Hatem al-Haj – Manazil as-Sa’ireen #59 – Chapter on Wisdom

Hatem al-Haj
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To proceed, so, a lot today we have a chapter on hikmah or wisdom and

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the chapter on the eligible recipients of Zakat

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In fact, so, first the chapter on hikmah or wisdom and we will go over emammal Otto is

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basically this course on hikmah

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wisdom and then after we finish we will come back and talk about how to acquire hekman because, how to how to become wise how to acquire agma or wisdom because that is not particularly an easy task.

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And it needs a little bit of

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basically effort and a lot of in kisara brokenness before Allah subhanaw taala to grant it to you. So, we will come back and talk about the sources of hekman How to acquire Heckman Sala but first let's go over to the moment are we how do we Rahim Allah said here, under the chapter of hikmah or birdwood Heckman, he started by a verse like he usually does Palazzo general at tegmentum Asia on the meta property at

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a low mighty said he gives wisdom to whomever he pleases and whoever has been given wisdom

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by Allah has certainly been given much good has certainly been given much good.

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And then a chef Rahim Allah started by saying and hikmah to what was say if mo when he Allah philosophy, the Raja wisdom is the place everything where it belongs and it is of three levels, wisdom is to place everything where it belongs, you need hikmah and judgment and you need Heckman action right in each segment and judgment and you need Hackman action. And Heck, man's judgment is basically to be insightful, to be able to tell things apart to to make the right judgment,

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given the the information you have available and so on.

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But hegman action is to place everything where it belongs, which means to do the right thing at the right time for the right purpose in the right measure and the right for.

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So, doing the right thing is is not necessarily sufficient. But unless you have done the right thing at the right time for the right purpose and the right measure and right form

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this, this you cannot describe this as hegman inaction.

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Then the chef said the data to them then after six others, three levels like usual he said the data to 20 akula inhaca. Who do who had the who taught jello and walk t what

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is three the three different things that you need to satisfy to have fulfilled at that particular level of hikmah? To give everything it's do right, because things have different priorities, different values, and

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morals have different values, actions, deeds, all of these things have different values. So being able to understand that the hop or the do right of every action of every value

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is part of Hekmat everything is due right. What are they how hard the who without exceeding its limit without exceeding its limit lateral out there who had the who have the is the limit so you don't basically exceed its limit and exceeding its limit means what no laxity or no excessiveness, because, you know, the two ends of the the two extremes are both condensable you want to hit the golden mean the middle is what you're looking for

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that moment and thus we have made you an omega is moderate and middle nation, a nation of moderation.

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And then he said when I taught Jenna who had walked he was one who

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so without exceeding its limit or advancing it before its time or delaying it after. So you have to know the right measure and right form and also you have to respect to the proper time for the action because doing the right thing at the wrong time.

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could just be as harmful as doing the wrong thing. Doing the right thing at the wrong time could just be as harmful as doing the wrong thing.

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And then the sheikh said what data to send here the second level, and Dutch had another Allah and Tosh had another Allah He wanted

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to behold the the judiciousness of a lost cause, and his promises and threats. While he probably meant what he meant both ends of the world, the promise could be a promise of good thing or a promise of a punishment. So if it is a parameter of performance of a good thing, it's usually called Word and if it is a promise of punishment, it's usually called wide. So he meant here probably the promises and threats to behold the judiciousness of a lost cause and his promises and threats.

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What are the fabula who helped me here and to recognize His justice in his judgment, to recognize His justice in his judgment

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around him and how to be rockin Allah said, as

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a man whom Allah made

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me realize, so he said that all the people of sound intellect in all nations,

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of all backgrounds, from all religions, from or ethnicities, people of sound intellect have agreed that whoever does not accept that destiny will not

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have any joy in life, or will not have any pleasure in life

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will not have a pleasant life. Because no matter how much you like, no matter how carefully are, things will come up, things will arise. And then if you are basically not accepting of the laws, destinies, you're not going to be only worried about yourself, when you get have kids, you'll won't be worried about your kids. And then you will be also worried that, you know, if your luggages you like

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Healthy Kids, you will be worried that they may have unhealthy kids. And that will be paid for you also as a grand parent and stuff, or they may not have good carriers. You know, whatever.

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Whatever your definition of good is.

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You may So, if you don't, if you if you don't accept the destinies all you can do is to do your best. to work hard, do your best but if you're not accepting of the destinies of Allah subhanaw taala you will have always grief about the past and the present and an anxiety about the future. And that is where most people

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that's where most people belong nowadays. Your your life people are doing the SSRIs the those medications, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, either for grief, depression, or worry and anxiety. So between depression and anxiety, you've got like a good chunk of people. I agree. And depression is grief about the past. And anxiety is grief about the future. And the only treatment The only remedy for this is to accept color without fatalism without

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pacifism, fatalism.

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You're doing your best but you but you know at the end of the day, that doing your best

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is just for you to not regret, you know, like an undesirable outcome, but it does not mean that an undesirable outcome will not take place.

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Then he or she has said what on hover better houfy many Santosh had another law, you are the one who helped me and recognize justice in his judgments. Without has a better houfy manual E and O observed his graciousness, and his was withholding observe his graciousness in his withholding.

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And that is extremely important. Also, the Arts and Technology are hierarchical Mohsen Boucher. sobre, la la, la la Mo, and you may like to think that it is anyway there's like a thing that is good for you and me like a thing that it is bad for you and Allah knows and you know enough about that's a concept that we have to be very

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sort of cognizant of.

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And if you know our laws wisdom, behind his withholding, you will be just as grateful for withholding just as you are for his giving, given that you are malla if you are willing

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Lots of Kanata Allah and Allah will plot for you not against you, then Allah will plan for you not against you then allow degree things in your best interest, eventually they will be in your best interest. Whether you are able to see this now or not,

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you basically you failed

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to keep your job or to get into the major that you wanted or this or that you don't know. All you can say is, as long as I am Fijian below where I am without loss of Hello tala, then I trust his plans for me.

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And I trust this choices for me, Paul has a better human eye, he observed his graciousness, in his withholding, and the wiser you are and that's extremely important. That's why he put this in the second level of wisdom, the wiser you are, the more aware of this, the more grateful for his withholding, just as you are for his giving. That does not mean that your natural instincts, the natural inclinations natural tendencies of a human being, you'll be able to get rid of them completely. Like, you know, you will sorry, if you if you lost, you know, money, for instance, in a business transaction,

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to basically have some regrets, or to be some

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blame to yourself, I mean, if you, if you fell short, certainly you should blame yourself to learn for the future.

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But to have a little bit of sadness over your loss is natural, that does not mean but eventually you tap into these resources that you have

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spiritual resources that you have, and you'll be able to recover and overcome, you know, that the depression that low

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in your psyche very quickly.

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But a little bit of sort of human response to loss is not unexpected, kind of does not mean that you don't have wisdom is just going to be limited, you will not transgress you will not exceed your limits, and you will be able to recover quickly after it happened to your spiritual resources.

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Then the sheikh said what donnager to 30s and who is the logical basura third level of magma is your exploration becomes guided by insight your exploration becomes guided by insight and travelogue of logical basura your exploration becomes guided by insight, you need to explore things judge thing you need to be discerning, you need to examine the evidence however, your sound the intellect will not be sufficient for proper examination and proper conclusion.

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Sound intellect can be affected impacted by so many things. Sound intellect can be affected by your biases, by your emotions,

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by your lack of deliberation, your haste. So some of the intellect is not his intellect is not sufficient unless you have an enlightened unbiased insight, enlightened, unbiased insight to compliment to supplement your sound, the intellect the raw intelligence is not sufficient, in other words, your raw intelligence is not sufficient to guide you to that which is right otherwise human beings would have not, you know, because people, like if you bring people from different backgrounds and different ethnicities, you have very smart people on the right. You have very smart people on the left, you have very many smart people who are Muslim, you have many smart people who are not

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Muslim, you have many smart people who are Pro, whatever, pro life pro choice,

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pro immigration, anti immigration, and they have the exact same exact IQ.

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So if there is, if there is guidance that we had, then imperfectly we can prove that raw intelligence is not sufficient, and perfectly we can prove this drawer intelligence is insufficient for guidance, because people who have the same level of raw intelligence, at the end of the day, they have very different views about all sorts of things.

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it is, you know, unless you have that enlightened and unbiased in sight, your sound intellect will not be sufficient.

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Then the sheikh said what he said the copy of his theological

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Sierra that your your exploration becomes guided you reach a point where your exploration becomes guided by insight and your guidance is to the truth. Your guidance is the truth that you're always guiding people to the truth or you're being guided whenever you are being guided. as

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Abraham Allah seven Medallia just said, again, this could mean one of two things. You're either guiding people to the truth all the time, or whenever you get guided by people you reach the truth, like you will be able to grasp the truth. And then the final one where he is erotica, and you're pointing to the ultimate goal you're pointing would always be to the ultimate goal. So you will not be pointing people to intermediaries, you're pointing the people to the ultimate goal. You're not pointing the people towards not just intermediaries or even you know, you're not pointing the people towards injury intermediaries and you're not pointing the people away from the path to the ultimate

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goal. The ultimate goal is Allah

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you're not pointing the people to the signposts you're pointing the people to the ultimate goal, you're able to point with one strike to the ultimate goal, not the signposts, not you know, branching off the or like paths that branch off the straight path, not even to intermediaries. But but to the ultimate goal. And he says we each erotica and you you're pointing and I think that this is to some extent, and it it may or may not be it may or may not be we always said that we interpret the column of the Messiah, we interpret the most if statements and you know, there are the various discourses and the best possible way, but we just pointed this out in case there is an influence,

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then we we are aware of the influences neoplatonic meta platonic and neoplatonic influence in on Islamic mysticism was enormous, for sure. And in neoplatonic terms, you know, you can't refer to God, you can only point to God, if you could, you cannot be expressed the attributes of God, because whatever expressions you have, belong to your own experience, human experience, and therefore, you should not be attributing anything to God. And God a neoplatonic turret terms can only be described via negativa meaning with negative attributes, you can only say what God is not. You cannot say what God is, you can only say what God is not. You cannot say what God is. So the this neoplatonic

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influence then have some impact on

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our own theological discourses, as well as on some impact on Islamic mysticism. The God that the Prophet was

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basically taught the Sahaba about God that the Sahaba talked about is a God who has attributes that are in the Quran and the Sunnah. Certainly, we have to always stress his transcendence. Tansy has transcendence has to always be stressed. So avoid any conceptualization of any images in your mind, and stress the transcendence but do not negate the attributes that he described himself with, or his messenger sallallahu Sallam described them with our God is a personal, naturally not a distant remote God, not a God that can only be described via negativa but is a God who is you know, medical produce Solomon woman in Waimanalo seasons are born with a cup

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is a God that is described through attributes that are well known in the Quran and the Sunnah. Having said that, were you know, we're pretty much done with the chief says here about hekla. And then we will talk a little bit about the sources of Heckman, and how do we how do we acquire hekla? Because hekla is a complex concept. It's a complex quality that is basically made up of elements made up of elements and environmental payment Himalayan modality, said he, he said that hikmah that there are three pillars of Heckman three pillars of hikma.

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Okay. So knowledge forbearance and calibration are the the three elements out of which Hector, you know, hikmah develops are the three pillars of hikmah the three ingredients of hegman you have to the more knowledge you have certainly the more

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More hegman you have, the more wisdom you will have. But it is not just about knowledge it's also about Helen and think of him this way had misogynist emotionality. And we most of us come from, you know, and I don't really want to be an ethicist here, but to some extent you know cultures do have an impact we mostly come from emotional cultures.

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So, that is one thing you want to get rid of. You want to be have control over your emotions.

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Because emotions, such as extreme anger, extreme, even extreme joy, extreme happiness. These are things that the prophets are gonna advise this against.

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Even he advised, I advise this against loving someone.

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Extremely, you know, up to heaven and you know when you love love with moderation asagna Kunal Vila, calm and maybe he will be here for one day, Baba Managua, honan Asana, cuando, Habiba calm and, and when you hate hate with moderation, maybe he'll become your friend one day

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he or she will become your friend one day. So, basically, mild doubts your emotions is extremely important for you to have this hegman to have mild emotions. To have control over your emotions is extremely important. And bipolar people who are like extremely happy and elated and extremely sad and mad and grieved and so on, that is not Heckman. Heckman is certainly Heckman, you know, take my snap like have a flatline also.

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That is people who are completely insensitive.

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But Heckman is to have like waves like this. Not spikes

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and not a flatline just waves like you are like on the happier side sometimes like or sadder side sometimes

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in waves, you know, waves that don't have sharp corners that are not spiky waves. They are basically smooth waves like this.

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And human beings were not you know, it is not expected of a human being to have a flatline the Prophet did not have a flatline for La la la, la la, la la cabeza.

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Like a backhoe, knifes Polonica like a backup MasterCard and 30 millimeter dcsf.

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So, in several laws, Karnataka told them you are about to destroy yourself of grief because of their lack of faith or because

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half after them, you know, because of their rejection. So yes, things will end and he used to like, cheer up when he heard good news and prostrate and smile and so on. So certainly, it's not like you're going to be a flatline, you're going to have smooth curves like this, but no spikes. If you have spikes, you don't have you're not going to be able to have wisdom, unless you basically

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smooth out your spikes. That is hidden.

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You will not be able to have wisdom.

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If you want to say that, you know and honestly speaking guy without a lot unless you put your makeup on the part of Heckman part of *. But I would think that there is an extremely important part also which would protect you from biases, protect you from your own biases, justice, fairness, and as that abrasion and as the liberation because no matter how much of this and this you have, if you don't have deliberation, if you don't take your time. If you don't take your time. If you are hasty, have any haste, then

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you will not have Heckman. An important part of hikma is, is to take your time to deliberate and sometimes, you know, whatever you see that people disagree over an issue. Do not be too confident, particularly if you see good wise people disagreeing over an issue. Just don't be too confident in your own

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views are your own choices. Because because that means that there is something wrong with you. It's about arrogance. It's about like haste.

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So thank you

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Time and other braids and and

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ask Allah subhanaw taala to guide your heart to that which is right. So, these are the I would say the four elements of hikmah these are the four ingredients you work on them individually hekman is a complicated multifaceted concept your is not going to work on Hickman itself. Heckman is multifaceted and it is complicated. So but if you work on these four ingredients while having complete dependence on Allah for the ultimate outcome, then hopefully one day you will have that hikmah or the wisdom element knowledge hidden forbearance

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and that abrasion

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Having said that, where did you get it from?

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Oh, it seems that if you don't leave it for too long. Okay.

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Okay, but what the source the source of heck man? How do you because everything is learned everything is acquired.

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Even Henan, which some people think may not be acquired the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said a number of Lumina, Hanover, Harlem, Amanita hyalto, many tapisserie Yoga enema and more

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obvious and the professor said don't put them next to each other basically to point out that as much as you guys think it is vital, that you know being knowledgeable is through acquisition of knowledge, acquiring knowledge learning basically hermoso forbearance also which you think is not acquirable not attainable. through practice. It is attainable through practice, just like knowledge that just like you learn, you also practice hedeman you become Halim and you become forbury so that's a good beshara from the Prophet sallallahu sallam.

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So enter my name with Allah when I met him with the Hello mama Tara areata, whoever seeks good will be given with granted what he sought, a woman who

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ever tries to avoid evil will be protected or spirit of evil.

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So the source now now that we're trying to learn the source, it must you know, the greatest of all sources must be Allah

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modificado to Sierra,

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he gives He grants wisdom to whomever he pleases, and whoever has been granted wisdom, he has been granted much good. So who Allah is the one who ultimately gives you a Heckman and it talks about you know, efficient and final and formal cause and Oh, so, if you talk about someone who has all the causes efficient final and formal causes, it is Allah and Allah alone is the one the ultimate

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cause and the ultimate source of Heckman. So, this is what is what this allow one of you, he wants your answer. He wants your humbleness, he wants your humility, he wants your brokenness and then he can start to grant you things you know, favors that will be truly in your best interest. And, you know, he you know,

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your welfare in this life and the hereafter.

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So that is where we're starting. We're starting with this brokenness and this humidity and as a you know, and seeking that hikmah from Allah subhanaw taala. But you you learn it from the Quran, the word of Allah subhanaw taala so the more you learn about the Quran, and the more you read the Quran, and the more you read interpretations of the Quran, the more Hagman you have, so certainly Allah

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is the first source What about the second source, the second source really has to be the Prophet sallallahu Sallam because he is the one that a lot interested with the message, his message, his final message to humanity, it's the prophets and messengers in general.

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You know, particularly the prophets, Allah sallallahu his message has been protected and preserved by Allah subhanaw taala. So, a Sunnah is part of an hikmah Allah subhanaw taala said with coconut milk, if you will, he cannot mean Atilla he will hikma and remember the the the the verses of Allah

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Heck metal are being recited in your in your homes when he was talking to the wife, the wives of the promises of them the mothers of the believers.

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it was a key element about tech metal a man to the moon club ECMO is a key in many verses. Allah subhanaw taala describe the prophet SAW Selim as reciting the verses of a lot of them and teaching them

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Al Khattab the book and Hickman and Heckman in this particular context, as Shafi pointed out, is the sudden, but it does not mean that hegman is limited to the sun, you know, there is a magma and the coriander is Hagmann the sun, but within this particular context, when the Hikmah comes after the keytab, then the magma is this and sadhana is the explanation of the Kitab.

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And certainly, the second most important source of hikma is the sun, and then after a line after the profits or losses alone, you know the believers and believers are not all equal in belief, they are not all equal in hikmah. And they vary

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in in their belief in the very end their headmaster Sahaba

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you know the greatest of all generations and as the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said and then the following generation and the following generation.

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But what what is important here is that we need we rely on the interpretation to a large extent, we rely on the interpretation of the scholars and the knowledgeable among us their interpretation of the Quran and the Sunnah, we do need this, it does not mean that they are the source of Heckman, they're just guides to Heckman and the source is a loss of Renata and the fact that we rely on their interpretation

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does not mean that they are the ultimate source. The ultimate source is Allah subhanaw taala. Believers when it comes to the believers, you rely on their interpretation,

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certainly any understanding of the prevalence and that neglects the way Abu Bakr and Omar understood the Quran and Sunnah northmen and Adi are the Aloma Jemaine is is a sort of like a defective understanding of this and he like he can't really bypass those, you can bypass you know, a Buddha and a bizarre you can bypass, you know, afterwards author and Buddha had sight of the Messiah even zody can bypass those righteous generations in their understanding of the Quran and the Sunnah. So, any new understanding was in conflict with others in conflict was their agreement in conflict with their consensus as a misguided understanding.

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But the the, there is also an important concept here, which is the instantiation

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and its instantiation.

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of concepts the innocence ation of like, you know, making instances out of concepts, you know, the biographies of the righteous generations and the biographies of particularly the Sahaba gonella him basically gives you

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gives you that instantiation of concepts. Now, the concepts are being demonstrated live for you the concept of bravery, the concept of this and so in order for you to develop Heckman, the more you read about the seer of the promises, and the more you read about the biographies of the Sahaba and the autumn and so on. This will help you see Heckman being demonstrated life for you. And instead of just reading the concept, but rather seeing the concept of being acted out in their lives.

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Then, you know,

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and the believers also are a source of hegemonic because all the believers are wise necessarily but the you know, among the believers are wise people and the wise people among the believers are the safest source of hegman. It does not mean that non believers will not have Heckman absolutely not the prophets of Salaam said the tech modality, or it has been reported that he said that it's not authentically traceable to him, but the scholars agreed on its meaning and Heg metadata Norman Heckman is the last property of the believer that he that he's always looking for, you know lost property of the believer that he's always looking for egg metal volatile moment.

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Yes, not authentically traceable to the promises of them yet as I said it is basically accepted the meaning

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COVID is accepted by the scholars throughout the different generations. So

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you know, so humanity in general, humanity,

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a source of Heckman

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people who do have a good understanding of the parameter, good understanding of the sun

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will be able to benefit from all the heck Marvel people because they are grounded, they have a base, they are grounded. And now they are discerning, and they can benefit from the Hikmah

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of anyone, regardless of their faith, regardless of their background, whatever background they have.

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And we will come back and talk about our stands from the love of Heckman, or the level of wisdom is called philosophy. Fear, you know, fellow is love. And Sophia, I guess, is hegman. So we'll talk about the stand R stands from what is translated as the love of wisdom, philosophy.

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But it belongs to this category, you know, the Hikmah that is the shared

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legacy of humanity, and part of it is certainly philosophy. And then

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basically all living creatures, all living creatures, you can learn a lot of hikmah from ants, and you could learn a lot of Heckman from wolves. And you can learn a lot of hikma from,

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from all living creatures, if you examine. And people are constantly like, basically contemplated, and they examine

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the habits of those living creatures, they could learn a lot of hegner from them, from animals from living creatures. And finally, you learn a lot of hikma from the universe and the order that is in the universe, you see that this is an order the universe. And so with some reflection, people could chemists and physicists and so on, you could learn a lot of hikma, just from their study of the universe, and the study of the perfect order in in this universe. But this is basically the hierarchy.

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And when you have conflict between one layer and the other layer, don't basically so let's say you have a conflict between humanity and the believers and collectivity of the believers. So certain things are being done a certain way in Muslim countries, and they're being done differently outside of the Muslim countries, for instance, you know, wherever you come from.

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So when you have a conflict, don't be,

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don't be too quick to the judge in favor of the higher level.

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Until you see until you go up a little bit higher, maybe there will be continuity between the heck My life is coming from here, and the heck My life has been preached

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at this level, or this level. So wait, don't be too hasty to judge in favor of the higher level until you have checked, you know, the the source, the Hekmat that is higher on this hierarchy. Now, the issue of philosophy belongs to basically the shared legacy

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of humanity.

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So what's our stance from philosophy?

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What is it?

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Good, bad. We learn that should we not?

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unnecessary? Yes.

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Take the good and leave the evil Who does that?

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who's able to take the good and leave the evil?

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Sometimes it is pretty tricky, by the way, because keep in mind that even arguments are system dependent. You know, you know that arguments are system dependent arguments work within the framework. And to take an argument from a framework and try to apply it within a different framework. It will not it will be sort of like this harmonious with a new framework. So arguments not not just conclusions, but the very arguments are system dependent, and they work within their own frameworks.

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So it's not easy.

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too much noise and talk.

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Any for any contributions here?

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I think it's limited to our intellect only

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because it's limited our intellect. Yes, yes.

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Philosophy is easy to manipulate the concepts of right and wrong. So let's take a look at our you know, so the vast majority of Muslim scholars said that philosophy is bad and you should not learn philosophy. Right?

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The vast majority of Muslim scholars said philosophy is bad, and you should not learn philosophy. And philosophers are the ones that are known as Muslim philosophers in our heritage have also slipped and have also been affected by foreign concepts, concepts that are foreign to Islam. So one of our greatest philosophers in our history is Ebony Sina

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Rahim Allah and you know if you're surprised, I'm saying Ramallah

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I have my reasons.

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But even Sinochem Allah was one of our greatest philosophers. Yeah, they have only seen a deny the resurrection of bodies.

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And that is being influenced by her philosophy and so on, he deny that bodies will be resurrected. And we're not necessarily talking about bodies in the sense of your, your very ingredients here because they may go through many people, the same ingredients, you know, they turn into dust plants, animals eat the plants, humans eat the animals and so on. But, but at the end of the day, that

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denial of corporeal resurrection or the resurrection of bodies is certainly a major issue a major problem.

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Aveiro is despite the fact that neuros the ragamala. And certainly no problem here with the university because his interest,

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who is one of the greatest puppies and parties and verifying scholar, no one can deny his status, his scholarship, but also because of his influenced by philosophy, he did have some positions that that were

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counter to the agreement of Muslim scholars.

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And they were in sharp conflict with some of the Islamic concepts to the point where and people debate over this all the time that he believed in,

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had to fall to twofold choose

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the philosophical and the revealed and the work in parallel lines. So and that is, that is a problem. Because if you if you don't think that the philosophical is completely subservient, and has to basically fit into and conform to the revealed truth than that is a problem. But he used to say that the you know, the common folk they have limited primitive intellect. So the revealed truth was meant to basically suit their primitive enter

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the masses,

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and therefore, he says that it was wise of the revealed truth, to be to speak in figurative language that would

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basically suit the common folk who are primitive in their understanding and their intellect. And that whole thing, you know, certainly irritated and aggravated. A lot of scholars, particularly known among them would be Azadi and Tamia, who both rejected philosophy

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and between them as acknowledged by the way, so bizarrely, if neurosurgery bottle delivers on his book to African philosopher, which is the incoherence of the philosophers and he called his rebirth of the incoherence of the incoherence to have to have

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and then every time he came and gave the basically the final blow to philosophy.

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So it became uncertainly. You know, during those times, people were either SRT or SRT and Hanbury and so on

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So in philokalia, definitely me, I would agree,

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certainly has that he died in the beginning of the sixth century, even if they may have died in the beginning of the eighth century. So they were two centuries apart, or about two centuries apart.

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But, you know, throughout, you know, this generational

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it you know, after going into May, there were very little, the so called so called medieval Islamic philosophy coming out from the, from the site,

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of nourish, to try to revive aristotelean, not in rs 13, with a little bit of platonic influence,

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or instability and philosophy.

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this, our centennial philosophy that the British tried to revive, spread throughout Europe, and the so called Latin, a very wisdom,

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Latin a very wisdom,

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but it died out in Muslim countries.

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So, what are the right when they are completely rejected philosophy, keep in mind that the accepted logic and logic is a branch of philosophy, whether you like it or not, logic is a branch of philosophy and the logic level because it accepted and that he consider that to be an essential ingredient.

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In any scholars, like sort of scholarly portfolio, it's an essential ingredient in here now scholar unless you have mastered logic,

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that logic itself is our aesthetic and logic, it is predominantly to a great extent, all Aristotelian logic, that is the that is what is what used to be called logic during because that is time and that is whether or not he also consider it to be a logic. And that's what he preached in his Aristotelian logic. And even though the relationship between logic and philosophy is sort of a mutual bilateral relationship,

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they feed back into each other, you know, logic regulates your thinking, it's about systems of reasoning. It regulates your thinking, philosophy isn't thinking itself, systematic inquiry into the truth.

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But then, it is philosophy that determines what is logical and what is not logical. And then logic goes back to guide, your, your, your your thinking, so it's a bilateral relationship, but

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some of the scholars accepted logic, and some of the scholars even rejected logic, not logic, you know, the science of logic. And that is why it was smart. Allah

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when Allah is a Christian writer who, you know, translates Islamic books and

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but, but he is a christian palestinian writer,

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who's pretty fair, you know, his books are very good and his papers are very good. In general, whatever he produces is pretty fair and good.

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But when he translated it a man's book $1 19. He called that against Greek logicians, even if they may against Greek logicians. He recognized what we have failed to recognize that abney Tamia himself was a logician,

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his his he was a master of the rational sciences, but he was opposed to certain conclusions and methodologies of Greek musicians. head does not mean that he that he refuses logic that he refuses systematic reason and go or that he refuses making systems of reasoning to guide the intellect.

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And the same applies to his rejection of philosophy also, because he is considered to be, you know, in a sense, he was a philosopher. In a sense, they consider him to have prefigure the nominalism to have pre prefigured the British empiricism

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in his philosophy, what is philosophy after all, what is philosophy, systematic in inquiries into the truth in different fields.

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you know, logic logic as a as a subdivision

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we set up because Allah Rahim Allah said that you have to master it to be a scholar

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Abadi Rahim Allah in his sudden lamb Solomon when our rockvale dari which is a former logic he said what whole feeder was he

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unleashed the golly

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okay be Allah, Allah satin

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because this will apply to philosophy as well while holding fou fija as he listed it the inequality of no Salahi.

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One way you

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have Rama

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well Karla Bauman, and he is referring to casati here,

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young Bobby

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and your alumna.

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Well, Pamela Thomas hoorah to Sally.

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Jo aszu Lisa lemon parihaka

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Alamo Madison Madison it will be

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the third year

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be he he lost our baby.

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Yeah, to be honest.

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So we'll hold 100 for the disagreement feature as it is theory concerning you know, the practice of logic learning and practicing logic, be our philosophy inequality there's three different positions or views concerning this fabinho Salah he went away to main scholars is harana de forbade

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wirkkala calm when he was also a main shaft a scholar in buggy on your alumni, it must be known when colada statement and Matura. Popular Asahi ha, correct. the wazoo it's permissibility Lisa Lamb who has sound curry high intellect, the it is its permissibility to one more sound into the origin. Okay.

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Hello, Madison, as soon as you will be delighted to be here. So I'll be the one who is a follower practitioner here follower of the sun and keytab to be guided to that which is thought to that which is correct to guide his way of reasoning to guide his way of reasoning to that which is correct. So I believe in this, and I believe in it. Not the you know, not when it as you know,

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not just for logic but for philosophy. Because after all, after all.

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This is the middle position here that it is permissible for someone who has completely sound intellect, and someone who is a master of the Sun and the Kitab knows well the sun and GitHub to be guided to that which is so about to be guided to that which is correct.

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There are a few issues here. So when we talk about philosophy, when we talk about philosophy, and we talk about how it caused the misguidance what is it that the mayor Amala was opposed to when he opposed the philosophers. He was opposed to syncretism.

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That's how

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he was imposed eclecticism.

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And he was opposed also to

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syncretism and eclecticism in particular, syncretism. syncretism is basically when you

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when you're sort of your system of beliefs, allows incorporation of foreign concepts from a different system.

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Islam as a religion does not allow syncretism does not allow foreign concepts to be patched to it into it. Basically, Islam does recognize that there is wisdom, you know, but when it comes to the

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metaphysics and particularly there is no room for syncretism, you know, so when God tells you about the unseen, you can to basically have Aristotle also also tell you about the unseen. And then we consider them to be parallel truth, a truth that is coming from God and a truth that is coming from our thoughts about the unseen about the angels and what they are. Are they just intermediaries or what is what is their role? What is their nature?

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Is it reasonable to think that these would be parallel? No, certainly not. Is it reasonable to think that metaphysics in general would have, you know, that philosophy in general would produce anything that is good in metaphysics? Emmanuel? Kant said, No, it is not. In the Critique of Pure Reason. Emmanuel Kant said that the intellect is not designed to even examine metaphysics, because it's just beyond, you know,

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beyond that, its domain. The intellect is incapable whatsoever. So if we if we pose the kantian question to the philosophers who have been talking about metaphysics,

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this is what they believe they may or may not allow saying, you know that what are you doing? You have no ability. It's either rationalist or empiricist. Or, you know that so the rationalist would either be inductive or deductive

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method of thinking, and then you have the empiricists.

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And so if you were talking about the angels, and he was talking to angels, and he's talking about God and he are talking about the heavens, how are you going to figure anything out using any of these methods, and that is, so syncretism. eclecticism is basically not when you have certain foreign concepts to the system of belief that you have. But when you yourself are eclectic,

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you know, so you have a piece of furniture from here you have a piece of furniture from there is some people like to do this and furnishing your home, that's absolutely fine. You could be as eclectic as you want.

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But, but when you have when you form your own system of beliefs and your value system eclecticism is not original, you have to be grounded somewhere. And then you have to benefit from wisdom that comes to you. But you have to be grounded somewhere you have to have you have to put your feet somewhere in a solid place and be grounded. And then you could benefit from the wisdom that comes from other directions but being eclectic in your

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That is why we say at Nomad is the seminar kitabi the follower of this in an attempt to be grounded somewhere first. And many people think that they are grounded and there are other the underground, they're just like the thing, they're too arrogant. So the first thing that we're saying here is that whether it is logic or philosophy, in order for this to not be you know another form of syncretism, or eclecticism, and in order for you to have a genuine

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system and then benefit from wisdom that comes to you from

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wherever direction you should not

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study those things without being grounded in your own system of beliefs first, and your own worldview, Outlook etc. So, that is one important thing, one important thing the second when it comes to philosophy is that even if they may or may not recognize recognize, because many people say How could you be warm to philosophy and you are like an admirer of ebony to me Hanbury, admirer of anatomy, it sounds extremely contradictory and crazy and stuff. It is really not because if you understand where, where he's coming from,

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like, first the first thing that you have to understand is that even if me is not infallible, and if you

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if you if you basically

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hold that view,

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in theory or in practice, because no one holds it in theory, no one in his right mind will say that anyone is infallible, aside from the prophets all sudden, but some people hold it in practice. Like he has them he is not infallible, but he made like two mistakes and minor issues like a you know

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Here's one and here's the other one. And that's it, but that makes them infallible in practice.

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The second thing that is important to understand also is that sometimes you need to provide the anti thesis

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when the theses that you are attacking is basically corrupt, you need to provide the anti thesis can leave it for time to provide the synthesis between the two between the thesis and and at the end the anti anti thesis. So even if me I was coming after a time where the ABC and I was talking about, you know, there was no there will be no resurrection, some other people talking about no resurrection, ignorant himself despite the fact that he was happy. He was talking in his books on philosophy about the about the collective immortality of humanity, basically, our souls merging with the cosmic intellect. And that's completely foreign to Islam, individual immortality of people in the agenda is

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the proper Islamic creed. So, you are be So, you can imagine it potamia hearing that said this, because of his practice, because of his involvement in philosophy, and certainly he would be out to deconstruct this to attack it and to provide the anti thesis because it is not time for synthesis. Now, it is time to stop this because it could corrupt the you know creed of Muslims. So that is what what happened, but there will be a time for synthesis.

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So what is so philosophy is about metaphysics.

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But it is not only about metaphysics, that is when philosophy is most misguided, because the the the intellect has no access to metaphysics, but philosophy is about axiology it's about ethics, it's about aesthetics, it is about you know epistemology, there is philosophy of science, there is philosophy of politics, there the philosophy is a systematic inquiry, it is a call to thought in general. And

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even if a man has attacked philosophy and logic he wasn't logician and philosopher. He himself recognize that that muhabbat analysts the law is the law him laser beam a crew

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so to speak to the people you know, of different fields or different disciplines, in their own lingo, in their own vernacular is not dislike Muhammad Allah, Allah, Allah Hi, ma seven Raku, evac DJ, whenever it is needed, it is not this like he even said that this is just like you speaking to Romans and Turks in their own language and

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norms and customs, it is not just about language, the fact that you speak the language does not mean that you know about the people and that you can speak to the people in their own ways, norms, in a way that they may they relate to and they can understand

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this so he recognized the importance of speaking to people and their own vernacular. So when you speak to philosophers, you speak to philosophers in their own vernacular. When you speak to logicians, you speak to logicians as he did.

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That is why he is considered to be to have prefigured the the British empiricists, then to be you know, fit pre prefigured, anomalous and so on and so forth. So he spoke to them in their own language, otherwise, they would have completely disregarded his books dismissed his books.

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But they consider them because he was speaking to them in their own vernacular, and they consider them to be to have provided the most incisive rebuttal refutation of Aristotle in the Middle Ages, despite the fact that he's a theologian and not only a theologian of happy not, you know, not a philosopher. So speaking to them in their own vernacular, in order for us to speak to them in their own vernacular, we will have to have some people, some people who are well grounded in the parameters and to be also well grounded in philosophy and to provide for us a different take on philosophy, to be able to teach us about philosophy and to provide for us different things about

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philosophy as entertainment said long kalamunda popular yet they have good you know, discourses and good input good contribution in other than metaphysics, in you know, natural sciences and things of that nature.

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So, that is the bottom line. Philosophy does not provide you with conclusions.

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You make up your conclusions, it is about systems

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Automatic inquiry. So a philosopher like Piper Bahasa, for instance, or Mohammed Satan's alien, you know, Muhammad Shahbaz, Muhammad said, in Sudan and Egypt, these people are not the you know, they have practiced learn philosophy and thought philosophy, and so on the you consider them to be philosophers, teachers of philosophy, but they're not giving any conclusion, any conclusions that are in conflict with Islam. So, as long as you are well grounded, and as long as you understand the intellectuals subservient to the revealed knowledge, you could speak to people in their own vernacular. And it will be important to do this because we cannot deny that philosophy, particularly

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modern trends, and philosophy has a huge impact on people, particularly college students, and so on. So basically, to pretend that, you know, philosophy does not exist, and no one would be exposed to it. And it will not cause anyone any crisis of faith, or anything is just completely misinformed and misguided. Therefore, we need to basically construct our own narrative within philosophy and with using that lingo, and that vernacular, otherwise, we're up to major catastrophes.

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And in the generations to come, as Muslims, particularly Muslims who are living in the West, where the entire culture is predicated on Greek logic, and Greek philosophy, we will have to provide our narrative that is rooted in our own values, but speaks the language of the people.

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That's it was philosophy come from the other stuff, nobody like

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