Muslim Public Announcement on Prayers to Police and Muslim Community in SC
Channel: Mohammed Hijab
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim. So basically, we wanted to make a statement about the the prayer in speaker's corner and these things. What we've done is we've deliberated. And we've consulted over a lot of the like, let's say elders and seniors and people of knowledge. And we have come with a policy conclusion as to how we're going to deal with basically this whole idea of praying and congregation and all these things, which now the police have reminded us about, which are part of the policies of the Royal parks. So pause and realize that the Royal parks is a charity, which is owned by the crown. And now that the police since I think 2004, have been the the enforcers of the
Royal parks. And if you look into the regulations of the Royal parks, it says that it's not permissible for any religious group to congregate and pray. So that doesn't discriminate in any way against any particular religion. It speaks generally about all religion. And the reasoning it gives it says that, because it's a public, the public harm is more than the public benefit. So what we have to do, after discussing it with the people, this is what we've come to.
First and foremost, one important distinction is that it talks about congregational prayer, and not individual prayer. So if you look at the regulations in the rural parks, it says that you're not allowed to congregate for religious purposes, ie worship. So that's congregational prayer, and not individual prayer. So if anyone is in the war parks according to my knowledge until I'm corrected, and who wants to pray individually, whether they be male or female, whether it be Muslim, or Muslim, and they want to pray individually, there should be no restriction to do that. So if anyone wants to pray individually in speaker's corner aside speaker's corner, on the grass on the anywhere, that's
individually that can be done according to the regulations. However, praying in congregation, here is a problem because the regulations are put in place for a reason. And as Muslims, we have to be respectful of that, especially considering that we have available resources elsewhere, especially around the area. So what we want to do is want to publicly declare that we want to be in line with the police policy, or sorry, the rule Park policy of no congregation in speaker's corner, and that, from our level, we're not going to try and go against the regulation, because this is not from the Islamic spirit. In fact, one of the Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam which is
mentioned in Timothy, is when he talks about six or seven things which you're not places you're not allowed to pray, and one of the places are three. So the place of where people walk, and of the people to do shall have this hadith or explanation of this hadith. They say, the reason why we don't do it in this place is because it causes hassle for other people. So as Muslims, we don't want to cause hassle for Muslims or other non Muslims. Yeah, because, as you guys know, you should know that our religion is not a religion, which is attempting to make things harder for people, generally speaking, however. And this is where we say, however, right? If you look at the policies, or the
regulations, it also says that this has to be enforced of all religions, and not one specific religion. And if you're not, it's not going to be allowed for one religion, it must not be allowed for all religions. Now, we have noticed that there are some African people that are of Christian background, that come round and congregate, and that they play with the tambourines in a in a religious worship. And sometimes they have not been recommended by the police to stop or desist what they're doing. So what we want to say is that, to try and avoid this kind of discrimination, which we would consider exclusive vising, the Muslims in the treatment of reprimand, we have also put a
policy in place to protect our own interests as the Muslim community. Now this is called the three strike policy. Wait a minute, what's going on now? Yes, it's called the three strike policy. And
yes, so three is an odd number. The three strike policy works in the following way. We have a panel of Muslims of five Muslims known to the people of the park, most of them will be known to the people of the park and the names will be released maybe shortly after five is an odd number. So the decision always has to be made, there will be like a consultative process. And a decision always has to be made, if any evidence is produced to us as the Muslim community that the police is failing to reprimand other religious people from other faiths when they are worshiping in congregation. And that happens more than three times and there is good enough evidence, the panel of five Muslims will
decide whether that is something which necessitates a strike. If it happens three times, then we will go back to protesting in the form of praying in the corner. Why? Because we would say that in this case, the police is discriminating against the Muslims and they're not doing something which is in the in the interest of the wider community and in fact, they're exclusive lies in the Muslims in discriminatory actions. However, we don't hope we hope that this doesn't happen. We hope that the police doesn't go down that route because obviously there is an institutional
Racism attached to or stigma of institutional racism, already attached to the police officer Steven Lawrence and these things, especially the black community, and this will only hate exacerbate the already existing hate within minorities for the police. So this won't happen. I'm sure the police won't go down that route. So just to show that we are an independent autonomous community of people we will not tolerate also. Yeah, just as we will not tolerate Muslims. Yeah, we will advise Muslims, not to praying congregation, because that is against the regulation of the park. We also not tolerate a discrimination of Muslims in the park. And I don't think anyone from a democratic
perspective and Islamic perspective or Christian perspective or Jewish perspective or any other perspective, would be able to disagree with what we are saying, here. And now today. And this is what we have decided. I think that generally speaking,
as Muslims, we need to work on building bridges with other communities. But other communities also need to work on understanding and building bridges with Muslims. And this is this decision has been authorized by many of the senior people of from the Muslim community of speaker's corner. And you don't have anything to add to that. One thing I just wanted to point out is I'm not sure you covered all of it is that we have in the park hate preachers, yeah, very clear call hate preachers. And when you need to understand something brothers and sisters is that when this is being enforced, it's not being enforced, because a policy regulation in the pocket is being violated. While life's not that
be very clear that this was not done. Because there was a policy that was being violated. It wasn't the reason it's been done. And let me tell you guys, I wonder about the Subarus verse seven, even though it kind of correlates with it. Alessandra says in the Quran, and we were watching what they were doing with the believers, they punished them for nothing, but what they believed in Allah, the Almighty Worthy of all praise. So I was talking about here
with a polytheist, and what they were doing to the believing men and the belief of woman. Now, I'm not saying to you this was going today, and they're persecuting us. No, I just want to notify you guys, that this is a step towards that. Because you know, why? is because of the hatred that they have towards us Muslims. Why? Because we pray to you. Yeah, we pray that we do not harm anybody, we will make sure the brothers will make sure that we're not blocking paths. So the only reason and this is the lady who started this was a lady who I spoke to first when Tommy Robinson came, she took a Baking Oven, like a vampire. Garlic here, and he goes, Oh, yeah, she took a bacon out like that
making means something to us. Bacon and eat it. No one's got problem with that. So the problem here is this. When you look at the Muslims in in history, they live side by side with the Christians and the Jews. They have their churches, their prayer, whatever they want to do. No problem. And we are supposed to be the ones that accused on stopping you go here to enforce your religion or other people shove it down their throat. Look at the hypocrisy that's happening today. Be both be harsh and remain people. Yeah. Be that lady. The only reason they stopped us from preying on lies because of that, because you know, the police had no problem. The police even though it's in the policy,
they have no problem. Because you can see in the video when that lady speaking, the officer was speaking to his higher up. And I said he's more prominent than pre. But when they bought the policy into place, they did not do it because of violation of the policy. I'll repeat again, the only reason that one lie above and sisters, they hate us. And I will mention Nazi Germany again, you know why? Because believe me, Hitler did not come and say, kill the Jews. Because nobody would have done it. You know what happened? It was a gradual dehumanization of the Jews. It was a starting point. They had banners, and they had posters of Jews with big noses and evil looking creatures. And that's
exactly what's happening to us today. And eventually, if we don't stand up to it, and talk and we obey by the law of the land, the police officer spoke to Steve, the tour guide. amazing guy, he came he reasoned with us, we talked with him, we know they're doing their job, we don't blame them. But just know we have to stand up and talk to this. And that's about it for me. Yeah. So just to kind of reiterate.
Thank you very much, and you're Christian. Okay. So what we're saying just to reiterate the point here, the point is, what we've put in place is a three strike policy. If we see a group of Christians or Jews or Sikhs or whatever, congregating in a religious worship type congregation, what has to happen is that that evidence will be presented to the panel of five people, they will judge whether that is a transgression of the police over the police have an acceptable excuse. If that happens three times, we will no longer comply by the regulation because no one is because we are being exclusive eyes in, in treatment. And that is, of course, a step towards the Nuremberg laws
that you were referring to. One last thing, guys, and this is the last thing we're gonna say is that, look at that as interesting. You're saying this because just recently, two, three weeks ago, there was this whole pallava about freedom of speech. And no one here is talking about freedom of religious expression. It's really, really interesting because why not talk about freedom of religious expression. Now we have put we've started a petition, which you guys can charlo put it in the description boxes of these particular channels. We have control over
To change the regulation, because that's the best way of doing it for and to secure it for future against future generations, to change the regulation to allow for congregation I would recommend to the policymakers, by the way, that there is an upper limit, because you can imagine him being in prayers that like he can't imagine three to 4000 people that could be problematic. Make an upper limit of a congregational prayer, for example, 10 1520, wherever you want, but don't disallow people in a place where it's meant to be freedom of speech and expression, to express themselves in whichever way whichever way possible, which doesn't harm anyone else, which is in accordance with
the with the harm principle and liberalism in general. I just want to finish off with those who kind of stopped us from doing this. Don't think that you've you've done nothing, you know what you've done, because we can have conversation further down. And every step we take towards us allies reward for us. So to be honest, tofik, you've done something, the only reason we're mentioning this is because we know your hatred is going to grow. And we just want to put a stop to it.
Any questions? Yeah, go ahead.
If you pray, if you pray individually, you're not even breaking the regulation in congregation?
They're not gonna arrest you.
They're not gonna lock you up. Yeah. So the consequences, as far as I know, there are no particular consequences, you know?
The main point.
But the main thing is here, that the Muslims unify upon one particular policy and the Islamic unity is greater than the congregation in one particular areas.
I'll respect and respect. So this is like, making a public What are my Christian friends? Like? What was the point I agreed with us on? And like,
what was you know, what was what you were saying about Nazi Germany? And then there seems to be this kind of agenda that's going on in the media, which is gradually demonizing Muslims, I pick up on that, I can see that. There is hate preachers who push that narrative.
I don't want to go there. But the two things I would say is, I agree with what you said about happening by stealth. They're gradually demonizing Muslims and associating all Muslims with terrorism. And I think that's totally wrong. As a white English Christian person who was born and brought up you
know, and also, this is supposed to be a haven of freedom of speech, and liberty of conscience, and freedom of religion. Now, when I came here, I prayed, I just stopped by the fence. Then I prayed, I wasn't disturbing anyone. Nobody was bothered. I didn't, I wasn't troubling anybody. And you know, and then I came in here and, you know, when listening to various speakers, and if Muslims have to pray, specifically five times a day, so that obviously if it reaches that point of the day, and they're here all day, they're gonna have to go somewhere in pray. So we just should just let him Chris Muslim spray we believe in as a Christian doesn't disturb you in any way. Not in the
slightest. You know why this is disturbing, because he doesn't have hate in his heart. It's simple. If you don't like something, you're gonna use any excuse to use it. So that's the difference between him and those people. He doesn't have hate. Yeah.
Thank you, my friend. Very good contribution. Anyways, guys, any other last questions? Any other last questions? No. Okay.
That's it. Thank you very much.