What Listening to Sam Smith & Cardi B will do to you
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(Dr. Leonard Sax EXPOSES The Truth)
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You won't realize it that's the other thing that studies show you ask the kids do you think that the songs are changing you? They say, Oh, it's totally ridiculous. It's the song I'm not gonna go out and do that stuff. The kids have no awareness that yes how you choose to entertain yourself is changing who you are. These songs are activating like, these demons. By listening to Drake, and Bruno Mars, it's going to change you want to be that girl anymore. Don't allow your children to watch the Disney Channel Nickelodeon or Nick Jr. Everyone's worked up over Andrew Tate Why is nobody going after Bruno Mars for exploiting women like this. That's a fair question. Inshallah. Inshallah
God will greetings of peace so I'm gonna come Welcome to the show. My next guest Dr. Leonard Sachs, MD PhD is an American psychologist and a practicing family physician and the author of why gender matters boys adrift girls on the edge and the New York Times best selling author collapse a parenting he's also has some things to say about listening to Drake Lady Gaga, Cardi B and the like, why I didn't want her to do this song shaky or like any Jo song because
if I like these songs are activating like these demons you know I'm saying like
I don't want to be that girl anymore.
Like I just want to be a mother
like
I don't want to be that old party anymore. I left that lifestyle Hello Tom go bro like I just I don't want to be that anymore and the dangerous effects of it. Without further ado, let's bring out a special guest Dr. Leonard Sachs.
Far final messengers Muhammad peace be upon him. This is our religion Islam Miss Love this sister dijo.
How much respect I have for the faith of Islam Show. Welcome to the deen show. The Deen show
how are you doing? I'm okay. How are you? Good. Good. Thank you. Good to have you on the program.
Thanks for inviting me. So me and you go way back. You probably don't know that. But I read one of your books long time ago. And I was really impressed. I believe it was girls on the edge. And then recently, I had one of my students my jujitsu students. Dr. Joe, he'll be really excited. I got you on the program. He said, man, you gotta get this guy on the show. Here we go.
On the deen show cold and wet here in Philadelphia. But otherwise we're doing good. Great, great. Let's get right into the topic here. I got a lot of things I want to cover with you. Let's get right into this modern songs. You call it sex for money, you know in the dangerous effects, saying Cardi B and Meghan the stallion advise women to ask for a car while having sex with a man adding that a man paid my tuition and return for sec. So the question is what kind of mindset does this create for young impressionable minds?
Yeah, my first recommendation for parents is no earbuds no headsets, you need to know what your kids are listening to. And the most many of the most popular songs in the United States are really toxic. Cardi B Megan, the stallion the song you're referring to is Whap WAP. And I'm not going to say what that stands for because it's obscene and it is it is meant to be obscene.
And
it is a very degraded and
sad perspective on the human experience that that
you have sex not because it's part of a loving relationship, but because you want to you want this man to give you money for it.
Or Bruno Mars and him Grant and his Grammy Award winning song. That's why I like approaches a woman who doesn't know and again offers her money for sex, turn around and drop it for a player because that's what I like. And the Recording Academy said yes, that's the best song that's the best United States has to offer six Grammys for that song
Parents need to be aware of that American popular culture
not all of it, but much of it now is really toxic, and is
promoting a view of human experience and of man and woman that really is harmful and leads to anxiety, depression, disengagement. You know, I want to commend you, I mean, you're very brave to come out you know, you don't see a lot of people in your position, they kind of just go with the flow kind of scared to speak out against these things. But so I want to start off with commending you having the courage to come out and address these things. So that was my next question with Bruno Mars. You talk about him winning earning six Grammys for his song that's what I like. In which he offered a woman gold jewelry and shot a shopping spree in Paris if she just turn around and drop it
for a player because that's what I like so some asking you know what, what is this teaching men every one worked up you know, everyone's worked up over agitate? Why is nobody going after Buno bars for exploiting women like this?
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Yeah,
I certainly don't want to get into a comparison of Bruno Mars and Andrew Tate, that's just not that's not going to be productive for most, you know, we don't have we don't have to do that. But I'm just asking a fair question. I said, I'm just asking a fair question. The deeper question is,
what has happened to American culture? You know, I've lived in this country all my life. Born and raised in the United States. And a generation ago,
two men, Loggins and Messina had a huge hit in this country with their song, Danny song, even though we ain't got money. I'm so in love with you, honey, everything will bring change joy. And in the morning, when I rise, bring a tear of joy to my eyes and tell me everything's gonna be alright. Even though we ain't got money.
Love is more important than money. That's a very healthy message. I'm so in love with you, honey. That's that's, that's true. That's right. To teach kids that money's not the most important thing. Love and courtesy and respect to the most important thing and that was the message that was being sent by American popular culture generation ago.
Not anymore. The most popular shows the most popular Tik Tok videos, the most popular songs, many of them not all, but many of them communicate what I call in my book, The collapse of parenting, I call it the culture of disrespect. American popular culture now teaches kids that it's cute that it's funny that it's cool to be disrespectful, not only to adults and appearance, but to one another. You'll see American kids wearing T shirts with signs with signs that say things with slogans and say things like,
you look better on Facebook, or I'm not shy, I just don't like you. You know, and I was speaking to kids in Scotland and I was showing them some of these you don't see these outside the United States incidentally or Canada. You'll see them in United States and Canada, but nowhere else.
And I was showing these when I spoke to kids in Perth shared north of Edinburgh, Scotland. And I showed him some of these T shirts and the kids in Scotland were puzzled. They they wondered why would you go out in public with a T shirt that says to the whole world, I'm not shy. I just don't like you. The kids in Scotland that didn't seem financial seemed rude and childish. But American kids born and raised and immersed in this culture of disrespect. They think this is funny. You know, I'm a family doctor and my own practice. A mom of an eight year old and eight year old boy was saying to me, he's gotten so disrespectful and talking back. Where is he getting this? And I said to
you, you have the Disney Channel,
Nickelodeon Nick Jr. They said, Oh, sure. I said you need to turn it off. You need to prohibit Disney Nickelodeon Nick Jr. and three weeks later mom told me it stopped. Well, he was he was learning this from the Disney Channel. The Disney Channel is now full of shows that teach kids that it's cute and funny to be disrespectful to parents to talk with that what
What was that advice again that you gave simple advice? What was it? Don't allow your children to watch Disney Channel Nickelodeon or Nick Jr. Not all television is bad. You know, I don't have a problem with the cooking channel or National Geographic, but great advice Nicola Nickelodeon, Nick Jr. It's teaching this culture of disrespect. You got shows where the parents are clueless idiots. And the kids know better than the parents do. And this is supposed to be funny, like, Dog with a Blog where the dog is always smarter than the father who's supposedly a school psychologist but knows nothing about kids and and that he's the joke. He's the butt of the joke. And this is true of
a lot of American Television Modern Family. The straight dad is always an idiot. His three kids are always wiser than their dumb, bumbling dad, that the idiot father has become a mainstream image in American popular television. And it is not helpful. It's not even true. You know, in my own practice as a family doctor, most of the dads are not idiots and and bumbling fools, but American popular culture now is now portrays them that way.
We can talk about why that's so but the bottom line for parents is you need to be on your guard. American popular culture is now often a vector of this culture of disrespect. Let's get into one more very popular, very well known figure Drake in one of his popular songs, you quote this Jimmy Cook's the sexually explicit and profanity laced lyrics to graphic for ifs to print but the New York Times revealed praise reviewer praise Drake for his lyrical vividness. It's so sexually explicit. But the question is, what can listening to Drake from a psychological perspective teach you teach him respect teach you to respect women or just use women as objects? Yeah, we don't have to guess we
actually have studies where researchers have followed kids over time. And and so the way to conceptualize these studies, you've got two kids and 12 years of age, and they don't differ on how they view women or how they view sexuality. And then one kid is listening to Drake. And, and that kind of hip hop, and the other kid is listening to something else listening to, I don't know, Taylor Swift.
And the kid who's listening to Drake Three years later, is much more likely to think that sex is transactional, that you pay money for sex, that it's okay for a man to hit a woman.
What you listen to how you choose to entertain yourself, changes who you are, this is especially true for children and teenagers.
There's, I hope, people won't be offended if I quote a line from the Hebrew Bible, Proverbs chapter 23.
Above everything else, guard your heart. Because everything you do flows from it. Guard your heart, guard your heart, guard your heart, because everything you do flows from it. How you choose to entertain yourself, is changing who you are, if you choose to entertain yourself by listening to Drake, and Bruno Mars,
it's going to change you, you and you won't realize that that's the other thing that studies show you ask the kids, do you think that the songs are changing you? They say, Oh, it's totally ridiculous. It's the song I'm not gonna go out and do that stuff. The kids have no awareness that yes, how you choose to entertain yourself is changing who you are. So parents have to be in charge. And have to say, No, you're not allowed to listen to that stuff. I'm gonna know what you're listening to. And you're not allowed to listen to that. And parents have to be upfront because if your kid lives in the United States, it's not reasonable. It's not fair to expect your 12 year old
if the other kids are listening to Drake. What is your kid supposed to say? Well, I don't want to listen to that, because it offends my modesty. I mean, how was the kid even supposed to know the words to say and let alone say them? You have to allow that kid to say, hey, my parents have installed this filter on my phone, I'm not able to listen to that. Or if I do listen to it, they'll get an alarm on bark and and I lose my device. And I do encourage I'd strongly advise parents to install parental monitoring software on any device that has internet access to limit what your kids are listening to warn your kids look. Yeah, you I'm sure you can get around it, but I don't know
what you're doing because device is going to show me you're not allowed to listen to that stuff because it's bad. Parents need to have the confidence to
limit govern and guide with our kids are doing. And they need to understand that the culture has become very toxic.
It's not the culture of 20 years ago or 50 years ago, it's a toxic culture. And that means parents got to do more than our parents did. Well, you mentioned the heart, it reminded me of a statement from
Prophet Muhammad peace, be upon him, who mentioned something in a similar effect about the heart guarding the heart, he said, There was a morsel of flesh in the body, meaning the heart, if it's sound, the whole body will be sound. So this is this was so refreshing to hear a physician to go into something like this of the heart. And, you know, if more people would gravitate towards this, this is something that can help to alleviate a lot of these ills that are happening, no one's connecting it to the Drake's to the cardi B's. But now we have good enough evidence, you quote that the kind of music, kids I mean, obviously, even adults listen to influence their beliefs, attitudes,
and behavior, and also your quota. In a long cohort study, researchers found that teens who listen to music with degrading sexual content are more likely to engage in sexual risky behaviors. And you just love it and elaborated on this, you know, this is this is so, so profound, and many people are not they're naive, and not making these connections. So there's handing over the iPhone, you know, and says, you know, buying, you know, buying these kids, for the kids, but, you know, the average doctor, you know, psychologist is not making this connection, they're getting to hear it for the first time here. And for some people, like, wow, it's just, you know, it's an aha moment.
So, well, it takes courage, because when you, you definitely got it definitely gonna limit what they do, they may very well say none other parents do that. And that may well be the case. But again, you have to have the courage as a parent to say, I'm not their dad, I'm your dad. And
that means it's my responsibility, to limit govern and guide what you're what you're experiencing.
And, again, a major objective of my book, The collapse of parenting is to empower parents to give parents that confidence, to stand up and do the right thing.
And the original title of that book, the top of the book I sent to the publisher was the collapse of American parenting. And the subtitle was when most kids will not be better off raised outside fourth America. And again, I've spoken for many
Muslim communities across North America. And many of those parents are immigrants, and were not born in this country. And they're struggling with the defiance and disrespect that they encounter. I spoke with the Islamic association of greater Detroit.
And after my talk, husband and wife, who had were born and raised in Syria, but have lived here for many years, they have four kids. They normally speak Arabic at home, but they told me that when their oldest son wants to be defiant, or disrespectful, he switches to English. The parents told me that his whole body language changes he slouches he gets a smirk on his face. He started speaking to us in English. And and that's how it's like Justin Bieber just walked into the house, Justin Bieber, while English has become the language of disrespect. So one of the recommendations I have when I speak for Muslim communities, is if you the parent, were born outside the United States, if you are
fluent in another language, speak that language at home, make sure your kids are fluent in your native language, find other families that speak that language, make connections with them.
Because American English speaking, culture is now really toxic. And if you can connect to a different culture, and show kids that there's a different culture where it's not cool to be defined and disrespectful, and connect kids to other families who speak that language and enjoy that music. That's really helpful because it gives kids a perspective that hey, Drake and Bruno Mars and and Lady Gaga and and Cardi B they're not the whole world. There isn't another culture. There are other cultures out there. American culture is not the only culture and that's a very helpful message to communicate to your kid. You also quote in your article I want to touch upon this I was really blown
away and you kind of know this from watching I Love Lucy and whatnot. But you know, they did a study on this where researchers you quote in UC la analyzing the most popular American shows targeting children and teens found that the most popular shows from the 1960s to the 1990s taught kids.
Kids what's most important is do a doing the right thing, being a good friend telling the truth, even if it hurts, but in more recent popular shows, such as survive
favorite American Idol, the focus is on winning and becoming famous. I think this is just being this is nice compared to all the other stuff that's out there. You know, please talk more about about this study. Yeah. So this is a UCLA study where they looked, as you said, at the most popular TV shows targeting children and teenagers. And they found from 1967, through 1997, even though the shows were very different, the message was the same as you just said, it's all about doing the right thing, being a good friend and telling the truth had been a bit hurt. And that was true, whether you're talking about the Andy Griffith Show in 1967, or Buffy the Vampire Slayer in 1997. But then
between 1987 and 2007, everything switched. And suddenly being famous, which had been the least important thing became the most important thing. And it shows like Survivor iCarly American Idol, suddenly, it's all about winning, doing the right thing that's gonna get you voted off the island. And it's gotten only worsened since that time. So we have really good research showing that American culture changed, and the change most dramatically between 1987 and 2007. And the researchers wondered, why is that? Why did the culture change? And the answer they give is social media.
Social media transformed American culture, suddenly, it was all about how many likes you get how many followers you have. And it's only gotten worse, since 2007. So parents again have to be on their guard. And and you need to really limit what your kids are doing on YouTube, what they're doing on tick tock. And, again, the parental monitoring apps, I have no affiliation with any of them. But you got to choose one of them to put on any device that has internet access, because it's not reasonable for you, as a busy parent to be constantly hovering over your kid's shoulder. And I don't expect you to, but the apps will do that and explain to your kid, look, it's my job as your
parent to limit govern and guide what you're doing online. And so this app is going to show me what you're doing. It's gonna stop you from doing some of this stuff. And it's going to report to me what you're doing. And if I see you doing something bad, you may lose the device. Great advice. I mean, amazing, great advice. In your book, I remember certain things from it that really stood out, particularly this book, girls on the edge, and you talk about the performance of girls. So when I vaguely remember, but it just it was so powerful, you know, the performance of girls and an all girls school versus mixing them with boys and what it did to their overall performance. Can you talk
about that? Because I've never I remember, smiling is that's been the first addition to so yeah, but it's finished look, because I remember going to a Catholic all boys school. And I remember the effects, you know that it's all boys and how you can focus and whatnot, and then going into now a public school where it's all mixed. And it was, you know, boys, the main thing on boy's mind was hooking up with the with the girls
want to read that they've got to find the old edition, the 10 edition, because the new edition, that publisher, the editor
persuaded me to drop that it's gone. Oh, the reason they did that is because single sex education is not an option. For most Americans. It's just not fewer than 1% of American girls graduate from a girls high school. And I wanted to let me I don't I'm sorry to interject the I just wanted to also bring this up. Why? Because we still do that as Muslims, we still go ahead and separate the men separate the women. So I want people to know, I mean, from a psychological. And I still have in chapter seven of that book, the importance of connecting girls to community of women, connecting boys to community of men. That final chapter. So the last few chapters of girls on the edge are
mind, body and spirit. And that last chapter spirit, what a girl needs to become a woman of faith is different from what a boy needs to become a man of faith. It's not a guess we got good studies on this point. But what both boys and girls need is they need to be connected to community. Adults, girls need a community of women boys need a community of men. That's what the religious community needs to offer.
And actually have a workshop for communities of faith on on what teens need. What they don't need is a pizza party for girls and boys together. And that's what Unfortunately, many communities offer. It's not that they need girls need to community of women boys need a community of men. And when you do that, then you have strong bonds across generations and that's what helps girls to become women of faith. That's what helped boys to become men of faith.
So that's still in there. But that chapter on mine which used to be all about the benefits of all girls education is gone
and replaced with our
and other information about helping girls to be confident and, and assertive and all that kind of stuff.
So, you remember clearly there in the book, I remember vaguely, you talked about how, you know, the woman when men were present also, you know, they were more about focusing on attracting the boys. And, you know, and same thing with the boys. The girls have, we have a lot of those interesting studies. So one group of researchers looked at girls in Chicago, and also girls on a Native American reservation in Arizona or New Mexico.
And they found when the girls were just playing dodgeball, in an all girls setting, they were they were really into it, they were playing hard. But the moment the voice came,
many of the girls stepped back, because the sports are for boys. And the girls just stepped back and started talking to the girls and the boys took the game over. So the CO Ed format can really disadvantaged girls in many domains. Certainly, that's true. And in sports. Certainly, it's true in computer science, physics and engineering.
But again, the publisher persuaded me to drop that because
specifically girls schools, it's just not an option for most people living in the United States. And even in those cities that have
girls schools, most of them are private schools that are often expensive. I did lead a group for many years called the National Association for single sex, public education, and to encourage more public schools to offer single sex options. And when we started, there were seven girls public schools and one boys public school in the United States. When they when we shut down in 2012, there were 70 Girls public schools, actually 110 Girls, public schools and 70 boys public schools, which sounds like a lot, but there's more than 90,000 Public Schools United States, so it's still less than 1/10 of 1%.
It's just not an option for most parents. So that's why we felt we could make better use of that chapter by talking about some of this newer research so but yeah, for in the in the spiritual domain and the religious community. Absolutely. You want girls with women and boys with men, that's what the research says. Let's talk about this wiring in the brain. The study showing boys and girls are totally different male and females hot, hard wired, the way they're hardwired, you know, how they smell the same, the how they see the New York Times publish your article, girls are better with odors 100 times 200k 100,000 I was more sensitive here. You know, you have hearing smell more than
400 Scientific scholarly references. So my question, here's my question doctors, have the people who are pushing this man can be a woman woman could be a man, this. gender is a social construct, had they seen these scientific references, these scholarly references? No, with very few exceptions. So let me first of all summarize what we were just talking about. So she googled my name, Leonard Sachs and New York Times and stinky socks, you'll find the article I wrote for The New York Times you socks showing that indeed, for many odors, girls, and women have a sense of smell that's much better than boys in bed. 100,000 times more sensitive in some cases. So the man says, The woman says, Oh,
my goodness, it really stinks in here I'm gonna throw up.
And I think it's important, first of all, for men and women to understand this, because otherwise, the woman's really angry. It's just like, how could you pretend you don't smell that it's incredible. It's overpowering. How can you pretend you know he's not pretending he's telling the truth. The man and the woman need to understand that they are experiencing different sensory worlds.
And
profound differences in vision, hearing and smell. Again, this all comes from my book, why gender matters.
And, again, when you debate as I have debated people who are pushing this transgender, transgender activism, the great majority of these people have never heard of this research, and have no interest in it. They believe that male and female are an invention of the heteronormative patriarchy, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot or republican or both.
So what are these people who are like certain other agendas, they were like follow the science follow?
Well, there's a great contradiction there because they follow the science only when the science aligns with their politics. And when it doesn't, they are ignorant and they have a remarkable lack of curiosity.
Or when you really push the studies on them, they will do
desperately tried to find some flaw. They'll say, Well, that study was too small or, or those people had an agenda. They haven't read the paper though, so they're at grade.
They're at a great disadvantage, because their criticisms are not valid. These This is really compelling work. And another study that I often cite when I'm asked to speak on this topic, researchers recruited pregnant women in the third trimester of pregnancy, and did high resolution MRI scans of the baby still in the mother's womb, and find very dramatic differences between the wiring of the boys brain compared to the wiring of the girl's brain.
And it's not a matter of development, the two brains are developing along different trajectories we are born male, or female.
And then people will say, well, but intersex is just as common and as red hair 2% of of humans are intersex, neither male nor female, are both male and female. Well, no, actually not. The correct number is
not two in 100, but less than two and 10,000. live births are actually intersex. Intersex is a very rare anomaly. And for people who are confused or want to read the literature, advise them to Google the phrase How common is intersects the title of a paper I wrote for the Journal of Sex research. One of my most cited papers
showing that when you add up the highest possible numbers for these very rare conditions, so for example,
x x and x y embryo are fruit fused and this individual is is is a mix of two different chromosomal complements one male x y the other female x x. This individual has both an ovary and a testicle,
producing both male and female hormones a true intersex individual that particular pick particular anomaly. About one to 2 million live births is extremely rare, but it happens. And if you're going to discuss this topic, you need to be prepared to talk about intersex but the first thing to understand is that intersex is very rare. It's less common than Siamese twins and conjoined twins, we don't develop a theory of personality built around Siamese twins is the norm. Siamese twins are not the norm. They're very rare exception. And the theory of personality built on two heads sharing one body would not be helpful, because that's a very rare anomaly it is not a normal variation.
Intersex likewise is a very rare anomaly it is not a normal variation being left hand it is a normal variation.
Being intersex is not normal variation. It is a unique and unusual pathology.
And again that transgender activists tried to use intersex as part of their ideological battering ram to break down this intuition that most humans have that we are either male or female. Not both, not neither. So if you're going to debate this topic with the transgender activist, I encourage you first to read my paper how common is intersex? So that you prepared to say no intersex is not common. It's not as common as red here. It's about as common as Siamese twins. It's rare.
It can you can you just move your mic a little away from your mouth. It's quite critical. It's a little bit of static. There you go. Yes, yes. Okay. Yes. Thank you.
Just a few more questions before we conclude. Tell me this. You were very courageous enough. And this goes back to I'm going to use one word because we're family friendly show but it kind of I have I can't not use it because well, I can. But I just don't want to take away from this powerful statement. Yes. You said if you can elaborate on it. He said it's it is malpractice. Yeah. To put that boy in a dress change his name to Emily and then prepare to cut off his balls malpractice to put a boy in a dress and call him Emily and cut off his balls
yeah, so the American Academy of Pediatrics issued guidelines
official guidelines on what do you do if a if a five year old boy says he's a girl or 14 or girl says he's a boy. And the guidelines now say these are the official guidelines from our nation's leading experts
are that you are to immediately transition if that five year old boy says he's a girl you are to change his name to Emily you're to change the birth certificate to Emily. Justin never existed. You're to put him in a dress and he's going to school as Emily and that will lead down the road that leads to cross sex hormones and castration.
What was the evidence? Okay, the previous standard was what was called a watchful waiting. So this boy
He says he's a girl.
Why do you why do you think you're a girl because I love ballet and only girls like ballet. Well actually, some boys love ballet. It's there's nothing wrong with a boy liking ballet and you can study ballet, but you're gonna study ballet as a boy now because a girl that was the previous standard, prior to the new Gatton guidelines, the American Academy now says that's bigotry, if you if you do that, you're you're bigoted. And you're you're, uh, you're ignoring the evidence? What's the evidence that that Watchful Waiting is so harmful as conversion, they said, watchful waiting is conversion therapy. And we know that conversion therapy doesn't work. And they cited one study and
supported their claim that conversion therapy doesn't work that one study was a study of adult men
who were gay and wanted to be straight. And this one study showed that trying to convert them from gay to straight, didn't work. And I said in my comment, which was published by the American Academy of Pediatrics is still on their website.
I said a study of sexual orientation and adult men
is not relevant to the question of gender identity and five year olds, you would think that pediatricians would understand that children are not adults, and that a study of adult sexual orientation is not relevant to children's gender identity, sexual orientation and gender identity are very different things.
But they did. So the guidelines stand, and it's immensely harmful. These guidelines are immensely harmful. I was hired as an expert witness in the case of a family whose 14 year old daughter said that she's a boy. And the parents said, No, you're not a boy, we're not going to help you transition to the male role, and yet you cross sex hormones. And so she could the child, the 14 year old contacted Child Protective Services. And they took her out of the household and put her in foster care with a family that would give her cross sex hormones. And the parents sued, said, No, we're the parents, we have the right to make that decision. Where did this this happen here in the US? This
happened in Arizona, they took the they took the just happening every day. And this is happening all the time in California.
Yeah, they actually tell the kids in the school, hey, if you want to transition and your parents don't want you to come to us, and I'm your mom, now as one teacher in California said, and many cases, what, but this case was Arizona, which is not as crazy as California, you keep it and keep it there. We hear you better when it's here it was by your mouth.
Just
so I'm speaking one on one with a judge.
And I'm explaining look, the research shows that.
And this particular girl is anxious, She's depressed. This is a manifestation of her psychiatric disorder. It is not best practice. How old is she? How old? Is she 14 years 14, they took her out of the house. They took her out of the house and put her in foster care, ad and the judge said Yeah, but what's what are the official guidelines of the American Academy of Pediatrics? I said, okay, the official guidelines of the American Academy of Pediatrics Are you got to do what the girl wants you to do. And the judge said, so Dr. Sachs, you're telling us that you know better than the American Academy of Pediatrics, remind me again, you're a family doctor.
You're not a professor, you're just a family doctor. Doctor says you're asking me to take your word
over the official guidelines and the American Academy of Pediatrics. Isn't that correct? I said, Yes. That's that's exactly what I'm asking you to do. She said, I can't do that. You're just a family doctor. This is the American Academy of Pediatrics and the parents lost their suit. They lost custody of their child.
And this is happening. So it is not just theoretical that the American Academy of Pediatrics has been politicized. It's harming kids. Right now kids are being mistreated. Healthy girls are having mastectomies at 1314 15 years of age.
Because they have been sucked into this toxic American culture. So again, you've got to be on your guard. You got to limit what kids are seeing on Tik Tok and YouTube, because American popular culture has become really toxic. It's cool to be trans in the United States.
Do you remember that? Have you ever watched a show Sanford and Son Oh, that's a long time remember? It's never to son when I do. What do you hear some news? He says oh, it's the big one. It's coming. It's coming. I'm telling you this will make you cry. You know this when you hear this? It's no exaggeration. This just pendant it just going back to the heart. This is really you know
For if your heart is a lie, you're conscious, you're, you know, a God conscious person, you just a good person who wants to live by some morals, you know what I mean? You know, some
you mentioned this is politicized. This has nothing to do with science, you know, and you're one man standing up against me, God Almighty, bless you, you know and reward you tremendously for taking the stand. I'm just so like, impressed by this, you know, so what can a community we had recently in Detroit, if you saw the news, they were showing on the news, these books, and they couldn't show the images, but then there's sexualizing the kids by showing them these images. And then you saw the Muslim community stepped up, you know, Christians, also other people who are against this, they stepped up to unified came together. And they were working to get these books out of there. What's
your advice, you know, for parents, for others, you know what, along with advice you're giving, you know, when boards come together, you know, when people are coming together to push this stuff on the kids sexualization of kids at such a young age. Yeah, schools are important. And again, I just did an interview for the epic times about some of these books that they're putting in the kindergarten, first second grade,
teaching little kids that it's normal to have
two moms that it's if you are,
that it's courageous to be trans. That
telling six year olds that if you're not comfortable being a boy, that maybe you're a girl, it's wildly age, inappropriate, it is harmful, it is toxic, it is destabilizing.
The male, female, binary is real. There's a sperm, there's an egg, anything in between is pathology. If it's not a sperm or an egg, then it's not a gamete. And it won't work. That's okay. That's the way God made us. And there's so much toxicity in what's out there, you've got to know what's going on in your school. And if you find the things are going on, that aren't healthy, then you need to reach out to other parents and approach the school leadership with the other parents, don't ever try to do this on your own. One angry parent is just a nuisance. 10 angry parents can make a change. So reach out to other parents
reach across, across faiths. You know, I speak at Catholic at the speak of synagogues, I speak at Muslim,
they all know that we are children of God.
And we have so much more in common than that unifies us so that we can speak together across faiths and go to that superintendent that principal and say, This is not acceptable. The public school needs to be accountable to the public school parents and what you're doing here.
We will not tolerate there has to be a change, and you can do it, you can make a change, you have stepped across those boundaries. And you just said something brilliant, we have to work together, you know, reach across, and you've done that you can be you've been a shining example. And I think you know, there's a lot of people of other faiths out there who feel as strongly as we feel but now there's a lot of times this hesitation because all the Muslims you know them terrorism, this, that and the other you know what I mean? And I'm going to play a quick quiz game with you to see it's called Did You Know just before we conclude, but what advice do you have for others out there who
maybe they're still stuck in their town, they haven't got out to travel, they're still thinking these Moslems they want to chop our heads off, you know, there's just that any other and whatnot and, and we're losing out because we're not able to unify, we're divided and we're not working together to combat some of this thing, this attack on our children.
Well, I think there's a lot of stereotyping on on both sides. I have spoken in many rural communities.
And
you can change minds don't give up on on, on your fellow human beings.
They you may encounter people who are prejudiced against the Muslim community, reach out to them, talk to them, you can change their mind. Don't be discouraged. Did you know I'm gonna ask you this before. Did you know that? Muslims, it's an article of faith to believe and love Jesus? Did you know that? Dr. Sex? I believe that Jesus is regarded as a prophet? Yes. It's a mighty messenger. Yes, yes, yes. And did you know that there's a chapter named after his blessing mother, called the chapter of Medion Sudha Medion in the Quran, did you know this? I did. Have been gifted the Quran by a number of Muslim communities and it has a special place on my books.
off and I just make these points because this can be an icebreaker these talking points is so important that you know when we say Jesus we say peace be upon him we hold him to such a high reverence obviously we don't believe he's God or literal Son of God but he's a mighty messengers like Abraham, Moses and all the other preceding messengers who brought the same message of worship one God the Creator not the creation is very straightforward. I think this you know, when people know this that they love our Jesus Yes, we love him as much as we love Jesus. This can hopefully soften some hearts and we can get beyond some of these negative false stereotypes. God wouldn't hope
so. I hope so soon inshallah. Inshallah God willing. Yes.
So before we conclude, now, your books, the books are called why gender matters, boys adrift girls on the edge, you can't get that one that I've read now. It's still out there still out there. It's way out of date because the major focus of that book is on the harms of social media, but tick tock did not exist when I wrote the first edition. So the second edition is much more up to date. I want to also have you visit Florida at all, of course. So you've been to Tampa. I've been to Tampa on many occasions. I've spoken on many occasions for the school district of Hillsborough County, sixth largest school district in the United States and and all across Central Florida from Volusia County
Daytona Beach DeLand to Orlando and and Tampa Absolutely you were telling me about the other day Mom What was his name again he um to hear Anwar so he was someone who recommended to board members and others to bring you out and from there people start bringing you I want to go ahead and call upon my audience to go ahead and start bringing you out and I'll be one of the first if not in Florida we've taken the deen show we're looking thank God we have acquired the property is called the Dean center
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Muslims around here it's pretty huge and split like this, the place the location that you opened in basically, for further south from the other other big massages. And everyone I know a lot of people that I used to come my cousin lives nine minutes from here, another uncle of mine lives about five to 10 minutes from here, this area, the Masjid opened up in an area that it's much needed and this size, this
the center this center is much needed for this area. And the idea of this center is needed for the whole state because we don't have anything like that in the whole state that was center where it's going to basically nurture and basically educate and it's going to basically spread this man
now we're in the works of getting it built up and God willing inshallah be open,
hopefully within a year. And then I like to start doing live events there and bringing out people like yourself, and I want you also hopefully when I send an invitation to come on down to Tampa, and do some of your presentations and do a live show in front of a live studio audience, God willing. How's that sound? I'd love to do it. I love it. All right. Thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you for speaking the truth. Thanks for inviting me. All right. Peace be with you as we say salam, thank you. I cannot leave without giving you a gift. If you're not yet Muslim and you're tuning in to see what these Muslims are talking about. And you'd like a free copy of the Quran. Go and visit
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