The Subcontinent Scholars

share this pageShare Page
Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

Channel: Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

Topics: Fiqh

Episode Notes

Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari discusses the contribution and specific characteristics of the Scholars of the Indian Subcontinent in the field of Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh).

Episode Transcript

© No part of this transcript may be copied or referenced or transmitted in any way whatsoever. Transcripts are auto-generated and thus will be be inaccurate. We are working on a system to allow volunteers to edit transcripts in a controlled system.


00:00:07--> 00:00:12

For salatu salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad he was a marine while living

00:00:15--> 00:00:18

alone aluminum and found out when found out

00:00:20--> 00:00:23

a lot to deal with

00:00:25--> 00:00:35

especially brothers and sisters as salaam alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh First of all, I would like to thank all of you for coming here today we are learning would you all a few inshallah older brothers and sisters

00:00:37--> 00:00:39

also like to thank and

00:00:41--> 00:00:55

show gratitude to the organizers of today's event to Ross publishers, throughout publishing, and to Bryan college. For getting this together, putting this together and inviting me It's an honor and privilege to be here.

00:00:57--> 00:01:01

We have many speakers that we'll be talking about, as you know, the theme of today's

00:01:02--> 00:01:32

event, the legacy of the scholar, the scholars of the subcontinent, the automa, of the Indian subcontinent. And the various speakers will be talking from different angles from different backgrounds. We've already heard sections of Doha speaking after me there will be other speakers who will talk about the legacy of the scholars from the Quranic perspective, from the Hadith perspective, and as it was advertised, my

00:01:34--> 00:01:47

concentration will be on the legacy of the scholars in terms of their contribution towards this is actually a very advanced topic, very important topic. I just have a few points that I wanted to share with you

00:01:49--> 00:01:52

is actually a very important part of our Dean

00:01:54--> 00:02:04

jurisprudence many of you may want all of you have heard of, it's part and parcel of our life assessment with Dean. There is no movement in our life without

00:02:05--> 00:02:46

the laws, the rules, the injections of Sharia. A human being man or woman cannot move without the laws of Sharia. It relates to every part of our life, every part every second every moment for our life is connected to fit. And this fit is the understanding of the Quran and Sunnah. It's not something which is besides the Quran and Sunnah. Fifth is the understanding of the Quran and Sunnah basically, literally linguistically. philic means to understand, in Arabic You have to have coal, which means to understand, and the one who has this understanding, well, actually in the Arabic language, from the linguistic point of view, you have to tap to sort of words

00:02:47--> 00:03:05

and you have folk over your food, there's actually a difference one is fapy Hmm, which means to have some sort of understanding, basic understanding every human being has this Firstly, I have a basic understanding of whatever you know, they have understanding. So if somebody has a basic understanding of something

00:03:06--> 00:03:31

that is known as the highest level and the one who has that understanding is known as far pay. And then there is another from the same root word you have. boo, boo, which means someone who has a real deep understanding, and the one who has this deep understanding is known as floppy and floppy is a jurist, the pluralist folk Aha, we've had alcohol from the time when the first Puppy was who was the first puppy

00:03:32--> 00:04:15

so you don't folk Aha, a messenger sallallahu Sallam who better understood the Quran and his own statements and the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he was the first copy of his own mother who say you haha, because basically means to go deep to understand, to understand the Quran and Sunnah is basically what it is. So the messenger sallallahu alayhi, wa sallam was the first copy. But this is not for everyone. That's what when we see the companions, the Sahaba of the Allahu anhu, how many companions would hundreds and 1000s of Sahaba, but from them as the amount of Napoleon puts it, between 120 to 154, has a habit that says nobody else out of the 1000s of Sahaba companions, how

00:04:15--> 00:04:50

many, most of them and many of them were relating Hadith, they were relating Hadees they were relating Hadith narrated by Abu huraira, the Allahu anhu was known as the most prolific narrator of Hadith. Many of them were relating Heidi, but when it came to understanding going deep into the aspects of the Hadees whether there's How do you sort of reconcile between contradiction and aerations is this nasef is this one. So is this abrogating Hadith has this been abrogated? What is the deeper meaning of this? What is the literal meaning of this? What is the deeper meaning of this? How do you reconcile between different types of integrations? How do you reconcile between some

00:04:50--> 00:04:59

edits and poron is all to do with fake so there will only be between 120 to 115 sorry, 120 to 150 150

00:05:00--> 00:05:05

However, who are known to be the fuqaha they were deriving laws they were extracting laws from the Quran and Sunnah.

00:05:06--> 00:05:33

And the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in the Hadith, of Muslim, telemedia and elsewhere, he mentioned the virtues of the number those who are not fuqaha. There's also virtuous for those kinds of Sahaba companions as well as the later there'll be the ones who are just narrating, but specifically for the fukada messenger sallallahu it he was sending me said no God, Allah will send me I mean Hadith and for her father who were Beloved, for

00:05:35--> 00:05:57

the messengers of Allah doesn't use the word 15 for the harmony 15 laser before Allah illuminate the person meaning his face, his heart law illuminate, this is a two hour from the messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam May Allah illuminate the man who hears a hadith from me, and then he memorizes it, and then he

00:05:58--> 00:06:09

relates it to somebody else. This actually is a Dora for the narrator of Hades, the one who just hears it and then release it to somebody else. And then the messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam said, for

00:06:11--> 00:06:50

me, the one sometimes was relating is actually not a puppy. He just released the heading. And in another reply, he said for Obama, loving our means mirroring, sometimes the one whom to whom he relates to have you too is more understanding of the Hadith itself. So there's many virtues there's a hadith as well, in Sahil Buhari the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he said, My UD de la will be higher on you to begin with whoever Allah intends good, Allah gives them him a deep understanding. Now you didn't know will be higher on the photography D. So there's numerous, numerous narrations. And as I said, this is not for everybody. Because Vic is very specific. It

00:06:50--> 00:07:32

really requires a lot of intelligence, a lot of deep understanding. It requires a lot of effort as well, a lot of time. You know, not a lot of people have time, Phil is only for people who have time who can take time seriously. Yes, if you've got a wife who's going to complain, then you can never be a puppy. When the brothers because you can't you need a wife who will sacrifice everything your day and night as the people who are involved in they have phone calls coming in at 11 o'clock. 12 o'clock, one o'clock, two o'clock. Sometimes you have to answer 100 200 questions per week. I'm not saying month 100 200 questions per week, seriously. So this is not for everybody, this film is very,

00:07:32--> 00:07:55

sort of requires a lot of effort. And that's why there were certain companions who are the Allahu anhu, who are from the 1000s, who are known to be fuqaha. And then from them that their own and then the great tambourine after them. And he carried on, and he carried on through the centuries through the eras and he came to the Indian subcontinent, in the subcontinent and hamdulillah Allah blesses of continent with many great fuqaha and many great

00:07:56--> 00:07:59

scholars in different sciences, but especially in fact,

00:08:01--> 00:08:15

in when it came to filk, we'll hear the you know, the other speakers talking about Hadith and Quran. But I just want to talk about some brief points. And based on those points, I will give you some examples, some important features, or

00:08:17--> 00:08:33

salient features or some important features in terms of the contribution of the scholars of the Indian subcontinent when it came to tip number one, as you know, remember, these are numbers points that I'm going to mention too. Time is very short. I have like about 1012 points, but I don't know if I'll be able to get through all 1012.

00:08:35--> 00:08:37

The first point is that

00:08:38--> 00:09:23

as you know, the scholars of the subcontinent to hanafy, most of the Muslims in the in the subcontinent Hanafi there are some shadowfang so they were deeply rooted in Hanafi Fiqh, they were deeply rooted in Hanafi Fiqh. However, one of the characteristics of the Ummah, on the fuqaha of the subcontinent is that, even though they were deeply rooted in the fifth of an Imam, Abu hanifa, the Allahu anhu, their effect was new Seuss and text oriented, as opposed to some other hanafis in other parts of the world. For example, if you go to Turkey, or you go to Syria, I stayed two years in Syria studied there, you could see a big difference between the fuqaha of Syria and the upper half

00:09:23--> 00:09:59

of the subcontinent. In Turkey, which I visited recently, you will find there are very, very much text based in terms of sorry, very much thick text based, whereas in the hands of the scholars of the subcontinent, you will see big and the reason for this is that the scholars of the subcontinent have always had a lot of deep connection with Hadith as one of the speakers will speak about, you know, the connection, the allume the knowledge of the science of Hadith moved from the Arab world in the last 14th in the last century, the Islamic Hijri calendar 14th century to move to the subcontinent, Shahada

00:10:00--> 00:10:19

bajo de Mola used to say that the knowledge of Hadees knew from the Arab world and in the last century it moved to the Indian lands. And this is why we see that in the recent 100 years great scholars like Lima and Russia Kashmiri Rahim Allah he wrote a commentary on Sahil Buhari we have

00:10:21--> 00:11:01

shalida Hassan puri Rahim Allah writing a commentary 20 volumes on the Center for Buddhahood you have chef is a Korean candle we are writing original mosaddek 16 volumes commentary on the Molotov nomadic you have shusha murni writing commentary on Sahih Muslim and I will share with you today with money also writing the completion of that in Arabic, which is quite significant if there's nobody Allahu Adam, according to my knowledge right now living in the world today who has an Arabic commentary on one of the major six books of Hadith throughout the world except for his money. But anyway, these were great scholars in the last 100 years who contributed to the science of Hades now

00:11:01--> 00:11:40

when they have contributed the science of how it is going to affect their field. Without a doubt even Koran they wrote books and articles for our common Quran. So despite being text, you know, very much solid in the Hanafi madhhab they were very much Quran and Sunnah based as well. I don't know if you understand what that means. But anyway, those who understand they understand and that's what we'll find that a lot of the thick of the subcontinent scholars is found in their Hadith commentaries. So you'll find she has a career mo writing a commentary on the Mokpo medic and will tell you about how he facilitates this shift. He says this medic says this. I haven't been humble

00:11:40--> 00:12:25

says this and Hani, Abu hanifa has deleted this 1234 you'll find you know the commentary of empowerment Kashmiri Rahim Allah on second Buhari Frankel buddy and he mentioned the evidences of the Hanafi madhhab and the most monumental, classic work. This is a colossal work 20 volume work. compendium of hidden hanafy proofs, written by chef, refer Ahmed osmani Attorney at Law, the nephew of hachimura memoranda returned to him over 20 volumes in Arabic, all the proofs of the Hanafi madhhab from the beginning to end proofs from the Hadith and from the Sahaba. From the statements and the author of Sahaba rhodiola. I know it's printed, it's available. The first volume actually

00:12:25--> 00:13:11

was then printed and sort of edited by multiples Manisha hublin. Fatah himolla, he published its hit the introduction of that book in a separate book in our world, and this is taught when I was in Syria, this was actually one of the shelves down there used to actually teach this book to the students. 20 volumes are Allahu sunit. This was written by who shave refer Achmed was murni, the nephew of hakima oma, a chef mo da, Rahim Allah under the guidance of hakima oma, a shareholder and a chef at Atari Rahim Allah under his guidance and his leadership and the his sort of dictation. And this is a colossal, colossal, monumental 20 volume compendium of Hanafi madhhab proofs like you

00:13:11--> 00:13:50

know, this is the reason why this was compiled. Shahada return Rahim Allah felt that people like today, they are raising their voices against the mud hubs that look these modems are based on weak proofs or this or that brother, weak whatever. So therefore, he thought it's very much needed that the proofs of the mother be gathered. And, you know, strong proof. So he got these were gathered, and this was the whole reason for it. So he ordered his nephew to do this. So you have this is one of the very important features of the Hanafi scholars of the subcontinent, the focus of the subcontinent

00:13:51--> 00:13:52

number two,

00:13:55--> 00:13:57

when it came to following a mud hub,

00:13:59--> 00:14:01

the scholars of the subcontinent

00:14:02--> 00:14:22

they methodology they must look or the understanding was that yes, we follow one EMA. That's it, topology shops. This is another topic I don't want to go into this topic of the bleed woodloch choccy, whatever. But we restrict ourselves to one Imam as much as possible. Okay.

00:14:23--> 00:14:59

And moving out from the mud hub. That today we follow the sharper image of tomorrow we follow the Maliki and then the next day for a humbling morning or Hanafi afternoon on my shelf in the evening. I've got four wives here. This was something that they did not entertain and they will quite strict on as opposed to some other Hanafi fuqaha of other parts of the world. if you for example. Example go to Syria and I stayed there as I told you, people, the scholars, some of my teachers are very relaxed. It's okay take it off. You know the medical centers take care of Samia chef a Maliki Hanbury but and the reason for this is that

00:15:00--> 00:15:39

Originally it's not haram because we say all four are correct. They are all four understandings of the Quran and Sunnah they are all four different approaches, explanations, interpretations of the Quran and Sunnah. So, and everyone did the HDR, and Allah will accept all four. It's just the understanding of 1000s of scholars over 1000s of years for each of the methods. So, therefore, originally, it's not a problem. It's permissible, however, because of the reason because of the fact that if we give this open sort of leeway, what will happen is that people will start following don't desire it.

00:15:40--> 00:15:52

And this is why like chef Moodle hasn't hasn't adobo, Indonesia, Korea, Candelaria. Hola, both of them stated that this is not a Islamic Chateau a ruling that you have to stick to one it's actually a sort of,

00:15:53--> 00:16:04

it's a photo given in order to stop people from following the desires because people will start taking easy rules which Quran condemns it for eternity.

00:16:06--> 00:16:22

However, there are certain cases in which this could be permissible. So therefore, it's not like absolutely Haram, but in certain cases, but there are strict conditions. So the folklore of the subcontinent they were very very particular about the strict conditions only when there's like, for example, genuine hardship

00:16:24--> 00:16:36

or hardship add extreme need or widespread need, only then and they put conditions down. So it's like Like for example, I'll give you an example in the Hanafi madhhab a woman whose

00:16:37--> 00:17:17

this was the original ruling whose husband goes missing in Morocco food food is the one who's convincing you know what the original ruling is that she has to keep waiting waiting waiting waiting until the time comes that it's sort of presumed that all his friends have died the husband's friends have all died so like you know, when when you presume now the husband's reached about 8090 Mottola, cron or about 8090 years of age, then that's when then the car the the judge will say okay, now we think most likely your husband's dead, you'll be waiting for 40 years, he's not gonna come back. Now. He's probably dead. Now you do that. Now. Unicode is fast and that 85 year old booty old woman

00:17:17--> 00:17:56

you know is going to get married Mashallah, this is origin hanafy mother viewpoint. So this call is later Hanafi scholars in the subcontinent as well, like Kamala, mahalo wrote a book, specially not just this particular issue, but many issues that were relating to women finding difficulty hardship, so women were leaving Islam. So he actually compiled the whole book and hated to Nergis, I will moderate Elijah, you know, specific book for weight weighs out for a woman is it better and he he actually approached the Maliki madhhab the scholars and he gave fatwa that the hanafis in this particular matter, need to follow the Maliki method visibility for the medical model to become a

00:17:56--> 00:18:32

monitored and leave Islam? Of course. So, in certain extreme hardship cases, they did say yes, we have to follow, you know, the we must follow the scientific method. But in cases, if there's a genuine need widespread need hardship, then what will happen, we will give the ruling and allow people to follow another mother. But at the same time as the conditions, the one who's doing that must consult the great scholars of the other method. When hachimura himolla was writing his book, he consulted with a top medical scholars from Makkah and Medina and also them some one or two other kind of

00:18:33--> 00:18:47

conditions. They put, like, for example, the fee, which is when you make a combination of two modems, which is not allowed according to anybody, right? That's another issue I don't have time to go into but that's another sort of routing, or another condition they put

00:18:49--> 00:18:51

number three, the third point

00:18:53--> 00:19:04

the third Hosea or specific distinctive feature of the alcohol the jurists of the subcontinent, is that they put a lot of emphasis on a person

00:19:05--> 00:19:14

acquiring proper training, before he sits on the position of giving religious verdicts and buildings and giving fatwa.

00:19:15--> 00:19:59

Today, we live in a time everyone's an expert except the experts. Everyone's been emotional, everybody has an opinion. These people will very particular very particular. They said this is a science. It's not for any Tom, Dick and Harry or collusion hub center, but not everyone's job to start giving fatwas and religious verdicts until a person does not spend time under the guidance and then does not undergo training under the guidance of a you know, expert for p he is banned it has heard wrong. Even earlier scholars said this katiba daddy mentioned this in Israel for the whole motherfucking so this was something that

00:20:00--> 00:20:15

They really emphasize the point. You know what Mr. Merrick said, day two, I never gave a fatwa football doesn't just mean like official photo, but even telling someone a legal verdict had shahida Lee server owner men who are in a moment

00:20:17--> 00:20:55

until 70, people who are more knowledgeable than me, gave testimony that I am worthy of giving you my magic how many people 70 and you know, the 70 people, what kind of people who take up this money when he when he when he was telling this, teaching us this in class? He said, Remember, don't worry, don't look at the number 70 look at men who are alarmingly 70 people above me, not below me. So people under you can all tell you Marshall is the greatest chef, you know, on Facebook, they're all like you measure like amazing chef doesn't matter doesn't do anything. But if your teachers if people above you, if they say yes, you are great, then this is an indication in Sharla that

00:20:55--> 00:21:03

according to Allah, you are, you know, you have something. So therefore, they were very particular about this.

00:21:05--> 00:21:14

And that's why you know, the titles as well have to share. I mean, I remember when we were studying in northern Karachi, I studied with a man in 99. Around that time.

00:21:15--> 00:21:47

9899 2000 he used to tell us that you know, when younger students in the second, third, fourth fifth year if they start calling you Mufti sob because get angry, tell them why you couldn't move to even till today, the scholars will move to some of my teachers. One of them was the mothership of money, half of the whole lot. He's actually the nephew of money, but he's about 60 years in age. Just five years ago, he got an official title Mufti, after 25 years of proper work in the dollar lift of Darren garage. Until now, who has a more learner with just

00:21:49--> 00:22:12

25 years under the guidance of the name of the raffia with money, that's when you get the title. This is the town we're living in. There's just just, there's bankruptcy in knowledge when it comes to knowledge. You know, the ones who are really you know, the ones who are not Mufti like me and have these titles. And it's just, it's very sad. So Happy anniversary, somebody said to him, yeah, floppy

00:22:13--> 00:22:20

or floppy. So he looked at him. He said, Our Hello. But have you ever seen a puppy that you call him a puppy?

00:22:21--> 00:22:26

Have you ever seen a puppy before? He took out the nyssma I'm not a puppy. So

00:22:28--> 00:22:34

this is why this was something that the owner of the subcontinent really focused on, off the top of his money, Shahada, Islam.

00:22:36--> 00:22:45

Allah and what he mentioned in one of the books, he said that, you know, when we were students, and this was like, when we were towards the end of our years when we were studying nearly becoming highly.

00:22:46--> 00:23:03

When we used to be at home, his father was the Grand Mufti of Pakistan with Tisha Rahim Allah, people used to phone him. He said, we used to pick up the phone and listen to the question and related to our father, our father never even used to rely on what on our listening to the question, he will take the phone and then listen again himself and then respond.

00:23:04--> 00:23:32

And then he said, After that, when he after a few years, when he became a bit sort of sort of satisfied, then he said, Okay, tell me what the question is, and then he would respond, and then they will relate it. He said, one day somebody asked was a simple collaboration. So he said to me, he said to himself, Father, why bother him? In his simple Iraq's done, so he told the person? Yes, the love is done. So when his father came back from upstairs, he said, Yes. And his phone came and I told him, he said, the father looked at me, he said, You give the right answer, but never ever do that.

00:23:34--> 00:23:48

Never ever do that again. And then he said, since that date, we had a lesson. We will never do that after they told us that in a small, small questions, his his question just answered them yourselves. He said, even though we never used to do because we know that in the beginning, the therapy of his father,

00:23:50--> 00:23:56

you know, considering yourself to be someone who's not, you know, worthy. So

00:23:58--> 00:24:18

this was one of the very important sort of features of the Football Hall of the subcontinent that they would put a lot of emphasis on tarbiyah staying in the company, Sabra, this is not just a soul type of career. This is staying in the company of a qualified or a few qualified every single puppy that came

00:24:19--> 00:24:40

every single puppy or a Mufti of the subcontinent. They've had proper training, at least one or two or three, great fuqaha they spent 567 years even afterwards they carry on just you have to always keep in connection with the people above you. Um, one of the other number four was that they will

00:24:41--> 00:24:43

put a lot of emphasis on

00:24:45--> 00:25:00

having coming to conclusions in terms of not having personal opinions, but whenever there's a new especially when there are contemporary issues, new issues, important issues, then they would get together and a communal type of

00:25:00--> 00:25:43

Gathering would take place. So not everyone's individual that I think okay, this is the ruling I say this is how long this is how long this is. People would get together it would be done HDMI, you know it would be done HDMI. And that's what we have like for example right now we have in the Indian subcontinent we have measure multifocal Islamic, the Islamic Academy of India, we have the same one in Jeddah, Mufti Sheikh Mohammed sheffey Rahim Allah he assembled a modulus known as mejlis, tapit, Maasai Hydra in a contemporary issues. So and they would, you know, get together collectively, sort of come to conclusion and this is taken from Hades Satan or you know, Vitaly Brody Allahu anhu. He

00:25:43--> 00:25:47

wants us the messenger sallallahu wasallam Yasuda, la inessa levena Amara, Lisa

00:25:49--> 00:26:07

Muna. If we don't have explicit ameron a command and permission from you, what should we do? So the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, show you all fuqaha RBD consult the fuqaha and who are the worshipers who are righteous and is related by the moment agrani and it's considered to be sorry, number five,

00:26:09--> 00:26:22

was that they would really put emphasis on increasing the knowledge especially the foxhole, understanding the fic going deep. Okay, a lot of emphasis on this.

00:26:23--> 00:27:01

And for a student or for an RM for a graduate to carry to carry on studying, increasing his understanding of the Quran and Sunnah, increasing his taco. And there were certain like, we have stories like osita personality, for example, he the story about him that he's doing holiday times, he's telling the librarian to lock the door from outside and lock him up in the library for six, seven hours when he was 16 1718 years of age. And there are many, many examples like that. There's a there's a title, we say floppy, but there's another title known as floppy who knifes for people. knifes according to the terminology of the of the world is a person who after going through so much,

00:27:02--> 00:27:26

deep sort of relationship with faith and because of long digenova and experience, he becomes his nature becomes filled, his nature becomes filled. This happens in all sciences, you know, different even a doctor sometimes a doctor with so long sort of experience after a lengthy experience. It's like sometimes he doesn't need to really sort of return back to the books. There were some people like that.

00:27:27--> 00:27:28

Shell

00:27:29--> 00:27:47

and Russia and Kashmiri Imam and we're sure Kashmir is to say that from the subcontinent, we had Imam Rashida had gone go he was known as for people nuts, he used to say you know, Abilene is not popular enough, so was the famous Hanafi scholar from the, from Syria. And he said, No, no, Jean was probably

00:27:48--> 00:27:53

one of the great people like this was Mufti Hamlet Shafi shmoney, the father who

00:27:54--> 00:28:01

was known as puppy who loves some of you may have heard the name of Mr. Mohammed zygosity. Yeah, ever heard of him?

00:28:04--> 00:28:26

He called him the unwashed Kashmiri of Egypt. He was Hanafi. He once wrote a letter to Mufti Mohammed sheffey Rahim Allah and in that letter, you know, he wrote long titles he said either Hydra to Hina filler allama Muhammad Al, Al Muslim, Mohammed Shafi delden, the hospital etc, etc. And then after that he said waka tala to Morocco,

00:28:28--> 00:29:14

Morocco, your experience has become very long had a specter for p Hanif Sybil Magnus he, you have become 41 knifes in the true meaning of the word. That's you, you have the title for human lives. Forgiveness, meaning that your whole body your nature, your blood, you know is it's fake. Basically, you sleep fake, you eat, you drink, you don't need to refer to book sometimes your nature will tell you there's a story which I heard directly from Douglas Murray about his father, once they were great scholars, him his brother should be Nori and you know that, you know that assembly they used to gather to deliberate on and discuss Islamic new issues. So one day we sat for morning to

00:29:14--> 00:29:16

ourselves, there was a new issue that came up.

00:29:17--> 00:29:47

And we discussed discussed at parser. Everybody's and he said his father was the head of the maintenance. But that day his father couldn't come because he was ill. So he excused himself. He said, You guys do the discussion. at us of time. We all sort of came to conclusion. This is the first one this is a ruling. This is the verdict handler everyone. After I said I went to my father, he said we've all come to this conclusion. His father was in his you know, bread. He was quite sick. So what did you come to a conclusion? He said, we came to this conclusion. said no, no, it doesn't sound right. So why is it just doesn't sound right. I don't know. I don't I don't feel that's right.

00:29:47--> 00:29:59

You know, check again. So we've checked all the books with Dr. ashida. Dr. Moody. Well, he hasn't checked in so be naughty, topped out for half Pakistan at that time of Karachi. And he says no, no, I just I just don't feel right. It's just just doesn't feel right.

00:30:00--> 00:30:11

She said okay, we'll check next day next day they check again halfway through the day the whole madness is sitting the old deliberating books and books from the Quran and Hadith commentaries and all the books of the Hanafi Manor

00:30:12--> 00:30:13

something maybe his alien

00:30:15--> 00:30:46

but then he went to him again he said I just don't feel right you guys all want to gather and you know agree you signed but I won't sign so then they said there must be something wrong so then what they did was they said okay they decided that everyone go back home tonight and think on their own in the room tomorrow we'll come back when they came back next day they really found out they were understanding completely opposite to what they will come to a conclusion for two days despite selling the books and him on his bed is just nature told him that this was not arrived the conclusion right conclusion. This is what you call a puppy who knifes this happens in Hadith as

00:30:46--> 00:31:25

well. Some people just literally hearing a hadith they could tell if a hadith is Sahih Hadith is handsome if it says murder, and that's what they said in Nigeria to uncover in a hurry. tariku sometimes ahaadeeth has a light new, like the light of the day you can see it recognize it when someone's relating to it. We're in a real heavy volume and cobalamin Lady tunku sometimes someone relates a headache, you can see the darkness you can recognize this is not a Heidi. So anyway, this was something that they really focused on. And then also number next point is that they were very, very sort of motto there. They never used to. They used to be very firm on the stands, but they

00:31:25--> 00:31:34

never used to look down on people. They were very, very humble humility, but very firm. they would they would be firm but at the same time humble.

00:31:36--> 00:31:57

And there's incidents regarding this as well as panelists are just so many things. But you see, even when people have differences of opinion, they will do a gentle though a gentle, that doesn't mean they changed their opinions. They wouldn't stand for something which they consider to be incorrect. But they were gentle. They were gentle.

00:31:59--> 00:32:01

Once in in the presence of

00:32:02--> 00:32:19

chef Madonna Shepherd hungry Rahim Allah. Somebody said Amendola Han barelvi he said, Why did you say monana? He's a molana. Despite we have in many, many differences, calling a monana is an acronym safarnama Just imagine this is Hakeem on oma regarding whom this chef

00:32:20--> 00:32:48

de Haan What did you do? He said he's a coffee somebody called human capital will say Yo Yo, you and your daddy's car for as well. So hello, just imagine I mean, this is you know, this is something to recognize and realize the way there was fun. They wouldn't change their stance. They wouldn't change their stance, but they were they were gentle Mufti Mohammed shaffir Rahim Allah the father of money, he should always say to the scholars, big Don't be a sword. Be What? sink.

00:32:50--> 00:32:56

Don't be a sword on people. Be a silk you know why silk people touch you. You're soft, but nobody can break you.

00:32:57--> 00:33:34

They can't waver you won't move from your position. I am on the hook. I will stay but your soft. This is the balance to create the balance between the two shall Hindi Mona Mahmoud husband Deobandi Rahim, Allah once he went to a gathering, people said to give a talk. He said, Look, I'm not worthy of giving a talk. There's orlimar here, how can I speak? People insisted you have to share you have to speak out. He said, Okay. If I make any mistakes, please tell me I don't know anything. This is shorthand, you know, the one of the greatest scholars of the Deobandi Allah. So he started his talk and instead of helping Usher upon him in alpha, when he read the Hadith, and he started translating,

00:33:35--> 00:33:38

he said, 140 is more difficult on a bid

00:33:40--> 00:33:50

on the shaytaan, then 1000s of worshippers. So somebody stood up, he said, monana said yes, wrong. Translation should do is not more difficult. More, it's more disliked.

00:33:52--> 00:34:22

First said, I told you before, I'm going to make mistakes. I'm not 100 I'm so sorry. First, he said no, he said you made a mistake. So he said, Sorry, sorry. You know, I must have made a mistake. You know, I told you, I told you don't tell me to give a talk. I'm not knowledgeable. Then he said yes. Okay, what's the correct meaning brother? So the brother told him, he gave a wrong meaning. So the chef said, No, no, no, that meaning is wrong. And then he told him the look, there's another Hadith and then he gave him an example explained to him and then he agreed that just what he was saying was right. In the beginning, he said, Sorry, I made a mistake. But when he said something wrong,

00:34:23--> 00:34:54

straightaway corrected him. This is the balance. Don't be a sword, be silk, people touch you. You have the Waldo you have humility, you have gentleness. But at the same time, you know that, you know that. This is why in war, the armory was made of what silk because you know, another sword would just slide it would slide on it. You weren't able to break it anyway, and there's just one or two other points as well, but I'm just going to put them all together. They used to be very particular about staying away from those kinds of issues that create

00:34:56--> 00:35:00

those issues that create fitna like for example,

00:35:00--> 00:35:27

People sometimes like to ask questions. What about our Imam of the masjid? He does this this this this this? He says whenever you get a question right that you know what you should do just say tell the mom to ask himself. It's not your job. Mufti Mohammed Sheffield, I'ma holla when people used to ask him questions where he would think people want to create fit tonight, it's not about omnisphere here theoretical type of questions about you know, how many people were in the grave? And and the number of people have asked for, you know,

00:35:28--> 00:35:54

how the rally Salatu was Salam? Is he alive or not, you know, these kind of theoretical questions. You know what he would say? Answer Bismillah? Answer midfirst Nene Islamic moderator, Kumara Jani, the messenger sallallahu Sallam says, from the goodness of a man's religion is to leave that which does not concern you. Things that will not be asked about on the Day of Judgment. People will live in a time right now that people like to debate and argue about these kind of issues. Somebody asked once we'll see Shakira hola

00:35:55--> 00:35:57

is a Z, Z

00:35:58--> 00:36:11

is the force upon which he said, I don't know about him, I'm worried about myself, I might not, you know, I don't know if I'll be forgiven or forget about him. So therefore, these kind of theoretical questions those that you know,

00:36:12--> 00:36:55

create fitna, they really avoided that they were very, very particular about that. And then also finally, last point, we they there's a lot of there is one innovative, innovative work where the scholars of the subcontinent they compiled or the answers question answers have been compiled over many large volumes and this you will not find anywhere even in the Arab world. This is a recent discovery of the last century. You know, like in even in Arabic, that's why I had some friends we know when we used to answer questions, some friends from the Arab world from Jordan elsewhere. They say to me that you're fortunate you can understand how many of your friends are serious where you

00:36:55--> 00:37:38

know what to do, because you can directly refer to these books which I normally do because we don't have that even in the Arabic language fatawa books. This you will not find maybe one or two, but literally volumes of books from the beginning from, you know, purity and tahara and salata and Zakat, and all the way to the end. Question and question and so with evidences with proofs, this is the contribution the greatest probably contribution of the murder murder for kaha of the Indian subcontinent. I have a whole list I actually wrote an article which is online somewhere on my website, but there's a whole list of books like for example, you have fatawa mahmoodi Media share,

00:37:38--> 00:38:04

Mufti mahmudul hasn't gone go here. Great. Who was the Mufti of 40 years of our own job and one of the great we managed to see him in 1996. We actually took the Joseph IDs from him studying in Durham Barry. This Mufti mahamudra hasn't gone going 20 volumes you find today his facts and his fatawa 20 volumes Amazing, amazing collection in double fatawa Chef molana

00:38:05--> 00:38:53

amazing six volumes you have a single photo of the rasheeda ddrb six double eight volumes. I can't talk about these I'm just listing them because I'm ending in one minute. Each one requires like three four minutes but you know you have a tower imea 810 volumes we have endeavored 15 with the hammer Shakira hola we have to move to speaking five to 10 volumes for tower halevi one volume shalida Hassan Quran we have hydro fatawa which was from her mother is in Pakistan for volume so far you have also what else did I mention in that in that shadow money the same one who wrote allow soon these are in full volumes. Some are in a more intense 112 volumes collection of q&a. And finally,

00:38:53--> 00:39:06

well before I say the finally everyone's household every household has this is not really q&a but I cannot end this you know without mentioning bearish deserver heavenly ornaments of hakimullah Masha

00:39:07--> 00:39:40

Allah and before I do the final final one we have hotels money, you know further of money for the off money is the fatawa of our respected guests who's coming today share details for the whole three volumes have come out I asked him on Thursday, about the fourth he said forth, more or less debt will be released very very soon in a few weeks time and inshallah more more as well. I mean, there's so much to say but I'm going to invest on this because my time stops at four o'clock we need to stick to time because we have great speakers much better than me. And you know they need to speak as well as listening