Manazil as-Sa’ireen #58 – Chapter on Knowledge

share this pageShare Page
Hatem al-Haj

Channel: Hatem al-Haj

Series:

Episode Notes

Episode Transcript

© No part of this transcript may be copied or referenced or transmitted in any way whatsoever. Transcripts are auto-generated and thus will be be inaccurate. We are working on a system to allow volunteers to edit transcripts in a controlled system.


00:00:03--> 00:00:05

Malanga Lhasa masala

00:00:07--> 00:00:28

to proceed. inshallah today we have Barbara Allen with a chapter on knowledge and the Babel courreges concept which is the chapter of paying zakat. In Bab M or the chapter of knowledge that Allah tala said Carla was a genuine alumna, whom in LaDonna, Alma

00:00:30--> 00:00:42

mighty said, and we had taught him from us a certain knowledge, we have taught him from us Mila, Dona means for from us directly.

00:00:43--> 00:01:17

And you must be aware of this particular verse, it's in Surah gafe. It's about father it's about the story of Muslim father, when Musa was instructed by Allah subhanaw taala to seek further and a lot of them that we have taught him from us, meaning not through you, directly from us. And that is why this is called the by Samuel L mela, Donnie and Miller don't need does not mean much that lead from the donated just means from us.

00:01:19--> 00:01:22

But it you know, an adjective was was made out of it.

00:01:26--> 00:01:29

And that is fine as long as we correctly understand what it means.

00:01:31--> 00:01:34

And as even harder said that it would be

00:01:36--> 00:01:37

essential

00:01:39--> 00:01:42

to believe and the profit would have been harder

00:01:43--> 00:01:47

in order to basically refute blasphemy

00:01:49--> 00:02:04

or heresy. That would or or heretics that would use the story of mother and father as a pretext for violating the Dr. Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam.

00:02:06--> 00:02:18

And basically creating a dichotomy between unhappy carniceria creating, like a divorce between a happy heart, the truth, the spiritual truth,

00:02:19--> 00:02:35

which they claim to be inspired of, directly by Allah subhanaw taala, and the Sharia the way the Prophet sallallahu Sallam that he instructed us and that was conveyed to us in the Quran, and the Sunnah,

00:02:38--> 00:02:47

and understood by the righteous predecessors, transmitted by the great Imams and the counterparts.

00:02:48--> 00:02:54

So while I'm not here means we have taught him from us directly,

00:02:56--> 00:03:08

certain knowledge and knowledge of certainty, clear knowledge, certain knowledge, and another was thought, certainly by Allah subhanaw taala. And it is nice to go over the story of a father because it has,

00:03:10--> 00:03:10

like,

00:03:11--> 00:03:26

has sort of like a form of instantiation of the answer of the problem of evil. And that's the way of the parameter Bill emsella given parables and examples because instantiation to make instances of certain concepts,

00:03:29--> 00:03:36

or to crystallize certain concepts by providing instances, were examples, parables,

00:03:37--> 00:03:40

that is certainly much easier for people to learn and to grasp.

00:03:42--> 00:03:45

And the problem of evil is answered and

00:03:46--> 00:03:57

in the story of a father, if you if you think what you saw is evil. And if you were particularly

00:04:00--> 00:04:28

taken aback, but by what you have seen me do, then here is the explanation. The master plan, what you have seen is only what you can see from your angle, from your perspective, which is basically limited. But here is part of the master plan, I will not allow the descent to Moosa that your knowledge and my knowledge and the knowledge of everyone else's, like this bird, you know,

00:04:29--> 00:04:31

picking a drop of water from the ocean,

00:04:32--> 00:04:34

or like actually

00:04:36--> 00:04:53

pushing down their beak into the notion and see what they get out of it. That's that's the knowledge of all people compared to the knowledge of Allah subhanaw taala basically another instantiation by uncover so when father told them that, you know,

00:04:54--> 00:04:59

part of the master plan that you have not been able to see is that

00:05:00--> 00:05:01

Behind the ship,

00:05:03--> 00:05:26

there there was this skin, you know, tyrannical king who used to wrongfully seize all good ships and he wanted to basically ruin this or create an a visible defect in the ship. So that the that can go without be disinterested in it would not want it and the rest of the story you know, the the boy that

00:05:27--> 00:05:30

was killed about her mother and the

00:05:31--> 00:05:34

daughter, the wall that he erected

00:05:36--> 00:05:42

and he explained to him why he did everything, so, and Carter may have been a prophet

00:05:44--> 00:06:12

but at the same time, Moosa was not sent to all humanity and that is something that we should be aware of that musala Islam was sent to Benny instead IE not to the entire humanity unlike the Prophet sallallahu Sallam he was sent to the you know agenda lens entire humanity and even Gen Omar Sonic a lot of metal a lot I mean we have not sent to you but as a mercy for all

00:06:14--> 00:06:21

creations basically but but certainly when it comes to the message to all you know liable creatures

00:06:25--> 00:06:29

because that's something important that's important to point out here.

00:06:30--> 00:06:31

And then the SEC started by

00:06:34--> 00:06:42

defining knowledge and usually you want to start with the definition and classification and then like if it is

00:06:43--> 00:06:55

something related to you we'll go over the definition and classification first and then the rulings afterwards. So everything that you know but everything you need to start with a definition you need to define what you're talking about.

00:06:56--> 00:07:45

So he said your alma cannot be the leading waterfowl Jan Oh Allah salata, jet, and Elma cannabidiol enology is that which is established through evidence, what I found and erased ignorance. You know, Rafa erased that ignorance? Well, so that's either a joke, and it is of three levels. So the MMR primer with the lead and waterfowl knowledge is whatever that is established the knowledge on evidence, or by evidence, or through evidence and erases ignorance. Now, that's the finishing of the sheath. Certainly this is not this is not a book of mantap. It is not a book of logic. It is not a book of all solid facts, our principles of jurisprudence, this is a scale book. So you don't want to

00:07:45--> 00:07:48

be too particular about, you know,

00:07:50--> 00:07:52

technicalities, right.

00:07:53--> 00:08:05

People in the you know, the masters of the scare, they don't worry too much about technicalities, because the benefit of the heart is the ultimate objective in their own

00:08:06--> 00:08:11

discipline, or the benefit of the heart is what they're after.

00:08:12--> 00:08:34

But since the gym started, and I don't want to turn this into an epistemology class, but since this started by the definition, and then the chief will also when he talks about the director ooda, he will talk about how knowledge is established, and we will come to it. But since the shift started, then we will have to also shed some light on the definition of knowledge and what knowledge is.

00:08:36--> 00:08:36

So

00:08:38--> 00:08:51

you don't have to the room by a person can, you know, like a very sort of remarkable book by an alumnus of the past and current rahimullah, it's called the object alone.

00:08:52--> 00:09:31

The ABCs of knowledge, you could say that could translated as the ABCs of knowledge. And in Abdullah alumier, he basically quoted 17 different definitions of knowledge. And these are all our definitions from our sort of heritage from arturas. He quoted 17 different definitions of knowledge and it would be a pleasure to actually go over the the definitions and see why he did not accept any of the 17 definitions. The discussion itself tells you about how to craft a definition because crafting a definition is extremely

00:09:33--> 00:09:48

serious business, it's not that easy to define something is pretty serious. So the read has refutation of the 17 definitions, not refutation necessarily but his reservations. His math is

00:09:49--> 00:10:00

on the 17 different definitions. That would be a nice, one of the definitions or like I'll give you just like one definition that he basically had some issues with

00:10:00--> 00:10:00

is

00:10:01--> 00:10:41

one definition that he eventually accepted. So, the definition of why the definition that he had an issue with was the definition of a mirage. He defined knowledge as capacity Jasmin martaba Mooji been in Missouri and Missouri and we will come back to it when we talk a little bit more from an epistemology epistemological perspective on the acquisition of knowledge. So, he said it is the latter part of you know, how they define knowledge in English or you know, Western definition of knowledge is true justified belief up until a year you know, basically had

00:10:42--> 00:10:57

his own reservations against the definition and they started restarted, like to discuss the definition all over again. But it hasn't been established that the definition of knowledge is true justified belief through justified belief.

00:10:58--> 00:11:01

But remember as he said that our Takada Jasmine matava

00:11:03--> 00:11:09

Rory m anniversary, so that God is belief jasm certain

00:11:11--> 00:11:12

consistent

00:11:13--> 00:11:50

basically consistent with what consistent with with the reality. So you don't only have a belief, but it is a true belief, true meaning consistent with reality. You know, it matches the reality your belief matches the reality. So a lot a part of jasmine matava lamouchi Blue Moon Mooji means justifiable, true, justified justified. So Mujib, meaning justifier something that justifies this knowledge, evidence, proof that justifies your knowledge. So even if you have knowledge, that is correct, consistent with reality,

00:11:51--> 00:12:09

but it is not justified. That's not considered knowledge. You know, to just know something without justification is not considered knowledge until you know it with its justification. So that the crowd and gentlemen will probably moodgym a majority.

00:12:13--> 00:12:28

It's either the UI and we will come back to the definition of the UI or another theory, these are the basically classification of different types of knowledge and we will come back to them or maybe we just talked about them now.

00:12:32--> 00:12:32

So

00:12:34--> 00:12:52

lamella buddy rahimullah mentioned in not mentioned he, he basically had the three verses in his mazuma in his poem on mantak it's called the Solomon mahna mahna

00:12:53--> 00:12:54

mahna.

00:12:56--> 00:13:00

It's about logic. And then in this he said

00:13:03--> 00:13:05

about the different types of knowledge

00:13:07--> 00:13:10

in Roku, McFadden

00:13:12--> 00:13:14

some Warren

00:13:18--> 00:13:19

Darko

00:13:20--> 00:13:23

Darko nice button

00:13:24--> 00:13:26

because the pain

00:13:28--> 00:13:29

was him.

00:13:34--> 00:13:39

What cut them an hour Allah and

00:13:40--> 00:13:41

Allah wa e

00:13:45--> 00:13:45

the

00:13:47--> 00:13:48

mocha the moon

00:13:55--> 00:13:56

one Nava very

00:14:00--> 00:14:01

much

00:14:04--> 00:14:06

live, Molly

00:14:09--> 00:14:11

work so

00:14:12--> 00:14:14

who have the road you?

00:14:16--> 00:14:17

I'm jelly.

00:14:21--> 00:14:25

So either means what rock means realization.

00:14:27--> 00:14:37

And most of this translation is not mine, but I tweaked it a little bit modified it a little bit. The Roku mcfaddin manfra is an individual object.

00:14:38--> 00:14:39

Individual

00:14:41--> 00:14:41

object.

00:14:43--> 00:14:45

That's a warren Odom

00:14:48--> 00:14:51

is known as known as

00:14:54--> 00:14:55

conception

00:14:57--> 00:14:58

conception

00:15:01--> 00:15:10

That is one type of knowledge every what he's talking about here he is basically telling us about the different types

00:15:11--> 00:15:15

of temporal knowledge the element had this, which is

00:15:16--> 00:15:21

termed temporal knowledge. Temporal knowledge is versus what

00:15:22--> 00:15:24

temporal knowledge

00:15:25--> 00:15:44

because we have two different types of knowledge. The first, the first bifurcation, the first bifurcation as we have a hedeman khadim, which is the pre existent knowledge, that's the knowledge of God, that's divine knowledge. It's called the endocardium pre existent knowledge and element had this is temporal knowledge.

00:15:45--> 00:15:59

That is, that's our knowledge, temporary knowledge. So he's talking here about an ultimate happiness or temporary knowledge. And all of this is about at the end we'll have this first type of it is the sub word conception. conception.

00:16:00--> 00:16:03

When you say ice is cold,

00:16:06--> 00:16:07

ice

00:16:08--> 00:16:09

is cold.

00:16:12--> 00:16:13

This is a preposition right?

00:16:15--> 00:16:21

But this preposition a you know, what, what we think of knowledge usually is what

00:16:23--> 00:16:28

is the is basically the answer to this through affirmation or negation.

00:16:29--> 00:16:48

assertion. assertion of the preposition, based on evidence, you say yes, is is called the based on such and such evidence. No, ice is not cold. And ice is cold is just like the simplest preposition here. You know, a cat is an animal, preposition. So

00:16:50--> 00:17:03

ice is cold. But that the sour that he's talking about here, which is the realization of individual objects, known as the sour is basically the sub word of ice itself.

00:17:05--> 00:18:00

You know, the individual objects, your conception of the individual object, your conception, your conception of coldness, in order for you to say yes, ice is cold or ice is not cold, do you need to know what ice Miss is about what coldness is about right? Before you judge the predication judge the relationship judge the nice but you have to figure you have to first have a conception of ice ness, of coldness of Katniss, these are the platonic forms you know, the basically the forms and the particulars a cat is a particular but there is a form for Katniss, you know, that would make you identify every cat as a cat, despite the different looks and there are different sizes and the

00:18:00--> 00:18:04

difference, everything that that which is in common, you know,

00:18:06--> 00:18:09

between them, so this is called conception,

00:18:10--> 00:18:20

we said the Anima demon and we have had this is divided into conception and this what that qu dark is also realization.

00:18:22--> 00:18:25

realization, nice button nespa is predication

00:18:27--> 00:18:34

predication, the relationship This means a relation, relationship between isness and coldness.

00:18:37--> 00:18:39

So, realization of that predication

00:18:41--> 00:18:45

because defend Muslim was in was called

00:18:47--> 00:18:51

that's deep, that's deep What does that means affirmation?

00:18:52--> 00:18:53

affirmation,

00:18:55--> 00:19:01

let us use instead of affirmation assertion, because this is us the more

00:19:04--> 00:19:37

in English assertion, so, it is called assertion. So, you have conception and you have assertion. conception is your realization of individual objects, coldness, Katniss, Eisner's that realization of what that means, what this is about, is is important and then the predication is basically to affirm or negate the relation or the tie between the subject and the predicate, the subject and the predicate.

00:19:40--> 00:19:41

Then he said the

00:19:42--> 00:19:49

law said, we'll cut them in our underwater cut them give precedents

00:19:56--> 00:19:58

or first or start with,

00:19:59--> 00:19:59

you know, start

00:20:00--> 00:20:00

With

00:20:01--> 00:20:06

start with the first start with the first one and that was

00:20:08--> 00:20:09

in conventional

00:20:10--> 00:20:14

conventional use or conventional usage

00:20:16--> 00:20:17

conventional usage

00:20:19--> 00:20:21

started with the first unconventional usage the unknown

00:20:23--> 00:20:35

because it is naturally first because it comes first macadam, it is given it is given precedence for Papa Papa naturally naturally So, it naturally comes first

00:20:36--> 00:20:51

right the sight word conception comes before assertion you have to have the sound word of what cat a cat is or what cabinets is about what is ness is about what humanity is about

00:20:54--> 00:20:54

and

00:20:56--> 00:21:02

and then you will have to basically make the assertion about

00:21:03--> 00:21:07

the certain attributes or certain descriptions prepositions

00:21:08--> 00:21:20

then So, we have now we have Paddy and had this had this is the sour and the

00:21:21--> 00:21:31

and then this the sour then does the each one of them comes in two different types there is the sour that is the rori anniversary

00:21:34--> 00:21:37

and when nobody know what he means what now very

00:21:39--> 00:21:45

some people translate this as theoretical theoretical but it's not theory it's it is basically

00:21:49--> 00:21:49

law

00:21:50--> 00:22:03

whatever requires another another is examination. Another is investigation. Another is sort of reflection whatever requires the unmowed well not very metallic moly.

00:22:04--> 00:22:06

So, the acquired

00:22:08--> 00:22:09

acquired

00:22:10--> 00:22:13

knowledge is whatever needed.

00:22:15--> 00:22:18

needed let Molly reflection

00:22:22--> 00:22:25

wax to the opposite of it.

00:22:28--> 00:23:14

What the real jelly is up the Rory Rory would be translated usually usually translated as necessary, right? But it's really not necessary. It's not necessary because the Word of God or itself is about what comes up from data from harm. And we say this is the UI or this is the UI means unnecessary. Because if I don't have it, I will be subject to harm the UI or if you use aren't part of the you know terminology. I started referring to this when the you know when when you ask Aristotle about Aristotle's logic was about syllogism. syllogistic reasoning is Aristotle's sort of own

00:23:16--> 00:23:35

way of acquiring knowledge. But the first premises before you make this that analogy, the first premises How do you reach the first premises he said that this is irresistible knowledge irresistible. So the Rory is irresistible.

00:23:37--> 00:23:39

irresistible.

00:23:42--> 00:23:46

Jelly is self evident, self evident.

00:23:48--> 00:23:49

So now

00:23:50--> 00:23:51

you have

00:23:54--> 00:23:58

and then we'll talk about the differences between this and

00:24:07--> 00:24:10

so you have the khadim preexistent.

00:24:16--> 00:24:28

And you have the hardest the temporal hours is the temporal so let's talk about ours. Temporal is either pass our word which is conception

00:24:30--> 00:24:33

and does the coach's assertion

00:24:37--> 00:24:38

each one of them

00:24:40--> 00:24:41

will be

00:24:42--> 00:24:48

not very which is acquired through reflection

00:24:50--> 00:24:52

through reflection

00:24:56--> 00:24:59

or borrow re webs as carries

00:25:00--> 00:25:00

estable

00:25:02--> 00:25:05

irresistible, you can easily you know.

00:25:06--> 00:25:11

So, here are acquired, irresistible

00:25:13--> 00:25:18

example on acquired through reflection when it comes to conception

00:25:25--> 00:25:38

you have an example, on acquired through reflection when it comes to conception and irresistible when it comes to conception, irresistible when it comes to the conception is basically

00:25:39--> 00:25:44

the presence of a distance between me and you there.

00:25:47--> 00:25:49

You know, well let's start with the assertion first

00:25:51--> 00:26:04

acquire. Sir is there the way that you know the assertions what is acquired and what's irresistible irresistible when it comes to assertion would be like, what the difference between one and two one

00:26:05--> 00:26:07

is half of two

00:26:08--> 00:26:24

right? This is not a conception This is an assertion, there is a predication here, one is half have to acquire through reflection when you say that 25 is 100 divided by 20 might apply and by five

00:26:28--> 00:26:33

right 25 100 divided, they take you time to think about

00:26:36--> 00:26:39

Yes, Your Honor, some someone here man.

00:26:41--> 00:26:43

Okay, it took a little time.

00:26:44--> 00:26:54

That take your time to think about one is half have to know and you can't even resist it. And no matter what your education is,

00:26:56--> 00:26:57

you can't resist.

00:26:58--> 00:27:05

irresistible when it comes to conception is oneness, the idea of oneness itself.

00:27:08--> 00:27:09

oneness

00:27:12--> 00:27:14

versus multiplicity, you know,

00:27:16--> 00:27:26

that idea itself, you have to have that conception, in order for you to talk about one, you have to have a conception of what one is

00:27:27--> 00:27:34

singularity, you have to have a conception of singularity. Right. And this is irresistible conception,

00:27:36--> 00:27:49

irresistible conception. And then there are other conceptions that are acquired through reflection. You know, sometimes the pay would be

00:27:51--> 00:28:06

conceptions of the nature of Paradise unless you're told you can't really tell, you know, and then it's whatever it is that you're told, your conception is acquired through, basically,

00:28:08--> 00:28:12

knowledge that is transmitted, but it is not irresistible.

00:28:13--> 00:28:20

It is not around you, it is not irresistible. Now it becomes a certain knowledge when it comes to you through

00:28:21--> 00:28:33

certainty, certainty, and that is what we would address when we get to the means of acquiring knowledge means of acquiring knowledge that the CFO will get to now. So now

00:28:35--> 00:28:43

so Ivangorod, he said alacarte and jasm and matava. The Rory are not very, and we Why did

00:28:45--> 00:28:56

you know the person can refuse the definition? He said, because if we wanted to find knowledge, we wanted to find all sorts of knowledge. And

00:28:58--> 00:29:10

in this case, attack card itself would not be the right word to use when it comes to an item of khadim or the pre existing knowledge or the knowledge of Allah.

00:29:12--> 00:29:16

When it comes to the pre existing knowledge or the knowledge of Allah, to kind of

00:29:17--> 00:29:18

methodically merge

00:29:20--> 00:29:31

the rori or happy, the only ordinary, the definition that he chose at the end, the definition that he chose is the end is

00:29:39--> 00:29:41

is the definition of a woman shall carry

00:29:42--> 00:29:51

and the definition was a surfer lady and catch if we have not lubinski schaffen cameleon. It is the quality by which the basically

00:29:53--> 00:29:54

the conclusion

00:29:55--> 00:29:57

is disclosed

00:29:58--> 00:29:59

completely disclosed.

00:30:01--> 00:30:05

The conclusion is completely disclosed quality by which the conclusion is completely disclosed.

00:30:07--> 00:30:22

Many times when they define knowledge, they define knowledge by defining that which is known, but in order which creates like a circle like a closed circle and that is something that you want to avoid.

00:30:23--> 00:30:25

But at any rate,

00:30:26--> 00:30:44

we have all of these different types of knowledge we have the temporal the hardest, the pre existence, the khadim we have the conception that the savoir and assertion to see if we have acquired through reflection and novelty and irresistible, which is not already

00:30:45--> 00:31:07

but how do you acquire all of that knowledge and the sheikh said here about Raja to Buddha, Edmund de COVID was default and so he hated the derivative Kadima adonijah, Oda alamanda D, and uncertainty that does not mean to make this an epistemological discussion like we're doing it now, but

00:31:09--> 00:31:40

but since he addressed those issues, that other Oda item Andre, the first level is apparent exterior knowledge Jacobian which is established through eyesight was the father and Saha through concurrence outside Hata deliberating Kadima or validated experimentation. So, three ways here that he mentioned for the acquisition of knowledge and you know, people that

00:31:41--> 00:32:11

this is one of the biggest controversies in philosophy in general and epistemology in particular, you know, between the people who said that we are born with not with this with whatever knowledge we have built in and those are the rationalists or the Nativists in reference to innate knowledge, like Socrates play to the cart.

00:32:13--> 00:32:18

And then the people who say that we are born with a blank slate, tabula rasa,

00:32:20--> 00:32:23

like Ebony Siena have a center

00:32:24--> 00:32:28

and the empiricists, john Locke, and

00:32:29--> 00:32:35

all of the empiricists philosophers and we then acquire knowledge

00:32:37--> 00:32:54

for the empiricist it is acquired through experimentation, which is honestly the right way of acquiring knowledge of the material, the physical knowledge, certainly it would not be

00:32:55--> 00:32:59

of much use in metaphysics

00:33:00--> 00:33:02

or acquiring knowledge of the unseen

00:33:08--> 00:33:11

The other one was actually better that we have their

00:33:13--> 00:33:14

reason

00:33:16--> 00:33:17

not not the board that reason.

00:33:20--> 00:33:22

So Steve said here,

00:33:24--> 00:33:31

three different ways of acquiring knowledge. He said the Jacobian was developed in Zaha Hadid the derivative Kadima

00:33:32--> 00:33:34

ANSI site

00:33:38--> 00:33:44

the father in law he had his true concurrence concurrence

00:33:46--> 00:33:49

Don't worry about you

00:33:51--> 00:33:51

Where do you

00:33:53--> 00:33:57

want to get the eraser so tell him I'm done here I'm gonna stop now.

00:34:02--> 00:34:07

What's a hottie the gelatin Kadima validated experiments are validated experimentation,

00:34:08--> 00:34:10

validated experiment.

00:34:15--> 00:34:28

And if you think about any other few things also, you will get you will get a complete picture of how knowledge is acquired eyesight to eyesight, all other senses

00:34:31--> 00:34:48

through concurrency, which is the Father through concurrency, by the way through concurrency, someone may say we have you know billions of people saying that Jesus was the Son of God. That's he can't get any better concurrency than this.

00:34:50--> 00:34:55

Right. What is that? What is the initial premise of the concurrence?

00:34:59--> 00:34:59

a belief

00:35:01--> 00:35:07

transmitted belief. That is not and that is not an acceptable premise that is not a certain premise.

00:35:08--> 00:35:34

If the billions of people did actually see something and reported it, and it is impossible that they would all concur on lying, then that is valid, valid way to certainty. Like, so many people go to China and come back talking to us about what they saw in China. He can't resist believing them. You just can't.

00:35:35--> 00:36:03

You know, like, everybody comes and talks to you, you know, I went to China, there is a country called China, you can't resist the believing that there is a country called China, you've never been to it. Nowadays, you watch it on TV, but prior to TV, people still could not resist, you know, the that knowledge, that certain knowledge of the existence of China, they've never been to China, but so many people came to them, and told them, you know, about China that it became irresistible knowledge.

00:36:07--> 00:36:29

So true concurrence, then the premise has to be like eyesight has to be a certain premise, not just a belief, a transmitted belief, because all of those people, someone claimed that he saw Jesus come back, after, you know, after they claimed that he was crucified, or they saw the Scripture.

00:36:30--> 00:37:19

So all of this and then then, you know, you have 300 years later the conference of Nicea and then people gather then to and Constantine decided that we will go with the divinity of Jesus versus, you know, him being just like an apostle or a messenger of God or a prophet or so. And then when people accept this, and then they transmitted generation after generation, you can say that this is true concurrence. This is basically transmitted, and then after it was transmitted, many people believe that, but at the root of it, we know there were not like hundreds of people, seeing that Jesus is the Son of God to begin with, or seeing that he came back or seeing that he was actually the one to

00:37:19--> 00:37:21

be crucified, but at any rate,

00:37:25--> 00:37:29

through concurrency than is acted through concurrence

00:37:32--> 00:37:42

after true, concurrent, certain transmission, because drew concurrence, why is it that you believe that China exists, even though you've never been to China?

00:37:45--> 00:38:25

Because the corroboration of different reports made the knowledge reach the level of certainty, a level of certainty, right in your mind, corroboration of reports. But what if one person that is certainly truthful, told you China exists, exists, one person, but but that one person has established his truthfulness, and messenger of God with miracles and stablished their truthfulness and told you paradise exists?

00:38:26--> 00:38:43

That, you know, based on the miracles that the that they established, that knowledge is superior to China exists, ship superior to China, he says, based on the knowledge and based also on

00:38:45--> 00:38:58

had the ruler which is the is the concept of being an irresistible concept, that we must have come from some place for some purpose and

00:38:59--> 00:39:28

and there is more purpose to us than just being you know, the matter that we are made of, there is more to us than just the matter, that we are made of all of this and then you cry, my messenger comes and establishes proofs on their truthfulness, then that results in certain knowledge and then validated experiment validated experiment and validated the experiment

00:39:29--> 00:39:49

is basically experimentation, experimental method, the experimental method, but add to the experimental method, which is something that you basically need your intellect for. Two other methods that would establish knowledge which are induction and deduction, induction and deduction

00:39:50--> 00:39:52

as dunbarton spectra,

00:39:53--> 00:39:55

induction and deduction

00:40:02--> 00:40:03

The

00:40:07--> 00:41:03

induction and deduction. So, if you add to the eyesight that the shape here the senses, if you add through concurrent certain transmission or from a truthful reporter, and if you add to experiment the experiment and method induction and deduction, then you have all sources of knowledge combined here, combined here. What about the this dichotomy between innate and acquired? Is it innate or acquired? What does Islam say about this? Or what can we understand? And always you know, to say that this is what Islam says is also like, just like too big of a claim. But what is it that we understand from you know, the the text of revelation from the Quran and the Sunnah, it is not

00:41:03--> 00:41:05

actually in neatest or

00:41:07--> 00:41:10

it is not in neatest or blanks latest.

00:41:11--> 00:41:35

It is somewhere in the middle, or it it has aspects of both. Allah Subhana Allah says in Surah Cana and this is the verse of epistemology in Islam. Allah Harajuku neomatik Allah Masha Allah like him somehow absorbed or either like him to school. Allow Raja comb, man bitonio Matty calm

00:42:04--> 00:42:06

what does that mean Allah

00:42:08--> 00:42:09

brought you out.

00:42:14--> 00:42:15

Men from

00:42:17--> 00:42:18

Boko and wombs,

00:42:19--> 00:42:22

means bellies, but it means here moms

00:42:23--> 00:42:25

how to calm your mother's

00:42:30--> 00:42:31

law talamona Sharia

00:42:39--> 00:42:44

law meaning knowing nothing law and meaning now and nothing knowing

00:42:47--> 00:42:47

nothing.

00:42:49--> 00:42:53

Here we go, why do you need to go any further than the core and

00:42:55--> 00:43:03

supports the blank slate or as your tabula rasa concept? Nothing blank slate here

00:43:09--> 00:43:10

was one photron

00:43:12--> 00:43:19

here but we're talking about the means of acquiring knowledge, temporary knowledge which I will come to it with john.

00:43:21--> 00:43:25

Summer, while Apsara

00:43:27--> 00:43:28

well f ADA

00:43:32--> 00:43:39

and he made for you made for you, Sam is hearing.

00:43:40--> 00:43:41

Hearing

00:43:42--> 00:43:46

upside is high sight sight.

00:43:47--> 00:44:03

And that's in reference to the senses. Because the Qur'an does not like you know, the crank ups is the references you know that you extrapolate from in reference to the senses, while f ADA, ADA is what? intellects,

00:44:07--> 00:44:08

intellects

00:44:09--> 00:44:59

and here is the here is the crux of the matter. So all of this up until here and if you stopped in the poor and is certainly empirical, you know, he's talking about empirical theory here, that tabula rasa you came out knowing nothing, and then you have hearing at high side. So, you see, you observe you experiment, and you acquire knowledge through this and all of this is correct, but this this f either part, that is where the innate is could say could claim that there is some mention here of innate knowledge, innate knowledge, but this innate knowledge is not ready knowledge is not ready knowledge, this innate knowledge is what

00:45:00--> 00:45:08

is a potential a capacity of potency, just potency ability, you know,

00:45:10--> 00:45:22

but not merely a potential recovery, there are some basics, basic foundations, the forms that no one knew how

00:45:24--> 00:46:11

you know that that does the thing that bewildered philosophers. So when you see a cat and you say this is a cat, and you see another cat have a different size, a different shape, and you say this is these forums, for Plato, these were transcendent, they have nothing to do with the material world for our thoughts of these forms were mixed with the material world, but how do you get to that? How do you How are a How are you able to realize this capitalist This is this this coldness. And basically, these are the building blocks, basic foundations that are inculcated into us, we are able, but this proves that there is a source beyond the material world.

00:46:14--> 00:47:02

It's the they're not just the transcendent forms of Plato, but there is a source of beyond the material world, we came in with so much that is already built in, in either in the intellect and yes, we have the hearing and eyesight to further acquire knowledge, particularly the knowledge of the the knowledge of assert assertion, but when it comes to the knowledge of conception, there is so much that is already built in singularity and multiplicity, that concept itself, you think that this is, this isn't a no brainer, right? This is not not knowledge, you don't pay attention to it, you take it for granted, the difference between one and two, you are taking it for granted, this was

00:47:02--> 00:47:05

built into you That is why you're taking it for granted.

00:47:06--> 00:48:01

You did not need to acquire it, you did not need to go to school to learn that there is a difference between one and two. But someone someone inculcated this in you, someone you know built this into your program, that there is a difference of between one and two. And there is a difference between singularity and the multiplicity and all of these things. So then, epistemologically the Quran does tell us that we have the building blocks of knowledge, some innate conception conceptions and building blocks of knowledge, but then the core and points out 2.2 points out to us also the importance of acquiring knowledge by using the senses. So a lot of this I gave you the building

00:48:01--> 00:48:13

blocks, I gave you the capacity, the potency, the potential, but I also gave you those senses, so that you could go ahead and acquire more knowledge.

00:48:16--> 00:48:57

So then she says here, da da da, da da Jacobian was the father. He has a heartbeat deliberate and Kadima first level is a parent or exterior knowledge, which is established through eyesight or true concurrence or validated experimentation, and we added to eyesight, all the senses, and we added to true concurrence report of the truthful one that established their truth. And we added to the agenda how to deliver Kadima or valid experiment or the experiment and method, knowledge that can be acquired through induction or deduction, induction or deduction.

00:48:59--> 00:49:00

And then,

00:49:03--> 00:49:14

and then we will not talk about the difference between induction and deduction and all of that stuff because it's enough epistemology for today. Let's get back to the safe without any item on consent cafe.

00:49:15--> 00:49:55

The second level is hidden interior knowledge. He says young beautiful assata Hara minal apadana zakia Maria Gonzalez. it emanates in the purified secrets Assad Sarah is secret. They refer to the southern most innermost part of the soul, Southern most innermost part of the soul, if the soul is the essence of the human, if your essence is the soul is your essence. The essence of the soul is the center. That's why the saints are low, Sara, may Allah sanctify his self, his secret, basically the southern most innermost

00:49:56--> 00:49:59

part of the soul or element of the soul? Yeah.

00:50:00--> 00:50:31

bootiful Asada is this knowledge, this hidden knowledge? it emanates in the purified Secrets of the purified bodies, purified secrets, purified souls of the purified bodies. bodies are purified by being compliant with the Sharia, and bodies that emanated from Hillel eating canal. And, you know, and being compliant with the Sharia, conform in conformity, congruency harmony with the Sharia all the time.

00:50:32--> 00:50:36

Those bodies those souls in those bodies, then

00:50:39--> 00:51:00

emanates in the purified Secrets of the purified bodies by the purified water of spiritual disciplining or training which is madariaga calesa, the purified water of spiritual disciplining our training, do you remember the station of riada we have the station of spiritual training, spiritual disciplining spiritual refinement.

00:51:02--> 00:51:15

So if you are able to make your body compliant, and make and feed yourself also nurture your body only with that which is Halliwell and sanctify your soul by

00:51:16--> 00:51:19

consistent refinement discipline,

00:51:20--> 00:51:32

to actualize your fullest potential in virtue and piety and so on, then, you may be granted some of that in the admin cafe or the hidden knowledge

00:51:33--> 00:51:35

that descends on the hearts.

00:51:38--> 00:51:52

And then we will talk about the hidden knowledge and the fact that it is not in conflict with the apparent knowledge of Sharia. It only complements never substitutes, the apparent knowledge of Sharia.

00:51:53--> 00:52:00

And then he said, Well, what of it and fastest Murali hyena Kalia well as may as

00:52:02--> 00:52:11

well have an emphasis of their current manifests in the sincere souls learned in him and I are here with sincere souls with highest aspirations.

00:52:14--> 00:52:21

In the unoccupied times of attentive listening, in the unoccupied times of attentive listening, now,

00:52:22--> 00:52:39

the qualified people were mentioned and in the first point, those are the qualified people, the people who will purify their innermost souls, purify their bodies, by refinements and so on. And then he said, He's talking about the opportunity. Now these are the opportunities

00:52:41--> 00:52:47

manifests in the sincere souls, you have to be very sincere in your pursuit of that knowledge.

00:52:48--> 00:53:04

with highest aspirations, and you have to really be determined to reach it. In the unoccupied times, you should not allow anything to distract you from it. You should avoid distractions, all the ambient noise of the world the pursuits

00:53:06--> 00:53:17

of attentive occupied times of attentive listening, and you should pay attention. Listen carefully to anything that Listen, listen means what here.

00:53:18--> 00:53:19

Keep your heart open.

00:53:20--> 00:53:28

In general, to lessons that are Lost Planet Allah will send to you that you will come across

00:53:29--> 00:53:50

every moment of the day, every instance every occasion, you're learning your listening allies teaching you something when you trip and fall of last teaching or something. When you like, when you hear news, good news, bad news, there is always something to learn. But most of the time we're not attentive, as ma or not

00:53:52--> 00:53:58

smell not paying attention attention as now here is not just about the hearing.

00:53:59--> 00:54:04

Smell here is about the basically reception receptive.

00:54:07--> 00:54:12

And then he said, Well, you've got a boy up beside we'll see you in a

00:54:13--> 00:54:21

while alimony is the hero of our app, it is a knowledge that makes the unseen manifest when you are able to share it and makes the manifest disappear.

00:54:23--> 00:54:25

How is it that you arrive what is

00:54:26--> 00:54:32

the gem Nana and all of these things are unseen to you. This knowledge will make the manifest

00:54:33--> 00:54:40

Can you earn enough not to have the bone well, Jennifer Jennifer Amon as if I see the people

00:54:41--> 00:54:46

in general rejoicing as if I see it. So you know,

00:54:47--> 00:54:59

it has become so certain as if I see. So you've had a high it makes manifest to the unseen when you're valuable, sad and sad. is they obvious, you know

00:55:00--> 00:55:06

tangible and obvious, you evaluate the showerhead and obscures the veils

00:55:07--> 00:55:14

or make this appear that which is obvious that which is right in front of you. So you're seeing your

00:55:15--> 00:55:16

hero.

00:55:17--> 00:56:06

You're not seeing everybody here and you're not seeing every anyone at home, you're only beholding Allah subhanaw taala paying attention to him only while Shirou Ellen Gemma and points to the union, you see rosamma points to that union the union with a lot not in the neoplatonic sense as we mentioned last time, you remember last time we mentioned the problem of you know, using terminology and problem of using concepts that are foreign to us, we did not emanate from Allah so that we can reunite with him in that sense, union with allies union and purpose when your purpose here were completely conformed to His Will you desire not but what that which he desires Hakuna, however, it

00:56:06--> 00:56:36

will be none of you will have belief until his desire will be in complete conformity with that which I have brought forth. That's what the prophet SAW Selim said that conformity that congruency between the Divine Will and your will is that union that we are talking about, not union in the sense of reuniting with, you know, the one from which everything proceeded by outflow and growth emanated from by outflow and gasm neoplatonic philosophy? Absolutely not.

00:56:37--> 00:56:39

And if some sheath

00:56:40--> 00:57:24

was affected, then we'll if you read a statement by a shake that is in general, a good shape that was compliant with the GDPR compliant with the sun Nisha, if you read a statement that is problematic, what do you do? You try to interpret it in the best possible way. You fail? What do you do? You go back and say to yourself that she wasn't good, safe. All in all was good to see. Like with me, I did with Abu as evil Buster Elvis, Tommy Bahama, more luck, even if they may have found that executes where I was either pastrami for saints of high knees of high Glory be to me Glory be to me, because he thought that this was a spiritual intoxication. Because why impressive as it was

00:57:24--> 00:58:14

for me in general, who was a Sharia compliance and the Sharia compliance scholar. So he was overwhelmed. And that is not to say that he's vulnerable, the Sahaba does cover better. We don't we don't hear any of these statements coming from the Sahaba. The Sahaba were better with what are the best. So that is a shortcoming. But it can be forgiven, because of that, sort of overwhelmed by spiritual intoxication. So, he what you what you do first is trying to understand it in a way that is plausible, that is good, that is Sharia compliant, if you failed, then you say generally that safe was good Sunni Sharia compliant safe then Tata Han, then you apologize on their behalf. And you

00:58:14--> 00:58:19

ask Allah subhanaw taala to forgive them for the shortcoming because of they

00:58:20--> 00:58:25

their general goodness and and so on, and that is what we do all the time.

00:58:27--> 00:58:39

Try to understand the statement in a way that is good, that is acceptable. And if you can't, then you make the car for the safe, but you do not certainly

00:58:41--> 00:58:52

demonize the sheriff who was otherwise good throughout their lives just because of a statement that they may have other in a time of

00:58:55--> 00:58:58

spirituality intoxication or due to

00:59:01--> 00:59:04

lack of prudence it's one pointer or the other

00:59:05--> 00:59:18

imprudence okay and finally about but before we move to the last one, it is important and we will have inshallah the chapter on focus a little bit shorter today, so don't worry.

00:59:20--> 00:59:22

But before we move

00:59:24--> 00:59:25

this element coffee

00:59:26--> 00:59:33

which is hidden knowledge, there is no conflict between this intimate knowledge and the apparent knowledge of the Sharia.

00:59:34--> 00:59:50

It would be nice and I don't know if Dr. anzam already translated this if it is already online because he's he's working on translating the modalities and I think that he's done with most of them. So if you check them and zealot 11 online station of knowledge and put next to it,

00:59:51--> 00:59:52

just try to see if

00:59:54--> 00:59:59

if the if that Manzella was translated with will be created will be very nice to go over

01:00:01--> 01:00:37

This particular station in my data set again Bible claim, Rahim Allah because of no claim, Rahim Allah being that he was at a time when there was so much corruption in the Sufi paths. And so, and and, and this idea of this The, the, this idea of separation between God and happy, but this idea of separation between the the apparent and the hidden or the subtle, between the interior and exterior knowledge has become so,

01:00:38--> 01:00:51

sort of dominant, not within the the the scholars of showing off or unsure whether they they basically were Sufi like him himself or not, but in general,

01:00:53--> 01:01:24

within the masses, those ideas started to prevail within the masses and we then many Sofi the nominations so people like him were particularly in any criticism that he waged against socialism is not against Sufism, Sony Sufism, but it is against the deviant Sufism that he had witnessed during his time. So in the beginning of this chapter, because it isn't a chapter about knowledge in the beginning of this chapter, he quoted so many

01:01:25--> 01:01:31

of the masters of the Sufi paths, starting from our hops,

01:01:32--> 01:01:40

and alginate and socket socket, a sorry, socket a, and

01:01:42--> 01:02:31

Abu Sulayman dharani. From from that, sort of, from the third century, all the way until empanada Allah who died in the eighth century, beginning of the eighth century, and he was a contemporary of urban, okay, so he brought, you know, the masters of the South, and he quoted statements from the masters of the soul of that, about the importance of knowledge, how essential the knowledge of Syria is, and how fake those people are, who claim a separation between the knowledge of Sharia and the knowledge of haqiqa, who claim that they don't need the knowledge of Sharia because they have the knowledge of hockey power, which comes to them directly from Allah, to their hearts, you know, you

01:02:32--> 01:02:47

you say, you report from made from me yet, we reports from a higher level a mode, you're important from the person reporting from another person, and we report from the ever living who never dies.

01:02:48--> 01:02:54

You report from under rezac, or one of them said many, many,

01:02:55--> 01:02:57

many Jacques

01:03:00--> 01:03:38

de Castro miniconda luck or something like this, who needs the reserve, you don't have the reserve Sahaba was enough, you know, one of the collections of the center, one of the bigger collections of some of the reserve and we used to be like a huge figure of heavy steering family on the magma traveling to the gym and just to see the result and to learn from the result. So remember him at the moment is anathema, traveling to the emergency of the resort and report from the resort. And then some people would say, who would need Abdirizak when they can learn from from the Creator.

01:03:41--> 01:03:42

And,

01:03:43--> 01:04:02

but it would be nice if you know once this is translated, inshallah I'll send I'll send you all the statements because that is the distinction between Sunni Sufism and heretical Sufism, that is the distinction, respect of the Sharia respect of the certain respect of the exterior knowledge

01:04:03--> 01:04:24

is the distinction between Sunni Sufism and heretical sofas. Finally, even she said, What dadada 230 Solomon ladhani, the third level, is there any knowledge and we said that Donna, middle Adonai Alma, Allah Muhammad LaDonna Alma, we taught him from us, we taught him directly, not through Moosa, but directly.

01:04:26--> 01:04:41

And he said, is now to who will do its reference is its existence with Roku, I know its realization is through observation, its reference is through is its existence, like I can give you a chain of narration it

01:04:43--> 01:04:48

my proof on this knowledge is the very existence of it. So I can't give you a chain of narration.

01:04:51--> 01:04:59

These statements could be problematic, but you could understand them in a way that is not problematic, and that's what I said before. You could understand them in a way

01:05:00--> 01:05:09

That's completely wholesome and not problematic. And we'll go over this with Rocco, who I am. And it's really a realization through observation, through observation,

01:05:11--> 01:05:13

eyesight, and his eyesight.

01:05:14--> 01:05:30

When I had to help him, it's identifiers are innate, you have to have the knowledge to know how to reach, there is no map for it. That's what he's trying to say. Now to help me, I can describe it for you, I can tell you, I can draw a map for you

01:05:31--> 01:05:57

and tell you how to get there. When you get there, you will know how to get there. Otherwise, there is no way I can't really describe it. And I can give you a roadmap. Now to help you have to get there to be able to see it experienced, understand what it is about, its identifiers are in need. So there are no signposts

01:05:58--> 01:06:12

to point to it. You have to get to it. And then you will be able to tell what it is and what attributes it has. Because I can't really tell you of its attributes.

01:06:13--> 01:06:37

Later avena will be no hijab, no veil comes between it and the unseen, there is no vapor vapor that comes in between it and the unseen. We have to understand that this knowledge is the knowledge of Adham of Zell COVID cache of knowledge that comes to you from Allah in ham is one inspiration, though, is intuition. Cash Flows this closer.

01:06:40--> 01:06:50

Do you need this knowledge for proper understanding of the deen and proper application? How many deviant people with big beards Have you come by so far? Not big beards with beards? And

01:06:55--> 01:06:57

of course for you, everybody.

01:06:58--> 01:06:59

No,

01:07:02--> 01:07:02

no, it's

01:07:05--> 01:07:05

no sorry.

01:07:07--> 01:07:08

72 joking.

01:07:09--> 01:07:13

No, but but many, many people that are.

01:07:15--> 01:07:28

In fact, I, you know, you know how he has a big edge. You know, the president of Bosnia, he's the philosopher president of Bosnia, he said there is nothing greater are better than a man. And sometimes and and

01:07:29--> 01:07:32

so there's nothing greater or better than face.

01:07:33--> 01:07:38

But there is nothing, nothing dumber and more boring than some of the faithful

01:07:40--> 01:07:49

some of the faithful there is nothing greater or better than him face. But there is nothing dumber and more boring than some of the faithful

01:07:51--> 01:07:55

which sometimes, you can sometimes you can sometimes the night.

01:07:56--> 01:07:58

But the idea here is

01:08:01--> 01:08:16

remember when we talked about the means of acquisition of knowledge and the different types of knowledge, knowledge ability refines character, it is important to instead of our children the love of reading, and we need to learn about the world around us. So

01:08:18--> 01:08:41

that is why Armando is a genius. He was aware of the world, he knew that about the world, he was able to benefit this lab, we are leeches dependent on Islam, we are not bringing in any sort of benefit value to the deen your understanding of the world of intellectual trends of sciences. All of this will help

01:08:43--> 01:09:20

will help us learn, you know, collectively we can help us there. So knowledge in general, acquiring knowledge or different types of knowledge, all kinds of knowledge would always be helpful will always be empowering. We'll always be refining. So that's where audience the big eventual was coming from, to some extent. But what I'm trying to say here is on a different note here, what I'm trying to say is you've seen a lot of deviant people that are that that are not basically let me Otome antebellum. So they are not basically their wickedness is not about or is not out of ignorance.

01:09:21--> 01:09:53

When it comes to information, they have the information when it comes to data, they possess the data and information, but they aware their understanding gets corrupted or the application is corrupted. Why? Because the hearts are corrupted. Do you understand the now the importance of that subtle knowledge that comes to the heart, that inspiration, that that intuition that

01:09:55--> 01:09:57

catch this closure?

01:09:58--> 01:09:59

Because without it

01:10:00--> 01:10:14

Your understanding could be corrupted even though you have the information, you can compile the information, could go use a computer program and compile all the information that you need. But your ability to put things together

01:10:15--> 01:10:20

is impaired. Because your heart you know, is vague

01:10:22--> 01:10:23

and

01:10:24--> 01:10:51

obvious, right? And then you could have a proper understanding, fail to apply. You could have a proper understanding and fail to apply just that this is vitamin D, you know, you could have the proper understanding, but your your wickedness overwhelms you. Your greed overwhelms you. You know, so you don't honor your contracts, you don't honor your covenants.

01:10:52--> 01:11:32

And you get overwhelmed by your wickedness or your greed. And also even when a spouse and relationships in in all forms of application, in all spheres of application, you will have shortcomings because you're not getting any help any support from Allah subhanaw taala despite having all the information, so now we understand that in ham, thou cash compliment, they don't substitute, they are necessary for proper understanding and application. They complement the knowledge of Sharia, but they are not substitutes for sure

01:11:34--> 01:11:36

of the knowledge of Sharia critical the

01:11:38--> 01:11:38

Shadowlands