Channel: Hasan Ali
Analysing the Lives of the Prophets 27_ Lut Part 2 by Shaykh Hasan Ali
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v Karani okay Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem hamdulillah Amina salatu salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa ala aalihi he was
Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.
This is the second session of Luth, Allah salatu salam.
And he was a prophet, that Allahu Akbar, in the midst of so many people who have been corrupted with the behavior with their mannerism with the way they were acting allows, the judge showed that such a man can still keep his own modesty and his he man with a loss of a judge. Now, again, I'm going to put some disclaimers here, before we carry on. So for the viewing later on any, you know, this, this session is not going to be appropriate for family viewing, or for anyone who's who's a young child, and so on.
So if there's any families watching this, please, don't go ahead. Because there's going to be agile material that's going to be and said here, and you might not find it appropriate, appropriate. Also, like I said, last week, so you have to turn to last week, all my disclaimers, I want to give you a summary of this.
We are discussing things from a religious point of view, from a a Hello soon our Java sooni sort of point of view, from the you know, so we're talking about from the Sahaba of the Allahabad mind their view on the religion. So we're not talking about anyone who's who's, you know, a modernist, or someone who's trying to put a modern touch to the religion of Islam. I will also excluding from here, anybody who has who has any aqidah, or any beliefs that are contrary to the beliefs of the Sahaba of the Allahabad mine, the companions of the Prophet alayhi salatu salam, who all unanimously believed that it is a sin, to commit adultery, and fornication, whether it's with a man or a woman,
and they all unanimously agreed, and believed, and that is our belief too. And we have the right to believe in this, that having any intercourse with the, with the anus of a female or male is completely Haram. Whether it's through marriage or outside marriage, there's no difference whatsoever. That's our belief. And I'm also saying that for this session, and last sessions or anything to do with Luca Lysa, salon, I'm not giving anyone permission to cut out any part of the of the series and copy paste it onto YouTube or any other link or any other site, because that my whole talk is something that must be heard to get my entire entire view. And you know, it can be very
dangerous if somebody was to take part of it, and to you know, to take it out, but nevertheless, we recording the whole thing. So hopefully,
even if somebody was to do that, without my permission, then you can refer to the entire lecture to see what I've actually said. So not to put all those disclaimers in because of the sensitivity of the of this issue. Now, last week, we discussed quite a few things. If I summarize it, what we discussed is that
these were the people of the city of Sodom, loot Allah, Allah Salaam had come there from outside, he settled there. Iran, Mrs. de la Salaam was his uncle, his uncle was living not very far by from where he was, the city of Saddam is exactly where the Dead Sea is at this moment right now. And that's where Luther esalaam was with these people. These people were homosexuals and they were active homosexuals. There's a difference between non active ones and active ones, which we're going to discuss the inshallah, what these people did is that, according to the Quran, and I've said all of this, I'm just going to summarize it, that they were people who are open about what they do they
want to, they want this act to transfer to others, they want others to become like them. They are, they are outwardly. Outwardly they would show their sexual behavior so that they can attract people to having same sex with the same gender. And these people they amongst themselves, that within their own gatherings they would make you know, they would make certain acts of
behaviors that will be very much inclined towards that.
And they, they really didn't want to have intercourse with a female. And because of the situation
because of the nature of this because the actual, the act of homosexuality leads to the cessation or the end of the human civilization, in any part of the world wherever it's carried out. And that and again, Islam does not say that it's prohibited between man to man, it is prohibited between man to woman, for a man to, you know, have sexual intercourse with a woman from Korea, it is forbidden. So we don't see it. You know, like, there are certain people across the world evangelists and others who are against homosexuality, but they only are against homosexuality between man to man, but we are the only probably religion who have got such beliefs, who are trying to who are staying and
sticking to what our, you know, the companions of the Prophet sallallaahu lism had from, you know, from from 1400 years ago, and we have the right to believe in this again, as a summary from last week, we're not making any mockery of these people. We're not trying to say, you know, anything horribly wrong about these people, we're just trying to analyze this whole thing in the light of the hood, and we're trying to come to, you know, to the reasoning, our beliefs from the Quran and from the Sunnah. So anyway, let's carry on. This is the big question is, is this a key question? You know, your morals, my morals and your morals? Who decides our morals? Who decides? Now what we say
as religious people is that God? Allah azza wa jal has decided from day number one in certain aspects, what our morals should be. And there's no going away from that. As religious people we say that. So for example, if if democratically a group of peoples today say that it's okay to be homosexual, and that's their morals. And another group comes out tomorrow and says it's okay to be cannibals and another group comes out, it's okay to be in, you know, committed incest. Another group comes out, it's okay to be pedophiles. And another one comes and says, What about Whoa, Whoa, what's going to end up with it's going to end up with what was the last one said which is what? What is
what? What number one professor Lawson has told us that there's going to be a lot of obscenity that will prevail across the world and Xena will become rife across the world. And it will increase and number two,
this is this is the sad part.
He said that my alma and Bella Vista, Al because Don't forget that many of these crimes started with slavery. They started with the children of his heart la sala that's who they are now his own children but his children, children, children, children, children, salut la Salam was in a way from that sort of family it wasn't him. But those people who around and those people who can later on in the generation demonstrate even though Allah had crushed the whole of, you know, home loot the whole of the Nation of Islam Allah crushed me except for the good people. But what happened is that homosexuality became prevailing again amongst the people are burners, right? So what Rasulullah
sallallahu prophets Allah said that my alma will follow that in like one shoe being identical to another shoe.
So just as just as they went through certain things, my oma will also go through the second phase now if you want to do a proper study of what's going to happen to this oma just go back and study the Jewish nations for the last 4000 years and you'll see how they had troubles and how they divided how liberalism crept inside them and they went offshoot from the traditional sense of Judaism the same thing what happened to Islam and then Professor Lazarus told us he said have the one we have the we nylon banana, just as one shoe is identical to another shoe and you've got in each identical that's how the oma will be he said Hatta
until if one of them
fornication with his own mother in public,
and one of my mama will do the same thing.
That's how bad is gonna get brother? But you look at 100 150 years 200 years ago, this country what it was till today, it's it's like unrecognizable, how much of the transfers happen. But most of that has started Why? Because of the invention of the TV. Old. How do they spread tobacco TV? How do the spread so much fitna and all that is through the TV, you do the study through 1920s 30s 40s 50s and you see how it slowly slowly starts. You know, whoever you you witnessed in the TV, automatically, people start to dress like them, behave like them, act like them.
so on. So all this tobacco and having you know shorter skirts and so on, it all happened and so on and then after a while what happens? We come to the 70s and 80s and now you've got pornography.
Now once pornography has been shown to people and people are getting addicted that because there is an addiction to this, people can get addicted to sex to sex is not supposed to be addictive. Sex is or having sexual intercourse is a gift from allows them it's a gift to human being that they enjoy having pleasure at the same time they procreate. That's what that's what it is.
And what can happen to certain people is they can get addicted to having sex. And that's the disease. A Quran recognizes this. Now I'm going to give you the I'm going to give you the the evidence for that which is in the 14th juice of the Holy Quran.
So, in the middle of a conversation when Allah azza wa jal is talking to human beings is talking to us in the Quran, and he's saying to us the whole story of Lutheranism Islam, he hasn't finished here in the middle of it. Now check this out sooner number 15. And above 72, Allah says lamb Roque
I swear Allah says, I swear
by you, I swear in now whom Laffy sokrati me among these people, they are in an intoxication, moving ahead, blind lessly. Like the just blind, they're so they're intoxicated, meaning that they have got this disease inside them that they are addicted to having sexual intercourse, Yamaha Honda wandering blindly. So what the disease what was once a small thing comes into a great thing in a shape of a disease. Now, the problem here is that over the 20s 30s 40s 50s, and you can go into 70s 80s, what happens is when people are addicted to an animal, they want sexual intercourse, and they're looking at all sorts of types of having sexual intercourse with a woman, they're not going to be satisfied
the move to a man Oh, if they if they want, and after, what is it? Well, they're really not after a woman or man, there are two soft skin, the soft skin, there after smooth skin, then they'll go after children. That's what the PDF files came from.
You got a human being if they're addicted to it, they'll go after soft skin. And that's why they interested in these innocent children.
Now, as believers, we don't deny that a human being can't have any of these feelings inside. Look, let me make this very clear. So am I saying here that it all started from the TVs? And so no, I'm not saying that I'm saying that the spread across the whole of the world, it will spread very quickly through the, through the internet, through the TVs and so on, and why we've got so many people that are that are switched on to it, because you know, they're on social media, they're on you know, they're getting these videos, and it's and it's triggering inside them all of these feelings that they want to go out and they want to act what they've seen.
Now, what do we believe is religious people do you believe that a human being can have the tendency or an inclination towards the same gender? Guess what, from the earliest literature's from the earliest literature, we have got inside our books from the earliest like second generation, third generation Muslims, you look at the books, they have written, that a human can have these tendencies. As a human being, you could grow up, and you could have an inclination towards the same gender, for whatever reason it is inclination to come inside, or the feeling for the same gender could come inside you, in one moment or another. It happens more so in certain settings. This is
very interesting. Very, very interesting why it happens. And look, imagine a young boy is growing, and he's got his hormones, you know, kicking all about and what's the next thing is that if you surround him with females, or he knows the females in front of him all the time, then he's just gonna go for a female, he wants to find a female, he wants to sleep with her, he wants to, you know, fulfill his sexual pleasures, and the woman will do the same thing much he's got males around her and she's going through her in a cycle of puberty. And and she's she's ready to have, you know, to give discharge, she will go for a male. Very interestingly, you look where do we get homosexuals
active in large populations in certain groups? Well, guess what? Let's look at this.
prisons. So you got male prisons, you got female prison? Why is it the case that you've got a large number of lesbians that could get created in prisons, female prisons, why is it that in male prisons, you get a large population of males coming out as homosexuals
And why does the same thing happen, for example, when they've gone to the army? So you've got the army?
The You know what, why do we get the same thing? Why does the same thing happen in some boarding schools? So when you when boarding sort of, we're talking about male only boarding schools, female only boarding schools, and there are studies that show that that can also go there. Why does it also happen?
When people have
have been in similar settings, so the surrounded by males, or another one is a one that is really sad, but it is when people are not, they can't get married, because the mahat is probably too high. At the moment, this is happening in parts of Saudi Arabia, happening other parts of the world as well in Pakistan, and Bangladesh in some other places, you know, all over I don't know which countries, but I've seen researches to do with, you know, certain countries. And I'm not saying it's only defined to these countries, there are other countries across the world where the mahad is too high, they can't get married. And then you get certain populations of homosexuals coming out the
Why? The simple answer to that is, when you've got you've got the urge to fulfill your sexual desires. And you're not, you haven't got the chance to do it with a female, then and and you're surrounded by males, then you fulfill it with with the males around you.
Now, either this happens, because out of desperation, or it happens because it was forced onto them. Now we know about the prison population that people who go inside that if there are homosexuals inside that they will want to they will want to force themselves onto another, another male. And once they force them onto another male. Most cases, those other males become homosexuals as well. We know that another one, the church, the settings of the church, and monasteries, and so on, were clergymen and so on, haven't been able to get married. And they acted upon celibacy, which is not to get married at all. And with young boys in priesthood and so on, they have forced each other on one
another. And these boys have grown up. And there's been many different things that have gone in their mind. So one natural thing that happens with many of them is that they become, you know, they become homosexuals when they grow up. They become like that. And there are studies to show many studies to show that if it is forced upon a child, when the child is young, most likely that child will grow up, and he will have inclination towards that, whether he does it out of His love, or out of hatred. There's two different pathways that he can go to. And that's where you find if you look in the studies of serial killers, serial killers, you find quite a few serial killers were molested
were attacked homosexuals when they were young, and they grew up with a hatred towards a certain gender. You look, I've done these studies, you look at certain, you know, the black Gacy in the 1970s. Right now, if you looked at the his history, Gacy, who's a who's a serial killer in the 1970s in America, you look he was sexually abused when he was young. When he grew up, he used to homosexuals abused men. And there are many different cases. Okay, men, some of these have hatred towards women. Why do they do that? What happens to a person when they're young and they've been abused sexually? Why do they move to this? There are many scientific journals to discuss this. But
the ultimate question is, what is how it happens. And I was saying to you that in our early resources, of Islamic resources, we do have clearly
written that these tendencies can creep into human beings. Even if you're not in the setting, you could just you could just have a feeling that you might want to fulfill it with the same it could happen. And recently, I contacted someone who was in a kind of a Muslim sort of helpline, and he said he worked there for four years, and he had people this is in this country in the UK, a Muslim sort of helpline, who worked there for four years taking calls from Muslims. And his stats are that up to 21% of youth can become confused about what they are, whether they're heterosexual, whether they're a homosexual, now we've got an allergy or what have you got, we've gotten a literature that
when you're when you're as a normal Muslim, you're in a society, you should do your best, and not to be surrounded or be always looking at young, cute little boys. It's in our literature, not because you are a homosexual, or you're a pedophile. But you could develop the tendency or the inclination to like those individuals, you could develop that.
So a harmonious relationship, a harmony sort of society is that you have men and women around and not just to make it exclusively men or exclusively women. That's why the boarding the army, the prison,
When they make it exclusive to males or females, the tendency start to become more. And this thing that said very specifically which is that even you know, not because they were wrong for people, please don't get me wrong. They just out of the taqwa out of the good taqwa and trying to make sure that they don't ever even get an iota of this in the heart. They wouldn't necessarily look at young boys until they grew up and they had a beard.
So a famous one is Abu hanifa Rahim Allah, Allah Mohammed.
They used to call him profane Why are you the column profane? Because Imam Abu hanifa when he saw him and Muhammad come first time, these are the some of the greatest imams of this whole oma. When he saw Mr. Mohammed first come to learn from him. Remember Abu hanifa said, he said, Good you come to learn from me said you always sit on my side here, which is a blind spot. always sit on my side. He made him sit there because my Mohammed, young boy without a beard, sit there, and when Mohammed would discuss with everybody else, and one day when accident Lima hanifa turned around this side, and he actually saw even Mohammed and he had grown a beard. He said, okay, from now on. Muhammad,
you can come and sit in front of me. And we've got that in our tradition. And the books say that, you know, we've young boys and so on, okay, fine, you're with them and so on, but not to make it a habit to be not that no one ever had anything in his mind, please. Now, I'm not saying that. But this out of the super taqwa because it was the same Imam like once email, Abu hanifa found out that a goat has been stolen.
So he stopped eating goats meat for 12 years. You know why? Less that one goat who's got which has got stolen in his town ends up in his plate. Because he went and asked the shepherd. He said, How long can the maximum age of what's the maximum age of a goat and he said 12 years. He said, okay, for 12 years, I'm not going to have gold to me. That's how much taqwa he had. So it's not that I'm saying Rahmani r Rahim, Allah had anything inside his mind. I only believe that I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that they have super taqwa, they would stay away from these things. So what we've got in our literature is that you could have tendencies now. The medical journals, you know what
they say? They say exactly the same thing. They say that kids when they're growing up, at some point, imagine a you know what, if we got together, it's like, it's in the mind, but it's got, it's like, it's still I just thought, now some of these kids, what happens is that they don't have anyone to talk to about this, all you need is you need the right advice, you need the right therapy for you to stay as a heterosexual because you've been born a hetero, heterosexual. So all you need is a bit of talking that look, you know, we don't do this, and so on, don't be inclined towards that you should be inclined towards a girl or woman and give them a surrender, just because a person has some
kind of thoughts towards that doesn't mean that he's going to move towards that. The next thing is, are they sort of grounding these beliefs as a second stage is to start to ground these beliefs. And then the next thing is, when they come to the age of puberty,
you know, like, boys, boys would love to have like, a girlfriend or someone on girlfriends would love to have a boyfriend. But there are some who just aren't lucky, you know, they want to have anyone interested in them. So then the belief comes in such some of them that you know, what, I haven't made it with these girls, and so on. So I must be someone who's, you know, they shy away. And you know what this person on the Muslim helpline told me the same thing, that this is the case, because there's no one there to talk to them, and they feel kind of you know, what, maybe they're not interested in me for some other reason.
And they start to become more and more, sort of
more and more of an introvert, inclusive, you know, not talking to anyone about it, internalizing the feelings and so on. And then what happens after that is, when a few years go Bye, bye like that, they start to believe that you know what, they're abnormal, they believe they're abnormal, they believe that they're different from the rest of the boys around them. And if that carries on happening, what the next stage is, that they will meet someone who has the same life story as them. And that's it, that will then move to something becoming an active homosexual.
And if they actually become active, if they become active, how active they are, depends how far they will go, because the people have neutralizer of Salam. They got so far down, that he was he was telling them that you know, you reach this stage, that you are shunning women out of disgust or out of not being even bothered about them. You know, one thing is, one thing is that you leave something because you just left it Another one is you leave it because you just not bothered about it. You just can't you leave it and you won't even think about it. So the word in the Quran used is whether I ever
Now taraka truco means to leave something, but whether or means to leave it to abandon it, but to abandon it with not even having a consent towards it. So when Allah azzawajal said to Rasulullah sallallahu to leave certain people, he said, whether he levena Shahabuddin, ambu Allah, He said completely abandoned these people who have taken the religion to be a mockery, and don't even be bothered about it. That's what that means leave. Now when Buddha Allah Islam in the Quran, he says he first addresses them. This is Surah, number 26. And number 165, he says at the tune of the Koran, I mean, minella al Ameen. sarara all of the creation of the world, you are the ones who are not who
are approaching men
mean that you're approaching your own kind. So he's if you take that transition that I've done, which means that of all the creations Allah created, you're the first one who starts to start homosexuality. But if you take it in different meaning, it would mean that out of all the things that Allah created for you from all the creation, you are a species that have turned to their own for sexual intercourse. And then he adds on in the next verse, he says, what are the rule nama holla Paula Kumara boomin as Raja COMM And you are abandoning in a way that you not even concerned about not even thinking about the women, Allah has created for your pairs Allah has created for you
or your Lord has created and then it says Bell and to Omaha the new have surpassed what Allah has ordained for you. Now, what this is shows is that homosexuality becoming active gets to as latest stage that they completely lose interest in women and they won't even be bothered about it. And that's the worst stage what happens is they will develop tenders inside them to start believing something Allah hasn't created them for and allows what we believe is that he plans certain things in people because they have gone in the wrong direction.
He will plant like for example, a clear example is when when people go towards sin and they repeatedly go towards sin, then Allah actually opens the doorways for sin for them. And he takes them all that because that's only when they're persistently ignored ignored Allah signs. So very easy example for this is the people of the of the Sabbath discussing the Quran. And Allah azza wa jal said to them don't fish on a Saturday. These are Jewish people who said to them don't fish on a Saturday, I've given you Saturday for a rest. So you can fish for six days a week but just don't don't fish on a Saturday because the Sabbath is the rest day and you want to check this out story
Go to Surah number seven and number 163 onwards you will find all of this and very very short summary of this is that they started to make certain schemes to try and fish on a Saturday without actually fishing on a Saturday so what did they do? They put nets out on a Friday night and they took them out on a Sunday morning
though, as if God didn't know what you just did, they put nets out right catching fish from Friday night all day Saturday 24 hours and then Sunday morning comes they caught the cat they get the netiquette oh that happens do some fish Yeah. Ah as if God never saw that. So they did also schemes try and catch them and then Indian what Allah Allah said no crab in those verses that you check it out. Surah Allah said I made all the fish on Saturday.
So then Sunday you know what is hardly any fish Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday fishermen are gigantic fish Friday comes hard in the fish Saturday they're all in the water looking at them hey catch me buddy. Hey, catch me buddy.
So Allah increase the amount of you know the the tests that are getting increased and that's what he will do. He is repeatedly show that you persistently again and again go against Allah's command, not once, twice, three times on Sydney, and then you make yourself believe that you're in the right, because that's what they did. They said we have the right to do that. They even said to loot Li Salam. Look what they say to him, I number 167 of su 26. They said, if you don't stop, oh, Luke telling us about this, then we will kick you out, we will we will exile you from the city. And that is where we really have have got a problem with these people which is that they really look at us
the heterosexuals as people who are in their own, you know, we should give them the full right to be who they are, you know, without actually even giving them a good advice. They don't want to even hear this good advice that I'm giving because it hurts them. And you know that interesting that that person in the Muslim helpline told me he said after about a couple of years he when he used to answer the calls first. They used to tell him that you know what, we've got this tendency that cleanses and so on. But after a couple of years they start to fold in again. They say you know what? They say that they fold
with remorse, they fall in with guilt. And they start saying that you know, I've been doing this and so on but
I'm not feeling well. I'm not feeling good inside because you know what they're doing that going not only against what our last put as a fit right inside them that going these Muslims who are trying to be Muslim homosexuals, they're going against the Quranic command and they're they're
what's called now evidence is this part of the Quran a wrong type of evidence? I number 166 surah number 26 when Lu tala ashram he addressed them he said you know you are shunning these women you're you're you're leaving them without even having concern about them he said well and to Pomona dude Europe people who are going you know you become excessive you've gone beyond the extremes of beyond the boundaries of God you know what these these Muslim so called Muslim homosexuals are saying this saying well the people of Nutella Salaam they were raping one another and that's why it that's why he was telling him not to do that as if Nutella Salaam was saying hey guys, carry on doing what
you're doing. But you know, don't rape each other.
are you use? hear what he said? How can they even under sumantra there are Muslims who have written books on this that tried to find the legitimacy of homosexuality in Islam and they using this verse. What this verse means is that you've gone beyond the boundaries of Allah, that's what it means. It doesn't mean that you are raping them. Now if you look at the verse, he says, you know, Allah has created for you Your opposites
and you are going beyond the boundaries What does that mean? Well when you go your opposite is trying to say that go on have sexual intercourse through marriage with women, not with men that's what he's saying you're going beyond the limits and the trying to use this as an evidence now the black metallic but what what happens is they get remorse, they get guilt, and that's why they will have tendencies of being suicidal within themselves. Now.
What I want to say to you is that
loot Allah salam, he said in it, number 168, of suta 26. He said, immediately, Imani Camino College, he said, I will stay away from and hate your action.
Now listen to this. He didn't say I will stay away and hate you know, he said in nearly I'm alikoum. You know, when they said to him, we're gonna throw you out of the city. He replied by saying that I hate and I will stay away from completely shut myself of what your actions. So what does this tell us? This tells us that we should not hate these people.
We should hate the action
which God has fled, you know, his his forbade the action. And that's what is reprehensible? That's what is disgusting, but not the people. Now it's going to be hard for some Muslims to hear this and digest. It's kind of hard for some humans to hear this and digestible. Let me give you another scenario.
Allah has told us Xena is haram yes or no guys? Yes. So Xena with a woman so a man and a woman who want to commit adultery or fornication. Allah has said this is haraam. Son, this is completely hands on. So this is something that will leave them to jahannam if they if they if you are doesn't forgive them, if God doesn't forgive them will lead them to help to help.
So just as you mean, you know that there are so many people out there who are who as Muslims, they're committing adultery, fornication, and we don't, we don't necessarily hate them as individuals. What we're supposed to do, we hate the act. We hate the Haram act, but we don't hate them as individuals. And this is what prophets actually teach us is that you've got to differentiate between the person and the sin. So the same thing with homosexuals, some people have a tendency of disgusting homosexuals. Now, for example, you might get now you've got certain homosexuals that will turn up to muskets, they'll come to the masjid. And what they're trying to do, which is their
nature, which is very bad, which is they're trying to make exclusive machines to homosexuals.
This is started in Canada. It started in the UK. There are most in the UK. I don't know if you're aware of it, or in Canada, you're aware of it. But they've got exclusive machines for homosexuals. Now, you might think now's the villa. How can that happen? Well, they're doing it.
They're doing it
and it's and they're doing it secretly, and soon they'll do it openly and people will know about this openly. Now
What What should we do? Well, this is where we draw the line.
We do not stop any homosexual justice. We don't stop any person committing adultery with a woman. We don't stop that man coming to the masjid. We don't stop a Muslim homosexual from coming to the masjid. But what do we do? This is our belief. And I'm going to put it into black and white concrete crystal crystal belief. If a Muslim person believes that adultery is haram, listen to this carefully because the point of our arcade our creed, and this is what the Allison ojama this is what we as the people who believe by what the Sahaba believed unanimously, this is our concrete belief. If you want to be a traditional Muslim, going with the companions of the Prophet of Lausanne with rasulillah
salam, wherever they go on the Day of Judgment, then you believe in this creed. If you believe in something else, then you go wherever you want to go, but this is you know, we're heading inshallah with the Sahaba and Rasulullah sallallahu.
So, what is that belief? If a Muslim believes that
adultery is harm,
though he is committing adultery,
they are committing adultery, but they believe you know what, it's Haram is bad, I'm doing something wrong. Or she is doing that she's committing adultery, she's bad, it's wrong. But I can't help you. And I'm just doing it. I'm just loving too much. And they're doing it. Right. If it happens, they're not those people. They are faceting. They are rebellious, sinful people. But nonetheless, they are Muslims. we regard them as Muslims, has ever understood that they are sinful, they're committing a grave sin, that if God doesn't forgive them for this scene, they will end up in gentlemen how far we know that and we believe in that and if God forgives them, it's not to do with me and you to try and
you know, judge them in this world. Right. But let's look at the other side. If a Muslim believes that Zina is not haram for him,
they believe that you know, the committing Zina or they might not be committing but they believe you know what it is, it's not Haram, it's okay to committed.
They knew relationship and the thing, you know, what I saw for me, God can lie for me. Because, you know, whatever excuse I've got, I couldn't do my nikka
didn't find two witnesses, couldn't afford it, whatever. My dad wouldn't accept it. Because you know, she's not a Pakistani, like me, or somebody like me, or Egyptian like me, or whatever it is, okay. She, she, she's not from the same place as mean in back home, whatever, whatever reason is, and they believe, for whatever reason, they believe that Xena has become halaal for them, then we, as the Allison algebra as the people who hold the belief of the Sahaba and Rasulullah sallallahu. We believe such a person has now left the fold of Islam, because they have made halaal what is haram? They have allowed what is prohibited in Islam. Now this thing, this creed is applied to
heterosexuals, and homosexuals. You listen. So the same thing so if a homosexual has is active, and they believe it's Haram, what they're doing is haram,
then we believe that he is he's committing a grave sin, we believe that he is, or she is if she's a lesbian. She is someone who's been, you know, who's doing something really bad that if God doesn't forgive them, then they'll end up in Ghana, but we still regard them as Muslims, but sinful Muslims. But if they believe that that homosexual act becomes halaal, for them, as Muslims, we as a hallucinogen, do not regard them as Muslims, again, they have just gone out of the fold of Islam.
Okay, so that's very clear cut black and white crystal, lakita and creed I've given to you and we, as Muslims have the right to hold this, as I believed, until the day of judgment. That's our belief. Now we again, we're not talking about the context outside, they're outside of religion, as I've said to you from the beginning of the of the lecture without going outside of what our own beliefs are. If there are people outside there who do these things, and so on, then that's them, and they will answer for that we only going to give them goodness he had good advice like Lutheranism. Good, gave good advice. So I'm going to ask you, are there any questions before we
sort of conclude for today? Yes.
You have denied Thank you.
Thank you. So the brother has pointed out rightly so does it
There's about three different durations for this, that man atom merata whosoever comes to his wife, do buuren from behind her he has anal intercourse with her
anal sex with her father Kaffir aubema Allah Mohammed and Salah Larsson, then that person has denied whatever has been revealed on to masala meaning that same thing with al Qaeda, which is if he thought he was halal for him that is out of the fall of Islam, but if he did it, but he thought no is bad, I'm doing this but he's just doing it, then he's sinful, but he's not out of the fall of Islam. And yes, the brother is right that there are those durations so and there's another generation, which is if two men get resources must has warned us of two men getting under one blanket. He's even told us to men getting under one blanket has told us not to do that.
Okay, so that is also clear. Any other quick questions before we finish?
Okay, shala will have inshallah next week. I'll see you with the third part of Ruth Elisa, Zama, Hiawatha, Dhawan and Hamlet.