Introduction To The Science Of Hadeeth Part 4

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Sorry, the manuscript from the ninth century up to the agent

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with this nod back to upgrader

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exists, as we're talking about

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and the burden using

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how it gets there

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i think you know, during soldiers returning

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By the way,

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but what's his most famous book of hate?

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And as we will talk about later, how is the Muslim arranged

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the range according to the hobby, who originally narrated

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So, what we can do in the Muslim, this is one of the larger later works, we can go to the section of operators headed

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permit the must not arrange according to the Sahabi who narrated the heading. So, in other words, all the heavies that will be under

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will not be under the care to this kind of thing all the convenience

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comes from

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all of

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these all of this 123

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and from there and through different students we have also seen

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So, this book exists this book exists this book exists

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and they did not realize until recently but this book also exists

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and we can study them to see how the earlier works were integrated into

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the latest

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ad 137 heavy also tells us by the way

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something about earlier collection has 137

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by the way how do you how do we count them we count them by what

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we killed them by

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so for example the Profit System system thing and once the hobby narrated the best did on another hobby narrated anybody's ever gets down here we call that too heavy. The same statement the same incident would cause too heavy

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This is my son's cause they memorize 500,000

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we're really talking about change. But with respect to this paper when we say 137 How did we meet actually understand some different statements and reports from the provinces and because the chain was one command from operator from the

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some of the scholars

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claimed that the actual recording of Star Trek 400

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schools and

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why I actually have

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these like mama Papa, obviously

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there's an easy way to spice it

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while I prefer my way of repeating the

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homeless you can see the

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of the different statements

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contain old

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that's another

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another broken chair.

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Discuss the budget committee meeting.

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137 Eddie

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29 of them

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on both sides, audience

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29 of these 137 MBAs are both

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with the exact same wording the exact same thing.

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22 of them

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are recorded, and just the same audio

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was exactly the same wording.

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And 48 of them

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are Muslim but not the same quality.

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That means 99 137 Have you ever

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found their way into a party?

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What's even more interesting in the Muslim world

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through this chain

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through the cipher chain

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has 136

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for this chain,

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and 135 of them

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are exactly 371 of them does not

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originate, okay, let me just make a clusion about this

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is assuming the best hours.

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The conclusion from this is that we see what happened to those early works. I mean, they were basically incorporated into later works. Until last century or the century before the modern day Western scholars, they only had these works, and did not realize that this work even existed.

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I mean, they read about it in the in the site, but it was referred to but they didn't know it was still in existence until it was done, I think in some library in Turkey and then it was taken to the museum in Berlin. But after was found it proves the fact that they are here works that were not lost. But they were simply incorporated into the later works like some nothing.

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Okay, in the most amount of

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this chain

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when this chain is 136 135 of them are exactly the same.

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So in other words, there's two pennies here, which are not there.

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And there's also one heavy and must know that myth, which is not

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from those energies.

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me it was not their intention, and almost more of the audience to include all those edits wasn't there.

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Yeah, because both of these books are called the animals.

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As you'll see in this section, we all traveled a lot.

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But here we're talking about

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spent much of his time in Medina and also in

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But he also spent during the time of during the time, he was the governor of what's known

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as a mom I don't remember where he's from, but this one is from

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Danny they used to travel a lot this was he was common and it's time to travel

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and take heavy from different schools and as you travel

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a brand

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new way when it comes

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to the number one.

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Many have read as many other students.

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And even he had many other books besides what the

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show how the earlier works are simply absorbed into the manual. So what that what I'm saying is that you cannot argue that since we don't know where they are works or that they didn't exist.

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I don't think a small number because for one

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for one student to take it from one hobby, as your as your show here, as we'll talk about here in a second, it could be much easier for the later scholars to get 1000s. But for one student for one salary, this is a good

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deal on some topics. Because we

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want to we don't want to cover the material in just a superficial way. Otherwise, I think there's no purpose.

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So we'll go and challenge to some

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some decent, with respect to the recording of headin

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beyond the beginning years.

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Earlier collections of headsets were basically just meant for health and personal memorization. They were not organized the collections of headings.

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But basically people used to record headings, so they themselves would know

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that in the future, they could return to those headings and read them and help them. Remember,

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after that, they begin to be more

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systematic, or collections of headings. For example, when certain did our certain innovations appeared among the Muslims,

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the Muslim scholars collected on both topics in particular. So after the personal elections are headed, we begin to get into collections of headings on certain topics that were important.

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So the first collections of regular collections. First we have personal collections.

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Basically, these were to help the person memorize the headings that he learned.

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And then we had glitches

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on specific topics

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that were important at that time,

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for example, and if there's some bizarre disappeared, someone would collect the idea of showing that this action is against this and that he would present what was the

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actual heaviness or actual symptom of the problem.

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After that, we got a collection

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of these

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our collections on general topics,

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and general

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collections of general topics and in general, the early collections included

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as well as statements of this hover and the main

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one of the earliest of those that we do have existence is a

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collection of heavy

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bass based on separate topics that include headings and segments of The Hobbit domain.

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Would you

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have many North Africans so the answer should be

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very quick.

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And he isn't with us within 50 years.

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Within 50 years, anyone

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died in 179. He was born around the year nine.

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And his collection still exists today obviously, is basically a collection of topics. But it's not just edits. It also includes statements of the Sahaba and

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then after that, we have collections

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Just heavy

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but the arrangement isn't, isn't very good. And it just been collected from different sources and put it in one

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And then we have collections

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arranged according to the Sahaba.

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to the companion,

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ordinary headed and a classic example of that

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we discussed what we discussed one last time

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a dyed in what you have now the Saudis

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COVID before to run the fort.

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Basically the difference between this what's happening now is we're getting collections now just a penny

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and finally, we get the what are called the standard collections are the well known collections today.

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Basically, they are just collections of headings, some only contain authentic edits,

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some contain

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organized based on some

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organized based on

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what the fisken

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pronounces name and

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a device, a device this history into three categories, basically,

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the first category equals is the period of

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and then

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and then finally,

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I think less than we just said when and

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what's the difference between them Why is he calling the spirits that awaited this one

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Any guesses?

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Basically, just putting them together

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and making them more like like a book and this table

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this table basically summarizes what we went through

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giving examples

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of the types of headaches and help, how there was a progression basically in the types of collections that appear.

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This topic of recording is important because, as I think I mentioned at the beginning

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with respect to many of the specific pain This is one of the one of the topics in which they tried to attack the sense of heavy heavy recording for a long period of time.

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So, let us just summarize basically, what are the conclusions we can make about the recording of heavy

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This is where now the students are getting involved

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like what are the conclusions we can make?

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The conclusion we can

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no recording of it

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even before that, so if you one of the claims of the orientalist.

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First point is, we have to point out that

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the Arabs has the ability to record.

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And as we said, just because they had the ability doesn't mean that they did.

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And we also said that to preserve something recording, it isn't necessary. While recording something isn't sufficient.

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Here's my economics background.

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So number one, we had

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had the ability to record.

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Second conclusion, as I

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stated, if we want to make we should make it more general, though,

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that the provinces send them

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even number one, he did not make a general prohibition, of recording it, or it was prohibited at the beginning of Islam, but later the profit permitted. So the second conclusion, the province

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and also

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headed to be recorded.

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From the time of the provinces, the provinces to the more being being recorded.

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What's another conclusion?

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What did we what's one of the things we talked about at the end,

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we had all the numbers

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going down, we had some

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more simple importantly, what that was a sign of or what we're talking about is the the companion

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and the followers

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had their own many of them had their own collection of headings

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of recording.

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And this is the simple automated his PhD dissertation he lists

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something like 400 years from the first two or three years per student centers and

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has their own collections of recording

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what did we say about what happened to those

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what happened to those

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Okay, they disappeared but what happened to their head you

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we're not lost, although the

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although the book itself may have been lost.

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But they were absorbed,

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later larger.

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And the classic example of that, which has just been discovered missing.

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Episode pointed out after meat

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was pronouncing it with a hat that was wrong.

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And finally,

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the final conclusion then that we can make is a theory that was held by many Muslims as well as non Muslim writers about Islam that were not recorded in the earlier

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series as the headings were not recorded in the early years.

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This theory was helped by both Muslim and non Muslim

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we're not recorded in the early years.

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Any questions about what we've covered above the recording of headings before we move on?

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Question about

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Think the conflict is resolved?

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If you mean by the conflict that we don't know exactly the reason that the prophets are hesitant the recording at the beginning, that's okay. But it's not important for us to know that we, what we know is the fact that so many of us in this recording,

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especially at the end of the day, and from what

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me from permitted this important thing, why did he first prohibited

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Any other questions coming to court in

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the early years?

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And now we move on to the study of this net?

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What is this net

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chain of authorities back to the provinces?

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What's the by the way? What's the root of this word? What does it mean?

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I wouldn't say the word doesn't

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relate to

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you basically, it has to two minutes.

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First, meaning

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to read upon something.

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Don't give it some poetry to

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evidence of what I'm saying.

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to restaurants something.

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another meaning means to

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Meaning of a sense.

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Now, what's the what's the what's the relationship between these two meanings of the word? And the way we use the content? And what how did they come up with this term?

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As a chain?

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And it is taking the statement and sending it more or raising it back to the public. Okay, that's the chain. They've been erased and then back to the

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the risk, I mean, in conjunction with meaning.

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So that relationship between them and what about the enemy?

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Everyone relies on the rest of

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The relationship to the other part has no meaning is that the authenticity of the heady to a large part rests upon the chain of thoughts.

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Very clever. That was an honorable sound to throw in the

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meaning of that

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get Why is this not important?

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Why do we consider important so much we have to

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develop that

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sense of motivation

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it says this negative parts of the religion

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not as part of the religion, if it were not for this net, anyone could say whatever he wishes.

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In other words, if it wasn't for this man, anyone could just say

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without giving in Europe, even this kind of thing is still existing today. Someone says something you asked me What's your? What do you think?

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So delays he continued in his statement.

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He says, We're not for this note, anyone would say whatever he wishes to see. And then if you ask the person where he got that he would become set

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up as No, it's not if he had no authority for what you're saying. Then he would have to become set

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up an authority who died in 161.

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He said this man is the sword is a believer without his sword was with him with what's when he killed?

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And what do you mean by that? by the use of this net, the Muslim scholars were able to kill

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fabricated ideas and innovations and forgeries, and so forth.

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So this plays a very important part. And as many scores early scores, they said that this

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is your religion.

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This is our religion. So they said, this is your religion. So be careful from whom you take your religion from,

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you should make sure that you only take your religion from people who have knowledge and whom

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you can trust.

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So therefore, it is the essential aspects of hedis.

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Now with respect to the preservation of Hadees, though, there's another important question we have to ask both.

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Similar to the question we asked about the recording,

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which was one of the first questions we asked about the recording.

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Or the third question we asked about.

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Well, when when did we asked when did the recording of headaches start? It's very important also to ask when did the use of this Nestor suppose it started 200 years after the problem.

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It means that love couldn't be

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alive couldn't be there. Well, it means it's useless. It means that it really wasn't really something used to preserve the headaches of

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so many of the orientalist

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especially following one German

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the famous chef

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Joseph chef,

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from this century,

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he claims

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all men

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were projected backwards.

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Do you mean by

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that all of this net

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or projected backwards

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pretty much is a wonderful thing. Check along with one of the people that worked the most to refute

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his book refuting the use of shock shock.

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Less than someone else and they put

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my last name they put out there

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What did he mean by this?

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The one that you have slides?

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Yeah, kind of what he claims is this is not was not used for the first 200 years.

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So what for example, what he would do

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is he would take the heavy,

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heavy and then he would create this nut section from it.

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And he has a statement the meaning of it that are remember exactly what you said. The great thing

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you said the better than not? The stronger the proof that the heavy does fabricate

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better there's not the stronger the proof.

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Most of the orientalist they follow him.

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Many of them what they do is they say they tried to show that what he wasn't quite correct.

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But then when it comes to the conclusion, they accepted theory almost.

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So people will study anyways in the schools in the United States they get this theory and theories of students

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discuss when, when exactly this net began, you won't have any ideas for the use of this net begin.

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And the other

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profit from the profit.

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Yeah, but when did they start?

00:35:53--> 00:35:56

Talking about the happy hour? Oh, I mean, instead of up Have you

00:35:58--> 00:35:59

been in there with language with the first

00:36:03--> 00:36:04

time perfect, awesome.

00:36:08--> 00:36:08

Did you hear

00:36:11--> 00:36:15

basically the three things, but when the heavy

00:36:16--> 00:36:17

or when the snag begins to be

00:36:19--> 00:36:20

first opinion

00:36:23--> 00:36:24

after the business

00:36:32--> 00:36:33

what's your process?

00:36:50--> 00:36:51

The Austin from

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top. Okay.

00:37:01--> 00:37:04

Well, basically the evidence for this is the statement that given city

00:37:08--> 00:37:08

when did even

00:37:10--> 00:37:15

as you get into VPS start now knowing when people die and when they live

00:37:18--> 00:37:19

under the magnetic disk.

00:37:28--> 00:37:35

He didn't want to end the statement from him is even sitting said they did not use to ask about this net.

00:37:36--> 00:37:40

But when the fit now occurs, the people would say state your authority in other words picture

00:37:41--> 00:37:51

and they will look for the people of the simnet acceptor. And they will look for the people who have innovations and rejected. So he he says that they did not used to ask about this.

00:37:55--> 00:37:56

Now shocked again.

00:38:02--> 00:38:02


00:38:03--> 00:38:11

Nice. Chuck doesn't accept this. It doesn't like this statement. As an argument again, we talked about the Fed now what's the

00:38:12--> 00:38:16

if you just turn in the city statement? What would you assume the fitness

00:38:19--> 00:38:23

as we said Yang is the word fitna can be used for many, but in general

00:38:24--> 00:38:30

in semuc history. He just used the word fitna without switching in 30 years without any

00:38:31--> 00:38:34

any other words Yeah, it's like using the word assume that we say so. Now what do we mean?

00:38:39--> 00:38:41

They said fitness during that time with the baby.

00:38:43--> 00:38:49

Okay, in general, they're talking about either the death of man or the battle between

00:38:50--> 00:38:50

the boss

00:38:54--> 00:38:54

he says

00:38:58--> 00:39:01

found in the book of history, I think it was a fabulous book

00:39:03--> 00:39:06

and the top of his book history it refers to a leading disease

00:39:12--> 00:39:15

and it refers to the fitness during the demo what he

00:39:20--> 00:39:24

found in the history book one statement saying that during this time, there was a bit

00:39:25--> 00:39:30

so he concludes that what even serene is referring to this fitness

00:39:33--> 00:39:36

so he says this paper from Evan serene is referring to the fitness what do you do

00:39:38--> 00:39:40

with this logical argument doesn't stop.

00:39:41--> 00:39:43

When did when he died? By the way? When was this?

00:39:46--> 00:39:47

No. What do you need

00:39:49--> 00:39:50

was in the year one point?

00:39:56--> 00:39:59

Yeah. So he continues so he said, Well, that was good.

00:40:00--> 00:40:02

was dead. This must be fabricated.

00:40:04--> 00:40:06

He is logic.

00:40:07--> 00:40:11

Danny isn't sitting we know the statement from him and sturdiness isn't many books, there's no question.

00:40:13--> 00:40:18

But he's saying no, no wasn't 126 and said he died in one thing. So therefore the statement

00:40:38--> 00:40:39


00:40:40--> 00:40:41

is one of the

00:40:43--> 00:40:47

inside domain family there was a conflict, and he tried to overthrow the government. I

00:40:49--> 00:40:51

think his uncle was the ruler. He wasn't.

00:40:53--> 00:40:54

He wasn't Yeah, he wasn't the

00:40:58--> 00:40:59

not talking about

00:41:00--> 00:41:00

someone who makes

00:41:04--> 00:41:06

so much for the argument that

00:41:08--> 00:41:13

the first opinion does not begin during the time of fitness or after the

00:41:14--> 00:41:15

second opinion.

00:41:18--> 00:41:18

Second Opinion,

00:41:20--> 00:41:20


00:41:33--> 00:41:35

it could be we'll discuss that more detail.

00:41:45--> 00:41:46

Okay, we'll get to that opinion a

00:41:48--> 00:41:49

second opinion,

00:41:50--> 00:41:51

during the time of

00:41:56--> 00:41:56


00:42:01--> 00:42:02

One person reports.

00:42:05--> 00:42:10

The average anyway is one of the major domain events many Sahaba

00:42:11--> 00:42:16

he died in early after 124. there

00:42:21--> 00:42:22

was evidence for this opinion.

00:42:25--> 00:42:26


00:42:29--> 00:42:31

was the first one to use this.

00:42:38--> 00:42:39

And the third opinion

00:42:43--> 00:42:45

comes from amercia.

00:42:56--> 00:42:57

Non English

00:43:03--> 00:43:04

and when did he live?

00:43:07--> 00:43:10

In one of the domains he lived from 17 to one.

00:43:15--> 00:43:17

Yeah, this is based on the statement that we get here.

00:43:28--> 00:43:31

And he said this, I'm going to shut up he was the first one to

00:43:32--> 00:43:34

investigate this Ned.

00:43:39--> 00:43:41

One of the students have

00:43:42--> 00:43:43

read a heavy for him

00:43:44--> 00:43:45


00:43:47--> 00:43:56

read ahead of Shelby, and our told him whom they really just you. And he has an American mamoon. So yes, yes, yes.

00:44:02--> 00:44:09

Now with respect to the first question, is actually kind of obvious. The answer to the first question. If for example,

00:44:10--> 00:44:13

the first Habiba says the power.

00:44:20--> 00:44:24

What does it What is it? If you heard it directly from the positive? What does it

00:44:26--> 00:44:27

have the limit goes to zero.

00:44:30--> 00:44:36

He heard directly from the processor. So he's mentioning his source department. So he's mentioning this net.

00:44:38--> 00:44:41

So one of the Sahaba mentioned, the heavies, they heard from promises.

00:44:42--> 00:44:43

They actually mentioned this.

00:44:45--> 00:44:54

But in addition to that, of a book in particular, and also I thought they used to insist on checking the narrations as

00:44:56--> 00:44:58

they used to as many times did you hear this directly from the

00:45:02--> 00:45:06

So, what we find is this man in general was first being used during the time of

00:45:10--> 00:45:12

this habit, but

00:45:13--> 00:45:14

it was not rigorous

00:45:16--> 00:45:17

was not a rigorous use

00:45:19--> 00:45:20

from the beginning.

00:45:26--> 00:45:27

Either way, the time was the

00:45:30--> 00:45:31

official ending of the sandwich.

00:45:34--> 00:45:35

Now, when was the last

00:45:40--> 00:45:40


00:45:42--> 00:45:45

in, there was a hell of a living.

00:45:47--> 00:45:51

But, of course, in general many of our most of them died, let's say like

00:45:53--> 00:45:55

70, between 70 to 90 miles.

00:45:56--> 00:45:58

Most of them had died.

00:45:59--> 00:46:00

But they were still alive until

00:46:02--> 00:46:05

we get to him on the chapter smothered.

00:46:10--> 00:46:23

Now, what I mean by this wasn't rigorous from the beginning some of the younger Sahaba like an assembly medic. And even at birth, they used to narrate at least some promises to them that they did not hear themselves.

00:46:24--> 00:46:26

They heard it from other Sahaba.

00:46:29--> 00:46:30

So, in other words, they will not mention these.

00:46:32--> 00:46:34

But pneumatic said,

00:46:35--> 00:46:46

it says that not everything we narrate you, we heard directly from the power system, but we are narrating from people from other companions, and we did not used to live in our in our heads.

00:46:47--> 00:46:52

So some of the youngest, however, wouldn't narrate any but this time without mentioning this

00:46:53--> 00:46:57

fact instead about even our best if he only narrated forehead it directly from

00:46:58--> 00:46:59

all of his other headings.

00:47:05--> 00:47:16

So the first one the first point is that, in general, it was began during the time of the hubbub because anyone wants to have a drink me from the, from the buffet.

00:47:17--> 00:47:18

And he's mentioned

00:47:21--> 00:47:25

when we're the narrator is forced to mention that.

00:47:27--> 00:47:28

When did this occur?

00:47:29--> 00:47:30

I just actually mentioned

00:47:35--> 00:47:36

during the time of all,

00:47:41--> 00:47:43

this is the time that they were,

00:47:45--> 00:47:52

in general, people were forced to mention who they got to hang out to this includes shopping that we mentioned

00:47:54--> 00:47:54


00:47:56--> 00:47:57

For me,

00:47:58--> 00:47:59

it also wasn't

00:48:00--> 00:48:03

necessarily all the time, but if this started that thing,

00:48:04--> 00:48:05

just started

00:48:06--> 00:48:07


00:48:14--> 00:48:15


00:48:16--> 00:48:29

but what about this, then when the narrator himself insists to mention this was this by the way started during the time of purple book Under Armour, and increased dramatically, dramatically after the business

00:48:31--> 00:48:32

started doing this?

00:48:34--> 00:48:36

and increased dramatically after that?

00:48:37--> 00:48:42

After the fitness some scores of hate they used to they used to blame

00:48:43--> 00:48:46

things to blame people for accepting me without

00:48:51--> 00:48:56

the last one. By the way, the fitness between the audio quality or the death of Walkmans What do you

00:49:00--> 00:49:01

have manners around 40?

00:49:04--> 00:49:09

So we're still talking very early. This is how many years after the death of the promises.

00:49:19--> 00:49:21

So we're talking just 30 years after the

00:49:25--> 00:49:28

when Ben did the narrator's themselves and system mentioning that

00:49:44--> 00:49:53

well, it's after the fitness journey, have you started narrating it every time you never have you after the video, they're gonna start asking you know, where did you get?

00:49:54--> 00:49:55

What is your net?

00:49:56--> 00:49:59

So after being asked what is your net worth? Then they say

00:50:00--> 00:50:00

To assist them

00:50:02--> 00:50:02


00:50:04--> 00:50:06

Okay, so basically a called on the

00:50:10--> 00:50:13

mat itself and the use of this method from the early years,

00:50:15--> 00:50:19

not like oriented was trying to show is from much later.

00:50:53--> 00:50:54

By the way, you should

00:50:55--> 00:50:57

keep in mind that there's many,

00:50:58--> 00:51:03

the scores of headings, they used to differentiate between different times different types of

00:51:04--> 00:51:04


00:51:06--> 00:51:12

For example, during the football, there were a score of eight was giving a hook book that would be different than his.

00:51:13--> 00:51:21

So he may have mentioned this not during the book, but while during the hate session, he wouldn't mention this. But sometimes they will mention this note, while other times

00:51:22--> 00:51:26

they will not mention this that, for example, in the case of Qatada

00:51:36--> 00:51:36

are writing

00:51:40--> 00:51:45

this story shows that sometimes they would, they would not mention this,

00:51:46--> 00:51:47

although they know that,

00:51:48--> 00:51:50

for example, another one to use.

00:51:52--> 00:51:57

And in order to save time, give me headaches with the same sentence as you would not give this.

00:51:58--> 00:52:15

So, sometimes we have new students, okay, every time we get the headache, and say, what's the what's the headache? So it has to go through all this. And the old students used to get upset. are you wasting our time by always asking him, we know that. So he knows it's not even though he doesn't mention it.

00:52:17--> 00:52:28

So just because you might find someone who died, for example, 118. And you find some reports that he did not mention this note. That doesn't mean he doesn't know this, or he didn't mention it on other occasions.

00:52:29--> 00:52:38

And the last people to insist on this one number see, that people do insist on is not with the people of a show

00:52:40--> 00:52:41

that he wants to them.

00:52:42--> 00:52:43

What do we say every day

00:52:46--> 00:52:50

as I visit them, and he said, what's wrong with you people that you give the headache without the

00:52:51--> 00:52:52

the head of the matter.

00:52:53--> 00:52:55

And you can give the headache without this not

00:52:56--> 00:53:00

so insistent on them to use this mat. And they were after that they begin to

00:53:02--> 00:53:11

test the meaning of a medic statement. That was the first system using the Saudis talking about the first one in the show, to insist on

00:53:13--> 00:53:14


00:53:16--> 00:53:16


00:53:22--> 00:53:23

talked before.

00:53:33--> 00:53:34

By the way, there's one thing that

00:53:38--> 00:53:52

let me just mention this point, I will not I will not go into detail on this point. But the one thing we should notice is that this is something that is the scientific use of this method and something that is unique to the Muslim.

00:53:54--> 00:53:58

This is something that is actually perhaps the proof of the finality of the public.

00:54:01--> 00:54:04

Can you all the prophets before them before the problem,

00:54:05--> 00:54:08

their teachings were not preserved in this manner.

00:54:09--> 00:54:11

Even has them in this book.

00:54:16--> 00:54:17


00:54:20--> 00:54:20


00:54:24--> 00:54:32

In this book, he just described the different types of narrations from the different prophets. And he breaks it into six different sets.

00:54:34--> 00:54:43

And he says the only the only ones that had a complete mess for all the generations back to the boat that send them back to their province was this.

00:54:44--> 00:55:00

So there's something unique to this. And as far as the fact that the purpose of the last prophet and his teachings are to remain sensitive gentlemen, and there's no profit to come after him to correct any mistakes. So therefore all the data, preserve the teaching

00:55:00--> 00:55:00

And one of the ways

00:55:01--> 00:55:02

to use

00:55:08--> 00:55:11

the copy of that page in my book. So, continue

00:55:15--> 00:55:15

with my book

00:55:19--> 00:55:21

questions will end at this point

00:55:23--> 00:55:24

any questions

00:56:16--> 00:56:19

recently traveled in search of

00:56:24--> 00:56:25

another one of the new unique

00:56:26--> 00:56:28

characteristics of the alma

00:56:31--> 00:56:38

mater, which we mentioned earlier lesson also travels in fiction pay for something or travels in search of knowledge or something we find

00:56:41--> 00:56:43

that we do not find the earlier

00:56:44--> 00:56:45


00:56:49--> 00:56:53

give some examples for families for pennies on

00:56:58--> 00:56:59

the dollar

00:57:02--> 00:57:05

for one month in order to hear a single ad from

00:57:08--> 00:57:19

and Ronnie records the same it says this used to hear this ad from some of the marriages from someone in Egypt, but he went directly to the person in Egypt to

00:57:24--> 00:57:25

travel to Egypt to us

00:57:26--> 00:57:27

about what happens

00:57:31--> 00:57:34

once we get this woman Medina to go to Damascus

00:57:36--> 00:57:39

to confirm also what he says he heard from the Sahaba

00:57:47--> 00:57:48

you want to see are the ones when

00:57:52--> 00:57:55

the time the time of the rain for the similar situation?

00:57:57--> 00:58:01

What needs to go through without the rain especially, for example, many of the people

00:58:03--> 00:58:04

they used to hear any

00:58:06--> 00:58:09

marriage from people on the authority of the husband.

00:58:10--> 00:58:12

So they were not satisfied with this long chain.

00:58:13--> 00:58:19

Between them there's someone between them so they used to travel to Medina to get the headache directly from the Bahamas and

00:58:23--> 00:58:32

one of the survey McColl he went to Egypt and Egypt and Iraq and Syria. So you can just watch the cartoons and one

00:58:36--> 00:58:40

of the one of the devayne he was nicknamed father.

00:58:57--> 00:59:00

Okay, for example, story, have

00:59:02--> 00:59:03

you heard any?

00:59:05--> 00:59:10

And yes, the person who did what did you get paid from? So the person stole from someone and

00:59:11--> 00:59:18

so he was the boss. And he asked the person, where did you get it from? So he said, I heard it from someone cynical.

00:59:19--> 00:59:27

So he went to that study, and the person pulled him I heard it from someone other than so he went over there. And he asked the guy, where did you get it from?

00:59:28--> 00:59:31

So he said, Egypt, Egypt.

00:59:34--> 00:59:35

Does anyone

00:59:43--> 00:59:45

remember that? Yes. And where did you hit?

00:59:47--> 00:59:50

By the way his name was not the one who married.

00:59:52--> 00:59:55

Anyone know that? Just by the name you should know that.

00:59:56--> 00:59:59

I could not have known Mary and wife and said

01:00:00--> 01:00:00


01:00:01--> 01:00:02

to him, okay.

01:00:07--> 01:00:10

And this is the area that you find some of the books that succeed.

01:00:19--> 01:00:20

things for the one

01:00:23--> 01:00:26

that talks about a resource

01:00:27--> 01:00:28


01:00:30--> 01:00:30


01:00:32--> 01:00:32


01:00:33--> 01:00:34

than words you get

01:00:35--> 01:00:36

what he says,

01:00:37--> 01:00:39

I found the people getting busy when soap was

01:00:40--> 01:00:40


01:00:43--> 01:00:46

So I made the Teddy's up in order to encourage people to eat.

01:01:00--> 01:01:01


01:01:07--> 01:01:09

that that's one of the benefits of traveling.

01:01:11--> 01:01:12

And you can check the source of the day.

01:01:13--> 01:01:18

Me if someone tells me her to head east, you can go to his source and find out what's your work.

01:01:19--> 01:01:28

Make sure you've heard directly from him. And make sure it also has in this case, the person beverages. What are some of the benefits, he says?

01:01:33--> 01:01:33


01:01:42--> 01:01:45

hate you get to you get to see the narrator who never

01:01:46--> 01:01:56

recorded this before. But he would take it from anyone who goes to live in the city and study the person, see how he lives and everything. And then after you satisfied with his character, then

01:01:59--> 01:02:03

it gives you the opportunity to meet the person who was the source of

01:02:04--> 01:02:05

what else

01:02:07--> 01:02:10

we'll have another chance to hurt you.

01:02:20--> 01:02:21

If you have

01:02:26--> 01:02:29

promise you go and travel you meet him. What are you doing?

01:02:38--> 01:02:39

With Nikolas?

01:02:43--> 01:02:43


01:02:45--> 01:02:46

you make the change? And

01:02:53--> 01:02:54

what's the benefits of making the change?

01:02:58--> 01:03:00

The shorter the shorter the better.

01:03:03--> 01:03:07

Let's just repair the fewer in between the less chance of

01:03:11--> 01:03:11


01:03:19--> 01:03:21

traveling to meet the person that you have heard

01:03:22--> 01:03:23


01:03:25--> 01:03:25


01:03:27--> 01:03:27


01:03:28--> 01:03:30

You'll be able to hear many more.

01:03:32--> 01:03:33

And this is one of the reasons why

01:03:36--> 01:03:38

our finger which needs some work. And

01:03:46--> 01:03:49

by the way, before we get to this point knows that

01:03:50--> 01:03:53

this shows us something about how we

01:03:54--> 01:03:56

felt about the problems

01:03:58--> 01:04:09

that exist they're willing to give up money, you're willing to give us time to set up them this one editor. So this shows you how eager they were to learn the editing process and make sure

01:04:10--> 01:04:10

you can

01:04:12--> 01:04:13

make sure they are correct.

01:04:16--> 01:04:18

This figure

01:04:19--> 01:04:20

will work on

01:04:24--> 01:04:25

one of the advantages of

01:04:26--> 01:04:27

traveling such a headache.

01:04:28--> 01:04:32

later generations to have very large collections of headings.

01:04:34--> 01:04:37

And if you're if you imagine for example,

01:04:42--> 01:04:42

from the Roman

01:04:45--> 01:04:46


01:04:55--> 01:04:56

an English

01:05:00--> 01:05:01

Each one of these two have been

01:05:09--> 01:05:10

each one of these

01:05:12--> 01:05:14

and one of the domains for example

01:05:16--> 01:05:17

one of the domains

01:05:18--> 01:05:20

and met all four of these

01:05:28--> 01:05:30

we also have someone over here

01:05:31--> 01:05:34

does the same thing. So on the next generation

01:05:37--> 01:05:37


01:05:39--> 01:05:42

he travels in both of these domains

01:05:49--> 01:05:52

now if you take this example you multiply

01:05:53--> 01:05:54


01:05:55--> 01:05:57

things to think about

01:05:59--> 01:06:07

that are so you can imagine how it would be possible for the later generations to have very large collections of edits compared to that

01:06:13--> 01:06:14

now, tell you about one person

01:06:16--> 01:06:19

we only had 10 heads with one of the submissive angels happening

01:06:34--> 01:06:40

Well, what you're doing is you're benefiting from the cells of the earlier person he fell so he gave his losses

01:06:41--> 01:06:44

So, now if you just use one person

01:06:45--> 01:06:51

and this is what why what are some of the latest scholars were able to compile large

01:06:52--> 01:06:54

large collections large collections

01:06:58--> 01:07:01

and also let's do one person having many

01:07:06--> 01:07:07


01:07:08--> 01:07:12

not uncommon for someone to have more than 1008 or more

01:07:14--> 01:07:16

because he goes to a different city

01:07:20--> 01:07:20


01:07:22--> 01:07:22

let them come

01:07:27--> 01:07:27

Another benefit of

01:07:38--> 01:07:38


01:07:42--> 01:07:42


01:07:47--> 01:07:48

okay not the

01:07:50--> 01:07:57

different way that was one of the reasons that led to some unification among the

01:07:58--> 01:07:59

among the Muslim

01:08:03--> 01:08:05

if you have refused to have a who knows

01:08:07--> 01:08:09

let's say they all moved to Boston

01:08:11--> 01:08:11

and all the others

01:08:13--> 01:08:15

maybe need died doing the proper

01:08:16--> 01:08:16


01:08:18--> 01:08:20

So what you have is you have invested

01:08:24--> 01:08:27

you have people love the following. There's only ones who know that

01:08:29--> 01:08:32

you remember to talk with them and even the most of them, those

01:08:35--> 01:08:37

are the reasons religious opinion amongst

01:08:38--> 01:08:42

tourists. What was it some people knew it it was other people did not know.

01:08:44--> 01:08:49

But if you have someone going around and collecting heavy from here and there and putting it into one book,

01:08:51--> 01:08:54

this will allow differences to be the most

01:08:55--> 01:08:59

important Unfortunately, it did not eradicate all of the differences. Because

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there's some differences. There's some differences but there's even some invalid differences which should have been

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a personal readings in one

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or another benefit.

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well, because of human beings sometimes.

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Some people come to us dumb enough, like bow the heads or follow the judgment.

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are we eating

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But usually what was the piece by the way with respect to

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this point

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usually you have a when you're young

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and when you're young from the observe or the mannerisms of

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your young one you don't teach

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so you come to the city and you listen to this your

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family your system your city and then you start thinking

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about checking the memories binaries How would this have

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you heard it from

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as soon as people who are watching

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some of you

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you check to see if he narrated the same way that they are

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so checking this is one way of checking to make sure that there is we're nearing the property we're not making welcomes it's also a good way of spotting

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buying or buying

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or buying

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because many times what the fabricator will do is they'll say oh I heard this from so and so.

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You of course mature someone far away.

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Hopefully no one will ever go and check to make sure you

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go there.

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I never said this

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before they can ask his students around and

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so this is one also one of the ways

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spotting forges of

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Yeah, I think we missed

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one of the one of the points by the way that we

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have covered

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or alluded to,

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very much.

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According to the orientalist are many of the orient

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the soom now is not important is when

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according to the according to the

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many of them playing

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books because

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they claim that the sooner was not considered to be something important by the

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time I recorded. This as soon as self was not important, it is not considered an important source of law.

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is a claim to claim and it was the son of

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a man

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so it wasn't important

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to them and still

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what they

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170 Something is wrong running

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around running

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government work this week

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205 Exactly. Yeah.

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You can't believe.

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now what, what's the point is occurred to me that we refuted? Or what would they say that? What was the actual goal?

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That's worse than saying it was recorded this time, then it's important only this time it was done with that one, because there was a

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source of

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I mean, that

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was not important to me.

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Because this is what we were talking about.

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Again, it's not important, they didn't consider important you think they preserved

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Sooner wasn't important to hear that. That means the Muslims didn't care about recording and are not recorded. And that's, that's the goal.

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But we would like to ensure if we go back to our discussion of importance of the center, one of the sections that have on their view towards

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you, they

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assume that the most the second to the Quran, when it comes to

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the business.

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And also, we discussed another example today, and this

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journey is in search of heavy feminine surgeons, it was important, they were spent one month to pick one or

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the other.

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And because of the legal

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so their goal was a fantasy. And you see this also in some Muslim writings, who've been influenced by

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the terms are very important. And what they are. Therefore,

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we show that the hover

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from the time of travel search of headings, we showed this

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they recorded the heading, we should also

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use this method to make sure that the Hadees was transmitted properly.

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From especially,

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I could give you some examples, but they're mostly meant that they don't

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Though, the thing that

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shows us what the SEC from the earliest periods of is

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something that was important. They felt the searches hate to make sure it

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make sure they memorize a property or they have property records. And they also use

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try to prove this before

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they bring some stories that look there was this problem and no one said any heavy regarding this problem. And then we get just the

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theory of the

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project. Exactly.

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you just the series that we discussed last time because he said well, it was important.

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So then they had to create a business back to the problem.

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And as he says the veteran is not strongly the

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question about these. These are some things that are not really mentioned that much in the books.

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Today we're going to begin with the normal.

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They are very important when we consider how the something that was preserved

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as a lesson

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Then we're going to discuss how the how

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to pass on from one generation to the next.

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Scholars have discussed in detail how someone passed at ease from one person on to the next.

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This refers to how it was passed on from one person to the next.

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During the time of the film, what were the ways that the buffet system conveyed this to his folks?

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How does the public doesn't have given it to this folks?

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doing it?

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Someone asked him a question. And he did not answer

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when he just showed him the answer.

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What about the one who came to ask him about the time

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he paid

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minutes from the time of finish

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the first day and at the end of the second day,

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someone asked

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for the prayer.

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And he did not ask him directly, but he told him the first day he prayed all the first

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and then the second day right older versus the latest time and he said was the one who asked he said between these two times

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and also the

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also the salaries to do the thing.

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these delays may go on they are going to go on exactly the same way promises in the middle.

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What's the third way?

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3d is another

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now the hava from the time of the public

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domain they were very careful about that.

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Many, many,

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many Sahaba who did not admit it,

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they very rarely would say anybody was

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Many of them

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are attending because they're afraid to add even just a letter to the

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many of them used to perspire, when they're nervous.

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And always at the end, when they're finished news to come upon

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the tradition goes back to them

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know, what's happening was among the, among the Sahaba themselves, we had people who specialized in memorizing

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and one of those hobbies

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How come I don't use every penny

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is that there was I went to the same place that they went to, they heard the same thing. But I did not study after that. So therefore, I lost something while

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for example, used to split the night into three parts. One third for sneaking one third, for branding with the city.

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Also some of the most obvious

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studying watches for

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repeating with him.

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So they're very careful and careful. Let's do this. Same thing. But how exactly should

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we transmit

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the same

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idea came up, come up with eight ways. Eight ways to test