Why Joshal Evans Chose Islam
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Hi, this is Joshua Evans, former Christian youth minister back on the deen show to tell you my story about how I came to Islam. Coming up next. You don't want to miss it. Stay tuned.
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Thank you for coming out again. You've been with us before on a few 10. We're glad that you're back with us again. And we're excited. We want to hear your story. Some of many of the viewers that tune in regularly to the deen show they've gotten heard, but many have. So we're gonna kind of go back and try to help bring this story to the rest of the world. And we're going to try and let even more people benefit. Really quickly. You were former Christian youth minister. Yes. And you grew up going to church, every
day, every other day. Because you from what we were told before you actually live next to a church. Yeah, lift a couple houses down from our houses down. So let's start from there. Tell us real briefly, for the people that don't know most of our viewers know who you are. But for those that don't tell us a little bit yourself. And let's go on into your story and how you came to this beautiful way of life. As long as they say about beginnings. Let's begin there. I was born and raised in Greenville, South Carolina in a very,
very traditional Methodist, Christian, Southern, conservative home.
I was raised by my grandparents, my mother had stepped out. And you know, my dad was working two jobs. So he was not home a lot. So I spent a lot of time with my retired grandparents.
And they were very old fashioned. They say, you know, old fashioned in the sense to give
you some sense of how old fashioned they were, you know, like, girls were no, no, in my house. You know, like, if I wanted to invite a girl over, it wasn't just, you know, just invite a girl over bring into my room. Not my grandmother had to know in advance, you know, appointment had to be made.
We had to she had to meet her first then we had to sit in the formal living room, you know, the living room with all the nice stuff, you don't go unless you have company over. And she would either sit in the room and listen to the conversation or she would sit in the next room and the dining room or the TV and stuff was and with the door open and listen, you know, there was no girls in my room that was like out. So they were very, very traditional, very old fashioned, very conservative,
Southern Methodist family. And they started taking me to church at a very young age. You know, this was something that was always a part of my house. You know, the reading the Bible was always a part of my life. Praying before we ate for my grandmother prayed before we went to sleep, you know, every time the wind blew my grandmother pray, you know, and this is something I grew up hearing all the time. And I went to church every Sunday, and I went to Sunday school, you know, my grandmother dropped me off at Sunday school and go do their thing and come out. And when I got older, I started attending the regular services. And then I would say at about the age of 14 1314 getting close to 15
I started attending the Saturday night, Youth Services at the gym, at our church, you know, and it wasn't like regular church. It wasn't formal, you know, it was more like we win and we played games and you know, there was that it was fun interaction. It was all teenagers. It was pizza, you know, sodas, you know, all this fun stuff. And at the end, they used the youth pastor, the youth minister would give you know, like a 30 minute sermon or 30 minute lecture, you know about how we need to draw closer to God, you know, something along that nature.
And just so happened that the youth pastor at the time
lived catty corner to me live, you know, across the street, one house up from me and we became friends, you know,
Cuz we used to walk in, he used to walk to church, I used to walk the church. So we would see each other, meet each other. And then in my senior year in high school, when I was 15, he used to give me a ride to school, this is before I had my own my license, and he had his license, he was a senior. So he used to give me a ride to school. And then after he graduated high school, he started going to Bob Jones University, which was, and is one of the most conservative, rigorous Bible training colleges in the country. And he was studying textual criticism, which is a field where you go into the Bible, and derived from the original Hebrew and Greek, you know, the you find out which one of
all these hundreds and 1000s of fragments of pages of the Bible of pages of books of pieces of books of this, then you know, that you go through in textual critic goes through and deciphers which one of these are the oldest, you know, by studying the, you know, the where they came from, and studying the ancient manuscripts and carbon dating all this other stuff, but then they use the text to also try to derive, which is the original, because, you know, just because a document is older, does not mean it's necessarily the original document, you know, because the oldest document could have been copied from a non existent document that had errors. And it could have been a copy of a copy of a
copy of a copy of a copy. But a newer manuscript could have been copied once from an original, therefore, that would make that manuscript more original than the older manuscript. So this is something this is the challenge that a textual critic has to come up with, and this a lot of scrutiny because there's no real science behind it, you know, it's a lot of, of you, you know, going through and looking these things with your own hands.
as I get to know him and befriend him, I began to emulate him, you know, I began to, as he was studying, I was studying, you know, I was trying to learn along with him, because, and I became more involved in the church and I began to realize that I wanted to, you know, dedicate my life to the, to this to this cause I want to dedicate my life to Christianity, this is where I fit in, this was my grew up believing this is my niche, you know, I wasn't big into the party isn't all you know, at this age, I was not, you know, I was my great grandparents were not, not having that my grandfather, basically, my grandfather was not he was a very, you know, firm, Stern, you know, like, very strong
figure in my family, he was not having it. So I fell into this lifestyle was going to these different things on Wednesday nights, Thursday nights, you know, there will be things going on, like, Crusade for Christ and all this stuff. I, you know, I was attending everything, I could get my hands on reading this, that and the other, you know, reading things by by arm, from the moody Institute, all these different things. So I decided,
in my freshman year of high school, I decided that I wanted to go to Bob Jones University. And there was a very long waiting list. So I had already enrolled. Now how old were you at this point, 15 1515, at this time, going on 16.
So I wanted to go to Bob Jones, and emulate my friend.
As I started studying more with him and started learning a little bit Hebrew, a little bit of Greek started reading the Bible for myself, me and him both decided, we're going to start from the beginning of the Bible, and we're going to read it from beginning to end, doing a study beginning to end, you know, like, not over a period of year but as quickly as we can beginning the beginning in and I did this, I would say probably about two times.
The second time around, the first time, I started noticing things that did not really sit right with me, but because it was such a large book. And I figured, you know, maybe I just missed some things along the way. The second, the third time, the fourth time, is when I really started to pick up there's something wrong here. You know, because, number one, the Bible taught that
Noah was an alcoholic, you know. And, to me, it didn't fit right, you know, because I have seen family members, family members that had dealt with alcoholism, and an alcoholic has trouble holding down a job at a fast food restaurant, you know, doing simple tasks that involve logical thinking. So if Noah was just to point out Noah would be one of God's messengers. Yes, Noah is one of the very earliest messengers. Speaking of in the Bible, he was a very, very early messenger, just talking about some ordinary man. No, no, we're talking about God's Prophet, and Noah was actually the one. God commanded to build the ark, to save humanity when he destroyed the world with a flood. So Noah
was given the task of saving this world with an ark by building a huge Ark all by himself. And I'm thinking to myself, how does an alcoholic accomplish this? Number one, how does he know that it was God speaking to him if he was drunk? Now, what does the Bible actually say about him drinking, that he was a drunk or anyone be passed out in this drunken state? It refers to him No, it was a drunkard. This statement is in the Bible, it says, No, I was a drunkard. Okay. So this didn't make sense to me. How can no be a prophet of God? build an ark to save humanity is an alcoholic, you know, so
You know, I kind of let that roll off my back you you go a little farther than you reach like the story of life, you know, Abraham,
and lot, you know a lot was the one who was a southern Sodom and Gomorrah, you know the the ones, the cities that were destroyed because of their homosexuality. It is said that lot daughters got gotten drunk, basically doped him up and slept with him, and then bore children through this incest, you know, and again, this is supposed to be a prophet of God, then you get to the story of David. David is considered one of the greatest prophets of the Jews and Christians, David, the one who constructed
reconstructed the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and
you get to his story and his story in the Bible says that he saw a woman, Bathsheba
and she was you know, laying out sunbathing whatever and decided that he could not control his desires that he wanted her. So he took her slept with her, basically raped her, decided he wanted to keep her she was married. So in her husband was one of the generals in his army. So decided to wait I need to clean this up, was he sent a letter to his armies, because they were at war at that time.
send a letter to one it was to his generals, that when the battle gets fierce, leave Uriah this abandoned him let him fight on his own, so that he would be killed. And now he could have Bathsheba legally. So, and I'm thinking to myself, like, you know, like, this is stuff you you see on America's Most Wanted, you know, this is stuff you you, you you see on on FBI most wanted list. And just to note that many people don't read the Bible, so they don't see these stories, they usually go to church, and people will take certain verses, and recite certain verses, but you actually went deep into it. So you got to see the whole picture now. Yeah, I got to see the whole picture. You
know, and all of these things, did not sit right with me, you know, because I said to myself, that these are supposed to be prophets, you know, these are supposed to be the people who are supposed to guide me to the right, character, you know, these are supposed to be people that for the Jews, because you know, as a Christian, I believe that the Old Testament was for the Jews, it was not for Christians, it was for Jews, but this was supposed to be the guiding post for the Jews. But these people were worse than then people I've known that have spent their whole life in prison. These are people that not only would I not want to follow them, if I saw them on the street, I would turn and
run the other way, and go probably call 901 America's Most Wanted, because they gotta be on somebody's list. So that was the first thing that they said to me, something has to be wrong. Either the stories are wrong, or these people can't be prophets. I mean, this is just can't be. So finally, you know, you get to the New Testament, or you know that you get some of the books going back, you get some to some of the books like the book of Ruth, the book of Ruth does not even the word God isn't even in it. It's a story about two people who fall in love. It has no life, you read it as you think you're reading a romance novel, there's nothing about God in His books in the Bible, he has a
book in the Bible, the word God is not even in it. God is not even referred to in the book.
And then there's other statements which I would not repeat, that are pornographic in the Bible, you know, that speak about, you know,
David sleeping with this woman, and then spilling the beans, I mean, it's just, these are things I would not read to my children. So
I got to the New Testament and the New Testament, you're like, Ah, you know, there's a little breath of fresh air. You know, can you make it through Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john. But then as I started reading Matthew, Mark, Luke and john, I started noticing something that seemed weird was that, okay? All these guys are saying the same thing, in a sense, but they're repeating themselves, like,
like Matthew and Luke, are repeating the exact same things that are that are in Mark. So it looks like they're copying from Mark. And then you get to john, and john is a whole nother story.
So I'm saying that all these four guys saw the same person saw the same events, but told them all in four different ways, you know, like this doesn't like which one is the you know, the correct story? Things that if you were in a court of law, it wouldn't hold up? No. Throw it out. Yeah, no, not only that. But when I started studying the Bible, I wanted to know who wrote these books, you know, so I started researching the author. And when you go through the Old Testament, 80% of it, the author is unknown. It's speculated, they speculate, who wrote it. Like in the book of Deuteronomy, they say Moses wrote it.
Which doesn't make sense, because at the end, it says, Moses died. So did Moses, like write his own obituary? You know, like, all of these things did not make sense to me. So you get through the New Testament. Okay, it made some sense to me as a Christian because I believed all the doctrine of Christianity.
And Jesus talking about God, you know, worshiping God, that you know, servitude and honor and respect should be given to God alone. He never accepted it for himself. He would always try to put that back on God, you know, even when they came in
Master, you know, he would say, Why don't cause me good, there's no good. But when that's gone, and then Jesus taught that, you know, he came to fulfill the law.
And the law is the law of Moses. He said, I have come to fulfill the law of Moses, he was a Jew, come to Jews, because even himself was asked why he didn't preach to the Gentiles. And he was told that he told them, why should I cast my pro this wine, I was not sent, but to the lost sheep of the children of Israel.
So these things that make sense to me
why Jesus was told that I was told that he was the salvation of all mankind, but out of his own mouth, he's saying that he was sent, but to the Jews, and that he was
the ones that have lost his job either come to fulfill the law of Moses. So you get past the New Testament. And then you get to the writings of Paul.
And the writings of Paul go from like, centerfield to way out of the ballpark somewhere. Because now Paul, all of a sudden introduces the creed. If you look at it, you know, from beginning to end, without just taking what the preacher says, and listening to all these things that you've done differently. If you really look at it. It goes from Jesus saying one thing to pause and come and saying, okay, Jesus died for you, since you know that you were born into sin. Because of Adam's, you know, transgressions, you're born in sin. you inherited this in nature. Now, because of the sin nature, you need a redemption. Jesus had to come and sacrifice himself in order to free you from the
sin nature. And I'm thinking to myself, I haven't read this, you know, like, Where did Paul get this from? You know, because Jesus didn't say this. He didn't preach this. He didn't teach this. What about some people who say now that the Jews would actually sacrifice animals? In the Old Testament? They take examples from this. Okay, they did, and they still do. Yeah. And Muslims still do? Yeah. Because this is the God's ways of doing things don't change. Yes. You know, I mean, he does not change his mind. God is not one way today, and then wakes up and decides, you know, what, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it this way, today, you know, we're gonna revamp this thing, we're gonna re
scheme, this whole, this whole salvation thing. You know, we're gonna re scheme and we're just gonna throw a whole monkey wrench in the system. Or better yet, I'm gonna wait 1000s of years, and let all these other people die, and then all of a sudden bring Jesus to say, Okay, and then this is how you get salvation is through Jesus. I'm sorry for all you other people, you know, that doesn't make sense, a god. You know, it sounds like God would be playing with humanity, which gods are not created for this purpose, you know, God's ways don't change. So you started to see these things and questions, and I started to see them and question them. And when I would take them to the pastors,
they would tell me the same thing, I would hear the same thing over and over again, you know, they will put the hand on my shoulder, you know, brother, Joshua,
don't let a little bit of knowledge wreck your faith, is what they tell me. Don't let a little bit of knowledge wreck your faith, because the devil will give you 99% of the truth, to get you to believe 1% of the lie.
So you know, I tried to do that. And because I did not want to lose my faith in Christmas, all I had is all I knew. This is the way of my forefathers the way my family.
So I tried to go back into the Bible, and shove my mentality into trying to find a way to make this stuff fit. Make it make sense. Let me make this thing makes sense. You know, let me make this Trinity thing makes sense, because the Trinity. After reading the Bible, it just started not making sense, because there's no verses in the Bible, they speak of the Trinity. There's one that if you study the Bible was not original part of the Bible was put in, you know, later when the when the, the Rome, the Bible is put together in Rome. So I'm saying to myself at all this, how do I fix this? Because Jesus saying that, you know, the way to salvation, someone came and asked him, How do I get
eternal life? He said, Follow the commandments. He said, okay, I've done that. He said, Okay, then follow me. You know, sell everything you own and follow me. This was the way to salvation, follow the commandments. Paul gets in the way of salvation, believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for you sense. Something, thinking to myself, okay, if this was the way to salvation, why did Jesus not tell us this? Why did Jesus live his whole life? And then say, you know, what, if Paul had not come along, maybe they'll figure it out. I'm not going to tell them how to get salvation. I'm just going to let them try to deduce that are all these, you know, ambiguous statements I made to let them
figure it out. 1000s of years later, this does not make any sense doesn't make sense. I said, if God wants you to be a certain way, he were very clearly saying, as Jesus very clearly said, when he was asked, How can I get eternal life? I said to myself, and I told a pastor this, if the way the eternal life was believing in Jesus Christ died on the cross for my sins, he would have said it in, he would have clearly said it. And there is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus explicitly says that I'm coming to die for your sins, believe in my blood and my resurrection, and then you'll be saved. You got paradigm. Is there any explicit there's no explicit statement out of the mouth of Jesus
Christ, that has been verified by any Bible scholar? He said, I came to die for your sins. There's none
Abraham says anything there, there are some implicit, implicit verses that scholars have by a biblical scholars have deduced that this is what he meant. But if you wait those implicit verses with other explicit things that he said, a ways to get salvation, then then they automatically the light of what he really meant comes to view. Can you give us a couple examples when we take this break and come right back on the dean show?
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First of all, thank you for asked me about my religion. That's what we always say, we have the truth and we have the proof. The truth is, I can't lie or I go to hell. That's in my religion. The other thing is, we have the evidence Anyway, what is the Quran tell us about Jesus, we believe in a man by the name of Isa. Now, if you call him Jesus, that's up to you. But we know his name is Larissa. And he was a miracle birth. His mother was named Miriam, we have a chapter of the Quran named after chapter 19. And his miracle birth, there was no human intervention here, there was no man there was nobody who fertilized any egg in implanted in her like they do in modern days or anything like that.
She had a miracle birth, and it was by the will of God, Almighty Allah willed it to be done. He says goon fire can be and it is, and that's how Jesus came about. But does that mean he's God? Well, how is it that we got Adam in the first place? If he was anything less than a miracle? I'd like to know because he has no father or mother.
Adam was created from dirt, and allow blue life into him. And then let's take the example of Eve. He was taken from a bone. from Adam, we have this in our Koran. By the way, if you didn't know that, you need to know that we know Eve she is created from Adam.
And from these two, Allah says, The brought forth many people, many tribes, many nations, Allah brought forth on the earth. And he made us different from each other, that we recognize each other. But at the same time we look at even we say, we would not worship her, even though she was born and created without any mother.
We don't worship Adam, we don't worship Eve. So why should we worship Jesus? Just because he didn't have a father.
There's another point too, is let us look to Jesus and think, peace be upon him. Did he eat food?
Does God have to eat? Did Jesus sleep?
Does God have to sleep?
Allah doesn't sleep. He says in the Quran. Allahu La Ilaha Illa who Ohio Lata Hulu hoops and Paula now that he is allowed beside him. There's none other to worship, the all living he's always living. He's never been created. He didn't just start up one day. No, he's always living and always self subsisting. He doesn't need anything. He's not needy at all. And then it says, he doesn't send it to him, doesn't grow weary.
And he doesn't know he doesn't sleep. God doesn't get tired. He doesn't go into that Twilight Zone.
And he doesn't sleep cuz he's a law. He's not like a human. So get that in your mind. But now what about eating if you eat, don't check to go to the bathroom. And you want to say that God went to the bathroom, I will do blood stuff for a while. This is too much for the Muslim mind to even contemplate that you would put God in the creation. Although we immediately recognize from the Quran itself that Jesus fulfilled scripture, he fulfilled prophecy. He came to fulfill prophecy that he would be the master
I uh, that he would be the miracle birth born of a virgin. And he was. And when he came, he brought a mighty message and the message was worship God, without partners to know Israel, the Lord your God is One Lord. And you have to love him and worship Him with all your heart, all your mind and all your strength. That's in the book of Mark chapter 12, verse 29, very clear. And that's the message of Jesus, not worshipping Him, but worshiping the one he worshipped. Who did Jesus worship when he prayed? And he said, and you pray, who to the one above? And how do you pray, God Your will be done on earth as is in heaven. And when he was in the trials in the fitna that was coming about in get
70. And he prayed, and he was asking God let this cup pass for me. But even so your will be done, Who's he talking to himself, and on the cross, according to the people that have him on the cross, the one on the cross is saying, Oh, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me. And we wouldn't accept this, we won't accept that because no prophet would say, God was forsaken them. It's the devil who has forsaken
not in the other prophets of God, they were always in the best care of Almighty God. And this is why Muslims say what we do, we believe that this is true that he is a mighty Prophet, he is a miracle birth, he is the Messiah. He's Jesus, or in Arabic, he's arisa. This is our belief. If you want to know more about it, though, go to the website for this purpose, go to Bible, Islam, Bible islam.com, check it out for yourself, and see what you think. And send us more emails like this, or call us during our live shows. It's returning back to the program in progress. You're watching that beam show right here.
Back to the show, studio, former Christian youth minister, we're trying to have him share his story with us. And we left off with a couple of examples that you're going to give us explicit. And, implicit, implicit, go ahead. Now implicitly stated in for those who you know, so I can break it out implicitly means that he'd said something that can be reduced or deducted that he meant this, like he didn't explicitly say, like, if I explicitly say that I am a Muslim, that's explicit, or if you look at how I'm dressed, that's an implicit statement that I'm a Muslim is something you can deduce. Like, there's implicit statements that are made in the New Testament, like, you know,
where he says that
I came to do my father's work, and my father works through me, and he is in me, and I am in him, you know, things like like this are implicit statements, that that lead one to believe, or if you just take them all by themselves, pull them out, you know, and look at them just all by themselves. And they would very much say to you, that Jesus saying I am a god of the same substance substance. And this was the very argument that that went down at the Council of Nicea and 325 ad, when the the creed was trying to be evolved, because this was the very argument that they came up with what is Jesus what was his substance was he of the same substance as God, always he have a similar
substance, you know, you had the alexandrian creed and you had the arion Creed. And this is you know, the exact exact alexandrian Creed, it eventually went out because of verses and they debated these very verses, they mean you are debating are talking about now. But then you go to explicit statements of Jesus, like, you know, why they'll call me good, for there's nothing good, but when that is God, or his explicit statement, when he was asked, How do I get eternal life? How do I go to heaven? Follow the commandments. Go to the commandment, what commandments was he speaking of? He was a Jew. So he was speaking of the commandment of Moses, what was the first commandment? Thou shall
have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not worship anything in the heavens in the earth, or any graven images. You should honor your mother, father and mother, love your neighbor as you love yourself. You know, and even Jesus was asked, What is the greatest commandment, because the disciples were arguing about which commandment was greater. So they asked him, he did not even say the 10 commandments. He said that the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God. He didn't say to love me, your God. He said, The Lord, that love the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your might, with all your strength, and love your neighbor, as you love yourself, the other 10
the rest of them hang on these. So these, if you weigh these implicit statements, with these explicit statements, then they make more sense. God was he was saying that I am in the Father of the Father, that we have the same cause. I am here on behalf of God, I am God's delegate on Earth. I am the Word of God made flesh as as in john one in one, that in the beginning was the Word the Word was with God, the Word of God and the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us. You know, so there's explicit and implicit things, that that so these things weighed on me very heavily. You know, and I, I went to the past and I told them,
okay, so, tell me, how can I know Jesus was God or Jesus was only begun. God only began from Hebrew meaning that only God can be attributed to his existence. You know, he has his
his lineage is from God.
So I went and asked, How could I know? Tell me how you how I know Jesus is the only begotten of God, how is how does he fit into this Trinity? Show me, show me some substance Give me something, because I was looking, I really wanted to believe, but I was not a full, you know, I was not, you know, as they say, I was not raised food, you know, I, my grandparents raised me no fool, show me something. And they, you know, and they started using, I said, I don't want to see all these ambiguous verses about it. Give me some logical example. And then, you know, well, he was born of a virgin. The Virgin Mary, this was his miracle that he was his father lineage, because that's how the, you know,
trace through the father into God. I said, Okay, if that is the criterion to be the Son of God, or the only begotten Son of God, does not Adam, hold that title, more, being the god fashion, but his own hand out of nothing?
No father, no mother, nothing took some dirt molded, said D. And as a man. And then his wife pulled out a rib created another one. So they don't, don't they have the more rights.
So I said, there's not an Adam have more right to be the only begotten of God being that he was created without a father and a mother. You know, that's when there was no more arguing, you know, they would just tell me, you know, you you have let the devil deceive you, you know, they I really even started becoming more of an out cast. So now that you start questioning, and I think this discourages people from starting to raise questions, people who have doubts, and that kind of keeps them locked up in a closet because they're scared to be labeled an outcast, scared to be, yeah, because you start being looked at as the one who questions his faith, because in Christianity, this
doubting the Holy Ghost is what they call it, doubting the Holy Ghost. You know, doubting these things that you believe through blind faith is a is considered
a unpardonable sin. blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is considered an unpardonable sin. And so I made that Cardinal mistake of questioning, questioning those things, which just you just believe, shouldn't shouldn't want as to make sure that look what I'm buying. What I'm what I'm getting into is actually from God is actually the correct way. And that's all you were trying to do. It's logical and everything you do, you wouldn't buy a car without asked how much it costs. Somebody wouldn't just tell you just sign this contract will give you the car, you know, how much does it cost for how long? How much do I have to pay a month? I mean, you're going to ask these things. Exactly. So when
it comes to my afterlife, the life that I have to live forever, I want to know that I'm doing the right thing, which is either paradise or Hellfire, paradise, heaven or hell, you know, there's no, there's no two ways about it. In Christianity. Same way, there's no two ways about it. Judaism, there's no two ways about it, you go one to the other. So you want to know that the place that you're choosing to go is going to be the right place? Yes. And the only thing that I had to go on was the Bible. This was this was it? Which things that weren't making sense at all? They weren't they didn't. They made no sense. We're gonna we're going to have to Joshua, have you back on for a
part two to this? Tell us real briefly, that something in closing, so you know, what, what next step Did you take in your journey, and then we'll continue on to bring you on next time, where you can go further into the story, but what what was the, the summary of all this? After all this, you know, I finally talked to one pastor or one Bible scholar who had a little bit of, you know, a little bit of knowledge, and he was willing to say the truth. When I went to him about all these things and all these problems in the Bible, you know, he told me, he said, you know, by the Joshua, maybe the people who copied the copy of the copy just made a mistake, you know, which basically wrecked my
faith in Christian, I don't think he would very much like that I attribute him to wrecking my faith in Christianity. But he did. And I left Christianity altogether, because I knew that there was one God, I knew that he had a purpose for creating this world. And we had a purpose for placing me in this world and every other person had a purpose. And I wanted to find out what that purpose was. So I began my search. And that led you to Islam, which means submitting to the will of the one true God. Okay. Well, thank you for coming on. So stay tuned next week when we have Joshua Evans, back again. We're going to go into Part Two on why he accepted Islam, his beautiful way of life, which is
practiced by over 1.5 million people, a billion people in the world. And we'll see you again. God willing on the deen show, Salaam Alaikum. Peace be unto you.