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“Inheritance” with Ibraheem Menk & Adnaan Menk

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. We were actually on chef Ibrahim minx live. And I think that the internet was not that good. So we will try it on my channel. And after that,

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Allah we will discuss this topic on a different day. Basically, we were speaking about inheritance. It's

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Salaam Aleykum off to LA vaca alikum Salam O Allah Baraka.

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How are you? Sure.

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I see one of my school friends from quite a few years ago joining the chat and my welcome

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Mashallah, is that Ali? Yes. Mashallah, Mashallah lovely, seems to be working a bit better. Basically, we began on shift by him his channel, we were speaking about inheritance. And I think that, before we begin, we must remember a lot of people think that Islamic inheritance is oppressive, we give less to the women always a woman always inherits half of a man. When we examine this, this is not really true. In fact, if we look at a lot of muscle, a lot of the inheritance, we find that the females inherit more than males, in many, many, many of these muscles. I give you an example, if a person had to die, and he left two daughters, and one uncle, here, the daughters take

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two thirds of the wealth, and the uncle only takes a third. And there are many examples. Yes, sometimes the men inherit more, and sometimes the women inherit more or the females.

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Yes, yes, yes. Well, we were talking about far if and I think fold actually means that which is obligatory. So would that have any link to the meaning that follow you literally gives.

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So functor has many different meanings. I think one of them is a cover in the Arabic language to cut. So basically, Allah Subhana, which Allah has decided that when it comes to this ruling, it stops here, he's basically cut it fine. And this is how it will work. As for what it means in Islamic jurisprudence, as we mentioned before, it's knowledge of knowing who inherits who doesn't inherit. And if they are inheriting How much do they inherit?

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Yes, yes. So basically, it's cut off there. That's the shade. And that was a potion to them by our maker, Allah. So he has decided who receive what Because ultimately, he knows who's more deserving of what. And that's very important for us to mention, because people today have decided for themselves, you know, I like so and so, more, so I'm going to give them more of a shake. And would it be possible for a person during the lifetime whilst they're healthy to decide how to distribute their wealth, and give it right then, and they before they even pass on?

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This is a common masala or masala that occurs in today's world. And it's quite common because we find a lot of people fighting. And what happens is sometimes a person especially when they've lived a lot of wealth, sometimes they inherit this fight. And this one says this is for me, and this one says this is not for me. And let's say he's lived four different types of buildings, how do they decide, and these cases remain in the courts for a long time. So some people after asking a lot of scholars, and not what the intent was having a good intention, not intending to prevent anyone from the right shape, or their true shape. They decided to give away their wealth during their lifetime.

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And they were still when a person is healthy, and he knows what's going on. Even in law, he's allowed to do that. How does he distributed? Is it according to the actual Maoris? According to the actual shape that Allah mentions after he dies? Or is it different? It is detail in that.

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Okay, okay. Okay. I always assume that it would be okay for him to decide what he wants to give since his and to whom he wants to give since he's still alive. He hasn't passed on. But that's an interesting thing where you say there's some detail in that. So in that a person can also be protected from those who decide they're healthy, but they're old and they want to just distribute their wealth however they want however they'd like to. So there's a protection for the rest of the people that are lots of animal what Allah has given, according to inheritance. You know, something interesting, a teacher of ours once told us that a man passed away and his wife, you know, inherited

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what she was what she was supposed to inherit something. And the brother decided that I'm going to steal everything.

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So he took everything even Hershey, and he went to him with it. And years later, this woman or sometime later, she got married to the brother. And she began to live with the brother and the brother passed on. So she inherited Not only that, which have previous husband had, but also what the brother had as well. So Allah subhanho wa Taala wanted to give her the share of the previous husband and the current husband. So he basically delayed it, and this man had usurped her right, in order for her to receive more later on.

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You know, Justice always prevails, whether we see it in this world or in the next it always prevails. And that is the law of Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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Yes, yes, you know, there's a lot of people fighting, it's actually very sad to see today how people are fighting over money over wealth and whether you know, the inheritance was done islamically or not, they seem to be at each other's throats, sometimes reaching a point in some places where they plot and plan murders against each other. So it's important for us to discuss this and get it out there, tell people encourage them to follow the law of Allah subhanho wa Taala. And, in in different cultures, especially you find like in the Indian Pakistani culture, the sons come home, they work with the with the parents, only some of them work. And that's where there's a lot of problems. So

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during the lifetime of the Father, they never tell the father to talk about this, they never speak to him about it, they feel it's a taboo to speak about it. Because how can you talk about your father's death? You know, so I think this type of discussion really helps where people can feel that it's a topic that needs to be addressed. And they can actually address it.

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As you mentioned, it's a topic that's very deep and needs to be addressed, who's, who owns what and who will be given what etc. Also, when it comes to, as you mentioned, and we mentioned it before, and we'll just recap, if let's say there's a group of brothers, five of them, and only one is working with the business or two are working. After the father dies, as you mentioned, the ones who are working feel they deserve more, because they were working, they help build the Empire, if it's inheritance, all five deserve their shares equally, all five boys, it's not according to how much you worked. However, if you feel it's unfair, you can take a salary, small wage, or the wage that is

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suitable for the work you are putting forth for the business or your father's Empire, as we mentioned. So you take a wage, however, when it comes to inheritance, if your inheritance doesn't fluctuate, or go up and down, according to how much you helped your father, or you help your mother.

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Yes, so that means basically, if the person is feeling

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pain during lifetime, they

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come and say, Look, guys, I'm working here, I'm doing X, Y, and Z, I deserve something that is reasonable. So in that case, he wouldn't be wrong. But if he waits right until the Father has passed on, then that is, for lack of a better word, he's tough luck, he should have spoken during the lifetime of his father, rather than waiting for a time where it is all now decided by Allah subhanho wa Taala. And we have no choice in that. So we would be sinful to them usurp the right of another human being.

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Yes, I think it goes back to sometimes what happens is if there's an agreement in place, but let's say he hasn't been paid, so let's say they agreed that he would be getting a wage, but because he was shy, he didn't ask the Father 234 years us here, because he's owed that money. So after the father dies, we'll take it from the inheritance first, as they can give it to him. After that, we'll give the inheritance however, as you mentioned, if he didn't say anything, and he went to work out of his own good work for free, and then after the father dies, he wants more than this is incorrect.

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Is your so for him to go to work and then decide that

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all of a sudden he wants something more, because the Father has passed on that would be wrong. If he's owed it, then he should be paid out from the inheritance before anything else. But that's if he is owed that money, and it was decided during the life of his father.

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Yes, yes. Yes. There was a question here, shall we take a look at it?

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It's certainly two words. It's just basically a, a, a comment. We are personally saying it's certainly taboo to talk about this in South Asian families and so many more topics.

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That

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I think sometimes it's

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sometimes

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It's a bit difficult to generalize. But this is a problem not only in South Asia, but in the in the world as a whole. I think maybe because we know South Asia or whatever, because we see it more. However, it's quite apparent this problem wherever you go, you will find it. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. So this person says that, so does it mean that then it is a bad idea or not a good idea to work with the father at all, because in the end, you will get just get the same. This, I think is, is not true. If you're working for your father, remember, number one, you're working for a good livelihood. And number two, you're working with your father. So in addition to having an employee and a good

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employer and a good income, you are doing a service to your parents. So what more do you want, this would be actually very, very rewarding. And if you look at the reward of it in the area, if you've done it with the right and sincere intention, then Allah subhana wa Taala, will provide you with so much more than the material wealth of this world.

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I think as you mentioned that it's more than money, there's the reward aspect of it. However, at the same time, if you feel that, let's say it's a big business, or you don't want to work with it, you know, you don't have to burn your bridge and say, I'm not doing it, sit down, discuss, see the best way forward, maybe you can take a lesser role. At the same time, like any business, imagine your father, all of a sudden, you leave him one day to look after everything, you are an asset to that business, maybe you ran it full time, and all of a sudden, you're gone. So maybe you take a lesser role, but you must discuss these things. You can't just wake up and make a haphazard decision and

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say, I'm going now. And then you go there another thing. People don't realize when you need to build a business from scratch, let's say your father is established. He's been there for 2030 years, and then you go and why do you want to go and build it from scratch? Well, if you want to, you should know that it's difficult. But as we mentioned, don't burn the bridges. It's bigger than money, there's a lot of reward, that work is promised for a person who actually helps the parents and the father. And remember your father, he probably opened that business and the money from that business was used to sustain you and to support you, when you were growing up from when you were a little

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child all the way to your school, your high school. And after that you got married three, he opened that yes, he benefited but it was mainly for you as the children.

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Yes, we tend to forget this that you know, our parents did so much for us. And we were the people beneficiaries of that. We really enjoyed the benefit of it. We went to school, we went to high school we went to university did what we wanted, studied what we wanted. And now when the time comes, there's nobody else to look after it for example, and you want to do something sometimes you might even want to sacrifice what you want to do in order to serve your parents goal or in order to help the family at large there's nothing wrong with that. But at the same time if you can achieve your goals and do what you want to do, and not discard your parents business or their goals, their

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ambitions, their desires, and do both Alhamdulillah in this the best of both worlds and you think Allah subhanho wa Taala so this I think this is a very very interesting topical handling even handler we talking about the topic and I want to say welcome salam, O Allah Baraka to Brother Rahim and I don't mean to blow his trumpet, but I have sat with him Mashallah very wealthy businessman, Allah grunting Baraka and goodness. He is exactly what we talking about how the business started and how he helps his father. This is somebody who's joined the chat, the exact topic we talking about. We see him so Joseph Allah Hi, Yvonne. I think inshallah, one day we should sit and interview him.

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He's got a very interesting story.

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Insha Allah insha Allah? Absolutely, I can see his just put a, an emoji there to say he's acknowledged Alhamdulillah it's lovely to have you and to have everybody who's joined us well, hamdulillah inshallah, we'd love to hear your story one day Bismillah. Tada. Shahada just piqued our interest as to what your story is now. So I think people would want to hear

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while I shall know we will mention the story. Getting back to the topic, we were talking about inheritance. So let's say somebody during the lifetime of the Father, the father had a business and his left a lot of wealth.

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The inheritance goes according to what Allah decided and not according to how much you took or you put in terms of time and effort in that actual business.

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Yeah, you know, I'd like to raise a question for those who want to usurp the rights of others.

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are planning to do it or who have done it already. I'd like to raise a question for you. Imagine you steal that wealth today, you take it from another person's Shay. And tomorrow you dropped it, you need to think about these things because it's possible the same way that this person who whom you are inheriting from has passed on, you will also pass on and you will definitely pass on it is possible, you can do it the moments after you have stolen the wealth of another. So don't take the share of another person. Remember that no matter how hard you work with your father, if you have not had any agreement during his lifetime, distribute it equally. Remember that Well, here are two

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higher up, and the hill is better and more long lasting, you'll achieve a little bit of wealth in this dunya you won't even get anything good out of it because you stole it. Whereas if you are to distributed equally and fairly, then Allah subhanho wa Taala will most definitely reward you in this dunya. And in the US.

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Yes, and another important thing to mention is the delaying of the distribution of wealth. If, for example, the everybody who deserves that money is grown up and able to take their wealth, don't delay them. Sometimes the daughters are married and they may not be married into as wealthy families or they may not have much. However, if they have a share in that inheritance that is this, whether it's half or three quarters, or whatever it may be, you must give it to them that is their right? If it is, for example, a car the father left to a business, you have to find a way now to distribute it, how you inshallah, maybe another day we'll speak about how it's actually valued. And then how do

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you distribute it? What if they don't want to sell the business? Who pays who out but I want to get to is, we shouldn't be delaying five and 10 and 20 years over wealth that is that actually belongs to somebody else, then what would happen is you will own this money, but then you died. Now your children are only 10 your grandchildren. And the wealth itself hasn't moved, it hasn't changed hands. It becomes very complicated at that point. Because who received what whether it was correctly distributed, how much was taken out of that wealth. In the meantime, somebody might have been using it. There's so much that goes into that. So it's so important for this to be distributed as soon as

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possible. sit together distributed can over and done with it. And hamdulillah you know that it's all done, and it's sealed. Alhamdulillah any other points that you can think of before we call it a Coca Cola an end to the discussion? I think it's a very interesting topic that needs to be spoken about in a lot of detail. For example, we need to speak about the wealth when somebody dies, what happens to this wealth? Do we go and distribute it immediately? Or what if he left? He was in debt? Do we give the debt first? What about the lasagna? The inheritance I think today basically we touched on inheritance and how it's important to give everybody their rights. It's also important not to delay

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unnecessarily. And as one of the brothers or sisters, I'm not sure put it rightly in the comments that Allah subhana wa Jalla mentioned this all in Surah Nisa, as we mentioned, when it came to inheritance, because it's something to do with money, and people are generally stingy and they want their share in full and they want to take from others also. Allah subhana wa Jalla didn't leave this for a newbie to decide or an angel to decide or is person to decide. He himself from above the seven heavens, he is the one who decided who will get what

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I said good internet connection, surely by him his internet is

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here, so it's probably use my internet. I was just gonna say that.

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Am I there now? Can you hear me? We can hear you. Okay. Alhamdulillah. So, basically what I was saying is that I think we should connect to your account next time in Sharla. And we can do it from here we will be late Adam because it's been. It's been good. Yeah, it's been good on on your

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Alhamdulillah I think sometimes it happens. I think sometimes it's better on us and sometimes it's better on mine. But nonetheless, inshallah we will speak about this topic in detail if there's any questions that anybody mentions, or anybody asks, we can look at them.

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Yes.

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Before getting to the questions, it's actually mentioned in one of the Hadith that authenticity is debated, however, is mentioned that this in this knowledge of a way this knowledge of inheritance, there will come a time when somebody who wants to actually

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Get their inheritance according to what Allah decided, they will find nobody to help them share out this wealth, if anything, this shows us the virtue of learning this knowledge how to divide, how to know who gets who gets what, and the shares that Allah subhana wa Taala mentioned. Also there is a mathematical parts related to this topic, you have to know how to divide and how to multiply and how to write out MSA.

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Yeah, you know,

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it's good that you mentioned this carrier carrier

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that somebody was mentioning an adopted child, an adopted child is not from it's not your child. However, as we mentioned, in your will, or your rasiya, you can write something for them. So in terms of inheritance, because it's not your lineage, so they wouldn't take anything. However, you can write them in your world to say, for example, after I pass away, so much money will this will go to the adopted child, as long as as we mentioned, it's not more than a third. And the one who you are writing this inheritance of this was sia will this will for is not from the inheritance. And in this case, your adopted child is not from your inheritance. There are some programs, computer

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programs and apps out there that decide what who deserves what do you do you know, any authentic apps that people can use in order to find some, you know, answers or solutions to their problems.

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They obviously are apps that have been programmed and so programmed according to what is mentioned by the last panel, what to highlight.

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You take them as a guideline, sometimes they could be a bug in the code, or they could be a mistake generally helps you if you practicing on them. However, it would be better if you ask somebody, you can recheck it with the app or whatever program they may be. But it's better you ask somebody how to do it, you ask a learned person, they can advise you also they can give you advice that the app cannot give you.

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Yes, someone says here if someone has already shared inheritance before the death of the Father, what should be done regarding this?

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I think we spoke about this. If you talking about the father's wealth, let's say the father had wealth, and before he died, he was healthy. And he distributed his wealth. As we mentioned before, and according to the details, we mentioned that that's okay. However, if he's on his last breath, and he wants to distribute everything we'll give here and they probably prevent certain people from inheriting men, he cannot do that.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Alhamdulillah. So there's a lot of people who have joined Mashallah, it's a very interesting topic. And I think there's been a lot of benefit as well, she had none. Anything we can add, before we Yes. Why does this? Someone asked a question here? Yes.

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Why does the girl get much less, I mean, have six children, three girls and three boys, the girls is working provided the family and always support the parents and the boys who is whose duty This is to do. So I think what they're saying, is this three boys, three girls, and why do the girls get less than the boys?

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I believe that answer to you.

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I think as we mentioned before, number one, let's take a broader look. Let's look at the broader picture. It's not always of the women or the females inherit less than the males. I'm choosing my words carefully here. It's not always that the females inherit less than the males. There are times in fact, on a lot of occasions, the females inherit more than the males. So for example, the example I gave you if a person dies, and he leaves behind two daughters, and one brother here, the daughters get more than the brother. However, in certain instances, the males do inherit more than the females. As for the daughter, who's maybe working to support the family, as we mentioned, that if

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she's working for the business, she must take her wage. And if not,

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obviously, I think sugar is frozen, obviously everybody will be working. And we must remember what Allah subhanho wa Taala has decided, ultimately comes to us. Another thing is when it comes to Africa and spending on people who are under under you, the males generally have to spend so we are not talking about specifics or a specific situation. We are giving you a guideline. As for everybody's situation, it's a little bit different. You know, an interesting story that someone told me recently he was saying that his parents didn't do it the right way.

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They didn't, you know, distribute the wealth correctly. And he actually wanted to go back and give who deserved what, properly and distribute it, you know, fairly, and make sure everyone got their [???]. And he was willing to give up his wealth in order to make sure that this is done properly, and everyone gets their fair share. So Pamela was just inspired by what he did, even though what he What if if he did this, he would have been left with nothing, nothing at all, literally. And he was willing to do it.

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Allah grant him goodness and amazing story. And as you mentioned before, we have to remember it's bigger than money here, there's reward involved, this obedience of parents involved. Sometimes it involves you looking after, for example, the people your parents used to look after maybe your father is to look after so many people, and he had friends, he has to look after the poor, then you have to try and carry on the noble work that your father once did, or your mother for that, in that case, if she left anything behind.

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You know, what I find amazing is that a lot of times this has to do with brothers and sisters, you know, and they lived their lives. So happily together for a long time. They loved each other, they respected each other. And all of a sudden, you know, they begin to look at themselves and their children, they need to remember the time that they loved each other so much. And they had so much respect for each other that they would not harm one another at all whatsoever that I think needs to be highlighted because people tend to forget those days and think about the money and the wealth and everything that's there. Rather than that, which is beyond wealth, and money and material.

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As you mentioned, these reward these the affair of these your grave, you will also die. You don't want that to happen to your children. You don't want somebody to come and take your children's wealth. So you shouldn't take the wealth of others. You shouldn't take that which isn't yours, put yourself in the shoes of the oppressed for a moment. And then you will understand or you will realize that oppression for somebody to carry out an injustice, he should be careful, you should make it so far if that has happened. As you mentioned, if it's happened, then you try to rectify it.

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And kondalilla do you think we should call it a day?

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I think so Alhamdulillah we benefited and we thank all the people who took up the time to follow the stream last last panel with Allah to grant you all goodness and beneficial knowledge. I mean, Chef Ibrahim we I will leave you there. calligraphy calm. Don't forget, this is your Don't forget, this is your channel. This is your account. So you've got to save it and share it or at least try to share it on to your story in Sharla. So that at least people will have access to it for 24 hours.

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This is the first time I've actually used the life this the first time I'm using it. I don't really know how to use it. But I wanted to mention this I was sitting and thinking about this and obviously is the father of Allah subhanho wa Taala and after that because of what's going on in the world. This is why we're doing this program. I don't think if everybody was locked up we would be sitting like this and doing this. So sometimes you may see something as being difficult however the fruits and benefits that come out of it well as a tech revolution,

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you know, perhaps you despise something and it is good for you. So there are positives that come out of such situations Alhamdulillah

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Allah he had now I'm going to log out and then each other You can end the video with me later Allah And don't forget that inshallah. When it's shift Adnan's turn to come on the life then basically what we'll do is come on to his channel. Leave me like Tada. And that way they will be more benefit. I think he's internet is better. Okay, does that

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mean we Kamala Khan Salam Rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh