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“Anxiety & Depression” with Ibraheem Menk & Adnaan Menk

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Salam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu Welcome back to podcast on the live with Chef Adnan.

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inshallah, we will be waiting for chef Adnan to join the evening lanie Tada, and then we will commence. Today's topic is very, very, very interesting. And that is to do with anxiety and depression, how many, many people are suffering from anxiety, they're worried they're depressed, they don't know how to do how to go about the topic today is neglect, either, and we hope to come up with some Islamic remedies and solutions to this.

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why they can sell them often. It's a lie a lot of care to how you shift that nut hamdulillah How are you? I hope you're well, and I hope everybody else was following along well, Alhamdulillah I'm really well. And exactly, we hope that everybody that's joined is

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in good health and enjoying themselves. So inshallah, today's topic we were going to discuss anxiety and depression. And basically, you know, some of the reasons for this, and some of the solutions perhaps that a person finds in this area in Islam. So today, we find a lot of people are worried as to what's going to happen in the future. They're worried about the past, they're anxious about the current day lives and what's going on, where they are headed in the lives where they are, and what is going to happen, basically. So how can we address this? Or what how does Islam see anxiety, depression, sadness? Are there any areas that you can enlighten us with Heidi something

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similar, like manner, Rahim, speaking about anxiety, depression, sadness, all different things, but come under the same umbrella, we have to take a step back. And we have to look at sadness and depression, sadness in and in and of itself is of different levels. So sometimes you have that natural sadness, something happens, it's normal and natural to be sad for a little while, you know, sometimes you might lose your job, you might lose a loved one, you might lose something. And that's normal. Also, when it comes to fear, for example, is fear, which is normal, you see a lion, you see the same when it comes to sadness, it's of different levels. So when it comes to sadness, that's

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normal, natural, yes, you may grieve over it. You may be sad, a day or two, and you carry on and you move on. However, what's not allowed in the Sharia what's prohibited, we could say, is that type of depression that takes you to, you know, it takes you to a different pathway, you start having all weird and funny thoughts, you want to take your life or you want to do silly things, or you think you would lock yourself in a room for example. So I think sadness is of different levels.

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Yes, we find you know, in the Quran, Allah subhanho wa Taala has only mentioned the sadness was a negative connotation. So if we see like letter in a wallet, then don't become weak. And don't be sad. So Allah kind of what Allah is telling you clearly not to be sad. alsways is in lemenager wamena Shivani, Leah zunar lilina amor, indeed secret speeches that are held, are from shavon to make the believers sad. So lots of kind of what Allah is telling us that sadness ultimately, is actually a tool of Shaban that he used to get you vulnerable and then introduce something harm to you. And ultimately, what can be worse than you having bad thoughts of Allah subhanho wa Taala

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because you're depressed because you're sad, you begin to question and wonder. So it's very interesting that it's only mentioned with a sad connotation in Nepal. And

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yes, also when Rasulullah salallahu alayhi wa sallam, he faced a lot of trials, tribulations persecution, people said things people did things people plotted against him against him. Allah subhanho wa Taala says, Well, according

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to certain can be nice, my Apolo for Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam we know that what they are talking about, it makes your chest narrow. The least we could say is this some sort of uneasiness in your chest. Then Allah says he gives him the cure for 70 hamdulillah. beaker, welcome Mina tragedy back ahead at UCLA. As you mentioned previously, it's all to do with you try and build your relationship with Allah. You try to increase in your Salah you try to

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Increase in your Vicar sometimes you may be reading your Salah you may be doing quite a bit of Vicar but as we mentioned before, sometimes a something natural occurs and you become sad, increasing that and it's normal for a little while to be sad but then you must carry on we're not promoting it we're not saying you should be set, as you mentioned, is mentioned in a in a negative light. However, you have to look at your next mission, your next target and you have to try and move on. Yeah, that that solution that you gave is amazing because Allah subhanho wa Taala says, For Serbia, we have a deal breaker or communist surgeon that make tests V with the praises of your A and B from amongst those

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who do the surgery. They're basically the prostration and this refers to the Salah that we perform. Why does a muscle kind of want to add a C prostration specifically because that's where a person is closest to the maker, adobo Maya Kunal abdomen lobby what was Sajid whilst is in frustration. And interestingly, this is the very reason why we believe we were created in the first place. So identifying what that purpose of existence takes you out of the depression out of that anxiety. Because we know we were born with filth on, you know, on natural, the nature of the natural disposition of worshipping Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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Something to try. If you're feeling sad, you're feeling down the scholars give an example. They say let's say a child is being naughty, and he his mother expels him from the house locks the door on him. And this child carries on crying and knocking at the door knocking knocking knocking knocking, the mother will eventually open. So we're not comparing this to Allah subhanho wa Taala when you learn him method, but imagine somebody who said depressed so to speak the anxious a lot of anxiety, whenever you feel that just try it try and perform your Salah and you know elongate your Roku and your sajida your frustration especially an ask Allah carry on asking him ask him and you will find

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some Hana ladies and E's which you will not find anywhere else.

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Yes, and ultimately the person that you asking he or the being sorry, the being that you asking, in his control is your heart and your emotions. So you know the Hadith says that

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a Guru bobina is by any means a Soviet man, you can label her kifissia that the hearts are between two fingers of the fingers of a man he

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turns their emotions and he changes their conditions as he wishes. So ultimately your sadness Your happiness is with Allah subhanho wa Taala. So if you keep asking, this being who is Alhambra? He mean, do you think he will not respond to you? Do you think he will not remove that from you? And there is absolutely no reason to become depressed. But at the same time, yes, there are certain instances in our lives when we feel sad like Muhammad SAW Selim felt sad when his son passed away. So he was crying and tell him that some of the love Arica attempt ki Are you crying? Didn't you stop us from crying? And then he continues to his of Allah wa sallam explains very clearly, that have you

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here. This is a Yama from Allah subhanho wa Taala it's normal. We are human beings, we become sad tomorrow line. Or then we can

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let the ideas and this heart hard to become sad. And we only save that which pleases Allah subhanho wa Taala. So even in your sadness, you shouldn't be saying and doing things that displease Allah subhanho wa Taala. Yes, you are sad. But ultimately, you submit to the your maker and who he is, you understand?

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Yes, and adding to what you've said, I met a person recently this year, and he was telling me about some of the difficulties he went through all related to depression, anxiety and sadness. And what's interesting, he says that, when I started, I basically asked him that so how did you get out of it, you know, now you're normal. And if somebody had to see you, they would not imagine that, you know, what, you you went through all this, you know, he lost a lot of money. And sometimes when you lose a lot of money, things happen. He says, I started helping people. I went out and started helping whoever I could, I would go here and

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this one and this one and this one, and eventually Allah help me

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on low fionnula Dima kennela dupioni he 100% that Allah is helping you so long as you are helping your brother. So that is an amazing solution for a person you're involved in. You you've got some problem, anxiety, depression, you try and help others you try and support them. You try

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to go out and make it easy, whatever problems a person may be facing, you try and alleviate them of their suffering. And Allah subhanho wa Taala will alleviate your suffering. So, yes, that we've discussed a few solutions here. What other ways can we think of ways a person can actually pull themselves out of this rut that they find themselves in?

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As the hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam says, on voru illa men who fell I mean, go look at those who are less fortunate to have less than you, you know, sometimes you sad about something, you've lost a person, you've lost a family member, there are others who have lost many more people, you become ill, there's others who've lost hand with others who have lost legs. Sometimes the reason for our sadness, especially in the material world we are living in is because we are looking up, we are looking up at those who have things that we don't have. A lot of times our sadness is to do with something material is to do because somebody's got more money, somebody got a

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better house, somebody got a better car. And because of the world we live in, we find that we just looking looking looking up at those who have more time Look down time for take us take a moment to appreciate what you have. And that Bismillah is also a solution. Because you will realize sometimes that what I'm sad for what I'm depressed for these people who have way less than me, and they are living normal lives, they are very happy.

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So how Allah Subhana Allah, that's so true. When when we live our lives generally as we live in our lives, we look at those who have better cars, Better Homes, better businesses, they have eat better than us in our eyes. But in reality, we don't realize that even those people that we're looking at have got their own challenges, perhaps behind closed doors, they are suffering, they've got other problems that we are not aware of. So they may have it easy in one way. But sometimes a person has materially so much more, but their health, they're suffering with their health, they don't have good health unless you kind of want to have blessed us in that way. So we got to focus on what we have a

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Nautilus what kind of hotel has given us. Absolutely, you know, I also find that that and Reba will cover that being happy with the decree of Allah subhanho wa Taala. Just being happy that you woke up today is granted you so much in your life, looking at it, being happy with whatever he decides for you, whether it is positive or negative, you see it as something negative, something bad, know that Allah subhanho wa Taala ultimately will reward you if you deal with it in the right manner. So when a person becomes happy with the decree of Allah subhanho wa Taala, then they're truly wealthy. And that's why the hadith of Rasulullah saw Salaam says when I came in Lena, Lena, that, you know,

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wealth is or independence is the independence and wealth of the heart. When a person is independent in their heart, they are happy with what ever happens. Whatever Allah subhanho wa Taala has decreed for them.

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Yes, very true. 100% also what a person should remember, when you are feeling depressed and you're feeling sad, naturally, you just want to sit, you want to be alone, you don't want to do anything. You want to think about everything that's wrong, try and change your physical state, go out, do some exercise, try and do something. You know, I was listening to somebody who is he's really what he says is that when you change your physical state, or you try and do something, then your mind will follow. And when I was reading the hadith of Rasulullah, sallAllahu, alayhi wasallam. In a long Hadith, one of the things he mentions, he says we're making use of beautiful luck, basically the one

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who tries to be patient, you know, you you bearing patients trying to do something, you actually doing something about it, you being patient, you're going to be given a lot less than what Allah will grant you that patients he'll grant you the ability to move on and overcome the challenges that you are going through.

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Yes, I think when it comes to sober A lot of people have this misconception that they shouldn't try to rectify the situation that they in. So they are suffering at home and they feel like you know, I can't talk about it. Let me have supper or someone tells them you're in a physically abusive marriage, you know, continue in it, it doesn't matter. Have somebody have patience, that not that is not really what summer is, but sober is to try and change the condition around you at the same time. thanking Allah subhanho wa Taala that what ever you have decreed for me the outcome. Ultimately I have raised my hands and surrender to your decree.

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Yes, also, when we look at the life of Rasulullah Salah

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While he was seldom when we look at the difficulties that he went through, if it was one of us looking back, and we could say, studying his life commentating, we could have said that because of all these difficulties, he could have stopped his mission, sat back, relaxed. You know, he was sad, but as you mentioned, he did something about it.

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Yes, yes, yes. Allah subhana wa tada actually says that perhaps you will destroy yourself, Allah, Allah.

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Allah, Allah 1311, you know,

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you will become so sad that it will literally destroy you, correct me if back here means to, to destroy yourself, you know, better on Neff. Second, you will destroy yourself upon their footsteps, with the sadness that they are not believing in Allah subhanho wa Taala. So that also points to the fact that what others do is not within your control, it is their choice, they've decided to do it to you, or to another human being that is not in your control, you have to do your best to maintain the happiness within your heart, to control your emotions to make sure that you detach yourself emotionally from such people. Because sometimes you find a person in an abusive, abusive

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relationship with their parents, or the you know, uncles or whatever it is, it doesn't matter or even a spouse, for that matter, a wife or the husband, and the person just can't take it any longer. And they are stuck in that type of situation, because it's family, or it's someone close to them. In that case, you've got to detach yourself emotionally, and know that Allah subhanho wa Taala, knows what you are going through. And ultimately he can and will grant you that happiness. If you believe in Him and you think good of him.

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It's very important that you spoke about the emotional attachment. A lot of times when you are emotionally attached to somebody or something. It's human nature, they will hurt you, you will be hurt in one way or another. So that's extremely important. Another extremely important point to mention is if you look at somebody who says that I'm depressed, I'm sad, if you really dissect and study what they speaking about, I'm talking about somebody who's lost their jobs, somebody who's lost somebody, somebody who's lost something material, they've mainly taken this as an excuse, as an excuse to stop them from doing anything else. And you know what, to prove a point to say that I am

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entitled now, because this happened. I'm entitled to sit back. One of the ways you can rectify your depression, your anxiety or sadness is Don't make excuses for yourself. Don't accept any excuses, anything happens, you're in a difficult relationship, you're in a place where you can't really be productive, find ways find means to do things be resourceful.

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Yes, yes. You know, obviously, they are medically induced, you know, or medically caused depressions anxiety, people suffer from anxiety and depression for various reasons. And we're not denying these 100% some people genuinely have a mental condition that that is not their fault. They didn't contribute to in any way whatsoever. It's just a chemical imbalance in the mind. And at the same time, we need to remove the stigma that is attached to being anxious and depressed. You know, a lot of people can't accept that they're depressed. Because there's a stigma attached to it in society, look at that person, they've got mental problems, they've got emotional problems, yet, it is just a

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phase in their lives that if they had the right support, and help from people around them,

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then they would have been lifted out of that problem. So I think the stigma needs to be removed from this type of problem.

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And as we mentioned, previously, you must try and help whoever you can, you know, sometimes your life may be going 100% correct. You've got no problems. Tomorrow, you can wake up and your life can change in an instance with you're in a blink of an eye. And so we must remember that we can't always look at ourselves and think it won't happen to me something like this. No, it may happen to you. So if you've taken out your time and your effort and you've helped people when you are able to be vanilla, Allah will also have mercy on you when it is your time or if you may go through a difficult situation. Yes, yes sympathizing with those who are going through such problems if is of utmost

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importance. A lot of times you find people you know, just pass it off like is it as if it's nothing

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You know, it doesn't mean anything, why are you depressed? You know, they look at it like as if it's something that's just trivial, whereas sympathizing with such a person lending them a helping hand, in the same manner that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam was always more of most benefits to the people. So if we become of benefit to others, then definitely Allah subhanho wa Taala will benefit us as well.

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As someone who

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is, someone was saying something interesting in the comments, to experience and appreciate highs requires to experience lows to, um, I think to appreciate, yes, I agree in a sense that, you know, a person who's

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been through lows in their life in their life and have had difficulty in their lives. When they ultimately go through a high they really enjoy it. And they really enjoy the positives of it because they've seen the other side of the coin. And the same goes for those who accept Islam, you know, a lot of them who revert to Islam, you find that they were in darkness, and they were without the light. So when they find it, they really appreciate it more than a lot of us who were born into Islam.

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Yes. And as Allah subhanho wa Taala says in the Quran, what will kill a young widow have been a nurse Basically, these days, these times goodness badness, you know, they go it's it's, as they say, the ball is round, some days, they'll be good and some days, they won't be as good. So you've got to, you know, manage it. If you're going through a difficult time difficult stage in your life, you know, have full conviction that this time will pass. Look at the story of Yusuf alayhi salam, we are full belly Sam did not lose hope he lost use of for so many years after that he lost. Binyamin after that the oldest son said he wouldn't go back after they couldn't return with Binyamin safely. He had

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lost three of them and jacobellis Sallam told the children go out again and carry on looking for them. Don't lose hope. Let's assume you're lucky enough to lay assuming.

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Basically Don't lose hope in the mercy of Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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is yes, even though you can't see the light it is ultimately there. Because Allah subhanho wa Taala his doors are always open the doors of Allah and turning to Allah subhanho wa Taala I think a lot of people also leave out Dora and calling out to Allah subhanho wa Taala. So they just completely abandoned this and feel as though they're never going to get out of this problem. Remember, there were days that were better, and they are days to come that are better inshallah.

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I think we've discussed quite a bit. She had anything to add. Yes, I think a quick recap is important. We spoke about,

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we spoke about sadaqa giving charity, I don't think we touched on that. But another thing that's important is to give sadaqa so that is not only what your money, you can give food, you can feed people, you can give your time to others with the correct intention, teach them something. So this is sadaqa. This patient somebody mentioned in the comments in the manual for saburo Nigella from the lady who said those who are patient, Allah will reward them, you know, without any measure unlimited basically. Also, another thing we mentioned is try and change. Don't be attached to anybody. Try and change your physical, you know, your physical nature. Try and get up and do something. Don't sit and

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be sad.

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Yes, yes, yes. Also, just to add at the end, we we need to mention that you can actually go to a doctor, find out what medications are available. There's nothing wrong with that. Try and find even traditional medications that may be available, and try and heal yourself. This is also part of the sooner or sooner Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he never just only said that I'm going to rely on the remedies that are mentioned in terms of spirituality, etc. But when he was sick, he asked for medication or he had doctors I was reading about how towards the end of his life, there were so many different medical people that came in and saw him sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. I was not aware of

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this earlier, but I found out that while I was reading this, I don't know how authentic This is. But we know that you definitely can seek medical advice seek help from people. Someone just mentioned that there is stuff that is self help online as well. So you can go and search for online you know the things that are required online.

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Like, I mean, your things, sorry, the things that are required, you can find them online as well, if you don't have access to a doctor or a medical expert,

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he is added to what you said having a good day. You know, I wouldn't say a click but a good mix of people around you people who have good character, good conduct, you know, when you deal with other people and you giving you taking the speaking, that relationship helps look at Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he says that, how Allah subhanho wa Taala took him and empower him as a highly, very close friend a of a very high rank. He then mentioned if he had to take anybody in this world as his honey, or as his friend, it would be a Baccarat city have a loved one even mentioned lacking. He was sahibi is my brother, and he's my companion. If you look at the life of Rasulullah,

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sallAllahu, alayhi wasallam, you will always find wherever he was almost always working with a loved one who was way

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sudama look at how Allah subhanho wa Taala speaks about them in the Quran when they were both in the cave. So what I'm trying to get to is that having a good company, people who you trust, even if it's one or two people, this helps you more than if you are just alone, keeping all your problems to yourself saying nothing, you know, discuss they could help you just discussing and letting that difficulty and that pressure out helps you tremendously. Is there any reason that a person is required to be depressed for and that's a very specific question depressed for in the in the

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in the corner? Anna? I think the only thing that a person should be sad for I wouldn't go as far as depressed. The reason why is a lot of times deep depression, then leads to people doing things which they don't really know what they're doing. But yes, when it comes to sadness in Islam, we talking about Yes, if somebody has committed a sin, or they were unable to do a good deed, sadness, but you specific question on depression? I don't know. Yes. So so that allows us thinking of how there was a scholar who said that it's only mentioned, you know, the sadness is only mentioned in a negative light. So I can't see how they would be depression that's encouraged in the poll, and because

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ultimately not not, not at all, encourage

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anybody, please show us?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely. Alhamdulillah I think we've had a very good session. Shall we wait for a few moments to for a few questions from the from the viewers. I think that's a good idea.

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Yes. Neela. So we'll just be waiting for your questions, guys. Please put them forth and being the light Allah will do our best to answer them.

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I know many of you have been through a lot of difficulty or hardship in your life, as most human beings have have been through some of us more than others, but only Allah subhanho wa Taala ultimately knows whose struggle is the most. So we ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to alleviate all our suffering. Do you see any questions?

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Adding to what we mentioned before, is reading the sila. The life of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam helps you a lot because you go into the environment wait Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was you able to see the difficulties that happened or that he faced in his life and how he overcame this? You know, it's like when you reading the CLS like someone is with you, holding you by your hand and walking you through difficulties and showing you the solutions. And that helps a lot along with the foreign along with the sooner but the sealer especially

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for lung that's so true, because that is why we are required to emulate the messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Like, Canada can feel azula he was worth 100 is a very good example. For you to follow in the example of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam because you know ultimately he suffered he went through problems depression,

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not depression, sorry, but problems he didn't let this lead him to depression. So you can actually find solutions in the Sunnah of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Have you noticed a question?

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I think somebody was asking about his of the Quran memorizing the Quran. very noble act and high reward be vanilla. I think we should keep that for another session. But maybe In brief, we can speak about it. Yes, yes, definitely. And also someone

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He says that please give the viewers a they can read. I think we can even you are more familiar with this story of a boomer. As far as I'm sure where the prophet SAW Selim went into the masjid and saw him at a time that it was not the time of Salah. Can you enlighten us?

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I

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am not. I remember the Hadith but it's not with me currently.

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Okay, okay, okay. No, so basically how about mama hallelujah lover and went into the masjid in the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam found him in the masjid at a time where it was not the time of salah and he says a Manny aka journey sent via heliox to Salah. So he responded by saying that, you know, I

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mean, they are anxieties that have you know, overcome me, or do you know and debts different types of debts. So Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam taught he made a lot of money to becoming an HMI well has an O Allah, I seek refuge in You from anxiety and difficulty, while I Gz will cancel. And in ability and laziness were well as evil castle will join me on booking and cowardice and being stingy, miserly. Well, hello, Betty Daniel region, and the overcoming of debt, you know, when a person is overcome by debt, and the overpowering of men, so we people are, you know, to authoritative over you. So this drama can be recited regularly, as far as I remember, there's

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mention of this being recited early in the morning, and in the evening, as well. And above all, Mama halabi Allahu anhu. He says that, as far as I'm sure it continues to say that he continued with this Dora, and they were only a few days that passed, except that Allah subhanho wa Taala fulfilled all of his debts and removed all the anxiety that he was in.

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So hon Allah Subhana Allah, amazing you say that I was actually reading this hadith a few days ago. And you know, sometimes you forget about the Hadith. And the point I want to mention yet, is sometimes when you tell a person that, you know you said read the seal, or they might say, I already read it, read this, I already read it. You can forget to go back or let somebody else remind you getting back to that Hadith that you mentioned. I was sitting and pondering over it. If you look at the first part, Allah Manero, the becoming alemi will hazard is seeking refuge seeking the protection of Allah from you know, anxiety and sadness and depression, anything that brings you

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down. He then says, what are all the becoming an agency well, castle, in ability and laziness, look at how that's mentioned straight after sadness. It says though, the headache is telling you that when you said and you sitting and you've got nothing to do, eventually, you'll have inability, and you'll also become lazy and you're just going to sit, so he also last Allahu Allahu wa sallam is teaching you to seek refuge and do something about it.

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Yes, yes, yes. And, you know, sometimes that inability, or sitting down and doing nothing can actually lead to anxiety and depression. So just sitting and doing nothing saying I if I try I failed anyway, so many times, why should I try? Why should I go on then? and give it a shot? And you just sit and think that there is no point in it anymore. That in itself can lead you to depression. So you write the bringing together of these is profound. Rasulullah sallallahu did it for a reason.

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Yes, and he was given Giovani will scan him he said very little, which contains so much meaning. Yes, yes. You know, I had this one experience where I gave this drug to a person and told him that you know, read this to our regularly and Allah subhanho wa Taala will remove what you are in Allah, He, this person's debts were over $2 million dollars. And within two years, Allah subhanho wa Taala opened up ways where he could not even imagine all of his debts were paid off. And he was completely debt free. He actually paid a 10th of what he was supposed to and he became debt free. So he came to me and he says, you know, this drama, I feel is the reason why Allah subhanho wa Taala. You know,

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he, he removed all of this debt from me, since I reached a point where I couldn't even look at the people I didn't want even to interact with them, didn't want to go out and do anything. But ultimately, I kept making this to I knew the Almighty is he hears me and Allah subhanho wa Taala removed his data and his anxiety. So I find that amazing. So Panama.

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panela and somebody might say that I'm reading this door and it's not working, it's not working. You must remember when you read your job, you have to be patient. It could happen the same day. But you also have to have conviction. You did you know, you mentioned $2 million or more. Some people, they may have a little bit we might say a little bit 100 $200 you know, don't think you're dead, even if it's in the billions is too big for Allah know, Allah subhanho wa Taala gives and he can give everything he can give you everything.

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Yes, ultimately, that's why Allah Akbar, Allah is the Greatest, you need to understand that nothing is too big for him. So that is why we continue to continually declare this Allah company knows Allah Allah work, but in the event, you acknowledge that nothing is bigger and greater than Allah subhana wa Tada. So when you start thinking that how is this debt going to be fulfilled? It's so big, it's so huge. And ultimately, what you're saying is that, you know, maybe, I don't know whether this will be removed by Allah subhanho wa Taala. Yet, he tells you that, and I think the only MDB that I am with myself as he thinks of me. So you think good of Allah subhanho wa Taala. Just the response may

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not have come right now. But I'm waiting. I have patience. I know that he knows, and he will remove me from this. And, you know, I know debt is another topic on its own. But when you take a debt I found one had is

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when you look, you know, limbs, or sorry, you loan some money?

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Yes, yes. When you take

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a loan from somebody, then basically, there's a hadith that says, the one who takes the wealth of people wanting to pay back a loan paid back for you, and the one who takes it wanting to destroy and use the wealth wasted, then Allah will waste him away, destroying him. So your intention is of utmost importance when you do such things. Well, law he I tell you, you know, you mentioned an experience of yours. And it's very important to mention these experiences because people relate more. A few months ago, I was with my father in one of the countries and we were sitting with a businessman, he was not a Muslim.

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He doesn't know that.

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What he mentioned, he says that we were speaking about debt and how people take on so much and they can't pay back. He said he doesn't know about it. He says, you know, when you take a loan from somebody, and you, you have the intention to pay it back, you'll be able to pay it back. And if you take a loan from somebody and your intention is bad in the first place, he's telling us you won't be able to pay back. Whoa, amazing. That's a an experience without him at an actual experience without him actually knowing the Hadith of the messenger. So

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sorry, he wasn't a Muslim either. He didn't know that he didn't he wasn't a Muslim. But he's telling us the words exactly mentioned in the Hadith. Allah here so that Carlos Sula, his sallallahu alayhi wa sallam 100% 100% she had none it's been a pleasure having you once again on the life is love.

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to all the viewers, it's been lovely chatting, and inshallah until we meet again.

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inshallah, I think there's a lot of interesting topics that are mentioned in the in the comments. Also, sometimes people may have interesting topics. I think it would be good if they mentioned them and maybe we can get them write them down, speak about them on other days be vanilla.

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Yes, absolutely. If anybody has any suggestions, please put them forth. You can even you know, direct message them to Shannon or myself in Sharla there's no problem with that. Or you can even mention it on the on the chat. And then inshallah we'll take you down.

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You know, the last point I wanted to mention these sessions are interesting and at the same time, inshallah beneficial you know, once we spoke about how when you learn, you learn in different ways, right now, when we are looking at the comments, we are also learning I'm learning from you, I'm learning from the people in the comments, you learn in different ways, by yourself, you can sit and read, you learn by yourself, you learn from a teacher, that's the second way or you learn amongst each other. And this was also from the practice of Sahaba hobbie Allahu anhu. They would say Come let's sit and remember a lot Let's sit and you know speak about Allah subhana wa Thailand and the

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religion so de como la halen, we thank you all especially those who are following and there are some names I think we've almost memorized them. So

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Mashallah, Mashallah Baraka level fucoidan Sharla and until we meet again on Wednesday evening, les tada

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Salam or aleikum

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wa Alaykum Salama