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They look like any European family.
Around the world, a sea of blue and yellow from Berlin to Prague to Seoul, the colors of the Ukrainian flank now a call to action, don't stay at home. Jews go wives go up. Ukrainian cities have been bound in
worst violence in a year. And it's only day two of what Israel says could be a week long bombardment of the Gaza Strip.
How would you compare the reporting in the media and Gaza, at least 44 Palestinians, including 15 children have been killed and three days of an Israeli military bombardment? Well, you just told me that we intercepted almost all the rockets and nobody got injured. I think there was three slight injuries in Israel. So why did you have to kill the 66? Palestinians? So of 44 skilled human shields? Yeah, by the way, Israeli defense forces use human shields all the time, they will put Palestinian children in front of them and enter a building so they don't get shot. They're disgusting, okay. And then they pretend that and then they pack everybody into Gaza. They got 2
million people in an open air prison, and they go, Well, if I drop a bomb in the middle of your city, it's not my fault. It's your fault for having civilians there. And we are here to show our solidarity to Ukrainian people with Ukrainian people and support them and they have fights for the independence sovereignty of the country relatively civilized. Many European families questions are white you know, this is a relatively civilized relatively European I have to choose those words carefully to city where you wouldn't expect that or hope that it's going to happen when they say oh civilized cities, and in another clip, well dressed people and this is not the third world. They
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Milan hamdulillah As Salam aleikum, greetings of Peace, welcome to the D Show. I'm your host subscribe if you haven't already hit that notification bell. My next guest. Alison Weir is an American human rights activist, and President and Founder of if Americans only knew the mission of Americans, if Americans only knew is to inform and educate the American public on issues of major significance that are and reported underreported, or mis reported in the American media. And without further ado, let's bring out our special guests. Alison Weir. How are you doing? Alison? I'm good. Thank you. How are you? Thanks. Thanks for coming back here on the Dean show. Have you been? busy?
Busy? Yes. So tell us latest developments we read in the news. More than Is it 15 or more than 15 innocent young children. There's bombs flying again, in Palestine there. Can you just bring our audience up to speed on what's going on? Exactly what's going on? What caused this again to erupt? Sure, I'll be glad to.
Yes, the numbers keep growing because just today it looks like another 10 year old girl in Gaza, a little girl who loves dancing. Like many 10 year olds just died from wounds that she sustained during Israel's recent bombardment of Gaza.
She's at least the second 10 year old to just die from wounds from Israel's attack. It is I think it must be approximately 17 children now that have died.
It's something like I 47 people in all were killed by Israelis, Israeli airstrikes on Gaza.
In addition to that, as if that weren't enough is your then there were demonstrations and various events in the West Bank. So Israel killed about four or five more people in the West Bank. Some of them also miners
It also a lot of reports are leaving out that I believe, is really forces in their bombardment, you know, supposedly to get, you know, one or two resistance fighters, they just pummeled the whole area. And something like 1000 homes were damaged. 1000 Yeah. So that's, that's, that's under the pretext that what again?
Well, they were going after what basically, it started with killing one senior commander in the Palestinian resistance forces in Gaza.
On that strike, even on that strike, what US media tended to underplay or maybe not even report is on that strike. They also killed a 16 year old.
What's causing it is a little unclear. The Israeli media are speculating this is probably
as validity that what's going on is that the prime Israel is getting ready for some very close races, electoral races just the way the US is. So there's lots of maneuvering to win the voters over and the current Israeli Prime Minister year lobbied Israeli media are suggesting launch this to show how tough he is, so that voters would vote for him because sadly, many Israelis are very happy that at what Israel is doing, because you know, they're propagandized, too. So the idea is that this he may have launched this just to show how tough he is to get votes.
And how would, how would you? How would you compare? I mean, anytime the innocent human life is taken, it said, no matter where it's at. So where you have in this situation, how would you compare? Because you guys are watching this, you're seeing what's happening? How would you compare the reporting in the media, in Ukraine, compared to here, what's happening with the Palestinians in this part of the world, of course, it's just night and day, just night and day. So the American population and a lot of people are starting to pick this up, but they don't always know what's going on so much in Israel Palestine. But of course, you know, the media, sadly, most, most of them that
legacy corporate media,
basically, have an agenda quite often at the top, the reporters lower down are trying to do a good job usually working very hard, not especially well paid. But at the top, there's an agenda that often matches the agenda of the Democratic Party establishment, and the US establishment in general. So right now, the establishment has clearly decided a journalist named Matt Taibbi has documented this very well. So Russia is the enemy,
Ukraine as the victim, the fact that NATO expanded in ways that were broke promises that had been made, are left out. So we see the suffering and devastation in Ukraine, which is, is good, I think we should always know when people are dying and suffering. But the establishment doesn't think that people should know about Palestinians to the same extent, and to people in Gaza. So you know, on the one hand, they see the suffering, it makes them empathize with those people want to help them in Ukraine. They don't see really what's happening in Russia.
And they don't see, you know, what, much longer than Ukraine has been going on in the Palestinian occupied territories, especially in Gaza, but also often in the West Bank. If they did, that's why we named our organization 20 years ago, if Americans do, because if Americans knew that we're giving Israel well over $10 million per day of our tax money, when many people are struggling to make that money. And the way Israel is using it so often to oppress
them Palestinian families, you know, it's always portrayed as Oh, it's just Hamas, or it's against the fighters or against, quote, terrorists. And people don't say no, it's against an entire population. It's against families, it's against children, against seniors, against people that have been suffering for what is it now
15 years of us of a suffocating siege by Israel. So if Americans knew that and knew that our fund our money is funding it, I think they would demand very different US policies. Do you think if Americans really knew what was going on, and you had what was done in Ukraine with Russia, you had all the sanctions and you had all the
sympathy and support for what's happening in Ukraine, how much because you don't get the same sympathy, a lot of times there's a spin put on things and people are kind of ignorant to really what's happening. But if they really, really knew, do you think it'd be a different story, I think would be a very different story. Consistently, you know, most populations, the majority of around the world are good people that want to just live their lives and not cause suffering to other people. You know, it's pretty simple. That's how most people are, you know, you just see that around you. But they can be propagandized. Um, that happens also with lots of populations. So the American
population, what I've seen in I've been working on this issue now for over 20 years. And what I've seen is among the popular the sort of left half of the country, the people that are tend to be Democrats and progressives and liberals have started to learn more about what actually is going on in Palestine. And the, the sympathy has changed to a large degree, not among the power brokers or the campaign donors, who are usually hardcore as your partisans. But among the grassroots, there really is much more understanding and sympathy for Palestinians. However, among conservatives, who are also good people, you know, who care about human beings, but in that population, we haven't done
as good a job of reaching them, and they're getting a great deal of propaganda. This suggests, oh, you know, Palestinians are terrorists, they're attacking poor Israel, they often think it's the opposite of what's going on. So that population
is often less informed. It hasn't always been that case. That way. Some of the people who first started exposing the real facts about Israel, Palestine, were Republicans, Paul Finley, Chuck Percy, Pete McCloskey, Patrick Buchanan. So that population also when they learn the facts, become sympathetic to Palestinians. But most sadly, many, many conservatives are very, very misled on this issue by the US media. How do you address that? When it comes up? The response that someone says, Oh, they're terrorists, they're this they're that for someone like yourself, who's been an American, who's been watching this for over 20 years? So when someone comes up and makes makes this kind of
statement, how do you like to address that? I'd like to give them the basic facts. I like to emphasize I'm not as if despite my lovely headscarf here, it was given to me by some people. I'm I'm not Muslim, I'm not Arab. My background is Christian. I'm very mainstream American, very patriotic American. I grew up in a military family, my father had served in World War Two. So I'd like to give you know, first of all, when you tell when you talk to an American and say, Well, you know, the media are very biased. They always agree.
But they think that their own media are not, you know, are not biased. They agree a media are, but they still believe what they're getting. So you have to sort of explain No, you know, they, then they'll tell you what's going on, you'll say, Well, where did you learn that. And of course, it's from the media, you know, very few people have gone over there. Very few people have the time to independently study all these important issues, more likely to have studied, if anything, a local issue. So in a one to one conversation, it's difficult, because there's so much to overcome. But you can do it bit by bit by bit, if you can have a long enough conversation. Fortunately, I have, in the
past years had the chance to speak many places where I can get up at a podium, and I have an hour to explain what's going on. And at the end of that hour, I one time I did this in, in Northern California. And afterwards, some of us were having dinner at a nearby restaurant. And this older couple senior citizens about my age, stopped by our table and said, I want to tell you, we were at your your talk. And you completely turned us around on this issue. Wow. So that's because they had had a chance to hear for an hour lecture with evidence. Not with hyperbole, not with a lot of you not not overly emotional. Of course, I do get emotional at times during it. But basically just
laying out the real facts and providing the evidence for that. So when you can do that.
Many people will be reached, but in one to one conversation. Of course it's harder to have the time to to do that. But I think
but not to be discouraged. I have met people that are working on telling people and working back trying to bring joy
Just for Palestinians, that are mainstream Americans like me, you know, ask well, you know, how did you get involved? What, what woke you up to this? And quite often they'll say, Well, I there was a co worker that was Palestinian, or when I was a student, one of the other students was Palestinian. So many of them were awakened up by just, you know, getting to know somebody who was a Palestinian American, or Muslim American or an Arab American, that would tell them what was going on. And that often does reach people.
Because most people don't have strong views on it. So you'll hear from the people that, you know, think they know what's going on and are very, you know, forceful. But most people don't have a strong view there. They find it a confusing issue, and they don't know much about it.
So even with the grass, the gas prices going up. And with all the inflation that $10 million a day, which probably most Americans don't know that their hard earned tax money is going towards this 10 million a day, even with inflation and gas flight prices hasn't gone down at all, or it's still 10 million a day. It's so it rarely goes down. But victory of the money to Israel is that basically, basically it it sort of steadily creeps upward. And it's largely because this media rarely cover it. Most people have no idea how much money goes there. You know, and that shows right there the kind of cover, we're getting into kind of very filtered information. Because, you know, major facts people
tend to know so wouldn't we know that the number one recipient of our tax money for decades, has been has been Israel now and then they're blips right now Ukraine is getting a huge amount. And people know that. But before that, for many years, Israel was the top recipient, and almost nobody knew that.
When I first started on this issue, I live in the San Francisco area. So we looked into the San Francisco coverage of, of Palestine, Israel in general. And among the things we looked at is, how often did they tell people how much money goes to Israel out of hundreds of stories on the topic?
We discovered it was only three times that they even mentioned it, you know, down usually down low. And never did they really give the full amount. So, you know, it's some media now are starting to give that after 20 years, I think I think our organization and others have started to have an impact. I think the coverage is not as bad as it used to be at all.
But it's still very, very filtered.
Hasn't the international community and many of the courts deemed this an illegal occupation, the illegal Celebes settlements, isn't as something that is just unanimous.
Yes, talk about that. Yes, the
that's that's the international consensus, international law is that these Israeli settlements, and really, in some ways, you know, even the language, of course, is very skewed. Because these are illegal, Israeli Jewish colonies on somebody else's land. And I don't use that word because I'm anti Jewish many people. So many of my allies working on this issue are Jewish Americans and some are Israelis. But you have this is really important. You have Israelis and Jews who are working, like I have a good friend Miko. Pillet his Have you heard of Miko? Pillet? Yes, I used Miko. Yeah, he's also an Israeli Jewish man whose father was the signer of the Declaration of Independence father was
a general in the Israeli army. And he's also just one a great example of someone who is just fighting for the truth. That's right, like yourself. So go ahead. I'm sorry. So but but these is these illegal colonies. You can't just call them Israeli colonies, because a portion, you know, about 20% of the Israeli population are Palestinians, the ones that were not completely pushed out of in 1948. And then again, in 1967, there's a portion that have remained there. They often were pushed off their own land, you know, out of their own homes, but they're still supposedly Israeli citizens. They're, of course not allowed to live in those Israeli colonies. So they're really Jewish
on the colonies, often, you know, a Jewish American from Brooklyn might have moved there, and is living on land that very recently was, was stolen from Palestinians who had owned it for generations. So that's illegal. That's not allowed. And under the Geneva Conventions and other some, you know, other international law, that's not allowed. You're not allowed to steal people's land. You're not allowed to
to move your population on to somebody else's land, you're not allowed to, you know, consciously change the demography. It's all this is all well articulated in international law. And this is recognized internationally. But in the US that's almost never mentioned.
So that's why it's very important. If Americans only knew because they understand that here, if one country comes over and starts to occupying take land, like in Ukraine, over here, they've been doing it for how long coming and stealing the land. But you can't you got to be consistent. You can't have double standards, correct? That's right. And again, these are American principles. You know, some people try to say, oh, you know, as you're so much like America, that's why we support it. No, it isn't. You know, we have a constitution they don't. And we have a lot of principles that we believe in, we believe in, in not establishing as a religion that was right in the Constitution. It shows
based on the state religion.
I think most Americans are very strongly committed, you know, we use the word fair, we want people to be fair, you know, I've grandson's playing Little League, and they are very upset if something's not fair. So we want fairness. I think we believe in justice. We, of course, were founded by a violent revolution, the Revolutionary War, you know, 1776 period of time. So we would be very sympathetic to people, we fight against oppression, and
no taxation without representation, all of that that's embedded in our, in our national history. So we would be very, very, we would identify with Palestinians who are fighting for their own independence and justice.
So these are very American principles. The only thing that's getting in the way is that people are being misinformed on one of the most important issues in the world, you know, not only because of the suffering it causes to human beings on the other side of the world, but it destabilize has destabilize the entire region. For decades. It's caused wars in which Americans have not fought and died. Sadly, for Israel.
It's caused us policies that cause hostility to the United States. So this is not only bad for the people in the region. This is very, very damaging to Americans awesome. And people knew that they would be upset too. How do you like to address the issue, you know, the name calling that happens? And then the stigma that gets attached to someone, the term anti semitic. I've had also rabbis come on the program, who will make it lucidly clear that Judaism This is against the teachings of Orthodox Judaism. They will say this is to Zionism. This is the problem. So these are rabbis I've had Rabbi Weiss, Rabbi Shapiro and others will come on who are strong voice also. But then this term
gets thrown out, you know, anti semitic, they'll throw it on you hoping they'll stick? And also that all Jews are just Muslims, they hate Jews. I don't know if you've heard this. Also, how do you respond to this? Well, that is a tactic. That's a tactic being called as a medic is very offensive, and very damaging, very damaging, and very offensive. So they do that all the time. And after a while, you just have to, you know, that's what's going to happen when you speak about this. And it should not silence people, that slinging should not silence people. So in my own case, of course, that was done immediately, even before, like now part of what I tried to do is tell people about
the, you know, influence of a very powerful special interest, the pro Israel lobby.
But even before I did that, even when I just I had traveled, as I mentioned, I think on your earlier program, I had traveled over to Palestine to the occupied territories in early 2001, before 911 and saw firsthand what was going on took pictures of what was going on. And so when I came back, and started giving talks,
showing people my pictures telling what I personally had seen, not even mentioning the Israel lobby, I wasn't very aware of that yet. I'm just for doing that I was called anti semitic, because there's an effort to conflate Israeli actions with our Jews, which is unfair. So here's the irony is that if anybody's anti semitic, it's often the pro Israel establishment, because they're trying to say, Oh, these are Jewish actions. No, all Jewish Americans are connected to this. So to me, that's anti semitic. And that's not what what I say, or other activists working on this issue, say, what's even worse is that not only have they been doing that, but that's at least
Add to the definition of anti semitism. Because the traditional dictionary definition of anti semitism is bias or hostility against Jewish people. It doesn't mention anything about telling facts about Israel. But now there's been an effort for a number of years this has gone on for a long time. I've documented in a long article, where Israel partisans have now fabricated a new definition of anti semitism, in which many criticisms and facts and statements about Israel are now under this new definition, quote, anti semitic.
So before we conclude, I wanted to share with you if Americans only knew because this is our vision at the D show is to bridge the gap of misunderstanding. And this is one of the issues that's so important that we can work on together. As Muslims as Christians, I think it's so important. There's a lot of misconceptions. And I think that if these things are clear, if we can sit we can talk clear these misconceptions. And I just wanted to share with the audience and I don't know, you might know this, you might not but if Americans only knew because obviously he's a Christian, the one who's most beloved to Christians is Jesus. But did you know, Allison, that Muslims love Jesus also, it's
an article of faith to believe in love Jesus, obviously, as a mighty messenger, not as a god or literal Son of God, but we love Him, we say peace be upon him. There's another person that we love dearly. And that's just like, you know, imagine if someone says someone is praying crazy, talking good of someone you love so deeply your mother, your father, you know, say I have high respect for your parents, you know, but we're saying we have high love and respect for someone who is so close to Christians marry the mother Jesus, there's a whole chapter named after her in the, in the Koran. And she's she any picture out there that you see of her resembles like what you're wearing right
now, the art, yes. And then the last, the last point is, you know, the main message of Islam, which simply means to submit your will to one and only God is the message of pure monotheism, worshiping the Creator, not the creation and being morally upright, being kind, and just with your neighbors, doesn't matter if it's Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, doesn't matter. So because a lot of times the media and a lot of times corrupt politicians and others if you know a hate agenda, they'll push on propagate that Muslims are coming to get you there to Boogeyman. So that kind of fosters a division a hate at least a violence that we can't work together, you understand? So I just wanted to
share that with you. And did you know some of these things that I just mentioned? I learned them you know, I did, I didn't really know them before. I was not against Muslims. But I wasn't very informed on them, of course. But now in 20 years, I've learned a lot not just about Israel, Palestine, but Muslims, you know, since there are many Christian Christian Christianity, of course, as you know, but most Americans forget, also began in Palestine. So, but you know, the majority population for centuries has been Muslim, you know. And so I've met many Muslim, here in the United States, and of course, in Palestine, where they come where they come in to chop your head off, or did you feel
when I go there, I've traveled alone by around by myself, without, with people coming up, smiling at me, welcoming me often inviting me into their homes giving me wonderful tea. So I've experienced that firsthand. And usually when I travel, you know, since my custom I dress modestly, of course, which is appropriate, but I don't I don't wear a headscarf. No people can see I'm, I'm sad, hard to guess I'm a foreigner. But you know, I'm not the only one who does that. Because they're, their Christian neighbors don't either. And they live side by side, they work side by side. So I've I firsthand experience that. And I've had many people, you know, I've now I've read about Islam. And
I've had people talk, you know, I know that Mary is very revered. Jesus is very revered.
I feel that I feel that the religions are very, very close. Very, very similar, that we have much more in common, much more common. Yes. So you know, of course, there are extremists in every religion, there are extremists and Christianity in Islam and Judaism. There are extremists and what's trying but, you know, again, the Israel partisans, the the worst ones, try to say that the the small portion of Muslims who are extremists that represents Islam, that's completely unfair and untrue. Just like saying, some extremist Christian who does something horrible represents Christians. No, they don't. I mean, to say these, you know, there's a great deal of extremism in in
Israel of Jewish extremism, but that does not you know, quite a bit really, we don't read about it. But that does not represent Judaism or Jewish Christian Israelis or Jewish Americans. So this is common sense. But you know, if you
barrage with, with often very slick propaganda. People don't always realize that.
Well, we commend you doing some wonderful work. Thank you so much. If people wanted to be at be Christian church or Muslim organization, whoever and they wanted to learn more, how could it get a hold of you to invite you? Are you still accepting invitations that they wanted to hear this one hour talk, they really wanted to get informed and get make an educated decision. I'd be glad to do that. You can go to our website, if if Americans knew.org If Americans knew dot o RG, there's a phone number their their emails, they can email me, Allison, we're at gmail.com.
So I'd be very happy to do that. And I always have to say we, anybody that wants to please feel free to make donations, it's completely tax deductible. And we use that information to make videos to do articles. I've written a book I think I mentioned. In fact, I hope people will buy my book, and give it to others. So we use that information every way we can. We're, we're working on a major project now that's going to hit next next week. All of it requires money. So donations are very welcomed. God bless you, God bless you for educating the American public the world on really what's going on. And being a voice for understanding. Thank you so much. Thank you, God bless you.
And thank you to our guests, Elson for being with us. And you can see, this is a person who has dedicated over 20 years and has gotten informed and is willing to inform you to come out to your community. And it's about if you are a true seeker, God conscious person, even if the truth goes against yourself or what you've been taught, you're a person because you have got consciousness because you want to do what's morally right, you're going to go ahead and look beyond those prejudices, those biases, and you're going to look beyond the media hype, and you're gonna dig for the truth. A lot of times you got to go through layers and layers and layers of falsehood and
deception, to get to the truth. Otherwise, you ended up staying in that pit of darkness, following your desires, and where are you going to end up from there? So there's a sad event anytime innocent life is lost. And this is not a Muslim Jewish thing, if you ask them that the Jews and Muslims lived in peace for for over 1000 years. And why is it suddenly now suddenly, now that the Muslims, suddenly these guys allegedly hate Jews? Clearly and suddenly want to kill them? Clearly, it's Zionism. That's the problem. We were accepted. In these Muslim Annapolis. We believe in one God and we were accepted, we have different ways of serving God and but yet, as they were respected, and
even the Muslim religion requires of that of the the Muslim people to to provide protection and hospitality and they do carry that out. And it's clear, nobody could refute this fact. Although unfortunately, Zionism and the Zionist, the Zionist, try constantly to vilify the Muslim people and try to recreate
a scenario of as if we have some deep embedded religious conflict and a hate between Jews and Muslims. And that is so deplorable, despicable. And really, it's the words it's a knock. But we've discussed this so many times, we brought Israeli rabbis, friends of mine also come on, who are people who are advocating for the rights of human beings who are living in an open air prism. And that's it, that side of the world can imagine put yourself where you had limited, limited resources, your electricity is being cut off the food that your your neighbor has, you can't have because he's on this side of the fence, and the oppression with the checkpoints, etc, etc. So this is just
something that if it's happening in Ukraine, then the whole world is up in arms, but it's happening here to Muslims and Christians, and most of the world is, you heard it silent. So let's be fair. Let's be consistent. And remember, you know, we go back in history, you see how Jews fled persecution. You have a David Warren Steen, who was an academic Islam saved the jury. So if you really want to know what Islam stances, whereas, you know, when Islam was at the pinnacle superpower, Muslims or Jews were fleeing persecution, coming to live in Muslim lands and Muslims are simply those who, what you've heard it so many times on the deen show. Muslims are those who submit
their will to the one and only created the heavens and earth just like Jesus Moses, Abraham the last and final messenger.
Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon them all. Muslims want to live in peace with their neighbors with their countrymen. But they put God first and foremost the one created the heavens and earth. And if you didn't know you got to learn that Muslims love Jesus. There's a whole chapter named of his Blessed Mother and you'll continue to learn more if you tune into the deen show. And make sure you also support the mega dollar center we're trying to open sharing the purpose of life with the people clearing the many misconceptions dedicated to that and doing good in the community. So support the Dean center we're almost there on what we need to finish and close on the property. So
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