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Tackling Islamophobia

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Karim Abuzaid

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Huda Tonight Dec 6th 2015

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Salam Alaikum and welcome to segment three of the program. Thank you for continuing to be with us. We hope that our discussion will be beneficial to you in your lives as Muslims inshallah.

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We want to continue as we promised, so talking about the challenges of Islamophobia that Muslims particularly in the West are facing, we are joined by shake, cutting Abizaid, shake Kareem, thank you so much for being with us. Just like a lokalen You're welcome. It's my pleasure. I'm under attack

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and being attacked by by by flies hamdulillah hamdulillah. All right. Shake. Thank you so much for being with us is a very important and very timely discussion. At this moment, Muslims are facing a wave of hostilities, even violence, Muslims have been killed in various parts of the Muslim ummah.

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And

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there's a backlash. People are angry. There's a lot of ignorance that motivates people who are non Muslims against Muslims. Can you please talk to us about Islamophobia.

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Talk to us about what this means exactly. And how where did it come from? Where does it originate?

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Alhamdulillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah Chateau La ilaha illallah wa sallahu luxury Fela shadow ana Muhammadan

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rasul Allah.

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Muslims are a community of believers and

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supposedly, inshallah and one of the tenants of Eman one of the pillars of faith is to believe in the divine destiny, that everything that unfolds has been known by Allah subhanho wa Taala already, Allah subhanaw taala recorded it in the preserve tablet and Allah subhanho wa Taala willed it to take place. And actually Allah subhanaw taala created us to execute it.

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This is a man will cover will cover all whether you believe in Divine destiny.

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And we know for a fact that Allah subhanaw taala and never permits

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I would like to use the term pure evil to occur.

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A las panatela may permit

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purposeful evil,

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to take place for a wisdom that he turns it around to be good.

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So in spite of what we see, and in spite of what is happening, a believer must always have that optimistic look that there is Yeah, the situation is alarming and it's disturbing. But allies in control and things are happening for wisdom. And you must believe in it this way. You must really look this is where you find your comfort. But this is in no way should drive us away from discussing what Islamophobia is okay? And how to go about dealing with it. But again, if we exert the efforts and do our best, and yet it's still mounting and growing, you know, Alhamdulillah Katara, Lahore, Masha, Allah Subhana Allah has ordained and what he ordained came to pass. So shake if I can just

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clarify.

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What I hear you saying is that whatever the hardship, no matter how great or small life is a test? Absolutely. I think this is the missing component in dealing with calamities and trials that the oma is going through and everything happens for a purpose. You see, we need to understand this that you know we normally look at what's happening from the eyes have now the physical art yes of now. No timely now, but if we see it with the eyes of with the eyes of divine it's totally different. It's exactly like you know, Musa alayhis salam getting upset when he saw

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Aria Salaam digging that hole in the ship. You see most a judge the situation based on now, but they'll handle had some access to future you know, answer

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In knowledge, that listen, even though this may seem to be bad to you, but the overall turn out of the situation will be good. These people who've given us a free ride will keep the ship from being confiscated by the king. Likewise, the little boy he killed, a likewise that will he constructed

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is he, a lot of Hannah dollar wanted the Egyptians to hear the heat at the time of use,

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and use of had to come to Egypt. Now what happened, his brothers throw him in the will, if you just look at the scene of the will, this is very disturbing. Yeah. But if you look at the whole overall picture, at the end, what I'm trying to say is, at the end, all of this will sort out to be a beautiful thing that the Divine Wisdom has executed, and we just have to be patient. And I think this is important, because if we sit here for two hours, three hours talking about slama phobia, and what the Muslims are going through, you know, at the end of the day, we're gonna come out depressed. But if we really deal with our challenges from that perspective, and that's where faith, faith is

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there to console us, I think that's the word or gives us comfort with the situation. Islamophobia is a term that existed before 911. Okay.

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And I'm sure the viewers know of 911, that's 14 years ago, 14 years ago, existed before the emerging of so called dash or ISIS or Iser, whatever name they carry here. Islamophobia has been always there. Simply some groups in the West, consider Islam to be a threat to their established systems, financial systems,

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social systems, they see Islam that a replacement, they are mistaken in their judgments. But this is how they see it. They think that these people are coming from overseas overseas, to change our societies. And what allowed them that some native,

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born and grown up in their countries accepted the message. And the numbers are growing. Look at the Vatican, like, three, four months ago. I'm not sure if you heard about this or not. themselves, they said that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It's a fact. Yes. It's It's so it's growing and bandwidth with whatever you tell me.

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I don't know if you ever looked at the budget, the Vatican has for missionary work, especially in Africa, it's overwhelming. So now, they had to come up with some tools to stop this religion from growing. Now, some Muslims with their misunderstanding, misunderstanding and their distorted understanding that we would have this way of the religion held their course. Simply they accused the religion to be, you know, anti this anti that anti this and it's a tourism, religion of terrorism. And then you got these so called Muslims, they go and execute these, whether it is the Paris attacks, whether it is what happened in California recently. So that in a way a credit that trend,

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but again, the trend is alarming. Why it's alarming, because he got the presidential

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contender, the Republican in the US in the US making these alarming comments about Muslims. Yeah, Muslims free his own

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Muslim being ID, that debates about Muslims, every single machine should be shut down. And every time he makes these

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amazing, in my opinion, amazing statements, guess what his re rating goes up, I think is is what about popularity grows. That means there is a huge segment

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in the West entertain these ideas or they have been sold on these propaganda is what is called Islamophobia. Basically the need to defend the religion. So I appreciate Shake what you're doing for us, you're showing us number one that is Islamophobia is not new. Secondly, you're showing us that it is a political product for people to purchase with their votes. And this product is aimed at

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Using people's fear to get into office? Absolutely. That is what is happening in the whole world recently, even in some Muslim countries, you know, they use that.

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But this is a very dangerous game. Some people are already comparing what is being said about Muslims in the West, to what is being said about Jews. In Germany during the Nazi, right, yes, they say these are the exact statements that are being there are parallels between the two. So this is a serious issue. If Muslims living out there, do not do anything about this, this could escalate, this could reach to that. And this is where really, it's alarming. And this is where I really wanted to start with the believing and others. So we find comfort in this whole our poverty level. But it's not something that you should just let go as a Muslim, living in the West, you have choices you need

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to understand you have chosen, but certainly your choices does not include shooting randomly, non Muslims, he cannot do that. Even the people who radical you, even the people who look down upon you, according to your religion, you cannot do that shake. Before we continue with you, you've started us on our way towards what our response should be. Before we go further there, I want to go back to something you said earlier, you were talking about

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the fact that Islamophobia is not new, it's been there, it's always been there. And you also said that the enemies of Islam want to stop the growth of Islam, they want to prevent the Shahada from taking place. This when whenever we talk about history, this brings up the question about the so called Muslim Golden Age, when the developed world was in Asia and Africa, the Middle East, all the centers of economics learning, and the European countries were in a state of under development. And so with this rise of European global prominence, it also necessarily meant the decline of Muslims.

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Is this an extension of

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keeping the gains that were achieved during the rise of

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European global

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development?

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This this struggle against Muslims, you see, yeah, you know, your point is very well taken. But what we don't pay attention to any civilization has two fronts, that matter material front, and the moral front.

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And if they do not both grow,

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and guard the society, it becomes self destructive. And look upon the Roman Empire. Look at what the Greek Empire, what is happening. Yes, Europe and the West, possessed, that develop men stage or the material stage, but look at the mortality

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is going downhill. You hear about the Supreme Court in the United States and the ruling about the same sex marriage,

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sex education, they teach all types of abnormal sex in schools. The only sex that they do not teach is the normal sex. They want people to get acquainted with all the abnormality, but the normal path, no, they don't teach.

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You see, that's where Islam comes in.

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That's where actually Islam is easy. You need to you need to look back upon the holistic aims of Islam, of the religion itself, the preservation of the religion, the preservation of the human life, and that's where we tell these brothers if they are still brothers, we call upon them. Random shooting of people is against the religion. Their lives are sacred. You cannot do that.

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These people are under a covenant with you.

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There is a truce of peace and security that you have with them. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam says whoever kills someone who's under this covenant, he will not smell the fragrance of gender. Even though the fragrance of gender can be smelled from a 40 years distance travel travel distance.

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You know that he's not going to get there. And so look at this the preservation of the progeny, or the no abnormal sex, no adultery. The next generation is entitled to be born into a house where there is a committed husband and a committed wife, a committed father committed mother to the process, not a girlfriend, not a boyfriend. This is easy. Look at the intellect. Now we're in Colorado come from Colorado, they legalized marijuana, you can smoke a joint there with no problem. Now that people actually come from all over the country to getting high, and drinking, intellect know, the property that will all the looked at all of these. And so this is not this is going to

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change our system. And we're not talking about the normal people here. We're talking about the people who who run these businesses, you need to understand that all these enterprises, enterprises who basically promote these businesses, now Islam comes in and attract people because of morality, why people are attracted to Islam in the West because of morality, they see that there is a moral frontier. So regardless of how far you can go with your material, progress with that side of civilization, if morality is not protected, forget it is not going to, it's going to become a self destructive force. And this is what is happening in the West. And that's where Islam comes in as a

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solution. And that's where they are defaming Islam, because this is not allowing them to progress any farther, and they want to stop this. And that's the point I'm trying to make. But again, I'm not really talking about claimants here, I'm not talking about Patricia and john, I'm talking about

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corporations. I'm talking about the weapon manufacturer, I'm talking about the people who sell weaponry, I'm talking about the these media outlets, these huge, where they work and causing feed and getting people you know, to be afraid. And they utilize this to their own political agendas. And and that's the point I'm trying to make, check. Thank you so much. We're ready for a report we're going to have a look at to

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support our conversation here. We'd be right back after this report.

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Last night, my uncle gave me $500 to give to one of his friends in the mosque.

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He was going out of town and needed to get this to him by today. So I set out to also to meet him.

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It worked out well since I was planning on visiting a friend who lived near the mosque anyway. And it was of course, a chance to also catch the prayer and congregation.

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I was scared and embarrassed. I didn't know what I would tell my uncle.

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It wasn't even about the money because I knew I could find a way to get that amount from somewhere if I really had to. But if my uncle found out he'd be extremely upset. First I was scared, then confused, then just annoyed. I mean, where could it have gone?

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I then calm myself down by remembering that the Prophet peace be upon him taught Allah has decreed. And what He willed has happened. My being annoyed isn't going to bring back the money. And for now, I just need to find a way to get $500 to my uncle's friend. I still figured though that I should probably report it to the cops and hope for the best. So I decided I take the bus over to the police station.

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The other man taking the bus seemed really uncomfortable with me, looking at me suspiciously as if I was up to no good. But I'd gotten that look before. And as usual. I simply smiled at him and greeted him the way I do with everyone else.

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He continued to stare at me with that same look. And I couldn't figure out why. It was like I was carrying a bomb or something.

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And I noticed he kept looking at my bag.

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I wanted to put them at ease. I pulled out a bag of dates and asked him if he would like some. He smiled and said I'd never eaten those before. I told him jokingly to give it a chance. I promise you they're not poisoned. So he hesitantly agreed, took a bite and finally cracked a smile. The man asked me if I knew him because of the way I warmly greeted him.

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After all, strangers don't usually hand you dates to eat on a bus in America. I told him no, I'm just Muslim. And this is how we were taught to treat people. He then asked what is the ring say? It looks like something I've seen Islamic terrorists were on TV said it says Mohammed, the Messenger of God. And he was a messenger of peace. And so that led to an interesting conversation. I told him I've seen people kill in the name of Christ. But I don't blame Jesus peace be upon him for their actions. Likewise, our Prophet and religion is free from those people.

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Interestingly enough, he admitted to me that he stereotyped me as well. He said that he saw me when I left the mosque and thought I was a terrorist because I put the bag on the ground and ran off. I laughed, then apologized, then explained to him that I was distracted because I just lost $500. And I was trying to find it before anyone else would pick it up.

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I honestly wasn't surprised by his perception of me. Let's face it, the media contributes to creating this distorted perception of Muslims. And if those were the only images we saw Muslims, who would probably think the same told him that if he was really interested in understanding terrorism, he could read the FBI his 2005 report on domestic terrorism, which said that Muslims account for only 6% of the terrorist attacks carried out on American soil. I stress that violence has no religion, and that our religion is one of peace, that we even greet each other with peace, and that the word Islam is derived from the word peace. And anyone who reads about our Prophet peace be upon

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him will know that he and his followers never sanctioned harming innocent people. And in fact, the poor and likened killing one innocent person, to killing all of mankind.

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A man asked the Messenger of Allah, which act in Islam is best. He said, to feed the poor, and to greet those who you know, and those who you don't know. He also said smiling in the face of your brothers and act of charity. There are many sayings of the Prophet peace be upon them similar to these that completely contradict the image that's been painted of Islam is derived from peace. One of the last names is a salon peace and our greeting as Muslims is peace.

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Suddenly, he tapped me on the back and said, he figured out on the bus that the money belonged to me, and admitted that he wasn't initially going to return it to me. But when I smile that in the way I did, greeted him, offered him dates and talk to him. Everything he thought about Muslims slowly started to disappear. And he felt compelled to give me the money. So I thanked him for that. And he said, I'm the one who should be thanked, so I taught him a valuable lesson today. We shook hands and he left, but I knew that his hand was not all that I had touched. I'm the loving Salaam said that the first words he heard from the Prophet peace be upon him were, oh people, spread peace amongst

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yourselves, and feed your poor and pray at night as others around you sleep and you will enter Paradise in peace. A lot more Sunday was suddenly mana Nabina Muhammad

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Salah Salam aleikum, welcome back to how to tonight. We hope you appreciate it this short report, giving us an example of the importance of being active and being good Muslims as a way of showing people what true Islam really is. We are joined by shake Kareem

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shake cream. Before the break, we talked about the concept of Islamophobia, its origins, how it's played out. And I think we're ready now to move into some things that we can do as Muslim solutions that we can do to combat this so called Islamophobia. Yeah, I really like the report and allow me just a minute to say something that it is through the media in the West, they always associate Islam with the

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behaviors of individuals who may not even be practicing Islam. I mean, if you just go and inspect the background or the biographies of these individuals who carried out the attacks in France,

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they are far distant from the massages you know, the the masks and they are not even they were not even associated with the with the massage, and that's a problem you know, and the US just four days before the California

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mass shooting, there was actually a Christian who carried out a similar shooting in Colorado Springs in but they never associated Christianity with, with with the individual even though

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The person actually was bearded. And it would, I was afraid that he would, you know, be named the Muslim name. So the point I'm trying to make is he can tell that it's, you know, it's it's targeting

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Muslims, it's a policy, it's a policy that you know, you try to associate the whole religion with certain or limited number of individuals

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token of solutions. Okay. Number one, we must

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utter these condemnations and condemning, you know, the the condemnations against these shootings. Yes, evil, we must make it crystal clear to the public there, that we do not condone this and this is not Islamic. Now, he ended up some Muslim with what some Muslims I mean, to to state the truth, they overdo it.

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Like they end up and say, Okay, we're one and you know, your religion is good, my religion is good, then you're going to paradise and I'm going to paradise we understand this is these are extremes, in my opinion, that you end up out there and you even compromise when when you you read in the Quran, for example, that those who say, the Messiah is Allah or disbelievers. And then you go and validate their religion, or, you know, telling them that they would go to Paradise, when you hear a colossal asylum, saying that whoever hears of me and he doesn't accept my message.

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You see, why not to listen? tolerance is nothing beliefs,

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we must come to that. And this is why a lot of these enter so called interfaith, they, they become unsuccessful at the end. Because they don't state the truth, you go out there. And their agenda actually is to convert you and their agenda, your agenda is to convert them and you don't face this, you don't know, let's talk about this, you believe in something, I believe in something. Let's agree to disagree, like they say, but for me to be, you know,

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in your support, don't expect me to compromise my belief. And at the same time, if you wish to support me, I'm not going to compromise my faith for you. So that is one extreme. The other extreme that when when there are some Muslims out there, who they, when they see organizations, or individuals denouncing these shootings, you know, coming out and writing on social media, or even sending mass emails to their communities, letting them know that Listen, this is against the teachings of Islam, they say, Listen, you are violating the principle of Allah and Al Bara, you know that so those are two extremes. Now another, this falls under what is known to be a bill. You know,

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Bill has nothing to do with the law. And, and maybe some of the viewers don't even know what the shape is talking about. But I'll break it down. Basically, they say that this would apply to you loving them, wood, wood, wood, this has nothing to do with love. This has to do with the rights, they are entitled to feel secure from you, secure towards you. They are entitled to security from you, and that would fall under good treatment. Now, let me ask you a simple question. Are the people in America are the people in Europe, combatant?

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No, they are not. They are not to you. They are not they under a truce or under a treaty peace treaty that they only expect peace from you. Now, they have to feel that peace from you.

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I tell you something that I was flying back from New York, a couple of days after what happened in France, and I was standing on my boarding, you know, and that little child, you know, I didn't pay attention. And he wanted to talk you want to have a conversation with me? I think he wanted to have comfort that I'm normal. I'm not like these guys. Yeah, I think people deserve that. That's what the point I'm trying to make. So we should denounce, we should condemn these acts, and we should utter these condemnations without again, compromising you don't have to compromise what you believe in. You don't have to compromise your religion to do this. Or without, you know, violating the principle

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of Alberta and then

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the second thing that every Muslim need to pay attention to that you have choices.

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You have choices. Listen.

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I listed earlier

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The holistic aims of Islam. Number one, the preservation of your religion, if you're unable to practice your religion, because lately, you know, I've been seeing these emails going back and forth, and in America and around some communities, asking brothers to shave their beards, and asking sisters to take off their hijab.

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Listen, we're not going to go that far here. Okay, I understand. It's painful. I understand. It's very trying, but it shouldn't go that far.

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If you're unable to practice your religion, if you're unable to show your Islam, then you can go somewhere else and I don't mean go somewhere else to outside the boundaries of the West. Just move from one city to another, where people are more tolerant towards you because listen, we have a verse in the Quran.

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In a Latina woman, Monica Duvall, me lalime unforeseen car FEMA quantum, those whom the angels will come to seize the souls in a state of disobedience. The angels will ask them, why did you die like this? How in the world did you allow yourselves to die in such a condition? corluka mustafina fill out. They said we were outnumbered. We were overpowered. We could not stand in the face of slama phobia. We had to compromise. I have to turn Mohammed into Mo. I couldn't handle being named Mohammed. I have to shave that beard. So I fit within the society. I have to take off that job. So I shouldn't be you know, I just want to be known and not be known as a Muslim. Look at the LM talkin

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Allah he was shot and photography. Why didn't you go somewhere else. That excuse was not accepted. He understand. So they do have choices. You don't have to stay in that place where there is overwhelming Islamophobic kind of trend and, and you're unable to show your Islam and practice your deen again. And in this shake, I just want to emphasize important point, you're saying that there's a limit, to

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show demonstrating that we are good guys. And if we shouldn't, in other words, bend ourselves out of shape and abandoned.

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For the purposes of that's what they want to accomplish. You see, you see it plays both ways. Islamophobic

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policies or practices, they serve two ways. They serve two things. Number one, they will not limit the number of people accepting Islam. Okay. Number two, they want the people who practice the religion to give up that practice.

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Because of peer pressure, because of pressure, they have pressure, they have a pressure, he can look like this anymore. Okay, and that you can do this you have to move somewhere else. He cannot do this. Yeah. Easy.

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Easy to understand. I don't know. I'm sure you've flown he came to Egypt. And I'm sure you talk on airplanes. Yes, once Legionella, you know, when they do that demonstration at the very beginning of when you when you fly, you know when they tell you that in the case of there is a you know, the pressure goes down. Yeah, there's no oxygen something is gonna fold up what they tell you. Please don't help children sitting next to you help yourself first. Yeah, make sure that you're breathing first before you help anybody else. That is selfishness. You know this, we do this with our religion, you have to be selfish, once it comes to your religion. You cannot stay somewhere where

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you compromise in your religion, you cannot you have to move you have to go somewhere else. And this is very important. Because again, why did the Prophet sallallahu Sallam say that time will come when a believer will be holding his earlier like holding a piece of file in his hand?

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Why would he say that? A person will be passing by the grave of another person and say he wishes to be in his place. Because he's afraid is gonna lose his Deen is the religion. Again, denounce without compromises of durability. Don't go out of date because listen, none Muslims know about us what we do know about ourselves. Whether you like it or not shake, we have a telephone call. Someone's joining us and sister Laila. She's calling from the United States actually. Salaam Alaikum. Sister Laila.

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Yes.

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Yeah, welcome to How to tonight. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you perfectly well.

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Okay, very good. Very good. Can we're talking our subject tonight is on Islamophobia. A very important topic for us in the wake of the this year in particular has been

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we've had a number of major attacks that Muslims are being blamed for Can you talk about how you see it and any experiences you may have had?

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Yeah, you know, you know, it's just very unfortunate that

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these attacks you know, have been done by you know,

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So called Muslims, I must say, because we, you know, us, you know, the, the real, you know, true Muslims who know Islam know that, you know that these are these are attacks and things that we are totally against, you know, so when we hear that no terrorist is, you know, a Muslim is going and bombing, you know, this innocent person or or, or you know going in and shooting, you know, this office or whatever it is, we are one sided, we are really sad and heartbroken. Because people, you know, people just automatically assume that, you know, it's what we believe. And it's not, it's not. And we are looking, you know, we are just looked at differently now. And things have escalated

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because of the more you know, recent attacks. And it's just, you know, it's really, it's really heartbreaking.

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Yeah, you know, I haven't, I haven't experienced

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any ism Islamophobia here, you know, hunting for that. And I'm happy to see that, you know, the local Masjid that I attend are talking about this, and, you know, having lectures about this and educating the community, you know, about these attacks and letting everyone know that you know, what this is? This is not Islam, and we don't stand for this, you know?

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Yeah. Yeah, I think I think that is very important.

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As the shake has been telling us, for us to vocalize our condemnation of these kinds of Acts, anything else you'd like to share with us sister, Laila?

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No, I just, I just want us to this is the time where, you know, we have to really, really, you know, come together as you know, as one, and, you know, yeah, speak up and speak out against this. Because, you know, people want to know, like, you know, hey, I'm not unadjusted, you know, people say, Oh, you know, why are you always

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defending or defending yourself? Or, because you're, you're being you're being know, my religion, something that I believe in, you know, and saying that this evil or it's bad. So yeah, we have to speak up. And you know, we have to speak positive. And not only speak, but show by our actions. And, you know, by, of course, by the sooner of putting on seller financing and being that, you know, kind of Muslim in the Caribbean, always smiling and helping know, your neighbor, and your fellow, you know, friends, even if they're not Muslim. So I think that we have to come together as one among and you know, show that, hey, you know, what,

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you know, and will hurt, you know, sad.

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Yeah, very true sister, Laila, and we appreciate you taking the time to be with us. We wish you and the Muslims that you worship, with every success, and please take every precaution, we know that the sisters in particular are being targeted because of their people are haters are looking for visible signs of Islam. So thank you so much, sister, and Salaam Alaikum. To you.

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Yeah, there was a recent study done in London that sisters has stand a chance by Was it 60 or 70%, more likely to be targeted by acts of violence.

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Okay, so before

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sister Lila called we were talking about

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you are giving us

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these rights

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that we have to give to rights of safety and security to give to non Muslims. What I'm trying to say is

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people must feel secure from you.

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You have to be proactive, you have to show that

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he cannot let them be under the impression that you're a potential issue.

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So you have to take you have to be proactive in this.

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But again, without compromising. Yeah, you see, that's the problem. That's what people do. And then the Western and they don't buy this and I think this is why they don't buy a lot of that stuff that we do. Because they go out there like you know, they they it's like they they want to do the cross with them. You can do that ready to trash Islam. No, no, you don't do that. You do this while you're preserving your identity as a Muslim. And while you're presenting your

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As a Muslim because listen, this is what Islam teaches anyways, you know, this is what the religion teaches we're not making that up that stuff. You know, I follow the religion from head to toe and that's what the religion teaches me that you're secure for me. You're safe from me. That's the bottom line. And and I think we need to do this we need to speak this out. And that's the point I'm trying to make. I am sorry to jump back.

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A question came to mind when sister Lila was talking

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Despite all these

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despite the situation we're continuing to see the numbers of Muslims increase for two reasons one people like me almost three years now I've been a Muslim to non Muslims in the West are taking Shahada. The second thing is that the fertility rate the birth rate among Muslims is higher than non Muslims. So these two things working has made the demographers un demographers people looking at the numbers of right that within the next few decades that Muslims will outnumber the question. Here's the question.

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This rate of growth expansion are this increase of terrorist activities?

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Is this a response to curtail the growth, the cut off the growth? Okay, I'm gonna jump one step ahead of you. You cannot cut off the growth. Okay, you can you need to understand this and no one will be Oh Allah, Dr. Salah Rasool Allah who will Huda even Hockley O'Hara who Allah de Nicola Carey Holman, careful, there is no, there is no question that nobody can stop the religion from Allah from growing, it's a vain effort. It's a vain effort. Do you need to understand this? It's a vain effort. So I'm sorry, I'm jumping one step ahead of No, no, it's okay. It could decrease. It could limit it could delay, but to stop it to kill it? No, you cannot kill it. Listen, the son of generations would

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sit down would go down, meaning people would die. But the son of Islam will always rise.

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It's always there. It's going to be there. It just waiting for people to grasp to grab it again. And that's where the West I think need to come to terms with that he cannot and I think some of them are actually realizing that. But again, they will. They will only realize this, if they understand if Muslims don't understand that compromising is not the solution, because unfortunately being under pressure because of Islamophobic practices. Some Muslims are entertaining the idea of just mingling into the societies and hiding your identity. We cannot do this, you know, Omar Alon, when he was in his way to receive the keys of Jerusalem.

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A situation happened that you know, he had to take off his shoes he came across I'm so sorry. Can we hear about this story we have a caller is holding for us. This caller also is calling from the US. Brother Malik salaam aleikum. Brother Malik.

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We lost brother Malik.

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Sister, my lack. Okay, so she's gonna call back in Sharla. We'll get reconnected In the meantime, please show Omar. No, he's Amira. Mui. Is that the leader of Final Empire? Yes, at the time. And he was crossing a pool of water. Yeah, to take off your shoes. That doesn't sound like does it look like no leader. Fabiola is advising him You can do this because the people are there look at the leaders differently.

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Omar looked at him and said, you know, we were the most humiliated of all races in the face of this earth. And has it been for Islam, we would not be given that dignity and honor. Anytime that we seek dignity and honor in anything other than Islam, Allah will humiliate us. That's what the key Muslims need to pay attention to that the source of dignity is Allah Subhana Allah and Allah will dignify you, only Allah will honor you only if you stick to a slab to stick to your teachings. And that's the point I'm trying to make with this. You know, Islamophobic whatever practices because you really have fulfilled their ambitions if you compromise your teachings, or you stop practicing it.

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Alright, so we've talked about, we started our discussion about

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The solutions are things. I want to get your your comment on one of the news items tonight, I talked about a group of Muslims in San Bernardino where they collected money they had a fundraiser to give to the non Muslim victims.

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This the the family Mr. Vice family great. Yeah. What is your comment? Well, this is easy. The problem with with us as Muslims, is we speak of the hate monotheism and but the characters of the hate are missing.

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We need to realize that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when he took the heat to people, he also exercised the nobility of his character when he was doing this. And this is what we do need to do as Muslims in the West. We need to actually be proactive in that field of feeding the hunger, the social justice, and all of this is I agree with you, she is a great example. Okay, so we have another phone call, yet again from the United States. Shaykh Mahmoud el Denali, Salaam Alaikum. Professor

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How are you shake I haven't seen you in many many months hope all as well.

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All right, so we're talking about the subject of Islamophobia. How do you see the subject what can Muslims do inshallah

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my experience here before through United Kingdom and stayed about six years

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we went to school for about seven months.

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But I didn't find anything abnormal, people are becoming Muslim and Muslim majority of them are integrating with the community and are interacting and have so many activities

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on my part, in the consensus working or doing

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something like interfaith dialogue, I know that some people are having some phobia but we met people to see you had been to churches and sometimes synagogues and only interfaith they along and people are working with

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some very little channels. Sometimes we might go to Islam the word robot Do you hear

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me huh? Okay. And

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the reaction that you see where you are

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on both sides Do you see the non Muslims How do you see non Muslims behaving and and the Muslims as well? Can you talk about both communities in response to all these, this climate that we're living in?

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I have

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I have some Muslim neighbors and will not say that I'd like Muslims exchange visit sometimes exchanged guests and

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long been super nice morning and it's a Good morning, sir. It's

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an honor. He says in the Quran to care for the neighbor and to deal with him nice knowing all what we are trying to do here. And as a Muslim

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community here I am doing my best to always

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give a good example to Islam and Muslims and this is what I encourage people in all my features here to have

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relations with our Muslim brothers and sisters.

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Okay.

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Shaykh Mahmoud, we have to end it here. We want to thank you for joining us.

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Wish you and your family every success inshallah. salaam aleikum, shake.

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Shack Karim, I'm so sorry to do this to you. Oh, terrible news we have consumed an entire hour. We have about two to three minutes left.

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Before we close the segment.

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Anything else? I mean, there are many things that we wanted to talk about in terms of fear how Muslims can manage the fear that some of us have. And

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there are many, many things that we didn't get to that, you know, you can choose how you want to close.

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Number one, every Muslim need to realize that they do have a choice. You don't have to stay there. You don't have to. If your religion is at stake. You don't have to

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Stay there. Number two, if you are staying there and you're facing such a couple of days, I'm flying back to the US

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Mashallah Taka lalala hospital our Dharma luckyland. inshallah,

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you know, you need to understand this, that believing in what you believe in.

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There is a price that you have to pay.

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Because you're a stranger.

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Islam emerged to be a strange thing, and it will revert to become a strange thing again.

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You need to understand this and you need to expect harmful words from here and there.

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latos law wouldn't be unwelcome on fusi kumala at a small nominal Idina Oh takita, public omona ladina Shaku adding kathira you will be tested with respect to your wealth and yourself. And you will hear from those who are given the Scripture before you earn the polytheists a lot of harmful things.

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Now, what should you do? Okay, trust Allah subhana wa.

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Everything is ordained by Allah like, this is why we go back to the subject of al Qaeda. That's where we find comfort. Anything that inflect you is something that Allah subhanaw taala ordained who, but now dealing with these practices, you must deal with it with perseverance, patience, and repel any evil practice against you with goodness,

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a default bility here is no say you meet

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a bad face with a smile. And happy face with unpleasant face with a smile. We always receive these looks. But we did with a smile. This is how the profits or loss. And this is that work in practice that were in action. You see, it's easy to sit like this and TV shows and on the bandwidth and speak. But really the brothers and the sisters out there who repeal these practices with a good character with being proactive in assuring people that you're a peaceful person. I'm here to serve humanity. I'm here to volunteer for the sake of this, and I'm here without compromising your faith. Yeah. You see, you don't have to have a Christmas tree in your backyard. You don't have to do that.

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You don't have to go and say America, you don't have to. You don't have to do this. And this is the point. This is striking the balance between the two things, that maintaining your character, you're not compromising our beliefs. And at the same time, you're spreading the message of peace amongst people and letting them know that you're a peaceful person. Shaykh Kareem, thank you so much for being with us.

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We've been talking with Shaykh Kareem Abizaid about the challenge of Islamophobia in the West, we appreciate him being with us hope that this discussion was beneficial for your lives. inshallah. We will conclude tonight's program with a report on demonstrations that were conducted in London in Britain. inshallah, we will be back tomorrow, with permission from Almighty Allah to continue the program with more news information and discussion Salaam Alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

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Start by saying thank you to every one of you, who's come here this evening, to stand as part of our United local community in support of Finsbury Park Mosque, the cause of the disgusting and disgraceful attack that they suffered last Friday night, between no defensive and on attack, there could be no apology for it, it was simply wrong. attack is designed to divide our community to divide our community between one faith and another one ethnic group or another, or one people in another. It has failed, it will fail it will always fail because we're very proud of our multicultural community.

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I want to live in a world that's not a world of war. That doesn't resolve all the world's problems by sending the bombers in

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day. All problems have to be resolved by people in political circles, diplomatic circles, popular circles

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Thank you for this wonderful demonstration of our community, our unity in the face of adversity that our friends face. You know, best know who your friends are when you're in need, because when the going gets tough sometimes, apparently friends disappear. Tonight Mohamad friends