Principles Of Fiqh Part 8

Jamal Zarabozo

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Let me make a correction from last time

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remember last time we had the punishment described in the Quran

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why had how many five

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and someone who's not here today convinced me to put another one

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one

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first of all course in English and intentional homicide doesn't make any sense

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to be involuntary manslaughter

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that's not the point that I want to make what we're discussing a bit then

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I just don't

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want to sit now.

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punishment is and then the brother

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and when I allow myself to be influenced by people I always turn out to be wrong like from the first day

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convince me to put this one on the board. Why is this incorrect?

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Yeah, we were describing the punishment Jenny, what are the punishments describing the father? Or the brother said this one and I unfortunately went along with him.

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What's wrong with it?

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What is the punishment he's saying that this is one of the ones that says had punishment.

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No. What does that have punishment for?

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There is no there is no head. There is no punishment, there's

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quite a difference.

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Okay, so erase the ones that I had I think are five and they are

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the correct ones.

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Okay.

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I'm gonna stand up again.

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Like this, I prefer to

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hold my

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real professional job.

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Danny questions about the Quran before we move on to another topic. Okay, we finished now.

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Some aspects of the Quran as I said, there's lots of other aspects that we're going to discuss, and we're gonna discuss them after we discuss

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this sooner because these aspects apply to both.

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Okay, any questions about

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any of the aspects that we discussed or any other aspects that might

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come to your mind.

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Two, I haven't talked about

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the,

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I was going to mention last time something about the importance of proper procedure. But with respect to any of the aspects of procedure, we will get to later which is

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how to understand the words of the Quran, how to understand the sentences and how how to implement these commands or the sentences. So we'll talk about that later, after we finish

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the introduction to the center. It will take some time.

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Any other questions?

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So Let's now move on shala to soon.

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And I have to admit that this lecture I'm giving today is not the lecture that I was planning on giving today. But

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due to circumstances beyond my control, I was not able to prepare a different lecture.

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This lecture is more from this point of view than from the point of view from from a headache specialist point of view.

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Okay, so the first thing as always, we have to define what's the meaning of the word

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linguistically.

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What's the meaning of the words? Everybody turns to him so whenever we see

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what's the meaning of the words in English

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road

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Okay, that

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is this.

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way faster way.

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Way to people isn't necessarily good.

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Okay, so it's the pathway which could be good or bad.

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That's the linguistic meaning.

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Obviously, that's not the meaning that we're interested.

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But it gives you an idea of how the how the word develops.

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In other words, from a philosophical point of view, what we'll do is we'll narrow this down to be the path of the problem.

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And how can we define?

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Okay?

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After seeing

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the profit.

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Okay, what did you say?

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Okay.

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Okay, now the reports

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the reports of the actions, the things that the Prophet says that is not the same thing as soon as

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the reports are, how we, how we narrate what he did, those are called heavy

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daddies are the reports of the sons.

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All reports regarding distance.

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So not the same thing, as

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Okay, so in other words, when you just talk about the center of the ball,

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and specifically, you're actually not talking about reports, but you're talking about actually what he did. Or said in this case.

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Let me put it this way, the student existed long time before anyone reported.

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That, so as soon as it's a different existence,

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some people are closing.

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And scholars assume that some people are just causing headaches.

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Some people are just causing

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a medic was called mm in tune. And if you saw it,

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it means that you're an expert at studying the different reports and verifying What are correct and what aren't.

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If you're golden, it means that you're a scholar and the actions or the guidance of the focus. Which means in this case, actually,

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if you're a score of seven, that means actually your puppy

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comes in late with a big smile on his face. how can how can we get medicine

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so if you're a school, if your score of the Sun naturally that means your puppy?

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You guessed it, because you might be in the way of the camera when I

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was sticking with her definition. So far, this good.

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habit, by the way, was not in the healthiest class so that the rest of you should be embarrassed that he's coming up with this. We're all just sitting quiet.

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Now. Okay, so he's adding another one.

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That's approval.

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So you're saying it's the actual sales and tacit approval of the product?

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Not always say, this was wrong.

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Last time, you said this is one of the dude.

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This was this is.

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Well, I wrote it.

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Okay.

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So now you all know who convinced me of it.

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Any questions about this? Everyone except this?

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Remember, I said that the definition

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I kept stressing this definition should include everything that's supposed to include

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and exclude everything that should be excluded and there should not be any superfluous or extraneous

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material.

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So how are we doing so far?

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Okay, he says

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Any other guesses?

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The opposite.

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He thinks test his disapproval

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as part and in the definition of some axing tacit approval and test to disprove what is a test this is approval

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or what is it says disapproval and a tested approval means what?

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Yeah I know that

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doesn't mean something happens in front of you and you don't object to it

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what is the test of disapproval

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doesn't seem to make much sense.

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Danny is not ready to study any but you just allow the thing to

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Yeah, the whole thing is to

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test again you do not stay okay for example, Hurricane Lee you do not stay current

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you do not state that hurricane right this is good. But at the same time you don't say anything that this is wrong. So it means you're approved.

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Now with respect to the political and that's true, because the public has done them and he cannot see one cannot state anything.

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If somebody

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does not happen

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it means you didn't do anything.

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It's okay because we're gonna end up getting rid of this one off

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first of all, this is

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exactly

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what the public is.

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And it is supposed to sell himself something which is wrong because his obligation to say this is wrong he cannot

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cannot approve of it.

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And if that's true with respect to the problem

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and if he approves it therefore this is circular reasoning.

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If you proved it therefore means it must not be wrong.

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Hey, Bob with us.

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Now again, it depends on it depends actually on how we're looking at the topic.

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If we're looking at the topic from the point of view of magic, we're score of Hades.

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Okay, those of you from the Heidi's class what did we say last year is the definition of finance from the point of view of the magic First of all, how is he looking at swimming?

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goes back this is only related to what you said but reports How is the magic looking at what is his

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way of looking at things his point of view What is he trying to do?

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Okay, that's after he collects what which is

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the hobbies which contain what

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contains them okay.

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So classic acts of the Prophet

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things and deposits.

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A test disapprovals into people are insisting on this one.

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That's an approval of the pocket whatever they are interested in anything that is related from the public.

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His characteristics

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both what

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both natural or physical.

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And

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personal Oh, he's cheating.

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Okay.

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So from the managers point of view, what they're trying to look at is anything that is related from the past.

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So they include all of these things as part of sitting there for this definition. x deposits are seldom sayings of the Prophet

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tested approvals and of course test the disapproval.

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Characteristic both natural person what we mean by this characteristics

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both natural and personal.

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For example, if you have something related about how tall the prophet SAW Selim was, how did he walk? What color was his hair? What color was his beard?

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What kind of things what kind of foods that he liked? And not like all of these things are considered similar from the point of view of the mahadevi. Team.

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Okay, but now we're in a different course. Now, some of us.

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Some of us haven't graduated from

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a different course. And then now,

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Danny, our point is, a point is what are what are we trying to see him?

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What's the definition of

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we have some guests from Denver. So don't embarrass me by

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now we want to look at the sooner from a different perspective, we want to look at the sun net as a source of law.

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As well as

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we want to look at the sun as a source of law.

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So looking at the sun as a source of law, this is going to affect our definition of,

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for example, this is not acceptable to us.

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Why?

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Because it's personal.

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To put on the board, so first,

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but you mean by personal.

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So your point is, I'm going to continue your I mean, this is obviously your point, your point is that these things are not sources of law, right?

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Now the word just because the Bible says lm had black hair, for example, doesn't mean that we should have black hair right. So, that is just just your point that these things are not sources of law. So from our point of view, these things cannot be considered or we do not included in the definition of some

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could feel actually what

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no

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more characteristics also,

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they will not be included as part of the seminar any from this perspective, but but from this perspective.

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In other words, here, we're talking about specific personal characteristics, which are not part of the law, which he had, which are not actually part of the law.

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Anything else we should drop from here? from that point of view?

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Okay.

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I say yes.

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It's still too general.

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No tacit approval, tacit approval should be removed, but for different reasons. Why should test approval be removed?

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Number definitions should include everything that needs to be included, should exclude everything that doesn't belong. And it should not be anything extraneous to support gross or redundant or redundant or redundant.

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Okay, it is an F

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and E not doing something as an act.

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So therefore, when we say accept things as a problem, Homicide send them we have included everything we need.

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Okay, now, most of the books that will soon be defined, they will include this,

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but it's not very good.

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Danny says an act of the Prophet says that this is one of his acts. So it's already covered.

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It does

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not doing something as an action.

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What's an action?

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An act okay. My actions

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are really getting really getting philosophical.

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Even in Arabic, and it is a tacit approval.

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Yeah, this is a type of a type of action. He did not show disapproval.

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Even their

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behavior. No.

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Because

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someone does something in front of me

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and I do not

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rejected then what have I done?

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I have passively approved right that is an action. So it says activities and promises

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okay. And more importantly when we get into more details this is this is really have to be considered part of the action of the process element has to be considered for dealt with as an act.

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So, if you like Mohammed here, you can just erase it from the difference

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instead of rewriting the definition just erase Okay, what else? Still it still it's too general

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x only x

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Okay, that's too That's too deep

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we'll ignore that for now.

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What else is it? Again we're talking about from a sole point of view

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Okay, you're getting there?

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No, I don't think so.

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Okay, yeah, you're getting you're getting to the you're getting there.

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So, the things

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that are related

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to the Sharia

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and particularly the acts of the public

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there are many acts

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many actions

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to perform which are not considered

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part of the Sharia

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In other words, and we'll discuss this more in more detail inshallah, the actions of the promises galvano

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that okay.

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So, here we have album Have you seen

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here we have self driving cars Assouline here

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the point of view

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and of course, this is not to be confused with how the football or the jury defines

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the jurist they looking at something from a completely different point of view.

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They are and if you go back to the linguistic meanings is a synonym means the path or the way they are looking for the the way of the promises in them

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that

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just good for the people to follow.

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And they distinguish between those actions that everyone must do obligatory geese, and those actions which are simply permissible to do

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or those actions which are encouraged or considered preferable to do. So the jurists they have a completely different way of looking at it for them, send them into

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English

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please, okay, not obligatory,

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not obligatory, but

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more than simply permissible.

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Recommended or preferable?

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Incorrect verbal.

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They don't know how to spell it.

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Okay.

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But

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know when they use the when they use the term center, they are now talking about specific acts. Regardless of

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they're not talking about particular hobbies, they're talking about particular acts. And then the jurors what they want to say their goal is to say whether an act is obligatory or forbidden or permissible or dislike or

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now there's lots of other terms that they use which have a close meaning to this.

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But some of them are the the distinguish between them. For example, most to have

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Or what a beloved actress in the

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Netherlands.

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All of these terms are pretty much similar meanings.

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Okay?

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Now if as a handout

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he's been cheating from

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the covers these three different ways of looking at the terms

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and the different meanings. Now you notice that the handout which is from last year's class, has

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had the mistake

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from last year.

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But if you remember last year, my printer wasn't working properly. So there was lots of garbage on the page this year is

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this clip, we see a copy of this.

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Okay, if you look at the if you look at the definition under legal theorists,

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look at the definition and the legal theorists, you see that

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I included tested approvals. Again, this doesn't need to be there.

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And I also did not

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specify that we're talking about the x

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instead of things which are related to the, to the to the Sharia.

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For the sector magazine, again, it doesn't matter whether the X is related to the city or not all of it, because

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it's so you have to distinguish the three meanings.

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In order not to get not to get confused.

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I included that

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because this idea I just got from a book from Mohammed Lasker, his PhD dissertation, in which she argues convincingly that there's no reason to include this as part of x. So I did not correct.

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Adams wants to go that's

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the because it's up to the fact that he said something that has mean it is the meaning of the statement.

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That's important thing to the act is the actual just speaking, but what we're interested in is what he said.

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So you have to distinguish between act and

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welcome to philosophy 101.

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Any questions about the now just the definition of cinema and what in this course we are trying to get to? Okay, we're not interested in this course. And just anything that is recorded from the

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like we're

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also interested in just simply what is

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recommended x where we're just simply we want to study the cinema from the point of view of what

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is a source of love.

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Okay, any questions before we move on?

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So what about the the historical development

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of the place of Suna and Islam

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stoeckel development of the place of soon and Islam

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the argument of many of the mistakes definitely.

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Especially the older mister should have been the orientalist the non Muslims writing about yourself.

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And

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you should be familiar with the fact that the non Muslims who write about Islam, they have a tendency to change their approaches sometime.

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And the reason it's it's important sometimes to discuss their views is that unfortunately, their arguments

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as fallacious as they may be, sometimes we find them among the Muslims themselves. And either the arguments of the moustache the pain, or the non Muslims writing about Islam. Sometimes you find Muslims themselves they just heard they just pick up this argument that sounds good and therefore they repeat it

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or they try to reply to it

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and not very strong manner.

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So some of the arguments of the recession have been you will find them being repeated by Muslims.

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Their argument for the effects of the sun, does anyone have an idea?

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What did they claim about some of the processes?

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Okay, they claimed that it wasn't recording authentic manner, but that's something we discussed the other course I'm now

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From the point of view again, what did they say was

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close.

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Again that

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there they claim that the sun now was not considered a source of law

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in the early period

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they claim that it was not considered a source of law in the early period that it became important many years later, especially during the time of the membership. And remember, we discussed what was his most important arguments, and then that's related to another argument that if it wasn't important in the early years, then no one bothered to record it. So, in later years, they pretty much had to make up the head.

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And the two arguments are are related.

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So they argued that in fact, in the early years, it was not considered important.

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And the Sahaba they did not consider it important to focus into the province of

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the people after them. In fact, they just use some the meanings as a way of, for example, if there's a mayor or leader of Medina, and he establishes a law that we'll call it Swindon, according to them.

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And he replied to that, and one of their one of their proofs.

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One of their proofs is that the sooner this term

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meaning the Sunnah of the Prophet

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meaning specifically the son of the Prophet.

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This was a much later development.

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Okay, this is this is some that was general term meaning, the way people followed and whatever people thought was considered good regardless of where they came from the puppet or not. And then some of them claimed that it was the manager who said no, the sooner has to be the son of the Prophet.

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Okay, any

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any response to that?

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Just

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like what

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have you been? What's the public sentiment specifically? described described his way as I use the word sin.

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Okay.

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Okay. For example, there's a Hadith of the Prophet said, Tell him that he left us two things and as long as we follow them, we'll never be misguided. The Quran or the book of Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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Okay, or my son.

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Okay, so so the term,

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some now referring to the son of the pope doesn't exist.

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The reply to that is this still, though it still wasn't used being used explicitly just for the sake of the public system?

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other words, yes, there was some concepts as soon as the Father says that, and sometimes the sister in law, but sometimes also they use similar for the axes of a bucket or Homer.

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So what's the reply to that?

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Without knowing what they are doing what I'm especially arguing, yes, you might find some references

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as being the center of the pharmacist and then but at the same time, it's still,

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as soon as as soon as the Father says Selim did not take on its importance until much later,

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as calling it to some

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see, they are stressing this point. They're saying that you look in many of the early writings, you don't find that much reference to send out the promises and

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just with the Samsung.

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That's the point that this

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and what's the answer to that?

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Wonderful point.

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Now, can you find a few?

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So find a few, but they say that even though you'll find a few will find many words in the US in general.

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Then we're talking about now the Thomson net. And considering it's the second source as using the Thomson

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The point is even just jumping to some of the Coronavirus in Gianni as part of their arguments it looks from the mean actions of anyone and anyone can be pulled.

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So that's that's the point that it's actions of anyone and therefore did not become important

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to follow the sooner the problem has has the limb and

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The word soon as you just said sooner, it did not mean this one of the problems until much later.

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No, this was your thing, that thing even

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now, even as soon as they're saying, and they bring the evidence that it did not mean that's another problem.

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Sooner sometimes even refers to the practices of the herbs from the Thames Jamia?

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What's the? What's the response?

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What's their point? They're trying to show that that

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the fruit now first of all is not binding.

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First of all, the sun is not binding. They like this idea. Because if you divorce sooner from the Quran,

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then you leave the Koran open to almost any interpretation.

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And therefore all of these Western ideas could be pushed into into Islam. That's the first point. Second point, they want to prove also, therefore that the sinner wasn't preserved from the earliest. And what we have as Hades is old fabrication.

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So sooner isn't the source of law number one and also wasn't preserved?

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The answer to that is what?

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I think

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the answer to that

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is that who cares when the worst thing that was being applied to similar departments?

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Not important is terminology.

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Not important when this term specifically mentioned above,

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the important thing is that if we study the early years, was the sooner considered the source of law? And did people follow the sooner and put it above any other source? That's the important thing. So in other words, again, from the most special thing, we have strawman arguments.

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We remember we discussed this, I think the first the second day of class standpoint, I think I'll put on the final What's the meaning of a straw man. And they are building up a big argument here, which actually has no relevance.

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The important thing is, what role did the senator regardless of even if they didn't even call us and Okay, what role did it play from the earlier? That's important?

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So we change the question and say, What role did this play from the earlier did it play the role as a source of law? What's the incident? And what's the poop?

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Get the answers? Yes. And what's the proof?

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Okay, we have vs. Statements at the bottom hand, pointing to the importance of this and the more importantly, we have from the time that the other

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you studied for example of a book, The first Aliza it is recorded that abubaker whenever he has to make a decision about something, what would he do?

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First,

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goes to the book of Allah Second.

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Okay, etc. The part is an important, raw.

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Same thing. Okay. So the point is that from the beginning of Islam, the Sunni that had its place, regardless of whether they use them in a general sense, or send them meaning, as soon as a problem comes. Over time, the sooner the worst thing that became to me that the sooner the bonuses, if you met some other Sunday, you'd have to say,

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You met the sooner voila, you have to say the cinema you met, the sooner

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you have to say, it began to mean just as soon as Batman, but that is not important. Important thing is that from the beginning, the sun played its role that it was still playing today.

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Okay.

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And a question about that point.

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And that response to them, especially

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that clear,

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okay. Now, the reason as I said, the reason I mentioned it is because I can show you books written by Muslims,

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that when they come to a haggis that they don't

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particularly want to follow, they bring up some of these arguments.

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Or they want to, for example, implement the new laws.

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First, or make a new kind of ruling that doesn't seem to be consistent with the sooner

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they start bringing these arguments sometimes in a very small

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over time.

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For example, some some books talking about written by some women from the Middle East, talking about the job and so forth. And he decided to make also this, this kind of argument, and the source of it is from the mistakes of Queen or the non Muslims writing about Islam and the essence of it is the fact that argument makes no sense. I mean, this is not a valid argument. Regardless of when the word sin began to mean the Sunnah of the Prophet cillum. It had always played its role as a second source of Sharia

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And of course,

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well, when I asked you people even say

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I mean it.

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So

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the problem is sometimes people get caught up in words, what they're trying to show, what they tried to show by being quotes from the early years, is that as soon as anybody was equal to the son of the Prophet, that's what they're trying to show. If the mayor of Medina lay down a lot was called sin. So they're trying to say look at the center of anyone was equal to the Son of the Father,

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being the son of the Prophet Mohammed is no different from what any Muslim or minister had to say. So for anyone today wants to say something that goes against the sooner, that's okay, because actually, this is a bit of this idea of

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an innovation.

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Yes.

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They claim

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that obviously, before for this argument,

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he couldn't be true. It's like what I told you before, if you go to the Quran, you don't find any good. People for this argument, you cannot be

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details of

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those things. They don't care that much. Because their point is, these things are related to

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the ritual acts, and they don't care too much faster.

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How do they like that guy? Right?

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Remember, the first one you gave me? That's in phase one?

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These kind of arguments.

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I mean, arguments which have no sense of them whatsoever, but people who are not trained or people who do not read people who just grew up as Muslim, without even having to have any, any idea what Islam is about.

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Question.

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Okay, now, the next question is what makes this now a source of law?

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What is the proof? Let's assume that is a source of law.

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Okay.

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I think I'll sit down.

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And if he if we talked a little bit before about who, who rejects some aspects of this.

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Historically, have there been people who reject the sun as a source of law and Islam?

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Like

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some of the some of the more stringent groups, they reject the sun as a source of law. Why?

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Why do you think

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because they do not consider the hover companions as being trustworthy or acceptable. That's one way to look at it. What is the more pessimistic way of looking at?

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pessimistic wave?

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pessimistic way and if we wanted to, for example, say something negative about this year?

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Yeah. No, because as soon as the prophets I send them as is confirmed, from this, the hub Oh, they don't accept that it goes clearly against what they believe.

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Or they have lots of

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next semester,

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next semester,

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so the only way they can avoid that, avoid those

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is by rejecting some

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of the many

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interpretations

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or

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no

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one

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alive

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As Evan kamya once wrote, wrote me there is no scholar to scholar of Islam, whoever intentionally did not progress

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towards the sun exists. And we do our best to try to determine what is the sun Empire he had, for example, if we do not have enough knowledge, or we don't know the relevant hedges, we may come up to a conclusion come up with a conclusion that goes against the signal. But obviously, that wasn't our intent.

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So rejecting the sin as a source of law is much different from coming up with a conclusion that contradicts isn't

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it because there could be reasons or obstacles to keep you from coming up with the right conclusion.

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So for example of a Honey Hole in America, or mmcf, a, Bob, Honey, what's the other one?

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Any, and all all of these former that have your fine opinions that go against this,

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I can assure you.

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But it was never their intention ever to go against

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another group that greatly doubted

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worthy maatregelen.

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And their argument about the center was what

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they remember we discussed the coverage and the some of them that basically what was their argument?

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Danny in general, some of them said that they do not deny the sun. But they do not believe that the sun has been passed on.

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In other words, they are denying the authenticity of Hades.

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Now there's a third group and that's of course, we would study that and the other course

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the third group, which would be maybe the modern democracy or the modernists

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and today do not deny and this is much dangerous than what the old methods allow us to do.

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Okay, they do not deny that the sum has been preserved.

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But at the same time, they feel free to reject some of the heaviest of the processes that have been confirmed.

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And to give one

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classic example,

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that probably most of you heard before, is the person who says about the Hadith of the fly.

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The publicist

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said that supply enters your drink,

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then poured in completely or pushed in completely because one wing of the fly has disease and the other wing has an attitude.

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What is this headache has been proven recently in England, to be scientifically, scientifically true. But as I mentioned earlier, with respect to

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rational and transmitted evidences after Leo unclear,

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and nopalea or the transmitted evidences, there's no they are not in need of rational evidence to support otherwise, it's our obligation to believe in them, and to fly them as long as we can confirm that they have come from the problem.

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What this person said, was well known.

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He said that on this matter, I prefer to follow a Catholic doctor than for the problem amateurism

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and in this kind of approach to this and they said, it's a modern day. vasila is well known.

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If I tell you, someone might try to cut my hair off, tomorrow or the day after, so there's no need to worry.

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Now

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here's another one of the people who saw it with his eyes. Well, some people when I heard this, they claimed that it is not true. The person never said it. Again, it is well known. And it is kind of modern day Mozilla is very much worse than the older

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and they are neglecting really the importance of the Sun now that it can be derived from the Quran itself. Well, there's another group

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or another group of people who call themselves what

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karate people are put on

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now.

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Funny.

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He wants to put everyone in trouble.

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Okay, some of them exist. Some of them exist in the United States. Okay, they're not very vocal. But one of the one of the groups that believed in this before the leader claimed to be a prophet, or messenger was the Russian hollyford group.

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halifa became the one who came up with a miracle 19

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which is another another lecture,

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the miracle of the so called

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the so called miracle of 19, day to night, the sinner. Okay, why would one sent to one of their conventions?

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And I discussed with some of them This was before he claimed to be messenger.

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So I asked him some questions. For example, I said, as your

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as you pointed out earlier, I said, What do you get up from the prayer because they're very similar.

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What do you think the answer was?

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Similarly, similarly to our

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language.

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What what you as you said, if you're just going by the Quran

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there's no way you can know how to pray.

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And this manner, what was the answer?

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Yes, they said, this is the prayer coming from Abraham not from the province.

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This is Yeah, this is the interesting thing. They This means that they follow the certain of your Brahim but they reject the sin of the problem.

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And shall as we'll show shortly

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that there is no way you can follow the Quran without following the sin of the problems.

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Okay, we'll demonstrate that shortly. So obviously now when you're debating with people like that,

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who have some doubts also in Malaysia, there's someone who is rejecting this in Africa Does

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anyone know?

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For me,

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basically just saying this, the sooner is not something that needs to be applied, you only apply the Quran

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you know, some articles now about three or four years already.

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And of course, these people who have these kinds of ideas are strongly supported by the non Muslims and them specifically.

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Now, obviously, if you're debating with these kinds of people, as they said, you cannot bring in support of your arguments, right?

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They don't support the sin so you can't bring it as a baby. So you have to bring it on okay. And also from a certain point of view,

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from associates point of view and once be sufficient also, perhaps we could say, it would not be sufficient and it just to be added to the publishers dilemma until we establish what

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until we establish what

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its authenticity, obviously, that's good.

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Now,

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as we said in

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the hackamore, the ruler, the one who lays down was not the problem.

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The authority is a lesson hidden with dad. So even the father of

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his store his authority rests upon proof of authority from Allah subhana wa Tada.

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So, let us inshallah discuss now from the Quran

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simply from the front.

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You wake up to bother him and you couldn't stay sleeping.

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Unless the magazine

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but what are some of the verses of the Quran that point to the

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authority of the sun?

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Don't look into reading it.

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Now

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Okay, this is a little tip No, no, give it an English

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whatever the topic

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or whatever he forbids, you should abstain from thinking, Okay, what's the response to that? I claim that that is not a valid proof.

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I claim this is really now in English we say the devil's advocate This is really now the devil's advocate.

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I guess you don't want me to bang on the table was nice.

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So what was what what was that verse revealed about?

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Jewish and talking about the spoils of war. Whatever the polycephalum gives you all the spoils of war, you may take whatever he doesn't give you of the spoils of war. You may not take

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this or this is a counselor.

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To CounterPoint.

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Your response to

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the wording of the versus general. There's nothing that can specify it to me that it is simply just referring to

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the spoils of war. But this is the way that some of the most special, clean argue, they talk about truths of the sooner the authority has descended from the Quran. And they'll bring specific verses that they can refute, or they think they can. This is one of the verses they'll bring in. That's one of the ways that they refuse. And they'll just end due course, leaving the person to think that oh, this verse doesn't apply. But of course, it does apply. The meaning is general. And it has nothing in the wording of that verse. To make it mean, just the spoils of war. It was another verse.

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The wording is general.

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Yeah, but the, the specific specificity

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of the occasion, cannot nail down the ruling if the ruling is general.

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And in other words, there's many verses that came down. After specific occasions.

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Sometimes it verses came down with specific rules.

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Sometimes it came down in a general way, but they came down in a general way It means it applies to everything.

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separately.

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There was another proof of the

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Okay, which was in particular.

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Yeah, there's no complete verse for saying that.

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Okay.

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This verse says, Oh, you will believe obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and those in authority among you. And also the rest of resources.

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If you different anything that refer to online as messenger, if,

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if you're truly believers in Allah,

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and

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this verse, first of all, uses the verb to obey only twice,

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before Allah subhana wa tada and before the messenger

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before it doesn't say obey again.

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Because the obedience to the commander's or to the people in authority is subservient to the obedience almost no task.

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So in this verse, Allah subhanaw, taala only shows up

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and does not repeat it or obey in front of the people in authority, meaning that it is independent

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source that you have to obey the law you have to obey them, while those in authority is conditional upon their obedience to Allah. And the verse continues,

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that if there is any doubt, if you have any disputes about any matter, then you have to refer to the two sources, Quran or two Allah subhana wa Tada. Which of this means means to the book of Allah, or to the messenger, which means while he was alive means take it

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and after that means take it to what he decided. If you're truly believers and align and so this means that the true believers in Allah and the Last Day will follow Allah and

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what else?

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Okay, that is the proof if you put it maybe with some other

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doubt and many verses in the Quran, maybe it was six knife, how many?

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Six or seven verses Allah subhanho wa Taala talks about giving the messenger as the tab was Hickman that almost reveal to the messenger to tell what

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the book and

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wisdom some of them are fostering they

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some relatable suffering, they said hokhmah here means wisdom.

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And he

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was given wisdom

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and he was white.

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But this verse that lactaid read contradictions, because what does this verse say?

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Yes, in English.

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General give us the meaning. Okay.

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Okay.

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So this was the command

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To home first of all,

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no, it wasn't it was a command to the wisest element and the rest of the women to any one of their houses they should remember and mentioned, what has been given or revealed and,

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and here this means that it cannot be just wisdom to talk about something specific, something specific that they used to read over while in their house. And as the seller, the seller says the early scholars, all of them said Mm hmm. He said, that all of the scholars that I know all the people that have entered this I know, they said that hekla means the pseudonym. For this is proof that the sooner is a revelation from Allah subhanho wa Taala. It is a revelation from Allah subhana wa Tada. So it is its authority again lies with

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that is an important point, from the point of view of listen to what others

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dismiss this verse in English

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that essentially are here for less than a year with will excuse me.

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This verse

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says that the publisher

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does not speak from his own desires.

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And it is simply a revelation from Allah subhanho wa Taala. What is the response from this verse?

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Yes.

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And in this verse, the second verse is in hola Illa What do you have?

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What is

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the premier or the pronoun here? Who was referring to what?

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Okay, many of them are factoring. Many of them are factoring they take the store as a whole like

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the store as a whole

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and then the soda as a whole is refuting the claim of the mushrikeen the policy is that

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the Quran is not from Allah subhana wa Tada.

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So they say that who are here refers to Quran only.

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And many of them are possibly including

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many of the other Muslims that English say that it means that anything that promises and instead is a revelation.

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It doesn't matter which is correct, because we have other proof. For example hekla we know that it's a revelation. So regardless of what one means, here, whether it is just referring to the Quran

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and don't argue with me about this afterwards because this is what's the most messalina saying look to me. I know someone after class is going to come to me in fact to prove to me that who are here means

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that government is not to decide to do it.

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That's why I expect someone else to come, come later. Okay, so regardless of whether that refers to Quran only or the Quran and the Sunnah, it doesn't matter because we have other proofs that the Son has revelation. There was another proof

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Okay, and this verse, dad is telling them to tell the people that if you truly love Allah subhana wa tada then you must follow me

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which could which means that anyone who claims to lower law must call the problem

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any other versus

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these two

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if you followed the problem homicides enum you will be good. Anything else?

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Any there's not many very strong. For example, this one

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says what?

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data swears by your Lord.

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Gianni a strong, swearing

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swears by your Lord that they are not true believers until they accept them as the decider of the affairs among them.

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What about the other verse that begins? mechanically Meanwhile,

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this verse

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will

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tell you this verse clearly says that it is not becoming a believing man or believing woman. Therefore law and messenger for the messenger should decide anything that they should have any say in the matter.

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And whoever disobeys Allah subhana wa Tada.

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As messenger has clearly gone astray, it should be too quick two sheets.

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One says table 2.1 shows you what book this

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shows you clearly this is

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From the headquarters not from

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this is a this is a part of my book authority textbook for the book. See the book is eight and a half by five

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a number of verses that can you prove the scenario or the place of

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an exam we didn't go over all of them

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and we will not go over all of them

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I think you can read them read them on your own. Now there are some people now go to the Quran and they bring some verses that prove that the Sunnah is not the source of love

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there's some people who go to the Quran and in the Quran is the source now we have proven oh we have we think we have proven from the Quran is the sin as a source of law. There are other people like these chronic pain or chronic people who go to the bar and try to prove from the Quran

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that the sun is not a source of law and in particular

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they choose to versus

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what are the verses from the Quran that prove prove now supposedly prove

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that the sooner is not a source of law

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but you should know you should know their arguments

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and you should know how to respond to the more important

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so you're excused from noise

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hopefully that

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most of us

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Greg was speaking while holding the mic

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actually I'm just giving I'm just kind of stalling giving up so it's time to show the

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show this before we move on.

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Okay, go ahead.

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So when we say we're following this we know we're not claiming to to worship the Prophet Muhammad although Russia halifa causes Mohammed in saying that we worship the Prophet Mohammed but this is Yanni This is okay.

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This is not we're not taking him very seriously.

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But what is is a verse in the Quran for example, that gives you the idea that there is nothing besides the parameter you need to follow.

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Yesterday

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Not today earlier in

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class,

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there's no person around for example that says everything you need is in the Quran.

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Okay.

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And we have not left anything out of the book.

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So if that's the case,

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then what does there's no need for the Sunnah

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of the Prophet.

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Response response. Yes.

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Okay.

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If everything is wrong, what you need to send that to explain

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everything is in the Quran.

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According

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to the graph,

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don't know exactly how to answer that

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question. I wouldn't call it the dictionary.

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Okay, okay. Like, like implementation in the explanation. But again, the question is, yes, everything is in the book. Nothing has been left out of the book. What What do you need? First of all, what what anyone know the beginning of this verse? What this verse is talking about?

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Mom and Dad

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Okay, the only the the verse is actually talking about

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there is no there is no creature on the earth

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or there is no bird that flies with between except they are

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or

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nation similar to you. And we have not left anything on the books.

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Okay, this book, according to the strongest Danny commentaries

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and in this deep dive in this book and this verse maharatna

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is not referring to

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it's referring to lock, lock

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and preserve.

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And what, why even if it was referring to the Quran, if Allah subhanho wa Taala didn't leave anything out of the Quran, we accept that because it's Allah in the Quran says you have to follow the Prophet.

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And he does this part of the Quran. So even if it's referring to the Quran, which I say it's not, it is almost an afterthought It is part of not leaving anything on the cover or just for the prognosis.

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Okay, what's another verse

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have to

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the second point is this is this book, and if nothing has been left out of this book,

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and it doesn't mean necessarily that every point has to be included in the book, but it points to or command you to where you find everything. So in other words, this is the Quran itself, part of that book telling us to follow the sun.

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What's another

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verse that could be used?

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Now?

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What are we talking about?

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Well, what's another verse that could be used as a probe? That isn't there's not a source.

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I see people from the heavies get

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real good numbers.

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This was the only class that we had on the CU Boulder campus, maybe this will spark your memory. Remember that night

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in this room, and the storyteller is not many districts,

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we took that we took down the support the troops saying,

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Angela, we are in this room.

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Because in your house living here, your house next door neighbor, Claudia and

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Malaika entering your house

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has a different color.

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palette, this one is an advocacy tab

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to be any liquidity.

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Again, same kind of thing, what does reverse mean?

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What does reverse means that transition

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and that we have revealed the Book

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which

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to be

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clarified, clarifies and clarifies.

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Again, the same argument applies This is again the Quran that tells us to follow this and so therefore, part of the clarification

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of the of the Quran is the command to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet.

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So now we have proven from the park itself. And we have repeatedly refuted

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those arguments from the Quran

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that deny that the sun is the source of light, therefore we have to conclude

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as soon as possible. And now after this, we could go into a Hadith of the prophets of Salaam

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that prove that those sorts of law are the things but that is not necessary. And it is no need for us to do.

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Because we have already proven and regardless of the heavy set of promises,

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what the public system said about his own center, we have already proven that, in fact, the sun is the source of love. Now one thing that we want to get into

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I'm not going to discuss the

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the roles of the prophets. I send them with respect to the Quran, for example, and so on. But there's one other topic that we have to get into.

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We'll skip those topics we can go during the Hadoop class. So you can ask Othman for the tape of that,

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of that lecture.

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Just I was just mentioning him and the roles of the politician was to interpret the Quran which gave its proper meaning

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was as independent source of law was as a model of behavior and as a recipient of obedience

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but can

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Next point that we have to discuss.

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Maybe I'll just, I'll just mention in move to jela we'll discuss next time

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is

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very happy to let you go early today.

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Given that the sun is the source of law,

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as proven by the Quran, is it the case that the Quran and Sunnah are to be taken equally?

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Or is the Quran given preference over the sinner?

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Was the sinner given preference over the Quran?

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Same day

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the complementation which means what?

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They are equal

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and you could have complimentary things that one is superior to the other. So most of that is trying to avoid the question.

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Tab

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that's the second question now.

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Is there some some deposits I send them

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that there's no source port in the Koran

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or no wasn't that heavy belongs to and could possibly contradict the Quran?

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Allah was think of those questions next time.