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Since the you said the Quran says that a person was born as a Muslim, and he changes his religion, he should go to that. Sister. I don't know if any of us in the Quran he took he raided a Jewish tribe, but the king of peace, he tried to make peace and he didn't come if he was really common and he wanted to get rid of the Jews, he had the power and the will to do that as the Shahada. She has now Muhammad said, anybody who changes his religion killed him. Allah, Allah,

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Allah, Allah

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say that he is not aware of this story being fabricated. He didn't stone the lady who committed adultery, he does without sins lead cast the first stone that that was not in the original. I think there should be an investigation to find his family to find his father. I second that now a devout Christian convert, warning the world. Islam is out to destroy you either.

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Assalamu alaikum greetings of peace. Welcome to the de SHA media hosts hit that notification bell subscribe if you haven't already, so you don't miss exciting programs like this with my exciting next guest you guys all probably by now most of you. You haven't already have heard about the conversation of the year that happened. Where we got on a platform where we were talking unfortunately it was with Korea Islamophobes and they had a lot to say they did the machine gun method. So now to address some of these things that some people still might have some questions about. I have any mom use of Sassoon Lee. He has memorized the entire Quran is one of the miracles

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of the Quran that is memorized by millions living today from the past present and will continue memorizing in the future, and has also a bachelor's degree in Islamic sciences amongst other specialities and this is one of them so we're going to go ahead and address many of these we're going to dissect it go look at the Ryan table religious discussion. And we're gonna go ahead and break some of these things down and go anywhere

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May

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Allah

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and His final messengers, Muhammad, peace be upon him? This is our religion, Islam, Islam. This is the day she

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was ready to talk about our

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faith of Islam show Welcome to the deen show. The day show.

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Salam aleikum. Wa alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Hi yah, Kamala How you doing? Brother? Aloha Monica Hamed? It's very good to be back on your show after a few months alone with yourself and I Hamdulillah. Nice to have you back here with us. You got a chance to see this roundtable discussion? Yes. Yes. Very informational. Very entertaining and educational, I should say. And a lot a lot to take away from from that and yeah, yeah. Daniel and Jake did a really great job hunting Allah, masha Allah, yes, we're down here together. And there's a lot to unpackage you saw this and you there was some things that now you know, what are your thoughts at the end of the day, like overall, overall,

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with the discussion how it went, I would have liked to have seen people you know, who aren't in it for the money a career, as we call them, Islamophobes haters, people who, at the end of the day, they're not going to really shift their position. You know, it's like if someone's praying wrong or someone is like, what I mean by is, if there's a there's something that you're doing wrong in Islam, right? And someone comes to you and says, you know, you're not actually supposed to do it like this. And the person is never going to change. That's how these person you know, you bring them color, scholarly consensus, the right way to interpret the Quran the right way to go ahead and you know,

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you bring them

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all the scholars refer they're just like, No, they're just gonna keep repeating the same thing because they've been. There's many situations where they've been explaining No, it's like, it's supposed to be like this. Just like I you know this the the verse of the sword where Jesus talks about I have not been sent to bring spread peace but a sword. But when a Christian explains it to you that's, you know how it's actually supposed to be in context. We don't insist No, no, it's means like this. Yeah, I mean, yeah. So what are your thoughts on that? Where do I start? Okay.

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First, I would like to say that the likes of Robert Spencer, David Wood, and this, this other individual with them, Rashid Hammami there are many out there in the non Muslim world, especially in the West, UK, non Muslim countries, UK, Australia, America, there are many people who are out there provocateur is, as you said, last time, people who are spewing venom out there to very good, well intentioned people who are really seeking the truth, they don't have any automatic animosity towards Muslims. They don't have any kind of hostility. However, after listening to some of the venom that's being spewed by this person and his ilk, you really, you're really not left with an option. One

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example that I think is vivid to bring up here is that you will have many who will say, Oh, I was this devout Muslim, I was raised just very similar to the story of what I should commend me where he will say I was raised in a very strict family. We were reading Quran we were studying this, we were up all night. In other words, hey, I'm coming with a lot of credibility under my belt. One that comes to mind is Sam Solomon. I've done a video rebuttal rebutting him years ago, this man comes to a stage he comes to rural America, rural Minnesota to to people who really don't know much about Muslims, right? And he tells them something as simple as reading suited Azula First off, it's sort

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of Zillow. And then he goes on to say in the alpine eco Kota. So he starts with the name of the chapter, and then he says the chapter wrong that's like me, and this person basically is telling his audience that he taught Islam for 15 dec for 15 years. In other words, this is not an average Muslim, but come to find out he has his ABCs of Islam completely screwed up he cannot pronounce the Quran correctly but you know nothing about Islam you're not going to know what's false you're not going to know what's true you have nothing to counter that with so you're just going to assume that this person is looking out for our best interest but these people are only in simply driven and

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motivated by the monetary some that comes out of this. It's not about being good hearted looking out for the well being of others. It's simply based in money this is all a lot of these people are after and you you mentioned this So Sam individual you also have this belief shoe but you never heard of him. Yeah, what another clown? Yeah, yeah, he was supposed that guy who was out there former Muslim he accepted. He became a Christian and he's on the Islamophobia circuit, right? And he's out there he was discredited. They did a report CNN they went back and they've saw the he's a liar once a Jew hating, bomb throwing terrorist. Now a devout Christian convert, warning the world. Islam is out to

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destroy you either and apply to me levena Cafaro bufala rubble repo job. That's how you recite the Quran. And the Quran. Inside Out is message before a largely positive crowd of cops and emergency responders at this South Dakota Homeland Security Conference. Trust no Muslim, especially those who organize know your enemy. Know your enemy.

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All Islamist organizations in America should be the number one enemy. All Islamist organization, Islamic Society of North America should be focused on you got that on camera? Yes, please. He is being paid $5,000 Plus expenses to speak here with your tax dollars. Being a terrorism expert has become a cottage industry since 911. The Department of Homeland Security has spent nearly $40 million on counterterrorism training just since 2006. And ex terrorist it's Walid Shabbats claim to fame, a terrorist a PLO member who bombed a branch of an Israeli bank in Bethlehem square throwing a firebomb on the bank's roof. The problem with the story with a lot of shoe bots stories, there's no

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evidence for them. And despite CNNs many requests, neither Shabbat nor his business partner have provided us with any bombings in Bethlehem square you specifically said you through the bank wasn't in the Bethlehem square you threw eggs

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closeups just added on top of that bank yes. No wreck CNNs Jerusalem Bureau went to great lengths trying to verify shoebox story. Finding the general location with a branch of Bank Leumi once stood, but not finding anyone who could remember a bombing. We contacted the bank headquarters in Tel Aviv, asking officials to search records, no records found, and Israeli police found no record. Anyone ever threw a bomb at the branch of the bank? Why would the bank not have a record? Why would the Israeli police not have a record? What would the Israeli police did have a record? I don't know? I mean, I don't know. Where do you check what dates all these things? There's another part of his

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story that doesn't check out shoe bat says he was arrested and spent two weeks in an Israeli prison. There's no record of you being in prison. I think there'd be at least an arrest record. They held you for two weeks, when the United States know you're in prison

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about me and you go to the Muscovy president and extract the records, the records are there.

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Okay, would you be willing to do so we did. And the Israeli detention center could find no record of detaining anyone with the name Wally Shiva. He's just a liar. He's just this is big business, this is money for him. There's a lot of money, there's a lot of money to be made. And let me just make for the Russians are seeing this still, it's smart. I mean, you can, you know, good Americans out there who just you know, they're taken away, you know, by much of this propaganda and the fear machine, the hate machine, but they're starting, they're starting to wake up slowly to these profiteroles of the hate. And, as you said, there are a lot of good, well intentioned people out

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there, but unfortunately, they're getting their news from the wrong avenues. And unfortunately, this is what we have displayed in front of them are people like this? What else before we get into his what else? Do you want to comment before because we got quite a few here, we're gonna go through the PD PBD comm podcast, Patrick, David podcasts, we're going to break down some of these things that they had spoken about. And it was a lot of things, right.

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So some things, and it's very difficult, you know, at that time, Daniel and them, they're getting all these things. So you can't address every single thing right? At the moment. And that's, that's what they their tactic was just to throw that machine gun method, just throw a bunch of stuff out there. And go ahead and see like, how you're going to handle it. And the short the short amount of time. It's definitely a scare tactic for sure. Yeah, it's a scare tactic. And I think they're appealing to people's emotions. They're, they're dealing with people who are, quite frankly, not I don't want to say naive, but they're ignorant of what Islam is and what Islam isn't. And I think

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oftentimes, people's minds are changed when they end up meeting Muslims firsthand. Oh, I didn't know you guys were like this. You guys are normal people, you send your kids to school to you guys go to parks, you pay your taxes, too, right? So they don't realize this until they end up having a Muslim neighbor or Muslim friend, colleague or someone that they work with. Right. One takeaway, that I think that's very, very, very profound, that I find personally is looking at the reaction from Patrick, when he's speaking and dealing with someone such as dental health, but you, right, is that Muslims? I think this message is for us Muslims is that we have to come to terms with the obvious

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fact and the obvious reality that Islam is unique. Islam is different than every other religion out there. I think what Muslims especially who are part of these big organizations, what they're what they're priding themselves on is unfortunately, trying to show the Western world how, hey, we're all we're no different. We're just like, you guys. The problem with this method, though, is that when your product looks like every other product out on the market, what makes you stand out? What's going to make that person walking down the aisle and say, what, what is this? If your product looks like every other product on the shelf, and it doesn't look different, it doesn't stand out? Where in

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the world is the incentive for someone to stop? Do the research and say, I really want to know more about this? Because some of us are completely bent on the idea of, hey, we're no different than you guys. We I think it's about time, right? I think the time is now for us Muslims to stand up tall and proud and to say, No, we're not like you guys. Now, this is not a message of hostility, we can still have community cohesion, we can still have, we can still coexist, that one does not negate the other. I think a lot of people and again, this stems from a deep self inferiority complex is that some of us muslims are truly afraid, just to express that. We don't do this in Islam. There is no

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such thing in Islam. What we're doing this we want to take every non Muslim concept, every cultural concept that's out there, and we want to appeal to a verse from the Quran, or Hadith from the sunnah or a story of the Sahaba and say, ha see

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We have a Muslim way of doing it. So sometimes we want to just Islam modify every concept, we have to come to the reality and to the turret with the obvious fact that some things cannot be Islam a fight irrespective of how you slice and dice it. I think this is better for us Muslims moving forward, instead of having to cherry pick and to show them that, hey, are you convinced now? Maybe some maybe it's not that time to convince the person right? Some people will get this somewhat I just my mind started thinking when you said that mean, you can start from the basic things like going to the bathroom, right? No, we're not like that, like you in a sense that we prefer water over

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toilet paper. But we can do both right? Flushing. So at the minute is one of the smallest things we have direction in life, purity in Islam, how it's so so important. So another thing is, we're not like, you wouldn't have to go to the party and drink alcohol.

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We don't have to intermingle. That's okay. There's no such set boundaries. Another thing is, we don't have girlfriends we marry yeah, there's no such thing as an Islamic boyfriend or girlfriend. in worship. We don't worship creation, we worship the one creator. Right, right. So those are the things but people respect us so much. And people actually, when they look into Islam, they're like, I want some of that, because it's the complete wholesome way of life is beautiful. But again, I think the question of the million dollar question is this. What's the incentive? If I'm sitting here trying to show you that, hey, I'm a carbon copy of you. Where is the incentive for that person? Now

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to be on your side? If you're just telling them, Hey, you and I are just identical. We're like, we're twins. Where is the incentive for that person? Now to make that leap from that side of the fence onto this side? It is unique in itself, it has the Apple product is an Apple product. And that's why people like Apple, right? Because it has, so you're saying like that Islam is unique in its own special very, and we have to be proud of that. We have to stop trying to convince others that no, we have a Muslim way of doing it. Sometimes there's no, there's no Muslim way of doing it. It's not Islamic at all. Gotcha. All right. So we should we get into it. Allah brackets, okay, and

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let's go ahead and start. Probably the main thing is the sanctification of violence and the idea that God will bless and even calls upon the believers to commit acts of violence under certain circumstances. Like Rasheed here is an ex Muslim. And so under Islamic law, as it's traditionally and classically formulated, he would be put to death. Muhammad said, anybody who changes his religion killed him. And this is how they pretty much started off. Patrick asked him, so what do you got against Islam? And he went specifically for what we call the penal code. And if I'm not mistaken, the penal code makes up to 3% of irritates the whole message of Islam. Yes. So what are

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your thoughts? Yeah, it's funny, but but that's not it. They did a brilliant job, Daniel, Jake, they took it back to you know, them actually following liberal sucker secularism, not Christianity, because the same thing, you know, you have many of the injunctions, they're, they're in your in the Bible. Yeah. One, there's a lot to unpack when it comes to this. First, it's not out of thin air. It's not spontaneously done. In other words, for someone like Robert Spencer to come with the first thing to bring out and to mention the concept of violence in Islam, or the concept or the idea or the HUD of the the apostasy law, it's not out of thin air, and it's not done spontaneously. That is,

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that is intentional. And that is, again, he's playing on the emotions of the the well intentioned viewer. First off when we talk about that he gives the impression that it is our job as Muslims that if we hear about someone leaving Islam, that it is our duty to meet up and go looking for this person, that is not our job. So Misconception Number one is that we as Muslims, there is no such thing as being a vigilante in especially in this case, meaning that if someone leaves Islam, it's not your job. It's not my job. This is the job of the Muslim government. There's a tribunal, there is a court, there's a judge. And again, the Obama as the Prophet alayhi salaatu, WA salaam, he says,

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Hello, Debbie. Chabot, what is the word of these who do these directives or these punishments with any kind of misconception or Shebaa or misunderstanding? Is you worded off that that's just how clear Islam makes and I think point number two that's worth mentioning is that there's a lot of nuance when it comes to the idea of apostasy. It's not just any random person, right? The quality will ask that person, why are you leaving? Some people might actually admit it's simply for monetary reasons. It's simply for the and I know this might, you know, cause people to chuckle Some people leave Islam because they want to come to the US. They want a green card. They're looking for a

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better life. It's not necessarily I'm leaving Islam because I want to art some people might genuinely leave Islam because they don't agree with it. They disagree with it. So I'm not here

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Didn't negate that sector they do exist out there, right? Point number three when we talk about the nuance the hadith is their man but della Dena who * to do that is a it's a sound Hadith. However, there are other older men that define this differently and inshallah Allah can clarify that quickly. On what about the Allahu Anhu and the Messiah? Abdullah? Ahmed or the Allahu Anhu asks me to enter Sivan Malik he says Mefa Allah NEFA min Benny Baca the people have been the bucket of the six individuals have been the bucket what happened to them, and I saw the Allahu Anhu he says do Allahu COVID a machete king, they left Islam in the joint the disbelievers right so Omar Al the Allahu Anhu

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and then he says Massa below a little Patel The only thing that ought to be done to them is for them to be killed. So Omar the Allahu Anhu said to him Salman Abu Illya min mal Balotelli Haitians. Amara, the Allahu Anhu says that if they came back to me peacefully right would be very, very beloved to me. So and I sort of the Allahu Allah was intrigued by that because it wasn't it wasn't a response he was expected from him or from Omar. So I'm not all the ins says, Yeah, Homer in Atoka, Salman firmare, Quinto Sonya and be him. Oh Omar, if this six came back to you peacefully, right? What would you do with them? He says, Are you the wily? himmelberg Bella the horrid human, he says

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that if they came back to me peacefully wanting to accept Islam, I would open the door for them that they left from meaning Islam, right? He says what Illa sugeno Or they would be put in prison now authority lmm Sofia and authority and also Ibrahim and now have a right to two schools of thought. They believe that use that tab about that meaning that this person the apostate, this person would be left in prison and they would constantly be reminded of coming back to Islam but they would not be killed. Now this is a position taken by Ibrahim and nahi and also Sophia an authority now there's more clarification because in a necessity in the Sunnah Cobra I shut up the Allahu Anhu she says

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Leia Helu them in memory in Muslim in Ellerbee, NFLs. Zen in Mohsen, Olivia patella Hamden older the hara, Allahu wa Sula, right? Three people. One is the person who's caught in adultery. The other person is someone who kills someone else intentionally. And the other person is haram is someone who's fighting a lot and His Messenger in public in public, meaning that they are rebellious. They're holding arms against the government against the Muslim government right here you can say Allah and His messenger. Now, a show Kenny, a show Kenny actually offers something here, because the person who leaves a slum he says that this right here is the specifier of the Hadith, right? The

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hadith, this here, it sheds light on the other Hadith, because here it specifies and it clarifies the Hadith that says, And the person who leaves Islam, Wild Fight in Allah and His messenger. So now we're talking about people who are rebellious people who are out in public people who are making a name for themselves. These are the people that Islam has a problem with. People are

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spreading corruption, treachery who are who are treacherous. This is considered treachery, yes, you're going, you're going against the government. Now, if you were if you leave Islam, and you apostate and you want to keep it between you, yourself and your own four walls, we don't have the Inquisition. We don't have a police that's going to come to your house and double check to make sure are you praying or not? There's expositions no hacking with the fish. There's no such thing as Mahaki minification Islam, right, the Muslim government is not going to come and make sure are you praying or not? That's between you and Allah. Now, if you come out in public, and you want to

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publicize this, then that becomes a problem. Right? Because now you're in the public sphere. Now you are what you're doing is you're in you're, you're influencing negatively other people write in as brother Daniel and even brother Jacob mentioned in their podcast, is that what they've done, what they've done is they clearly show that this is in the Old Testament. So you know, this reminds me of the verse in Matthew, where it says, How can you go to your neighbor wanting to pull the speck out of their eye while you have a log in yours? Right. So I mean, there are many ways Jake pointed that out really clearly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's, it's in your book, the law is there. And of

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course, if we're going to say that Jesus is God, then you would have to concede that that's the all love and peaceful Jesus who commanded that command. And then how would you equate then also, Daniel made it clear that this is something in the canon law, like people, some even Christian on a settled canon law, what does that How would you equate that with, with Islamic

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Islamic jurisprudence? Like what is when you say canon law? What's that equivalent to in Islam? That's like the fic the canon law? Yeah, yes. You reminded me of something here before you reminded me and I cannot

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Believe, Daniel, not Daniel, but Robert Spencer or even the other associate How many would bring this this up as an objection? Because when you look at historically speaking, there were people who were burned at the stake for doing what appeared to be what one would think, to be a noble act. So for example, William Tyndale, yeah, right. Here's a here's a scholar who translated the Bible, from Greek to English. So now the English speaking world has access to this to this Bible, right? This person was burned. for that. He was accused of what he was accused of apostasy and or heresy, he was burned. Another person they had so much hate and resentful towards him, John whitecliff, because of

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certain heresies that he uttered, or came,

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was kind of claiming out there. After being SubhanAllah. Keep this in mind after being buried for four decades. For 40 years, they decided to exhume and take out his body and have him burnt to allow his ashes to be thrown away. I mean, this much resentful. This was this wasn't like a couple, one off for 12. This happened for hundreds of years. This happened for quite a while. Yeah, the church was I don't want to say notorious, I want to be fair, we have to be fair, right? I don't want to say that. The church was notorious, but it definitely wasn't a one oddball exceptional. So can you like if you equate that with Islam? Like do we have years of people going out like the acquisitions where

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they're checking you? And then if you didn't, you know, go ahead and profess

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to be a this faith that they will kill you? Like, did you go or did the Muslims go around checking people's hearts? So know their Eman or checking their faith? Or do we have like, you know, documented where you have 1000s of people now dying? Because no, they were apostate or what? They're similar to the witch burning or Yeah, no, no, in Islam, there's a Hamdulillah. There's no such thing in Islam. Yeah, if it's between you, and a lot of them that remains between you and Allah subhanho wa taala. Now, when you bring it out to the public sphere, that becomes a problem. And a lot of people don't seem to really understand this is that when you're in the public arena, when you're in

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the public space, and someone calls you out on something, you cannot say, Who are you to judge? But do we have a lot of cases of these? No, do we have Islamically, a lot of cage just like the irritation of the hand, or the you know, the story that they bring up, you cannot even find like, you know, some have very, very small percentage, like during the line, not even a percentage. It doesn't even hit zero in the lifetime of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, there was no heat, there was no apostasy law. Yeah, from my understanding, even when the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam himself, right. There are other laws that were carried out for other reasons, right? But

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someone simply leaving Islam, no, like, we have the story of Abdullah bin Abu salah, he left Islam but then came back with men and I found that I'll be Allah Who granted him asylum, but the Prophet salallahu Salam didn't demand for him to be killed. But I think one thing a distinction and I think the barrier or the marker here, that differentiated marker is is this person being a rabble rouser out in public or not? If you're keeping it between you yourself and your own four walls, as is the case with other sins, do you? Now if you're bringing it out in public, then that becomes a different story, if you don't mind, but to you know what's funny is that Rashid Hammami comes full force him

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and his buddy Robert Spencer, they come full force thinking they're really onto something big, like they've hit the jackpot, right? Have you ever heard of sister but to her dad, but still her dad was a Christian woman who accepted Islam from Jordan in 2014. If you do just a Google research about what happened to this woman, may Allah subhanho wa Taala accept her as a martyr. Her bones were broken by her own family members, her own family members, and then her head was crushed. And I'm not trying to be cinematic here. Wallahi Allah is my witness. This is not what I'm here for. Her head was crushed by a rock. Why? Because she left Christianity and embraced Islam. So people are applying

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this now of course we Muslims wouldn't do that. You had this recent incident with the Egyptian lady. Yes, she came out and she was smiling and she testified there's nothing where the worships or the created heavens earth, Allah and Muhammad is the final messenger. This is the shahada, she has now daily Butel Busselton Allah Allah, Allah,

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will see Leah.

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And she was actually she put on the modest dress a job. And then she got kidnapped by the church. The church came kidnapped there. This is an Egypt. Yeah. And then they took her back and did what they did to like, bring her back. And she's like, you know, gloomy. She's not even looking up. And I wonder what even happened to low on him? What happened to her. Now, this is not a one off this. These are things that are happening. But you don't have major press covering this. Imagine if this was like, most. So what happened? This is a Muslim who did that right now. It'll be all over the news. Yeah, Fox News, MSNBC. I mean, you name it, it will be out there. Here's I think this, a lot

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of people might not be able to relate to this. Like for a lot of people, it's hard for them to kind of grapple with this idea. And I can somewhat understand why that is. You remember during COVID. You're in court when we had the pandemic, right. When that happened? Slowly, but surely, there was a different narrative that was coming out about the vaccines, right. And so what happened later on is the government started to clamp down on a lot of these, I guess, if you want to call them quote unquote, false narratives about the vaccine and what the vaccine does and what it doesn't do, right. So then you have fact checks. So in other words, if you're posting something that goes against the

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dominant narrative, what ends up happening is your post is going to be canceled, you're forgiven me, your posts will either be deleted, your account will be closed. In other words, there's, there's there's going to be consequences. If you're posting something that goes against the general dominant narrative. What dominant narrative is that is, hey, vaccines are good for you. We're doing this, we're mandating these vaccines because we're looking out for the best interest of our citizens, and we want them to be vaccinated. Anything other than that is not tolerated. It's no different if the government is looking out for the health of its citizens, right. And I know some people might

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chuckle at that, right. Regardless of where you're at on that discussion or that conversation, let's just assume forgiveness for argument's sake, that the government is truly looking out for the best health of its citizens or its constituents. Let's assume that, okay. Islam here prevents a person who is a rabble rouser, who is spreading false information, who was in sight and violence, inciting violence against the government, or who is negatively influencing other people trying to drag them from Islam because as Muslims, it's an it's an obvious giver. It's basic Islam that the only safe door out of this world as believing there's no God worthy of worship except Allah, and that Muhammad

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is His final messenger. So if the government is worried about the well being of its citizens here in the world, we say, Islam does this censorship in the public arena, because it is safeguarding its citizens in the afterlife from eternal hell. So why is it fair here in people today, when this was happening, Edie people were reporting, you have a lot of health officials who would report an account, right? to fact check why because they don't agree with a dominant narrative, Oh, this guy has to be censored. So this idea of, again, this idea of free speech, there's really no such thing as absolute free speech. And people can understand like when you talk about treason and treachery,

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and when you define what is treachery, violation of faith, betrayal, of trust, treason? So example of somebody who's coming out and maybe you don't agree with everything of the Constitution, but now you're coming in and becoming an opponent to the Constitution and trying to get people to come and say, change it against it. Right. What do you think they're going to do to you? Yeah, that's the same. It's the same concept to happen. It's the same concept. Yeah. So that people can kind of watch someone understand I want to bring out one main public speaker or a someone who's also been asked this question, get your content, get your reaction to it, and see, what what's your thoughts on?

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Sure. Sister, you said the Quran says that a person was born as a Muslim, and he changes the religion. He's good to that sister. I don't know if any of us in the Quran, do point out in the Quran.

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There is no such verse in the Quran, talking about that a person who is a Muslim, and then we change the fate who should be put to death. But there are certain rulings. But if you go back to the issue, the fear of the prophet who masala Salam, we know that when the Prophet in the medina there was one Saba, who came and said, that when the Prophet did go and kill these cafes, they're causing problems that they'll meet. So one of the Sabbath said that please forgive my brother, and the Prophet didn't kill him.

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And later on that person accepted Islam. So it's not a general rule that any person who's a Muslim who becomes a moot that he has to put to that the ruling is if a person who is a Muslim, who becomes a malted, who changes his faith and propagates against the religion of Islam, then the penalties that and

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He says in most of the countries for example, if in the country of India, there's a citizen of India, who says the secret prints of the Indian army with the enemy, the Indian law will say you should put to death or life imprisonment is the same run America same in UK for apostasy.

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The same law that is the that if you sell your some secret of the country, either death penalty or life imprisonment. So in Islam, it is not a normal ruling that a person who is a Muslim when it becomes a non Muslim will be put to death. Only if he propagates against Islam and conspire against Islam then is the ruling. What do you thought so this is a mainstream?

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How would you Dr. Zakir Naik? Every Muslim knows him you know how nice come on What a question he doesn't who doesn't know him, right? So him commented on that so people can see like, okay, it's pretty much a straight answer throughout. What lie It's quite logical. Yeah, it's really quite logical if you're keeping to yourself so people can see like, okay, it's like you have your interpretation I have is pretty much standard response, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else you want to know? I just I think a lot of people have this other idea that they're pushing is that all Muslims? Like my mom's side of the family? My mom's side of the family is Christian. My father's

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side of the family is Muslim. Right? So this idea that oh, Muslims can't be friends with Christians, right? We can't be friends with with with Jews. There's a difference between someone being a colleague, a friend at work, someone you go to school with, and someone will we're talking about taking them as allies. This is this is a there's a huge distinction between the two, this has nothing to do, right with being you know, our religion, we have to be nice. We have to be even if we differ on the grounds of faith, like my mom's side of the family, you're telling me that I'm conspiring to get rid of them. Why? Because they're Christians. No, I still have to love them, I

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have to respect them, I have to give them the rights and so on and so forth. Right. And the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam Contrary to popular belief by a lot of these Islamophobes Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was that he dealt with people differently. At times, you'll find he was, and this is what wisdom is, by the way, the prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam during his Sera, you'll find there were times when he when he was passive. At times, he was assertive, and at times, he was aggressive. And each and every man and male figure and this is kind of my area, by the way, this is you as a man, this is what you have to understand. There are times in life that are going to require

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an necessitate of you to be passive. Sometimes you have to be assertive. And sometimes you have to be aggressive, not because you want to be aggressive, but because of the moment dictates that you be aggressive. So there's a place in time for everything. I'm afraid what the Tao of America has done is that we're starting to be viewed as these pushovers as these Yes, men. And we just have to smile when someone hits us. And then we have to say, Islam is about peace, and then we give them the other cheek. I'm sorry, that is not Islam. This is against human nature. Right? The Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. There were certain people he dealt with, right, but depending on how they dealt with him,

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so I'll just give you an example. Right? He was invited by a Jewish man, the Prophet alayhi salatu salam was invited by a Jewish man. Do you know what what he was invited for? Who was not invited for this tantalizing five star restaurant? He was invited for a Halloween Wahab share. Right? He had it and anyhow, we'll have a shade barley bread and like some very old, that it's a dish that is so old, it's older can be smelled. So the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam went and he accepted the invitation of a Jewish man. He didn't say with all the things that you Jews have done to me. No, I won't. He even went to the Jewish woman who ended up putting some right poison in his food. But she

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he accepted her invitation as well. Right. So the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi, wasallam dealt with people differently. You had the example, we spent a lot of time on this. We'll get to the next one in a minute. Sure. You had the procession of the funeral. It was a Jewish man and the Prophet, peace be apart. He stood up, didn't he? Yeah, this is a Jewish man, his companions are saying this is pretty much a Jew. So isn't that a human soul? Some of the some of the companions. They were an Al qadisiya From what I remember. And some of the companions stood up. And then some of them were surprised. Well, why are you standing up? They said, there was a funeral that passed by the prophet,

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I saw that there was salam. And then he stood up. And when asked he said, la said, NAFSA, they said, is Jew, it's a Jewish soul. This, the rebuttal was the answer was, is it not enough? Is it not a human being? Yes and no will be for example, he says, how the allergen EBA that it's permissible to do that? Honor and not because you're honoring the Jewish faith or the Christian faith? No, it's because you're honored because Allah says Allah Ramana bene, Adam, we have indeed honored the human Adamic being Yes, not necessarily specifically Muslims, right. Nakatsuka Ramona, Benny Adam, we have indeed on Earth, the Adamic human being and these guys would have you live in life like you know,

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Muslims are barbaric.

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ranges violent they hate Jews and crude they just all about you know, sticking one to you and your back we want the best for instance, we want the best for everyone we do but don't think that you're going to don't think that you're going to come at us sideways and we're going to tell you here's the other cheek but i do i mean it's it's the truth that if you want peace, you got to have you get the peace from the owner of peace have created heavens and earth and doing Islam will get you that way peace acquired by submitting your will to the credit of heavens and earth. Is this correct? Yeah, yes. Okay, let's move on. He didn't he saved in the law, tooth for tooth and he said no, you turn

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the other cheek. Jesus stopped the Old Testament. They don't have a New Testament in Islam. They have worse than the Old Testament they have something that Muhammad never corrected. So today we have to do jihad because difference with Christianity because Jesus came in he stopped the Old Testament. He stopped every he didn't stand the lady who committed adultery. Okay, so that's the next, or the varia bullets that he's shooting. This is another one that you know, it's quite, it's quite laughable, honestly, and I don't say this to be out of mockery or to be condescending, but it's quite laughable for someone such as Rashid Hammami, who has dedicated his entire life, his

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entire career, all of his time and energy to to refute in Islam. And to to to to, as you said, spit bullets at Islam, how he's not aware of this story being fabricated, he lives without sin, let him cast the first stone, that that was not in the original of John and that that's why the brackets are there. And it says this is not found in the oldest or the most reliable manuscripts. This story of the adulterous woman is only found in the Gospel of John, right, in Bart Ehrman, who I'm sure you're very familiar with people, of course called the gospel books, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Well, they call them Matthew, Mark, Luke and John because we don't know who wrote these books. And there's

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no point calling them Sam, Fred, Jerry and Harry. I mean, they're, they're written by people we don't know they were written by they are anonymous. You might not think so because they have the title. The Gospel According to Matthew, whoever put that title on it was an editor later, the followers of Jesus were Aramaic speaking peasants from Galilee, lower class men who were not educated. In fact, Peter and John in Acts chapter four, verse 13, are literally said to be illiterate. They couldn't read and write, of course, not. They were fishermen. They didn't go to school. The vast majority of people in the ancient world never learned to read, let alone write, and

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their native language was Aramaic. These books are written in Greek, by highly educated, rhetorically trained writers who are skilled in Greek composition. May Allah guide them to Islam, by the way, I mean, he here you have Bart Ehrman, who's arguably the world's leading expert when it comes to Biblical textual criticism. He says that this was not found in the original manuscripts. And it was not put in the Gospel of John until the 10th century. Right. And here you have someone such as, such as Rashid Hammami, saying, Oh no, you know what this put an end. You have centuries of

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law abiding in Jewish people, the Jewish civilization, living according to the law of God, suddenly, we're going to put an end to that because of a fabricated story. And the other story is, Oh, give to Jesus what belongs to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, suddenly, these two passages are going to nullify centuries of living in upholding God's law. Right? I find this to be quite laughable. The other thing too, is that when you try to when he when he says something about Jesus no longer applying the law, that is an utter lie, that's a lie. That is an otter liar. There is no such thing of that. In fact, each and every passage when Jesus speaks about the New Testament, in fact, when

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Jesus in one passage, I believe it's in Matthew when he's asked, I'm sorry, that's in Matthew, yes. When he's asked about the kingdom of heaven, he refers to the law, who referred he says, Not one jaw should when not one job of that law should be moved. So Jesus, oftentimes when he's talking about the kingdom of heaven, or eternal life, he never says, Don't worry, I'm here to die for your sins. He constantly replies with keeping the commandment keep the commandments, which is the same thing as we Muslims. So it's very laughable as to how he would use this and say that

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the lawn no longer applies. If you want to get a better understanding fe.

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Edie as to what happened, simply look at where the where the letter of James was supposed to be the Lord's brother, just look at where his letter is shoved all the way back in the New Testament. Does not does that not raise many red flags? It should. But do you know why it's back there? Because it praises keeping the law? Yes, it speaks

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about keeping the law and that if you're that your deeds, if you're just saying it, then it's in vain. Because what you say and what you profess and proclaim, it has to be backed up by your deeds, right, and so forth. Here's the thing. For 1000s of years, the Jews have been living under God's law. This is not theory. This is not a trial period. We're talking about generations, one after the other grew up believing that the way to God the way to eternal, to eternal pleasure and bliss with God is by keeping the commandments. Now, does God know that the Jews and Christians are going to fall short? Yes. So believing in God in believing that God is a loving God, these are not mutually

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exclusive that does that make sense? So believing that there's a law that you have to apply does not negate that God is a loving God. So for example, when God in the Old Testament talks about all of these commandments, whether it's stone in the adulterous, the adulterer, whether it's the regardless of what cam that you have, in the Old Testament, I got a question for you, the person that God who revealed all of those commandments, was that a loving God?

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Yes, it was a loving God, right? In other words, the response that we get today is Christians conveniently say, oh, that's the Old Testament. See, they're depicting God, like a person who was in his early teens did some very silly things. And all of a sudden, they've grown up, they've matured, they moved on, and they're no longer that person, I got news for you. This is not how we deal with God. God is not looking back at the Old Testament in this, some people might not find this to be appropriate. But I'm gonna do it just so it's clarified better. God is not looking at the Old Testament and saying, Whoa, I was awfully rushed back then I was I was awfully rough. Back then I

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was awfully harsh back then. I've changed I guess that way really doesn't work anymore. You can't do that. Because when we're talking about God's love, and this gets to be a little bit intricate, when we're talking about God, being a merciful, loving God, this is this is God's attribute, and God's attributes are eternal. So it's beyond me as to how Christians have a problem with Allah being a loving and merciful God, and still have in certain penal codes that are a little bit harsh, but they're okay with God revealing these laws in the Old Testament. Yes, you can say that's the Old Testament God, but God's nature, fundamental nature, which is loving and being merciful. This is a

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part of who he is. This is not a commandment. So if God can that love and God if he can reveal those laws 1000s of years ago, why are you looking at Islam and Allah Now saying that, Oh, this is no longer a loving God? If he did it before? Why can't he do it again?

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So people have to get this idea out of their mind that God's love and following the law are mutually exclusive. They're not. These two have read, they have run in parallel in unison in tandem, for 1000s of years in the Old Testament. Why is it suddenly a surprise and a shock? Now? Does that make sense? Because people will say, Oh, we're under grace. We Muslims believe in the concept of grace. The Prophet Muhammad Ali Salatu was Salam mooneyes. When he was with his companions, he says, no one will enter paradise with his or her deeds, the Companions, they said, Not even you a Messenger of Allah, He said No, only that Allah embraces me with His grace. So we believe that our deeds, it's a

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way it's simply a way to show God. I tried. I did my best, I did what I could. But it's not to say that your deeds equate God's blessings because our deeds, they're finite, God's pleasure, God's blessing, the eternity in the laws company that's infinite. It's never ending. One last thing when it comes to the law, please. When he says here that God's law stop, what do you do with the sea, there are crimes that were committed during the lifetime of Jesus, there were crimes that were committed during the Old Testament, in God, it's funny because God of the the God of the Old Testament, had wanted to have a say, in each and every aspect of your life, how to deal with your

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crops, how to divorce, how to get married, what to do, when you sell what to do when you buy when a woman is on her menses, when, when a woman is off, being ceremonially clean, and so on and so forth. So the Lord of the Old Testament is literally identical to the Lord of the New Testament. Right? So the million dollar question here is, what do you do with those crimes that were committed during the Old Testament that still perpetuate with us today? How do you deal with those? Is this not Christianity turning its back on God's divine law? That should be literally enveloped in wisdom in infinite wisdom? Are you guys not turning your backs on that and saying, Well, we have democracy now

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we have a better way of dealing with these problems. Is this not what Christianity is doing? Yes. This is the point that Daniel was making that people them and others today are not living by actually the tenants and principles of Christianity. They're more going towards liberalism. And they're getting overcome by

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that so this is not You're not coming at it from a Christian axe traditional sense. You're coming at it from liberal secularism. I just I really urge each and every Christian to kind of pump their brakes a bit when they say this Yeah, oh, we no longer believe in the Old Testament laws well, that that God of the Old Testament he gave you last to live in abide by when you say that we're no longer going to apply those you say because what time you have been forgiven me what's his name? Yeah, I mean, a provocateur Yeah, the hater product provocateur when he says, oh, that's the Old Testament, you can't just rub it off like this. You can't just conveniently dismissed that and thrown in the

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closet and throw the Bible under the bus. You cannot do that you have certain crimes that were committed back then. But guess what? They're still being committed today. But back then those Jews dealt with these crimes according to God's laws. Today, you're dealing as Christians, you guys are dealing with these same crimes moral they are or not, with a completely different way. With a tool of whatever you want to call it. Democracy, liberalism, you have it. I don't think that's something to be proud of. I don't think that's something that should be celebrated. What I would ask we had a lot of people from Morocco, who were really questioning they were like what I mean, right now

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somebody's going back to what he was saying earlier, but even this just being a fake Christian, I believe he's somebody who if you go back and we were implored people from Morocco to go do some investigating to try to find we'd like to talk to his father, actually, you know, he said his father was an Imam, and whatnot. And he's bringing all this stuff up. It's the classical story. We were born we were brought up with devout Muslims. And suddenly we saw the light and Jesus spoke to me and now I'm a crier, I think. I think there should be an investigation to find his family to find his father. I second that I second that there that and get some people from Morocco to go ahead and see

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if they can talk with his family to really see, like the Wali Chabad and these other guys to really find him out. To show what impostor he is, because this guy is really he's spreading a lot of hate corruption misinformation, he's not doing the world a good service and as a as an as an apologist as a polemicist. It's I'm not gonna lie, it's somewhat of a disgrace. I mean, this is we're not talking about someone in his early 20s, early teens doing this, we're talking about someone who spent decades doing this, but he's still making very silly ABC rudimentary mistakes when it comes to Islam. Yeah. So let's continue on. But he had many wives and 11 of them. One of them, she was nine

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years old, he was 53, I am 50, I cannot marry a girl that has nine years old. You cannot that's abuse. And Muhammad did that we do someone, let me let me finish let me finish this. He took he raided a Jewish tribe keep going. He sounds extremely, extremely desperate. Like he's, he's got so much of this, this this hate inside of them inside of him. First, let us take this, by the way, I've done a video about this, on my buyer permission. On my channel. On my channel, we've covered a lot of these, I've covered this subject specifically on and I want people to know we're just basically touching upon, you know, in a short amount of time touching upon some of these things. But if

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someone wants to go deeper into these topics, I mean, because that's what they want to do. They want to just throw it out there and stun you shock you and then when these things are impacted, you'll be like, Okay, it's a totally different perspective now. Yeah, so I've done an in depth video about this. It's your profit married a nine year old it's on top set of project to a B S I R A and then project you'll find it on there. But let us I don't know where to start with this because it could be it can go in so many dimensions and different angles, and there's a lot there's so many different ways you can approach this. Yes, yes. One of the things that when Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi

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wa sallam that when he married I shot up the Allahu anha. First off, you have some Muslims who believe she was nine and you have some Muslims who take the position that she was actually 18 and not nine. For me as a Muslim though. What about Othmani? Been Faruqi makes a good case he's not changing anything that he talks about that there's some conflict of from her so he's not in the Quran. It's not in the Hadith. Again, we're not whitewash anything. sure what it is if it's if it's that status, no problem, but shake with Ronnie before he talks about it. Just summarize, I hope I don't chop this up. But you can go watch his video on it. And he talks about how he didn't have

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calendars at the time how they didn't have and he doesn't say she's 18. But he just says look, we don't get this in Iran or for the province of Assam. We get it from her. Then we get also from her sister. That puts her death at a later age. So he says if she's 910 11 You know what I mean? It doesn't affect your faith. Now it's like if you at the end, if you believe she doesn't have any feel Yeah, that's that's the illogical it doesn't have any theological bearing or any theological implications for me. If she was nine. I'm still happy being a devout Muslim if she was 18 I'm still happy being a Muslim. But here's one

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thing that people have to really, really seriously keep in mind. We Muslims, when we speak about the age of Egypt, we are being descriptive, not prescriptive. We're not out here because people when they talk about this, it says if you have all these crazy nutcase fathers who are dying to marry their daughters at the age of nine, because they want to, quote unquote, imitate Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu has said, This is not what we're doing. That's not happening to know no one is if someone came to mind, if someone came asking for my daughter, which is funny, because my daughter is, is going, literally, she'll be nine next year. I'm not going to marry her to someone, even in his early

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20s. I don't think no, no muscle right now is gonna do that. That's what I'm saying. And so people are latching on to this as if it's the be all and end all is the jackpot. And oh, Islam cannot be true. No, Islam can be true. Not understanding the wisdom behind certain things doesn't mean it never happened. Like when you're at an intersection in the middle of nowhere in rural America, and you see a stop sign. You don't say, No one must have put this here. No, you don't understand the wisdom as to why it is here in the middle of nowhere, but you believe deep inside that it was put there by someone. But you don't immediately assume and say, Oh, this must have just spontaneously

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landed here. Right? So that's kind of the same thing. So I want to really reiterate that one more time. When we speak about this. We're not being prescriptive. We're just being descriptive. We're just describing a situation that happened. This is something that happened during the lifetime of the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. There are again, there are a lot of variables to consider. One of the many things is that the Prophet alayhi salatu salam was accused of a lot of things. He was accused of being a liar by his enemies. He was accused of being a soothsayer, he was accused of being a sorcerer. He was accused of a lot of a lot of things, right. A lot of horrible things. Were

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the one thing he was not accused of, is I don't even want to say to out of respect and reverence for Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, he wasn't accused of being a P. I'm just gonna say the P word. I in some people might even laugh at this. No.

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I don't even want to say yeah. Muslims, you have some Muslims enemies. Never ever use that against him. No. Isn't that something that just now came up in the 21st century? It is to go back. This is very essential this Yes. 100 200 years ago, they weren't even bringing this up. Right. Yeah. The first this is the modern day age argument. Now, yes, it didn't pop up until it's in, I'd say about the turn of the 19th century, early 19th. century, late 19th century, forgive me, early 20th century gibberish, it couldn't come up because then you'd have to go ahead and condemn the founding fathers that was that was that was quite common to marry daughters off at a very, very early age. So it

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wasn't even at that time to Islamophobes. At that time, if there were, they wouldn't even bring this up. There were many things that you could attack and criticize. You're talking about his enemies who tried everything at his time, 14 years ago to discredit him. They never brought this up. They couldn't use it, but they never He accused them of a lot of things. Yeah. Right. They accuse him of a lot of things. But they did not want to accuse him of how can this man be a prophet from God, as all of you are claiming, but at the same time, marry a girl at the age of nine. But oh, yeah. Rocha, was the sister was one of the daughters of Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam. She was married at

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the age of 10. Right? I think I think the problem is this is that we really, some people, when they speak, they really give you the impression that the world started to exist 5060 years ago. Hello, please, for the love of God. So this is called the presentism. Right presents is a judgment by now the context of yes, if, listen,

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if average Americans were exhumed and resurrected, and came back from the graves 100 years ago, and they saw how we, as Americans were living or are living today, they would all have a heart attack and be exactly where they're where they're at right now. And I'm not trying to be satirical or funny. But they would literally have an instantaneous heart attack and not believe that this is the America that they once lived, lived in. Yeah, you have the just to push this even further. We can go on and on. But I mean, there's just so many points here. You can look at the the Mary the mother of Jesus. The Catholic Encyclopedia has 12 Doesn't it? Yeah. And then and then Joseph was twice 90. I

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think now yeah. 18 I have twice double the age of the Prophet saw some. Yeah, he's be upon him. So how do you how do you rectify that? And then some even say like, the whole got her. They think they say God got her pregnant. So he's got I mean, I mean, you get the point in some even argue that you get that point? Yes. Yeah. That God actually at 12 Age got her pregnant. So is God what you're claiming Prophet Muhammad is? Is that thinking out of your mind? And by the way, by the way, it was a woman and I mentioned this in my video, it was, it was someone it was someone who came to the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam proposed and Isha as a suitable candidate. Now I listen. I was

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already engaged to be married. Yes, right. Yes. Yeah. And someone else he didn't go after? No, no, but at least Salatu was someone else recommended? Yes, it was Hola. been tagging who came and tried to intercede as a chef, a chef

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Hassan Hassan, but the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa sallam also some other might say that, that he saw her SallAllahu wasallam in a dream and he says in Kandahar them in India, he only he, when he would see her in a dream that he was married to her, he would say that if this is from Allah, then it will definitely transpire. Yeah. And then you have the what she actually went on to Okay, so we know that she was engaged already. That was the norm, the culture of the time. It was something if you go back even in this country, you had Delaware, I believe it was seven, Massachusetts 10 When you break down and you look at the age of marriage here in the United States, so I said, if you seven you have some

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as a sign some as some 910. And then if you don't want to go that far back, and this was on the laws and still on some of the laws today, if you want to go just a little bit back you got sweet 16 You heard the sweet 16 Why did they say sweet 16? She's ready supposed to be ready for marriage? Yeah. I think in the Latino cultures is sweet. 15 Oh, okay. Yeah. So and that's, that's just what is that? That's maybe like few years back 10 a decade? Not even a decade. Yeah. Because they were thinking okay, now she's at this age, she's married. She's marriage age. Right. But if the more further you go back, you got kings and, and queens and you have Catholic, the church and everybody they were

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actually it was in line at that age, right at puberty. And this is what it is Islamic. What is its maturity and puberty. Yeah, that's

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the guiding light on this. That's the factor because a lot of people they you know, what's funny, as, here's how far we've gotten with this is that people when they look at the age of 18, people have to keep in mind that 18 is not a biblically inspired number.

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In Judaism, Christianity in Islam, its maturity, puberty, that is the benchmark or for getting married. So people have to stop idolizing this 18 As because some people when when it's a relationship, yes, it's the law. But someone coming from a faith background, not sure why you would look at that 18 as a sacred number into Oh, my God, that's something that that they put in place, right legislators put in place believing that that's the ideal age, but it's not a you know, and again, the world did not come into existence 5060 years ago, there are different cultures, there are different norms that are different. The world operates quite differently from culture to culture.

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I've given this example before, if you look into history, you had generals, often you think of a general today, what's the average age of a general today? You would never think that a general would be like 1789 years old? Oh, not at all. But we have generals in Islam at that age, right? Why middle fatty, what was he like? 20. He would take us somewhere on 20 years old 21, something like that. During the time of the Prophet was Mr. Ben Zaid, how old was 18 I think I think he was 17 he was in lead in the US lien army. You got 1718 years old. They're in the basement playing Xbox. It's all relative. Right? It's a relative they can't you got woman can't cook an egg. You know them. You

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can't boil an egg. Right? Oh, boy. But so the maturity levels, you cannot judge it with the context of today. With if, if you're taking it back to that time, it's totally different times. It's different. I know. I like what you said. Nobody is trying to marry their daughter off at this point. Yeah, I mean, we have to stop making it sound as if you have these Muslims all around the world dying to marry their daughters off at the age of nine. It's not happening. Yeah. And understandably so times are different. Wow. So but at the end of the day, though, let us keep in mind, it is a marriage. Here's the fun ever had a girlfriend. Here's the funny thing. Here's here. Let me say this

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for a minute. Because I think this really has to be said. Today people are people of varying different faith backgrounds know that fornication is an abomination. Fornication, live in have an intimacy with a different person, prior to marriage outside the scope of marriage or the union of marriage is considered an egregious sin in the sight of God. Okay, you have some people who are living in sin happily, they're actually unaware that they're even committed an atrocious sin of this caliber, but then we'll look at the the life of the prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam or perhaps even look at this marriage and complete dismay. Oh, my God, he married. Yeah, the key word is married.

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They are married. It's not a marriage, a marriage that you have you're involved in. It's not something that you're used to and hey, guess what? It's not something we're we contemporary Muslims are used to either, but I'm not going to deny it. But the thing is, just look at how influenced we are by our how we're shaped by our cultural norms is that you have people today who are living out of wedlock boyfriend and girlfriend that's like the cultural norm today. But they still you know, they preach God and I know I'm going to be accused of being judgmental here. But this is normal for you. But then you're going to look at the marriage of Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam and really

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find a problem with that.

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I'm not sure that really I mean you have you have when just an elementary school is like right now you just see what's happened. It's really a shame. It's really it's something that's sad, really

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said six. I mean, what the average US

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sixth graders, what does that tell? What's the average age for 1011 1011 1011 years old, they're promiscuous. They're having a boyfriends they're having sad, you know. And a lot of the parents are accepting this boyfriend girlfriends or letting John come over hanging out, you know, or letting their girls Sally go to Bob and Bill and hanging out with the boys in the basement. And so what you think's happening, that's what happens, this is exactly what happened. And I think we Muslims have to learn, we do not and I don't say this to be arrogant. We Muslims have to learn from the mistakes of Christians, that when you stop applying, and holding sacred, what ought to be sacred, then you

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start having these problems, because then when you have these relationships outside of marriage, you get what you get the boyfriend, girlfriend, and then what then you have women having children outside of wedlock, and then intimacy becomes very cheap for intimacy becomes very, very cheap. And now you have men don't want to partake in any responsibility because they know they can get intimacy. Extreme, not cheap, for free. So there's no there's no incentive to be in a marriage. There's no incentive. And this is why this whole idea of although I don't want to drag feminism in here, but this idea of you do you when you do what a man does, well, that's going to come with

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that's going to come with it's going to backfire into kind of I think it's going to avalanche into something a lot more sinister fraud. There was the best friend the Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him today. Who was the father? Where's the father? This whole thing? Yeah. I mean, he's okay with it. But you're not you come 15 Centuries later. You have a problem with it. But her father wasn't. Yeah, I think it's time Yeah, I think we can last thing I want to touch upon because we got a lot more to cover at the point who she went on to become I mean, you've had people who accepted Islam. They had this wrapped around their mind and couldn't figure it out. They went and

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studied her life. They saw her being one of the greatest the greatest scholars of Islam they saw because if someone's oppressed, if somebody's you know, how they have this image in their mind, you know what I mean? At the end, the man dies and the writing books against him, none of his wives, it's hard enough to satisfy want to satisfy all his wife, none of them came out to speak negatively about him. And the love when he was mentioned, when they asked when they would come to find out and studied, you know, behind the veil, they will comment to learn from her. They say Tell us something about him that he could degrade she start tearing she'd start crying, not a tears, tears of like

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resentment, tears of like, I miss you. I love you, you know what I mean? And, and people would go women, they'd go study her life. They'd come accept Islam and then have a child and name her daughter. After Aisha she was she had a school she had the only there are books about there about Yanni *a ha Isha, the jurisprudence of Aisha like her Messiah key at the Battle of the Allahu, and that had to do with her. So she was a school of thought in her own and as you said, male scholars. And guess what, that's another thing too, I think that's worthwhile mentioning is that she was young. So she was able to take kin to wisdom, a lot of that knowledge had she been in her 40s

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and 50s. With respect to 40 year old women and 50 year old women, we're not bashing them. But when she's young, she had this eidetic memory and she was she was ready to take all that knowledge in is in this one and now the wisdoms scholars talk about one of the wisdoms Yes, for also marrying the prophets. Now, now she went on to live and she went out to narrate, yes, her, her intimate detail with him, you know, how he how he was, in every which way faster, and the majority, the majority of the ahaadeeth that come to us from his household, like the very personal matters, that that that happened between a wife and her husband, or between a couple, this is all being brought to us via

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shout out the Allah one, the overwhelming majority of Hadith that we have from beta Naboo is from I shall the Allahu anhu, not other mothers, levers. I mean, this is deep. This is really deeply profound. And this is why some onomah are convinced that this is that the dream that he saw, it was actually it was a dream, it was a foretelling of him to be married to how shall the Allahu Allah Okay, let's as an example, Hari, let's continue on a Jewish tribe. He killed the whole family of a newly bride called Sofia. And he took her as a wife the same time he was returning to Medina, would you put that as a role model for me today in the 21st century? Okay, I see. I'll let you go from

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here. But there's actually a prophecy in this story in the with the wife of Sophia, but go ahead and take it away. We can get into that prophecy that he obviously didn't mention, because he's coming out of twisted angle. Well, that's the thing too. I mean, he just here's the thing. If there's one thing that people can take from this is this and I think it's really important, right? There's a scene that says a text

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Without a context is a pre text for a proof text. I know that sounds very confusing write a text without a context is a pre text for a proof text meaning that it's a pre text for de contextualization for for basically making the text out as you want it to be yeah right there story of Sofia all the Allahu Ana is that when Hi but was done in Heber happened right after sun. Alto de la we're getting context. Yes. Which obviously none of them are giving. Well, he's scholarly references contexts. I don't think he knows what that is. Yeah, that's the problem. So Sofia are the Allahu anha before even the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam came to Medina, her own father, who

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even up in her? Yes, her uncle? Yes. They went out when the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam first came to Medina. They both went out to verify if this is he the prophet that are waiting for it or not. I want people to pay. This is really deep now because why are they there in this area? That's another thing before we get there, what? Anticipating what profit, right? I want to think yes, they're there. And now they're going out because they know the signs they know. But out of all the places in the world. Yeah, that is another million dollars. But just as in the Bible, also Becca Mecca. Yeah, everything is there. It's in the Bible, the mounts of Parana posts, they're in the

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Bible, right? It's coincidence. No, it's right there in front of you guys. So they they they they went out they fair, they did see that. Okay, this is the long awaited prophet that they're waiting for. And by the way, even though we're kind of going down a different avenue here, there is a text of this similarity or of this sort that's found in the New Testament. When the rabbi's were asking, Are you John the Baptist? They said no, you said Are You the Messiah? They said no, they said, Are you that profit that profit? So the first answer actually, I want to plug once you said that Dr. Brett Lorenz Brown, he actually mentioned this in his book, godded. He talks about that argument,

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this is a this is a Christian atheists went to Christianity came to Islam, except that I just happen to have his book A good friend of mine. Exactly. That verse, that situation he brings up quite often very powerful. Is it? Is it like you said, I think two things here to mention, is it just really mere coincidence that out of all the places in the world they come to Yathrib? Yeah, they come to Medina, they migrate to Medina from where Allah knows best. The second thing is, as you mentioned earlier, is that this this is known so the Jews first century Palestinian Jews were still waiting for another Messiah, they were waiting for that profit, and that profit is Prophet Muhammad

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Sallallahu it was him. So when Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam after his advent to Mecca when he migrated to Mecca after being persecuted out of his own home in Mecca. He goes to Medina when he gets to Medina, yes. And then her the father of Sofia Hui, they both go to verify is this them long awaited prophet? We're anticipating or not when they saw him and they knew that this was he, they came back in utter disappointment. Now you would think why if that's the one why the golden question why why? Because the new booyah prophet hood was taken from the Jews single and given to the Arabs so the arrogance kicks in he's not one of us. Right? And in Sofia is not our skin don't our color

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are people from our tribe, right? Yeah, that's that racism now? And that yeah, that's this is one of innocence. I think, although we can kind of take this in many other directions. Is that the truth? It can come from where you expect that the least Wow, sometimes your own hostile enemy can tell you something that's truthful you don't disregard it simply because they're your enemy. Go back so people they don't miss this point. She went to go see if this was a messenger. They had that whatever they had remnants of the Torah, they look in, okay, this is it. This is the description. They come back. She's listening to this, right. She's listening to this conversation. And the uncle

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says to him, Is this the one he confirmed? This is the one Yep. And then he confirmed that problem. Muhammad is the messenger that they're waiting to come? Yes. And so we're getting this from her? Yes. Correct. She's, she's narrating this. Yeah, it's mind blowing his mind. This is like a mom who's like when you hear this, it's amazing. It sounds very different than what she says right? Yeah. He's, he's, I'm not gonna He's a good actor, though. I will give him a five star review. For his acting skills. He's very animated. He's ready to start weeping. Yes. All right. So continue on with story. Okay. So Sofia, all the Allahu Ana she says that usually when my uncle sees me, He's

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just excited, elated to pick me up and play with me. She said this time around was very, very different. Very unusual. Is that when they came back can Elaine. Right? They were very tired. They were distraught. They were done right. And then she overhears one speaking to the other. Well, he's he right? He says yes, he said

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As well what do you find in your heart? He says, I doubt what to whom advocate. The enmity is the only thing I have left for him. Wow. Yeah. And another narration actually, by the way, she she sees a vision. She sees a vision she has a dream. Right and one of the narrations sloughi out of the Allahu Allah has a dream. And what she sees in this dream is the loon. I want to say it in French. I don't know why the Moon fallen in her lap. Now she goes later on, and she says this and she repeats it to her the husband that she had at the time, she says, I see the moon falling in my lap. So he ematic automatically slaps her right center that in the face beat her up pretty bad. Yeah, she loves

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you still had that bruise. Yes, I love the Allahu on him. And she says and then, you know, he basically, he translate, he interprets the dream and to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam as this the moon here is basically the leader of Medina, the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. So it was just a matter of time. Right? And again, I listened to that prophecy right there that I was talking. Yes, yeah. So in this dream, she didn't know what it was. She didn't know what this meant. So she went to her husband, he actually interpreted a dream that the morning that's resembled the province of Assam, it's good. It was the area that they were in

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the area that they were in that it was going to come over this area that that was the conquering of the area, and I and then she would be she would come she would be marrying him. He said what do you want with this? The king of the Arab he ends up beating her up? Yeah. So this is a prophecy being fulfilled. This is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. firsthand. Yeah. Firsthand narrated from her. Yeah, he skipped all this conveniently. Conveniently, yeah. So we can see there's a big lesson here you see like you were saying when you when you take the text out of context, you don't put it in his proper

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in that again, coming from it's beyond me as to why he will say, Well, I am very, I'm very disappointed. Because you listen, we can we can differ, but we can still have some integrity. Yeah, but it's hard. It's hard to really it's hard to have a fruitful conversation with with someone who lacks just the basic decent, just a Metacam of integrity. Someone such as a shield. What happens after this now so he confirmed they confirm that he is the messenger, they're gonna go ahead and beat he says he's going to be an enemy in mind till the death because he's not. He's not one of us. Now he's Yep, he's not someone from their descendants, right? Yep. So what happens from there? So

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the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. Fast forward and fast forward to

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when I was when I was with high bar right, where the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam later on ends up marrying

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but before that, before that, so he marries her, but before that didn't he tried to assassinate the province of Islam, then he tried to kill him. He became the enemy of state who had been Yeah, he had been locked up. That was that was the thing though. all all all of them. The first tribe was been appointed. Then after that by the end of the year, and thanks from benadir this one yes, yes, yes, but that's the thing though. Ben in NaVi your opinion over here, the Prophet sallallahu wasallam did not by the way, he did not kill them. He didn't like them he exiled them to high bar and many of them that's the play hybrid Yes. Yes. high bar with a hot so the people Yes. Are you gonna have a

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nobody? That's why you say Sofia had been totally anathema. Nobody, right? Yes, they were they were taken and that's exactly what happened. Okay. He showed mercy in this case also he let them go actually, according to the cult, the time the laws. This man he went and tried to assassinate the Prophet Muhammad peace embassies. So he ended up hammered. He acts exiled him. And then he went and tried to try to wage a world what we say like a world war with all the tribes and everyone to go ahead and annihilate Islam annihilate the problem, Hamid because that's what he said he is executed at the end and he was the are going to keep trying bring the Old Testament Name one person that

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Jesus killed because he was an apostate Judas, he gave him to the Jews. And he never ordered the disciple His disciples to he mentions Jesus peace be upon him who disclaimer we love as one of the mightiest messengers Him and His blessings mother has a whole chapter named after necrotic that these are very important points that are friends out there and need to know that we're not the Antichrist, we love Christ. And we worship like Christ, we greet like Christ peace be upon you sit on Lake home, and go on and on.

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And we we most importantly, we have the same theology as Jesus worshiping one and only one God, right? Yes, we don't worship any prophets are messengers. We don't worship Jesus, but we worship the god of Jesus. And then he talks about Jesus. Wait, never waging a war. Go ahead. Yeah, I think the comparison the comparison is this is LTS. molfetta. Or you could even say PSFS it like the analogy

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He's trying to put forward is really extremely, extremely full, flawed. The reason being is that when you're trying to compare the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam with the small community of the howardian, or the Companions, or the disciples that Jesus upon whom BPS had, you cannot compare you cannot compare the two because Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he was the victor. He was the triumphant at the end of the day.

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Jesus along with his companions were not.

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They were not. So Jesus Alia salat wa salam had he been given the opportunity he would have done so that's what solute Daniel was saying he didn't have Jers diction. Now, he didn't have the didn't he didn't have the authority. They didn't, they didn't end up taking controls. He didn't have the name of that he didn't have the power he wasn't able to he didn't have he didn't have that. He didn't. It's not about being courageous or being determined. He didn't have the manpower to do that to reveal I mean, here we're talking about Judea. It's a it's a colony. It's a Roman colony. They're colonized literally, right? By the Romans, right? But but here's the thing though, I mean, Jesus

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upon whom BPS and one of the narrations, he tells his companions to go sell their money, their their their garments, and to go sell their purses, if you will, their sacks and to go buy swords with them. To do what

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what are you going to tell me the sword is a metaphorical sword and so in everything else becomes a metaphor and everything becomes allegorical. No, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam there were times when he set his foot down, and rightfully so remember what we're talking about earlier that there's a time to be compassionate. There's a time to turn the other cheek there's a time to be dismissive. There's a time to be firm What about Jesus when he's firm in the New Testament? He says look for those who dishonor their parents disrespect their parents put them to death does Jesus tell him if you disrespect your parent Jesus peace be upon him? He's saying put that person to death.

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Yeah, that does. If he's saying put that for your for the parents disrespect. Imagine some of these other things like adultery, heresy and all that like he's gonna just be like, you know, let it go. Here another thing to Jesus upon whom BPCE when he walked up to the temple, and he saw the moneylenders he smashed the table he smashed that he got angry. Yeah, because they were doing riba they were doing that he but right in the middle of the temple Yeah. Now hear me out. I think this is important even for Muslims watching this because we're we've been conditioned so much in America between us Muslims, that everything has to be done with gentleness and love and kindness and a smile

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and a pat on the back and you have to really have that we have we have it there's a place and time guts for it. But that's not going to be effective in each and every Muslim that you're speaking to. So for example, we don't get on the mimbar in constantly remind our Muslim brothers and sisters of Allah has mercy week in week out week in and week out. There are some people who are going to listen to that the more you remind them of Allah's mercy the more defiant and rebellious they become to hellfire to certain Muslims they have thick skin you have to remind them of a loss severe wrath and punish them that awaits them that awaits them if they do not wake up, tie their boots and they put

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their belt on and they get serious so it's a balance it's of course it's a balance Yes. And so Jesus upon whom BPS he doesn't come to them and say guys, did I tell you guys to stop this and pet one on the back and say, Hey, buddy, you should know better. No, he got angry. He snapped. He got angry. But here's the thing too, is that today in Muslims need to listen eat we really need to hear this is that today when you get angry for the sake of Allah, suddenly you need to go see a therapist, and your wife has taken you to some therapists because you got angry one time or you your voice was loud a little bit right? When it's for the sake of Allah or if you're an imam at the mission. And you you

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know, you're a little bit you're passionate, you get a little bit angry suddenly, oh, you're pushing people away from the machine and you lack wisdom? Of course. Yes. I'm getting to that. Okay, I'm gonna get into that. You lack wisdom, brother, you scare people away from the mission. This is not how you invite people to Islam and everybody becomes an expert on how to give Dawa. Right. Now here's the thing, though. When people do it for social justice causes, they're praised. They're celebrated. People are saying we want to hear your guys's voice even more louder, louder. So let me get this straight. When we get angry for the sake of Allah, which is by the way in Islam, this is

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called the help of Mahmoud. This is good angry, it shows your hatred that you have for the deen. It shows your Hydra. We're not talking about being loud and careless here. But why is it that when people get angry for the right reasons for the sake of Allah, suddenly it's shunned. We Muslims do this between our we've forged this culture. But now when people are out on the street, for example, and they're parading for their LGBT causes, they're parading for their transgender causes. People are yelling at the top of their lungs and everybody

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You're celebrating that everybody is championing that and they're being celebrated all around. Why is that? It's a good point. That's a that's a problem. This is a deficiency in our way of dealing with things. Right? So the Prophet alayhi salatu was him right? Is the Sahaba when they described how the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam was, he says it a Hapa funerals Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, Murata, Janetta wa salatu who work in the home on the rosacea? Kulu sebahagian? Mama Second, it says if he was the leader of an army, warn us of someone who's going to come? Right and harmless, right? His his cheeks or his face would get read. And his voice would become loud. The

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vein would be popping out. Yes. So people have this Muslims have to stop with this nonsense of Oh, brother, that no, that is the Prophetic way to do it. If you're passionate about something in the community is out of line, and you get passionate and you're worked up. That is an indicator of your iman. Now, if we're talking one on one, that's a different story, yeah, I can't be hard on you, if it's a one on one conversation. But if you're speaking to a community, and that community is losing it, and we've just gotten a little bit too far than it's understand, it's expected that the Imam is going to be passionate, and is going to maybe, you know, be a little bit angry and express his

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frustration, there is nothing harmful in that and we have to stop pushing this nonsense.

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So we got, I think people can start to realize when you start to unpackage, a lot of this, you know, sincere people who are out there watching shows amount of Christian Jew, whoever somebody who's a truth seeker, they can see like, hold on, man, this is totally opposite what I'm getting from this machine gun method, should we go on? Or we should start to know, I just want to say that this is why this is why early Christianity, right? I think it's really, I think, and Allah knows best that for Christians, if they really want to keep marketing the Jesus as the prince of love and the Prince of Peace, and he wouldn't hurt a fly. And if you hit them, then he's going to give you the other cheek,

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I think it is only better for them to separate him from the Trinity and separate them from God. Because if when you're trying to tell me about Jesus being this way, and then I see the commandments that he as God commanded in the Old Testament, it's gonna be very hard to reconcile between the two. It's hard to harmonize the two. So just say he's a prophet, God did that in his own wisdom, and you can separate the two. That's in other words, it's more coherent I believe, as a strategy moving forward. The most people don't even read the Bible, because you can play this game that these guys do. And then you lack integrity, and you last truthfulness, like they do. But you can bring up

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versus just I just do this to strike an example where Jesus said, of my enemies who wish to not reign over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me. This is Jesus saying that right? Can I can I context to that? Go ahead. Yeah, a lot of people will argue and this is why I didn't bring that up is because this is they'll say that this is a parable that Jesus is speaking of another king. Yeah, but we because I hope we're men of integrity. Yeah. And we're, we know better that we're not going to use that as Zach. We're just gonna, we're gonna meet them and say, You said it's a parable. Okay, see how you didn't even know you're gonna say that. I know. It's a parable, you know,

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as a parable. Now, you try to tell some of these things in context, somebody's guide, they're not going to stop, I have no integrity. If they're gonna keep pushing, pushing, they're like twist. And Eddie, the difference between them and us. They're desperate or not. They're desperate. They're desperate. We're not they wanted to go to sell those. But by the grace of Allah, we're not desperate. If you want to come in and join Islam, if you want to be a Muslim, by all means, right? But we're not going to lie and fabricate to bring people in. I don't think these guys the point is they don't they're not even trying to have someone become a Christian or anything. These guys don't

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even spend any time inviting people to Christianity, what they do, they spend 100% of the time shooting bullets at a slob trying to discredit Islam. You don't see any of these Islamophobes coming out and spending the time and talking about the pillars of their faith right now. Why the proof of Christian they don't do any of that. That's the ironic thing. I have people who just criticize Muhammad once. And he ordered his disciples to go and kill him even lying. His name is Cabanel Ashraf, he's a Jewish guy. They killed him. They lie to him. They took him and they killed him. He how does this man say this? He knows the background between you and I fit he knows better. He knows

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the context. He knows the background. Do you hear that? And you're like what? You know I'm not I'm taken aback I don't know anything about Islam and you hear this from him you be like man for real? These guys my problem Muhammad for real? I mean, oh, it's he's basically depicting Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam as someone with this grandiose, you know, attitude so full of himself, and he can't take someone criticizing him. I mean, for the love of for the love of God.

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Prophet Mohammed Alia salatu salam was accused of a lot of things right so for God even an usher have to come along and accuse him of something else is that really

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Subhanallah How can I let's let's do this. God even Ashraf I find it really, really low for someone like this to say him to come out in public on a podcast, such as the one he was on recently to say that Prophet Mohammed was criticized once by God given a shot of Hello. That's not what happened. God ignorant Ashraf, then again, let's provide some context, he was not someone who simply uttered the wrong word at the wrong time in the wrong place. This man was known to be a criminal with a laundry list of crimes that he perpetuated. Let's let's let's start down that list. First off the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam when he came to Medina. When he came to Medina. He wanted to unite

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the Jews and the Muslims all alike under one community. Not one faith, not not like interfaith dialogue today. We're all we're all the same. Hey, good, thank you. This is how we do it know the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. When he came to Medina, it was it was tribes it was different tribes in historic document Yeah. coloration. It's called the declaration of Medina, declaration of Medina like no other. I mean, this is like he's trying to bring this is the peace. Yeah, the king of peace. He tried to make peace and Akina didn't come if he was really common, and he wanted to get rid of the Jews. He had the power in the world to do that. He could have easily said, the first

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thing we got to do is we got to get rid of these Jews because we simply don't like them. Let's get rid of benoquin Why'd you do that? He had no authority. He had the power. He could have done that. Yes, yes, he could have, but he didn't. Because that's not who he is. His is his character. By default, his character is loving his character is forgiven. His character is charitable, right? SallAllahu wasallam. So this is this is who he was by nature, right? It's when you get someone who's very loving and caring.

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When you rile them up, there comes a point in time where you can push someone towards a cliff, they can take a step 2345 backwards. The next step, if they take, they're gonna fall off of the cliff. So there comes a time where you have to start pushing back. Right? So the declaration of Medina is Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. He comes in, he finds all these scattered tribes, for tribes, three tribes of Medina, but no Binaca Ben another year, and also Benu Cordova, the prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. He says this is one OMA meaning here. The word OMA by the way has a broader meaning. It has eight meanings in the Quran. But the word OMA here, meaning that we are one community, that we

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will find the enemy collectively, and we will all stand by side by side as a as one group as one community, who signed on to this pack benoquin aka Benin of the year, and also blucora. The all of them agreed to these terms and conditions that the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam stipulated the first group, the first group, the Jewish tribe of benoquin. AHCA was the first one to renege. They were the first one to renege treason now, yes, the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa sallam did not harm them, he allowed them to leave, he exiled them. The same thing goes with band, another band who kinda happened after a better band who anomaly or happened after or heard and when, who and Ben

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Korova pannacotta happened after World War 200 and hybrid happened after it was with

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Soho Davia now the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam he let go, he completely let them go away scot free Benu I know. And Bonavia Okay, so the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam if he really had a problem with the Jews per se, because I know what he's getting at. And I'm surprised he didn't say it. They were literally trying to say that there was anti semitic Semitism going on during the dawn of Islam, but you can't you can't you can't do that because Arabs are will give people he's lying. Liar. There's Semitic people. I'm very I'm very, I'm very,

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I would think, you know, not just myself, I'm not someone to really attack people and whatnot, right? When I see someone who's fake a liar, I'm gonna call it out. And you know, even though there's a lot of people who are out there who might, you know, be antagonistic towards Islam, you could see maybe there's some, you know, the door's always open but when someone's just a clear fake and a liar, he's this is what he is, you know, so I'm just calling it out. So so let's let's so go on not so we don't lose drag on too much. Yeah. So the story of God, shut up. I mean, he narrows it down as just making one silly comment and suddenly the prophet Isaiah salat wa salam is commanded

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him to be killed. No, this person was under the Oath of the Muslim and he reneged. He reneged on that oath, he reneged on that pact that was between his tribe and the Muslims. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam after husband's bed after a car deal like we made a deal for a car to renege and what No, no

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I was like, this is the sanctity of life versus the sacred sacred. You know, this is the serious Yeah, this is serious. This is not a YouTube share or a comment or like on a YouTube. No, this is far beyond that. Right? So God had been shut off immediately after the polytheists or the Meccans were defeated in better this man Cobb, even an Ashraf, right, who was known to be a very wealthy merchant, by the way, he was very wealthy. He was very strong, he was very good looking. And he was he had a lot going for himself if you want to say that, right? He goes from his tribe and he goes to Mecca. What does he do? He ends up speaking ill of the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam, he you

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should bibiani I want to say this in Arabic, you shouldn't be Bobigny sat in Muslimeen. While Be humble Fabio Zoji, la Bezalel, the Allahu Anhu. He used to, he used to perform poetry in the middle of the masses, right? speaking ill of the wife of an abbess, Allah best as the prophets uncle. So he would speak about her describing her in very intimate ways. But he would also do the same to the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. Those things some scholars of the city say those things can be overlooked. But the fact that he was there in Beda, supposedly this man now is supposed to be a community member of who, of Medina. He is under an oath. He goes and he Korea creates chaos. He is

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provoking the Mexicans to start a new war with Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Now the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa sallam, he was not again, he was not he was not a zombie. He had eyes out. So people are listening. And people are carrying news back and forth, because this is an Islamic state that's under threat. And every by the way, don't Don't come at me with that. Well, why do they have those? Every country has an will have on the verge of an extinction now? Yes, yes. So the Prophet salallahu Salam, when he hears this, that's when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam commanded for this man to be put to death, not his tribe, him. The Prophet sallallahu Sallam

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commanded him to be killed, not his tribe, not his people, it's we have to separate between the two. So this is not some innocent man. One thing I think that's very important, and I think it's the topping on the cake. This man was a very well known poetry

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at the caliber of another person by the name of a boy as a Juma he, now poets at the time of the prophet or during for a century, of the Hijra poets during I think, even if the Jay Haley period, poets were like the propaganda machines that we have today. Right, the CNN, the Fox News, the CBS, this and that and the other right, they were the ones who would caused a lot of this havoc to happen, they would be the ones instigating the war, they would be the ones provoking the war. And by the way, it's funny because there's a book it's called the shaping of the Arabs, that was written by Joelle Carmichael, who speaks about this, when she talks about the poet's right, she says that they

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were literally the ones who were adding fuel to the fire. So this person who was not just an average person, see, what I don't like is that the way he depicts this is that Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu, Allah who was sitting Salam is sitting with his, with his companions and saying, Who should we get rid of today? Who do you guys think of, oh, let's get rid of God. But I should have. Excuse me. That's not how this happened. And I think people have I think, and hamdulillah a lot of people, including non Muslims, are starting to see and hamdulillah by this great work that you yourself, you're doing with a lot of these rebuttals, and Muslims have at least a final chance to answer and

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rebut a lot of this nonsense. People are kind of starting to see how much of us a snake these characters are actually are in fact, art. Yeah. And if you were to take not 10 out of 10 100 out of 100 generals, some of the most famous influential leaders of their time, people who have the movers and shakers and whatnot, and you would ask them, okay, how would you have dealt with the situation? They wouldn't have dealt with it any way better than the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. You look at you know, people who are sitting, you know, at their keyboard and whatnot, and just looking to foster and promote hate and whatnot, they try to use these things, but when you put

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it in context, and you see like, okay, this person committed treason, you had the other person does Sophia, the father Sofia, he actually tried to assassinate Prophet Muhammad, they tried to kill him. Imagine someone tried to kill now the president United States, and whatnot, where's he going to be? What's going to happen to him? We understand that right? In this. But imagine at that time, even at that time, what were the laws, the regulations, the code, which is all normative. This is all normative protocol, this North that's a very important point, normative protocol that's happening at that time. Standard. It's nothing new. I mean, and it's according to the book, the laws the Torah,

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it's according to this. Yeah, if you look at it, yeah, right there. Yeah, it's treason. It's in the Old Testament. I mean, it's so there's not much to even say more on that. It just very hypocritical, you know, reminds me I want to quote Thomas Carlyle, he said the lies Western slander.

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well meaning zeal has heaped around this man, Muhammad. So some are disgraceful to ourselves only. This is a very profound quote by Thomas Carlo. And when people really look into the problem his life they should because Michael H Hart has him as one of the most, the number one he puts problem in number one is the most influential man in history. And what came to mind is the other side when God Almighty Allah talks about that I have not sent from Mohammed except Rahman, Al Amin, as a mercy to all mankind and you had Jews at the time this is a Jew. But what about the other Jews who were people who were looking at his life? Abu Salam is his name, right? He was a scholar, the best of the

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learning men academics of that time, he accepted Islam. Why do you do that? If he was like, you know, he was someone who was sincere, he was searching, he accepted Islam Didn't you have a Jew also another was that a Jew, who came and put a loan towards he gave Muhammad a loan. And then he was like, Okay, let me test him. He fits all the signs. But let me test the forbearance sign because it was in there, too. He was forbearance he had to be for, you know, if someone knows what forbearances are, that's when you're in a position of authority now that you can punish, but you forgive and go beyond. So this man gave the loan to Prophet Muhammad peace and was found, you know, the story. And

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then he ends up coming back beforehand, and says, give me the money. You're cheap, what's going on? You know, you don't pay back whatnot. And then Oh, my God, Rohan steps up, and he's about to take care of business and problems problem. Hamas has stepped back, you know, give him the money in Delhi. solubilizer makalah. Yeah, he just says that the person in the decide, but how could the person who has you know rights had that have to be handed over to them? They have something to say in other words, his his grief, is understood. Was this a Jew man? Was this a person was a jail, we're talking about the same story. He gave it to them. And then he said was it who here Omar? He

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said, give him what he what he needs, get payments debt back and release him? And give him Wow, yeah. And that and then Oh, my God, the law. He said, Why do you do that? He talked to him. He said, I wanted I was testing him I wanted to see and he did he fit the description of being the prophet of God. Look, these are the this is what we have. Are you missing out all this? What about that we can go on and on. I'm sorry, I'm getting carried away. But what was it was the man who also talked on the Prophet Muhammad so much that he left a scar? Yes, yes. Is this the same story? This is another one. I think it's the same story, the same story. So this is added in there. Right? So you got in

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this in this particular case, you have a Jewish scholar accepts Islam. You have this Jewish man also later except Islam, you had the Christian. They say a word of God, but no fool. These were the most learned men. My point here is when someone is sincere and they're looking at Prophet Muhammad's life from a sincere lens genuinely want to know the truth. They don't walk away with like these guys walking away because they're not sincere. They're, they're just hey, provocateurs. And they're causing not in their interest. They're not in their interest. And that's the thing that's not in their interest to portray Islam through any positive lens. It's just not in their interest. No. And

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you have, again, because we talked about Jewish and like he said, you know, he makes it seem like, you know, Islam, Muslims hate Jews and dadada. And is that Islam saved the jury, if you look at professor who wrote the JC essay, Jewish professor David, or Warren 16. He's a academic professor of Jewish Studies is in the Jewish Chronicles, his quote, Islam saved the jury, meaning the Jewish people when they were persecuted by Christians and others, they were just, you know, ran out of town. And so Islam saved the Jewish people, it takes discipline and maturity, to praise those

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you don't like, and this is something I believe both of these individuals on that platform lack, you are judging a war that happened 3000 years ago, by the standards of today, the difference between the Old Testament and Islam, we believe those applied for those circumstances and stayed there, they should not be applied today. Islam Jihad should be applied in the time of Muhammad today and forever. So killing the kids of polytheist. Muhammad answered Dr. From them, they are just polytheist like them, so it's okay to kill them. And let me tell you about killing kids how you define a kid in the raid of Benny of Kota either? Yeah, so a lot of us. Again, this, this, I think

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is the last one, we'll wrap it up. I think one of the I think this he has a track record for being very Guile, conniving, and not a trustworthy individual, honestly, because, again, he's fused this out like, like, like a machine gun, but doesn't give you the context is that he doesn't tell you why it happened. It's again, he depicts a false narrative that the Prophet alayhi salatu salam was just sitting along with his companions and they thought, You know what, let's go. Let's go annihilate Benny Cordoba. That's how he's making things look, right.

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So, again, the context is that Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam,

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some of the Sita would argue the most difficult period, the most difficult husba The scariest of all battles was with Lund duck, because it was what the hunt duck was basically it happened took place during the fifth year of the the hegemony of the trench, the Battle of the Trench. The Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam. This was a time where the Arab tribes, Mecca along with other tribes along with Benny Cordova. Right. Benue Cordova was a tribe that colluded that was under oath. Right. They had a pact, the Muslims had a pact with Benny Cordova, right that they would predict Medina, they are a constituent, a constituent of this Medina of this town, that what happened later is they ended

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up going behind the back of the Muslims. They ended up colluding with the Meccans with the polytheists along with others, right other they call it the Confederates total and I think up to 10,000 Soldiers together, right? This was a very, very, even though so how about all the Allahu Anhu would say that it was a very, very difficult time for the Muslims. So the Prophet alayhi salatu salam after the battle and by the way, nothing happened in the battle. It was Allah subhanho wa Taala and sort of lazerbrite says the work of Allah Allah meaning Alcatel Allah subhanho wa Taala he sent a whirlwind he sent in other things that happened where the Muslims did not fight did not end

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up fighting against the not the disbelievers word got back to the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam finding out that Benny poor Eva was in fact colluding in was treacherous, treacherous and colluding with the Mexicans in fighting against the Muslims fighting against who their own community. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, obviously they're held accountable for what? Treason. Right now the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam, he's not the one. I think people have to remember this very important part here. The Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam was not the one who instituted he was not the one who called out the verdict. They wanted Saad Ibn live to be the one calling out the verdict

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beside them, and we'll add in the J Helia times Benu Korova were allies with a side and wide that hosts, the tribe of hosts. So they thought that Saddam and Mohammed was going to rule in favor of this treachery, let them go have them pay a ransom or something. But he ended up saying that those combat tents, again, let us focus here, the combatants, those the elderly, were the ones to be put to death, not the women and not the children. Now one has to differentiate though, at that time, there was no such thing as civilian and combat and

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there was no such thing as you're a civilian, you're in the army, you're a combat and right there was no such separation at that time. So sad Durbin, that all the Allahu commended for all of them to be killed. And to be honest here, some old amount of the Sierra say that some of the people put the number at 60, all the way up to 900.

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There's a long a long discussion. And the numbers vary from one scholar to the other in terms of how many men were actually killed. That's what I was gonna ask you next, I heard that the sources for this it's a numbers. One scholar was talking about how maybe you can elaborate on this that was a Jewish reference was narrating the amount of people who were there and that they exaggerated this number that you mentioned. 60 Yeah, some people put it up to

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100 100. But for us, for us, it's it's to a point it's irrelevant, because the point the lesson here is that these people the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa sallam please, the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam was not running around indiscriminately killing random people. If he was truly doing that, no one would side with him. His loyal companions would not live and die for him if he was out randomly, indiscriminately killing any random person who comes in front of him. So that's one thing to remember is that the Prophet Alayhi Salatu was Salam was not the one who instituted or carried out the verdict. It was Saudi Benoit. Now the most interesting part of this whole was or and it was it

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was ruled according to the Torah to their own Toto, Victoria, but the topping on the cake again, is that neither one of them said, Oh, this is oppression, This is injustice. Do you know why? Because they knew deep inside what was waiting for them.

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So I'm not sure why he's defending those who actually admit and acknowledge their own wrongdoing. Neither one of them said you know what, this is not right it because they know they know what's what's waiting for them. And then it's interesting he mentioned and this is for the video before Jesus but if you look at in one shot Moses

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who we love and revere is one of the five great messengers when he came back. It's in the Bible. And he saw the people worshipping the kava and one shot, how many 3000? Allah want him. But yeah, that is around 3000 according to their sources, but sure how many people actually died during the lifespan of Prophet Muhammad in the wars and everything? Some say estimate are 1400? Yeah, it's a 14. But what's more important than that 3000 in one shot. So how are you going to, if you're going to discredit prom Mohamed, what about, you know, goes back to the to Moses, and, you know, the wars that he was a part of why I think I think each and every Muslim, yeah, each and every Muslim should

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take it upon him or herself. And I think this is really I'd call even non Muslims for this as well is that when you look at a battle, when you look at two people fighting, are you going to immediately assume that they're both transgressors, and both need to be pushed in prison. And both of them need to be, you know, executed, or both of them need to be incarcerated. There's, there's someone who was wrong. There's someone who was right, usually, right. You don't just look at two and say, Oh, those are two evil people. Because you're engaged in aggressive action, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're an evil person. And as I mentioned earlier, brother Eddie, I think

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we're having this discussion is that if you have a judge who sentences someone to life in prison, or even for someone for the death executes someone to be executed or someone to be put on the death, deathbed or on the electrical chair, that same judge will leave that courtroom, go back to his home, get in his car, have breakfast with his family, the following day, have supper with His family that that same night, he'll go to the grocery store. Now, when someone carries this out in instructs for this person to be incarcerated or to be put on the on the deathbed. Does that necessarily make this judge a bloodthirsty monster?

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No.

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It's simply the act of justice that's being carried out. Justice is being served. Right? So people I'm not sure why a lot of people have a hard time separating the two that okay, yes, God is loving God is merciful. But we all do realize that there's still a hell out there and blazon and it's going to undoubtedly have inhabitants. So just because there's a hell does that mean that a loving God can exist? No. Those who will be in hell will be there justly. And those who will be in heaven will be there out of God's love, benevolence, compassion, and mercy. I ask a lot that we are of its inhabitants. I mean, I mean, as we conclude here, instructions were probably Muhammad to his army

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before engaging in battle this is before any Geneva convention or just war theory idea that did not kill any child any woman or any elderly focused sick this is correct. Do not practice treachery of mutilation do not uproot or burn palms or cut down food trees do not slaughter or animal except for food do not kill the monks Minister Minister monasteries and not kill those sitting in places of worship and destroy the villages towns and spoil the cultivated fields garden slaughtered the cattle. I mean, this is unheard of man. Imagine at that time like lawlessness. You know, this is like worse than a wild wild west at that time. Yeah, he's covered the problem himself. So he's

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coming with this. Yeah, yeah, come on. Yeah. This is like, I mean, have you think Come on, how many books have you read read the Quran and look at Prophet Muhammad's life. And when you look at one of my guests, he was trying to ban Islam.

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Jordan, I hate chopping up people's names, but he was afraid he was a Joran Van Damme. Sound familiar? No, I don't know very nice brother. And he was about to write a book. He wrote a book apostate and he was going to write a book before that about Islam. He's in the Norway. He was.

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He was looking at the life of Prophet Mohammed, he was looking at the Quran has Syrah and he was comparing as a Christian, he's looking at also the old tests. He's looking at the Bible, and he's looking at Moses, and he's comparing the two and he's being sincere. That's the difference between them and this guy. And he was, he was islamophobe. He, he didn't like Nelson. He's trying to ban Islam and Norway. And then he concludes, he's telling the story. He concludes that hold on, he's been truthful. He's like, no, this doesn't make sense. Actually, if I gotta be accents is more violence here coming from this direction and the Bible. He ends up accepting Islam ends up accepting

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Islam. Amazing. And now he's calling people to Islam submission to the Creator, not the creation. Can I Can I make one more point? Yes, because I think it might have been a little bit difficult for people to grasp earlier. When we're talking about God's attributes and we're talking about God's who God is God, His attributes, he's a loving merciful God, that's who he is. Okay. God doesn't become he doesn't become loving. He doesn't become merciful. That's a part of, that's who he is.

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Right? So people have to acknowledge that

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If I again, I said this earlier, but I just wanted to reiterate it because it might have flown over the heads of certain people is that if a loving God can reveal those 600 Odd Commandments in the Old Testament, and some of them are harsh, some of them are difficult to grasp and so on and so forth. What prevents a loving God from reintroducing the very same laws later on in time

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mean that that if you're going to look at us Muslims and say your God can't be a loving God, because of the stone and because of the, the adulterer, because of you know, ABC XYZ, the same thing can be said about you, that God of the Old Testament that was a loving God, right, so a loving God can reveal harsh commandments, correct? Yes. So that same loving God is revealing, right at the time of Prophet Mohammed, Salah Salem, certain harsh laws. So it's not mutually exclusive one does not negate the other. Yeah. And if you if you look at it, many of these are deterrence. I mean, the scholars talk about, you know, it's very, very difficult to enforce a lot of these things that but

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they act as a huge deterrent to keep the criminals in check. That's why you can go to Dubai, you can go to places, you know, that are Muslim majority who were not implement everything. 100%. But what they are, they'll see that I remember Bill Phillips Sheba Phillips, he talks about when he was when the Gulf War was happening, and he had like, $3,000 center, and the troops, American troops would go there, they had like over 3000 Except Islam, and their stories were like, man, we'd come here, they'd see everything just left in the open, lunchtime, you know, nighttime, you know, you don't have like 100 locks security system, just like that's what it is, you know, when people are

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criminals are in check. That's when you have peace in society. Right? Otherwise, the criminals are let loose you You're, you're being terrorized by that. Right, you need you need law in order. And this goes back to what we were talking about earlier, too, is that we're starting to see that with all the looting happening in California this then and they're giving you know what, you know, $1,000 You know, people can go and steal and then and now people are getting fed up. They're like, you know, seeing what's happening when you start not having, you know, this firm law firm law, you have to sometimes you have to Yes, and they're respecting Islam for that a lot of people now and they're

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looking, they're saying Islam is the last? Hope I'm even considering it now. Well, that's the thing. That's the I think that's what I wanted to that's what we started off with earlier is that there are a lot of people out there who are looking and considering Islam, not because it's like every other faith or religion out there. No, to the contrary, they're accepting Islam. And they're considering Islam because of people who are out there who are spreading the undiluted truth. So when you as a Muslim, you're looking at another Muslim and criticizing him thinking that, Oh, he's the worst thing that happened to Dawa? Do you not realize how many people are considering Islam, because of the very

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person that you have a problem with? Different strokes for different folks? Right, there is a niche for the raw message of Islam, there are people who like that raw message, there are other people who like that, you know, interfaith dialogue and the soft, you know, oh, Islam is about love and peace and mercy. And we just have to get along, and it's about tolerance, and accepting one another and embracing one another. Thank you. There's a place in time for that. But when we're talking about determined deterrence and incentive, some people work and they're moved by an incentive, other people, the only thing that will get them to move, stop cease and desist is by having a deterrent in

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place. Yeah. And this is what this is why Islam is such a relevant religion because it speaks to human psychology. It speaks to the human nature and it speaks above all to our reality. Yes, and it's built on something that makes the most sense of worshipping one and only one God not his creation and being morally upright. I'm getting nervous now because it's about I got it, we got to pray. And we've covered so much and I would just want to end with this. I think it's very important how dangerous these guys and even for them there's hope of they turn their life around, of course to stop you know, this treachery of course, people like this who you know, made a career out of this

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and I really felt like when I after because I was there you know, at the with Pat, I want to commend Patrick and David you know, for putting this together and Allah guide him May Allah guide him me, a very nice man, and we had a good conversation.

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When I was leaving, you had this, Rob, I don't know why they call him Bobby. He was there by himself. And I was just trying to give him some dollar try to give us some advice. You know, what I mean, to be sincere is very quick. And what I sense was, he just seemed like a very lonely person, just just, you know, somebody who just, you know, he needed friends he needed to he just just just by himself, he's certainly not going to live a good life, peaceful life. I told him Look, I said, Look, my advice for you really is to be sincere with yourself, be sincere of your Creator and ask your creator for guidance. I left him with that. And even for someone like that, is there hope for

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them if they change their way and they turn and they repented to the credit heavens?

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It Earth, that they can go ahead. And there's a there's a hope for everyone. I mean, yes, indeed, indeed. I mean, this might even sound foolish, there is hope for Robert Spencer, that's what I was referring to. There is why had the little, I mean, if you look at some, I mean, if you look at the life of those who went before the Sahaba, that you could look at consider the past of even Malcolm X, it was not a bright, you know, on the track path. But hey, Allah subhanho wa Taala guides whom He wills because what they're doing is dangerous is dangerous. For people who are credulous, you know, come out, they're naive and they look at their work and then they get in the Andrew Brevik of the

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world they go and they recommend him in his manifesto and they push this you know, fear they create this fear and anxiety, then you hate Muslims, and then it leads to violence, or even the Muslim and you give your you know, your datian interpretation, your you know, twisted interpretation like someone who give their kk k interpretation. And now the Muslim out there, he's, you know, he's also not well grounded, but he maybe he gets his information, his Hadith, or his is from this gravi or the bobby or whoever, and he does something he gets infected with this extreme radical behavior because he programmed him like this. It's happened. It's yeah, it's happened. Yeah.

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