Mh Podcast #3 – Preservation of Qur’an- Ust Abdul Rahman Hassan

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Salam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh and welcome to the third podcast here with Dr. Manhattan. How are you?

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Who's been in the UAE?

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Research and Education is doing that. And

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Michelle, I've been instructor for a very long time is known online. Before we get started, I think this is a good place to start with the podcast. I mean, you you've been involved in many kinds of educational programs, teaching and learning for for some years. How would you advise a beginner student of knowledge

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under the law Hello, Bill, I mean, the whole 100% within our jameela Chateau La ilaha illallah wa salli ala Sayyidina. Muhammad salvati who are early he was Harvey, but who no longer standing either yo Medina Melba, the path to knowledge is very deep. And the scholars they say it's a battle NASA Hello. It's an ocean that doesn't have a shore. So you're going to spend the rest of your life learning.

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Once you take this path, you will never feel like you've learned enough rather the more you learn, the more it becomes clear to you that you don't know. And every time you read the Quran, you remember the ayah Woolfolk aku, Lydia in haleem that every knowledge that you may have accumulated and gathered Allah subhanaw taala is more knowledgeable than you and knows more.

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And when the scholars define me They say that is a de la Khushi alumna who it is rock and Gemma, it is to know something as it is with certainty.

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So as to perceive something as it is with certainty. So

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the knowledge that

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really a person should give a lot of time to is a MOOC or an was sooner than E learning the speech of Allah subhanho wa Taala and the tradition of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. I mean those are the two which our salvation and our prosperity is connected to. Allah subhana wa tada he says, in the header Quran add it up one more you bashira momineen Allah de Marana Sahaja

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Allah subhanaw taala he says in the huddle or on a de la de Aqua moon. Well you bet she wrote me when she wrote me in la de la Marina sorry hockey and Ella home agilon kaviraj vinylidene Allah una bella Karachi occidental Hamada, when other than a Lima so this Koran guides to the best of affairs. It saves you from many destruction and many pain and it also guides you when others feel misguided and when people are in darknesses if you have this score and you feel joy, recently Kadima shot me, he says, and he's a manual watch with Terry Phil karate Saba. He says that we're about to find Herbalife in Akita boo fudger he'd be ridden with habila be either a coup De De De De De De De De

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Bella Akari Olmo de yukawa Mr. Lu Kullu, Trudy Holly moody Hanwha, Mo Killa, one more taba among indica method, like in until he says we're in a way Nikita Bala he otaku shaffir in while the novena in well hidden waterfall data Waheguru jellis elumelu ha de su who without a doubt do we as wp chermoula hyphal photography guru Mikey mineral Gabriella husana machalilla so the Quran I say that it's the best thing a person gets tied to focuses on reads, ponders on and also the Sunnah of the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa sallam now

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what resources books would you recommend for that?

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I mean, what in what regard? So if someone wants to get started now as being a student of knowledge, they want to start like reading the Quran, being able to read, being able to understand it, and being able to kind of acquaint themselves with the Sunnah of the Hadith. What kind of program would you I mean like yourself, if you had someone a student of yours, what kind of program would you give for them?

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The Quran in terms of learning it divided in divided into two in terms of learning it's both its pronunciation and articulation. Yeah, and also learning in terms of its meaning. So I would encourage the person to read books like Photoshop file in order to perfect that read. And until in terms of the meaning go to like tuxedo Makati tuxedo generally, these cooktops in terms of Tafseer it gives a person understanding.

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As for the Hadith of the Prophet, the Hadith are divided also into a handy to have like under

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to recommend Boomerang and also q2 which are German, like the other side of hain and

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a lower margin FEMA Takashi Shahar

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and these two in your in their heads will definitely, definitely benefit benefit the student knowledge now.

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Have you been doing any particular research? Now I know you're in the UAE now

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you're engaged in a lot of, you know, research extra degrees. So what what kind of research you've been doing?

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Right now, there's a lot of sciences, I always open up when it comes to researches. I look into our research. If you're in this side of the world, generally, you look into things related to Islamic Finance and things like that. But there was a research that was ongoing for me for a while now, which is a little more on. And aluminum per annum course, is a big science. It's

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you're talking about Tajweed you're talking about and what was Bob?

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and I were talking about animal care art.

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And so I I've been looking specifically at it looked at it a bit more.

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And tried to have a good understanding regarding it. Now. This is interesting, because the second podcasts I've done, which is the last one, we actually had a conversation about, about that. And some of you know, Western academics are actually a gang involved in

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crime if you like, but from Orientalism, we call an outsider's perspective. And I mean, standard discussions often cannot and are trickling down to Western academia. I'm not saying that our studies are so saturated as a industry vice is something which people are starting to talk about, are you aware of some of the kind of Western academic works on this.

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so in terms of when it comes to studying at science, the the path which is very popular Musleh the correct way to do things, and I always encourage students of knowledge to do is, first of all, learn what is for you before you think about observing what is against you. Because a lot of harm comes from that you start gaining gout speculations, so equip yourself for what is a hurdle for you rather than first looking at what is against you. So Alhamdulillah a great portion of, of my research, I've been looking at the color of the ruler of any slum, what they've said, grounding myself with their understanding and their the writings and Alhamdulillah then I stepped forward in looking at the shoe

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had the doubts, and the word shubha if you look at it in Arabic, it's actually means to make something look like something. So it's basically making the truth.

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Look, sorry, the false would look like the truth is actually not true. But it's, you're you're you're trying to make it look like it's the it's the truth. So I have done I've read some whether it be orientalist or whether it be people claimed to be Muslims, with their works and what they've said.

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But what I really want to say inshallah, to Allah is the research that you know, a true sincere Muslim will always come back to is to know that the Quran is mirroring the lie that this person is from Allah subhanho wa Taala and the master source in which the Quran comes from is Allah subhanho wa Taala Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran, are no less than zero or below Allah mean, nevertheless. I mean, Allah Calvi currituck una manera de NaVi listen in Arabi movie, Allah mentions that the Quran has been sent down from Allah subhana wa tada and it was sent down to the Prophet Allah Allah cinema through GB. Also Allah subhana wa tada he says to the Prophet, were my own people

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and in our in who are Illa What are you how do you be the one who taught him to the Quran, came to the Prophet sallallahu cinema, through the prophets, through GB.

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So the Quran came from a larger agenda to the Prophet through God. Also Allah subhanho wa Taala he says what even not Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah don't Hakeem and Ali, that this Koran Mohammed, it has been given to given to you from the wise the most knowledgeable one is from Allah subhanho wa Taala. And the the doubts that have been opened regarding the Quran are not new, like even at the time of the Prophet Allah is and people try to

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speak about the Quran and say things about it. They said about the Huracan Alamo. inami olona in Nova Scotia, and it is Quran Mohammed humans are teaching you it. They said that to him.

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Also they said to him Mohammed

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Salah it was cinema when he read the Quran on them were either to try him is gonna be uniting Khalid Libyan ally or an activity or an invader Oba delu What am I gonna do but you don't mean to call NFC in India you have in a in a half an hour say

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hello shala Metallo to alicona Adra can be forgotten a bit more I mean COVID e fl attacted on this ayah they said to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Uh

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huh. And, you know, and he said to them, some Hollywood cinema that the changing of the Quran is is not something I can do. You know, I can't change it for my own self like this is again teaching us that the Quran is Allah, your Benny and it's a revelation in the La Jolla. When did it come? When the Quran first came down on Eli Mohammed Salah law it was cinema as best mentioned in Sahih Bukhari that he, he saw a lot in cinema he used to receive from it when GP would come to him and he would listen to him, you alumilite Translation and he would find hardship from it. Because the prophet SAW that it cinema wanted to memorize quickly. And so he would try he would move his lips in order to

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memorize and he was commanded to have it be sonically tarjolla be in the arena Giovanna either Jamaat VEDA Khurana who Federico Allah. If the Quran is recited on you Mohammed, just listen. We're going to pour it into your heart. So from this we really take an understanding which is this Quran is from Allah, even if Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam tried to change the Quran a letter a lot told us that he's going to destroy the him resort to some what taco well, Alibaba will have men who believe in Tanaka Tanaka and I mean,

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if Mohammed sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he tried to say something about halfway, one letter, Allah subhanho wa Taala he says, la min will watin destroy Mohammed who harm him

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for truck for trying to add or subtract from the Quran. What do you think it was narrated from Omar Abu kebab and jw 13 that they said al Qaeda to sue Netanyahu the hero and in a way de facto come out limb to

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Bob and say who between both said that the Quran is a student not taken one the early passes on to the one that comes after now you went from you went from a lot to the Prophet Muhammad and now you're going from Mohammed to the companions, the the companions and then look at Ramadan, the Allah and JW Tabitha both saying follow read the Quran come out link to Moo hoo the way it was taught to you. And it's showing us that the Quran is a naku it's submission transmission. Sorry. It's what is transmission it's passed on. It's not I like this way. So I'm going to read it that way. I did not read you know, his famous statement it to be true. Well, let me tell you trufa goofy to follow. Do

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not innovate in the recitation of the Quran. You've been sufficed. Also, I didn't have you thought even said something very powerful. He said in rasulillah, Morocco and takakura. Your Prophet Mohammed is commanding you to read the Quran come out, listen to the way it was taught you know, Jerry and Amira, Daniel, Hannah, Hola, Rama, Danny and these

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people might not know who he is, and why. both of whom are said to be image Laden.

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Which they are

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Alibaba revenue when I retire if I hope someone who

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does not believe it, there's gonna be a lot of people that are listening to this that

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it will just that is called the mahaki of this field.

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is Karen is considered to be a project in the science and Englishman

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these statements are considered to be a proof in the science Danny is a member of desert.

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And as we call it entertainment shamefully slamming in the sciences of Islam images at the shape of some of this science. Rahim Allah was around when he was around for the audience around the seventh to eighth century now. Okay, so he's so I'm gonna go

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and I'm gonna Dan is a scholar in which a man who shouted Rahim Allah He basically done another one of his Kitab etc. And so he did another month two of his books, it's not only for the audience, now that he made a poetry poetic form of his large book, shout to be as a couple headers with a manual which we can even call it server, which he took from the Kitab TC of alleman. Again, you will see two individuals are heavy

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Wait authorities in this field of preservation and recitation. recitation of the Quran? Yeah. And Abubakar back in Ronnie, who also wrote about alinta, Sol, and ashari. Just to the reason why I mentioned this is because it's to show you that this issue has nothing to do with a particular group. It's actually an it's an idea. And it's also a belief that Muslims have agreed on it's all over. So this issue touches this issue that I'm mentioning that the Quran is not preserved. It touches anybody who is a Muslim who believes in Allah the Day of Judgment, whether you're a Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki, whether you're a

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Muslim. Whether you are any other group in Islam

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other than America zero.

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They believe

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Yeah, but there is this concept there there's a discussion with them on

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some issues, even as preservation of the core and there's discussion with them on some issues. We shouldn't generalize the old for them, but reality mama shot me yo Rahim Allah is filled with a manual which we can he said something very powerful. He said when Maliki is in fill karate Mahalo for do not mfe Rama Taka filler. He says that in the killer art, there is nothing which is he had is no independent reasoning in karate, and it's all taken from the Prophet Allah and asuna Matata, it's a so before we get a because this might get a little people listening he I just wanna make sure that you're following what you're saying. Bit by bit, right. So in the beginning, what you're showing was

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that there's a possibility that you can see the ability that the Prophet Muhammad wa sallam could say something other than that, which Allah transmitted to him based on the Quranic text.

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And then you showed, okay, so the companions, their understanding was that there's no way that they could recite, okay, something or transmit this use the word transmit something as Koran. Yeah. Which is other than that, which the Prophet transmitted to the police officer on Yeah, with me so far. Yeah. So now you're on the stage where you're trying to show that the authorities the Islamic authorities will also have the same opinion. So you've mentioned Josie and Danny, that's, that's where you are. Right? Correct. Correct. Correct. Okay. And this concept of the Quran being preserved is something a lot promised us that he's going to take it upon himself to protect the Quran, Allah

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says in the Quran, in naturalism that the clock will never hold a half alone. And this is the distinct unique thing Allah gave to Omar, Omar Mohammed over the other nations, the other previous nations, a lack of adequate Allah He tells us that there were losses of panatela what Rabbani you know well about the master filmmaker, tabula, Coronavirus, Shahada, and in the previous nations, their rabbis and their monks, it was a responsibility on them to protect their books. And they were told to take care of your book. And what do they do the Christians and the Jews? What do they do you have a funeral Kelly Memorial Day, they started to tamper around with it and change it in order in

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accordance to their own whims and desires. As for Alma, to Mohammed, allow, as they were della, what did you do? He said that I am the one who's going to take it upon myself to protect it and Allah subhanho wa Taala is protected from that time till now. Our missing Daddy,

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our missing jolly salatu salam,

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the people he came to with the Quran

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they questioned the Quran. And

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they doubted the Quran from the messenger Alia salatu salam. But with that said the Prophet was still commanded to convey the message first, Allah told his

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first da ba Ba, Ma, mushy King, Mohammed go forward convey your message and ignore the polytheists and the Christian the disbelievers ignore them and he you've got the truth with you. These people have a preconceived notion they have a belief if you come with anything they're not willing to take it that's what I'm I told them the profit sometimes we can start that they wouldn't take the message, sell a lot even sell them out. And a lot of adequate Allah He said to him, we're in kind of Kabbalah

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for any stop and Tibet turbidity and I'm fed out of the ocean lymphedema effect it on big water Khadija

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Allah, Allah He says, what you can do if these peoples turning away from Islam has become heavy on you Mohammed can a couple of them in this topic and territory and ethical fit out of the old cinema FISA if at the IEA

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if you want Mohammed to take a ladder to go up to the sky and to bring them the guidance, which you won't do, certainly

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Leave it to us were the ones that were going to guide who we want, and we're going to leave the one we weren't misguided. What I'm trying to get from there is.

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So what I'm trying to get from there is that there are always going to be people who are going to question the authority of the Koran, or whether the Quran is preserved. We cannot convince every single body because of the nature of some people. It's not that advocate for a while. And since you want to, I mean, clearly now. And one of the arguments that Muslims use with non Muslims for the truth of Islam, and for the truth on the Prophet, Mohammed, Salah, if not, one of the main arguments is that we have it preserved book, whereas Christians, Jews, their traditions have not been preserved, that the Old Testament is not preserved,

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that the New Testament is not preserved. So the first question is how you've kind of gone about showing us the Quran, how it's

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that the Prophet should couldn't have taken it from

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said something from him. Also, that the Sahaba couldn't have said something No. So now the question, how would you go about explaining why there are differences in some readings? Because someone could argue, okay, that's fine. But there's a lot of variants, you know, you have some variant readings like Malik and Malik, you have these variants like you can be born yesterday, born December today, you know, all of these are various readings, which actually do have an impact on the the meaning. So if it's meant to be one text, which is unchangeable, and how comes we have these variants uniform. Now we go to an issue called the karate of the Quran that we have the various different types of

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recitation of the Quran. You see, these killer art that we have today, as I said, it's the Quran that we have.

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And the most prominent of those that are odd is the seven that I mentioned, will shortly be collected in his GitHub. His Will Amani which would tell me

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the seven that I mentioned

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when he said when he said is a little bit higher, it emitted Lennon Apollo GarageBand Rasul, Salah, firmino, Guru SOHCAHTOA Sadat sama Allah Well, at least overall Akuma easily 70 and then he goes through each and every one of those seven. The scholars in his lab, all unanimously agree that these seven are taken from Nebbiolo Mohammed who took from GP from Allah Azza wa Jalla. I'm going to quickly go through the name. Now before before we continue what you're saying is that all of the various readings, or all of the various readings within the Islamic tradition within the Quran is not something which is additional to the text but it's explained through the prophet Mohammed

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sassanids interaction with a lion you're going to tell us what the seven seven

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so now we have a discussion of

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some ask any port forward regarding the issue of you know, the allow for Saba.

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I'm going to try to simplify a long ongoing, how would you translate into English?

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You're the expert, you tell me what's the best translation maybe modes? I don't know. So it's probably best to keep it as is. I like I like to leave it as it is done then explain it for people. Yeah. Now let me explain. Let me explain something. The, the, the seven out of

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it's a laugh amongst the scholars what is actually meant by let me actually go through the Hadith of the postmodern cinema, where he it's sort of it sort of speaks about the seven out of the profits of lottery. selama

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he said in a hadith

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that the Quran was sent down in seven hours kulu ha schaffen caffeine all of them are what? sufficient and all of them are enough sufficing and enough and curing.

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In another rewire when the Prophet allottee sermon argument happened between his Sham

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Hakeem and honorable hombre de Amanita Allah and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he told both of them in the head of Kwanzaa, Allah subhana wa Coronavirus Mateus. I mean, I want to mention a benefit here. But even though the sub the sub out of was wakawaka, from the messenger Allah salatu salam Omar didn't know one, and he didn't know one, which the scholars take from the Ottawa Toluca, Diablo Coleman, Coleman.

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Important that something can be a motivating one

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Land not in another land. Because this debunks on this story here just to kind of I think it's a very important story just to kind of break it down. So all you're saying is that our local pub was praying, and Shang Hakeem was praying. And they were reciting Susan from Khan. And

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pub in this generation in the room here, who's listening to the show, listening, saying some things which are slightly different from what he had been taught.

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And so wanted to see is Shannon, Hakeem, you want to grab him? You know, because of he thought that he was distorting the Quran or something like this. After the prayer, finished, he took him to the Prophet Muhammad Salah Salaam. And then he said, he said, You read, you read your way of reciting Susan for Kant, Chapter 25, of Iran. So he read it. And then he said, You read and then he read it, right? And then the Prophet, he affirmed that both of them

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are correct readings. They're both true readings. They're both something which was revealed together, and as well as our own zero. Yeah, so I had this is the way I kind of came down it like this. And so what you're saying here, just sort of sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, is you're saying the Quran initially has a multi

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formal basis? In other words, there are some words not all words, the storyline remained the same, the narrative remains the same. But there are some select words, which will be revealed in slightly vary meanings. And that's not despite the text. That's because of the Amazon seller making black to Allah. And then subsequently, Allah revealing certain words in varied ways, but they will you say they all point in the same direction, and they're all from him. And one other compliment was this is this great? Is this what Yeah, Correct. Correct. Correct. Yeah. So they all complement one another. And by the way, this topic of

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a hell of a sub. It's not a topic I can really talk about in details in this podcast, because I'm just gonna mention lsvt teeny little house. I'm just gonna give some examples of the scholars who have written books. I remember we read Kazmir Ceylon, who died in 224. He Julian he has a keytab on the artificer Ba

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ba ba hemolysis Kitab on it. I will father lot was he has a GitHub on abou Sharma democracy has a key cap on it. And imagine that he has a GitHub on Sheikh Mohammed bucket and it has a Kitab on it. And the from the velocity, Dr. Abdul Aziz Ansari who's army political and Kilimanjaro, Samia Medina, Tijuana, what up? He has written a book on it, and and has some Leah dealerrater. mean, we're talking about 1000s of pages recording this whole discussion. All you say this is no secret. This is not something we're trying to hide all that someone is, that has been something we've just spoken about open for 1000s of years.

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It's so true.

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And not, not to mention, scholars have mentioned when they came to this Hadees if they didn't understand it properly, and if they didn't know what it meant. They didn't lie and say well this is what it means. For example and remember God Rahim Allah, He said what as if to struggle ahead and hurry to * up he will know that I mean even with a Latina santa hat Tata, hello lamb, my goodness, Robin Sharma and he pondered over the Hadith, he tried to understand it and he brought out the definition and the meaning for it, or even even rejected the Roman law. Alina Michel kanuhura Lima, Geraldine Cod, he mentioned 40 views in regards to what it means. What I want to say is that

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these views, these views are divided into two. Now, neither views regarding the sub are are categorized into two. The first view is this will allow your attack to be views that we don't give any consideration to

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his presence is like his absence.

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You see, arguments from disbelieves Yeah, the second one is shallow to Allah is your attempt to be he we give it weight. And we say it has dededo feel Joomla generally it has evidences or should show party during the delivery kind of points that direct the directions in your head just to kind of once again consolidate for because a lot of viewers just want some reason. And because this is something that my experience they raskal

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what you're saying is that yes, in regards to the national which are the different ways we said slightly different ways in which some places have the vs will be transmitted, the exact meaning of that, how that materializes, how that is manifests in the text, what that exactly means this specific notion is something that there is disagreement upon among the scholars that we

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Don't hide that disagreement, there is a

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lot a chunk of that disagreement is not connected to the actual evidences, and it's just guesswork from non specialists. So it shouldn't be seen as

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counted as among the four, you know, prominent opinions. Is that what you're saying? Sorry, let me give an example of something that I tend to find with atheists. Sometimes when we talk about the issue of Voodoo to

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the existence of evil, sometimes, you see, some of the most we mentioned the existence of evil or evil being there. And then they jump to the existence of God from evil being there to the existence of God, Danny, if hypothetically, I say there is only evil, there is no good on this earth, everything is evil, that does not in any way, shape or form, conclude to the issue of whether God exists or not, the connection is far beyond what I say is the definition of the officer or what this call is a 40 views and more alipore is making it adding one extra view making it 41 views. Whichever of those views you take, however weak that view is, it doesn't in any way, shape, or form, have any

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effect on the preservation of the neuron.

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So what you're saying those views, that whatever view you have on what they have, is it going to make a difference, it's not going to have an impact, it's not going to have an impact on the fact that the Quran is itself preserved.

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So hey, so this opinion is, there's not much at stake here, this difference of opinion, is well,

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it's not true. There isn't. So a lot of the times people generally start to think oh, because it's not known what it means. Whichever view I take, in my affect me believing the Quran is preserved or not. And to be honest, I actually received an email from someone who actually did say that to me, or even asked me that question. So after explaining that to them, and giving them a bit more details, which is shallow to add, I want to say that I'm not trying to avoid answering this question of what the head office of Ireland and which view is strongest, but it's a it requires a more detailed

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session course in Charlotte, I'm going to be doing a ton of madressa already, inshallah Tada, where I'm going to bring all of the 40 something views, I'm going to present each view and what the argument is and what the evidence that they use, and then you shut them out and I'm going to show why this view was critiqued. Why this critique view was critiqued and inshallah to Allah then come to a conclusion, which we believe to be the closest to that being right inshallah, I just want to name some scholars who all said

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that the Quran preservation is by each Mariani, there's no difference of opinion, if I can just quickly name those scholars.

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So but we've I think we can move on from the issue of

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the fact that

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let's just do a quick summary once again on this. So to summarize, then, once again, if you want to add anything, just let me know if there's anything wrong, please. correct it, is. You're saying that, for example?

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He made the art to a lot of panels, that the Quran is revealed, in some slightly different ways to facilitate a sea of ease for the people.

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That was done. And then the Quran was revealed at an African survey. Yeah, and seven out of which the scholars disagree, the meaning of we can't say, okay, there's one opinion in Islam and everything is, however, there is this disagreement. But that disagreement, there's nothing at stake with it, because all we're talking about is the type of difference between the variations, we don't know exactly what the type of difference is. But we do know, there's some kind of variation. Like, if you look at the color art, you'll see that there's some kind of variation, the exact categorization and specific notion of what that categorization is, or that variation is, is not

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something scholars have united upon. Therefore, ever opinion you take from among the 40 opinions, so called opinions, which I mean, you agree that most of them are not my top five or more, so I'm not committed to the masala and if you take the weakest of those 14, the word weaken the weakest one, the one that has the most implications and consequences. Really, it's inconsequential, because it's not going to affect the fact that the Koran is transmitted in the way you've described in the beginning of the show is to to harbor entrance transmitted form. They went into it with his presentation, last, ultimately interesting, but they transmitted everything the way they heard it.

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And so there's nothing at stake with that. And one more thing, I think, is very important to outline with Apple for some of you run from it, is that there's a big misconception, you know, in some of the comparative religious work I do.

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We speak to Christians and Jews, whatever it is, yeah. And we say, look, our book is protected and it's preserved and yours clearly isn't.

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When we then asked to show why is it that your book is not protect protected, and ours is things we definitely put forward not number one is the chain of transmission. So we put forward the fact, as you've mentioned, that there is

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people, a multiplicity of people, and on the top level, transmitting that evidence, that same call on that same message to the next generation, and it keeps going like that. But there's a chain of narration, whereas with the Old Testament, in the New Testament, there's no chain of narration, such motion doesn't exist. And the second thing we say is that a lot of you know, apologists and Muslims don't add on that just just to add another point, which is that the man who hasn't met him online is GitHub ficil familiar with philomela white when he mentioned that this concept of early snack and chain is the has his horse, Mohammed and this is a unique thing that we have, we're all mature, it's

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mature enough snag

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some of the email more than they used to say, lonely isn't Abdullah parlementaire Masha?

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Allah parlementaire Masha, that is not is the religion and without it, you only the chain. And if without it, anybody would have claimed what they wanted now. So that's the first thing. And so the second thing is, is that the variance that exists within the Quranic discourse, they exist because of that of Subbu

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Subbu, they explained the variance. In fact, there was no

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the assumption was, there was a fixed text, that it should be read in one way. And then there was variants that were found that would be problematic. But in fact, one thing is the fact that somehow in that though, that is the explanatory mechanism to show why, in fact, there's variations between a camera and via camera and so on. And so it all goes back to the profit. So whether you read it medical Medina, the Owner of the Day of Judgment, or medical Medina, King of the Day of Judgment, both of that goes back to Mohammed and both that is legitimized by the prophet as the backing of the Quran, the backing of Allah, the backing of the Prophet. Yeah. And so is, is a very important thing

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from comparative religious perspective.

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The assumption with the four gospels is that it's a fixed text that doesn't, that's the essay, whereas the assumption with the Quranic discourse is that it's not a fixed text, it's a

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functional text, it has multiple different multivariant texts, it has different kinds of variants of each word, you know, so and so therefore, if the assumption was the same, then the standard could be the same as measurement. So if we find variance for the Bible, it's not the same as finding variants for the prime because I mean, various declines explained through this about I prefer summer whereas the Bible or summer equivalent.

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So I think it's very important that because it's not like for like it is what you're trying to communicate. The fact that the Prophet Mohammed Salim, he authenticated and authorized legitimize the camera of Sham hacking, and also Amro hopped up. And he said, both of them were revealed like that. In another Hadith, he actually asked Allah to facilitate ease for the Ummah by revealing certain words in certain different ways. That is, in fact, already telling us that this the systems are different. So now just to just to kind of wrap up on our for some, if somebody, instead of being a problem for us, there's a solution.

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Because in fact, with the with the Bible is a fixed text and you have various so how can you explain it to us, it's not a fixed text. However, having said that, even though it's not a fixed text, it all goes in one direction. So I think it's very important that we outline the fact that even those variants, I was like saying, blue and dark blue is going in the same exact direction. It's not like a narrative altering direction, yet. So that's, that's an important thing. And the third thing I want to say is that on or equal text criticism perspective, like the biblical discourse, there is no harmonizing method, which is very important. A Ghanian text criticism when they say, the Bible is

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saying, Okay, what verse should we put in what verse should we not put in? They don't have fast we have solid

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mobile or something is dying, there's not going to be ready

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for them, they don't have such thing.

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Have any harmonizing method?

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Russian equivalent, so we have a consonant skeleton, which is off many Lawson and then the text off many texts, and they don't have that. So it's important so far, that we're saying that these are the differences between our tradition and their tradition. It's not it's not a light for like comparison. So when they say well, you have a variance as well. So we'll we'll spend our various look at Well, how do you explain your variance

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That's it, I think close the door and add to it. Another thing I think that's generally detached from the discussion as well is that the nature of these people was completely hip. If people noticed, they were memorizes they memorize poetry by hearing it once on a moral basis would come to the Kaaba and stand and read his paper napkin music. Robin woman didn't basically Robin, and he would read it from memory.

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And people would memorize it, and they will transmit that to each other.

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book this book, so I really apologize. But this is Michael masala. Most of you seen his of his works. He's actually in a beautiful book on preservation answering some of the some of the mustaches in the orientalist. He's got this one the scrubs he's also got another one on preservation. So if anyone's

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thinking the other one even go further they can.

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They're really good most of us.

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Sir. Allah mentioned in the Quran, from beginner to official due diligence. Danny, the Quran is something that's in the chest. So memory memorization, from the beginning of Islam, it was something that was getting given a lot of consideration to I want to bring to the people's attention. It's not just even the issue of snap and transmission. I said, if you add the issue of memorization, and the issue of number, and it's not just, you know, in the process of transmitting this information or transmitting this recitation, he's actually passing it to a large quantity of people. Yeah, some lighter cinema. Maybe there's a large quantity of people which I want to leave everybody interested

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in is, I mean, how do you think our best an enemy is Alison Maharaja Filomena Medina Tijuana Ashleigh to lfv apostle alley cinema left in Ramadan from Medina. And it was only 10,000 people with his companions. He just wanted to leave Medina, with his companions, and 10,000 people followed him. So a lot Hollywood cinema. Now you can imagine these 10,000 people, they're gonna pray with him, mothership Asia and federal and I specifically mentioned three souls three souls these three

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Yeah, allowed. And so the processor was known to recite, for example, selective memory, he was able to size 60 verses or, I mean, I saw long souls would need memory very long. And so they hear the Quran from him, Allah salatu salam, and they memorize it from him for 23 years, 23 years Salatu was very, I mean, just a quarter of a century almost, I mean, people, we have to really consider that I mean, 23 years is not like a day or two or a week or a year. That's a long time for people to continuously being exposed to the same material.

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Now, what's mind boggling that really took me is that I came across a study

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last year, a couple years back when I was reading it, carried by nasaka. He made he mentioned some that really took me back. I've yet to find

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a book that is collected by my second interview. Yeah, so it's more of a history history history book, more history book. Yeah, exactly. I will cost him. I'll even has an attacker. He mentioned something very powerful, very powerful, he said, and I will repeat, I will redo ly Muslim economic shamin. He said Cali Abu Dhabi, Lalanne

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Abu Dhabi.

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Muslim election, he said that Abu Dhabi said to him, this I will read in the companion of Buddha commanded me to do something, you know what he told told him to do? He said, Dude, man, yokkao, Indira cow, the students who are present who are listening to my Koran, I'm teaching them things.

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So I will remain Muslim Ivanovic Sherman, he said, I stood up to count the students abroad that were taking the Quran from him. And then he said, I counted and I reached for either to elephant Was it me it when a given 1600 and something.

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It's just a 1600. You know, who was in that gathering?

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Even though I remember Alisha, one of the qura summer we take, he was sitting in that gathering, taking the Quran from him. So you have to understand that even though the Senate is not a hadiya by himself, when you look at it, he's got 1599 students that are taking the Quran with him.

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This is a really good piece of information. And at this point, what I think we need to clarify is the difference between a kilo and a half. So the kiloton, some of the 10 or seven kilowatt are different weights by consensus to the seven apples that we refer to

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do you know why people actually do that mistake and they actually confuse the two you know, why not even that, I think, in the beginning, whatever the Mujahid when he doesn't say that

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he made it

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That action of making it into seven was where the issue came from. Ronnie if if he did what a local, local,

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local wounded local who made it eight, if he just made it eight or seven or six, eight people wouldn't have confused it. But the reason why so this is really important, because I think a lot of people have this misconception. The piano, why is it that this is a very important question here? Because people are completely confused on this one. Why is the pillar different from the half? Now? Let me give you my short answer, and can you expand on it and correct it if it needs to crush correction? The short answer is because the current who is the reciter, whether it's seven or 10, or 20, or 1000, it doesn't matter how many there are, is simply listening to the turbine, his teacher,

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and he's listening to how he's reciting the Quran, he might have listened to it for more than one shift. And he's choosing the color of his choosing. I will call it his choosing either I'm going to put Malik or Malik, I'm going to recite, because you can't recite in two different ways you can only recite one way one time. So he's using Okay, so there is a choice that is made by the pilot, the car is choosing to either recite Malik, which means owner or King Melek steer the car. Now this choice is limited to the available options, all of which have been legitimized by perfomance lasala, all of which are motivated as well. And all of which are motivated, which have a perfect senate of multiple

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multiplicity of people, a plethora of individuals at each stage. So he's making a choice, yes, the car is making a choice. I'm going to say either medical, you can't say American Medical the same time the prayer is choosing either I'm gonna say medic, which means Oh, no, I'm gonna say King. And that choice that he's making is limited by the available options. This example of Melaka Malik of the 10th killer is that Jesse mentioned in his national and, you know, six of them recite as medic, as King and four of them recite as Malik. So in that of 10, people Aurora, there had a decision to make either gonna recite to as medic, which is legit, or we're gonna recite it as Malik, which is

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also legit. Four of them made one decision to resign as owner, and six made another decision to resign as King, but both of those on a complimentary contrasting tree so they don't contradict each other. And they both have

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the prophetic backing the oboe masala and authorize the stamp of approval process and they want to just kuramoto So, therefore, the difference between the carrot or Kira and the half is that the color is choosing the very legitimate variant, he's choosing which variant to go with, there is a choice to be made. Now, we can't make a choice like the Quran made, because it's already been standardized and for has been the formula has been late and is round karats there have been lots so many times. But in in theory, I mean, if something in theory, if someone wanted to mix the pillar art and they pray in their own homes, I read him just that he said the spine. I mean, it's not. It's

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not identical hip is another

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idea because someone will say, Okay, why not mix but it's not a problem. It's not an issue for us, that the point I'm making is that all of it is Quran, all of legitimate, all of it goes back to the mountains and all of it is authentic. Yes, there was a decision that the caller had to make, but it was limited by the available options. Therefore the available 100 free options there was there and the car car mechanic he chose something which was limited and had.

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Would you agree with that and is anything

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is correct. For the Quran, someone to read medical summary is a piece of theology. Let me mention some of the Imams who mentioned the preservation of the Quran to be motivated at the moment. nawawi Rahim Allah an Imam Abu sir at blue bin. Remember, Dean a new NYU has an early use of our TCU Mr. safaga see you an email a worker in Arabi to deliberate Tamia and remember to Regina zarca cittadina suki what do you do? I was lucky even though Amira Alhaji della Regina Swati, she had with Dr. Ahmed Al Banda. And Amanda has a normal Halloween family joining

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a jet. A theater De Lima Yan jumps to dinner Jerry and Ibis and when she's alone, Sheree, see these imams all have said once they looked at the Quran they said that this is mutawatir maybe a man I mean

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Be fair in our transmission anomaly, Jerry needs a discussion. The call of Alabama Jerry is to Allah, the one he says in Ukraine and the one he says in his national, but as our inshallah to Allah promised that in my course that I will be doing, I will shout out to Allah, we'll be tackling

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this point of there's two questions to be asked. One question is held yesterday and to add to

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what is and in order for it to be sat here does it have to be? And the other question is, is that these questions are not the same. For example, those are for color to be correct and sound does it need to have to add to each drop? That's what he was discussing. Some say sure. I started to show whatever. And some say no, but the question of isn't total torture I've not seen as like some people say this and some people say that it's not enough he does mention in his favor to national which is a poetry of his national. He says for kulu ma foccacia nahi What can I get was nasty Melania hurry what's the How is Nathan who are Khurana Heidi heatilator to our panel hi to my local activity to do

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the hula hoop piece of it. So he up

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then when he says For example, yes sir hi Snyder so this Miss Ella of immunogenicity Rahim Allah and also I will show metal Naka DC and their kelab.

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inshallah Allah I really want to go in details regarding it, because I have a research on that this is very important just to translate what you said. Because it's important,

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if you just tell us you mentioned is probably the foremost authority on this matter in the last 1000 years. But let me let me just say something sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry to interrupt your military interrupting. There's two things that immunogenicity Rahim Allah has in his national emergency Rahim Allah does not know how to reset the robot or Bobby Lee the transmission

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has to be authentic. Yes, it does. It does not.

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And the robots are reliable, etc, etc. And in his GitHub, and he mentioned shahara the image GitHub

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has to be very popular, popular now. Yeah, it is. In he added another condition which is terracotta.

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Ah, ma has to accept it with acceptance. So something which is widespread, why it's not so as to mention two things. Three things have to be said. Yeah, sure. Translate peace. happiness, love means authentically transmitted. Yeah. The second thing he's mentioned that his famous popular

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delicato. The oma unanimously in agreement regarding it.

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So this is that the rest of you

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is the triangulating method. Because the triangulating method that it doesn't he mentioned it was it has to be in line with the roster of many with the Continental a little structure of double click script, it has to that chain of narration which is authentic, and it also has to have to be in line with the Arabic language. So with the with the Arabic language, and these three conditions must be met in order for it to be and that are which is a recipe for it to be read in the prayer and to be referred to as we refer to as prime. There's not a lot of people now because let me tell you, let me play devil's advocate because I think we'll be bouncing from each other but tell you some of the

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things that people have been saying. Someone says okay, well, fine, that's no problem. But we've seen that it must hold and if not bears and oh baby cab and lots of us have many of them. Yeah, they have this is a politician will have to and this is the kind of thing we'll hear from missionaries and educated folk, they'll say look,

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how could it be the case if this is what the Quran is, so, the Quran is that which corresponds with that triangulating method

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then you have some of the carrot of ignore best all of them even the most old or this person will have in common and they differ in the consonant to structure not just in camera, may tomato who received what the what the actual content and structure can contain. But they differ from the Continental skeletal structure from that which is mentioned the Quran so how can you square that circle in the sense that you're saying that the prize will tell you you're saying that the Quran is a voracious, you're saying it's robust, you're saying is transmitted and is transmitted with all of these authorities? Then how is it that you have these apparation texts of even much older bears,

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which clearly are differentiated from the Continental skeletal structure, mathematic meta script, and let me add extra thing on there as well just to make even more, make the issue even more heavier on those people who say like, for example,

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Some add on to that I'd say look a bit administrated is the same guy that the law is. And I said the same Sahabi that the Prophet said somebody said, anyone who wants to meet somebody and comma karate,

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karate, even for most heavyweight, you know, yeah, especially it's

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not just that not just that not this fact is just an authority but the fact that the Prophet said no one wants to read the Quran, like the way it comes down the way the purity of the Quran, let him read it like a blood drive unscrewed, so somebody would like, You're telling me that some of his recitations being eliminated?

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I want to read like the

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absolute, let me break the answer shallow Tyler into it. My aim and objective is not really to go into the shoe has, because they deserve a entire course. And it is now just two or three that are very popular. Yeah, I didn't know. When the President said that he was referring to his pronounciation his articulation of the the tweet and the way he read it, but it wasn't referring to his mother the style of the Quran, he was reciting it was to read and his Muhammad, that's what the prophet was referring to, when he said, if you want to read the Koran, the way it came down, because the Prophet only had a blindness within a prayer, and he didn't hear his whole entire Koran, he only

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had a portion of it. So he's referring, he was referring just to the

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context, context, which makes it because of the fact that he was in the middle of the Salah, and they probably heard him praying. And then he looked LISTEN to His voice and he was amazed by it. And then he said, anyone who wants to read the Quran the way it came down and let me let him read in the rewire the Quran on the way of the language. The second part, which is the art of some of the companions,

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like I didn't mince words, when he recited the goal of Allah subhanho wa Taala charedim otavi it with Italia tea added on to it. These are carrot which

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was something which

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was from the Prophet the Prophet recited it like that. But the most half of Earth man, it chose this the reason why Earth man's objective was to compile the Quran was not the goal of abubaker this is where many people get confused. aboubaker was no Java the Java is to bring the whole Quran together. Lacking Earth man's reasoning of bringing the Quran together was the issue of the healer that was told to him that the Muslim

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people were preparing their readings over the other people's readings. And which we're not saying that somewhere out were wrong because he shouldn't be blocking her. But they at least had the Prophet with them. They at least had a prophet is telling who's right from wrong. But

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he authenticates.

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Yeah, anyway, so today, but there might come a time when there is there is no one who has knowledge enough to know. So this man chose to resolve this whole situation by bringing a must have that brings and unites everyone on to this. So every other visitation that the Sahaba has had. This was the final conclusion. This is the only one that the oma unanimously in agreement. This was all agreed upon it. Even Finally, Abdullah took this out of your mouth Thailand, Danny, as authority as man's most most half

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of an adult. It was taken from the messenger Ali salatu salam. It was a recitation, I was taken from it. But it wasn't added to the

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people say, Well hold on a minute. So you'll say why should we follow what Othman has ordered anyway? Could we put?

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It was an HMR?

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Yeah, when he did it, he wrote a committee, he gave it to everybody. And it became an agreement amongst everybody. That's number one. Number two depasquale. sama commanded, as he said, it can be sooner or sooner to qualify, he didn't even know it had been allotted.

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So we were instructed to follow up with Matt on the line.

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Because the other hand, he says four years isn't the definition it will be for two years. And if you add up all the four pillars, it's actually four years that you know, what a stiff was a was a was a 34 to a half and aluminum foil for four years and a half. And then so yeah. 10 years and six months, four years and a half, it means 11 months. Well, that's all that's 40 years, what you're saying is that the Prophet gave us instructions to follow the qualified Russia Dean, the and so off man's decision is religiously authoritative. And add to that, in fact, he had the edge mount dogma as well. He had the his mother's, including him Assad, including all of these people who had very good

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ideas, not to say that their colors became invalid. But it's to say that this was the standard reading, is that then transmitted it you could say for convenience purposes.

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Wasn't the fact that even the sounds and color has now become null and void.

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But we can say that that sort of man like fan, his standardization is that which the oma has agreed upon and we are sure that that whatever that is, we are sure, yeah. Whereas else the setup could be distorted, the chain could be distorted.

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The resin is not in compliance, which means that it could be go back to some kind of it could be tough See, and I mean, even even just that he says, I read this, in, in his Bibles a mesh of that actually massage, a lot of this stuff is very difficult to differentiate sometimes between what he's actually saying and reciting his Koran, and

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some of the differences. So to avoid all of that confusion, of man offene, kata Shakyamuni, again, he made sure that anything that goes into this was half is going to be that which is the most authoritative, the most legitimate, that everyone agrees goes back to the profiler not to say that all of the other

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companions were wrong to recite the way they did, or to do the things they did. That's true. And at the end of the day, what we as Muslims always have to remember is

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the non Muslims, because they became they got exposed for their religion and their script becoming, you know, contradicting and not being preserved. They now want to point fingers at other people and say, Oh, you guys, no one is not preserved. That's the truth.

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And Al Hamdulillah, the fact that the Muslims today, see Ramadan Torah, we have been read by a 14 year old, 15 year old 20 year old leading Kilauea all over the world, people reading from memory. And this is, I think, enough to show how this book has been preserved.

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Living tradition is something which is it's not something which is packed up in books, and it's a very cliche when you say that, if you throw all the books in the world, how quickly will retrieve the Quran, compared to others? It's very true as well, isn't it? It's true, it's true. It's true. And if I were just to throw in a couple of words, now not to cause any damage to people, but just some of the most kind of wired widely circulating things,

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misconceptions that on this on this mission, so we talked about, just to summarize, so far, we talked about how it's impossible for the prophet to have said something which is not from Allah, and how the companions is impossible for them to have said something which is not from the Prophet, and everything, all the various readings, and go back to Prophet Mohammed Salim and legitimize by him. And the fact that everything therefore from a line goes back to the last point of this idea. And we'll set Yeah, we also said that the misconception that's meant to be a fixed text is one which has led to a lot of confusion. And what this is, and all these are variants, we know that there are

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variants but those variants playing through the summer, there are seven modes, whatever it is types of reputation reservations, which are mentioning specific verses, where you can recite this verse like this and sound like that. It's a concession, a sealant, almost something to ease and facilitate from oma seraphs is some kind of thing which helps people to Muslim. Now there is a difference we said between the host and the Quran, we said that are the types of differences and the karate try to call it so it's possible that you can have

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1000 a million karate, it's not a problem because all it is is a combination of choices made from the available pool of differences which are all its maximum from masala and mathematically you can have so many of those no problem. The point is that all of those characters, all of those recitations are so here how authentic and we were saying with a letter which are mass transmitted.

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In addition to being in line with the last month many this skinny little coincidental structure of the manner in

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which there was a mount on the oma and also the fact. So this is this is the narrative we're putting forward and this can't be compared we said with with Christianity where there's a fixed text and variants and there's not even a senate and there's not even transmission. I mean, how can they How can someone even compare the two I don't think even Western studies comparison, I don't think it will make that comparison. Even in western Yeah, even the third century in Islam has grown even more so our and I've read Cosmos Salaam and Hotamisligil standing and I'm a demon or debater Kofi Annan called is married mythical Maliki, you know, without further material poverty. And all of these, I'm

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talking about third and fourth century scholars in Islam. They all straight away that Annie Harun was an hour he died 200 I know before 200

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so he documented all the karate more than seven

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rate customisation lamb came often with idea 224 million and he took directly from 1100 30 sorry, you see, and he compiled all the characters.

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It was, it wasn't just memorized. It was documented at a very early stage and in different rock their names who they took from, it was documented. And if you actually go to an email address Hubby, for example, remember that you know him. In that regard. He had 1000 teachers.

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Remember Jerry mentioned that 1000 in relena, who taught him he took knowledge from the Koran and the sciences he took from them, and he learned from them. So and here's the kicker Cotabato. It talks about the different results if you go to any number Jerry, how many? How many Messiah he has any took from them. You will see this issue is it's not one or two, three are beautiful. I know brother right now he's got 200 teachers, they took the whole arm from

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the desert is now alive. So this issue of the preservation of the Quran, Allah subhanho wa Taala took it upon himself. He is going to protect it from Hannah with IRA cannot these non Muslims and these orientalist and these Christian apologists and all of them cannot socrata normally you Hina Hello, hello, hello, how are you? If you're just gonna, you're hitting, you're hitting your head against the mountain. Don't be nice to the mountain, you're just gonna hurt your head. That's why this religion is gonna stand. You know these people you have to understand a hate. last shot alone feeling out of the water declared officer shot and alongside all the while at the Columbia center.

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They are not mentioned in the summer in good. And in this world they have. They have no authority. I mean, we Muslims, I sincerely say this to the Muslims who are listening. We've become foreigners from our own religion. And when we've become foreigners, and we've taken a step back, it leaves that vacuum for non Muslims to come and start to tell you about your religion. I've told this story so many times. But when I was studying in the UK, I was studying at Birkbeck University. I was studying linguistics. I used to go to the British Library. And I sometimes used to take from their manuscripts. Yeah, some books and manuscripts, Islamic manuscripts over there. I take from I was

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taken back when I went there one time and I met a non Muslim guy. And he asked I came to the race and I was looking for some of them are totally written by Sarah Dina burqini. So Dean McCain has to get up

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and walk alone, and which is about omokoroa. But I was looking for some some some of his other works. And other scholars I was looking at for the works. And luckily, when I got there, he corrected me. He said to me, it's not suited to dealing routinely rather than sarojini boo pain. I was the first time I ever heard it. And you're not a Muslim. You're English, UK dude, telling you that this is how it's pronounced. And we had a back and forth discussion. And I was really taken aback that so Pamela, you know, we've distanced ourselves from learning the religion and also the deen. So what I say is that deema told me the first thing that came down in Islam, the first element

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that came down in Islam was reading

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is read and go and read and a lack of adequate Allah He praised us. Humans are raised as humans based on that knowledge of knowing. Adam alayhis salaam was risen from all of the other creation, for what reason and they prostrate it to him. For what reason? While an MLS markkula that a lot taught him to had with Tyler, you have 11 Idina, amico Valentin, oh, my God, I get a lot raises a person, the way they learn, and they study. So

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will I look at the opera, the Shu heart of the non Muslims, Islam, I sit down, I actually tried to give them a chance. Okay, what do you have to say? And when you look at it, there should have Oh, honey Baker uncomplete ly used Meanwhile, you can even draw, when you look at it, and you really do in another and you observe it, you don't find much to it. But the only thing they have is the ability to articulate properly with previous articulation. Isn't this smashing your head against the mountain? Yeah. So it's nothing, when you look at is nothing substantial. That's, that's actually there. There's an example I came across that I was having a discussion with one of the non Muslims

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about the origin been going against Arabic language. The fact that it goes against the Arabic language, and he bought the idea for me, cannot

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imusa yet, Rahim Allah he read the ayah yo yo necesito Bakula de la comida de wahala caminhada Weber semi automatic geralyn Katina wanniassa. What law lady Tessa Luna de Waal or ham is what we read it as, like an Hamza. He reads it as well as me as a customer, right?

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And this is Ella nomadic in his and he talks about it well to have it in the middle of the lezama Cogito ala later in the lesson and it

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was better when not only one method is better but Ellen known very well in grammar which I don't want to go in I'm gonna explain that in shallow Tyler in my course Yanni what takes me back is that they will even study a mess Allah in grammar just to prove the Quran being wrong and but not really understanding in deep and have a very good understanding you know why they don't have it because they don't have a you know, when you studied grammar you don't just rip a page out of a book. I think this is the you have to read it from beginning to end and understand how is one of those sciences where you have to have a very deep understanding from

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qalamoun often filled with water with some with a lot of warfare in Omaha from delamanid. From that beginning to the last Miss Ella, it's all connected. It's building upon on each other. So hamdulillah

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Islam inshallah, to Allah it's scripture that are on and the sooner the sooner has been protected by its people, the sooner to Navy in sunny la malerkotla cavani. Well in America first Takara Isla De La Jolla, Seattle, Maria de

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Bulli, the Sienna and the Toba holding fitted Well, obviously it can be seen to be stolen for karma indeed, it can even be hypnotic dealing with nostril oma for many years or sahami Mustafa has suffered from trauma. I'm Brian bark when they told him that there's a heartbeat which are mobile. They said to Uncle embolic there's fabricated heads. And then he said your issue that has to have been the jet scholars are going to live for that job into the big beasts like Andromeda madeon hamedan Hamblen is happening right here. Hacking mallozzi, abuser Atlassian and emammal Buhari, and they're gonna live with your issue as you have been on

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the other day, I was reading the life of Abdullah Mubarak, and I came across Abdullah and Barak saying, Lola I'm certain if it wasn't for five men that talk to tiara I would have left and working and doing my tea Jada and my training or my business. Five men for their sake, I am working I want to provide for these five men. Who are they

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Sophia named Danny Sophia Anatolian Sophia even arena. I worked for them he pleased to pay for them. And

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it was a Mac I keep forgetting who the fifth one is, Danny, these five? I work for them or else I would have left my job. Why does he work for them? He doesn't want them to take no money from no government. They're free men, they they sit in their house, they work for them, they get their risk. They don't worry about that. And they're able to defend the religion which gives us a great incentive to do the same thing with all of these brothers and great causes not doing not working. And so there's a there's a

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person there.

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Yeah, so today cuz I have to be honest, but the point is that he just wanted the related to be defended by those great scholars and inshallah to Allah. One thing I took from Shekar Santini statement really touched me. He said he da de la hora de Carmen, may you argue for your Heckle Huckabee kalavati. So my

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motto is I know, if Allah wants to inshallah, to Allah make his religion stand about America, Allah wants this religion to prevail. He actually sometimes does it in a way where he being somebody who speaks against the religion, he's doing wrong things about the religion, and then food that Allah makes a pastor stand up and refute him and debunk his arguments. And

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that's beautiful. And I think it's a beautiful place to start this, this podcast. But I tell you something, for those who are really sincere, and heard you present all of those scholarly evidences, and break it down, there's nothing to hide, but nothing in our scholarly works, that we're trying to keep hidden away.

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There's nothing that there's no great secret anywhere, and everyone's works are available, everything is more. Nowadays, nothing can be hidden. And the truth is also what the truth is also available. And this is something we call non Muslims that are listening to this to the truth of Islam, the hack of Islam, which is to believe in lay of the land Mohammed has a lot to do in the Quran, the final message to your message humankind, to believe this. This is the unaltered speech, the vine verbatim speech of our last panel data which has been preserved by the miners in a way that no book in the medieval period or no book in antiquity, or no book in ancient history has ever been

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preserved. In a way the book is continually living now. It's, it's an analysis in our hearts, it's an art. It's on our tongues. It's, as you said, in our prayers, quite literally in our prayers. So it's, you know, it's funny

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Just let go back to articulation, trying to attack this is like smashing your head against a mountain. That's true. You know what happened I was reading in the IR in Surah sola to America. Well, it was sad it was sad about the fact already on my desert, the mecca Savannah cat, I mean a lot

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of the American gripe, he said, I recycled this idea. When I recited the idea, he said, I recited it as the ending of the I will not have a full line.

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And a Bedouin man said, repeat that again. And he repeated it. And he said, qalam woman whose speech is this? And then he said, it's the speech of Allah of the American equivalent is lost, marry the great man locally.

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Then he said to him, who speeches this, he said, it's a lot. He said, Well, it is not speech of Allah. The Bedouin man said

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at the American Enterprise last summer a straightaway understood that he did something wrong. he recited the idea as well as his own hacking. Then he said, That's correct. then ultimately said to the man, did you finish the Quran? Are you you know, the Quran? The Bedouin man said, No, I don't know the plan.

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He said, How do you know that it wasn't one hour for him. And then he said, the SIOP and the context doesn't allow that.

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Johnny, why mean is that if the Prophet sallallaahu Cinema came with the Koran, and it was something that didn't make sense to the atoms of that time, they would have demolished a prophet sallallahu sallam, they would have insulted him, they would have ridiculed him, but they realize what he came with was merges. And after the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam had died because they couldn't respond to it. The quality said yeah, and maybe you want to build it from Solomon which cannot be Hakeem and right I'm sorry, me, I have to call them are called meta to that you begin to look at the profits before the miracles they came with, died with them anymore says miracle died with him. The

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other prophets that miracles die with them. He says miracle went with him, because he was not dead, when with him, but maybe will lie. Mohammed is the only prophet who is miracle still standing.

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It's still amongst us, we're looking at it. We're challenging people, not on an absolute miracle, like, within the miracle is that here challenging if you can.

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So it's going to forever inshallah to Allah be preserved, Allah is going to preserve this religion. And one last question, I think we should go back to the variants and love that you mentioned, that reminded me of something now, for I am with you as a question someone else. Okay, so you've got all these variants, you've got the seven out of

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which other ways in which the multi form ways that we can explain the variance is not a fixed x? We understand that now. But how can we assure This is the question, how can we assure that the variance will not the product of the Sahaba? themselves? How can we assure this or the qura? Or the ruins? Or anybody who has dealt with the for Android? How do you How can you be sure that in fact that those variants are not as a result? Because the sheer number of them? They would argue, even though, frankly, it's not that as many as they make out to be? How can you assure that those variants are, in fact, not from,

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from this hub of Nakamura from the Word of God, whoever is dealing with this thing that that's the this is where the issue goes back to the concept of collateral. A lot of meanings is the halo tawakkol allocated? The definition of tomato means these people cannot agree on this is too large number. And we say the processor has 120,000 companions on it. Yes, the hero tomato, that they all agree that this is because there's a beggar who comes once to the plus side cinema. And then he goes, he never comes back again. When they all agreed upon it was the breadwinner, as well. And when he comes back, and he says, specify the question, just specify the question. I think what they will

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say is that, actually, once again, when pushed back here,

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is that

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you don't get off that How'd you know that? That wasn't something which they both agreed on. They just put in themselves that it was a variant that was not from the original message of Amazon, generally speaking, you won't find a TA or I've come across Sakura was only going to be a blemish at all. It's going to be other peoples that are because these are the only people are going to be mentioned. There's a difference between these mentioned and who stated because right now, Ibrahim and Naka he was against that concept of st Cara to fool and he hated that. Because this problem came from people saying they don't like it because they say awesome. Dude is one person. This is the

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problem that has a tribution to one person does it mean only one person read it?

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Like this, there's

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a turnip daddy daddy. Very good. And and secondarily so I would say here. That's number one. Number two is what I was thinking about this interrogation, I was thinking about it quite deeply. And so when you think of it, you got the financial option. Let's take that as an example. But the 10 multivitamin cannot that everyone is agreed upon.

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Normal practically, yeah. Except for some of the so called volatile that this group of aggregate

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those crops, the lion's share, like the vast majority of meanings are exactly the same. So if you read cannot

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Hassan Aslan versus was never just to give two popular examples. Yeah, the all the storylines will be the same, there'll be no in translational sense difference in translation for 98% of the of the content, maybe 99%. In fact, where there is a difference in translation will be in things which are very similar, like blue and dark blue, or I don't know, things which are very, very similar to that but to Tobago, or a

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habit, there's a point is very important to understand a lot about it with an affiliated a balloon or an autocannon. Indeed, at law, you know, what they do fi t laugh and kitty law. Enough means there's two types, you're very well aware of that it's the law to telework, but if telephoto bond

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if the scale of the differences can be brought together, that's not the discussion here. We've never claimed that we've claimed there's no contradiction.

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You guys have to prove to us that the Quran contradicts itself if there is a manner here and is a man of God in other words

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what a charlatan again inshallah environmentalist already Of course, I'm going to expand on some of the where it is mentioned in the crowd, like for example, TGT 220 min Tatiana, this is the idea.

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This zyada One of the benefits in it is that I get 20 reward by reading the Quran that says me Tatiana, by the man the moon and the Quran that doesn't have it has less because of the famous Hadith

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nim heartful when I can elephant harpoon when I'm gonna have to watch out for so tivity tapped out and whoever reads it. And the one who reads as God mean Tatiana, the one who reads as mean Tatiana is got 20 extra reward than you do. One of the benefits that you get from the trot and Amanda thing I thought was Oh, just to add to this as as a means of

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as a means of demolishing this idea in fact, yeah. If you find if you look at some of the constructions, some of the lexical constructions, like for example, Malik and Malik, we said that you can recite medic, medic, swords and fighter hallak this Malik is king. Sorry, medic is on medic is king, right? But as soon as you learn us, it's Malik. There's no difference.

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If the Sahaba were playing around as they wished, and they should have made that medical medical, it's not just that even that they set off a sham and Sham when he recites Abraham and Ibrahim Yes. The word Ibrahim in the Quran has come 99 times.

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Okay, the largest times he does Abraham, Bill elephant and some other readers Ibrahim, why is

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it is not the idea of I'm gonna read it as I want it now I'm always told a camera of

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I can't remember the Michelle Obama was given

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Fira and then he said I'm not going to read it like that. And then they said to you but if somebody came to you and told you I heard it from the Prophet he said I would never take it from them. He said because I tell him I suspect one person but that Cara was actually motivated for some other email but to ignore amarin because it wasn't motivated never reached him in motivated he rejected it

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especially when we're talking about the concept of choosing cannot dismiss LRP I really have prepared for it I have a long Mashallah written research on different scales

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evenly like him it's gonna it's gonna be really shows that research inshallah. inshallah tada

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Yeah, when is it coming up?

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inshallah, this week, we're gonna release the video inshallah this week we're gonna release the rest of your research writing the writing. I've actually nearly nearly 600 pages so inshallah Allah some of the I have left in the UK. I don't have all of it. And some I have it here that I've added on to it. So inshallah Allah once it's finished, and I've got it all written. Every time you find something new to be honest, every day you'll find something new that you didn't see. So I'm just trying to add on to that. Some of the other stuff

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Do a builder activity or Bar Harbor do did did he that either has fella shelter he said so I'm just gonna hope from Allah subhana wa tada that he aids me with it and he allows me to be able to fully do it in Telangana. Again.

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Like allocated for

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me too shallow to Allah humbly prove the Quranic preservation and how it's that every Muslim around the world has to be shalom to Allah, happy or content that their religion is being preserved is a great Imam. Abdul Allah, you know, the great amount of Makati. He was he said about the previous emails that came before him. He said urashima Hola.

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mermin. He said, la he said, Man, he said man nanofilm and mobile in la cabeza clean fuseli 91. Man Hello Freeman mobile. What are we compared to those great images that came before us? Like a mushroom? Is like under a tree? You know, a little mushroom? under a tree? Yeah, I mean, when you look at Alabama, I'm I'm gonna Danny, you look shocked me. I was. Did you actually know our customers shocked me. The manual to attorney. It was actually said can have to love your drone and Moscato Buhari. He, he was blind, you know that.

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He was blind. The students will come and they read third party and he's blind. He sits there and they correct their copies from his memory.

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Danny, he read on him and he says copy is wrong corrected.

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Are you there? And so what I mean is that when you look at these enums the way they were the way

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they live is and you look at these orientalists and what type of people they are, honey, it's not even fair. It's not fair in any way, shape or form to even mentioned, I will cost him a shot to do

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in the context of union any orientalist. You have to go back to his words anyway. I mean, what are you referencing?

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And also,

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what I say is that the karate is a science that stems from the knowing the Arabic language and audio to each man, for example, Khadija Dishman of the Quran is nomadic when he speaks about it, and he says, what sort of a wishman he says walk soon. I wish, I wish, I wish him fat as to Latino, Ella, I enunwa, Mangia. kabu to me, like, it will narrow the issue of ish ma'am. And the way that it's read. It's not something that's known in now it's taken from where it's taken from karate, like they complement one another. So, these Orientals are not masters in the Arabic language.

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They are not less to be in a hurry in your localizada who were can easily be in a poorer variable. They are foreigners from the Arabic language. We Muslims have to have thicker in our emails, like Ebro Malik when he wrote elfia even though he believes his LP is the best is a Khalid Mohammed Abu Abu Maliki amadora, Bella Hara, Maliki masala and lnav in most of our area Mr. Medina Shara was there in Lafayette elfia mikaze dinner will be on Maria to caribou ox, our beloved emergency jersey, whatever so to be more jazzy what dr. D read on the radio. It attend and Fiona Murphy well who the subject isn't of Lita was toji within a year jemena microtube is better than the fear of Illuminati

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is saying that, but it will not is better better than me because he came before me. I'm taking from him. I honor him because if he's a self to me, and

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shows the love he has for his scholars that came when they didn't gentlemen, bargain, your coonara What do you mean and Edina sabak wanna be a man?

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Shelton is just a little bit hierarchy in meten letter knockaloe or an admin herself Sarah, may Allah reward the great scholars who transmitted this plan for us. So it's not a time where we doubt our humans and we question them and we put them down over wahoo a non Muslim and orientalist who doesn't know much about the religion and even if we gave him the chance to hear him out.

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doesn't have much to be found when alone there was a lot of them every one of them on the same to be honest. This is how I some of them were very, very competent. Very. Some of them like a firm. They're essentially correct themselves. I mean, I'm mentioning names now Nicholas I'ma he done a great job in dispelling the myths of poor Casanova who came before him. He said that the Quran came in a century

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and they said, No, this is not correct. And if medic recession seven centuries actually, or the Samak narrative is correct, they corrected the other orientalist

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Because of the manuscript and the palimpsest, and all of these things, and 95, radio cover accuracy and all that stuff, so, to be fair, it's kind of like, okay, a lot of Orientalism, 100 years ago, you said x. And now you're saying Why? You've come to the Islamic narrative after 100 years of toil. We've only been saying this for 1400 years. And the thing is, because to be honest with you, like I'll be honest,

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Quranic studies in the West is not a massive field, there's not like 1000s of people involved in it, probably the big names. But that's not just the, in the, it's not just the West. Like, if you look at Zachary, in his GitHub bohan, when he spoke about, for example, to see, he said, it's a moon

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It's like a science that hasn't been nurtured. And it hasn't even really been read yet. So even if you look at the early scholars, they kind of rooted that a little more Koran is a site that hasn't been fully given. Like a lot of example,

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the only thing we would have to say is that maybe because now the thing we have to deal with in academia, is the new manuscripts and radiocarbon dating things which did not exist and we still have to combat it within the spheres of academia.

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You see what I mean? We're not trying to say that okay, just to get these guys. We still have to refute them. We agree with them. We disagree. We have to we have to, we have to.

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We have to refute them. But no, we have to refute them and of course, we'll have to Heineken is for everybody. Anyone here would have to run a

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Muslim or non Muslim bring evidences forward. But example I was trying to study the Kitab affiliate site by a Lehman shot to get a whole lot

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I struggled to find anyone who can actually go through with me this cab and explain to me this key tab in vehicles and it was subjected to Rossmann massage, and I struggled to find it it's not even a it's not even a big like book. It's just small 200 something lines of poetry is rare to find. Today, if you look at the people, the scholars who are grounded in a normal Quran and have an understanding of it

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that's why the orientalist are going that direction they find it as a place where they could

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easily do for Sharia or

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so it was kind of

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open is honorable prime there's not that many people's real specialist especially in that let's be frank in the Western world is not any one who can say oh, this is the guy we can't we don't actually so this is the overclocking guide we don't have that we have to say in accordance to our knowledge. We don't everybody in the West. So we say according to our knowledge, we don't see a lot of people are at the forefront when it comes to aroma.

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Yeah, well that specializes in it. Right.

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So unless unless leaving us a little bit open, so we have to be open about that. So you know Yeah, it's true. And orientalist, we can't wait for another 10 years before they get strong enough to be able to to deal with us. Some may say more than knowledge we do it reduces the more that they don't start saying more things. When inshallah Allah as I said at the landmark sets equal alphabeta we always think of this oma they're always going to be a people who are going to stand up for for the deen and that's going to revive the religion for the people there's always going to be people inshallah

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has been a great show you're always welcome to come and I think many people would have really benefited from this exposition

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and shallow Tyler Callahan and again for having me there's a lot of things that I felt I wanted to speak about but I left it because of it not being the most sensible place to speak about it is not my place. I am going to go through it all in great detail the only bit in details in Charlotte Allah for any student of knowledge, whether even if they have a ulterior motive they have you know, their belief and they don't want to if you're looking for something to to use, even watch it, I will present to you the arguments for us. inshallah, Allah YouTube inshallah, to Allah is the madrasa to Maria YouTube channel inshallah. huhtala is going to be there. It's free, you don't have to pay

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Penny inshallah tada

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Chateau La la la la stone felucca, what do we like?