almost parables. So for the older you have to know their mentality. You have to know what is important for them. The Xbox and the games you better learn all that

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Sticking with them in a different language, but also before you teach any child, young

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youth, make this draw your line. I always say this even when I teach women, but in general, you're making me speak, which pleases you.

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Jenna Lockwood Baraka in what you are saying, and I will add this, the result is not in your hand, not in my hand, the result and the handle for las pantalla he would ask me, what did you do, he will not ask me what's happened at the end. So just put the effort. Again, the examples younger animate, make it fun, our screen, make Sonic studies fun demick it's all halmahera and we're gonna go to Django

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and use bribery, use bribery, there's nothing wrong.

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You do, you could earn like, and it was a really good work ethic, like your work, then you get rewarded, right? That's also when they're young, like you work, then you get what you want. So you do some good on not not too much. But you know, do some crime, then you get to go and play station, you know, you get to do your iPad, whatever. And so they learn the principle and that's what we you know, when you think of it, that's what we do as Muslims, we work out in this dunya you know, shall not be in the lead to get the reward in the effort. So kids do eventually transfer that over, you know, they when they're small, they made something tangible. You can't just tell them it inshallah

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gonna go, Jonathan, I don't really

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This question comes up, and to me was a woman or a university offer to non Saudi girls for STEM education without our home to my knowledge system? I left and I came back in 2017. The answer is no. I don't know if you know anything the new Yama gerada gene. Okay, so I don't know cuz Saudis change a lot with their maharam rules. So I'm not sure but all I can tell you is I have only really rarely I'm talking extremely rarely come across anyone who's non Saudi, female to study a normal Cora and even males, I'll tell you something in as far as Australia has concerned.

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We have not known anyone in the last 30 years actually to be accepted from Australia, male or female, into more fora even though the name just comes out. But we don't get the people don't go even my son was one of them. I'm talking from experience. My son actually was on that list. But nothing ever came out of it. No one from here ever went to almost four. So it might be different in us, you might have a co coach.

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Yeah. I have a personal friend who she went with her husband, she had children. And because she was with her husband, but they lived in Makkah, they should actually study the normal part. But I'll tell you what, and

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correct me if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter the name doesn't matter. It's so true.

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In fact, and if you ask me and you said it to the real world you get it is when you are with the teachers is not in the institute's itself is when you are with the teachers are around them with them. And the beauty of Saudi engender, we talked about this last night? youngevity is there's a lot of women scholars, they are impeccable, I never thought I will meet people like this till I went to study. So don't worry about the names. Don't worry about the names. What you were at what you worry about that that was pantalla opens it up to you. And you're not alone. You're lucky Teach me let you choose for you. Next interesting word you want to download? This is what the obstacles shavon put,

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how's it

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going? Don't worry about that. The books are the same, the knowledge is the same what he wants from you and the class again, your sincere you really want to learn that. We have four more minutes. Do you want to say anything? We're on July? Look, I'll just

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yeah, I'll just quickly say one thing. Exactly what you just said. Something I learned from Sue Cass from Google name right? Some advice about that, right? Every time a lot opens a path for him. He took it in other words, don't look down on whatever path Allah opens for you. You know like I'll be honest when I first got told you know come and study at the Quran school I'm going to be I'm ashamed to say it but I looked down that I thought what do you mean Joe Buddha compared to normal Cora? I said that to myself. But Subhanallah I did not realize what Allah was giving me right. Because if I had if I said to myself now if I had to be enrolled in omokoroa from the beginning, maybe I would

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never have gone on to you know, memorize Quran or teach my kids the Quran. Right? And this reminds me of something that mmm evil evil fame recognizes that Allah Allahu Allah didn't ban kick Nazi right that a lot does not close a door for his soul.

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From his kick man from his wisdom Illa Fattah her level bhendi rock matiee Okay, except that he opens two doors from his rock Ma, you know, as panelists, this is how I feel, you know, even though I was very upset not to go to Cora. But now I look what Allah gave me it's even he showed me better than if I had just done you know so.

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So don't look down on what Allah gives you, whatever opens for you make that sincere to be determined, and keep going in that direction. And sha Allah will open up for you being in the last one before because we have to respect the time of our viewers.

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And I'm gonna re stress summarize, the first thing you want is you have to want it I always, I don't know when did I start that this area always comes to my mind. Men are the era wasana hassayampa woman felt like to kind of say warmish quarter

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one, this is this is sort of the slot. So every once in a while he said I moved

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to our hero. Absolutely. Sam acknowledge we said this one sericata so remember when you have to wanted, she didn't say how? He says you want wasana hassayampa you put the effort in will open the doors don't say how can I get into the teachers of Saudi when I went to Saudi I never even thought there is a woman who can teach. Right? And I went to South Africa and I met the speaker. Absolutely. Your neighbors you went to Egypt, they will tell you the same they're everywhere. And I'm sure in Malaysia these days, I'm sure so the point you want it you have to Salah why use the word soft, hard work, hard work is not going to come and you're listening to a lecture and we're all the time on

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your phone. It doesn't come this way hours and hours and continuous challenges. Well no more than that. I love that part. When you are believing what is delivered in this context, you will know Allah will never let you down. You will know Allah will give it back to whether or whether an accurate weather in both fall Yeah, you can kind of sell your home much cooler those who fulfill these three criterias their efforts will be rewarded. Allah said how would a lot rewards me I cannot even think of it. Make this make this intention. Look around you ask a lot to give it to you in your tahajjud Don't worry which part which is cool. He will give you the best one for you. Your ASEAN

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the last word is for you

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to ask a lot of Allah to bless your institute and all the efforts are doing you know shout out high fat Dr. White you know that thought I hate that you know she's trying to bring that into the homes and the heart of of you know women around the world may Allah bless her efforts and raise her in levels your blood amin And may I ask a lot of data to let us meet with each other in person. And

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all of us who attended today ask a lot of data to unite us all in general for those that are your enemy.

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And everyone we have people from all over the world. The last one is from Kuala Lumpur May Allah gathers us as he gathered us here

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in Jamaica for domes Allah sudomotor Carberry and inshallah This is the last, not the last time I can tell you for sure.

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Again, inshallah, with our little sisters and our server

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tomorrow from all of us, does that come from? Santa Monica rahmatullah wa barakato Subhana calahonda. Shadow Allah, Allah, Allah and Allah to Buddha, salam, O Allah say, Mohammed. He was a bit of steam and kathira Desert Hello