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Regarding the Sufi,

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just by hearing the word Sufi Sufism song, some people get, you know, goosebumps simply will have their hair standing on their heads, some people say stuff like that. What I want to say to you brothers Is that what you got to look at is you got to look at the group and what they're doing.

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And as I said to you,

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there are things that are not clearly in the Quran, Hadith.

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And I'm not going to get too deep into this because this subject alone will take about one hour for me just to cover all aspects of what goes on. All I want to say is that there's a purity in this, if you don't like anything else, just take the purity, sort of Sophie's of the best of character. There are some models, and they have very, very good, humble ways. And they've got the absolute excellent sort of manners. If you don't like anything else, take that from them. Take the good character from them, take the good morals from them, take the good things from them. Right? If they talk about Vicar, if you go, if you have a difference of opinion, go and talk to the chef's talk them directly,

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don't stay back. And, you know, listen to gossip or a book you've read or leaflets, you've had to go to the right go to the you know, to the actual person say, well, I've heard you do this, what's your evidence? So I really haven't got the time to go into this. If you like it, like the explanation, except it. If you don't find it's good. Leave it but what don't do one thing. Don't just do thing just to criticize people. It's so easy to say, you know, he's not doing a good job. He's not doing a good job. And just sit yourself and not do anything good. It's not good to do that. Please love these brothers and sisters who are in these Sufi groups. And I'm not I'm not saying all of them with

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this one works with you. I'm not saying every Sufi in the world is okay or a please, please don't take me out. Don't take my words out of context. There are many Sufi groups that are very good. There are some Sufi groups that are deviant. But to understand what they're doing what they're not doing, you must go and you must search the research with the deobandis and the brumbies. I think that's the last one that we've got to cover on this. They've got just a couple there were about three issues between them. The three issues and and you know what, I'll be honest with you, I've sat with both groups. And I can see a clear path in the middle middle path where both of them can get on

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together. But yet, if both of them is polemics, one is pulling this way one is pulling that way one says this side of them, and I can see both of them have got a point of agreement, for example, that they opened his claim that the sushi that they always say the domain is claimed the Braille we say, that Prophet had every part of the knowledge of the unseen just like Allah.

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They claim that I have taught directly to commands of the Braille the sect, and I have not found any man to this day to believe in that

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big imams. I've been to Hajj two years ago, with a group. I don't know how I ended up there, but with a group of 300 bellies.

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I must say, we started with the, you know, five seniors so many days isn't that but then in the end, we became friends. Seriously. Why? Because Alhamdulillah I praise Allah has given me a good heart.

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I went up to the moms and I told him that we've got to basically, you've got to be good to people. You can't just expect people just to be good to you. You've got to go out your way to be good to people, and then talk to them nicely and see what they say. I asked that Imam a big one of the big I won't take the name because then he might get in trouble. Right. But no, he won't get in trouble because he actually said to me, he said to me, Amazon mentioned the name. Great demand, you know, they know the

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Alba road mosque.

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Parking.

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Albert road mosque. Yeah. Is the mosque there with a wedding hole in front of you as a Hindu temple there. You know, another person talking about the Imam of that. Yeah, ma'am. Jamshed great, great guy. And he's clearly from the Vietnam from the day one day.

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And I sat with him in Medina. And I said

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to him, tell me about this, what do you believe? And he said, we believe that whatever Allah gave to the Prophet salallahu alayhi Salaam in terms of the knowledge of the unseen, he had that much only

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greater or less whatever Allah gave me, and I believe the same thing under the bundys under Bella's bill, the same thing. This thing has been taken out of context, because there's been certain gravies very few. You can show me literally love three, four people in the literature and certain domains that have basically tried to slow to each other in the literature.

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I once said he believes that they don't say yes, I do believe that in this field. You cannot label a group a whole

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Massive, you know, 100,000 years, millions of people are following that you can label them just because of a few individuals. Okay? You've got to be careful you know in doing that. So he said that and I'm you know what he said to me further I said to him, man,

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you know, we talked also about the news is a big issue but the news

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was perhaps the lesson the mood was he craved from neuro and what mood was that and so on and so forth. It Be very clear about it. He said to me on the dinner table in Medina, he said, the dopamine This is not a single Deobandi that will not accept Milan autonomy, his writings, yes or no, Allah Matangi, shafston v. Monahan, we are gonna call him that he was one of the greatest scholars of the open the legacy. He said in his book, national creed physically, Habib is about the book in the praise of the Prophet sallallahu, in which one on autonomy Rahmatullah Allah he he, he wrote himself and I've read the book from cover to cover. This is me saying to me saying, in that book, The first

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Hadith that the Imam quotes and a few honeysuckles is about the mood of the prophets of the Muslim. Yes, there is a difference of opinion whether you say that that mood is actually the new of Alon. I'm telling you the brave is don't believe in that. Go to the Imams when are you trying to say that a part of God cut off from him from his light and he basically made Mohammed from are you trying to say part of him is missing and that is Mohammed now the

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same way on this side? There's people saying that they want these don't read read the students after the press.

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You're laughing? Yeah, they believe in that I'm serious about them and do what they never come to this message and the people of this message, never go to that machine. That is the biggest problem. You know what I had a friend up in the Midlands One day, he thought to himself, you know why he's not enough. He's gonna walk across the road to the other must've.

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Literally, I'm not joking. There's one bow here and one do just that that may be less than this much of these tools, right. And the I used to go to the salon every day, these guys go this way we go that way. We come back out with this flower like we work together where he goes home, I go home, they come back and he goes away with they say never in their lives. I've never in my life or dead step numbers to be my dad would uh

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you know, I might come into a spa, you live into the masjid. And the same on the other side. One day, he walked in the masjid in our Masjid.

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And to the surprise, the man with the Salaam everyone got up and start reading as soon as

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he said now.

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And even back to the other side. He went to the man and he said, Hey, man, you know what I went across the other machines? And I asked the large robber.

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They say that's what they say to you that you know, you became You know, there are some Look, there are some images on our side as well as images that are really, you know, that they really need some training. Right? So that involves a team that's the one talking about they've never read this one as I went through my own eyes and talking about is not right. On our side, we've got the same thing. We've got Imams, they've been the Imams or all their lives talking about them, they've never gone and sat with them and discuss these issues. I have Alhamdulillah and any brand new mom I will meet I will go and discuss it with them with a good heart. And that amount said to me, I'm Jim, she said to

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Medina, he said, I said to him, I said Hey, man, why don't we make a forum?

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Or we let's not call a big part. Well, let's just get together. I'll stand up for my son you stand up for you, sir. Let's get together and let's bring these two communities together. He said I am saying to you I said okay, he said to me, no, he said my youngsters Mr. Massey would be the first to say yes to this. It's just unfortunate once after my husband went to the mustard and he was he was out. So I was gonna actually talk to him about the issue but inshallah we'll go again, just taking out the time and going there finding him and so on his issue, but inshallah we'll go again and inshallah if in my lifetime Allah can do this, then I will do that. You know what, you still refuse

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money, who is a very great remove to tuck his older brother. He is in this position in his Juma corpus in downtown Karachi. He's an open D in his Juma hoppers. He has the open these Braille these seller fees, a quanties. And you know, the ladies that come they all come in his clothes, you know why? Because he's a neutral Eman. And that's what I'm supposed to be. He hasn't given up his job and isn't isn't open there is 100 if you like me, I'm a domanda mahallesi there's nothing wrong with that. But I can get on with people because I've got a heart to give space to believe is in my heart. I've got if I've got a serious difference of opinion with you. I'll just tell you if it's not from

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the Quran, Sunnah, I'll tell you exactly what I believe in the process and I'll show you black and white. If you don't agree with you. Fine, I still will pray for you. I will love you as a Muslim brother not gonna give you up. Unless you disagree with me. It is such a matter that there's no scope of me accepting that. That's when I can't do anything about it. That's when I will have to depart from

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But that's very rare. It's rare that that will happen. So these are the issues in movie, the nude, and did the professor Latham Harish have a shadow or not? And the birthday of the Prophet.

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Big Issue, the birthday of the Prophet prophet or Beulah? Well, you know, whoever comes out or whoever doesn't come out, I see this the man gone. Oh God come.

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I'm telling you clearly that in you look into the Deobandi with a certain Deobandi Allah who have accepted the other side and certain value Lama who have not accepted this side so Allah lived I'm not going to go into the issue of who's right and who's wrong on this wall, I will say is this follows with my open wide heart I will say this, I've never gone out and marched on the 12th of February Oh, well, to praise the promises and birthday. But I've never condemned the people who come out. You know why? Because a lot of the people who come out they come out and their only attachment to the dean is this.

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love these brothers? I feel sorry for them. They only have five attachments to the Dean 15th of Siobhan 27th of Ramadan eat number one eat number two and the fifth one is either gonna be the Prophet Vesti they've got five attachments. You start telling the guy this a mate there's no 15th of shabani so you got

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four left for connections to do you don't Baba you know what 27th of Ramadan Yeah, it could be a little harder but you know what it could be any one of the other Nine Nights was this true

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for me gambling 10% now so I don't come

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free let say don't come on top was never celebrated this type of Milan again you start giving him all this acne and then he'll stop that he's got the two Aedes all you're going to see this brother doing as you come to eat prayer with these cool hairstyle. You know I'm saying my brother. He come in he in the back row he no do no boo Baba.

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He the stander he wants to see his mates. I want to come out they're gonna pump the music are

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they gonna know Dean, you know, understand nothing. He only know how to basically

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that's why

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the more unique is because you've got to give him an alternative. You've got to give an alternative. If you don't replace these things with another thing, then he's just going to be lost and a lot of brothers like they come up with. I know one thing I like about them is that they've got a lot of love of the Prophet sallallahu and there's a hadith in Bukhari Subhana Allah the Hadith in Bukhari and man he started to he was drinking you know, drinking was allowed in early Islam so used to drink and it's a drink and he got caught up in early slump in the early stages you got caught drinking it will basically First Officer Some said say just just say bad things just a foul things make him make

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him feel sorry sorry for themselves so they did that. After a while. He said you know, take your shoes off and beat with the shoes your sandals is beating the sandals. Yeah, after a while then he got more serious and more serious and more serious right? But in those days when he was you know, he got caught a few times and your promises and said see this team and he got caught again problem says elliston got caught again. President said take your sandals on beat him up. And then somebody came and he said let's you follow what should we do to that guy?

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professionalism said, you know, the love he has for Allah and His messenger is a lot of love that he has.

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He has a lot of love for Allah and His Messenger in his heart. And Prophet sallallahu wasallam praised him for that love. Sasha Buhari, you got to look at the good of Muslims. You know when these things basically come back you're gonna look at you know, a positive way of kind of being another savage is just the last one to take a q&a right now the Sahaba he kept him alive, he said.

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He said Mashallah, give me permission to drink.

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Professor Lawson didn't say no Sahaba angry who said do you pray said yes. Do you speak the truth said Yes, sir. Okay.

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These early days of STEM, please don't take this as a fatwa to go and start drinking.

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Thanks to Hassan Ali

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is nearly days later is completely prohibited, right. So Professor Lawson in the early days said to him, you know, Okay, come come to the masjid. So he the guy used to come to the masjid. And he used to bring his bottle up to the mustard door, and he should put it at the bottle at the bus door and then he's to come in,

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is to pray the needs to go up. After a while the person felt guilty. Then he start to leave his popular home. Then after a while he felt more guilty that he smashed his bottles or he gave up his you know, rum of wine, whatever here and then he became like the rest of the Muslims. Now there's hikma there's ways of you got to look at each person differently. See how you're gonna call to them? You can't just say

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hello hairstyle, haraam jeans around this, how long term you How long?

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Whichever, you can't do that. But let's come to the dean. You know he wants to you can't just say you know, don't listen, don't do this. Don't do that.

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Give them a try. The guy just can tell right from the dean, you've got to take it easy on some people, you gotta take it easy. All right. Now the q&a, please.

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Do you have to join feet two feet during Salalah? Now you can ask me.

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Look, there's a, there's an opinion that you have to join feet, there's an opinion dies that you don't join feet, feet, right? Both opinions are there. I've seen Hadeeth on both sides. Right? What I will say to you is, if you find a brother next to you, and you try and join your feet to him, and the brother likes it, that's fine. If the brother doesn't like it,

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please don't go tu tu tu tu tu tu. And the guys don't need you to do

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literally their annual

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splits. Please take it easy, because sometimes I personally just personally Okay, I'll know both sides of the aisle. Okay. The majority actually believe that you don't have to join the free the majority, but there's a minority that do believe that you should join the feet. And I personally find a bit irritating. And you know, you know, once one guy said, you know, but the shutdown will go past, you know, your side if you don't decide, my friends, but by the time you basically open you're gonna go in and out. You know, he's got loads of space to go in and out. Yeah, so that excuse is not a good excuse. All right. What I would say to you is Look, the brothers who want to join, let them

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join the brothers who don't want to join, just leave them alone. Right and let's get on with one of the celery brothers. Tell me that it is okay to do muscle over normal cotton socks that allow water to sleep seep through. They say that Sahaba must have had holes in their socks because Okay, with the Holy Spirit, I'm going to keep it short. Do you or do you not follow my papa sophistic if you follow mother stick to your mother if you don't follow madhhab then what are the commands you follow? Please listen to them and go but stick to your principles. Once they tell you more and and sooner stick to them at some levels up to I'll be honest with you, I met a man right man. He plans

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to necrotic me once a lecture two hours. I was like,

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right. And the one day I've got him on an issue. I said the Quran says because the brother said to me said Eat Eat this. I said Where do you get the meat from? He said he said I say Bismillah in it. I said say this when I need I'm going a minute he's telling me to he said he said Hadith. I said okay well What is it?

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What is the same SQL Bismillah you know, you can say this knowledge? So my friend, you've been preaching to me Quran so now these days.

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The Quran says voila, Taku Mima Allah muscari smooth La Jolla la the Quran says do not eat from that which Allah name hasn't been taken over. you're quoting me ahaadeeth with a last name might not have been taken over and you just say Bismillah while you eating and it's okay. You tell me now are you now following Quran? festa Suna first what you do now, guy was

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he couldn't give me an answer. And I kept pressing and I said give me an answer. You follow how a Buddha would and I'm giving you an idea of the Quran there's no Philippians it

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couldn't give me an answer. So please, whatever you follow, if you can say transcona just follow your principle don't break it because once you break it then you follow your desires or you do things that are not lawful. Select brothers tell me not to follow mother because it ain't always possible like chef, like Shafi during tawaf at HUD cannot follow rule of Voodoo breaking because it is impractical, therefore, they are told to follow

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some another opinion How is that possibly both? Listen to me, you're sharp, you're hanafy we'll both get together. Now. There are certain imams who follow me to tell you this. They will tell you this, okay. They will tell you you as a hanafy. Your Witter won't be done behind humbly because the humble leaders to together then the Salam than one. I am telling you they are wrong. They've been the Hanafi wherever they are, they are wrong. Because the the ethos, the unity of this oma is that whatever you are behind, your Salah is accepted behind that inner if the Imam if I am any man, what what happens in therapy. I prayed behind the Shafi mantra we there's a such that in the end of the

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17th Jews that the Shafi say there's a such that the the Hanafi said there's no such that they are prayed behind him that Ramadan. He was a Shafi I did study that with him behind him all mammals sadly many of them have is that such that behind him, a one to one came in 23rd Jews, he did such that behind me the Sharpies don't accept that the 100 is except that that is the unity of the oma. The same happens in Silicon Valley than many other issues right? In same thing, tawaf or you bring me with her or anything my Salah as a Hanafi is accepted behind the humbler Imam inside the harem in taraweeh in 30 lights of Ramallah when I pray behind him and his Salah is accepted behind me when I

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pray three together with it, and I don't basically make any Salaam in between. Correct that see because you behind this

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Man, he's salads accepted. Yes, sir. That's where the unity is. And if you find anyone telling you, for example, that there was four different places for Salah in front of the Kaaba, you know, before you know about 200 years ago there's a humble place and every place Malik lays and so on. First thing the the duration of this is very weak.

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The quotation of whatever book dies from there's been tactic on this has been, you know, some research and this is weak second, even if you do accept it, I reject their stance. I completely reject the stance, you come the whole way in arms. You know what Imam Abu hanifa did? When he came to my Malik place in Medina, he told his companions to pray the way my family pays when you come to Medina Subhana Allah Shafi he came to the grave of Mount Abu hanifa knew that there was a mercy I'm sure if you pray to Ricardo according to the way that Imam Abu hanifa understood from the sooner this is it this is the love of the of the Maleficent anything different from that I rejected from

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any man who disagrees. I reject him and his view, because that is not going to lead to a unity that's going to lead to disunity.

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Can you explain the term Allison ojama again, with these titles, this fights I'm the Allison ojama Not you, me and so on, right. The thing is, look, don't fight over these names, right. There's a lot of groups that are calling us as Allison ojama but put it this way, if you follow the the way, Schoenberg proffesor lost the McLaren and then after the wave of the Sahaba, the Nelson ojama and and all of these that are claimed they all contain their Allison ojima.

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I'm not gonna go further in that Now, you mentioned about Akita and all these in the list are okay, but what about wahabis? Who believe Allah has physical features such as hands feet? How can this actually be correct? Okay. With the

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there's been I've just been okay, some of the olema here might have been on the same thing on the olema forum. We have an old ama forum, about 500 different scholars, ranging from Canada, America, Europe and Africa. Right. We have regular debates on there. There's been huge, lengthy debates on this issue about what they actually believe in. Right and about the management of female Rahim Allah, what he believed about Allah and about the Tamia whether he believed that Allah could sit on the throne or not, and all this issue okay. The conclude there hasn't been a final conclusion. But what it looks like is there's been a gross misinterpretation of his works across Mr. Trump, in fact,

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the very source that they quote from from his time that somebody said that heard or saw him. Tamia say that there's been a very interesting discrepancy in his report. And the other fact is that there's been a lot of enemies of immunity, Mia Rahim, Allah who have added things to his work. Same happened with molar autonomy recently, a lot of people have added things to his work and same will happen in great amounts, people will come afterwards and they will add things to their works and then you won't know what is right and what is wrong. What I will say to you is on this issue, let's not fight over the issue, right? Because the thing is, the common denominator is you believe in a

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line he believes in Allah Let's stop it there. You will believe a counter that he's a believer according to that. Okay. Now he says to you, what do you say about the hand of Allah the feet of Allah, there's no common denominator is you believe in that verse? He believes No, because both of you believers, then he says to you, but what do you actually say about the integrity? What does it mean?

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The further down you go, if you're going to start ending up trying to pull him to your own party into his party, you're gonna end up fighting? Well, I will say to you is these things won't just be so clear. Now, be very honest with you centuries have gone with these debates here. If his mom is saying one thing your mom is saying, This is not an area, this is not an area that will take you out of the fold of Islam. Please remember that, if it was in the fact that whether Allah exists or not, that will take you out of the fold of Islam, if it was whether the attribute exists or not, that will take you out of the fold or not, if you don't believe in something that does exist for Allah.

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But on an issue of how to interpret this and how not to interpret this. This is not an issue that will take you out of the fall of Islam, and I'm giving you the most widely appreciated and accepted view. And we just have to put up with this with one another until we reach the dead and we'll find out that this will not take you out of the fold of Islam on either side.

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How do the statements of the Imams Abu hanifa Rahim Allah follow this follow the Sahih Hadith It is my mother prefer to okay. It is quite clear. You tell me. If a If a judge said if a judge said in a court with his lawyers, they're addressing his lawyers. He said to them after giving his conclusion he says this is my judgment. If you guys find anything contradicted to my judgment, throw it against the wall. If a judge says that two lawyers in a court

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does that have a difference than me?

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Same to you. Brothers. If you find anything different minds or throw it against the wall, there's a massive difference. Now, Abu hanifa wasn't talking to Tom, Dick and Harry. He was talking to the great imams of his time to the 40 people he used to sit every day and debate a hadith and debate about the fact that if you find anything contrary meaning that I have reached the most savvy and authentic conclusion, I've reached it from my own research method, everything debating and collecting. I've reached it. If you not find anything, throw it against the wall, because you won't find it. That's the whole problem. That's the whole point. You will find it against grace. Honey,

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that's the judges statement. So that's how you have to understand you know, certain quotation like this.

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Dr. Rocky like says praying with keeping hands under the navel is weak. Hadees Should we listen to him? Okay, firstly, Dr. Zack, Kenai. May Allah bless him and his works. He's an excellent diary. But I'm saying this, and I know I'm being recorded on this, right and I can be challenged by doctors, I can I can this. He's not a qualified scholar in the dean.

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He's an excellent guy. He's an excellent invited to the religion, through him, many people are coming to the religion and inshallah will come to religion and May Allah give him a long life. May Allah give him a lot of Baraka in his work that he's doing. But his, you cannot take on something that you do not, you're not expert in. He's an expert in data, I give him the credit. But he's not an expert in the field of knowledge.

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And he's making mistakes.

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I've studied fit for nine years in a boarding school. And after that I'm still studying it to today is a total of 21 years. And I'll tell you very honestly, I still feel that I'm this smooth. Because I'm still making mistakes, in my, you know, in the way I see it, and I've covered Come on, I've covered the Hades in this in the whole six books of Hadith and so on. And I've gone through so many books, and so many imams quotations, and so on and so forth. So many books I've read, so many scholars have sat at the feet of, and I'm telling you, I feel very smart. And there's many other scholars like me, who will say the same thing. Now, I'm not as an expert like him in dour, you bring

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a few Hindus, I won't be able to do the same thing that he does. But I probably would probably just say Laila, Laila Hilah, yeah. But he can do he can quote from their books within memory that Allah has given Subhana Allah May Allah bless him in that, yeah. But in the field of knowledge and fic, I do not give him any credit, simply because I've heard myself where he has made mistakes, clear mistakes, because the thing is, if you just look at a few Hadees, and you've had a few people, and you try and make conclusions that you think, you know, all of it, I mean, to study the 50 you have to be fluent in Arabic, in your reading of Arabic in your understanding of Arabic, I have to start

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to study classical Arabic, I just thought the syntax morphology, how to study, you know, the the, the Arabic of 1400 years ago 1300 1200 1100 10. And you know, you carry on going to the ears, modern, you know, Arabic And so you have to go into the understanding of every eye of the Quran Tafseer of every single ayah of every single word of every single thing and this is not a small game.

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And I will say to you that please take dollar from him.

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Take his dollar learn from you the way he gets down, but don't take it from him. And to understand say this, this thing about weak Hadees there are 10 sahabas, from whom that it is reported they they used to hold their hands under the needle. Eight of them have got clear references one or two I've just seen this the other day, right? Two of them are clearly in in the authentic, not just to have nothing, a good four five of them Osiris.

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For him to say too weak Hadith, he hasn't completed his research. I've just seen this in a book just literally four days ago. Right? This total of 10 swabs is recorded from and if you have 10 sahabas who do this are you telling me that they they they you know they work in a week Hades you know they'd be left weak and as I said to you, the brothers holding here the brothers hold it there and in fact if I pull out a Hardee's I will find you more down here then then more there.

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But I don't want to start polemics I don't want to say look that weekend because you've only got four hobbies I've got 10

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it's not a game like that. You've got even 100 lebrato please practice, please practice and these kind of games where you so we had even these don't don't go down that line. Yeah, selfies follow albani. But he doesn't have a chain to this lesson then how can they

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something

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To be acceptable albani has Rahim Allah

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again the question the one who wrote this this you would write Abu hanifa but you put Rahim Allah next to that so when you are shackled man is saying please for Rahim Allah be just the just so Bonnie has had many places and altering Hadees incorrect now first thing is have you judged Alberni rahima hola sheharbano hola Oh has have scholars Justin, if you're a scholar sitting here You shouldn't be even asking me this because scholars will deal with the matter whether he has heard or whether he hasn't heard second thing is as a common person you're not supposed to get into the into the

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deep matters of this. Third thing is share Alberni Rahim Allah to understand this well, you have to go into his works, I will tell you that most of the scholars who have judged him have judging from third parties.

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I've met few people who have judged him from his actual sources. And yes, there are contradictions in the title sometimes you said one is the head and he said is that there are some contradictions like that. But which scholar hasn't made mistakes, every scholar makes mistake just because of that. You can't just discredit the chef. And the chef, you saying that he hasn't got a change to the sauce La Silla? I will say to Elijah Bella,

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that is absolutely incorrect. The chef has studied under other shoe, he has got chefs who studied under the shoes up to the professor Lawson Yes, the difference is there. I've told you in Croatia, that there is a holistic and literalist approach that just divide got wider and wider today, people who say for our mother don't call a mother. They are the same two categories. My brothers there's no difference. It just the divide is become wider. That's all that both exists. I'm not saying to you, you know, follow anyone No, I personally found 100 grandmother and I've got reasons to follow mother because I've told you it saves you from whims and desires. Another thing it saves you from is that

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if everyone is given the given the license to open his own mud hub,

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and if everyone can just look in the Quran as soon as they actually, you know, one guy said to this, he said, Aki I've got my Buhari said,

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as I said, so what so what you've got

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is avakian I've got my nine volumes on basically reading it.

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He said, What are you reading to me? At that time about 20 years ago, I said, I'm reading syntax and morphology. Graham said you reading syntax of unreadable heart.

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I said, there's a difference between you. division between me and you is that I basically read syntax and morphology. And in the end, I reach Heidi's and ohare. You taught them how to get confused and end up on syntax and morphology.

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That's I'm telling the truth. That's what's going to happen. brothers who haven't studied the Arabic you're going to start looking at Dr. muffs enhanced translation of Buhari. And now a challenge. I tell you, you bring me Dr. Muslim Khan's translation, I will find you even if a small mistake or a big mistake, I will find you a mistake in every single page of his book. Every single page because the guy is an Arab. He's not an Englishman. You're supposed to translate in your mother's tongue. So general rule, you translate in the tongue. That's your first language. If you're a work of Paul, if you knew both language and translating in Arabic is doing a fantastic job, but he's an Arab and he's

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a doctor in some medicine or some other thing. And he translates Sahil Buhari, and he's made loads of mistakes and that lamb brothers are there thinking man, they've covered the whole of the deen because they've got nine volleys of zaharia. And that's it. Even if you do cover all of that what you don't understand is you still got Muslim left and you got a Buddha Buddha Nicola Timmy the left and you got

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the left and you got the how in a minute then you got the cookie left and you got hot in there then you got bizarre left, then you've got you know, so many these are can carry on.

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And that will take you half a lifetime to cover. And then you've only just covered Heidi's got the whole of serum Quran to cover and the love and the language to cover my brother, you know, don't call these things where you know, you've just become a scholar, scholar just over just reading a book or a couple of verses.

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Alright, now again, these factors, okay? Someone's asking about a fatwa on a certain thing, okay. Fact was a specific to a certain group, and so on. Right fact was, you know, a chef might give a fatwa. That's his understanding at that time, photos change over time. So please don't start fights with photos as well. Best thing to do. All I'm saying to do is though, whatever you've been doing this artwork, tell my kids at the academy that it suffered Academy, North London, actually I'm straight up. I will teach you the 100 way to pray because we need synthesis. We need unity in the class. I can't teach four different mothers of five mothers in one class, I will teach you 100. What

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I tell them is that when you go home, pray, the way your father prays. If your father does rough all day in a home, I'm going to teach you without a fear that I'm going to teach you this once raising your hands. If your father home does roughly then you go home and just always pray like that. But just just

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for unity sake, I'm just going to do I'm just for simplicity sake, I'm going to teach one way. If your father at home prays with me loudly you do i mean loudly, but I'm going to teach you I'm in quietly.

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Simple. I'm telling you brothers and uses the same thing. I'm not telling anyone to leave your backgrounds. Or if you want to reset, you've got to reset Fine, go and meet other Imams, that's fine, we'll do that fine. But I'm telling you look, most of the groups I've taken names of, in fact, almost all of them, I've taken off, I'm telling you that to stay where you are.

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If you want to further research, then do proper research on top the enamels themselves and understand that the fifth intelligence or if you're not going to do that you think that you might get you might get brainwashed, right, stay where you are, because none of you are on the wrong path. You understand? you're practicing brothers Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah. But the thing I was just mentioned earlier, is that if everyone has a license to have their own religion, so your own mother, and if every Tom Dick and Harry becomes a Mufti, then you're going to start having a lot of problems in the deen, because that's what you got today. A lot of the people out there Muslims, so called,

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and I'll call them Muslims, but so called Muslims out there, there are just suicide, committing suicide bombing and so on. Then God know who the shake is. The shake is themselves.

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He himself and one of his name is the three of them. One person, yeah.

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Trinity, sorry. And he is everything. He's the reference. He's He's everything. Right? My friend. You can't, you can't do that. And there's even said m&ms. They make themselves the judge of the entire country. And then maybe themselves.

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Who gave you the authority as a judge, you're supposed to get elected as judge other people supposed to make you as a judge used to make yourself a judge of a country you declared yourself you became it? You got your throne, you bought yourself? You sat on it? And then you got your little crown? And you said, I'm the judge of the whole country? Oh my god, yeah, it took a half year of law, you can't do this. You know, you can't just declare a statement and American people have to accept it and give it to you and so on. And, you know, that's how that's how things work. So you know, these these four love shields are telling these people don't go on suicide bombing and it's not that they won't

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listen to them. They'll say to them, you'll be done. Sayonara, your understanding is wrong. Their own teachers their own teachers they're telling them your because the guy studied so much on his own that he's now found himself to be correct and his teacher to be wrong. You know, there's problems like that So please, you know, stick yes to the two places do more research you have to if you feel you're gonna be brainwashed Stay where you are. Nothing wrong with you unless somebody can tell me right now that there's a very big deal group I haven't mentioned please mention now otherwise, we're gonna close the session. There is there is a in Surah An Nisa verse number 59. Where it says that if

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you defer then you basically come back to Allah and His messenger that is there. But how do you come back to Allah say you have to Congo I can go to Allah right now.

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I can go to the messenger account on tick is graver What does it mean? It means that you go to the Quran and you go to the cinema, but that's where the afterlife is.

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So we'll come back to the Quran, Sunnah. And then after that, we're gonna start disagreeing. I'm gonna say well, I see LA, da, da, da, da, da, da, da da, la voz. de. If people follow only Quran, and they say the sooner is not a day, there's no, there's really no space for them. Right? There's no space for them to be true Muslims, okay. In fact, these people become straight deviants, because they will start denying things in, in hobbies. And they'll start saying that this is not that. This is a hobby so badly that I've met I've met someone like that, who just follows the Quran. I said to the brother straight up, I said, Okay, the Quran says akima Salah. How you gonna pray? How do you

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pray? He says, I bow down. I said, Why do you do that? Why do you basically make one record? There's no such thing in the Quran is Raka Why do you pray to the gods? What's such a hadith? He says, Well, I accept mutawatir Hadith. I said, Listen, you're gonna start rejecting, accepting, rejecting accepting, you won't have much left. I was there

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arguing with him for several hours, but he wouldn't accept it. So what I will say is that there really isn't much scope for these people. Again, again, you know, with such people, you have to clearly talk to them and make them understand you can't just declare someone out of the follow some unless you've spoken, clear cut. Some people are be honest with you, they belong to these groups, and they don't know what their beliefs are. Such people might really be believers. You have to go to them and say, Do you categorically believe in this? So do you deny this? Do you deny the five daily prayers because the Quran doesn't say about five because if he says, I deny the five daily prayers,

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I only believe in just prayer. That person is out of the fold of Islam unanimously. But if he says I believe in five daily prayers, but then he says I don't believe in the students and and our feelings and that you can't tell him. He's out of the deal. You got to specifically go into question by question into these things. About his battery. The questions about

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Buta hurried and about the nine brothers of his butare. I've been close to many of those brothers. First thing I will say to you is that speaking to a member of his paternity, and speaking to a common person of his family is like looking at the sky and looking at the ground, right? Same as speaking to a Tablighi person off the street as speaking to Tbilisi, Scala is, as they say, no to me as Bank of America is a difference between the sky and the earth. And so please first look at who you speaking to. Because if you might deny something by just speaking to a person who doesn't know about the group, first thing is you got to speak to the members of his Battalion, if you speak to

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him to an honorable member of his watari, who knows who studied the fools who studied the group who knows the works of tequila Nahanni, Rahim, Allah, who's looked at their principles, and they know how they come together. I will tell you, I've spent several years with these brothers, you know, they have, they have got a lot of common things between most of the people.

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In fact, their methodology also is common with a lot of other people. You will hear the people on the streets saying things that you won't hear the member saying, you'll hear the people on the streets saying that if you don't believe in this, if you don't do this, then you caffeine and you this and you, you say that, but the members won't say that to you. Right. There's Dr. Abdul Wahid, who is a high member of the hispasat. I have regular conversation with him whenever I meet him, very respectable, very honorable person. And what I will say to you look is that the political work they're doing and the awareness that you're trying to make is a positive thing. Because many other

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Muslims are not doing it. I'll be honest with you, many people, you know,

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I have met in my walks of life, who didn't even know about the helipad till they met his body. But I have disagreements with his brutality. I've got several disagreements with them in the methodology in the way they go about and so on, even with members, but those disagreements are not such that I have to say that they are to the fold of Islam. Okay, there was a time in the 1990s that with the influence of the then leader, that they had, those certain things that were coming out of their groups, and I sat with them personally. And what I found is that you have to distinguish again, between the members and between the non members, you have to distinguish with the scholars of his

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theory, and the non scholars of his besotted with the scholars, I sat with a scholar in Wales, two hours, and I had nothing but to praise him. Everything I said, more or less, we're agreeing both together. Prior to that I was disagreeing with his

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students who were not scholars, for months, and years, I was disagreeing with them. But I didn't find an end because they really didn't have knowledge. When I went to their scholar, I found what I wanted to find. Okay. So that's what I have to say a lot of the work they're doing is good work. Okay. In terms of this, there's one great issue that I have about, you know, disagreement is the whole thing about voting, which you just had, you know, a few days ago, where if you know whether voting is haram, and you go and get out of the deen and you become a Catholic and so on by voting, this I have a big disagreement with some of them on this issue. I don't know what the current

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stances because they have changed the stances over the years. Okay, so I might be speaking about something that is not their stance. What I would say to you is that I believe by voting, it is not Haram, it doesn't take you out of the fall, have some but you have to understand this clearly. There are people who vote don't even understand what they're doing our real stance supposed to be that we want. And we want to have a adjust system,

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adjust system

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based on the Quran and the Sunnah for not Muslims only for all of mankind.

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And I'm saying this clearly, because I know I'm being recorded there. And I was going to go on several cases, and people are going to start to look at how they can take me out of context. Now I'm trying to stay within the context here, when a system dies of justice for the entire mankind, for the Hindus, for the atheists, for the Buddhists, for the Muslims, for the Christians, for the Jews, for everyone.

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Okay, to get that there is a specific system we want, because all other systems only cater for a group or they cater for certain groups. We want a system that caters for everyone and that's what we had when the whole of Russia ruling. Okay.

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And if if your intention is that eventually you want that, but at the current moment, your only intention to vote is that you're choosing between the lesser of the two evils. Wish the Prophet sallallahu wasallam did Sahih Bukhari Hadith by Professor Sam whenever he would be presented with two evils he would take the lesser of the two evils. Okay. We know in every one of these things, there is some formerly evil and I'm not gonna go into it, because then you know, I'm probably gonna end up ending up in Belmarsh right. So I'm not gonna go into but there's some form in there that is unacceptable to humanity.

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is not good for humanity, not just waste dumps, not good for humanity. But what we have to say is at the current moment, you're not going to just jump up from the chair and take over the whole of Europe, whole of England, big bends on the EU

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and other Parliament's, you know, right next to you and you you're basically in the know, these things are not going to happen. And such things are far far fetched dreams, we're not even supposed to be thinking along those lines of how to work like that. But in the current situation, you have to go back with whatever is happening in front of you. Sometimes you have to make this choice in the manner of setting. So if the understanding is there, it doesn't become a clear haram or clear halaal. Right. Okay, brothers who are loving a system that is alien to Islam, and they want to go into it and suck into it. And this is it. You know, and there's nothing beyond that there's no other

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greater justice for humanity. Great in that they can't see those brothers on the wrong.

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Those are in the wrong I know, brothers who are in their system in their line are wrong as well. That is the wrong thing. So I hope I've just answered that. Okay, you've heard that the hospitaI don't believe in the punishment of grave. I think that this was an archy that I was that I heard from some of them in the 1990s. I don't know the current situation right now. But whether they do or they don't believe in it is not an issue that will take someone out of the fold of Islam. Why? Because the Quran is not clear cut, absolute clear cut on the issue of allowable cover. And there is a belief there is a string of people within the oma from the beginning to show now, they haven't

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believed I'm not gonna say to you that there are on the truth. I will say to you that the truth is to believe in the punishment of the grave, but if somebody disagrees with it, they will not leave the fold of Islam. Okay, so that's my and if there's people disagreeing with me, you can disagree with me, but he must disagree with me with evidence. Okay, I've read thick books on this whole lot about Hubbard All right. Whether that can be accepted as a source of Aikido. Some scholars believe you cannot accept it, and if that's their soul, you have to just respect it. Also, though, you may disagree with it, you have to respect it, because that's still and you know, the still within the

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acceptable forms, though, you know, we won't accept the fact that other people doesn't doesn't exist, but I don't know what the current stance is right now. But if it whether it is or not giving you the answer, is there a group I haven't mentioned? I'm going to close it please. Right. Quilliam foundation and modern groups. How do we basically proceed and the thing is

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I really don't think I need to get into this right now. Because I think they're coming to the end.

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if not sooner than later.

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I don't know the full I haven't spoken directly to them. Okay. The simply because I think is quite dangerous to go on to directory then because they they might end up putting my name somewhere saying that I get gone too.