The History of Shiasm
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An in depth analysis of the major historical events that occurred which lead to the emergence of modern day shiasm
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Are we live in Chicago James Monroe.
Meanwhile, salatu salam ala
Sayyidina Muhammad Ali he was a big man, my beloved brothers and sisters in Islam salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.
How are you doing?
Good. Good to see you on a Friday evening. I thought it was probably the most riskiest time to do a lecture series but Alhamdulillah Friday night in a year. And Pamela wonderful to see all of you. Before I begin, just a few disclaimers. Number one, when I started doing these slides, I didn't realize how in depth with almost 100 slides is quite long. And I don't know if between Nakanishi is enough. Usually I stand to give lectures, but I'm going to prefer to sit down, because it's going to be long. And if it becomes too tedious to stop me, we can take it further after that. Also, the systems are linked up. Also looking at the slides. But unfortunately, we're not automated. So I'll
have to keep on saying Next. Next. So I'm not speaking to a gene, I'm actually informing them. I'm going to the next slide, right.
And hamdulillah. So let's just jump into it. Before we take up any further time. The series or shift buddy mentioned, is a series on understanding Shiism, and just a rough idea, an introduction, the Shia, if we go to the first slide,
right,
right, if we just go to the first slide, and the sheer make up 10 to 15% of the Muslim population, a large group of people, roughly 200 plus million people, a subscribe to the Shia doctrine, they identify themselves as Shia, and therefore countries in the world that are predominantly Shia, those four countries or Iran, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, and Iraq majority, Shia, and they are large Shia minorities in countries like Yemen, and Pakistan, Lebanon, Kuwait. And you'll find interestingly enough, these are the countries currently, you can put your finger and say there's war, or conflict or hostilities in these countries look at that lesson, you'll find all of them, there is conflict
and these, you know, great Mashallah great problems in those areas, and Allah protect us and protect them. And therefore, I begin this series and even as long as my talkies I think it's important for me to begin with this very important concept of our near, you know, we go to the next slide.
In the mme, Albania we always begin with,
with what was the intention with you, Nia, and usually, when we talk about these, you know, on the Islamic courses, the lecture will say, a new unit, give you two, three minutes to renew your new year, it's like updating your your Wi Fi in or near renewed, renewed, CF Allah. But I think we need to spend a minute here to ask ourselves, why are we doing this course? Why are we doing if we do a solid course no problem. hamdullah beautiful. I have seen course Alhamdulillah why a course on Shia Islam. Why it's controversial. We all know, it's controversial. The places where you find that we mentioned is conflict is even killing. We don't want that year in our country, in our society in our
community. And therefore, we'll be touching on some very, very controversial issues, issues that are sensitive, that has caused a lot of bloodshed currently and in the past, and therefore, my Nia, my intention, and the reason why I am here is not to further make the wound even worse, I'm not here to create further hatred between Sunni and Shia. My objective here is not to have a platform of hatred, to curse and condemn anyone or any persons or any group of people. We will discuss things inshallah academically, in a balanced fee, open minded form. And this is for our education and for our family, to say and to be balanced between two extremes we have two extremes, one extreme that says,
you know, the shadow the worst we thought we should kill them. wherever you find them the worst, they are worse than animals, less extreme. And we reject that. There's another view that says, Don't say anything. She has seen it all the time. We have no differences. We all one big happy family. I love you. You love me. Right? That's how it is. That's like putting like an ostrich putting his head in the sand ignoring the the real issues. Maybe it was okay 20 years ago. But today, even the non Muslims knows that the Shia and Sunni anonymous new season CNN, BBC, Tunisia, Sunni Shia divide, so we can't avoid the issues anymore. But we discuss these things in an academic tolerant formats. And
we say things that are true for us and for them we don't put words in their mouth. We don't change a fabricated things. At the same time. We don't compromise on our stance. We have a circumstance we
We have reasons why we've taken certain opinions. And we don't compromise on that. But at the same time, we don't judge anyone, and we don't spread hate. Remember,
our doctrine as will come up in your in the lecture, we do not make that clear, I want to put that out there from the beginning. If anyone has that worked a query to make a label any persons or group of people, caffeine is not the platform for you. It's not the place for you, we do not make that clear of anyone that says the kalama that has subscribed to the same code and the same Qibla and the same Prophet sallallahu wasallam. Once he has ticked that box and says, I'm a Muslim, it's not for you and me to take him out of Islam. That's a lot to do. But we can discuss ideas and ideologies and beliefs, we can say this belief is incorrect. This belief is doesn't compatible with our belief, and
is good, or not people, not groups of people. So I'm beginning that's the reason why I'm doing this course and inshallah, why we should be here. Any questions on that?
And Hamlet, right, so it's, so we asked a lot of you move to the next slide sisters, we, we ask Allah to guide us and guide them and every person was doing it to the heart, we want the truth. We don't want our words to be the highest or to win a debate or to win an argument. That's not why we are here. We are here to ascertain the truth for myself so that when we stand on the left the hammer and hammer, we've been on the hook, that's all that counts. If we on the hat, we might do other others join us on the hat. And if we are not on the hat, Allah forgive us and guide us and let us join and open our eyes to the hawk. And it is accepted even if it's against ourselves.
So the history of Shiism, there are two parallel versions of history. And when you give an example, we all know give you an example, we all know, September 11 2001. If we were to talk about this to our kids, we could say basically, two planes crashed into the World Trade Center. And after a few hours, these these buildings collapse. And there was a war on terrorism after that, these are the facts. But when you speak to people, you know, what was the real reason some will say no, it was the Muslim, some will say no, the CIA conspiracy, the facts are the same. Yet, the telling of the story and interpretation of the events are different. And that's really how the scores tonight is going to
be. We're going to mention certain historical facts, we will all agree on ABC and D happened, the Sunni view, we will say this is what we understood of the event, the Shia view will come to a different conclusion. We'll discuss those pros and cons in the minutes. And we'll say this our view of hamdulillah obviously, we can enter areas of debate areas of doubt areas of well they've got these sources, we put our sources. And remember whenever we are in dispute to debate of something, what do we do?
Go back to a line. So back to the Quran, and the prophets Allah seldom we will discuss the Sahaba and the motivations why they did things why they said certain things, you and I, we can't know what's in the heart of any person. We cannot know what's in the heart Why this brother did that. Why that brother did that. We don't know. We are reading history 1500 years later, we can say is, let's look what the what Allah subhanho wa Taala says about the Sahaba as a as a default and from the, from the from what Allah says it will make things clearer. So Allah subhanaw taala mentions certain areas and there are many of them about the Sahaba only a few. Allah subhanaw taala see the cervical
region you know what I'm saying? That the very first those foreigners those who became Muslim first, they are the base and among them the Maha Jean, and the unsolved and those who follow them with good conduct to emulate them. Allah is pleased with him or all the along but always pleased with him. And they are pleased to Allah and he has prepared for them Jana gardens will beneath which rivers flow waiting they will abide forever. And that is the great success of the great attainment. So Allah says this is not Mohammed waste to the Sunni, Sunni Yama, this is even Heidi, this is what Allah Subhana Allah says about Sahaba Okay, Allah says this about them. So whenever we get into a dispute,
or why did I do this? What was his motivation? Why did I should do that draw the line when we say Well, what does Allah say about them? This is what almost pregnancies Okay, so we keep this in the back of our mind. That's our default. When we in doubt, we go back to the default. Allah also says, certainly was Allah pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you that the shadow under the tree for those of you who might not know the difference, we can go into detail about the Bible in one that there was a
situation with the Sahaba was in, potentially about to fight the kurush was a bad situation. And one by one the Sahaba played to the allegiance to the process. Allah say if we must fight tomorrow, if there's going to be a war, we're not ready to fight. But if you tell us to go and fight, we ready to die for you. And then one by one lined up and they took the end of Nabisco, Salomon said, We are with you until the end, basically. So Allah says, when they did this, when the Sahaba did this 1408 Allah revealed this ayah Allah said, certainly Allah was pleased with the beavers, when they pledged allegiance to you under the three. And he Allah knew what was in their hearts, Allah says, If you
doubt the Sahaba, I know what's in their hearts. So he seemed down Sakina upon them, and then he would be with an imminent conquest, they'll have a great victory soon. Again, I was telling you about the Sahaba, the position of the Sahaba, and specifically with the lives of the Prophet also known, because it's also relevant. Allah sees that the Prophet is more worthy of the believers in themselves, the prophet is closer to us than ourselves, and his wives, the wives of Neville Salah, the mothers, and therefore you should know each and every one of the lives of Neville Salaam. And if you are sitting here discussing Shiism, just a side note, without being able to list all the whys of
asylum, without telling without knowing the biography and the history, then I think we are putting the cart before the horse, because you should know who your mother is first before you know anything else before you know what the she is know who your mother is. Understood. So if you're in that boat, learn about the wives of Navy SEALs and and the mothers of the believers. So Allah is saying that these women are not like any other women, they are the mothers of the believers, and handling that. So with that introduction, you have your framework and your template, now we are going to get into the detail of the topic. And I will summarize my topic into five historical events. So there are
five key events in the history in the last 1400 years, which shaped how she has came about and how we have what we have today in the world. How did we get to Iran being you know, a country dominated by Shia Islam and they have a certain view and which has resulted, you know, in this divide, how did it begin? Where did it start? That's inshallah the purpose of my talk. And we'll talk about five key events in history, which shaped which shaped the progress of time. So first, we'll talk about the succession of the prophets of Salaam after his death, who became the halifa we will discuss the first
not the first backbiting the first scholar, the first great fitna. What is the first Greek speaker refer to?
Usually I give prizes? I don't even know this, but I don't slam. We are very famous for the book athletes Hamdulillah, you know, Sunni and Shia, we will have the book at least, you know, so usually I give them out, but I don't have any feature today. So I like interaction with you. It's Friday nights. You should enjoy yourselves as well. The first witness? What's the first witness? Yes.
Yes, following the assassination of Satan of man. So we'll talk about that issue scenario of the alarm, the Battle of the camel, the Battle of sci fi, when we'll have the second signal, which is all to do with Imam Hussain and Karbala. These are big topics, they will take you can take a month discussing each one. We'll talk about the 30 minutes briefly. And in the second dynasty, the second of the dynasty very important to know about them to understand where we are in the world today. And before I said it's a lot.
If I'm going too slow, and something tells me We'll speed up if we need to take a break. If we need to break this in half and do off now off in another week's time I'm at your at your mercy Alhamdulillah. So these will be the five areas I'd like to focus on. So let's talk about first and in terms of timeline, right. So again, these are just for us to keep in the back of our mind, profits are seldom died, the 11th year of the sale of their land becomes the halifa the Shia Sunni Christian Jew, the CC this is what happened. He became the halifa and he wrote for two and a half years. They say Noah became a philosopher and he wrote for 10 years, they say North man of the land
for 12 years, and then he was assassinated. This is a 35 year 35 years of the era meaning 25 years of the different levels under 25 years of journalism died the first speaker began assassination of Satan Earth man and in a room for five years and this was full of fitna and fighting and problems.
Then after, after the five years we now in the 40th year of the hegira signum becomes the hanifa and they will be peaceful 20 years 20 years later off the mountain passes away. Now in the 60th year, the second fitna begins and the killing of microcenter. That's just a timeline of how things would unfold. Right. So let's talk about the succession of the Prophet of the day.
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, the prophet SAW Salem
the worst and most tragic day in the history of this world. And in fact, we used to have, it's almost like it would be the passing of our baby. And with the passing of Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Why stop, Allah no longer communicated with us directly. And the last major or one of the major chicken points before the coming of the AMA had now been passed. And basically kiama is basically on the doorstep
for the Sahaba This was so traumatic, and for them, they didn't expect this this was unexpected. Like a child, we never expect your mother and father could pass away, they always be there was going to be the they the world, you know, they like the sun. And we're going to be passed away on Monday, the 12th of
the 11th year of the Iraq which corresponds to the eighth of June 6 32 this was such a sad day when I was sick for a number of days before and the whole machine was packed like a hospital room with a relative of yours is sick. Everyone was in the masjid. Not sure what's going to happen with them. Is he gonna be okay, he's not gonna be okay. During this period, he was unable to leave the salon and he appointed Albuquerque Alon to leave the salon. The next slide, we on the slides, we should be on an off the timeline.
Next slide.
Next slide.
Right so we are sacrificial apostles Allah, that's the slide we should be on.
Just as Okay, on that slide. Great. All right. So the prophets of Salaam and again, I'd love to go into the detail of the death of the Prophet. So sad and so beautiful. I just mentioned a few things the result seldom becomes too ill to lead the Salah. He will always you know, Bill and he will always give that and shawanda had a lot of shadow sources Allah and the prophet SAW the exit his house, it was like the standard five times a day always like clockwork and the Muslims will be ready to see him in a performance lab behind him and now they'll give the plan and they would wait and they would wait. And I should say is to seek to legal Salah, select Abu Bakr, Lita, salah and the
incessant abubaker of Allah, and he was sick for a number of days like this, perhaps 14 watts unable to leave the solder fudger on this Monday morning, which the professor passed away fudging
the soil out the oven was given the province and didn't come out of pocket it began leaving the solder and the resource on them stood up
and he opened the curtain and
we see doc fajita and the Sahaba said we couldn't focus on Uppsala because we could see him certainly Salah seldom smiling that beautiful smile and they knew anything about going to seeing that piece of salami wanted to step back and let the Prophet leaders Allah promises to say like No, I just want to watch my mama together united standing behind one leader
performing solder together. This was my job. I came to do this and you are doing it with with with me not vague hamdulillah I just want to watch you and you watch them as they perform Sala and he put the curtain down that will be the last time most of them had seen some of the law while he was in them.
We also have a sort of he's also lamb smiling bright filling the magic with with bed with ignore. They felt that hamdulillah he's okay, he's gonna be fine. Now he's gonna recover and sort of taking leave of absence sort of leaving the machine again I'm working with back to his family was a bit outside of Medina. And then of course, the condition of the nervous system deteriorated. And before he passed away. It was with him and he passed away so seldom she screams and the people in the machine come in and they can't believe what they're seeing. And they completely shocked. Some Sahaba are like paralyzed some Sahaba like in a coma. Some are screaming wildly, and abubaker of young
comes into the masjid and he finds a number frantic. This is so logical. So level headed. With the sword out shouting you are like all of you are monastics, how dare you say Mohammed has died? He's just gone to visit Allah as Mousavi to visit Allah, he's gonna come back. And when he comes back, I'm gonna tell him what you said. And I and he will start the mix of you when I fix How do you say this? One goes, sees that the body of the process on them. And he understands that this is the difference all of us must go to experience. And I'm working with those famous words that whoever worship a lot, then whoever worship Mohammed has passed away and were able to worship a lot of
homeless hate and the delay and mood and insight of the ayah that that Muhammad is nothing more than a messenger that messages came before him that if he dies
Killed Will you renamed when you leave your Diem. And when the Sahaba heard about it, he stood on the pulpit on the member, Omar is still shouting and screaming.
And when he recited those
who incited those if they were like,
We know,
we knew we weren't this idea, but
for the first time and almost collapses, he drops he saw the his legs quantifying whose reality hits.
Totally upside down the saddest day of their life below couldn't give a damn after that day, couldn't give a run off to the day, when it gets to a shadow and he his voice breaks begins to cry, couldn't
swallow, we're not ready for this. And all of it hit him all at once prophecy has passed away. How should we mousseline we should we bury him?
We in the middle of, in a way a political system when at least some lifters dunya he was the leader of Arabia, the first leader in history to rule all of Arabia under one government. And now that he has died, all the enemies of Islam are gonna come out of the woodwork.
And the issue of succession, who should succeed, the results alone had not been discussed. No one thought about this, no one discussed this issue. So from our perspective, I'm assuming algebra, we say that the navitas alum had not explicitly appointed a successor, he had not lived this, oh, how did you find, let's say, my Sahaba, the day I pass away aboubaker or IE Omar, whoever it might be, will be my successor. There is no Hadith like that. And there is no way in the Quran that says after Mohammed has died to be inherited by someone else. So this was an issue that was explained. But it's an issue that we have to address. Right? We have to have a leader, we have to have someone in
charge. So how was it that abubaker became the halifa? How do you become the halifa? Well, we have this you know, the issues in party and it's, again, I'll tell you the facts. The facts, which everyone agrees with Abubakar on the line is in the house of Ayesha with a body of the Prophet is along with Ali and elevate. And Omar Abdullah is outside because of course we're a close family member. And one of the Sahaba of the unsoldered of the people of Medina runs to say nama and says a meeting is happening and you need to be something urgent you need to be this enormous I don't have time for meetings now. Levison was passed away. I can't think of anything else. He says no, we need
to have you need to come and return to come. The unsired about to elect a leader. Now what I'm sorry?
The people of Medina right. So again, if you if this is getting new terminology for you, then understand this the people of Mecca the prophets of Salaam and Sahaba and Omar Abdullah about 100 of them with ammaji. They left Makkah they came to Medina, right so Medina belongs to whom? concern? This is basically they were they from the beginning. Later majority of the people, they only a few more hygiene. So now that the professor had passed away, naturally, who do you think should take over the city again?
It's the city that that was the reasoning. So they called a meeting together to discuss well, who's in charge of Medina now? Hamas Hassan was passed away. We should elect a leader. We should have a chief. Right. And they had the meeting in a place called Sapa. suceava. Right? Sakina sabetha, glucydur suceava. Gordon, it's a place. All right. So when the YG Nina heard when abubaker oma heard the answer about to elect a leader, and there's no consultation, they said, Look, this could be a problem. We could have an issue where a leader is elected and he's not accepted and another leader is elected, we could actually cause the oma to breaking off. So let's go and join that meeting. So I
will walk around your line, say normal rush to suceava. On the way the meet abou VEDA, even algebra to ease, you must know is if you don't know who he is, then you should know him before you know this course, is one of the 10 promised gentlemen.
So the three of these great illustrious Sahaba they come to the meeting of the unsolved let's go to the next slide.
Right? They come to the they come to the meeting with the answer and the answer. They asked like what's happening guys? And the answer basically says, look, we're going to elect a leader and say no one wants to get up and he wants to speak and abubaker grabs Omar
and he tells on Satoshi speak annoncer mentioned the qualities. They mentioned the status they mentioned and look, this was our city we took you in we had an agreement with the prophets of Salaam to protect him we did our job, we fulfill that obligation and now Medina is coming back to us is our town and we need to elect our leader,
so to speak.
And then I'm about to get up and eat
speaks and almost everything I wanted to say abubaker even said it better. So I will back it begins and he mentions everything you say on site about your qualities and your furball in your position and what you did is true. We are with you 100%
As for the issue of leadership remember an hour Baccarat Ron is mentioning Hadith where the prophets of Salaam mentioned in the Quran have a greater claim to the leadership of the Muslim community. And also not just from the Hadith perspective politically, I once saw we not just Medina anymore, we basically the Muslim Ummah expands the entire Arabian peninsula. Hundreds of tribes are looking at us as a government now, they will not accept the answer, but they will accept the kurush and unser understood this they agreed in Medina is in charge. But around Arabia, the Quraysh was still seen as the dominant type. This is tribalism. Someone mentioned these points. And some of the Ansari said,
Well, fine. Let's choose a leader from the answer and a leader from the majority and you take a honey fine, we take a califa and other workers signal we can't have this. We can't have two different competing leaders, this is going to be chaos. And the and again, this is a this is a higher level course in madressa. They will say they all shook hands and kiss one another and Kumbaya. no disagreement, they all say the fact that this wasn't the case. There was disputes, there was anger. In fact, voices got arrays, even swords might have about to come out and say no, obviously when I saw the situation becoming a bit intense, I grabbed the hand of a bucket and I said
I play a bucket pledge I will make you I pledge to you I choose you as the halifa I nominate you. And when he did that bucket gave his hand on my pledge and then and then others have the answer until basically everyone besides one or two individuals in except that as the halifa we don't need to go into the status and was he fit for the job abubaker even says in the meeting guys choose
or
choose one of these two would mean to be the halifa and it was mentioned how can we choose abubaker How can we be halifa over a man who will even abyssal Salaam interesting issues of the deen he made a bucket in charge when promises Allah was unable to lead the Salah Abu Bakar was the man only Abu Bakar when the province of Santa Maria before was unable to perform the Hajj, he made a mockery of the Hajj you go and you make it to the people. So they see the reason it's a matter of he had Who is the most who is fit to do the job or minister to do the job is supposed to do the job of man.
They fit to do the job. They were all leaders. But the reasoning for say Norman, for example, was at an obese person, I'm interested abubaker with leadership of religious matters, and therefore he is most fit for political leadership. So Omar Li basically grabbed me and said, I choose Yes. And the answer followed suit. And when the word was out of that the majority of suffering for us we had a meeting and the vast majority are talking about 51% 49 we talk about 99.9% of everyone was happy okay. You can be the halifa and when the people of Medina have not even
seen Rama Mahajan are small in number, the answer in charge if the insider rejected this, there's nothing of a bucket and say no man could do. But the answer will accepted. And they all accepted Abu Bakar as the new halifa. No one raised any dispute. There were a few few Sahaba that were aggrieved who had certain grievances about this, not that they disliked aboubaker not that they felt that he wasn't fit to do it. But they had certain points which they were not happy about.
Side Ivanova, most of you might not have heard
of the Alon, he was basically the leader of the people on site, and he was going to be elected as the leader. They were about to make him the leader when basically gatecrash the meeting, and they chose a worker. And he was a bit upset about this in the books, obviously. I also know Gemma, we say that he was a bit upset about this, and he was not fully, you know, fully happy with it. But he didn't call the unsought and say we can have an uprising and you said he wasn't happy. He felt I should be the one but someone else beat me to the job.
And that was it. He didn't say anything else. After news reached that abubaker is now the halifa to either Sahaba or not senior Sahaba also voiced a concern the two of them Satan, ie karate Alon, and let's say zoobi one slightly incorrect. zubaid will change the slideshow. So by being a one on one not say as we
say nearly and as a way to have the team promise agenda, to have the
closest to harbor. We all should know the Fabiola saying it at least as weighed one quality of
name one Hadith about his, his whole body that makes this special.
You're talking about the son
of the light and as Aveda was first person as the professor says, Every companion is a Hawaii has a special disciple and my disciple, as well one of the first who embrace Islam, who many hegira, who fought in butter and Ohio and as an every single battle and were to read one of the problems Gemini so this guy is a senior serious guy, senior Sahabi as you bike is also first customer to keep this in mind. They grew up together, they were very tight Sonali and Azerbaijan
even further as Obi Wan is married to him,
a smart, adorable bucket. So this is his father in law. This was his father in law that became the halifa he was not happy, as well, why not happy
and they see not that we are unhappy with the result of the election, that we have any criticism against you our pocket, we felt we should have been at that meeting, we should have also been invited. We are also part of the we were part of the leadership of Mohamed Salah. So we should have been at this meeting. And of course, the response is, say no back and say no, they did not arrange this meeting. It happened by accident. It happened because of the people of Medina, and it was unplanned and uncontrolled. But once this was discussed as you buy an IRA deal and publicly gave the place tabaka to show that there was no hard feelings. In fact,
they displayed again publicly six months later. And also to add some spice to the Briony right
fathima daughter of the prophets of Salaam Fatima to the law the only surviving daughter of the only surviving child and the results of them. So firstly, she was unhappy she like any wife was unhappy. My husband who has arrived he could have been halifa even he's qualified for the job. He wasn't even invited to the meeting so we get upset. further than that. She said okay, my father's passed away abubaker yo Khalifa. I would like my share of inheritance of my father, my father died I'm his only surviving daughter, but also shake up are the laws of the Quran as you get half of these estates, I will concede know anything Why the NBA don't leave any inheritance Heidi's that all their wealth
goes to charity. If she wasn't happy with us, right and maybe in the next one of the next discussions, I leave this as a as a as a teaser for misconceptions. There's a hadith that says whoever the Prophet says who ever hurts fathima hurts me or things me angers me if I'm angry allies angry with you when I was angry with you. They basically you're in big, big trouble or sparking my anger. Yes, we agree. We agree she was very upset abubaker if you don't seem to want to speak to on two accounts, how is this possible?
We some Buchan was right, in terms of the Hilton's. But how do we reconcile this Hadeeth Hoon arises how do I generate the ID demo people will leave that for the misconceptions. So nothing to do with the leadership in yet. But this is added that say that he was a bit upset and Fatima's.
So we can even look at it and make a bigger picture out of it the biggest story, or we can say that is what it was. Nonetheless, Sahaba gave the clicks of a button. There was no rebellion. In fact, everyone joined him. And soon news will arise that all over the tribes of Arabia rebellion, and they're about to invade Medina, and they all stood together. And they see Islam that last that year, the first yellow bucket very dangerous here. And in a massive campaign effort from Ebenezer Abba was put in together to keep the oma from falling apart from his enemies. So when we summarize this succession of promises Allah, the Sunni view is the prophets of Salaam. When he passed away, the
issue of leadership is a political one who sent him appointed governance he appointed leaders. It's the issue was a political question, Who should be in charge of the government? Not in terms of who should be Who is the most pious and who is? Right? It's an issue and it makes sense when I get further on. It's about political authority. Our view is NaVi Salam had not appointed a successor. Side note here. The Shia will tell you doesn't it make sense that the prophets would appoint a successor something so important? He told y'all to be stingy. When you have to leave a successor we say Good point. We agree with you it would make sense that I agree with you so we give them that
point. But we said we cannot find any evidence of it. Now vehcile son love we our view is he lifted open to the Sahaba you choose who you comfortable as leading you you choose the man you feel is best for the job. Listen to them. Therefore it was a matter of he had and in HDR you have a number of opinions from
valid opinions, you weigh the pros and the cons and you make the best choice you need. And they chose a bucket. They felt he was the most qualified. In hindsight, we can say he was the most qualified because he had done the job. And once again, as I say, if half said yes and offset, no, we could say, okay, there's an issue, but 99.9% 100% Okay, a few but concerned, but everyone supported him. This is historical facts.
What is the sheer view of this? The she I say that when the Prophet passed away salsola it wasn't only political authority that he left behind. There was also a spiritual link between between us and Allah nowadays, no nebby they should be an intermediary, a middleman between us and Omar and he's pulling him out and he is divinely appointed by Allah. Allah pointing like a lot of points via a lot of points a leader and this leader was appointed say, in the lifetime of Navy SEALs and we
say this, they say there was an incident called
the ponder whom there was an event with a recent speech, we all know it we will always have a bucket number. And these we appointed Satan it as his successor, and the Sahaba knew about that.
Alright, so for the home, what is the story about for whom
should I leave this for the misconception, so should we discuss it tonight?
The chef would like to discuss it, Chef would like to discuss it. This is an issue with a hadith and is found in Islam. The Prophet Sal Salam says that I leave behind two important things that you need to look after the Quran and my family look after my family look after my family. And it's also a prophet praising it into evil is the friend of my friend and his friend, and whoever it is hate hates it when Allah subhanho wa Taala basically hates that person is basically an enmity towards me and a lot. So they said, We all agree this thing happened a while back anyway, this all happened. That is we say that it was elected as the Imam as it is a Muslim.
What is this hadith about? We leave it for misconceptions to explain. And there's a context to it. When you understand the full story, nothing to do with halifa people will crying and they will back by and they will be kidding about Satan it they weren't happy about it, and a piece of someone gave a speech. In another scenario. This was off the Hajj, many misconceptions. If he was gonna elect a leader, he would have done it on Hajj and arafa when he gave that amazing speech, this was off the edge people are complaining. So you should stop. I'm going to speak to you now what's in it.
further discuss. So we say this and you need to we said there was no explicit selection election of a successor, the Sahaba chose and they chose say now, according to the BCCI. Now the Shia view would say no, there'll be some appointed someone Sahaba knew he appointed and he informed him this man is not only a halifa is your Eman all of your Sahaba were they all of those who came with him? They were all there even the wise is gonna be somebody. So before if they if they did not listen to the Hadeeth the listing of suceava was they capture, like the guptas by taking over the government say no, it is not the they conspire. And they said we all gonna agree that we will take away the power
of Satan and he's supposed to be the halifa will take it away. Now for this to succeed. maybe one or two you can say yes, but the whole population of Medina, everyone, what is the answer has to do with supporting? How do they benefit in this? How can we say it's impossible that the same people that Allah spoke about like that in the Quran? In the beginning, I mentioned this idea that all of them got together and said we'll all be corrupt. And it was two versions, obviously, two versions of history. You choose which side makes more sense to you. You have the Quran in the back of your mind. You have all the points. I've shown you the Sunni point, I show you what the she has say we say
cannot be possible what you're saying OSHA. Also what makes
this even stranger you were saying earlier of your lawn, he gives his police double back when he puts his hand in an overcrowded lawn that his sons will fight in the Jihad under these Sahaba that he'll be working in the council. And in fact, if they did this, this is an act of Cooper, Cena. Cena IRA young marries his daughter to say no more of your lawn. Now,
just to show you how to copy when you speak about the children of St. Louis and Fatima the alarm we always mentioned
that for children not to who the other two
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Why don't we mention him
so nearly married to say normal? If this man was the coffee that you are here to be like you say he's he stole a mama, how does a father marry his daughter? It's such a person.
The second off after, after this, the incident of succession, right? So we say we look at before these people for the families, they gave up everything in the jar, they fought the kids, they suffered and blink, why would
Why would it be now because of this conspiracy? Since the before and after, doesn't make sense in the Quran. So we say two versions of history doesn't make sense. So that's point number one in terms of
East Asia. So we go to the next slide. This is another recap of the summary. So let's jump towards the first clip. Now, we said the first fit now
if we continue on All
right, so also working on becomes a point is the Holy *. Two and a half years you'll be off halifa great. halifa saves the oma on the verge of catastrophe. Excellent job. The Sahaba made a choice was without a doubt that I chase he did his job properly. So not only becomes the Holly 14 years later, in his time, Palestine must be locked up in this Islam, Syria, Egypt, the Persian Empire color all these great conquests in the time line, often with mango is elected as a halifa. Without going into all the details as to how they relate to this halifa. Each one was different about going through each jihad. Omar was appointed by ibaka of mine was part of a panel they were
six candidates they chose with Monrovia line, the opposite 12 years of unruly and the oma expanding from basically Morocco to Afghanistan. On the win the biggest Empire on Earth was the Muslim Empire, the strongest the mightiest Empire, and naval fleet.
Issues began to arise, the new converts, those were not Arabs began into Islam. And naturally when you have such a big population, you're going to have different groups and factions. So you know, if Monrovia won, they have points for him. Many great points we should know all these great points. And there are few things that we could say, of monologue, the line things happen, which could have been handled better. People rose up against you. And they demanded that he should relinquish the caliphate said I can't do this. I don't want to be halifa but I can't do this. So they murdered him. He was murdered by Muslims, by those who c'est la ilaha illAllah. They murdered him as a big shock
for us seeing men who married to
the same man that was at all the battles the same man that was advised to read one How can you kill him, they killed him. One of the reasons and they forced Satan it basically now was the most senior Sahabi he was forced into this very difficult situation and now he becomes the halifa.
Now he becomes the halifa at a very difficult time as we said this is the first Alright, so let's go to the next slide. The first fitna fit now as you said it's not gonna fit now means confusion. It means your Eman is being tested. When digelar comes the greatest weakness, the gel, you won't know what's up and down. You don't know what to do what's right or wrong. You can see this one on that side and that one, I don't know where to go. So now signoff man is assassinated in Medina we have five 6000 protesters from different parts of the oma they came to Medina protesting with man leave with man leave for two months with money saying I can't leave I can't leave they break into his
house they murdered him they killed him about five six of them and they flee into the crowd. We don't know who murdered people today. We don't know who murdered him.
And those
right so you know in this
what
is a
good omen or bad omen?
Right now it comes into power and a very, very difficult, difficult time. halifa just been killed recently has been assassinated. We don't know the killers are. These people came from different parts of the world. And they had valid concern. Some of them had valid concerns. How do I fix this? So say Khalifa, and the wives just to put you into this big much bigger picture the lives of all of them were in Makkah because it
How much and when there are these this conflict of these these protests happening in Manila, they want to go back to Medina because it's dangerous to the wise mind Medina in Makkah, all the action is happening in Medina, scenario becomes the hollyford, everyone puts the plate as available, no one puts his plates in the hand of St. Paul have put his hand in the hand of scenario you are halifa and
weeks go by, say now it is not appears to investigate the killers of man. He's not holding anyone to account. Instead what he does is he removes and fires all the governance of sydnor off man before he changes his entire administration, he changes his cabinet and amongst these supporters are these groups of people that came to protest with mine and weeks go by and people begin to get frustrated amongst us harbor they become frustrated. Why is he not? Why is the Alon not acting and holding those who accountable you know to take into who killed what man when they go and speak to him? He says inshallah we'll get the right now I don't I'm seeing two other matters right now. I don't have
the ability to do that right now. I don't know who killed with my brain the killers to me and I will we will execute them. We don't know who they are. I can't execute 5000 people plus the issues in other cities I need to deal with weight. Right. frustrations begin to battle the two other and again the national Bashara with a teens team most senior Sahaba right and he got now 4035 days later that tin abubaker died more die of man died.
You know the way the die right who was left now is basically Ollie Paul, hands away. These are the three main key players that are still alive.
They leave the leave Medina, they go to Mecca, and they go to speak to eyeshadow, the Alon ha one of the mothers of the believers, right. She's also a very powerful political figure. And they basically say we are not happy they are not happy with the inaction of Satan.
At the same time,
so as technology is dismissing all the governance of mine replacing them with new governance, the most powerful governor is the governor of Cydia, Maui are on the line. Very close family member of mine. He's the governor of Cydia, powerful province, massive army, they have the Navy. So you know, Allah tells Mahalia, he says a new governor, tell mama he needs to abdicate, he needs to leave his fiery mouth. He says no, I'm not leaving. I'm not giving over the power. Why are you challenging me? No, I accept you as the halifa. But you are not doing enough to bring with man's killers to justice. I am with man's while he is representing his family member. If you're not going to do it, I'm going
to do and until they brought to justice. I'm not going to give up my power. So now Scalia has this massive headache or big problem of Syria. What do I do at the same time as debate and call her is when I shine maca and they have a meeting and they say you know what?
we foresee a potential fight between Ali and Maria the line we need to get a middle ground. We need to galvanize the oma should come together. And we should go as a force if it doesn't have the power we should come and we should hold the kilos up with mine. But even if the Justice we can't make things go as they are, so they tell I shall have the alarm. Look, the whole woman loves you. You are a mother. You go as head of this campaign to campaign is an army a campaign to say we want the killers of mine brought to justice. And if you support us join us. Right if you like it like sheep, right. So from Makkah, they go on this journey of raising support. They start off with a few 100
people by the time they reach busline iraq 30,000 people have joined up, let's say not what I shadowed the last 30,000 we say now it becomes a way this is now this is like an uprising. Now this is a fitna if you will,
who would you be with? Are you going to be able to say 90 what I share with marami
so I don't know what's going on anymore. I'm going to stay with you Do you have
you have
you have Sahaba with Maria great Sahaba all of them many Hadith about the promise Jana we know the quality of the Sahaba many Sahaba this is I don't know what's happening anymore. I'm just going to stick to Sala and that's what I'm going to do politics don't concern me. So these are the facts and give you the facts we'll talk about what's the story behind it. I will view the video nonetheless what happens so I showed the alarm now has basically an an army a huge group of people under 30,000 people IE is forced to mobilize to come and meet this group. Any basement long story short these negotiations between the two parties.
Once again, they confirm against Sunni and Shia sources agree say nalli didn't want to fight with proof from Sunni Shia sources that the Zubaydah she didn't want to fight Satan it. They want, they had different opinions and perspectives. And they agree, you know what? Yeah, I mean, meaning getting rid of anyone who's an MA had a list of names. These are the people we know for sure. They had something to do with the killing of mine, get rid of them from your power base, your support base, get rid of them, and we will deal with them together. And they were about to agree. And even if he writes in his bio in the higher that that night, a treaty was agreed between the sign of
Russia and the side of the line. And it was the dislike, the believers were at peace, and those whose names were on the list. I told them get out of my army, we don't want to see it anymore. When that came, they were afraid that tomorrow, you know, we need to be held accountable. So during the middle of the night,
fight broke out on both sides. A fight was instigated on both sides. And, and this is not the normal customs are even the nominee for too far. They didn't fight at night, you fought in the day and at night you rested in the middle of the night. Without the command of it without the command of Ayesha people began fighting and people are fitna attacked is army and the army and actually they thought in a war ensued. A huge battle ensued. For the next day confusion, people are fighting and dying. In the midst of the battle. Paul had to say stop fighting stop fighting as the winner of the law and I mean, he was part of we should know we know he's a part of the army.
He leaves the battlefield. He says I didn't come here for this he leaves the battlefield on his way as he's leaving one person from the army of say 90 of the time he comes in from behind he kills us.
And as latency not even close just remember in karate alone he was what say 90 say we both concern. Yeah, there are other sides of this fence that what we want other sides of the fence. And when say not when the man comes to say that I need to give you the good news. I've killed a debate. So this is what I want to hide even though she I have this saying it said what Bashir tells us give him the news. The killer of debate with Jana is in the fire. Tell him that he's in general, I never commanded. The Shia will also tell you what to do. He may join as a Sala on the fallen on both sides, meaning he didn't see them as Kfar. Nonetheless, the battle is ensuing many prominent Sahaba
are dying in this battle. And segnale said the only way to stop this battle to shock the people. Why is it called the back of the camel I share is on a camel. She's obviously in like in a little box no one can see even a chick even her body cannot be seen. So like he said, cut the legs of the camel. And when people see that Ayesha is in danger. Perhaps they will stop. And yes, they did stop. So and on this end, look at this. On the side of Satan. It was Mohammed Abu Bakar Abu Bakar son Mohammed was a staunch supporter of Satan. It was an inside. And he so he said to Mohammed Ali. Mohammed is going to take your sister Ayesha, and basically take a home keeper safe your mom, no one none of us
can even look at her, let alone pick her up and older you go and find your sister. Make sure she's okay. Now
after this battle, final instance in Alice is obviously victorious in this battle. This is the first civil war in the history of Islam. First Civil War Muslim and Muslim killing Muslims is once the sword is really is taken out in the soma, it will never be put back. Unfortunately, no matter how many courses we have, no matter how many meetings we have, unfortunately, they will always be this doesn't mean that we give a surprise and the answer is well, that's gonna happen. I might as well choose my side. No, we can say not yet in Cape Town. doesn't have to happen yet. So
this is the first and this is also when the term sheet comes here. What does she mean? She r means partisan are the people of the followers of your head. We are the We Are the political party of IE. We are the political party of Russia. We are the Shia of malware. That's what it means. Shia means political party. Okay.
And so after the Battle of the camel, so this battle ended, Ayesha Raja Lana. She was deeply saddened by this and in hindsight, and we will say the space and Ayesha herself says this, that this was a mistake. She should not have instigated this thing. If he was able to fight our view of history. She never came into fights in it. She never said that he we should have a new halifa but they were ash they should have given him time and this fighting was unnecessary. shouldn't have happened and was a mistake. Many of this probably came left in the middle of the fight.
You don't want to do anything of this fighting and Russia will become very reclusive after this. And when she remember she would be very saddened by this wasn't her intention. When she leaves Basra, she says, you know, and he says this, and this beautiful is in the Shia books as well, I should say to the people of Basra. What happened between me and only remember we are in lose, we are family. And this thing is a pious solid man and I support him. He basically was on the right. And then I received about Ayesha that I tell you, she is the wife of the prophet SAW in the dunya. And she's within Angelina. And when he heard people cursing up he had them less than three times. So this is
the conclusion of what we call the Battle of the camel. Our perspective, people looking for justice, they raise the protest and protest and ugly out of control like we see happening all over the world. And many of those were the degree to the second he was by accident. unintentional wasn't as wasn't. Definitely even the shear would agree. This was not a theological. They didn't say your coffee, we fight an ecological fight. How do we know what Satan actually performed Genesis Allah, on those who fought against the provisional Salah also, he told every one of his army, if you've taken a prisoner of war, or or you've taken any booty, leave it why because we're not fighting too far. When you
fight too far, you can take the vanilla spoils of war, when you fight Muslims, this cannot happen, return it to its owners. The Shia perspective is this was a very angry Ayesha, who was very disliked Ali and Azerbaijan and palha wanted power. And when they saw that he had power, they rose a rebellion against him to steal the power from him. That's the Shia perspective. And again, we said we go back to the ayat of the Quran, when Allah says that these women are not like you. Oh, you are not like any other women of the world. You are the mothers of the believers. Allah says in the Quran, how do you put it put that Ayesha on that same? That same conclusion?
How would you?
How are you guys feeling any questions? Are you feeling tired?
Are you in quiet because you enthralled?
Yes.
Because I was on a camel. So this is a strategy of cut the legs of the camel off, and therefore it will stop this battle. And he did and it did so well. He chose the best women of this pasilla he chose a half brother. So take her back to to Medina. And there's a hadith in our sources interesting Hadith the prophet SAW sent me sitting with Ania and Ayesha sitting behind the screen and the quality of your life.
The time will come with it will be an issue between the two of you and Satan alysus. In that case, I will be in the wrong
when he didn't agree. He said no, no joking around. But when that happens, I'll only do what you must to keep us safe. Keep it safe. He did exactly that.
And we'd say now in hindsight, 1500 years later, we can say we love Ayesha and while I may not even be footing the dust and our mother's feet and fall away we can say perhaps they should not have done this. They should have spoken to IE directly and they should have given him time yet four months. So you know if man he inherited a problem he was fixing the oma right and so they should not the hack was closer with Allah but we don't curse any of them. We say they Nia was sincere. That's our position they need our sincere intention was good things didn't turn out as was supposed to be this is one issue. We see the other big problem was mowing the lawn and remember we said the real the
real issue on say that his mind was mowing the lawn the governor of Cydia why what recap remind me again? Why Why is he Why is he at issue Why?
He's with the minds family member. He's the governor of Cydia. He's very, very powerful. And he told Satan, I know, I'm not going to leave my job as governor of Syria. The oil of Syria is behind me and they work and I don't diss you never claim to be the halifa even though she I say this, he had a claim that I want to be the halifa he said I want to take justice for with my century. And we say 911 when he completed this sense, so sad to say that his whole life I was so mired in in not his fault mired in confrontation, he never really had the chance to to put into effort to put things into into motion. But there is a silver lining, which we'll get to in our to face off with Mario
Golan. So he mobilized his army from Iraq and the people of Iraq supposedly. And there is also a backstory here. The people of Syria used to be an omen. The people of Iraq used to be Persian and they used to be fighting between them. So now, even though they're under the
Islam so there's this underlying Manchester United Liverpool animosity, right he stole this thing bubbling the under the surface. So now many people support saving it from Iraq and many people support Maria from Syria and the two armies unfortunately conversion It was called sci fi. And they spent many, many weeks discussing discussing the candidate deliberately during the times of hygiene we fighting is haram to have a dialogue, and they discuss back and forth back and forth eventually comes down to we cannot come to a conclusion either you or your of your lung, you lit need to take the people from your army out, I have people that I want to take out or there's going to be war and
say, Listen, if you're not going to relinquish power, then this is basically a rebellion. I have to fight you. It leads to this. So sadly, I this is a genuine, intentional battle civil war between the Muslims, the Battle of city, the Muslims on the side of Mongolia, the battle on the sides of centrality. The good news about this battle is, as the historians say, in this battle, unlike the Battle of the camel, not even 30 prominent Sahaba with a meanie, the vast majority of us have 1000s of them say we want nothing to do with this. We're not gonna get involved in this. This is between the two of you if you guys we're not gonna fight this. We don't want this happen, what happened at
the back of the camera. So a battle ensued. And this battle continued and I mean, again, we can go into the details of the battle. But similarly as was done in the back of a camel, the objectives analysis, whoever wants to leave the battlefield liftin go now if this is a valid jihad against fire, it's a major sin. You can't do that. Lifting though. Whoever is taking prisoner of war releasing, if you've taken any property it must be returned because this is not too far we're fighting. We are fighting Muslims. And when they die, we perform gentle Salah together some narrations even say you know what, during Salah time, they all stopped, Iran is given no fighting,
even perform Salah In fact, they even perform Salah sometimes together. One Imam and they perform Salah together, and then sit down Go back to fighting. I said. But the point is very important. This is a political fight, not a theological fight. Very important. And that's going to become more clear as we continue. So this battle ensues and you challenge Ron a lot. Even if he sees 60,000 Muslims die in battle. Now if that is true, we don't know the exact number. It would mean more people died in this battle. Then all the Muslims that died from butter until this point, all the battles put together Moses died in this battle. That's how bad this battle is. And I've said this battle is
nonetheless and it is prevailing. He's winning and as he's winning.
Also the side note here inside Natalie's army is Amar who's Omar she knows
I might have been the acid. But one of the great companions one of the first embrace his love. His mother was familiar the first Shaheed his father was Yes, it was a shaky, like persecuted. He was a staunch supporter of Satan. He's about 90 years old. And he said many many times to Mr. Amar.
You know, I'm saying go to your Saturdays, those who rebel those who went on a bubble, those who became excessive and extreme not too far, those who extreme will kill you and the hockey is going to be with you, you will be on the right and the extremists basically are going to kill you in this battle. Amar dies fighting for a nanny. So this further shows let's say 90 was closer to the truth. Right and how the industry will continue fighting and how do we still support Mario after this? Let's again for our misconceptions, inshallah. Mario the line. When they tell him a man has died, we killed him. These IDs we all know about this ID that Ahmad is on the side of the right side. What
are we going to do now? No, we're gonna continue fighting because misconceptions is a lot anyway. Nonetheless, the battle continues. And after about a week of fighting
the side of malware on their line, they now want the two and they take out the Quran, which is like the Quran wasn't like we have nice Quran. It was a massive like a big sheet of paper, they took it out, marries it up and said we want arbitration. We don't want to fight anymore. We want arbitration. Let's discuss and say 90 a decent response. No more fighting, let's arbitrate and
from the arbitration, and we'll talk about arbitration in a minute. The point is, from these two battles, the sheer view is that it's one side they'll tell you a lock on the other one, ie and I chef and Mahalia, you need to choose it's one or the other. It's mutually exclusive. That is impossible for all of them to be right. You see, these are just fabricating some things here. What Allah says in the Quran, any two parties amongst the believers should fight
They make peace between the two. But if one of them operations boundary, one of them goes excessive. The places the other, they all of you collectively fight against that one that places until it returns to the ordinary to the obedience of Allah, meaning Allah is showing you that a situation may arise with two groups of believers could fight. And those neutral parties should try and make a peace between them. But if one goes extreme, they will all unite against them. And perhaps the one silver lining of all of us that it was Sahaba that force each other in a civil war, had it been anyone lives, the atrocities would have been worse. At least now we have a framework that it
believes fight one another, say Nigeria, could the laws in place, you don't take the wives of characters. You don't take the spoils of war. If they deplete you leave them if they die, we still perform gentle salah and they respected the fact that Sahaba did this. Mike, the one silver lining is we learn how to fight the Civil War from them. And he's been anyone who lays it has been worse.
Right. So after the Battle of suffering, we said
what happened afterwards? We said the army said now, Mahalia said, let's have an agreement. Let's have a peace discussion. And yeah, right. The sisters with us I forgot to say mixed like, like a year ago. Like we on the first week night begins was Ali Nagaland Shia fragments. That's where we are.
Okay. All right. So weights in the army, yours that says nobody wants to have a negotiation of peace and the peaceful negotiation doesn't it breaks down kind of it doesn't go the way it should. For example, in the negotiations, say nanny was asked to remove your name is Amina meaning. And you, you know, there are certain things which they were not happy with. Time passes both sides for about three years now, after the battle, these negotiations, nothing comes to much conclusion, say now Ali's army starts to break apart. Satan and his followers from his followers. Now we're saying that his followers start to pull away from him. And they start to reject him as the leader. And he asked
him why. And they begin to say that if you you and they have a number of points here, and this split from Satan and his army, this new faction that says, You know what, say 90, we no longer respect you as the leader, we don't want you the same people that killed with the same people that challenged with man, they will say now, these army now they do the same and say 90 because he's not he's not ruling according to what they thought was right. So they break away. And this is the first 16 Islam. This is not the Shia or the Salafi of the Sufi family. This is the first sixth Islam all the problems, they are primarily responsible, they call the holige. They pulled away and they said all
of you are corrupt. All you saw our your profile, you are wrong and we are at and they pulled away from his army and say that he tried to talk to them. He said his cousin and abass are the Alon one, even Ambassador lon and the great, you know, Mufasa to go and speak to them. And he says when I went to them, I found them performing Salah. So in horseshoe, the bodies were like, from like a week from fasting and dadgad and reciting Quran very pious people, he comes to visit them. And he speaks in Austin, basically, why have you pulled away from earlier of the Alon, why are you no longer supporting them? And they had a number of grievances. We are better than Ali. And how could I agree
to choose to make arbitration the law of Allah is like how people say for example, a man made laws Spoofer. Allah is the only one that can make laws. So if you make a traffic sign that you can only go 16 listed all over you bring her on? How's that? Right, this was what they were saying, I needed your line. He's trying to make laws that Allah did not put in place. What else is your problem? So they said, I only change the laws of jihad, he did not allow us to take the spoils of war at sea fee. And at camo at the battle. He didn't allow state disposable, and if he believed that they were Muslims, that means he killed Muslims, and he killed Lucifer.
So what else? And also during the negotiations, he agreed to remove his title a little mini from the dialogue. Right? He said, Okay, we'll talk so cinema
put a mean meaning on one side, and we'll discuss this open source analysis. As I said, the fact that he put it aside mean if you're amenable, meaning it is amenable carefully.
This is the argument. So alabaster is your points? Well, let me respond to all of them. As for the issue of arbitration doesn't seem that good and when a husband and a wife have an argument in B hackerman. Bring a arbitrator from the husband's side and an arbitrator
The lady signed within discuss this. And suddenly Allah says in the Quran that if you are in her arm and you're hunting animal and you kill it, this is a big, big mistake you make they bring an arbitrator to assess what you should pay as your your penalty. So if Allah allows you to arbitrate in matters so small, obviously matters big like the state arbitration has to be allowed. A law allows, as for the airline saying, You can't take the spoils of war, who have you would have taken Ayesha as his concubine. If you
couldn't answer and ask for him removing amino what we need from the 3d from the discussion. While the process along did something bigger than that. When he had the Treaty of Colombia with the kurush. They told him remove this line Muhammad Rasul Allah, except Allah, so he removed Rasulullah, Salah.
And one third it says of the this group of how he came back to that he said no, and he is wrong. In fact, this coffee, he killed Muslims. He made laws that were not right. And they broke away and we no longer so ready, they will fight in my area, and they're already fighting Ayesha. And now they even fight food and enseigner. The law says to them, you look at you is the one Sahabi amongst you, not one single companion is on the theology of your people.
I mean, choose at least one side, either be with the Sahaba that are neutral or more aware
of your life, but you're almost no one you're making your own religion. And the Protestants spoke about this group. He says a group of young people who will pray devoutly and they will they fasting, you're fasting, we're looking forward to the fasting and they will recite the Quran, but they will not it will not teach way from me they won't understand it and they will exit the dean and an arrow exits the boat. These are the hot edge and that they will fight the Muslims and spray the kafar so I lifted but they did something really bad, which forcing it to come to them. They killed the son of hubbub when our opinions about the narrow
again Are you tired? Are you in Thrall?
This time you didn't say throat.
kebab when? Not the Alon. He was the man was tortured the most of the Beloved. He was a blacksmith apprentice. Imagine you work in a blacksmith place and you become asleep. Why do you think that guy was touching hubbub with coal and tongs and burning? He didn't have marks on his body. He had holes in his body. His hubbub and
his son was a fairly well known he this hubbub an adult son and his wife was pretty good. They meet up with Hawaii to the past class and they graduate and they take him prisoner and they said Ah you're hubbub interrupt, son. Tell us a Hadith of the prophets of Salaam and kebab Nara speaks to them. And he says the hi husband Fox fandom, that if basically you find yourself in fitness that no one who is running a city is better than the one who's standing and the one who is lying down is a big meanie avoid fitness, which you can
see, are you referring to us? So they took him prisoner? On the way they found in the garden of a Christian person, a date on the floor and one of them picked it up and is about to eat it and other witnesses eat tequila? Did you pay for that date? You pay for the date.
And then as they move further on, they found a pig and the ones that are any slow to kill this pig.
This pig belong to some Christian it's hard for them. You didn't you need to pay money for this pig. And we caught up in Panama. You guys seem to have so much taqwa. But you've taken me and my wife please enough for no reason. Because we don't agree with your theology of taken as President. What do you say about Omar? What do you say about it? What do you say about Maria? I say that they are good. And now you disagree with me. So they said yes. And they killed him. And they slashed me and you know what they did? They actually cut him from the front. This is how we slaughter animals. This is gonna kill people execution. We live from the back and actually kill them on the front. The first
person in Alabama that was killed, executed like this was the son of hubbub and Otto and his wife, they cut open her belly
as the Sahaba however, it killed him. We say not only heard this, that these people have gone so far overboard, and they theology was so wrapped up in in the key about the pink and the date more than Sahaba. He told them sing me the one who did this so I can execute them. And the response was, we all killed him. We're all together in this scenario, the alarm for them. And again, fighting off the fighting unfortunate scenario, one issue after the other. So this group is called the hot edge and they say
Even though they were defeated by say, 90, they survived. And the theology is what always criticize the leader always look down, and this level of superiority that your Islam is not correct. So you are powerful. And if you're comfortable with that, and if you're attacked, then I can kill you. That's why you say how you bombed masjids How do you bomb schools with girls inside children know that
this is we began a coverage told today, they began this theory this thinking this ultra extremism, this ultra fanaticism, I am beta this only a right or wrong. And if you don't do either with me or against me, this is not part of our team. So this is the average and they curse the money. And they depleted his coffee. And they even said we will have a plot. The only way to fix this we assess in the galley and Maria, and they plan to assassinate both of them.
They succeeded in necessitating a nanny and on the alarm, they murdered in any Salah. And you know, after the Hawaii bridge emerged that curse a night, a counter extreme emerged. One extreme leads to another. So while one group was cursing, say nalli and say that he's misguided is a coffee. Another group say he is right. And everything he does, and he is the best. And he's the only one. And this would be the beginning of theological. She hasn't only
touched the surface of the first week now that basically when the kids say daddy on the line, they tried to kill me. He wasn't killed. He was you know, they weren't. They didn't succeed. The Caliphate, Sinhalese army, basically elected his son, Hassan odilon, to be the halifa. And Hassan had a choice now.
He had a choice what to do next. And it seemed like there was gonna be another civil war between Hassan and Maria, and Hassan about the Alon spatola, there's a Hadith of the prophets of Salaam, we, one day the problem was in the masjid, and he picked a person in front of everyone who was the son of mine, this boy of mine is a seed, because the time is gonna come, we're gonna bring unity between two great groups of the Muslims fighting one another. So Hassan on the line, after they killed segnale. And his army pledged to him the army of Elysee, we appoint you as soon as our leader hasn't said you follow me? Do you obey me? Will you follow my instructions? They said yes. So he said, Tell
me how will I abdicate and he can be the halifa. And no more fighting. He brought peace to the summit
becomes the halifa. In my slides, I speak more about Santa Maria, but I know we are very much out of time. So now it becomes the halifa. And I said he's a very controversial
Sahabi. You know, he's not of the caliber of a man.
But nonetheless, his hobby. And he has a lot of minutes to his name with many IDs in the about impossible mentioned he personally and many things that he did, which will obviously eluded to promising the agenda. And even if we overlook those things, he becomes the halifa and for the next 20 years under this piece, and he's able to expand the amount once again. And even as a campaign against the Romans in Constantinople. He started one campaign and in the Army's proceeding
in the army of Malia Hussein is fighting with him against both him. So the Shia perspective. Malia try to kill me for power to be the halifa we say how is it possible then? Let's say the Hassan gives over the right of Caliphate we also the Shia would say that Allah appointed say that he is the Imam the spiritual Imam. He couldn't just like an AVI you can't say I don't want to be in every design from being that I mean become the design for being the amount so after he passed away hacer la becomes the Hema How can the Imam appoint a coffee to be the halifa? consuming? Impossible, which is the version of history with a real
time?
Should you break Felicia?
Felicia, and if you'd like we could come back and discuss the second
night we would like to discuss it now. I know it will be recorded and show us what they will be up with.
The audio will be available and if not, if it's required for us to to come again.
We leave it to the media to to make the decision is I apologize. It's so big and so long. Do you have any questions on what we've discussed?
Yes.
Right. So they were part of this army and they were in basically in Iraq.
area. So the battle that was fought against is called narrow one, which is basically
from modern day Iraq. That's basically what it is. They went from a specific tribe, but it was a theology a theology of imrs and my understanding is correct. And if you don't agree with me You're wrong in your coffee as hard as you say they fought they even killed one another because they definitely have an opinion but they never judge the man and an hour proper important point to point it to conclude on even though they had battles, it was political meaning you and I can have a big fist fight over at a DA you are dealing with cinema essentially. But when it comes to Salah we stand together, we are Muslims.
You are you following Sinhalese party, you fall in Mario's party ISIS party no problem. So Muslims, the Hawaii just saying No, you are not a machine anymore. This big difference.
And this is the first six and once they start this other six so far in our discussion we haven't yet even began with when she actually emerged the shower that we have today. We still need to get to that it will happen off for the sake of fitness. I think that even more than half the course. So perhaps another half an hour of the show, we can conclude inshallah, so perhaps we can break it and come back.
I'm good to go. I'm good to go.
We will.
Each segment is no no ruling except the ruling of Allah. no judgment except only alecan arbitrators, say 90 say this is a truthful statement to use. But what if you actually want to do evil? All right, we continue the second picnic. So after
second signal, right, this go second signal, right. So after satana our audio and becomes the halifa 20 years and hamdulillah peace and prosperity that oh my goodness happening again.
The Civil War was a distant memory. 20 years ago, we had a big fight and hamdulillah. It's all done. We all united against we all united under Mahalia, who is now the halifa. But a new signal arise, how is that
as he's reaching his device is seeing that he's about to die. he appoints his son yazeed to succeed. He basically says, I don't want to leave the issue of the halifa. Open. Like it was back in the day. I don't want us to have this one. Please. He's halifa and you upload your halifa I am going to do something which I think is correct. I'm going to appoint the halifa and I put my son ye z to be the halifa. You know, guys you are stand up we have a stitch breaks, which Stand up.
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I said the skies this is you know, it's heavy stuff. And it's important stuff. I want to talk if you want to talk about a serious issue, we need to be serious. Right? If you want to talk about a serious issue, I can give you half the story. So yeah, you know that this is a controversial issue involves big stuff. So half an hour an hour, which requires we need to get this topic done properly. Right. So while we're on the line is the halifa. he appoints his son yazeed as a successor. He has he does not have a hobby. He has he does not have the caliber of some of the Sahaba some great Sahaba still alive and he appoints this you know His Son to be the successor now. This wasn't what
happened in the past
abubaker appointed Omar Omar lift a panel of six most qualified people a select yourself, you are putting your son. It's like a kingship now. Right? Your point your son is the halifa is gonna become a dynasty. Right now, from his perspective, he said I need to appoint someone.
And we can again with respect and love and hindsight and say this was perhaps not the best course of action, perhaps malware they should have appointed someone else
or printed or done some other method but he appointed yazeed who was innovative
controversial issue a person to discuss is also hobby. And we can discuss him frankly and openly about it. We don't exaggerate and say his own and the worst of people, we don't exaggerate, you might say he's the most pious Angel write certain things happened on his watch. And they happen. That's facts of history nonetheless, says, I'd like to put my son as the as the halifa, after me, now, the Sahaba and the oma, he has no appetite for civil war. And a lot of people disagree, but they said, You know what, if this happens, we're not gonna fight about it. And five, prominent Sahaba if you go to the next slide, five, prominent Sahaba keep going until you get to the list of
five.
And look at those names. And you'll see the the signs of the elite of the live and almost a nama son
of the man, the son of Abu Bakar, Abdullah, the son of a bus, Abdullah, eventually, that's the day that we spoke about the firstborn vitamins away. And as you're saying them and these five Sahaba told Maria, we don't see what it means, right. And we will oppose. If you're appointing a successor, we are going to keep quiet. Allah says mommy was a great politician, very good at his job. Whether you like him or not, even from the Shia perspective, whether you like him or not, he was a very good politician. And he was able to keep things calm and passive in his life. He didn't attack him, he says, okay, inshallah, we'll see what happens when I die. And we'll see what happens. So after he
passes away, he becomes the halifa of this five, two of them and passed away already. And of the remaining of the remaining Sahaba only as an ally of the live and as always the last two of the lives of eight. And I can say even alley, they oppose you as
the son of Satan or even an Ibis, this is fine. yazeed will need to oppose you. We don't need we don't. We don't like that you want to halifa. And we have a lot of issues, but we don't want the Civil War. So if you are the halifa helaas will give you our pledge the pledge to him. But these two, as we have the Lebanon's way and say that I proceeded with it, they said no, we will not preach that interesting. Look at the succession right in the beginning. So it
is at the back of the camel on both sides, whether
it was on one side was foreseen as debate and the other side here at the London as a way to proceed on the same side, the shoes.
This is politics. And as as politics changes, our views change today, you and I we agree on the same opinion. Tomorrow, we don't have to be on the same opinion, we have a different opinion. And it was the opinion of the library debate and saying that we cannot allow as each of the the halifa, but also the issue of the Civil War. So what did they do? They said, you know, we're not going to give our pledge. But we also are going to basically caused the issue. So they ran away from Medina. And again, we're not going to go into the entire details of the second fitna.
They run away from Medina to Makkah away from the power of the Romanians, and in Makkah, the people of Iraq. Now remember, there were lots of people in Iraq, who supported segnale. And after Hassan said, I'm going to give Maui the pledge. A lot of them are unhappy. Basically, it's like saying Western province. I know you all VA supporters, but we can make it in the ANC province. So now you have to accept, we can make it easy problems. Now 20 years later, a new da arises. So a lot of people says we're going to join this da right. So a lot of supporters are saying that it politically who didn't like Maria and the millions, they said now's our chance to remove malware in domains. So
they told for saying, Come, come to Iraq, and we will stand up behind you, and we will remove yours. And they don't letters upon letters upon letters, 1000s of letters, all of the people of Kufa, all the people of Basra writing liters, per se you in Makkah, come to us come to support you. And again the issue of Karbala, I believe it was a man spoke about this, what exactly happened at Canberra? Again, just to summarize very quickly, so Hussein gets these letters. And as Abdullah is telling him, what should I do at the library, so basically go go to the people of the law, they will support you and we can discuss this issue with you. And he will have to listen to us all we also have our
telling her saying don't do this, don't do this. Even his brother, his brother
had a brother Mohammed bin hanafy. So he married other women of the Fatima passed away and he had other kids. He had a brother Mohammed Al Hanafi, the son of Satan it he told Hussein
Yo, brother, I'm telling you don't go up the ladder boss, by descending, saying, don't go to the people of Iraq. Look at your father, they broke away from his army when your brother Hassan, when he abdicated, they basically checked him out. They're going to do the same to you. He says, I need to go and see. And I can't leave the meta as it is. And they wrote the letters that could be names it signed the petition come, they inviting me, I'm only gonna go to see what they want. I'm not doing with an army. So we're saying, in spite of the beast, I mean, the advice etc, from the other contemporary Sahaba say, normal son, a beloved Omen, perhaps the most senior Sahaba alive at that
time, he makes a special trip from Medina to Makkah to speak to per se Don't do this. But we're saying those are not just him. A lot of members of the IB he sang Hassan songs, about 100 members of the family these are these are blood of lamesa Santa v. This is that boy, that was one of the backup. This is a boy that when he was walking, and he's so coming into the measure that we got off the member and the ranting, picked him up and he says, you know, sorry, I couldn't wait for my grandson to come to me. So I need to him. This is this to be talking about? Blood, flesh and blood of the prophet SAW Santa and his family members. And they go to so now. So they're about to leave,
you know, before he leaves to Iraq, he seems a representative is the situation go and see if the people are already supporting me.
The cousin of her saying his name was Muslim. He went his name is Muslim. He went to Iraq when he got the the people of Iraq supported him, the people of Kufa supported him. And he sent a letter back to her saying, say, Good come the people of Kufa, they support you. While Hussein is leaving towards Iraq. Yes, he obviously finds out. The people of Kufa have risen up against me. And he said, new management, a new governor, go and sort things out. And within the no time, all the people that supported Hussein, they deserted Muslim to the point where Muslim, he came out one day with 1000s of supporters by Muslim time he was basically allowed all of them lift, without any power without any
Force and Army just through bribery, that we as he was able to pay off, the people who see come and support receive the lift. So Hussein doesn't know what's happening in Iraq. He's already on his way towards Iraq. Muslim is taken prisoner and he's executed. And he's dying words. He said, just tell Hussein to leave to go back to Makkah not to come to Iraq. He's walking into a trap, but he doesn't get the message. And by the time he is about to reach Iraq, he gets to a place called Karbala, just outside of Iraq, he realizes that look, the people of Kufa are not going to support me and a army and omega. A group of soldiers will need to fight jihad. They will be directed to say stop saying
don't even get to Kufa. So now Hussein on the line outside of Kufa, and he's surrounded by these soldiers, and the governor who is eat seemed
to say, you have three choices
that you are saying, told the governor, give me three, I give you three or four sentences to the governor, I give you three choices. Either you let us go and we'll go back to Makkah. We're not going to we're not here to fight. I came with family we were women and children. And as soon as he agreed, Hussein came with his family, his newborn baby they were the children, small children with a I'm not here to fight it. The people of Kufa invited me I've come to honor the invitation. If you don't like it, see me get to Makkah, or let me go and speak to you as he personally our speaker, or if this is not okay. They take me alone and put me in an army and alpha God. I'll just get out of
this alpha dziadek like that. Give me those options. This is what options. These are reasonable options. precisely the government. Government says no, this young 20 year old lightning basically system now. I want you to basically get on your hands and knees, kiss my hand and preach to your seat. belittle yourself publicly
do that. Today, hands on the promises phenomenal. I can't do that. And if you don't do that is only the sword.
The army that surrounds
the soldiers. We did not count to fight the geyser casilla. We're soldiers by gi and he has he keeps the governor the governor of ESD. After a week goes by the one time you know the limitations you find the one locked to the water and still the one that has the water. They want to have food. They weren't allowed to leave women and children in this lobby and eventually
After, after about a week goes by the soldier not doing anything that governance is why they are doing anything.
Even maintenance when what time came, the soldiers and the followers are saying They all stood up behind. He was making him up, even the soldiers. So eventually, the governor of Kufa, he found the worst thugs he could, for whatever price take out percent. And they did. And they came in and they massacred not just for sake of your life, they killed
all the males except one. And even a baby was killed. And they did so brutally. And the last surviving male was for saying No One No One
as bad as they were, they never you know to take that who's gonna stab the grandson of the officer salon, but a man shoot
he did the deed he killed
the grandson of approximately killed him, and they decapitated him and they mutilated his body and they sent his head to Kufa and they didn't even bury them even the promises of them buried on the backlog but they didn't even bury the this is an all these people that die their sons of Satan IE sons of Hassan, sons of Hussein, grand sons of the prophets of Salaam, this is what they did to them and they took the city to Kufa and this government.
He puts the head of
in the masjid and he takes a stick and he starts hitting the lips of assizes
stuff I saw the lips of Ross was solemn on those lips.
Stop what you're doing.
So, this is what they did. They kill the grandson and a baby one time walked by and they buried the the people of Karbala bury them in the body, a person was very big, and that's the sad story of Karbala, and
he, you know, strong I'm gonna talk about the Z but nonetheless, just to to summarize what happened afterwards. So Hussein was killed on the azeez. Watch. Abdullah debate. He's still around, he's still in Makkah. And in fact, in terms of history, a lot more exciting because he actually succeeds in becoming the halifa. But yes, it sends an army because the window oma is you killed Hussein like this. Yes, we didn't want to fight but what you did went overboard. Now he loses support. Now the people have money has nothing to do with you. Yes, he is governor. When that happens, yes, he took an army and he entered Medina the army as he entered Medina, and even the women were not states on a
law and in the people of mockery belt behind of the libraries away. So they invaded Mecca, and the Kaaba was damaged. So this man is he on his watch. Hussein was killed, Medina was attacked. the sanctity of Medina was in the women of Medina was not protected. Even markets of the Kava itself was damaged. So it's a bad track record and then he died. Then he died. But as for the sheer
the minutes even off the as he died, the family of the omegas were able to retain control. The Omarosa of the Lebanese obey became a family for 14 years, but he lost and the Romanians kept control and power. And they would make they would really assert the dynasty. So now the followers of Ali and the followers of poseen, who deserted Ali and deserted Hudson, and for a third time deserted Hussein, they blame themselves. And a few years later, after, they would come to the place of Karbala thinking if only we came to Karbala, only a few soldiers, we were like 40,000, we can overpower them. Why did we not come? So what did they do? They stood at the same
sort of meeting which is hitting themselves. This is where it began. And this is really from our Sunni perspective, way theological. She hasn't begun so far, all political, even, even Satan, ie, when they asked him about the holiday, he said, I don't call them too far, that they have transgressed. I don't call them too far. Even Hussein did not call yazeed coffee. But now this group said after Hussein was killed in this way, and they blame themselves and they were in so much guilt, they call themselves but to being
on one of our slides, the rights far we need to go. Many of these slides, they'll call the tow lobbying the painters, and they now see it for us, we have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with anyone, the only people who have the right to be the halifa or the debate, and that they will have halifa to be from the beginning. And everyone who insulted or insulted anyone disagreed with it.
Neither Sydney fathima nice cafe it's always on. And this is where Shiism began. theological Shiism wasn't enabled by politics. Basically, it's like saying, you know, what, if you don't support the DA, you can
imagine, for example, the MTC came up and says, guys, I think you should put the DA, then we base for us XYZ politics, if you don't, no problem. But if they come out, and they say, if you don't vote for the DA, who have a different argument altogether, yes. And this is what the she announced, came out, this group of group of people say, after Hussein was killed in this way, and they hated the domain so much. The call was that the only people who have the right of leadership is the family of a prophet that elevate and everyone else who rule besides them is happy and supportive. So this is the beginning of theological Shiism. So now in the oma. So after all, this was the aftermath, right?
What's the conclusion? conclusion is the omegas are in political control, they remain in control, and they will expand the Congress failed to do many great things. But it becomes the kingship, they would love the palaces, there'll be like a royalty. And they would, some of them will be good. Some of them will be very, very bad. And they will persecute repeat to down anyone who spoke out against them, especially anyone called again for the family of the prophets of Salaam.
So the opposition, said anything about government control the opposition of those who sees the underweight the family of profits, they should be in the government, they really, really low key undercover.
And they become a group, a theological group. And I think if we skip skipping, keep skipping the slides. Let's go next. Next, next.
Keep going. Okay, sorry, go back one step back. Yeah. Yeah, a new theologian, right, that says only a Federal Poverty Level authority. And also,
if only the family of the prophecies, and that should have been the leaders and political leader, how come they chose? And almost, no, they were all wrong. And they were Catholic. So now, when you take the Sahaba out of the equation, they had these becomes null and void. How do you actually learn right from wrong? How do you understand the Quran? They said, No, allow an appointed representative from a family of a processor now, and He will guide us and this is how he Ma'am, the concept of inanimate
she had emailed me Yeah, this is me. So this is not a theological. Now they've added a new thing to the beliefs, our beliefs of the six pillars that they've added a new thing. And you need to believe in the concept of a divinely appointed person from the family of a prophet or Santa will only he has the right to interpret and use the following.
Understand how she has evolved. Okay.
Within this group, there are different groups, you still had political shares, and this is where you get the xavc.
Sometimes I say,
what do we mean? They were a group, let's see the prophets families. They should be the Imam, they should be the halifa. I want to ask them what you say about what
I'm saying the way it shouldn't be the leaders, but the descendants of Ali and they should be in charge. They will call disease. So they they will still politically Shia. theologically, Shia is a great stuff.
on board with me right now. You had political Shiism, and theological she has a political she hasn't basically disappeared, there was a these that basically disappear, and now you have theological she has a concept that found that one of the fundamental things is this concept of an Imam. Now, I can stop here. And this is why she hasn't began. But how did we get to where we are today? And if I go to our next point, the Fatima dynasty, if I can do this very, very quickly. So the Shiism is based on a divinely appointed person from the family or the same family.
Now think about this. There is no Hadeeth there's no saying who should be the man. So they say that is the man when he died. Hasson became the Imam when Hassan died. Why Hussein? Why not Hassan son. And so every time a Imam died, there was a dispute within the Shia theology and they had a split. No, but he should have been the email. No, karma is the email. Okay. So she hasn't as it was back off the off the Kabbalah.
They believe it was the first email it hasn't received an increase in Sun Valley, St. Augustine, who had nothing to do with any of this. He was even wait two years even mithya. See, he lived a quiet private life in Medina. He didn't
raising any armies or anything you people say, I'm just making you by the Zamani first focus on the Son of God.
And she hasn't though
they would never really have power and they would never achieve
attaining political power except through the smiley defaults. And this is not relevant for so much today, but they were able to take control for a number of centuries as the halifa. Now, what is main is who are the Cisco one slide?
Alright, so for most of the history has
been the dominant so the ship the actual estimate is up until recently, the
ltr the real McCoy she has we have today in here on the
side sixth.
Shiism is Smiley's for the strong ones today the weaker ones. Right. So who are these mines? Right? And with enthusiasm, the the secret because that's the biggest split when it goes when it's right.
Next night. How did this happen? So the sixth Mr. Jaffa saw that he was number six. So in the sheer list of 12 Imams, the sixth one Jaffa, Swati graviola, great Imam Abu hanifa even studied with him, as he was one of these teachers. Never did this man raise an army or a flag or anything. He was just a teacher, chaffer assadi. Now, according to the Shia doctrine, he was the 16th man, and usually the sun would inherit the moment from the Father, okay. When the father dies, the son becomes the new Imam, and he should be the halifa and he understands that but your oldest son will die in his lifetime.
This is a new problem. What do we do? The amount older son died. So the Shia split. One group said no, the Knicks the young, the younger son,
the youngest son Moosa, he is the Mr. Musa he is the seventh Imam. The other group said no, Jaffa aside his oldest son is money. He had a secret son that no one knew about.
And he is the mom of three his father. And these were these are COVID-19 is now the current chair of Iran. They take Moosa moussaka as they save among the Israelis, they smile as they save the man. And when he died, they said he sang in inverted commas is the amount that he didn't like. He said, occultation, he is the man. So they will call the Smokies and this sick actually they were the bigger group and this was the 12 was for the smaller group. And they span a lot as we go. Now. You know, having an Imam that tells you what to do and interprets what you do is a bit dangerous to begin with. A man who says this * but he knows everything we asked him for everything he is guide
Allah tells us now we have a situation of a group of scholars that says there is an Imam, but only he only speaks to us and we'll tell you what he says. He understand where the abuse is going on what is going to come through, right? So this group this man, is he going next slide. Right they believe and we're not going to go into the beliefs they go to the next slide.
I go to the next slide.
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Let's just this is we we are getting to within a promise you right. So now the split and she has in between Smiley's and the twelvers the Smiley's they don't even have an Imam anymore. And they have a group of scholars who are telling you what the mom is saying and they had views they had strange views and it became even more absurd and corrupt. And just to show you how bad it was a group of Israelis actually went to Makkah stole the Blackstone hydro asset for 20 years. And they said we stayed on Abadi
and they they see that everything is you people don't understand the true Quran we have a hidden without What you need is the surface is a deeper meaning but it's what what hedge hedges are going to market hedges to visit the amount that's what hedging really means. So this group, the Smiley's they there's no checks and balances anymore. You really threw the Sahaba out you threw the Hadith out you say that there is a divinely appointed man that understands the Quran he doesn't exist anymore. So now any person is not in touch.
In the Quran, a hidden tick. And this group eventually actually, they succeed in setting up a kingdom in North Africa. They come to Tunisia, and they succeed in setting up a kingdom in North Africa. And they build and they build, and the kingdom actually becomes the Fatima kingdom. And they are able to,
and they are able to to actually raise halifa. So from if you go through the slides quickly,
this a lot because a lot of the stuff
I saw the some of the beliefs, very strange release, still day they still around, keep going.
They believe the mom is the physical manifestations that station of Allah keep going.
Right.
So this is the group of parameter you can read up on the later ones that stole the Blackstone, right?
for 20 years, they kicked it with you. in, in, in Bahrain.
Right.
Yeah.
Right. So the funny thing is, this group actually came into power. And they ruled for two 300 years from 900 in the Gregorian calendar until 1171.
So again, remove the
need to remove them. So they can rule North Africa. And they actually had a halifa for 300 years. So that she added nearly two political power was this is not the 12 hours that we have today, not the ones in Iran into this room. Now, that kingdom for 300 years, they rule Salatin, he was the one that ended the caliphate. And they survived till today, the Father, the smiley, these are still here today. We don't yet have them very much the Latino community, a very small minority. But the idea, let's go, let's talk about the smart cities that are here today.
They call the
word about this term, you might heard the term then what it means, then is idea.
So this group actually has an Imam that's alive today. But he said he is the Imam that Allah communicates and he alone understands the Quran, they play him 10% of the charity is 15 million of them that follow this man going through let's see how it looks like.
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the link between a lot and mankind the living manifestation of a law
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of 149
million people they mix
the mix to this man, you know, a few weeks ago, the president of of Canada got into trouble Why? Because he was given a free holiday on the other fancy private island in the Caribbean.
as men are the richest man in the world. He believes in 50 million believes that he is the living mom. Right So listen, it's 96 there's not the she hasn't we are
sick. They call the other high. Right? Let's keep moving through the section.
Smile this man's grandfather. He there is no one greater than myself. If you think of God is myself if you think of the peer
right if you think about Imam the Imam right so this is I am the basically the divine manifestation Allah. This is the belief of the smiley Shia.
Right.
As the Europeans love this guy, he's a he's regarded as a monarch without the country. He's like he's like he's like royalty.
World is an island. He had so many supermodels and actresses that he married in divorce as one of the I don't think he's embarrassed himself yet to decide to
go
there's other group rules they also Smiley's we can skip them to resist the quite prominent in Lebanon.
All right. Keep going until you get to section the last section.
Like
the second dynasty, script somebody. So that's the history. So essentially, how it began off the
split is Smiley's and twelvers, the Hitman etc. The big time they became the ultimate they'd all kind of a celebrity removed him. And what did you make of this now is the offense. So how did the Iranian Shia get to where we are today in Iran? How did that happen? Well,
that's only quite recent.
The recent only been 400 years that Iran was a Shia country.
After the Mongolians are 12, we carrabba happened 60 years of the process are we talking 1005 three and 1200 years later, much, much later, after the Abbasid dynasty was removed the Mongolia is the story of that. Right.
Iran, Iran was a Sunni Shafi country, like 99.9%, Iran was so strong Sunni that the Ottoman halifa we all will but often when they wanted to turn scholars, they say things
that are strong Sunni Shafi Iran was, this is the 14th it took like 600 years ago, 500 years ago,
there was a Sufi group in Azerbaijan, called the suburbia, they were Sufi tariqa, where they idolize the Imam, to the point where they started worshipping the human. Right. They were a Sunni Sufi mystic owner called the Sahaba. in Azerbaijan, they began worshipping the Imam. In fact, they even like two to three miles. And in one of the moms, he said, I'm not I'm not happy, just being a spiritual man. I actually want political power. So he armed his historical historical, military, Army, military forces, and they invaded Iran. This isn't the 60s 15 or one 16th century, they invaded Iran. And this group.
The leader is cool. His name was he's married. He the head of the satanic tariqa. He converted to Shia Islam, and he converted to twelver Shia, so he didn't choose this many shares. He chose the minority the 12. She has, right so 12 she has what do they say? There'll be 12 Imams and the 12th. One is is the melody and he's either He's like, it's like, he signed a petition waiting for him. Right. So he converted to 12. Shiism and his army conquered Iran. And he basically through force converted a population of Sudanese 99% Sunni into Shia and this is about 200 years We do this
by non Muslim scholars, historians, the safavid conversion of Iran to she has a Sunni Shafi population, they forcefully converted the people on mass into she has a you have three choices. You either convert or you leave we execute with you on our kill massagin will destroy the even the stoic the mission will be a shine the shine of color Gilani, Imam, Abu hanifa. They think about the destroy all these things they banned Sunni Islam. And through force, they basically converted
from nowhere, they brought the Shia scholars were living in Lebanon, the twelver Shia brought him to Iran. And they basically forced Iran into she has a Sunni my view even we look at Western historians, they will say the way he converted, it was brutally the way the the settlements converted. And they say that the dynasty and the dynasty was we are shia sect, religion, Shia and we're Persian. We're bringing back the Persian Empire. We believe that Persia before Iran was ruled by Arabs, Muslims, right, we got rid of the Persians. Now we bring back the hisar and all the Persian heritage and we are distinct from the rest of the oma and for 200 years old and different
kingdoms came in late, but now Iran was suddenly shut out by the population became solidly Shia
50 years ago. So as received the kingdoms, Kings ruled and died one but they're all Shia. But now politically, things were up there, the sharp and the Shah of Iran is in a modern Africa. Now we're talking the 20th century. He was Shia, and he was the king of Iran. But he was a modernist
drank wine, you know, wasn't was about this year.
It was about Russia. And obviously the Shia.
Were not happy with this. And they basically had in 1979, and Islamic Revolution, like the images in
the image they see all of you saw that this was a dangerous.
They
they overthrow the government, they overthrow the government to say we remove the Shah, and we in place, the
country. So we see what 400 years you had a government that was not that, you know, they weren't the clergy. They weren't.
They were politically charged and they brought the Shia
I'm gonna hint to make Iran Shia, but they are still a government, a political leader. You are the political leader, you Shah, and you had the presence of the interests of the head of the Shia clergy, the ayatollah, right the clergy. Now, in 1979, the clergy, the MDC, overthrew the government, and they control. So in Iran, you actually have the Allah, the Shia, that are ruling Iran, and Aquila Khomeini, who actually wrote about the Iranian Revolution, he came up with a concept we like to study. Now, the Shia are 12, because they always had a concept that Allah will not be the political interest. But he changed it. He says, as the law will be in charge of minor
matters. He will also know that what am I will take control of the major markets, while the man we're waiting for is absent. We are his representatives. So for all intents and purposes, the clergy of Iran, we are we like to study we are in charge. And that's the current state of Iran. And so now we can understand so now 12, Shiism, from the sub elites, they converted Iran and Azerbaijan into into 12 shears, this is maintained for 400 years, and from the this is how the world, the Shia center is Iran because of them. And just in my last one or two points to make here. When the Iranian Revolution occurred, 1979 was happening in South Africa. We're going through our home revolution.
And we saw a group of grandma with beards, overthrowing the corrupt dictator, King in Iran, for Islamic purposes. Beautiful. It gave lots of people yet in South Africa, a lot of Muslims the courage to do the same against our own dictators. And that's why a lot of Muslims,
a lot of Muslims sympathize and admire Ayatollah Khomeini, and they admire what happened in Iran, and then Maya,
throwing out a king, who basically loved the big life like a, like a film star, and stole from these people. And it was a puppet of the Western world, they threw him out. And they stood up and said, We don't care what any disease or disease or Britain sees. We are our own. And we are proudly, she is
so
inspirational. And that's why lots of Muslims in South Africa, why they identify with the Iranian Revolution. And that's 19 to understand the link and the point. And remember, we said she hasn't began as a political issue. Right from the beginning, it was about leadership, and evolved into theology. And now today, we've got the theology, and people still are using it. While it the people that are fighting in Syria. They don't care about Sunni, or Shia Islam. I don't think a God fearing Sunni or God fearing Shia would bomb and kill women, children. That's not gonna happen. But it's an easy instrument to use. They are Shia, we hate them.
Because I share the curse, Masha, let's kill them. They sue me, they curse it because it they killed foresight, kill them. This is what's happening. And we need to understand the context of where we fit into the bigger picture. We are here in South Africa. We are Sunni. I haven't been here for a long, long time. And obviously, all these groups are here, she has
a different question, but I can understand how they evolve and how they are structured and where they come from and what the objectives have.
I spoken wait too long, and I apologize for taking probably double the time that was required of me.
Please, please forgive me. And
they are the key questions before we conclude these two, three minutes.
Yes, in many of
the time, we believe honestly, that we will be guided to overthrow this government that way, because we will.
And we were guided by the
people
that
are being used
to us. So if we think about
what we are now, there is a strategy
that 50 years ago situation has evolved.
And it is not
quite
as I said, when we saw when our forefathers or grandparents basically assumed Muslim scholars overthrowing this thing and all the other puppet governments around the world Muslims doing nothing allowing Israel
To do what it wanted through the Palestinians, or that one country has the guts to stand up, it was amazing. But they didn't dig deep and say well what do you believe? Like Nelson Mandela For example, we love him with politics and all that but we can keep it simple as your politics that your religion and the same way we can say we take the political standard, and we admire you for certain things that you did and you know, you know what, for example, he will fit so we know which side we support. We know we started with support, right? But we didn't say that at the same time we say we don't take your theology right we that's the maturity we need to have remember the Shia is an all or nothing
you either 100% or your cases 100% we can say no, we love all Sahaba the sum and stolen made mistakes but we love all of them.
And we support all of them. Same with you know, our political leaders today same thing. So inshallah I think we need to enough now.
Last last question.
12 years 12 years that's the 12 she has a she has some of Iran that's the one that you see that's what we have in authority very very few Smiley's you've come across in your life property our hands many many
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