Quranic Way To Give Dawah

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Nouman Ali Khan

Channel: Nouman Ali Khan

Topics: Comparative Religion,Dawah

Episode Notes

Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan delves into the nuances of Dawah about how to give Dawah properly to people.

Firstly, one shouldn’t be concerned about whether the person to whom Dawah is being given will change or not. It is entirely up to Allah to guide people if they are sincerely seeking guidance. Our job as a Muslim is to give Dawah to as many people as possible and invite them to Islam using wisdom and care. One should not reduce Islam to harsh debates and even if you have to then do so with the best of character and don’t let our ego and Shaytan get in the way. 

Ingredients of the Dawah of the Noble Prophet ﷺ that gave it strength:

  • His impeccable and astounding character
  • Credibility 
  • Honesty
  • Intelligence
  • Truthfulness
  • He had credence within the community and he was someone who people could rely on.

Episode Transcript

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rubella human a[???]aba virgin. Elizabeth Robbie COVID hikma well known a bottle Hashanah, Raja dill humility here. In Arabic, Allah, Allah, Allah and Sevilla, he looked at him from Russia, Saudi Arabia, silly Emily Wagner looked at him in the senate cocconi. I mean, you're open. I mean, from what I was told about this gathering that, first of all, I'd like to express how honored I feel, and what a great opportunity it is to be in such a noble company. What I was told about this gathering was that there are people in this audience that have quite a bit of experience in the field of that one, they're very active in that field, in various capacities. And this is that were done not only

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to the Muslim community, but also to the non Muslim community. And of course, the idea that I recited, for anybody who is involved in this field is probably very, very familiar with this idea. And they've heard it many, many times. What I'd like to share with you today is that this ayah contains in it an incredible number of lessons. It's it's a pretty remarkable brief statement in the Quran. But it contains in it volumes of wisdom. And what I like to do in these 30 minutes is the highlight at these two dimensions of this ayah. So there's two, there's many ways of extrapolating or benefiting from this ayah. But there are two that I'd like to highlight before you. In a rough

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translation Allah is saying, with a big call to the path or the way of your master bill hikma, you can translate that as using wisdom, while more Eva still has center and to give and by using good counsel, good advice, watch ideal home, build it here and argue with them or debate with them, engage with them in a way that is better in Naropa, who will be Mangala and civility your master certainly he is far more knowledgeable of who is misled or who is lost straight away from his path. Well, who will be moved in and he knows the people that are committed to guidance. Now in that statement, when Allah says the what I'd like to start, he says call to the path of your master. And

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the idea of calling or inviting someone. The first interesting thing is you don't invite someone to a path, you invite someone to a destination. If you give someone an invitation, you give them an address, which is not the road, but what goes at the end of that road. So it's really unique that in this ayah, instead of Allah saying, call them to the destination, he said, Call them to the path. With Elizabeth Arabic, this is unique already. This has many implications. Think about this, when you're calling some people to a road or a path. That means not everybody has the same starting point. Not everybody is traveling at the same speed. Not everybody is actually making the same kind

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of progress. Some people are far ahead in the journey, some people are far behind in the journey. And you have to assess Who are you calling, and maybe the person you're calling they're far behind on the road. And that's okay, so long as they're on the road. And some people are far ahead on the road. And that's okay, because they are, you know, more capable to be farther ahead on the road. And some people when they get on this road, they're going to travel very, very fast. And they're going to make progress very, very fast. And some people who get on this road, you know, some people are on a, you can imagine they're in a car, or on a motorcycle, and some people are on a on a cycle. And

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other people are walking, other people are running and other people are walking and there's some people that are crawling. But so long as they're on the road, and they're making progress, the job is being done. And what that does is it's not one standard for that hour, when you're when you're giving downloads to someone, and they even accept this Dean, or maybe you're giving that one to someone in your family who's not very particularly practicing. You don't expect from them the same level of progress. And the same kind of change that you had, or their brother had or their cousin had or somebody else you can't compare them to anybody else. So long as there is some kind of

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progress. It's okay. So long as there's some kind of and by the way, there are sometimes people that better on a road, and they're just standing there on the side. Have you ever seen that? They're not even moving? And you think, why isn't he moving? Well, you know what, maybe they're changing the tire, maybe they're fixing something, and then they're gonna be on their way. There are some people who have made quite a bit of progress, but you don't see it. But you don't see that they're changing or evolving. I don't see any differences, because a lot of the differences a lot of times the change that is happening is on the inside. They're still thinking about things. They're pondering things

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are reflecting things. You might give somebody advice

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And you think nothing happened, I told him to pray. And he still didn't pray. But he's thinking about it. And maybe three weeks from now from now, they'll start praying, it takes him some time to process. And that's part of the beauty of it as severely Arabic. The other thing is the bhava. You know, it could have been withdrawal in Islam, called Islam. But he didn't say that he said, the path of your master. So this, this phrase, love big is also important because now a life thing, this road, this path that we are inviting towards is owned by Allah,

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from beginning to end, it is owned by Allah, which means we cannot act like we own this road. We are also travelers on this road, the one who gives that law is not in any better position than the one he is giving that law to. Though I'm speaking to you, I have a mic in front of me right now, that does not necessarily make me a better traveler on this road than yourself. And it may be that the people who receive this message are far better at traveling on this road than the one inviting them that happens all the time. And so we have to the diary has to be humble to the fact that they're not calling to something that they own. Even the knowledge that I have, I actually don't own that

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knowledge. It's a gift from Allah, it's his, and I'm calling to something that's his, you know, and we have to separate ourselves from that because a lot of times, it's natural. When you're in the business of giving advice. You start feeling like you're better than people,

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just naturally, even subconsciously, subconsciously even if the way you the way you look at people can change. You know, you can become condescending, without an arrogant without saying anything arrogant, but you can feel it on the inside. That piece Rebecca keeps me and keeps you from going down that road. With Earl Elizabeth Arabic. Now there are three ways of calling. You could look at it one way, three, three ways of calling to Allah. He says bill hikma will more enlightened has an eligibility, yes. And he says call them with wisdom, call them with good counsel, and argue with them debate with them in a way that is best. So I'll have one way of looking at it, then I'll come

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back and I'll look at it yet another way. Okay. So the first way I like to look at it is there are different groups in society, different categories in society. And according to this ayah it seems that one of the ways you can categorize society, as you can think of it as the influential or intellectual leaders of society, the professors, the thinkers, the people in the media, the people that are heads of the major businesses in a society, the political leadership of a society, etc, etc. Those are the intellectual and innocence elite of a society. Then there is the general population, huge population, that's the majority of the people, right? This is all kinds of people

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that work in all kinds of professions, or they don't have a profession. These are the men and the women, the children, the general masses of a community. Right. So the there's the intellectual kind of elite innocence. And then there's the general masses. And then there's a third category, I'll tell you about that in a second. The thing is possible NASA laughably rahula him, you talk to people according to their level, if I'm sitting in a university, and I'm speaking to only professors, the way I will speak is different. If I'm speaking to a group of teenagers, the way I have to speak is different. And what the IRS seems to be suggesting is one of the implications is there is a group

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that you cannot give them simple reminder. They need something intellectual. They need something profound and deep. You know, they need something at the level of hikma, something heavier, then there are people that you know, they come to the Juma prayer, you cannot give deep philosophy and heavy legal discussion at the Juma prayer, these people just need a simple reminder. And more I'd love to give them simple reminder. So for each category of people, there's a different kind of gala that we're after university could be a PhD thesis, that's also the power of a university, you know. And then on the on the other hand, the language that you use the, you know, the style that you use

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is going to become different entirely when you're talking to the people at a different level. But then there's a third group of people. And the third group of people is a small minority, but they're very loud. These people don't just listen to what you have to say there's some people sometimes they listen, sometimes they don't listen, sometimes they're interested. Sometimes they're not interested. But then there are sometimes there are people that are aggressive.

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They want to fight with you. They want to argue with you. They want to insult what you're saying refute you. They want to be they want to poke at you. They want to create controversy, like in the case of the profits of

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Allah harden your cylinder, the majority of people of Macau were quiet. Majority was quiet, some people were very loud and would not have was very loud. And Mujahid was very loud. You see, in Medina, there were some people that were very loud and aggressive against the Prophet, the vast majority of the people of Medina, even the non Muslims required. They were among the masses of people. Now those people that want to debate with you and argue with you and, you know, attack Islam, even nowadays, there are people that are on the attack against Islam. There's a piece of that, what about them, but it's not that well released,

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which ideal home military heroes and engage them, debate with them. Don't run away from them, debate them, but don't use their tactics.

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Their tactics will be they will, they will, their voice will get loud, they will use hateful speech, they will use the crowd against you. They'll use these kinds of dirty tricks, Alexa, Java home builder theisen debate them, but in a way that is better, with something better. Meaning not just we have better arguments, but the way in which we argue is better. They're getting angry, yelling and screaming, we're calm, we don't get upset. We remain cool and collected. They go this way that way and the other way, but we stay on point we stay focused the Quran for those of you that are interested, a great example of what jardel humility he acts and in the Quran is sort of Shara the

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26th surah. Towards the end is the debate between Musashi, salaam and crown. That's a very good case study of jasmine humility here. How did Musa handles around, because Finland is a very loud, angry, aggressive, arrogant politician who's attacking Moosa constantly. And he's navigating it in the best possible way. It's incredible. And he's got phenomenal Has everybody on his side, the only one on the side of musallam is the quiet heroine. You know, so he has, you know, and yet he's a and if you study those IOD by the end of it, finally stumped founders defeated in his own court, at the hands of musasa. So let's jump into it. Now, these three one way that I told you is that in these three

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words, to call with wisdom, to call with good advice, and to debate in a better way, is three different populations, the intellectuals with wisdom, the common people with good advice, and then debate with people that you want to be debate. And this is important, also, for another reason, I should not debate with everybody.

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Like if some non Muslim comes to you and asks you a question you should you shouldn't just say, what about your Bible? What about this? You see, your book has these mistakes? Oh, hold on, I didn't come here for debate. I just wanted to eat some food isn't easy.

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This is why in the IRA, for those of you that are and many of you are very familiar with the Arabic language, you'll notice in the URL is not the old home in a civilian of the call odo call.

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He didn't say call them he's just a call.

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Because it's open ended. But when it came to judaize, Anjali lavon bility here and debate them. In other words, what that means is, that one is for everyone. But argument is for a very specific group of people. It's not for everyone. Do not confuse that word with argument. That's a last resort. And it's used for only the people who are aggressive to begin with. Now, let's go back. Another way of looking at these three phrases in Sharla hotel, but I'd like to share with you

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the reliability of the cabin hikma, one more a lot in house and I can also mean that you have to that is out of bionovo sense what that means in Simple English. Call people wisely.

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called people to aleste path wisely. Sometimes, for example, I meet a lot of mothers from around the world. And they say my son doesn't pray. What should I keep telling him to pray? And he doesn't pray. I even yelled at him today and he still didn't pray.

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And I tell them other you know why he doesn't pray? Because you're telling him to pray.

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And the more you tell him, the lessee will pray.

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Why? Because your call he says but I'm giving Dawa. Yeah, but you're not using wisdom.

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That's not wisdom.

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A teenage boy, an 18 year old, a 17 year old you have to be a little wise with the way you talk to them the way you want to convince them of something. And you have to be very patient. It's easier to come down a wild horse than to take care of a teenager and get them to do something in to two very different things. And so what we do a lot of times in our adult lives, we don't use wisdom. Some people for example, in my own family

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There are lots of people who listen to my lectures. But there are some people in my family, I will never tell them to do anything. I will get my friend to tell them

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because if I told them, they won't do it,

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they're allergic to my voice. Okay? So if even if somebody else said it, exactly the same thing, but since it came from someone else, they'll listen.

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A lot of wives try to give that one to their husbands. Bad idea.

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Bad idea.

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He will listen to anyone in the world.

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But because the goodbyes coming from you, lady. Not gonna happen. It's not going to happen. You have to find other ways of reaching. And sometimes that way is not with words. Wisdom also means that you're not only giving speeches and quoting and a lot of people a lot of bad wisdom, you know, or lack of wisdom. A lot of times people say, Hey, watch this video. Watch it, watch it. Please don't make them watch it.

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Or watch it.

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Sure. You know,

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we have to sometimes that was just Hey, let's come along. Let's go for a drive. Get some ice cream. And hey, look, can I just stop over, I just have to pray and you just pull over and you pray at the washer, then they just come in anyway. And they feel good coming into the lesson. You don't say anything. And as I see my state right, it's good. Right now you

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don't say anything.

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That's hikma means you have to use tactics. You know, other ways of getting people closer to Allah that are sometimes direct and sometimes not direct at all.

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There are people the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam dealt with that he did not preach to, he just dealt with them. And the way he dealt with them, they came to Islam. This is the Messenger of Allah, the recipient of the Quran, you will imagine anybody who walks in, he will start reciting Quran to them. He didn't. He didn't do that. He dealt with different people differently, because that's sigma. This is how you call people. In other words, we have to become a little bit of a psychologist. We have to study people understand people where they're coming from what they need to hear, you know.

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So a lot of times, for instance, especially within families, I see these scenarios, you know, you have, sometimes I I'll give a speech at a program and a lot of parents are very eager to make their children listen. So they'll bring their, you know, their son or their daughter up to me and say, Please give him some advice.

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You know, this is the worst thing you can do. Because you just embarrass this young man or this young woman, first of all, and for no reason at all. Now, they hate me for the rest of their life.

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Because they won't forget this. So I take I say to the mother, or the father, okay, I'll give them advice. Don't worry. And I take them to the side and say I am so sorry.

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Just relax. Not going to give you advice. Take it easy.

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How's it going? What college do you go to just have some other conversation? Just some other conversation. This is part of wisdom, especially within our family, friends. Some of you are at the office. And some of you become so obsessed with data. You have a non Muslim at the office every day, you see. And by the way, there's only one God.

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Easy, easy. You don't have to do that day in and day out. That's hikma. The second thing is okay, when you are going to give a message. If you do get a chance to give a message. What is that good, good message. And more

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and more a lot comes from the word wild. And what that actually means advice that which is the heart.

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Please remember that advice that reaches the heart. Now. And on top of that Allah mentions beautiful advice that reaches the heart.

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In other words, you don't make someone feel guilty, because that's not beautiful. You don't make someone feel ashamed. You don't make someone feel dirty. You don't make someone feel less. You give them what they what they need. And by the way, what reaches the heart, if somebody is going through trouble, then they need advice about hope.

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When somebody is going through sadness, you know, you give them advice that will help them cope with their sadness. In other words, the diary the speaker, the one calling to Allah is not saying here's my message, let me give it to you. That is understanding what's going on with this person. What do they need? What advice do they need? What trouble are they having? You know, the Christian community is much better at this than we are.

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And Moses and Hassan they're much better than we are. I've seen it. I'll give you an example. I was at a church some time ago. Yeah, I go to a church sometimes to understand what they do. So I go to a church and

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The speech was 10 minutes. The hotbar was 10 minutes. It was on a Wednesday night.

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And after the 10 minutes, you know what the the preacher did. There's an audience of about 100 people, he says, So who's having any trouble?

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And somebody I just lost my job

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is pretty hard right now. What's your name? JOHN? Okay, everybody, let's pray for john.

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And they all start praying for him.

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And then people come and pat him on the shoulder, it's going to be okay. And somebody else comes to him and says, hey, there's a new, there's an opening in my company, why don't you give me a resume? And okay, who else is having any trouble? I just got divorced.

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Then they have a whole conversation. And they pray for him. What what are they doing, they're actually trying to find out what's going on with people. If you want to be a die, if I want to be a DI, I first have to be a listener.

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I have to be a listener. We are so interested in being heard. We are not interested in hearing.

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In order to give a low level hustler, you have to spend time with people. You have to understand what's going on with them so you can give them appropriate advice. That's part of wisdom. You know what I'm saying? Then, I'm saying that a really big part of our dialogue is building relationships with people

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is understanding what they're going through. your intention is not to convert them. Allah did not say here would go home in an exam solimo home or something? No, no, no.

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That's not the point. Call them to a road. Maybe that road one day, we'll get them to take Shahada Maybe, maybe not. That's okay. But they still need good advice. The good advice in the Quran is for all human beings.

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And then sometimes you're trying to give good advice and somebody doesn't want to take your advice. You tried to help someone and they became aggressive anyway. And they started yelling at you. That's what is applied. What applies then, was the ideal humility here. You don't just walk away you can you can defend yourself, but be dignified in the way that you defend yourself. Now, having said all these, this is not the conclusion of the ayah. The rest of the I'll briefly share with you. In narangba Hua and a movie Manuel De Anza de vahana movie most of the very profound words. He says your master in fact, he is the one who knows the last ones, the ones lost from his path. In other

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words, I don't decide who is guided and who is misguided.

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Somebody looks like they are misguided for me from my eyes. Allah says you don't know anything.

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You don't know anything. You don't know if that'll be the next alum of the oma. You have no idea. He is the only one who knows what's possible. You know, in Arabica, multiple time he is the one who knows, you don't know. For a diary, they have to assume that they don't know where the people's demand is, because Yvonne is inside the heart. I can only see the outside, I can't see the inside. So I will never be able to judge what's going on. I don't know what's going on with people. I don't know where the man is. Maybe they're human as much better than I am. Maybe they just don't know any better yet. So Allah says, You don't get to judge.

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Because a lot of times with days, when they're giving Dawa, and people are not listening, they get angry. These people are so misguided, they don't even listen.

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You know, I gave so many speeches, and they're still the same way.

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Which Prophet did that? Did the Prophet ever advise people and then get angry and say, I just spoke to you and you're still like this.

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That's not the way of profits in North America who Adam.

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And then he says, well, who are the most and in he's the one who knows people that are committed to guidance. In other words, even ourselves, Allah knows better where we stand. So we need to be in a very humble position when we give Dawa when we when we share the message of this thing. This is a service to humanity. It's an act of a Baba, that was an act of a Baba. And it's it just like Salah has a protocol will do as part of the protocol of Sabah standards standing and then going into cooler and then coming up and going in to do this part of the protocol salon. The same way this is the protocol of Dawa. It's how do you do that? What are the policies that you follow? What are the

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principles that you follow? When you invite and then such a succinct, very brief one IRA, allows origin has really captured everything a person needs to know about data and when you understand this, and then you study the data of the prophets across the Quran, you'll see this ayah come to life. So this is the theory. And the stories of the prophets and how they spoke is the case studies. That's the proof of concept. What are the different situations and how do you give more regular kasana? How do you do that? What will hikma How do you do juggling

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hear all of its captured there. So these are the few ideas that I wanted to remind myself of and all of you of me allows me to make our data acceptable in any way shape or form that we give it and may allows origin you know, accept all the efforts the good work that is being done here. I'm sure you guys don't have any questions at all. Or I hope you guys don't have any questions at all. But in case you do in shallow god, I'm here does that come along?

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Too much, Robin, thank you very much to alpha says no man. He is very, you know, observing the time it will feel his promise not to be more than 30 minutes. So Mashallah a very good reminder, you know, a nice manobo of Dawa, I believe from from just one single person, the prime, which I think really fit the theme tonight, when we have representatives from many NGOs who are actively involved in doing Dawa. Not just calling people to Islam, but I believe, you know, actively involved in many social economy activities, taking care of the welfare of the people, education, healthy, so many things. So Mashallah, we really benefited from your shorter skirt on tonight. So, as promised,

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if we have any questions, I would like to invite

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the questioner to Firstly, to introduce yourself your name. And if you come from any institution, maybe you want to let us know from from which organization you are from? Please the question, please, short, you know, shorten your question to not more than three minutes. So we have the microphone on your left hand side. So I will have to invite if there's any question please come and you may address your question.

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Amal Kumar, I'm

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just a simple question. But hope get long answer. I think the most important thing to do in our is, if less

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and more difficult to do is his diploma in his last

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classes? Can you give a few tips? How to maintain this is

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your answer.

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So, for those of you that are not familiar with the Arabic terms as Lawson is the farmer, what are the great question is the hardest thing to do in double work is to remain sincere, to keep your intentions pure. And also remain constant. Meaning you can you can be doing this work and eventually you get tired is there I'll take a vacation. I don't want to do this anymore. Right? So so that can happen. Both of those things can happen. And of course, eventually you can you can do it so much that you start thinking that it's just become almost like a performance. It's not even, you know genuine anymore if you're not genuinely concerned about people anymore. There are a couple of things

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that I can say about that. You know, my favorite example of Islam actually is musante salaam.

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Because masala Islam when he asked us when I told him to speak to Fidel and he asked for Harun.

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And when he asked for her own, he first of all acknowledged his own shortcomings who are upcycled, mainly the sudden he's more eloquent speaker than I am. It's amazing to me because Moosa and Islam

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is the most quoted in the Quran.

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And he says, Harun speaks better.

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And Harun spoke barely in the Quran.

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But Musashi says he's a better speaker. So the first thing is that you have to acknowledge your weaknesses. And you have to be complete. You don't see yourself in competition with other days.

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People come to me all the time. You know, I like Buffy make more.

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And I say me too.

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Is there competition? No, no. There are people that are providing a remarkable service. They're doing some amazing things. And they're doing things that I cannot do.

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And the other people are doing things. I'm doing things that somebody else cannot do. And that's okay. We do whatever best we can. But we acknowledge our shortcomings and we're not ashamed to acknowledge our shortcomings. That's number one. Number two, part of the class is giving other people credit.

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Musashi standing in front of a lot and the first one, he says, Harun is a good idea. Makes a recommendation for someone else. You know,

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Instead of just telling them by Yala, you can give anything you want, you can turn a stick into a snake. You can fix my tongue.

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Why don't you just fix my tongue? Then I don't have that problem and I don't need how to. I'll be the superhero myself. No, he says, Give me how to sew giving other people position giving other people credit bringing them up. That's part of your loss.

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Then the most beautiful thing came to somebody hacker coffee when

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he says give him to me. So we can do this. We have you together.

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What is this we have to do with our they're not going to stand in front of phenomena insists upon Allah Subhana. Allah Subhana, Allah subhanaw taala? They're not going to do that. Why is he saying we will declare a law of perfection together, you know what that is? When you say that a lie is perfect, then you are reminding yourself that you are

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not perfect.

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We will together remind each other that only allies perfect. When I make a mistake, he will correct me and I'll be okay. Because I know that the only one perfect is Allah. And when he makes a mistake, I will correct him. And that will be RSP

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RSP. It is not just an ally is perfect. But we remind each other we are imperfect. What does that mean for die? When a die is corrected?

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When a die is criticized, and a die, he gets angry?

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You're gonna correct me I'm on YouTube.

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You know?

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No, because that means you don't understand this V. This V, it means perfection is only for Obama. And he asked, give me someone who can correct me. And I can correct them, we can help each other. And that's the attitude of a guy that keeps what is last. And by the way that also keeps is the comma who should be as ready, give him give me my brother, and He will give me backup, when I'm getting tired. When I'm slowing down. He's going to push me. And when he's backing up, I'm going to push him you cannot do this work alone. You need people that support you, that carry you. Because if you try to do this alone, you will burn out, you will run out of energy. And those are just a quick

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example of how both karma and Islam are beautifully captured in the story of Masada.

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Sure.

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So

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my name is Adam. I'm from Alice law in association called Alice law. So I'm a teacher by day and a father by night. So you say something about becoming a psychologist to understand people? Right? Okay. In my school, there are a lot of students and you know, their behavior, you know, distinct with each other is different behavior, you know, not the same behavior, you know, I mean, so can you tell me, how do I, you know, how do I like the general rule in anything in understanding people? How do I do that?

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Oh, man, thank you.

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general rule and understanding people, Oh, my God.

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That was the easiest thing that I can tell you is,

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in order to really, especially young people, if you want to understand young people, then you have to get them to open up to you. And they don't open up to you in a group, like individually, if you befriend young kids, and, you know, teenagers, etc, and they get them to a point where they speak to you. Well, you're not speaking to them. A lot of times, we're just giving the speech. We're doing the talking. If you really want to understand people, you know, you. What I used to do, for example, when I used to work with you, is I did not give them juice, I didn't, I took them to go get doughnuts, I took them to the beach, played basketball with them. I did other things with them,

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until they saw me as a friend. And then they would call me in the middle of the night and say, Hey, I have a problem. There's this girl or something. And then I will talk to them, then I'm now ready to give them advice because I until then I have no idea what's going on in his head. I have no clue. So even if I give them advice, maybe it has no benefit for them because they're in a different different frequency. So breaking that ice means you have to interact with young people. And the more you do the more you'll develop an understanding of them. It's simple, isn't it? your close friends you understand them? Why do you understand them because you spend a lot of time with them. You deal

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with them, you interact with them, you see how they behave? So as a daddy especially in the teacher capacity, you are in a diary capacity. So building that relationship with your students is very important in Sharma

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Okay, we have one more question. May I just want to

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see a color of hands if you intend to ask any more questions?

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Release or

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so we have

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one more there. Okay, so yes. So So after this brother, there'll be one last question. And then inshallah we're going to end the session. So please read the Go ahead.

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Salaam Alaikum.

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My name is Dr. Amit Shah, I'm an oncologist by profession, and I'm from ipsi. Penang, which is a Da Hua society. Now, I just want to share with you a few things that we do so that we can learn more from you. The problem we have today is, as you know, everybody has easy access to the technology and internet.

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And it's not easy for us to speak about scientific miracles of Quran to everyone to be tried to find the right people to speak to. And the non Muslims in Penang, they succeed because of the way they penetrate one of the ways healthcare, so they provide health care, because they know sick people are desperate. And therefore when they portray their religion, people tend to get more interested, which we lack a little bit. However, one of the problems we face is the misconceptions and perceptions about Islam. Before we can even show a good example, they would come back and tell us Islam is about terrorism. Islam is about this and that you do all these backwards things because of the information

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they read. As you know, there might be 100 good websites or Islam, that people websites about anti Islam. So they're confused. So how do we penetrate to these people to look beyond the misconceptions of Islam? How do we tell them look at the beauty of Quran? Don't look at Muslims, if that's the right thing to say, Don't look at Muslims today. But look at Islam. How would we tell them that? Thank you?

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It's a very pertinent and a very painful question. The first thing I'd like to share with you is yes, Internet has a lot of propaganda against Islam. But then a lot of teachers how to handle this problem, I would argue Yes. And I go back to my default position. The story of Mossad is why I go back there is because when this dollar of Messiah started, officially started with the pharaoh phenomenon had the entire media of Egypt. And he was using every angle possible to this show not only that Moosa is a liar. But yes, how Babita Riccati kumal Musleh he will Messiah and Harun are going to destroy your lifestyle, they are a threat. They are basically terrorists. This is the this

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is the messaging around across Egypt. So the idea that Islam is dangerous, Islam is a threat, as far as violent, and therefore stay away from it. This kind of messaging that you're finding online today is not only something that we experienced now, this has been there. This is this is actually an old tactic. We also have to acknowledge, secondly, the difficult reality. There are Muslims who have done horrible things and continue to do horrible things in the name of Islam. And they even if they are a very, very small minority, they are still Muslims. And they their actions are so loud. And the media uses their actions and makes them so loud, that our voices are no longer heard. That is a very

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serious problem.

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To me, the solution to that problem is a few things, we have to first of all acknowledge that no matter how much we say don't look at the Muslims. That's never going to work.

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That is a horrible argument.

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The prophets, I said, I'm going to say look at Quran, don't look at me.

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Look and look at the book of Allah don't look at the Sahaba.

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The we the reason people came to Islam is because of the character of the believers. A lot of the people that came to Islam, in this part of the world in Southeast Asia is because of the way Muslims carried themselves in business.

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A huge portion of people, they didn't say we were on but let me tell you in business,

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you know, we cannot use that as an excuse. So then what do we do? Because I cannot change how other Muslims are behaving. At the very, very least the organization that you're a part of, or the efforts that you're a part of, they should actually doesn't matter what people say you should be the best. You know, social services organizations of all.

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I can tell you most people are not attracted to religion because of arguments.

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I said, the last video on becoming hikma. hikma is high level. Most people are not high level. It's what lower Eva can hustler, good counsel and good counsel touches What did I say? It touches the heart. You touch the heart when you actually serve people. When you when you're helping

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People when you're engaged with people when they see you, and when they see you, there'll be a contradiction. You people are really nice, but Islam is really bad. And you said, That's okay, we're still nice. And you don't argue you just keep serving, eventually they say something is wrong, one of this is not correct.

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One of this is not correct. So they're going to have to decide whether they're going to believe the media, or they're going to believe what they see with their eyes with you what they experience with you, you're going to have to create that contradiction. That's, that's what our responsibility has become now. And we may not be able to do it at an international scale, but we have to start doing it at least at a very local scale. You know, at least my neighbor is confused, wait, Muslims are bad, and why are you so nice? At least I confuse my neighbor, that's,

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you know, that's what we have to now become, inshallah God.

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My name is sliding from EDA center.

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You're giving a

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very simple formula called the protocol, a tower from this ayah, you mentioned at the very beginning of the speech, focusing more on how to do the hour to non Muslim

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and try to bring the perspective

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towards the workers of Islam,

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which is very prominent proclivity.

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Now, even in Malaysia, where one group claiming that they're on the right path, and others

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not with them is on the wrong path and then we wasting time

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hitting each other writing on the internet and so on and so forth.

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So, what is the advice to this group, as well as we are coming from different NGOs, as a reminder, so that we focus on this on the on the dour, but

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not focusing on

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on hitting each other?

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Which which causing a lot of problem and bad image to even on almost all of them? So it's a fantastic question. I'm really grateful that you asked that question.

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As a student of Quran, I can tell you that the case study for Muslims becoming divisive, and undoing the Dawa is actually the the study of when we saw the Israelites and how they broke apart, and how they use the knowledge of the religion.

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How to use the knowledge of the religion, to

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undermine each other.

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A large soldier will describe, well, metaphorical images.

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They didn't fall into division until after knowledge had come to them.

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In other words, knowledge was used as a means of fighting against each other.

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Because for them for when we saw it, what happened was one scholar, one island, people come and listen to him. Then there's some other island people come and listen to him. And this island says, Why are we listening to him, I lost half my customers.

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So he starts giving speeches against that guy, and how wrong he is and how they shouldn't be misguided by him. It became like market competition.

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Islam became an industry to them. The religion became an industry where they're all competing with each other. That's all it became. It wasn't about the truth anymore.

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The same thing applies within the oma not just with scholars, but also with organizations, we have a double organization, they have a double organization. Why are they Why are there more people at their organization?

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Why did they their convention was more successful than our convention? You know what, we will have our convention on the same exact day.

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That's what we're gonna do. Yeah.

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That's when we saw in behavior.

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That's what that is, you know. And so we have to first acknowledge that this work, if you you know, there are going to be multiple efforts. It's okay to have 100 different organizations, it's completely fine.

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And it's okay that they Some people say why can't we just have one organization? No, it's never going to happen. Just like we can't have one family.

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Every family works differently. So it's okay. Every organization works differently. Sometimes you come together and do something together and most of the time you do your own

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It's completely fine.

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So for some efforts, everybody unites for some causes everybody unite for some project, everybody unites, and then they go their own way. That's complete. And that's actually the recommended course of action. As far as Muslims hating each other, and you know, bashing each other and kind of that kind of thing I tell you, that is the worst thing we could have done to the oma. Because when Muslims are fighting each other, you know who's hurting the most. First of all, non Muslims are no longer interested in Islam, because these people even hate each other. But the more important, the more dangerous conclusion of that is, we lose our next generation.

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The next generation of Muslim says these old people, all they do is fight each other. I'm not interested in Islam. We're in the Latina ui funkita. Me and Barbie him Latisha came in who married those who got the book after them, they are doubtful about it altogether. They don't they're not even interested in the religion. We're destroying our next generation because of this kind of argument. I would suggest to you if there's a debate like that happening, and people come to you, and there are lots of debates happening in Malaysia, by the way, and people ask me, so what is your opinion aside?

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So I can be on one side or the other side? I don't have an opinion.

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And actually, I have a lot of opinions, but I'll never tell you.

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You know,

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and that should be the policy you develop, some conversations are worth killing.

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They don't deserve to be kept going. They deserve to be buried. So when they are brought up at a party or at a machine or the gathering you say not interested

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just not interesting. Somebody brought it up this morning.

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What do you think about the shears into Sunday's I was like, I don't think about that.

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I'm thinking about lunch, so I'm hungry.

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Don't you don't have to get involved in these debates. You know, it's because we keep bringing bringing them back to life, that the problem continues. We don't have to bring them back to life, we can bring better things back to life. There are other priorities of the oma that are not being addressed, that we can make into our priority. So that's that's, you know, a small bit of you know what I think about this problem there are there's lots to say about this issue of how Muslims have now become divisive. I would finally like to add this ayah is not just about that word to non Muslims. I would argue this ayah is about that word itself, which means Muslims or non Muslims, it

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doesn't matter. Even within Muslims. There are some circles where you need hikma other circles where you need a lower eyelid Hashanah, other circles where you need the ability here. It actually applies universally barakallahu li walakum wa salaamu Alaikum wa

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I consider him one of the lucky barakato. Thank you very much to all those who