Channel: Jamal Zarabozo
Anyways, the final takeaways I can give that to
just think logically but I'm sure if you think logically alone we come up with for
the other boy you cannot think
okay now now we're talking about by the way
use to differentiate between
This is not the time that you do not take it from
me this is like for example
you might mention a heavy or
someone might come to him and ask a question
if you if you if you will take this headache from him at that time you have to mention it. And it was something that
he used to have formal ways of passing on
formal sessions in which they used to pass on so this is kind of
like what you mentioned evergreen would not be considered a form of way of
well I'll give you the first one then next year
you can figure out what the next one is for the ship or the
score added to to read to the students
chat with attending a call that
you been reading
any of the students here I'll make it even easier the students here's the heavy from the
will discuss more in more detail
because I want to see how much you can get logically
the only one you can Good luck
pretty hot and we've been
not quite that that's not quite healthy. Is
that a formal way of putting it like if you're right handed to someone?
Just want to see how many have come up with what
the no one has written.
from student to teacher like what
this is the students read the teachers heading back to the teacher
what would you call it?
also has another name.
is one of the students.
just don't see how many
they are reading from a book.
One of them is not acceptable at all.
Any other agenda
What's up this right now?
Each one of them. By the way, we put on the board which one you think
is the strong?
everyone agree with that
some more more details
And the early years of December's was the most common.
Whereas the set used to read that either he was really heavy from his memory,
or he would read it from his books.
He has books that he read
to the students.
we're going to get to something,
we're going to get to a couple which were very uncommon in early years, but
they were not narrowed like 15 to 20, usually, maybe three or four hours a night.
And the student takes it and learns it.
If I give you 30 headings right now, unless you'd like to
put, I'm talking about now with the early years
and also in the
sometimes the shed would read it
from the students books,
And he recorded it.
And the next day he comes and he reads his head from your book.
Now this is this led to a very good way of testing the
How could you test the ship? What would you do?
Exactly what he said, he said something different, you're gonna notice it and you said, This isn't on they didn't say that. So
what they used to do was put at ease when sizes were not too heavy.
So, we just read those headings without saying anything you know, any
kind of distinguishes it from other headings.
When you when you
when you read there are
each type of
each matter each way of getting paid leads to certain way of when you commit to
a certain way.
In other words, if I heard the heavy through seminar I heard
then when I narrated like
I should use a certain form of certain words, that tells everybody I heard is gruesome.
Or in general
there's a few terms that you could use the most obvious thing
most obvious the summit
summit, though can only be used in the case of summer semester meeting hackers.
What else may you
definitely use has enough words.
Yes, you may be
He said that in the previous lecture that
actually read the
or the ship
read some books.
I read my book to you,
then you can
key linguistically only when
you say somebody said something doesn't answer that you heard it
If you never know, Hey, can I say all of
permissible to use the Prophet
Okay, I heard it from
you read that to me. Can I say column?
I can't see it right. But this is not proper to see.
Why is it not property?
What's the whole point of this?
What is the purpose is because
when the second
one just physically conveyed
there's a headache. Okay, I heard this from Mohammed,
linguistics according to the language, if I heard any form
there's nothing wrong.
But the police would say yes, there's something wrong. Because this can be used for somebody is hiding.
Exactly. Because when you say Paula, you're not giving enough information about how your birthday. So if you heard us throw some out, you should not just say
in other words, I could have heard it from from hundreds or something. Yes.
For most of us went all the way around the room.
So when I said
there's no way to know how I got either I heard it directly I didn't hear
so they want to be more specific.
heard it from him if you if you if you did not hear through some and then your letter.
Also, what else?
assumed is a chain and
you might have a chain. That
means that you might have
But it's a mess. Mohammed.
Mohammed, this means I heard it directly from Mohammed and I heard it through some app. He read it to us in Arabic because
what do you think?
Usually in every semester, Mohammed
must have heard from him.
He's confused. So the same will happen. Same with that button. Okay, there's another term that may be used. It was it was that's the other term.
was born with a sermon was used in an earlier generation
before the Tamil heritage was finalized.
What's the problem with this one?
It doesn't say how we
protect nowadays, there's still people who write, and they write books like they take them
over. So it is not preferred to use this person.
Some of the some of the LMR.
There's also you can also see
the difference now,
although it's not there, but you may say,
this is okay.
because it implies
I was the one who blamed the way that headache is transmitted, although he said
that first one is the one who's blind.
And then also kind of it also might imply that directly here
all of these, for example, if you say semester, Mohammed, many times
I heard Mohammed say,
it's not the same thing as same column
as the way of receiving the transmission.
has stopped someone
from no notice continuing to know.
has some headaches and also medically out of the Father.
Especially folks that still continuing with books,
some scholars have already differentiated bought enough something just enough for some are but you may not use a button
they go into some great detail.
is considered the strongest way of government headed by most of the
next come up
have an English
as an English comes from.
this one begin, not begin at the
beginning of the second century
is this one who was was when this one was most popular.
But it also existed before, before that one of the domain
name is the machine.
He said I used to record the head even over data. And then after I recorded them, I used to go back to him and read them to him to make sure they're correct.
By the way,
example and also some apps that I use to record the headaches
and then after he takes the headache, he goes back
and checks to make sure that they are correct. So it did exist before but
and it became most popular around the beginning of the second century 100 years
and this is what again,
what is this process described? What is it
now I mean, what is it exactly what is happening
in the future reads to the student right this one
Back to the teacher. And usually what they used to do
is the teacher gives the students his book and he reads them back to the teacher. And also now there's another way to test the teacher.
Exactly. Okay. Another way of
you retire habits which are not in this book,
yet, if he doesn't notice them, what does that mean?
means any better getting old.
What do you do also, by the way, you have the,
after the Chinese, they put a server.
Every time you read the headings to the ship, you put a line through the circle.
So we found many manuscripts having many, many lines.
Circle, meaning there is many, many senses.
always the case too much.
By the way, with respect to some at one point, I forgot to mention,
I think it'll come up later
about if someone has never any idea, is it permissible to record his heaviest wealth.
And should we accept the idea that someone who records while listening to him
because there is a chance that he has something
he wasn't polite enough
to see any of the details.
And it went to defend it, the shaft is really heavy from the person who's writing it means what
was hopefully listening someone.
And he was completely concentrating on listening.
So there was a debate whether or not we should accept the heavy for those people who record while listening to him.
So it's not that I'm missing something.
What they used to do usually is was the ship is reading the head if they have one student to write a little bit fast. And he writes for everybody. And they want to make sure he doesn't make him.
And then after the session is over, they borrow the coffee, and they recorded themselves.
So the point was that they tried to do their best to concentrate on what the
That for example, if I'm the ship, I'm reading headings, from my book, you'll be reading
this will make sure you're not making any mistakes. The rest will just be listening.
That after the session, they'll take your copy and copy
it to the people who are looking for.
But the shift has been very slow matter.
Earlier, let me use the word radical.
is there a risk to lose?
Because of these count very strict criteria?
theoretically, there might be, but as we talked about before, I
promise to preserve the signal. So we know that the jello
pretty much because the baby
and the lady later on
as the recording
know some what it was complicated.
For example, if we do all these things, and I'm the chef, and I give me two or three that we can edit and say we're still doing all these things.
But it's still possible.
But anyway, we'll discuss
more restrictions in
many ways to make sure
You said that movie those good
Post is not only one way. So we can use this
many ways to make sure that
they may not
I can watch.
But there is
one exception to this with respect to many of the habits, that one day when they were about to die, they were afraid that they were they were not passing on the knowledge that they had before they died, many of them used to marry more any
sure that the knowledge that they have
between these things?
Some people say whether 334?
like, why would someone say this is stronger than it?
Could be good?
They couldn't from the teacher and the
So what does it mean the student is reading to the ship, while the students is reading to the ship, the ship.
concentrate on that doesn't have to worry about reading more about anything, you can just concentrate on that.
area. So the students is right there does not from A
to B, this
is this one is longer, or this one where the majority opinion is strong.
Now, if you're here heading this way,
how could you say when you're
let's say like
and the rest of us are in the class. So India is reading headed to adolescence. But obviously it has read the heading to adolescence.
And he said after head it was me.
So yes, is reading happy to oblige. We're all in the class. Now I want to narrate
last semester was out.
How would you say
so in other words, can you say out loud enough? what you meant mentioned daddy as was raised with him.
You don't just accept the norm.
But was the word but it
doesn't have to.
You don't mention the one who's read.
But So the important thing is when you're narrating or whenever
you should admit
this is called send love.
That's also when the rest of by the way.
What do you heard is the rock again, he will be alive, all of his head it will be rejected.
now just to make some final points about these two in particular, isn't this
two most important
number one, regardless of which way is being done, where there's any broken or
Can you hear me through some out throw gras or
broken? broke me that has no money?
Did I hear directly from the other link?
Okay, so the first thing, the important thing is that these two are both unbroke. Are they any the chain is unbroken if these are and the
next one is
i'm saying is that if you hear if you see a headache, and it says colon, and then it says the medical plan.
My question is, if you look at that part of the chain, with the broken arm broke,
and broken because the person heard it directly from that
was the same of if that had
the question who
didn't you say? Two tags
is reading from this book. Students reading from chases book, or Chase is reading from a student's book.
Either either the student is reading from the book, or the students is reading it from his own
case it has to be read to the ship.
Okay, the second one
is in it's stronger than semantic because it's by definition plus an actress for
your book as a student. Well, then what you're saying is that his arguments are not together stronger than the math.
Yeah, I mean, not to distinguish the second kind of
you're, you're assuming that his book was read to the shift, we're taking
my book of your heavy and I may have copies for him. Now I'm reading it to
myself I never had
important. It began to be very popular around the beginning of the why, why? Why? Why was it a mess of us? Yeah. Because
I mean, you have meaning in order to
I want to read some headings. You say, Okay, here's my book. Take it read it to me.
So you have a book, okay. You gave me your book of headings. I never heard these headings from you before.
Didn't place in that
There's many questions that the
scholars have. It used to
ask and especially with respect to these, sometimes the gathering would be quite large.
Obviously, this was before the microphone.
When the gathering was quite large, how did they get the people in the back to here with the ship?
What are they called?
asked to do?
is in it
because he was asked to start making less and
here's the question and then go back to our short Yeah.
The cameraman though
the white men, I guess, you know, yes.
I was thinking I don't want to answer.
Yeah. Why men is that if you read something? Okay, we do have two ways now we have two ways
you have your habit from someone actually
heard Have you heard this heady for himself
or heard the person that he's from his own
talking about shipping his students right
oh tsunami to hurt the heat from the ship
he's the one who said the heavy Okay, so it's not from the students actually don't know
so the questions that arise now if you heard the heavy suppose for example it was the famous
Walkman is the one receiving it from him If man heard that from assembler, and he said he heard it from me.
But obviously, if you make the mistake the people around him
the case okay, but he made this close concluded since you'll be corrected he may
my authority, but he should still say that
you know, we are trying to be as exact as possible. Unable to
for mental health See,
Suppose someone is in a gathering like this. The chef is reading it.
And someone misses a part of the heavy Can he has the one next to him what
But what about the the provinces in
provinces send them says they wouldn't be?
Okay. Well, he didn't hear the rest. So yes, it's probably wouldn't be
So what does that mean?
To the SEC, the first question
is, is it permissible for someone the one next thing
and it says permissible, but again, he should make it clear that he did not give any advice.
that they were in the same
in the same meeting. Yeah, well, what they used to do, if you go to the Berlin Museum,
when many manuscripts
from the early years of these 300 cities,
and these manuscripts
look something like this.
the same circle
on the margin, they'll put the date.
They'll put everyone
Someone came late, someone's sleeping.
So there's some dispute like that you can go to the records, to see what Eddie perrella Let's see, was the person there and
then we'll get to the future if someone has ever claimed for example, you never narrated as indicated and someone else has picked up any claims that you did hear from that person. We'll get to that.
That man had determinacy
What should you do?
Not too many.
Not too many.
Is this allowed to narrate it from someone you have not seen?
Would you accept any from
Would you accept?
Even on my phone never saw the promises and in between them promises. What's another example more important than
think of the hava, the ones that narrated many, many
line level that was related to the point
from this up,
I'll give you a hint about the female.
Did I choose to never
forget, it used to be behind the curtain? The only ones who saw her were close.
So is it allowed to marry from ISIS and Do you not see her
you can develop with some conditions.
Otherwise anyone can stand behind the curve and stay on top. So
you have to they should maybe be someone there who knows or can go behind the curtain
or this was known to be replaced
or revert voice is well known. And he recommended
anything you can imagine
for cases known.
She's from Martin O'Malley was the other lady for what?
Much more money
if you have any of these three conditions? Yeah, I'm saying
for a woman's not from sanity, if they say that they know her face?
No. We're talking about people from behind the curtain.
My point was I know your point you can prove this that there was an apparent gap for what your
in general regardless of this question from behind the curtain that makes those conditions one of those conditions you may
there are many other things and they also used to
budget for the Ministry of
to teach them behind
By the way, what the well I will leave this question for just remind me I left the question.
Suppose the elements is part of the headings mentioned the first part of the reason it says
may you narrate the whole
you have to say this
what you should do is say
if the headache is well known, you may add it to
the rest of the headache.
Okay, suppose you hear heavy from two areas.
One of them is customer
And the other one is not
when you're nervous Can you just mentioned the trustworthy one and reveal well
if you heard from two people
this is you
you heard anything from this person this person doesn't have the feedback.
This one is trustworthy, which one is weak? Or
can you just mention this chain and ignore the
you don't care what somebody else says.
you heard it from two people one is the other one is not
to mention you don't have
so for example in a Muslim, non Muslim dad he never mentioned the weakness.
Always mentioned both
but it's not necessary.
Any last questions about these two?
You don't qualify for this.
The next one
something I don't think probably would come
Get your question in but it sounds like something
I'm not sure what you're saying.
There's another way of transmitting headaches.
this is the third one.
What is the agenda? What are we talking about?
permit to permit to give someone permission to what
permission to narrate your head is.
first of all, he says this.
Then he said, this is like telling someone you have the right to lie on my authority by going and sing these songs.
Not everyone is like
so anyway, want
an opening gesture.
It's worth it.
Now we're talking about
second century onwards.
And this one after like the fifth century, this is perhaps the most important.
It is the most important
During this meeting,
what does it imply? What? What?
What does it imply?
the people that I give to anyone who said lay the law.
Okay, it was basically used for books. And then the after, after the third and fourth century, we're talking about big books.
So the ship is supposed to read this big book, as I said,
the shed is supposed to read this book for every student to come to them. That's what happens when
they begin this.
Were not now when I read that I read
when I read a book, like this,
and this is my shift
back to back.
So he has his
So now I read this book.
When I read this book to him, he'll give me a certificate,
they would have given us a certificate,
give a certificate saying he read this book.
And therefore his name would be added to this net
all the way back to
now it's easy to do later than average. Now, no, I'm the situation, I read this book in my ship. So there's a copy of say, a buddy of mine
that I read.
So I have this copy. Now I've written my shift.
So now you've come to me.
And you say you want to read or you want to
So I said, Okay, you have my permission.
So what you have to do now is you have to find that coffee or those coffees that have my certificate.
And you know, you may narrate from this book on my thoughts.
But you have to say what
you have to mention that you're going to buy
the book for me and I gave you permission to narrate. What that means is that I'm telling you that I'm sure that this copy is authentic. I read the whole book, and you have my permission to to narrate my thoughts.
So I'm the one guaranteeing that this is correct. Look at my sample I read it.
What's wrong with it? What's wrong with it?
Is this a strong would you say it's as strong as the now our
certificates you think it might be stronger than some out
there some scholars have said that
he disliked it because you get lost knowledge without any any work.
You don't have any knowledge, chances are you're probably going to get it
we have not seen anyone doing it from time.
We have not seen anybody doing it will become easy in this matter. The knowledge will be lost in studying would have known me
for the more it's not the way of the people who have not. So in the early years, there was quite a bit of dislike
Later years, we're talking about big books. And
by the way, I forgot to mention
that I would like to mention
something I should have mentioned earlier
about traveling and
the even in some of the roads related news like
around for over
40 years, he did not.
He never left thing. That's why it's so concerning.
Because they never, he never saw.
Enough they never saw soon. And then suddenly, he never saw.
Because those two did not reach payments. And that
was familiar they have they never saw as soon as suddenly as soon as you say.
So one of the benefits of traveling also, is when you travel, you get to see the books in
And what the chef will tell you is if you have my permission to narrate this book, you may take a copy of it and copy it. Sometimes they'll give you a copy to copy.
What are some of the problems with a jet?
Someone might look something in
That's why supposed to be the job of the ship out your coffee, for example. He's supposed to look at him
face by face.
If you do that, with
these books, we're talking about 1000s it was less than 9000 students, just his own students. You can imagine you know a few generations afterwards how many copies are around
about the time that
happened the 9000 at one of the book
they go to a bar over three or four weeks.
Okay, this is one course for his book. Because he might did it
in anything which he did for the 9000 9001 sitting
in the room? Yeah.
Over a period of about 15 years.
By the way, is there any proof in the some not for the gentleman?
Yes, more than no your points and that's more like some ideas from profit, then they go someplace. And then there is
one guy or a couple
very little from him saying give this to her.
But did he ever give something someone tell them after five days resist
the more than
rarely, okay, but even more than that.
Let's get into it.
When you get some resistance.
That's the proof that all people are trying to answer and it has
to do with
it. I'm sorry. Go to work, leaving the hedge and read this to the people
Hasn't was making
for the books. Not good, that was not
a big difference.
When you read when you receive something,
as we said, you should mention that this was jezza. Or you may also say unbutton. In general, and by no means you
this is one thing that they took from Arabic
Not an early, okay 30 years.
But after the standard books were written,
maybe two or three generations after the standard was written, it was used as a way to pass on
And the short can work.
But as I said, it's very important that the ship is supposed to take over the copy, make sure that
you know, the next one is
somewhat similar to that
What is it now,
may be with a judge
or maybe without
other words, I may give you a book
and I take this book for me and I give you the permission to narrate the
agenda, some people consider that stronger than some
this book is correct, I give
this is actually this
was not your hearing it
and you will write it down either directly or from a student by that time.
But, in general, this is not considered as strong,
but many times included,
included also with
other words, you read the book gives you the book, and then you read effect. So, you have this and this. And then if you tell you then
you have to
the relationship between them.
Keep your hands the student the book, and gives them permission to read the book, or scenario. Whenever that was
if the teacher gives the book to a student without permission.
And if the teacher doesn't take the call from him, but gets his permission to zap the jet.
With agenda, he may not give you the book, you have to go and find the book to say yes, I have my certificate copies in the northern library. So we go to the library, so he never actually gets
but one reason why this is preferred is because the coffee goes directly from his head. So hopefully no one has put anything into the book. And he was directed to him too. But in this case,
in the case of the judges, I will find another coffee or something added something and
could you somebody
could use this book after he died. In which way did he
Give me this first image, and then
we'll get to that
Because the scholars, they discuss
if I can do some heavy, heavy, is it allowed me to marry these headings, but I'm not giving you permission, you may not know is
So he got
to that point
where unless he has some doubt about it,
he doesn't have the right to say you don't have permission to.
So if you if you make the number two, you,
you may never put at ease. But since he does not give you a chance,
we cannot be certain that those headings are all correct.
Supposedly, because you're sure that those headings are correct.
So that's why we're stronger than when.
Give him an hour that
says obviously, if you receive any, and this way, when you transmit it, you have to mention that
now is the gym, by the way broken,
unbroken, but it is a little bit weak
is not considered the same way as somehow
unbroken, okay? But if
he's headed by a winner winner, and you contradict what someone else receives.
The one reason I will be considered stronger than the ones
broken, but it's not the strongest.
And then exactly, from the time of the process and
the letter to the emperor of Rome.
And also, with
Danny, as you see,
there's a fine distinction between Manila and jazz, especially if you want to take it back to the phone system.
you write something
to someone else. Suppose you had
no, that's okay. So in general, we're like
this good way of
survey. Many people used to write letters to Maui about
the technical way.
What are some problems?
What are some of the conditions that we might have to
Okay, so the seal and if you know the person seal
What else? What else did
he recognize the handwriting
if you know the one who's giving it to step up
How many have you have
to meet some conditions like those conditions?
during this time
and also when you receive this way obviously when you're never able to get up to
kind of written
What do you think about
that's one of the conditions in order to solve the problem today Is
now he also had his own well known
dignitaries they had their own feelings
used to have American
where they're like what the clothes
you cannot open it without breaking
either breaking the paper or breaking
the papers broke broken.
Like you know those
drugs nowadays. The tough seals broken don't
check back with the sender.
You may have to check back.
You may make
the very last question at the end of
the sufficient when it when you send something