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me. I'll continue my discussions with you about Ibrahim alayhis. Salam this week. And just to quickly remind you, that the last thing we discussed in some detail is him questioning First of all, where their religious practices come from. And he simply posed a question that they didn't have a satisfying answer to. So they tried to make it sound like questioning that would be questioning his own heritage, questioning his identity. And when he simply called them out for them and the ancestry itself being confused. The unknown, Quantum antimo, biocompatible le mubin. They try to make it sound like basically an under under kind of a threat. So they said to him, Are you serious? Did you
actually say that? Are you? Are you bringing us the you dare to bring us the truth? Or you're just kidding, right? And we talked about that, how they tried to put that pressure on him. And so this week, we're gonna look at his response. And the first thing about their responses, he didn't come out and make his claim to what he believes. In the beginning of this conversation, he started the conversation with a question. And he started a conversation with what is not making sense to him. So the idea of truth is not I believe this, and therefore you are wrong. That wasn't his journey. I believe this and therefore, you're wrong. It's actually I've been raised to believe what you what
you've given me. And I'm not convinced of it. So I sought out the truth. And here's what the truth is. You see, like, even in our Shahada, there's a negation first, right? La Ilaha. And then a lot, right, so the idea of that being behind that being, that doesn't matter what culture what society you and I were raised in what religion you may have been brought up in, you discovered that there's something missing in the concept of God, or the gods that you were introduced to? Aren't Gods at all. And I don't just mean Gods as in some people believe in mythology or some people even a trinity or idols or whatever isms, not just that somebody God could be there just science, somebody else's
Gods could just be themselves. But whatever gods somebody was raised with the ultimate ideal that somebody was raised with, when someone truly ponders Dolan's argument is they discovered that they are not worthy of that place at all and only allies. So he's first questioning why do you people put these idols and the stories behind them? Why do you put them on this pedestal? I can't seem to understand the justification for it.
And then only after expressing why he can't be convinced of that.
That then he comes to his own claim, which is what now his response on Bagram bukem so he's gonna respond to them and say
bunraku Kumara Bustamante, one of your master all of you is the master of the skies in the earth, living fatahna hoonah who fashion and created them out of nothing all of them disguise in the earth well under an identical ministry he did and I am witness over that reality against
All of you. So in that statement, there's a few things. First thing to note is the word ban, which is half a bottle. And there's different ways it's been described in Arabic. What that does is they gave two options, right? Are you seriously bringing us the truth? Or are you joking, but they put a lot of stress on Are you joking? You must be the kinds of kids that just joke around and tamina Larrabee verbalize Mia was used stress was placed on it. And he understands what that's what they're pressuring him to try to say. So he says No, in fact, so that know that apart from him, that button is actually saying, You want me to say that I'm just kidding and dismiss this. I'm going to start by
saying no. So he first rejects that pressure, openly rejects that pressure. And then he responds. And he says, The master of all of you is the master of disguise. And the and this is the first time he's talking about a lot. And he's openly talking about a lanell. And this statement of his is actually as offensive as crushing all the idols and breaking all the idols because this is breaking the idols in their minds. Even if the idol stands in the temple. The idols broken in the mind when you come out and say, there is no other rub than the envelope of all of you is that above all of the skies and all of the earth in other words, there is no separate God for the earth. Separate God for
some of you separate God for someone else, separate master separate nurture, someone else takes care of the sky, and someone else takes care of the earth. It is one single rub, but it will
run broken Rubble, somehow it will. And then he goes further and says, Well, I love the Fatah ohana, the one who molded and created all of them altogether. In other words, he's calling on it's a very subtle and beautiful thing that he just said, he, you know, for sure also means to come to, like health, urban football is used in sort of milk, right? To see any crack or any opening, when you are creating something new, then there's a lot of breaking and molding and that sort of thing involved, right. And that's kind of the implicit meaning inside the word Fatah. It's a it's an incredible usage, because the idols that they have made, they broke pieces of wood to make them, they broke
pieces of marble and stone to make them right. And his speaking of making, the maker of all of this is your rub. And the irony of it is the gods you want me to merge worship you made them. They didn't make you, you made them. You are their father, I'm calling on your father. You see, there's a really beautiful phrase that he used and the de facto Ravana The one who molded this and speaking because you guys know some things about manufacturer clearly, your your your tradition has taught you how to manufacture things, in this case, idols. Well, speaking of manufacture, let me introduce you to the one who manufactured you the skies and the earth altogether, under the fatahna. And and then he
could have just stopped there. But he wants to let them know that he's not joking. And he wants to let them know that at this point, he is not going to back down. And in fact, he is ready for now just not just to ask an innocent question like he started. He's not just interested in having food for thought, because they're coming after him and putting pressure on him and want him to cave a little bit. He's going to double down. And he's going to actually go on the offensive now. He's not going to back away and say, You know what, I want to talk to these people. No, no, no, he's actually going on the offensive. And what does that mean? He says what
he did, and I, when it comes to that truth, all of you is a witness against all of you. I stand as a witness against all of you over that truth, meaning, basically, I challenge any of you to question what I'm saying, I just questioned you.
And you try to put me in my place. You know what, my turn? Now I question you. And let's see if you can put me in my place. Yeah, let's let's see if you can back down, you know, answer me in a way that puts me in my place. I challenge you. So he's turning that around. He's not afraid to challenge it's a very bold thing for a young man to do. And he's taken that really bold step of speaking up. So the thing that I want to highlight before we go any further is that Ibraheem alehissalaam has now spoken up. And in when I was doing the series, the previous series before this one on the one, we talked about what motivated Margo Flynn had in one car, in command the good and stop against stand
against the evil speak out for the truth speak out for the good thing, because speaking out itself is a really hard thing to do. And he's done it. He stood up and said it, you know, it's not as convenient as me standing here in a machine environment. You know, and and giving a talk, because there's no hostility. I could talk about these ideas, and there's no hostility towards me in what I was, but if I said the same thing, and imagine that I had family or friends everybody surrounding me was worshipping idols or they had different
Religion, I can't talk about Abraham like this would be awkward at the party.
You know, they're all gonna get offended. And look at what he's doing. He's standing up for what he believes. And what he sees as a gross evil against the law himself,
standing up against it, to help those he loves. And when they think he's in the wrong, he's gonna double down and say, No, I love you, but you're in the wrong.
You're absolutely no and I am witness against you when it comes to this wrong. Well, another radical thing.
Now, these still apparently don't take him seriously. So the next is where things get really interesting can be looked at in two ways. One way to look at them is that they walked away from him dismissing him, because that's one way to dismiss the truth is not an engagement at all. You can just say, whatever and walk away, right? And then it's like the person who's speaking the truth is just left. You know, what corlew medulin was the jelly, whatever the prophet SAW Selim is they called him insane. And they scolded him and kind of dismissed and walked away, or with no Halle salami still show Thea home. Right.
JOHN O'Donoghue, you know, as far as I knew him, was Sophia, they put their fingers in their ears, and they pull their clothes away from him, like he's something disgusting. That's what they did with no holidays now. So the idea behind that being, sometimes you want to say something, and a person doesn't have to refute you by debating you. They don't have to refute you by argument. They don't have to refute you by threatening you, they can just nullify everything you have to say by simply walking away and ignoring you. They just ignore you and not even deal with it. So it seems one way of reading this passage, what's coming next is this just walked away from like, you know, leave this
crazy kid alone, just let's forget about him. So they're walking away, and he's angry that they're walking away. So he knows he needs to take he needs to see them engaged. Like he knows how terrible shape is, and how what destruction is going to bring on them. And he wants them to wake up. So he in this moment needs to take a more drastic measure. Ibrahim Ali, Sam is going to take a more drastic measure. So one reading of this next idea is he said what he's about to say to himself, he spoke to himself. And that's not a normal thing to do speaking to yourself, in most circumstances, we don't speak to ourselves. When I used to live in New York and you saw somebody speaking to yourself, you
cross the street and walk the other way, because you don't know what they're capable of. So the idea of speaking to yourself is not a natural thing. However, those of you that are college students, and you have an exam, and you have three chapters to review, and there's only you know, two hours left, you're sitting there going, think, steady, what's wrong with you, you're having conversations with yourself. I've seen those conversations happen in libraries and university, all the time. People do talk to themselves. At certain occasions, there are moments where you're driving in the car by yourself, you're lost in thought, and the thought is so moving to you that all of a sudden you
verbalize it, nobody's around, you're still saying something. You You speak to yourself. So speaking to yourself happens in emotionally, you know, impactful situations, it's not a normal thing to do. It's a it's a heightened emotional state, when someone speaks to themselves, and it can mean any number of things. From the Arab linguist point of view from the scholars of Alaska point of view. They argue that when somebody's speaking to themselves, and they are stressing their speech, as if they are convincing some because when the more you I've talked about this before, the more stress you put in put in a statement, the more you're trying to convince somebody so listen to these words.
Now see, let's see if I can get across to you what I'm trying to get across to you. What a lie Hey, Lucky then
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I swear by Allah, or I swear, I swear to it that I will make a scheme I have a plan all I do. You bet I do. I have a plan for your idols after you turn your backs. After you turn your backs and walk away. I swear I've got a plan. I swear I swear. Now the stressors in here, first of all, the Arab say one lie he when you swear by something, they say one lie here. But if the oath is very serious, and they mean it, and it's a life and death kind of intense oath or their rages out, you know over the meter. Then they don't say what law he they say Don't lie. They say Don't lie. The lie is not commonly used. You shouldn't use it commonly. But the law he is a very powerful form of one law he
so will like and be used. You know, we love Wi Fi a mannequin Quran says casually you can use it if somebody said, Well, I want to go get some ice cream. They could get away with it. No problem. But the law he know. So well. First of all, he's already taking a pretty massive oath. And then he says I hit the alarm is considered either Java customer custom itself, la aqeedah. And there's two new ones at the end of aqeedah. Nike then actually the fairing Medallia
The President is a Kido Kido I scheme, the alarmists to stress it more and the tunes at the end or to double stress it more. So there are four stressors on this one statement. One the oath which is already I would have been stressful anyway with one law he but it's taken a step further with the law he then the alarm then the two new ones at the end. So Tom la de la Akina astronomicon. So when he does this, again, if the interpretation is he's talking to himself, why would you have to speak with such emphatic words to yourself? You can just talk to yourself Normally, if you're trying to convince yourself, yeah, actually, sometimes you are, you know, in number ansara have seen I
have seen a certain element helaman loving man halaman. Within locker, he was something like this, the poet says, He says that the poet describes his struggle, 50 years of reaching some goal and he couldn't reach it. And if you're trying to get somewhere and get somewhere and get somewhere and you just not able to get there, you start losing hope, right? So it's like someone who the imagery in the poem is about somebody trying to reach this well, this water watershed, and he's been walking 50 years to get to the watershed, and he just can't see. So at some point, you're just going to start losing hope. So he makes a poem talking to himself with so much emphasis, he says, There's no doubt
about it, a person who's been walking 50 years to get to a watershed must be close.
He has to be close. You know, why is he saying he has to be close. He's basically telling himself just a little more, you got this, right. The point being the reason I give that example is when you stress something, something so much. When you emphasize something so much, you're convincing yourself because it's getting hard for you. What you're about to do is very hard. And you're you're losing energy to do it. Or in this case, it's terrifying to do it, the plan, Ibrahim alayhis. Salam has, he knows can get him and we'll get him killed. That's that's known. There isn't this is a sacred temple. You don't mess with it. And we all know his plan. hindsight is 2020. We, those of the
you know, the Arabs, a woman so exciting to live in the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, because when these ayat were recited many Sahaba didn't know what his plan was, right? Like, we know we learn from childhood, when they're learning these IOD they're hearing about about him early, something, I swear to God, I have a scheme that I will execute against your idols. And the stress that he's speaking of, even if he's speaking under his breath, is to actually toughen himself up. So this was what I wanted to highlight on one side of this interpretation, which is, on the one hand, he had to be bold with the people he was talking to. Just because you you're bold on the outside
doesn't mean you're not terrified on the inside. It's not an easy thing to do. We're still we're believers, we fear Allah. But that does not mean you don't fear society, or you didn't make you anxious, or nervous or scary is scary. It is nerve wracking. It is difficult. We don't become superhuman, because we're believers. Look, even I often talk about musante said when he comes in front of Allah, and Allah tells him to go talk to Darwin. And he basically said, He's scared near halfway, and you can see what I'm scared that they're gonna call me a liar. I'm scared that they're gonna kill me. Fear is a natural thing. But he overcame that fear inside of him to speak up.
But speaking up was scary enough. And he overcame that. But what he's about to do is way scarier. If that he got away with that barely by a hairline he got away with speaking up, right? They dismissed them, they could have done worse. But what he's about to do now, they will not dismiss, they won't just walk away from that, and he knows it. So he first reassures himself, strengthens himself speaks to himself within and This in itself highlights in the Quran the importance of what you know, psychiatrists nowadays called self talk.
Right? You have to I have to speak to myself. And sometimes I need a pep talk from myself. I need to reassure myself, I need to tell myself, What is wrong with you
get your act together. You got this, you know, so those of you that work out, etc, you'll see people in the gym, you got this and there's nobody around
talking to themselves.
There's also a spiritual pep talk. there's a there's a it's an important thing to have this this honesty with oneself. And so he does this de la de la Keaton mouse nomicon burden to illuminate with the other scholars hold the view that this happened and there's an ambiguity which means maybe it happened multiple times once he said this to himself, but maybe even he said it loud enough that some people heard it. I don't know.
What's he gonna do? Oh, this is gonna scheme. Yeah, he's crazy. So they're just missing but they heard it right now
Sudan Illa Kabir alone. So he he taught he turned them into smash small bits.
So he didn't just crack them or break them to that is like, you know, Shattered Glass but little little pieces. That's what he turned the idles into. It's like an impossible Legos project to put back together. That's what if it's like one crack, you can maybe it's two pieces, you could try to put it back together. This is not one of those situations he went to this did not this was not one swing. Well, what he did was pretty violent. And he went after he wrecked these idols, except the big one in like,
a like a beer on the home except a big one that they had. So the larger idol for the multiple idols, the larger one he left alone, the Allahu alayhi, Gian, so that they can come back to him.
all that, so they come back, this is 2030 idols, all of them are smashed. And the big one now stands even more prominent, right? So they come to him. And by the way, they come seeking these gods, what do they see from these gods answers? Right? Will I have a baby? Am I gonna marry this person? Is this year gonna be good? Is my crop gonna be good? Isn't that what they come in ask, tell me about my future. Helped me solve this problem, please kill my uncle, etc, etc. That's what they come and do in front of their items. So whenever they have a question in life that's bothering them, they come to the temple. So what is Rahim Allah, do Ibrahim Hassan created a situation where they've got
a big problem.
They've got a huge, somebody's destroyed our temple.
And they need to turn to their divinities to ask, but all the divinities are dead.
The only one left is the big one. So what should they actually do? Given that what they do all the time? They should go to the big one and say,
you know, giant piece of wood? What? Who did this take to your cousin's, they should go and ask the big one, two, he created this environment in which they were supposed to resort to their already established religious teaching, to go and ask the answer. lanakila here, gentlemen.
So they said they didn't ask the idol.
They sit around.
Man follow the heartbeat. We only had Tina.
Who did this to our gods?
Who did this to our gods? Who did this to our gods, the question can have different tones. One could be your soul hurt and shocked
to this, and you know, tears are rolling down your eyes. And the other is, Who did this? Like your mother does when she sees a mess in the kitchen? And she asked a question, she doesn't say Who did this? I don't know. There's men vighnaharta.
Excuse me? Whose cup is this?
Right? When you ask that question, you know, somebody's gonna die. Right?
Sometimes the question has a threat in it, what does it mean? When I find the answer to this question, there will be a janazah. That's, that's what that means. Right? So when Allah, Allah, Who did this to our gods,
and actually means when we find out, we're gonna take care of this. Or he's gonna, he's gonna find out how we do. Because we protect our gods.
Which you hear the irony that emotion? How dare you hurt our gods. But we, the whole reason you had Gods is that they keep you from getting hurt. I thought the whole relationship is the gods protect you. And here you are saying, Oh my God, our job is to protect our gods.
So the foundations of what is what makes the religion wrong? What makes it wrong, is being highlighted before the debate even happens before the answer even comes in their feelings. The view that they held is being demolished. Just in the end, what they felt what they genuinely felt, and they genuinely felt they cannot turn to that God for the answer.
they genuinely felt that these gods couldn't protect themselves.
They How can if they can't protect themselves, how they protect you.
If they can't take care of themselves, how will they take care of you.
And you have to bring offerings, you know, because they sat in front of them and they made offerings and things like that. You have to apparently feed them.
They are in need of your offerings. you're feeding them and you think they're gonna feed you.
This is your mentality. This is what you write if I wasn't able to get through to them by speaking
So now he's getting through them by this shocking experiment. By the way, on the side on the side note, I will say that this approach to teaching a lesson was not done by any other prophet
to teach the mechanics that idols don't make sense the Prophet size alone, who is this descendant of Abraham is around and he's not ever he writes on broke idols in a temple. And if there's one place that has deserves idols to be smashed, it's what, it's Makkah, and the prophets I seldom called out that there's only one God, and they wouldn't listen to him but the promises and do not go and break idols, did he? for the entire period of Makkah, did he break any idols? No. It's not like Ibrahim alayhis salaam has a massive army with him, and he comes and he conquers the city, and then he destroys it. That's not what's happening here.
That is what's happening here. So what's happening here is Ibrahim alayhis. Salaam has been given license. He has been given the permission from Allah to make arguments in a way that no other Prophet was given.
Just like Abraham and Islam was tested in ways like no other Prophet was tested. This is why even this is why language is no Quran is important. DeLuca who Jelena Athena Hi, Brahim. Those are the ways of making an argument that we hit especially granted to Ibrahim alayhis salaam.
So you cannot compare Ibrahim Alayhi Salam way of making Dalit specific things that he did. We can learn lessons from it. But we can say well today if I want to teach my Hindu friends, the truth about Islam First I will say Maha the hidden Mattila latian to lacunae. And if that doesn't work, this weekend, when they go for their festival,
I have a baseball bat I've been trying to test out
does not works. And the Quran makes that actually clear and the prophesy psalms entire sila makes that clear. His sila itself makes that clear. But anyway, so he, you know, he smashed these idols, they come back and say who they did do this. But then they add something and this is what we'll conclude with, in who let me not bother me.
Or whoever he is, there's no doubt about it. He is from the he's the criminal kind. He's from those that are there. There's no way he did something right. Now, in Now, let me know what you mean is very emphatic statement, it can be read it in two ways. If they came in crying,
then if they came in crying when human beings are in a state of despair, then they turn to the higher power for relief. And they couldn't they realize they couldn't turn to the higher power for relief. So internally, it's almost as if the argument that Ibraheem alehissalaam was making was already made for them. And they want to deflect from that and say, No, no, no, you're not totally wrong, he's wrong for breaking the idols. Don't think like that. So they, what is illustrating almost is something inside you tells you how misplaced your feelings are, but you want to cover them over by deflecting your anger and your rage towards somebody else. So in the human body, me on
the other side of this is, I don't care who it is, I don't care. And they're all temple worshipers altogether. It's not like they're having a debate among each other. So they're all in agreement with each other, right? And when you're in agreement with each other, you don't have to stress Like I said before, you don't have to play stresses on a sentence. So you can say who I mean, not only me, but you have no means to me as if to say we you if any of you thinks that this is a small thing. Or if any of you thinks we're gonna let this off easy. Let me debate with you. Right, let me have let me raise my voice before anybody even raises the issue.
Because we're going to go all the way whatever it takes to avenge our gods.
This is the idea of what they call now this mob mentality. The mob is so angry, that anybody who even tries to present a voice of reason is going to get betrayed, seen as a trader. So everybody will display the same level of anger and join our sentiment, because not joining our sentiment is an affront to those gods, you see. So people's emotions have to get hijacked by certain more outspoken people in the hall, I mean of body mean. And so when they made this, you know, obviously, when some somebody a group turns into a mob, then there's no more reasoning with them. Right. And so inshallah Tada. I'll share with you next time. Ibrahim Ali salons reaction to what because now it's an angry
mob ready, bloodthirsty, super upset. And they're going to come in, somebody actually dropped his name. So I'll just leave you with that follows me. And then you call Jeff Gould, whom you call over him. They said
there was a young guy, young kid button.
Some young kid we heard of a young kid, mentioning them talking about them. What does that mean? He keeps talking about them. Yes, go to home. Yes. Good.
remembrance, right? So we think of Vicar of Allah, right? And there's a, this young man does the vicar of these idols.
What does that mean? He's not remembering them in praise. He keeps bringing them up as house, how ridiculous they are, how they don't make any sense. He won't stop talking about them. He keeps reminding and remembering and reminding and remembering that this is a problem. This is a problem. So he doesn't just bring it up, bring this up once he keeps on talking about it. And the present tense illustrates that now the Callaghan youth guru home. So some scholars say it's referring to Oh, we heard somebody him talking about them, meaning when he said, I'm going to make a scheme, but it can also be looked at as something more perpetual, like he keeps on bringing it up. There is this
kid that we've heard about that he comes here and he questions everybody about this all the time. You call hula, hula Ibrahim. Ibrahim is what is called.
Boy, his name's Ibrahim.
So now his name has been dropped the only one who's ever spoken ill of the idols, his name has been dropped. And he knew he's not hiding. And he even said, I am a witness against all of you. Before they bring him in for witness, he made them witness. Right and then he made his scheme. So now things are going to get really escalated, and he's going to be brought to trial in front of all of them. And he's going to have to answer for what he's done. Charla will take this remarkable remarkable adventure of Ibrahim alayhis salaam, to its next episode in next hobo. barakallahu li walakum pukalani Hakeem, want to find out what year it was
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