The Evil Effects Of The Interpretations Of The Modernist School
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The "immateriality of" modern schools and "immateriality of" news groups are highlighted as key themes for the discussion. The "monarch mentality and the "monarch" mentality that exists today is highlighted as important, and the "monarch" mentality is discussed as a need to act as a supportive member of the community. Personal experiences and outcomes of achieving spiritual goals are also discussed.AI Generated Transcript ©
Hello, this evenings
lecture, inshallah will be,
of course, handled by verbose
and dealing with the dangerous of the modern schools interpretation. And
I think that your mom is quite adept at dealing with the topic and explaining it very clearly. so that we may all understand
how it applies, of course, in today's world, and of course, particularly from the screen,
the handler handler was
handed over
as a pseudo Satan is not a brief mention, in this lecture, I want to discuss
some aspects of a movement, which, unfortunately, especially in recent times,
has become very strong
in the United States.
And it has, unfortunately, I've noticed that it has moved about one brother earlier today,
that unfortunately, has found a new kind of a new place of vented ideas and notions and as to the computer, billboard, and the news group.
Unfortunately, these news groups are areas in which people can pretty much write whatever they wish to write. Some of them are even unedited, some of the news group
and any this group of people that are the trend or the thoughts of the school that I want to talk about today, I noticed recently they've been using this media, or this medium more and more often, lady, unfortunately, this
computer billboards in the news groups, they go through many times new Muslims, who are not aware of the kind of things that are being said and and the kind of wrong notions that they're being fed.
Well, I hope we shall learn in today's lecture, we'll be able to discuss some of the concepts of this movement,
in color when we see it in practice, and when we see people being influenced by it, we'll be able to recognize it. And we'll be able to advise these brothers and sisters who are influenced by the school system in sha Allah,
to be able to keep them from straying from the from the to
100, Allah subhanho wa Taala, through the Quran, through the sin of the Kama Sutra, nem has given us a very clear
belief system, a very clear methodology for life, very pure and very clear that is very much completely consistent with the sutra or the nature of mankind, that are left behind with data as creators with
left hand with data, as we talked about earlier, they preserve the brand, preserve the heritage of the public on this assylum. So in fact, by this merging by dressing we have pretty much and we can say we have everything that we need. For our get into this life, we have everything that we need to know what we should believe in, what are the aspects of our data, what are the aspects of our belief and so forth.
What we are under law in a unique situation when you compare ourselves to the Jews and the Christians and other people in this world, who are not in possession of this perfect and pure and divine revelation from Allah subhanho wa Taala. And so therefore, they are forced to turn to other sources, they are forced to turn to human reasoning, they are forced to turn to things which are not capable, and which are not perfect, as the perfect perfection of the revelation of Allah subhana wa God.
So when we look at, for example, we studied philosophy, and we studied, let's say, Greek philosophy or other kinds of philosophy, modern day philosophy,
we can read from some very strange thing.
And it's not.
We should not be surprised when we look at when we read what the humans are writing, because many times they are writing about things that are beyond the realm of human understanding. And beyond words, elicit what God has given us the ability to understand with our human reasoning, and with the physical world that we have around us.
So when we read the same things coming from them, we should not be surprised. By clay, we should feel sorry for these people that they are missing. And don't know sometimes about the revelation of Allah subhana wa Tada, which clearly answers all of these questions about who is man? What is his goal in life, what is his purpose, his life and so
for him to lead this great blessing that God has given us
the pure revelation of Allah subhanho wa Taala, which shows us and guides us in this world and when a believer has this
This kind of thing, you would think you would think that there's no way that this believer would start to look to external sources and not be satisfied with what he has in the Quran and Sunnah.
You don't really want to do it there is actually someone who was ignorant of the Quran.
But actually in the history of the Muslims, we find this happening over and over again.
Where although what we have in the Quran, and Sunnah is not only sufficient, but it is complete, and it is what we need. Unfortunately, historically, many times, Muslims have turned to external external sources,
non static sources and try to infiltrate some of the thoughts nonischemic thoughts, and try to bring them into Islam, sometimes compromising Islam, and sometimes even putting the external forces above this nemesis,
for example, in the history of the Muslim world,
during the time of the
moon,
and they began this process of translating the worst of the, of the Greek into Arabic.
In fact,
the skeleton opened up a place called Dr. Heckman, in which basically, it was a place for all philosophers, all people of any belief to come together and discuss their beliefs, and so forth, was this were a place of doubt. And they come in and they talk to them about this. And this is something one thing, but unfortunately, we're not that kind of nature, the nature of it was the people who come together and discuss the different beliefs. And although the Muslim had the pure brawn, and
they would actually come together with these other people in order to learn from them, and militarized their beliefs or to adjust their beliefs, according to what they learned,
from from, from other people.
Because of this, many concepts began to creep into Islam, many foreign concepts begin to creep into Islam, which had no place whatsoever in the belief and in the realm of the Muslim. And by the way, also, unfortunately, something that happened at that time, was happening at that time, and which also has something very similar to what happened in the past
200 years or so in the Western world,
is that mathematics,
and physics, and other physical sciences. All of these areas were dealt with under this subject of philosophy.
Mathematics was considered a science of philosophy, physics was considered a science of philosophy.
So unfortunately, what happened to many Muslims.
And as I said, this is similar, similar to what happened to Muslims in the past 200 200 years or so
is that when they begin to read the mathematics,
and the physics of the of the Greek philosophers, they see that they had lots of good ideas, Nepal, the concept, especially at that time, they thought, these concepts are good.
But they fail to distinguish between perhaps what is good and evil in these political sciences, or mathematics and so forth, if they fail to distinguish between what is good in these areas, and what was bad, and what was coming along with it, the philosophy of the Greeks,
and many of them,
many of the Muslims, they begin to accept all of it.
And when they saw how good the mathematics and the physics is, they also thought well also then in philosophy and other areas, that we must be prepared.
And I said that that's similar to what happened
in the Muslim world recently, for example,
as the Muslim world, as the colonialist, conquered person, the Muslim world, and as basically we can call them the materially backward Look, the world saw the advancements of Europe, in the same way that these early Muslims reported, because of the mathematics and physics of the of the Greek philosophers, many Muslims when they saw the advancement of Europe, the material advancement of Europe, they thought also that, oh, this advance in this area, then also in religion, and social and cultural matters, and so forth, also imitate that, and we should also take that from, and some of them are some of the things that we should take everything from your, the good and the bad. And
that's the only way we become
will become similar.
So then what happened
in the early years, something similar to what happened again, as I said, is that they fail to distinguish between those areas that perhaps the Greek may have had some right points, and even though nowadays, and this is also actually related to my topic, most of what they wrote nowadays, we considered nonsense, but some of it was true, and it's still considered so let me put it that way. They fail to distinguish between perhaps what is good in these areas of mathematics and physics
and for forgot the fact that
matters of philosophy and the things in which our data has spoken. And what's the lesson without giving us guidance, there's no way that the Greek philosophy and the Greek teachings could be superior to what Allah subhana wa tada has given us.
And they forgot also,
that perhaps in mathematics and physics, there is room for the for the human intellect is room for the mind to discover many things. And you can go very deep into physics, very deep into mathematics. And it's still within the realm of the human mind. But when it comes to philosophy, and the nature of God, and the nature of existence is the things that are left behind what data has given us, the human mind, very limited access to very limited knowledge concerning.
So they also forgot that point that in some areas,
the only source the only answer the only truth can be found the revelation. And human reasoning has some limitations
in those areas, but in fact, these people, historically, they developed into two groups. One is known as the philosophers and so called Islamic philosophers.
And the other group are known as
the network and you can think closer to
Islam than the philosophers. But at the same time, the the the modular, had this belief
that the human mind can get even on it.
And it's a logical
human mind and what the human mind concludes, and what the human mind sees,
has to be true.
And this is developed from the rational principles of the Greek philosophers that they were influenced by, that what the human mind can conclude and can prove rationally, this must be true. And this takes precedence over what has been narrated even from the Quran, and even in the Harry Potter film.
And, in fact, one of their leaders, the Russian he, he said in
40, I'm not very good at memorizing for sushi, I don't care that much
in an English or Arabic.
But he said, an
MCC jenica data is attorney what I took now bureau Bureau is a political opponent.
And he said that you should walk in your game under the banner of the authority, what are you talking about, here's an app in human intellect, you should work in your game under the banner under the sign or under the banner of human intellect. And do not be convincing and don't not be satisfied by narration from songs on songs. And what he's saying is a novel or what is the narrated from the former amateur film.
And what you've seen explicitly is don't be satisfied with those things. But take what your mind says is true. And don't worry about
and what has been narrated from the person. And unfortunately, as emotionally, he's not someone.
And it may contain in some of those philosophies, a win for someone who wrote it's a bit of a broad statement
in which many of those points
are in his book that are very good point. But then he was influenced by this way of thinking, to the point that he had said clearly that, and what's your opinion, what's your intellect doesn't show except that and don't worry, don't worry about what has been narrated, even from the public on the facility.
And even some of them and when they discuss the burden, Mohammed says him himself. They didn't trust him like you and your me.
And he did not the program prophets prophecy, receiving a revelation was not really that special
mechanism, philosophers, philosophers, some of them even claim to be more superior to the public sector. And I'm pleased to be surprised with
what we see also this, this same kind of thing about
treating
the problem
as it is every day, as if each one of us is just a normal human being. Any fact that he received revelation isn't that important. And one of the
jumping out to the present time, one recent book written about the life of the problem, Homicide denim, very famous book, one of the books translated into English from the Arabic language, the name of the book is hired Mohammed
and the life of Mohammed.
That's the name of the book in Arabic, the life form. There's no peace before him. There's no silver lining within him after his name. There's no annual tour, there's nothing just life of
war. And this is clearly giving us the message. That and in fact, if you read the book, you'll see this, this kind of thinking is present in the book that ended the problem of homelessness, in fact, was basically no different from from any one of them. Where they go from the problem homicides Mm hmm.
As disproof of Tesla, not only the profits, of course, but if you're going to consider the profit no different than anyone else, then of course, you will consider this the Havas as basically no different from.
From any one of us, for example, American obey one of the leaders of the Tesla, one of the things
he said about some of the Sahaba, they said Viola
de
baja and
testify concerning a shoe lace in front of me, I will not accept that.
holy man, for those who are familiar with the history know why he mentioned, those people in particular, waving his emissary again, who is considered as I said, not for extreme
luxury, clearly called Elon Musk, the companion, the Policy Center ally, when discussing ideas and promises,
that his opposite his mind cannot accept.
Apart from
earlier today,
what is an unfortunate circumstance was the results of Muslim and he looking to outside influences, and letting themselves be influenced by heating other than
instead of going for their, for their belief in their faith, going to the pure, but all of a sudden, they allow themselves to be influenced by other rationalistic thoughts. And they begin to accept those thoughts and put those thoughts as
above
the crowd.
This group,
I don't want to say they died probably dormant, they became dormant and probably be a better
because recently, they're erupting again, basically.
And it became dormant for for quite some period of time.
And it would love to drink.
But unfortunately, all
and what happened. Now, if we jumped ahead, historically, through Europe,
we see that something now again, something new in Europe is happening.
And in Europe basically, in what they call the Dark Ages.
Like that they choose, you know the specific terms or
what they call the Dark Ages, basically the church controls everything.
And what the church said was truth and your acceptance over
under the influence of the Muslim. They began the renaissance in Europe, the rebirth of thinking
in Europe.
And they begin to notice. And as they as they learn more scientific matters. And again, we're talking about physically scientific things that they picked up from the Muslims, they begin to notice that many of the thing
that they saw as true in reality, physical truth,
were things that went against what the church was.
In some of the leading thinkers of that day, of that time.
Basically, we're opposing the fish, I mean, they were coming up with conclusion, coming up with, for example, noon, noon at any time, which was against the belief of the,
of the church.
Some of them, of course, are theories. And by the way, it should always distinguish between scientific, scientific theories and facts. And some people fail to distinguish between the two. And they interpret the Quran, Hadith, sometimes based on theory, rather than facts. There is what it is theory theory, hypothesis itself, by definition, means what that means it could be true, proven true or false.
If it becomes fact you no longer call it a scientific theory and scientific hypothesis, it comes back. But we accept scientific theories and hypotheses, unfortunately, as
so these scientific theories that these people were coming up with,
were basically violating the teachings of the church.
And again, even these people like guns, and because they started getting also into philosophy, they started actually going beyond the realm of just physical sciences, but also going into philosophy.
And to begin a very strong split. And as I started at the beginning, as I said at the beginning, and it should not be surprising to us, because Christianity is not really any of the pieces of Christianity not really based on revelation from Allah subhanaw taala, especially when we talk about the teachings of the church
should not be surprising to us.
That Canada began this conflict and between physical reality
and
scientific theory whether it was true or false, was taken as given for now, physical reality and scientific truth and what was being taught by the church.
And as you know, the conflict between the two groups, what we can call the scientist and the church became very heavy indeed. And in a lot of people lost their lives, because they had beliefs that went against the beliefs of the
employees based on scientific fact and Inquisition, one of the aspects of being physician, and you will not get insane. But throughout Europe, one of the aspects of Inquisition was to punish those people who had scientific beliefs that went against the beliefs of the church,
when it came to a point, and he came to a point that,
at least for the majority of the people,
and in the church, actually, if you look at it historically, you can see that the church was losing the battle.
And the people were seeing that a lot of the things we're being taught are true, and the seats in front of themselves, and the understanding with their mind, and the things that the church was teaching. And we're talking about the catholic church were not true. So they begin
a large number of reform movements inside the church.
And this is because you don't have time to discuss these kinds of things in detail, but inside the church, something has to be done.
And one of the one of the major things that was done, and one of the major kind of reform movement,
was the idea and the development of the thoughts of modernism,
modernism inside the church itself. And this is the way that some people inside the church were able to reconfigure their belief in Jesus as Lord and so forth. And what has actually happened.
And this,
this modernism, basically, and we'll get to it, we'll get back to it, again, is basically what they're saying is that revelation,
and the teaching of a religion has to be understood in the proper context.
And he said, they may have been true for the time that they were revealed.
And they might have some general truth behind it.
But in later generations, as people progress,
and it's amazing how many people are influenced by Marxist thought and believed even some linear,
even those who are not,
don't have any relation to the modernist movement, that they believe that the society or the world is progressing in a positive fashion.
And they came up with the idea that, that religion has to change with the changing of men, that as society changes, religion has changed. Well, this was the modernist movement inside the
inside the Christian church. So you have basically what developed you have pure secularism in the political world, in some cases, and you have kind of a modernist approach trying to balance the secularists and
Christian approach or the approach of the, of the church.
Now, unfortunately, when the modernist movement
was at its peak, or shortly after that, then this was also
close to the same time that the method, the materially backward Muslim world, began to be infiltrated by the West. And at the same time that the colonial strike started to make foothold into the West, into the Muslim men.
For the Muslim candidate for Europe, as a material event,
perhaps even advanced in other in other means, you know, scientifically events and so forth. And in many cases, they were overwhelmed by what they saw coming from Europe. And many Muslim leaders went to Europe to visit Europe.
And they saw what's happening in Europe, and they went back to their countries talking about how great Europe was over many, many writers are very famous To this day, they made the trip they made the most of
the time, they made the trip to Europe. And they were so influenced by and in so pleased by what they thought when they went back home, they used to write about the beauty of Europe, and how Muslims inshallah will become civilized and cultured and so forth.
By following the way of,
of Europe, and in fact,
the
basically, you can see really at that time, the the Muslims had three choices.
And you can see any Muslims at that time form one of these three choices.
One of these choices was to accept everything that was coming from the west.
And he to admit that the West is superior and so forth, and just accept everything that is coming.
One
another approach was to reject everything that is coming from.
And you have people on both sides.
Unfortunately, the third approach, which was the correct approach, which is really the intermediate approach, which was approaches some people like
me, and there were there were 100
people at that time, who saw that there was a problem in them.
And there was a big problem.
But until at the same time, they realized that their problem was not with Islam.
The problem was not with the exam, but the problem was with Muslim,
and the application of Islam.
And so they they called for coming back to the to Islam, and applying Islam in the matter that it is supposed to be applied.
For Hamdulillah, there was throughout the Muslim world, there were thinkers of that issue, and their writings exist today. But unfortunately, as we've seen, historically, they did not have the influence. In the long run, they did not have the
ability to counter all the other forces,
while the West also when they looked at the Muslim Mama, the template is a Muslim woman that they tried, especially in the early years that they tried to attack them.
One of them was Turkey.
Turkey was very vital to the to the European because it was the seat of the filler.
It was the political
and the political head.
And the leadership of the Muslim Ummah, was in Turkey in the Ottoman Empire.
So therefore, they
ended the 3030 loss. And they studied what would be the best approach towards certain
places they concentrated on with Egypt,
when Egypt was conferred on upon because it was the center of
which it was at that time was one of the most important or in fact, the most important center of Islamic learning in the Muslim world, that
was the third place to be that the country the norm was India, or the indo Pak subcon.
And their basic
reason for concentrating on that area was because of the economics and the, the position of that place in the world itself.
So they concentrate on these three areas. And as we can see, unfortunately, the effect that they had in mind, and all three of these areas was very damaging, indeed,
for example, in in Turkey, and they were able to bring down the hill up and of course, now I'm talking about it as if everything is a matter of external matters. I'm not, I'm not saying that whatsoever. And in the Muslims had gotten to that point because of their leaving a forum with him. And he, they were ready for this kind of thing to happen to them. So don't don't misunderstand me, because sometimes he talks about as almost, you know, the kuffar doing this, this is what we are doing it to ourselves.
We're happy to help. But it's not that they can do whatever they want to it.
And even though they still call us a superpower, they are not the superstar. And they cannot do whatever they want to the Muslim. And he has the Muslim returns, no promises, and they will not be able to do anything to the millah. Second, the Muslims, as I said,
and they were setting themselves up for this you can see when the and when they brought down the caliber, and when Ataturk took over in Turkey, and you can see many of the things that
exist, which of course is kind of, you could say an extremist, he was openly liberal.
And one of the things that you did, which was very important, was to change the script of the tricky things
in the Turkish used to be written in Arabic. And he changed the script to
Latin script.
So he used to be written in Arabic, it changed the script to lenskart, Malay, Malaysian Indonesian used to be written in Arabic, they changed the script to learn
Arabic Quran in Arabic, there are people who are trying to change the script length.
In this, this thing that this has been done over and over again. And if you look always to the people behind it, of course, there's usually the coupon
and what what happens when this when this occurs is that the people are automatically automatically even believing you don't change them from being Muslim. They automatically break off their path they break off from the past.
And a lot a lot of the and then as the language continues to grow, because languages, languages change languages growth. As the language has continued to grow with the new Latin script, it becomes more and more difficult for any of those people to understand the old was written in the old average
So basically, you cut off the whole new generation, from all of the legacy, all of the legacy that that that country had to all of the old Islamic works in Turkey. Now, many of the new generations, they cannot read them whatsoever.
When other places have course and Hamdulillah, they were not as, as.
But unfortunately, and in other places, still they had their amounts of success. And their amounts of success sometimes continues until until this day. The idea that an exam has to change because of the new situation. And Islam itself has to change.
For example, in the indo Pak subcontinent, one of the leaders of this movement was surveyed and the client
today who died in 1898.
And he concluded that the salvation after 1857, when Britain dominated the indo Pak,
subcontinent.
He concluded that the salvation of the Muslims depended upon cooperating, and befriending the British and adopting their culture.
And in other words, the thing that brought us Muslims to event
isn't English, but Muslims to be with us. And we have to give up Islam, and we have to adopt and accept the culture of the coupon.
While he also and this is difficult, the kinds of things that we're hearing nowadays, and he said that the emoji, it says there should be no empathy, no hatred between Christians and Muslims. He said, from Islamic point of view, this is prohibited, because Islam and this is what he wrote, of all religions in the world, Islam has the most respect for Christ and his game. So therefore, any there should be no hatred, there should be no enmity between Christians and Muslims from an Islamic point of view.
Similarly, he had to break down some of the cultural barriers between Muslims and COPPA. And he did this by making some footwork and
preaching some things. For example,
before that time in the Muslim, the Muslims at that time in the indo Pak sub continent, they refuse to eat at the same table with Christians.
Regardless of whether that may or may not be correct from any point of view, at that time, they absolutely refuse to befriend and eat with credit and so forth. So of course, he gave a fatwa that
that it was permissible for jewel for Muslims and Christians three at the same thing. And then at 78, in order to propagate his new teachings.
He founded a university in India, which is still in existence today, but I'm delighted to tell him better and better shape than it was when he was first founded. And he insisted, you remember Kemal Ataturk what he did with the language, he insisted that this university, the only medium of instruction will be English.
And so he's creating a new class of people who are proficient in the English language who are delving into the English language and are basically breaking off with their, with their pets. And to give them
some examples of some of the specials at that time.
He said polygamy is contrary to the spirit of exam or actually polygyny and should not be permitted except in rare cases.
More than bank business transactions loans in international trade, comprising our modern economy, although all involving payment of interest, do not properly fall under the definition of Riba and that are not contrary to foreign healthiness imposed by the way to all of these things. Instead, you'll find that all of them are being propagated in the United States right now by different people.
When people when people one person,
one people, different people, also.
He also said that the
punishments laid down in the Quran and the Sunnah, for amputation of the hand for theft, for stoning with over 100 lashes for fornication are barbaric, and suitable only for a primitive society which lacks prison. At one time in the there's a newspaper instead from San Jose, I think it's called the San Jose Mercury News. Recently, about two years ago, there was a leader from an Islamic Center in California, a very famous leader from an Islamic Center in California. He said practically the same thing that we Muslim and he did not believe in those barberries laws that they're applying in phobia and other places.
And he's the leader of his leader is a leader of a market leader will need books and he's a well known and of course, this is probably one of the most important for the for the coupon, said he had his band accept the dire necessity of self defense.
And of course for him, the only thing that was true and similar are those things which are in accordance with 19th century 19th century 19th century science. So therefore he felt the he had to deny, or he did deny the miracle is an existence of angels, of jinn, and the virgin birth of HLA to them.
And actually, not only that, then you can find, by the way, the same kind of things, unfortunately, in the theater in the generation of affiliates of it, you can find almost all the things that he denied the bodily resurrection, and the Day of Judgment, and heaven and hell. And he said, all of them are any simply symbolic and not literal. And your ability to value almost exactly the same things as the states of mind, Heaven and Hell don't exist. They're simply states of mind.
Well, unfortunately, his students had quite a few followers, and quite a few students, one of his students, and one of his followers was fate, Emirati, who wrote a book called the spirits of exam.
And this book, unfortunately,
was one of the first books I read the Afghan became Muslim,
basically.
And he was a Shia, but you'll see Is she on this book.
Because in the book, he talks about the fact that the Quran was written by the prophet Mohammed Salim. And you know, he had a limited intellect at that time. So he did his best, and he did a good job. But Dan is not something that we have to stick to.
Unfortunately, in Egypt, as I said, Egypt was the home of her. And they also did their best to influence and propagate coming from Python itself many times propagate new ideas, this modernistic approach to Islam. And unfortunately, there was many Muslims at that time in Egypt, who fell under the sway of this,
this way of thinking Allah subhanho wa Taala, forgive them all. They had sincere intentions, and they were simply ignorant. Wolfgang, many of them came up with things, which can clearly go against the problem now, for example, talking about the woman in exam, and he basically everything you think is going against the person and he says that this is the new
new Muslim woman.
Coming out Abu unfortunately, also had many dreams, patella metagaming, of running, numerous people, unfortunately in,
in Egypt, many of them coming from us, or were influenced by this way of thinking, and gave Unfortunately, many things that fell on many screens writing, in support of this way of thinking.
Now, basically, this,
this way of thinking that, as I said, in modern times is developed in Europe. And it's even called the Modern School within the Christian church.
If we want to give a definition of what we're talking about, exactly.
And as I said, we can see this and sometimes in the fraud or in the writings on the speeches of some people, although they don't say that explicitly that they believe in this concept. But in reality, this is what their their reply applying
is that modernism and religion is any moment in religion based on the belief that scientific and cultural progress requires a reinterpretation of the traditional teachings of the religion in the light of modern philosophies and knowledge.
So basically, what the thing is it as I mentioned earlier, as time progresses, as cultural progresses, and as we become more civilized, more human,
more advanced than an artist, then we have to go back to the religion and reinterpret all of those teachings in the light of what we now know.
And unfortunately, we're not just talking, by the way, about time.
And it may be for for restricted to actual physical signs and things like that, and may not be as harmful. But as I alluded to earlier, they're going beyond the realm of things that actually the human mind can say this is true or false. For example, about, about woman, nowadays, people arguing that women don't have to wear hijab, but a woman should be able to freely mix with men, or the woman should be able to work. And so for me, this is none of this is based on what you can call science. None of it was and to go through the Quran, and go through the system and reinterpret the Quran is sent in the light of what women are now doing the 20th century, and it is nothing but this is
basically what these people believe. And this is how they approach the
Quran and this is how they approach the suddenness of the problem homosexuality.
And basically also when you think about it, when you think about it, all of these modernist ideologies whether they are Christian or Jewish or Muslim, whatever the source might be, they all reject the idea or the notion
There are some transcendental truths and values that are true false.
true false.
Why remember one time in
insanity?
There was this discussion between
a man and a woman. And the woman is talking about how everything changes. She doesn't think, you know, anything should be the same, you know, values to change. And the man I think, was supposed to dare to just say to me,
you know, even does that mean even value change? He said, Yes, of course, doesn't mean even you change. He said, Yes, of course, everything changes. Except, would you like
to throw that in there? Mashallah, you conclude by saying no, there is some.
But it's that same kind of same kind of thinking, and everything changes values change what was true for the problem, Homicide gentleman, his taharah, what were true during the famine, both mentally, and we cannot say now in the 20th century that these things are true. And in fact, I heard that many, many times, one time, there was an election in the mosque. And they were discussing about whether or not they should allow a woman to run for president.
And one brother, one brother, and he, they were discussing one brother,
man, wake up, this is 2020.
Now this guy is not a philosopher. No, I'm not a philosopher, he doesn't, he's not going to tell you. This is what modernism is all about. But hey, this clearly shows that he is influenced by this idea that now on the 20th century, that's now reinterpret all the brawn of the simnet, and silver.
Well, we can see many examples.
And we can see many examples of cases where speakers, writers, and unfortunate even institutions exist in the United States of propagating this way of thinking, I'll just give one to
anyone. In one case, there was a lecture to show you how extreme and sometimes you can go, there was a lecture by someone who was very famous, and I'm sure if you ask anyone about this manual,
going back to
maybe discussion about maybe there's another term also, besides that, we should
think about the executive assistant. And he gave a lecture at conference, and a Muslim conference
in Central California.
And in this lecture, he said,
and especially by the way, especially when it comes to the seminar, the problem campuses, this is the thing that he tried to attach the most. And as I talked about in the first lecture today, that is mistaken. And the maintenance in the cupboard really attacked the tongue a lot, because the medication took them very minimal,
but confine them by the sooner, and it explains upon and shows us explicitly what the Quran means and how to apply it. So especially the term metabolic syndrome, they don't like the concept as a whole, and especially nowadays, they will try to attack particular areas. And so this person said that the policy
sometimes they had no sign of a funny lecture because he was claiming or he wasn't saying he was, he was pointing from someone who had recently written a book. So you have this famous speaker, quoting from someone who has written in the book about the sooner and if you hear what you what, what you're recording, you'll see that it's like the blind leading the blind. Here's this great book written by someone. So he said, he said, the parser seldom used to make it.
Right.
And he said, Sometimes, I tell him was wrong when he needed to get
to work. For someone.
It's impossible for some,
but it's the next point.
Then he said that we're in the process of the Medici head. And when he was wrong, he can handle the data did not always correct.
So therefore,
we have to go to the center of the problem and try to determine where he was corrected as if they had and where he was incorrect.
What is Danny
and just a few sentences, nice. villages, completely destroyed the place of the cinema. And
on another occasion, and this is even this is probably this is the first one I wish were a little bit extreme. But the second one will give us more and more of their approach towards
one speaker was talking it was a Muslim Christian was a
Muslim Christian dialogue, it was in the crowd and they're talking about the the position of woman in different rooms.
This speaker wants to prove that
a Muslim woman can be a ruler and his
wife said that
Same body.
Same heart is usually a reliable source of hate.
What he said
is that people will not prosper as they are there their affairs on the hands of a woman is they're ruled by a woman that people will not.
So he said, he said, first of all two things.
He said, this was narrated by Abu Bakar
abubaker, according to the size of Hades, this is what he said, is not a typical memory.
of a bucket, if you're familiar with a bucket is one of the companions of the problems.
So I immediately withdraw my books of
direct biographical narratives. In fact, I didn't know how many I had until this
incident to write anyone, anyone who said that will look at as not
an acceptable man.
But he also said that this heading, and if we look at the world today, we'll see that there have been countries where the rulers were women, and they had prospered.
And he pointed out Margaret Thatcher,
Indira Gandhi,
go to my ear,
because you see that this woman had suffered. And it looks as if this definition
of prosperity for
the purposes that amuse the form of the word, Allah, and that includes not only the flow, but also to hear.
Secondly, how we take more of a statue for them. How are you going to say that, that Egypt has a
Freudian slip?
Are you going to say that England, England had blessed under margin?
And how can you say that? What happened to the unemployment rate? When Margaret says, What happened to the rate of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, suicide? These things were disastrous in the mother section.
So how, first of all, how can you put yourself into that situation that you're going to judge had his promises in them, that the scholars have accepted as true faith. And
so he said that he is examples that he is given proves without a doubt that this could not have been stated by the problem.
And he had the feature to the fact that if the Providence said it, it must be true.
But if you go into the body of literature, and you start getting heavy literature on the basis of what you see around you, and even as I said, is not in scientific practice, and not even scientific theory, isn't just somebody looking at magazines and says, Oh, yeah, there was a system. And it was like saying Reagan was an
anti Reagan, you could say, ran into the president, everyone who studied presidents say that Reagan ranked up there was equity, equity.
This is what the people say, but someone could say, hey, was a good president. So they found a Reagan was a bad for the middle, this is a must be a fabricator. And yeah, you get the point that I'm saying that someone has some idea in his mind. And he just used that idea to judge the Quran, and the Hadith and promises to them. It is completely unacceptable, and it is pure, pure none. But that's the whole
trend of this modernist movement that we're seeing. And he, for example, if someone can say that, it's okay for American Muslim women, to marry non Muslim men,
because American Muslim women are different from the women at the time of the prophets, I send them
a gun, whatever they can handle themselves with.
But this is the way this is the way people are approaching the front. This is the way people are posting Hadith of the prophets of Salaam. And unfortunately, it is sometimes this
and is this methodology and this trend that we see in the United States in particular, but actually throughout the Muslim? And if you read for example,
the reason sometimes even a Muslim and Muslim are which should be fairly conservative. And then recently, they given Patel writing, and writing some some people who,
originally, for example, had a three part article and three definitions of image. Now there's a debate in the Muslim world about whether or not Muslim should enter the election into the parliament. It's a big debate. Well, this man went way beyond that he said, is okay for women to enter the parliament parliament and it's okay for women to be mortal.
And even if
you wouldn't expect it, at least not as boldly as you might expect it and say to Magellan isn't what
comes out and is more lizard but especially here in the United States.
Want to breathe? And people sometimes don't realize that they're following that they're falling under the influence of this kind of thinking, and this kind of teaching, but these people, and in danger as a parent, one of the reasons why they're so dangerous is in fact, they are. And I know some people don't like it when I say this, but they are, in fact, another group of adults, there are another
heretical group. And because they will soon, like the modular and available, so are there any basic principles that they build their religion upon, goes against the beliefs and the principles of Allison was you
need to say, for example, that
without any question takes precedence over nothing. And without any question and other big questions over and over, and it is something completely unexpected to face. And that question,
was ready to reject the,
to reject
the Sahaba, for example, which is what many of them do any, if we look at their way of thinking, their complete way of thinking, you'll see that they have their own head, they have their own methodology, they have their own soul. And anytime people begin to have their own methodology and their own principle, historically speaking, that meant that they were from a certain group of
people, whether they were united or not. And if someone in Baghdad might have the same thinking of someone in
Lebanon, they might have no relation between one another, but their principles and teachings are the same, they're categorized has been this formula. And, and, in fact, this group of people, as I said, they are group of as good as all of the
and all of the principals, all the tenants that refer and talk about that applies also to them. Another problem also with them, is that sometimes their arguments are very tricky and very deceiving.
And so therefore, it's easy for Muslims, especially new Muslim, Muslims, who don't read that much press about Islam, it's very easy for them to be fooled, by the way.
And if you take, for example, a new Muslim, someone who just became America Muslim, maybe he used to think, you know, America was, we're in the 20th century in the world leading civilization, through justice in the American way, and all that sort of stuff. And you take someone like that, Muslim three or four months, his idea, perhaps about Islam isn't that strong. And someone comes to him and says, Well, you know, the understanding of the philosophy of the Prophet and the Sahaba,
14 centuries ago, and it's not the correct understanding we are, we are free to, you know, understand and know, and the life that principles know, especially becomes from Christian background, because Christians believe that
Christians can be more hazing, as you can see from that basis, then Christians believe that cancer, so you take a non Muslim, who is maybe already that kind of thinking in his mind, and then you start pumping more into it. And it's sooner or later this person will be rejecting Quran or rejecting Hadees will be winning tripping all verses around the golden.
The, the belief, also, and probably one of the biggest dangers, and one of the most important aspects of this movement is that many people don't even realize this movement exists. And when I say move in, by the way, as I was alluding to earlier, doesn't necessarily have to be organized as this guy in New York is working with that guy in Philadelphia, and was working with that guy in some other place, you know what I mean? movement anymore, the trend. And if people don't realize that this trend, especially in the United States is strong, it is getting stronger, it is spreading, because, and it has certain people pushing behind it. And when sometimes when people speak about it,
when people speak about it and oppose these people who are teaching these things. And it is the people who are speaking about this movement and say that we have to stop this move, or it is these people who are affected. And I talked about this topic many times. And if I, especially if I mentioned I caught many people, especially if I mentioned those people, I am the one who becomes the object of attack.
Someone who thinks about the film he had and he was wrong, and then we have to go and figure out when he was right and wrong. And I'm the one who was the criminal because I quoted him saying that he's wrong.
And it just shows you how, how damaging how unbelievable. The situation has done. And unfortunately, some of these people have become famous
for, let's say,
external reasons.
For example, the
there's one Oriental, he, I forget his name, he compiled this big index of heavy,
heavy terms, you know, you look into the word and find where the head is in me.
Anyways, the thing that he did, take no real knowledge whatsoever. Basically just go to that if you find this word there, you put down
This word is there, you find it there. And
you can train monkeys nowadays to do the same.
What you did wasn't much. But because of this thing, all of a sudden, he became a great scorer, he became a great score in the eyes of your answers, and also in the eyes. And so then he started writing about it.
And then people will accept that you know what you like, the same kind of thing here. Someone was in prison for 10 years in a Muslim country. And he was in prison for 10 years. And he's like, tell me this is given patella to go against exam.
And in other words, they have some loyal following. And they have some backup for some good deeds that they may have done. And may Allah subhanho wa Taala, reward them for their good deeds and forgive their, their mistakes that they're making. But can you cannot build upon what you did and ignore the wrongs that his friend
did, like someone who made Jihad for 20 years in the United States and finally conquered Washington, DC, and then celebrated with champagne.
Champagne.
I mean, this is not that. So we spent 10 years in prison, but what he's saying is pointing is close enough.
But no, people look at these things from their emotions. And they don't realize any of the data that these people are spreading. And when you speak about the danger, you're the ones who will be or you're the person who will be the one who will be
the bad guy.
That we have to be aware of what's going on. And when we read when we hear about new patella
new opinions, when we hear about things that are clear to us, they're going against the understanding of the Quran, and Sunnah as understood in part by the former homicide tenant. And as applied by his the hava cannon, we have to be aware of that, we have to keep an eye on it, we have to tell other people about it to be aware of this opinion, this opinion doesn't seem to be correct, according to the federal seminar. And similarly, at the same time, we also have to take an active role and the same time that they are taking an active role in spreading the new ideas, we have to take an active role
in spreading the criticism of Islam or the Quran and Sunnah. And the Islam that are the problem hundreds of Sahaba were formed by shala by both ways by presenting the positive information and tailoring their negative information, this information long as whatever what they're doing, and inshallah we will
bridge the gap will open many people's eyes who perhaps aren't even realizing how much they've been influenced by by this. And this is a this is a sad thing, and that we have many Muslims. It seems to me from my experience selling around, we have many Muslims, we sell our sincere for the sake of less than democratic data. And they're willing to vote for almost enough if they had been taught and they have been taught over and over again, this void. Bronson is not the way the permanent settlement is Baba. But it is this morning suppose and unfortunately, they've never been exposed maybe to the truth. And so therefore, they do not see the darkness as they are in my shell as we spread the truth
more, as we show clear, gruesome phenomena, and spreading the doubt that came from the from Hans selye. And in this stuff that these people are spreading, it will be wiped away, and only the truth and
Britain's will, will really
during lightning talk.
We have a few more moments. Of course in order to take a few questions answers.
You have approximately
15 minutes or so
to change according to
what.
That's a
very important question.
There are some rulings
that are based really on defensive
defensive tech from Frozen.
And these rolling leveraging
Python today is obligatory five times a day.
If you can pray to any university and inside a handler and this is one of the NEMA one of the blessings that Allah subhanaw taala has given to the Muslim Ummah, that inside is definitive and unchanging is flexible enough to take care of different situations.
But at the same time now, there are some rulings,
which are derived from the front and center in the light of what's happening
under current circumstances. In other words, the culture and the time and the place help in determining that move.
These kinds of warnings may change over time. For example, if someone has more than one way as to what
someone has to eyes,
does he have to have separate, distinct separate quarters for those twice
depends on the cooking,
if it is kosher, and ahead of time and place is acceptable for two women, for example, two wives to be living in one large house, and, and sharing that house and so forth.
And that is something accepted by the culture that time then it is permissible for him to have two wives and have them sharing one large house. But if the closer that time is such that everyone gets their own private residence, then he has to give each life his own priority. So that kind of ruling will change
depending on coaching services, but the times ones the different things, which are based on definitive,
definitive test.
which then
means the testing, or testing can become the custom send can sometimes become almost at the same level as soon as text. So for example, if we have some kind of business dealings here,
let's say like we're both skilled tradesmen
in the United Nation, but let's suppose the two of us I know he's a stupid man outside myself, because we're both skilled tradesmen. And let's say you're me. And there's some common practices in doing making them when we make an agreement, we understand that all those common practices.
So in this case, any red or make those common practices, things that we have to meet. So if I come later, and I say that, or he comes to me later, and he says that I didn't meet one of those things accepted by offer accepted by our particular art, then he has the right to go in front of a judge and say, Look, we made this business contract. And as we know, in our field, this business contract includes different business and economics, just as the same thing normal says,
got to know.
Yes, or no question.
questions in which the answer is already written on the page? Have you seen some layout they have any question they write the answer, I did, make sure I say what I'm supposed to say.
Usually, that comes from organizers of companies
designed to hear
after giving data to the modernist Muslim masons, and they reject the data over and over again, what should we do in this case?
One aspect of Tao is
just because people reject Java doesn't necessarily mean that you, you give up on them. But at the same time, you might take different steps. For example, if someone is you think that he doesn't realize the danger of what he's doing. And you may at the beginning, be very close friend with him and tries to give him some doubt. As you realize that he knows what you're doing and he's refusing to change, then, perhaps your friendship with him changes, he became harsher and harsher, even to the point, you can even get to the point that you don't say.
And if someone is from 100, oppose him.
And you have any you have shown him the wrong or what he's doing.
And you want to impress upon him that the wrong what you're doing is so great that even anything, you're risking our friendship and our brotherhood, and you can even as a method of delegating some things to them. But this is of course, you should do this. After taking wise counsel and thinking about the results of what you'll do because it leads to more harm. Of course, you wouldn't want to do that.
Next one is more or less a three part question.
More or less.
Can you clarify
more who is leading the the modern United States?
Or maybe who are some of
the question is, should I
there's two points of view on this question, and I waver between them a lot.
One is to state everyone who
With, for example, one pointing and so forth, in order to make it clear that this is what this person said.
But sometimes that seems to have almost a
backfiring effect. And sometimes it's better just to leave the name.
And that's the approach I'm following
my opinion next week, someplace else.
Next month is one of the many notions of the modern, everyone should be able to enter the cloud, according to
this is this is one of the one of the coaches and one of the things that
you find the modernists and the Sufi canon, different approaches here, the modernists what they should interpret the plot according to your intellect. And the soup is encrypted according to what your heart says, and destiny
doesn't have the kind of
that kind of thing that their heart is narrating them from God
picked it up from Christians, because Christians are always talking to God.
But the idea of the pharaoh the idea of understanding the Koran, obviously, there's principles involved and is the most obvious thing, which unfortunately, I don't know why some Muslims just can't understand the most obvious thing, even, let's not even talk about the rule, there's something explaining the most obvious thing is to
add an order in which I mentioned 11 times and
what does that mean? That means to really understand and derive derive laws and derive principles and teachings from the clock, you have to go back to the Arabic and you have to know the tools of Arabic.
So any to improve the Puranas question says, there is a basic methodology that you have to quote. And this methodology is not something the latest scholars just came up with. For every one of these principles of methodology contributed by the Quran. The sooner the interpretation of the Sahaba, the Arabic language and so forth, all of them can be proven from the Quran. And it's not from theory, they just sat down throw
around first know, everything of these principles of the methodology
can be proven from the Quran, itself to the throne, and to speak about Allah subhana wa tada without him as we talked about earlier today, this thing is tantamount to equivalences in the skin, as Allah subhana wa tada describes to associating partners with a lesson and with that, so when you talk about the Quran, without the proper background without the proper methodology, without the proper knowledge, you are in fact doing that.
Last one is one of the weapons of
attack.
Oh, that's one of those coupons for
the one day attack the traditional stores, I don't know what they mean by traditional stores, whether they mean stores of the bathroom stores. Nowadays, we're following the way of the setup.
And it is very easy to look at their arguments, what is their what is their criticism? And how to answer this? In most cases, their arguments are very simple and easy to translate doesn't take a restore. I mean, I can refute some of them that doesn't take much to refute there. There are
some unlikely because
yes, I'm sorry.
Yeah,
that's an excellent way to start. They're pretty much
there's not much that separates
a cyclist and money from a model.
And I'll tell you why.
Because the secretary versus
the Secretary of State, let us make our own laws. Mankind has the right to make their own laws. So they come up with all their own laws.
By coincidence, none of those laws may be the same as it could be.
But they say let's make a problem. What to the modernity? Basically, they go to the Crown's in energy and say, well, let's choose what we think is right?
What's the difference between this one just has a much more Islamic flavoring?
And they try to put things in within the seventh, but they're actually Islam a second.
I mean, there are actually people like us who try to Are you from a certain point of view to take realism as Islam.
So when you describe them as cousins, I think that's very, very appropriate. I have to remember that I'll give you credit.
This one is, I, like many of us have come to hate with a passion would have been propagated by the monitor, I'm a temper that hatred and be patient and use wisdom is addressing them or the subject. My question is, however, is why do the people or institutions that should know better, and could affect the muscles in a good way or prevent them falling into
take a stand and even treat those who expose the modernists with harshness, even contempt?
Well,
I think inshallah
what we could call
the doubt, or
any the correct approach to dour under different circumstances.
Unfortunately, there are many people, and many of our dear brothers who have come to a different conclusion than what some other brothers have come closer for, I believe that we should talk about the modernists, what they're saying what they're doing, so that everyone eyes will be open. And when they see this modernist thread coming over the years, someone who's always evolving from a modernist point of view,
life will go off into their hands. And they will know they will know how to deal with it, they'll know how to approach it. Other people feel that it is brothers, it is more or less. And you're mistaken, as good as you're mistaken. Yes, we should deal with them in a different way, by not exposing them necessarily openly, but trying to bring them closer, and become friends with them, basically, have association with them, and bring them closer and try to change them themselves.
Well, I personally don't think that is the best approach because as the sort of said, and is it
for innovation is more Beloved, to shake on then.
And some of them said no one or the the person who did the personal call of heresy, he does not make Toba from him.
Because these people believe and receive the knowledge, the benefit of delta, let us say the GS modernists believe 100% of what they're saying is true and correct.
So it is much more difficult to try to go to them and be nice to them and bring them in, because they believe that what you're doing is correct. And what they're saying right now is that in many cases, I'm convinced that they believe that this is the only salvation for them. And it's not just a matter of business, right? But this is what we need to do for the for the sake of Islam. So it's very difficult to try to go to them and convince them that they're wrong, because this is something that is planted in their heart. And as I said, Danny blades are second more, and he loves them more because these people believe that they're falling.
So that approach to me,
the people who are doing that approach, I pray that they're successful, but historically, what we know about it is not the best approach. The best approach is warn other people about them so that inshallah Lee, they want to stick with me that this is their choice. But let's try to minimize the influence that they have, and other people who might be unaware who might be affected by
further questions.
Thank everyone, for showing up.
For the modernist, I'll show you the modern stupid that is it. We're all brothers let him play with it. That's the modernist
view that you're describing, I think is more than some people think that maybe him by going through the motions of the brain might be affected in some way it would be headed to them. Well, I think yesterday This question was put to one of the
as he says it is not proper to put them in the language.
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