#839 Breakdown of Shirk with FouseyTube Youtube Stars Logan Paul – Dr. Bilal Philips

They give it new terms. You know, you believe in energy and are you spiritual, he called it that he said, this is the evil eye. This is a, we also have a evil eye, the stories of the job and the tricks that he does on people, it comes to the same thing, pistols, we shouldn't touch other people's

energy. I put it under my pillow when I go to sleep and sleep, but there's like put it under your pillow. They assume that there's a connection between the rubbing of the Buddha's belly and the good things happening. You know, is this acceptable?

Well, you know, people say the same thing about drugs. But you'll hear you'll hear people say muttered me, like when they swear on something, necklace. And when she put it on, it stopped. The tuition stopped in her eye knocking of the word when some people talk those who do black magic, okay, a form of *. If you talk to people, they don't believe their God. They have divine divinity. But

sit on legs and welcome to the show. Most of you know our next guest, Dr. Shayla Philips. He's here with us to talk about a very important topic, Dr. Shaikh bill Phillips, how are you?

I'm fine. Abdullah, how have you been my pleasure to be here again, it's good to have like a lot of people, it's good to have you back here on the D show.

My pleasure. So we wanted to talk about some of the modern day, things that are out there that some of the even it's going mainstream. You know, people get away from talking about religion, and they give it new terms. You know, you believe in energy. And are you spiritual? I do Yeah, I definitely believe in energy. Spiritual is the right word. I'm a big believer like the universe. Yeah. You know, manifestation, Destiny, all that spiritual enlightenment, we some of these videos that we'd like to go ahead and kind of comment on Have you reflect or because this is kind of what the you this is kind of what like the new generation, and it's kind of just a new packaging. It's kind of

the same things that happened before, but kind of just a new packaging. So we want to get your thoughts on that. The first one is this video here? Like a cross? Yeah, almost like a pyramid. In the middle. We have Oh, we shouldn't touch other people's cars. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm sorry. You're good. I apologize. Now. You're like my OCD was just adjusting it a tiny bit again. Do you have to watch it later? Yeah, I have to Sage it. So the thing about crystals, they have a lot of energy, and they absorb energy too. So like when when other people touch them? Yeah, your energy goes on. But you're I'm not sure when you're gonna go get now you hear some of these terms. You hear somebody

terms like crystals, energy, I put it under my pillow when I go to sleep and sleep, but there's like put it under your pillow, because it almost like helps you come into like a spiritual awakening. Okay, so that's really cool. It just gives us really good energy. This apparently has interaction with like your third, I don't know if you know about that some spiritual stuff, but makes me feel good. What's your reaction when you see things like that?

This is nothing new. It's been around for a long time. You know, people are wearing rings, even now, you know, rings with certain stones in them and claiming that these stones are good for this and good for that or the other.

What we're calling New Age religion, from way back in the 70s, late 60s with the hippie movement, you know, this was the outreach into

experimenting with everything that is out there. You know, and

this is just, you know, a revival in those individuals or I may not even be really a revival in the sense that what was started in the late 60s went through the 70s just continued, but you know, it there's, there's a rise and fall, you know, popularity and, you know,

people get tired of it and move on to other things and a new generation comes in and gets involved in it. And if you even go all the way back to the time of the Prophet, may God's peace and blessings be upon him. And in the end and all the prophets of Allah,

you know, people were into wearing

metal things, bracelets around their arms, you know, and believing that these would prevent evil and, you know, bring good and so all of this is, is nothing new, you know,

it's also I don't see that it is anything to get really alarmed about

We we have in the dean clear instructions, you know, with regards to these matters when we take when we put it in front of Lyla Illallah You know, it falls apart because it's all

a part of the law. Yeah, there is no other God no other power. No other deity entity, no. which controls what happens in this universe except Allah La hawla wala quwata illa Billah believes that robots are seldom used to repeat regularly, that there is no power or movement, except by the will of Allah. Now, before we started people, I read your introduction, who you are what you've been doing. And for all these years, educating people on the purpose of life, you came from a background of being a Christian, and then actually, you were in communism. And then one point,

atheist, is that correct? So you kind of were all all around the all around the world, and then you came to Islam. And then you know, for the people out there, these YouTube stars are people who reach millions and millions, there's some of the most popular out there. And then, if you're not well grounded in your deen people watch this even Muslim, sometimes anything God is is cool, you know what I mean? You know, and so they start experimenting and falling into many of these traps of shaytaan. So even if we can reach our message can reach people like this because from the video you hear, okay, I was in a very dark place in my life, when you hear that, what does that signal to you

I was in a dark place in my life, and all of a sudden, now they start experimenting, and now he's at that road of experimenting, you see, okay, he's got one point, he's got the cross, that he's got the crystals in the when the Muslim This is a Muslim, actually, who's interviewing him. The name is foodzie tube, he touched it by accident, and the guy that Oh, do I have something about a sage? And you got to know do you have to watch it later? Yeah, I have to Sage it. So well, the dark place in life, you know, is something that everybody goes through their, their ups and their downs, you know, I'm the level of up

depends on your knowledge of Allah,

as well as the level of down

when think, into misguidance and,

you know, as they say, the drowning man will clutch at a straw, they will reach out and grab anything, of course, the satanic forces that want human beings to be away from God misguided, you know, they are very busy in times of depression, times of

sadness

and, and these kinds of circumstances where it makes a person vulnerable. So these traps and tricks and snares they've been there from the time of

their until the end of this world. But when people are able to connect with the correct knowledge which was brought by the prophets of Allah, may Allah His peace and blessings be on all of them, I mean, then that provides them with a shield against these forces. But you know, it doesn't mean that the fact that you've accepted Islam, all of a sudden, none of these things affect you anymore. You know, because, for example, if the library is rude on one occasion,

came home and found his wife wearing in a knotted cord necklace, something hadn't seen her aware before. And also he had a suspicion that perhaps is some other issues of coming in coming in here something bordering on schilke or something of that nature. So he asked her what is this? You know, why are you wearing it? So she said that, you know, her eye was twitching continuously and wasn't stopped no matter what she tried to do.

So she went to this fortune teller

soothsayer type in the in the city in Medina and asked him for any medicine or whatever he had to do with it. So he gave her this cord, necklace. And when she put it on, it stopped. The tuition stopped in her eye. So you know,

she was so happy you came home wearing it. As the library is solid. He he pulled it off her neck immediately tore it off her neck, and he said as the family have have been

sunk

to this level, you know.

So, you know, this is somebody who, obviously his wife is a believer in her, this has happened to her, in that state of desperation, that drowning man will clutch at the straw, and also whatever they can get, that can alleviate the situation when there seems to be nothing, then people will reach out and grab for it. And so, everybody is susceptible to some degree, the more one has knowledge, obviously, the more one is able to protect himself or herself from such situations.

So, this type of offerings, as I said, are not new. And they will continue to be offered all the way until the last day, you'll hear the stories of the job, and the tricks that he does on people. It comes to the same thing, when people are starving to death. He brings mountains of, of bread and mountains of meat with him, you know, and, and I was the people yeah, I'll feed you. You know, you, you just have to believe in me. You know, people are you're starving to death. What do you do that, you know, it takes a mighty, you know, stroke of faith, to be able to say I'd rather die than eat your bread and your meat.

Kill the meat you're offering. So, you know, this type of trickery and skullduggery, you know, it's nothing new. And it exists in our times, and it will exist until the last day, what I was surprised to see when the Muslim was interviewing this famous YouTube star was that he actually had something resembling a third eye, he called it that he said, this is the evil eye. This is a we also have a evil eye that's hanging on my lap. This kind of just helps fight off negative energy. You saw that part? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And we have it too, you know, we have Muslims, they have the, the,

in North Africa, especially, you know, they have the hand of Fatima, it has like two thumbs on it, you know, this is the Protector from evil eye and this kind of thing, you know, or they have this other blue

stone, you know, which is polished and shiny. And they said, you know, this protects against the evil eye. And no, there is no end of this thing is this is nothing new. You know, this is just caught those people.

They have nothing else left, as he said in that dark point in his life, where there was nothing else he never got the message of Islam. message of Islam never reached him, you know, to give him that clarity and that understanding. Okay, that, you know, in the end, when we look at all of these

options that people are reaching out for, and thinking that okay, this is another religion, this is another group, another spiritual movement or whatever, it has something else to offer. But the reality

is that the true offering is only the offering of Islam. Everything else is

what we call Miss lamb. It's Miss guidance. It is everything but what God wants for us. Okay, so the person watches this, and he or she says, Look, I believe in God, I'm a good person. This is just something now that I do I see it works for me, What's it to you?

That's between me and God.

Well, the bottom line is that

we have revelation that has been revealed.

And if we want to get closer to God, it should be through revelation. Not through stones and sticks and trees and, you know, planets and all this other stuff. You know, we get closer to God through the message that he

sent, and the prophets that demonstrated how to utilize this method. This messages. No, this is this is the source of guidance. This is for spiritual guidance. You know, it's not something that that that comes from experimentation. You know, you go rock hunting and you gather up a bunch of different rocks and

Try this rock out for this, you put that one under your pillow, you know, you went over your doorway and cook with one or whatever, you know, whatever works, you say, Okay, this is what I'm going with no, this is this is not how we find spiritual guidance.

And then in another part of the video he talks about, I'm Catholic, but I don't really stick to any particular religion, I just take bits and pieces a little bit more than a year ago, I became very spiritual, okay, I was in a very dark place in my life, I noticed that, you know, becoming spiritual and meditating helped me a lot. I wouldn't say I follow any specific religion growing up, I was Catholic, but I don't really ever follow like a specific religion, I kind of grab bits and pieces from every religion kind of use them to help me in, in my life. That's awesome. From this one, and that one? How would you respond to that?

No, no, this is not new. You know, people taking bits and pieces from different places, mixing them all together and coming up with something. They give it a new name or whatever. It is not new. But this is not how God guides. He doesn't guide through confusion. The truth is clear. crystal clear. As the prophet may God's peace and blessings be upon him, it said that he left us on a clear white plane, whose night like its day, and anyone who deviates from that is destroyed. So pretty much it's not like Burger King, have it your way, it's not a buffet, that's to be God's way. It's his will be done. Not our will our desires pretty much. Exactly, yeah. And the next video clip, we see your

other stomach for good luck.

Good things happen. Good things can happen. You know, you know, people, whenever they play with these matters, you know, they're getting they get trapped when good things happen. Because

they assume that there's a connection between the rubbing of the Buddha's belly, and the good things happening. Oh, wow.

That's Big Buddha, you rub the stomach for good luck.

And good things happen. I'm not Buddhist. But it's nice.

But that's not really the case. You know, good things are happening around the world, without people doing anything.

The ultimate

understanding should be that good and evil,

are under the control of a loss.

That if we want good to come to us, then we should turn to God is the ultimate source of good. And it is by his permission, that certain evils happen in this world. So if we want protection from these evils, we should turn to him because he is the only one ultimately, who can prevent evil.

Let me just run through a list of common day practices. And then if you can tell us what does this constitute? From the Islamic perspective, we have these terms Also, if you could define them tauheed shidduch in this is like the the bedrock of Islam. And this is what really gravitates people towards Islam is when they really understand the pure monotheism and then what violates it. Okay, let's talk about knocking of the wood when some people talk, and then they'll say we'll meet up Friday, or we'll do this and then they'll say,

and then I'll knock on wood and you give a great example of a Scandinavian tree God at one point, can you guess the origin, the origin, you know, comes from the Scandinavian belief in tree gods. And whenever they would want to speak to the God of the tree, they would knock on the trunk of the of the tree, and then they would address the God. So this we have inherited from those pagan days and beliefs of Scandinavians. And also the same thing with the, with the Christmas tree. You know, it has its connections with them also, bringing it into the house, you know, before you had to go into the it went into the snow covered forest, and you went knocking on the tree. Now, you could just cut

the tree, bring it back home and you can do your knocking at home. Black Cat crossing the road. You see sometimes a black cat will come up and people will put their feet up when they're driving or they'll do something to the lines that maybe go around the other block, they'll backup

that we call it superstition, you know, but

This is nothing new again, you know, this is taking bad omens, you know, people do it in all kinds of ways. And societies, they, you know, they, they've, they find no end of such, you know, phenomena to, to take bad omens or good omens from, you know,

the so the black cat, because the black cats were associated with the witches, you know, and the warlocks because they were, you know, dressed up in black, etc. And they, the images of them would be with this black cat along with them, like the black dogs down the talons of the Baskervilles. And, you know, these were evil entities, you know, how is from hell? You know, so, black and red, these are colors associated with evil.

You also have the reading of cups.

Have you seen that this is also something that's popular in different places, like some places in Bosnia Turkey, where they'll have a cup, they'll drink some coffee, flip it upside down, and then they'll turn it back, and they'll start reading into your future. Well, this is another form of fortune telling, whether you do it with, you know, the leftover grains from the coffee or you use tea leaves, you know, the tea leaves are left in the bottom of the cup, after you drank your tea, or no and have such

practices. fortune telling of courses, is a form of shirk. It is, you know, I, when we, when we believe that this individual has the ability to tell you what is going to happen in the future. And this ability only belongs to God, you know, and he reveals what he wishes of it through his prophets. But other than that, you know, we have nothing that will tell us the future future is part of the, the unseen, the unknown, knowable, you know, only to God alone. So in doing that, we are ascribing to his creation, you know, for, you know, in incidents in his creation, the ability to, to determine what is going to happen in the future now, from those modern day examples that we just saw

with some of these YouTube stars, celebrities, and then just some of these examples that I'm giving to you and the audience. I mean, it could we can go on and on, you have people you know, when you go out to the night, when someone goes out, they had their lucky shirt, maybe throwing some salt over their back. I mean, when a person now what's the, the, what's the solution to this? You know, the, the, when a person gets to know, the towhee, the pure monotheism, and does this this is one of the things that really attracts people to Islam, you know, that Islam gets rid of all these strange incantations, the superstitions. So, now, we don't have to go through all all of how can people

recognize how so they don't fall into this trap, like, for another example, is like someone will say, like, you know, when they want to emphasize something emphatically, they say on my mama, right? So understanding how could someone really understand what God loves his pure monotheism and avoid what's called the shidduch that that goes and nullifies this monotheism? And why is this so important?

Well, of course, success in this life is going to be determined by the degree to which one connects with God. You know, and that connection, is through revelation. And that revelation was brought by the true prophets of God. So the only way for us to understand what this life is about, what is our purpose here? Where are we headed? What is in the life to come? The judgment, and all of the other elements of the unseen world around us, we can only understand it through the prophets of God, and the revelation, which they brought. So we have to step away from what we know to be superstition, you know, most people who follow this knocking on wood and keeping their fingers crossed, you know,

and all this other things. They know that this is just superstition. Now, but yet they do it anyway. You know, just in case, you know, I heard it did work for somebody, maybe it will work for me. You know, this is not the way that we should be living our lives. We should be living our lives in accordance with revelation and true guidance.

So if someone had a shift that's dear to them, or they read about a shift, or they had their homie or they had a, an ancestor, and somebody now they just they want to, they're lonely, they want to connect with some of the person is dead. And they say, look that brings some solace to my heart, you know, I'm talking to this person, and I'm communicating with them. It just brings some joy, I'm sad, I'm depressed. And, you know, is this acceptable?

Well, you know, people say the same thing about drugs,

is to mock up some, whatever, and shoot some whatever. And, you know, I was depressed, and you know, now I'm feeling happy.

We don't we don't judge, you know, right and wrong, good and evil, you know, based on how happy it makes you feel. You know, this is not the criterion for determining that. Because these things may be evil and harmful. And if revelation guides us, if we understand the revelation properly, it guides us, it will guide us to avoid these matters. And these things, you know, yeah, the person who has died, they're not going to talk to you again. They're not going to come in your dream and speak to you. If they do know that it is really satanic.

So for somebody going to come from a Christian background, they you know, they say, forgive me, Father, you know, they're going to confession box, they say, forgive me Father, for I have sinned. Right.

This Have you heard you've obviously heard this, okay. Sure. Okay. confessional, does this violate the pure monotheism? Of course, that's, of course, because that Father, you know, maybe more sinful than you are? You know, and we have known that from revelations that have come out, you know, in the, in the Catholic Church in recent years, you know, the pedophilia and all this that's going on. But how many people did those fathers who were caught, you know, in pedophilia?

Forgive? What was the value of that forgiveness? You know, so, the bottom line is that forgiveness is only with God. I mean, we can if we did something harmful to another human being, to ask them to forgive you, it's no harm that, you know, because they can forgive you or not forgive you. But ultimately, in terms of forgiveness, for whatever you've done, which is wrong, it is the forgiveness of God, ultimately, which is going to make the difference in your life. The forgiveness of that person, may may make you feel better out for that instance, that you did it or whatever. But ultimately, and I'm not saying you shouldn't seek forgiveness, you should seek their forgiveness.

But ultimately, it is the forgiveness of God which matters, because maybe what you did was something good. And that person suffered because of that good. And you ask them forgiveness, and they forgive you, but that forgiveness really have any meaning. In the bigger speak scheme of things no, is the forgiveness of God which has meaning? Are there categories to shut up and I'm going to just give you some examples for people to go ahead and connect more like for instance, and you can do we categorize these are just sugar because sugar free, for instance, in chapter 2102 in the Quran, God Almighty Allah is talking about those who do black magic, okay, a form of Schick. People who were to

talisman, right? We hear from the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him as a form of sheer swearing by other than God Almighty Allah, a form of Sheikh you have the example of the companions with the tree, a form of shirk, the people who are worshipping the rabbi's. God Almighty, emphatically talks about this Okay, coming being a form of sharing the story of people worshipping Mary,

example of shirk going to a fortune teller, right, if a person nullifying their prayer, but is it correct if they believe in this, it's a form of Schick? So are these all the same? Are these all forms a shirt? And are they classified the same? Are there different levels? And does a person necessarily Yeah, go ahead. Well, why are you Why are you dealing with our acts of shark?

Now in terms of how a lot deals with the one who does these acts,

that is with him, whether he forgives or not, that a person may do an act of shirk in ignorance and allow me forgive him. You know, that we have examples that are given by the province Our solemn in this regard.

So, in the end, it is up to a law who is forgiving and who is not. But for us in this life where

Ever worship in any of its forms is given to other than a law, then we're dealing with *, it may come in many, many different forms, you know, we do have minor ship,

where if you were the person, you know doing acts of worship for the appreciation or admiration or praise of human beings, right?

Then the process lm call this

a sheer colossal, right, minor shark.

Now, obviously, that indicates that that level of shark is not equivalent to the level of shark, which nullifies faith.

Know that is a personal weakness. You know, everybody likes to be praised, and it caught somebody in their worship, you know, it nullifies the, the value and the reward of the worship, but it doesn't nullify that person's faith, unless his whole life or whole life becomes that simply doing acts of worship, you know, for the praise of people.

So, when you say in the Bosnian cultures, you'll see a lot of not to pick on any culture in particular, other cultures have also things that are just kind of crept in. But you'll hear you'll hear people say, muttered me, like when they swear on something. So just I know we covered this, but this How can you replace it if you want to swear by some that's kind of translate like on my mother, right? It's a strong, emphatic ness on okay, I swear to you, but on my mother or my dead, Father, like, so what should you replace? Is this acceptable, or you should replace it with something else, if you want to really give your word to something? Well, you know, the prophet SAW, Selim has told

us that, you know, if we are to swear by anything, we should swear by a law.

So, that's who we as Muslims should be swearing by, we should not be swearing by his creation, you know, whether by you know, the prophet, you have some societies with enough to say, you know, you know, it by the prophet, you know, one maybe, or something like of that nature, or

other human beings, other saints, etc, swearing by them or by their graves, etc, etc.

And even by the Kaaba, you know, your people would do this, but it shouldn't be by the Lord of the Kaaba, not by the Kaaba, you know, so, all the time, that is, the basic principle is that, when we swear, take anything, you know, for our olds, it should be Allah subhana wa, Tada. Let me end with this final question when I was when I was also in Bosnia. And we, we talked about this, there was the people there, they took me they have a monumental site, they have a site where they have a group of brothers, that they actually died, and now their caskets, their tomb is there. And then what people do is they go by there, and they'll put like money, and then you'll see people lined up next

to their like making dog. Now, they don't necessarily believe that there. And if you talk to the people, they don't believe their God, they have the divine divinity, but they're making dua through them to Allah because they felt that they the way they died was a blessing. So does this constitute Is this a form of the nullification of tawheed? And should that?

Well, you know, the point is that, of course, we can hear a quantitative difference. And qualitative difference between calling on the dead directly, you know, for example, like, the Shia, will call on Ali, or they'll call on Fatima, and they will call on them and ask them to do things directly. And we have Muslims all over the world, calling on saints in India, in Egypt, you know, where are we going the Muslim world, Indonesia, they have them and people go there and call on them to do things for them, of that is out an Ouch.

Now, the other thing, where they are not calling on them to do something directly for them, but they're calling on them, to pray to Allah,

for them, to be still asking them to do something. It may be not as direct, but it is indirectly they are still asking them to pray for you on your behalf.

And now, if you ask a statue or a stone to do the same, how are we going to look at that? You know, the believers, that's obvious to them. If you go to idol, a Buddha, and you call on Buddha and say, okay, Buddha, please, you know, talk to a lot of him do this for me, you know, people are gonna say, hey, that's what you're doing is sick. But what is the difference between statue of Buddha and the dead human being?

In reality, neither of them can do anything for you. Whether it is directly giving you something, or passing on to, to a higher power, what you need, neither of them can do that.

So I should totally so Justin, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Yeah, so I said just as in the same way, it's very obvious to any Muslim, that if you say, okay, is it okay to pray to Buddha and ask him to speak to a law for you know, Muslim in his right mind, or her right mind would say to God, that's okay. You're not asking Buddha to do something directly. But now, when you when you're saying, okay, but this is a human being, what a human being is, who is dead, you know, that corpse in the grave bones, dust, do they have any more of an ability to do anything for you, then the statue of Buddha does.

All the same to

you, in your mind, you might say, Well, this was a person, and that's a statue. But in the end, it's all a laws creation, it's all from dust, you've given examples like this before, for people who see what they would say is miracles, and they'd hear sound or see blood coming out, or a person might have a arm that they cannot move. And then what happens I remember one time being in a cab, and I was driving, and the cab driver, me were having a discussion, he was a Christian. And then when you got down to the root of why he turned towards Christ and Christianity, he said that there was some kind of ailment in his body. And then he called out in the name of Jesus somehow, and then that went

away, you gave some brilliant, beautiful examples how the jinn can actually they can go ahead and enter certain objects, even your body, and then when you commit the act of shooting, they can leave and now you attribute that to the creation to Jesus to somebody else a saint, and then you get trapped, you get tricked, and you find the chat trap of *.

Can you elaborate on that? You even gave an example about about how in the Quran how now, the the golden calf, and then it was it made the sound?

Yeah, well,

I think you have already clarified

what the points, but reality is that it is nothing new in human history. But these were all your these, these were these were all examples that you gave. I'm just repeating the examples. Do you remember these?

Yeah, of course, you know, but you explained them already.

Like double kill overkill? Okay. No, I think the points are clear. Yeah. But you know, just the last point that you mentioned, you know, just to at least touch on it, that,

that when you look at the the concept of the followers of Prophet Moses, you know,

when Moses went up to receive the revelation, the Torah,

and he left the people behind.

And that individual referred to in the Quran as a summary,

told the people to gather their

jewelry, melted it down.

And whilst it was melting in the pot, he took some dust and he threw in it, and he told them, this is some dust from the footprints of an angel. So let's put some magic in there some serious power in that mix. And then out of it, they poured and made this golden calf and the people looked at the golden calf.

Reality is that nobody fell down in in frustration to the golden calf that they've seen idols before. They came out of Egypt that seen all the Egyptian gods and you know, they said no end of it. So they were just looking at it wondering Okay, so what's the point here, then

the calf mood load, it said more

And that was enough for them to fall down Institute before it, because this is something

as it appeared to them to be supernatural, that this calf now had something which none of the other idols had was capable of, you know,

communicating

at least as a sound or whatever. So that was enough to win them over. And just like the case, which happened in the case, in the case of

the idle Ganesh, you know, where, all around the world on the same day, you know, the idle

milk has started to, they were pouring milk over it as part of their Hindu worship, pouring milk over the statue. And the milk started to go into the mouth. Of course, Ganesh is the elephant had got that he's got a human body. And he's got a head of an elephant. And there's a story behind it about how he had a head before and they said that chopped off and, you know, they put a elephant's head and that the key became the elephant head got anyway. The point is, though, that, you know, and UK, all over India, different parts of the world where people were worshipping the God, Ganesh, the elephant had God and we're pouring milk over it, over the head, the top of the head, down over the

idol in the middle, it started to go in to what the area that would look at the mouth of the idol. And it's happened all over, you know, and we have to say, How was that? Well, of course, when you understand the world of the gym, it's not a problem. You know, it can be easily explained, when you don't have any idea of the world of the gym, then it looks like a miracle. You know, and this one always we have to look at, what's the end product of that the end product is that it affirmed for the people there shook

their belief in the elephant, God now became immutable. You couldn't touch it, if you came to them and said, No, this is just the eyelids. No, I've seen it. I've seen the elephant head God Ganesh drink milk, you explain to me how that took place. So is the point is this the same thing with the exorcisms of the Catholics, you know, where, you know, you had all these movies made about, you know, people were possessed, and they would hold up the cross, you know, window crosses held up on the holy water was sprinkled on them, you know, that people are jumping. And also,

if you don't understand the word of the jinn, then of course, you conclude that the evil spirit inside is being driven out by the power of, of Christ, you know, but in fact, it was only the affirmation of shirk,

in the presence of the jinn, who are controlling the people that were entered into those people at work, were affecting those people. Once the

shirt was affirmed, this idolatry was affirmed in the minds of the people through these ads, then they left they were not driven out

by the power of the Christ, through the cross or whatever, they left willingly, because their job was done. So this repeats itself, time and time again, with the idols of those who worship idols directly, or in dreams, or, you know, in visions, you know, people have visions in different parts of the world, where they've seen, you know, marry with the Christ child, and, you know, then that place becomes a holy place, a place of pilgrimage, people coming from all over the world. This just keeps repeating, you know, shavon, Satan is just playing with these people's faith and their souls, and trapping them in

idolatry, which is the negation of true belief in God. We're coming to an end. A couple more points did Jesus Moses, Abraham, all the messengers that God Almighty sent to guide humanity, and the last fundamental your problem have a peace and blessings be upon him Did they indulge in any of these practices or the companions of Jesus or the companions of Prophet Mohammed, those who were guaranteed paradise, the day and indulgent any of these acts that we're talking about that constitute the

nullifiers a toe heat and Woking people in the ground and people just that the other

day that we have examples? Of course not.

Of course not. That would be misguidance, those who are around Jesus and around Mohammed wa sallam, and around Moses, etc, they carried the message, the true followers carry the message they brought, which was to worship Allah alone, you know, so the religion, the bottom line is that the religion of God is one religion. And this is an important fact to remember, because people like to, you know, generalize and, and put it in such a way that, like, how do we know, there are so many religions out there? You know, how do we know that yours is the right one? Well, the bottom line is that there are not so many religions, there are only two religions. One is the religion of God. And the other is

the religion of Satan.

It's as simple as that. One is the religion of worshipping God alone, following him submitting to Him alone, and the other is worshiping other than God. Because if What if in your religion, you're worshiping other than God, then you are ultimately worshipping Satan,

Satan and those who are connected with him, etc. You know, so there are only two.

And we should keep that in mind, especially when explaining Islam to others, that, you know, it is not a whole bunch of, of religions out there that you have to go and check out in order to find out where which is the right one? No. All you need to do is look to see, who are they worshipping?

What are you going to find is that only in Islam, they are worshipping God, alone, without any partners, without any

taking away of his attributes and giving it in one way or another to the creation. It's only in Islam, that you find out all of the others, whether it is Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, shintoism, etc, all of the various forms of idolatry, which are out there. All of them have that common factor of idolatry there were other than God is worshiped. So, Christianity worships Jesus, believing that he is God.

But he got personal.

He wasn't God. He can never be God. He is a creation of God.

And those who believe in Buddha, and worship Buddha, same thing. He is a creation of God, no matter how righteous he may have been, you know, in fact, or whatever. But that didn't elevate him, beyond this, that status of a creation of God.

But we love Jesus, can we say that emphatically that we love him? Of course, we should love all those who are righteous, all those who are good,

are, are the sincerity of our faith also depends on loving Jesus, and believing in him as a prophet of God.

to not believe in him as a prophet of God is going against the revelation of God.

Okay, we know that and this is a conclude now, how much knowledge because most of our problems would go away here if we have a sincere and genuine attempt now to humbly go ahead and like what you said earlier to understand the Revelation the Quran and we have the example of the last fundament of the authentic hadith. And we see in there the first revelation that was sent it could be it could be some Arabic Allah the haluk. Read, recite proclaim, I mean this is the first revelations we see that the last the final messenger probably haven't peace and blessings be upon him. He said that the one who takes a path seeking knowledge God Almighty, Allah will make the way easy for him to Jenna. We

have other examples how the angels lower their wings of mercy to the seeker of knowledge. Let's talk about your in the last minute that we have, you've actually set up I mean, you are not only have you dedicated your life to clearing the many misconceptions about Islam. also educating people through your university. Can you talk to us how people can go ahead and get grounded in the deen with proper knowledge?

Well, the bottom line is that knowledge is the determining factor. distinguishing between right and wrong good and

So if we want to be clear, then it will come through knowledge, not through personalities, you know, emotions, emotions, should follow knowledge. If emotion precedes knowledge, then the emotion will block the mind from properly understanding realities in front of them. So, seeking knowledge has always been revered by all of the prophets of God. And as you mentioned, the number of statements that the Prophet Muhammad, the last of the prophets made that specificity upon all of them, you know, he spoke about how important knowledge is, and so much so, in another narration, he had said, that the whole world is cursed, and everything in it is curse, meaning that if we are addicted to

it, if we become addicted to this world, and the things that make up this world, our lives will be cursed,

we will not end this life happening, we will live a wretched life, if we are addicted to the dunya to this world. And, and the prophets, Allah went on to make an exception, he said, except for the remembrance of Allah,

except for the remembrance of Allah, that if we remember God, we reflect on his messages to us, his guidance, etc, then, that is not cursed, it can never be cursed.

It will always be good, it will always be blessed.

And the process Allah went on to add to it, the teacher, and the student,

basically telling us that this is the relationship that we should favor the most in this life, to be either a teacher, or a student, or both.

Because

what does the teacher do? He passes on or she passes on knowledge.

What does the student do? He or she

access gains knowledge. And then what makes that knowledge valuable is to act on the knowledge and to disseminate that knowledge. And that's why the prophet SAW Selim, it said that the best of you are those who learn the Quran, who learn and understand the teachings of the Quran, and pass that on to others. Not as some people mistakenly think, that had these were the browser cell and say, the halo command to Harlem and

they have taken this to be Cairo, Coleman hafeez. Al Khurana will have followed. The best of you are those who memorize the Quran, and have other people memorize it. That's not what the prophet SAW said.

What he said was, the best of you are those who learn the craft.

Learn the Quran, and this is very, very important because to a large degree in much of the Muslim world, people have gone to extremes. for memorization, I remember reading a story a few years back in the in Canada in Montreal, a Muslim woman beat her child to death because he was memorizing the grandfather.

The teacher was complaining that he wasn't you know, he is forgetting all the time. So she beat him and beat him up till he died.

I would imagine that, you know, this is the misunderstanding, or the lie that is circulated in, in the name of a Hadith, that the one who memorizes the Quran is able to take seven generations of his family to paradise with him.

Fake fabricated headed alight. So you find the families in places like Pakistan and others

who believe in this idea and it circulates amongst them, they will do you know, the father will sit down with all the kids and say, okay, you,

you, your job is to memorize.

We will deal with business, we will work and do everything that needs to be done for the family and everything we will take care of you. You just memorize the crime, because you're the one that's going to take us to gender.

Is it this is nonsense. This is total nonsense. It's a lie. People who have heard this and believed it, please know that this is a lie. So we need to get back to the way of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam.

He taught the Quran

he memorized the Quran.

People around him

around him memorize the Quran also. But the vast majority of his companions never memorized.

Many of them after he died, they did memorize. But still, the vast majority if it was understood that the most important thing in this Oh, what is really required of us is to focus on the meaning of the grant. What is the message in the Quran itself?

This is what will change, change, individuals change communities change the world. It's that understanding of the revelation. So, this should again become the focus for us as it was the focus for the

the early generation.

And

with that focus,

we know

what has happened in his in terms of the spread of Islam to all corners of the earth.

So, let us

have

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understanding, be blessed,

achieving the guidance

that the Koran explained

that I can get tabula rasa Buffy, who then in Mati This is what can witch that guidance. For those who fear a lot it's about

died.

Shay, where can people sign up to the university, international pet rescue provides degrees in Islamic Studies, bachelors, masters, and PhDs, as well as in Arabic, but it also provides knowledge in education degree, bachelor's and education in psychology, business and, and finance, Business Administration, information technology, etc. But the key which makes the International University unique is that the subjects are all taught from an Islamic perspective. That knowledge that secular knowledge which is well known in different parts of the world, is presented from an Islamic viewpoint. You know, because there is there is a place for Islam in every way.

So it is about knowing where Islam fits into our degrees, our specializations, whether it's engineering, medicine, it's driving a cab or whatever.

There is a place for Islam and we should know its place and ensure that we are living in accordance with the Islamic guidance in our lives. dangers Allah Hi, thank you so much, may God Almighty Allah continue to bless you preserve you, you and your family, your big family.

I mean, Bhargavi come and bless you for your efforts. I mean, and it helps so many people have

Oh, and speak very highly of you. They do for you.

May Allah bless both of us in this effort, and Charlie give us success in both his life and the next Amin Amin Amin, Joseph Nairobi. salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

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