Advice to Students of Deen

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Hey,

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splatter Han Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam Allah say they don't have you know Muhammad Ali.

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So this this is for people who are doing the alim course,

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or doing studies towards

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the bottom I call, you know, a mother sub program of six years or seven years.

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And in general unless you have So first and foremost,

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the first couple of years, or the first two, three years are the most important years, they are the most important years.

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And why they're so important is because they are the foundation. And whenever you have a building, you have a, you know, they dig quite deep depending on how many how many stories you want to build upon it. So if you want to build a four storey building, you've got to have a foundation for a four storey building, if you don't have a two storey building, you have a less of a foundation, if you want to have six storey building Africa have a deeper Foundation, and then totally your building, the deeper your foundations have to become, and the stronger your foundations have to become. That's obvious. Now, guys, who are, you know, women who are going out there girls who are going out there

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doing studies for an alien cause and Allah makos have to understand that you're building a six year Foundation, six years of study, of course,

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or you're going to have, you know, four years of intensive study course coming on later on. For that you need the first couple of years, you have to be really solid, and this is your foundation, it's got to be absolutely solid.

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What we're finding is and I'm going to just speak, speak out, you know, something that I really feel is necessary for me to say is that

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when we are studying any studies, we're talking about university studies or college studies, it's not a simple, you know, process of just doing a four year course for a BA, or you know, a four year course or three year course to finish a BA it's not that that ba course that you're doing normally is dependent upon a college studies that you did for two years, we all know that you don't get into university without the college studies. But those college studies that you just did, you can't just pop out from anywhere and just get into college you have to have you know, a good 10 years of education or something at least a good substantial education before you get into college, we know

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that and depending on how well your early years were with your SATs and with the way that you were before you GCSEs and so on will all entail towards a good college. So if you've got your foundation really good before you know before you GCSE is if your English is good, if your math is good, or something else is really good, then and then it turns into a good college and that in turn turns into good university and we know that's how it works. You can't see the college and university as something that is isolated without any other studies. Now if you take it all together so you had a law you're studying like

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you're studying like 18 years

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you think about it 11 years of school then you might have two years of college 13 years and you got a three year degree that's 16 years then you got another one year Master's something that 17 years and you protocol now the practice you are a PGC whatever is another whole year is almost 1718 years of study. And yes we're not saying it's it's taking all your time but it does take a lot of time to do these studies. Now when you come to the ultimate course so Adam calls are you doing an hour because whatever it is, guys, let's be honest with you, you need some serious time with this. You can't just come in willy nilly and just do a few things bits and bobs here and then try and get a

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massive degree at the end of the you know the the Allium course of being someone who studied Hades, someone who studied to see someone who's claiming that they've gone through the entire Quran in this meaning they've gone through the entire Quran in its in its suburban mazola His revelation they've got an entire Quran in terms of his context of the whole Quran in terms of his exegesis that learnt the whole Quran in terms of every ayah with every reference and why it was revealed where it was revealed and how it's supposed to be understood. Every single ayah in connection with the prophets of Allah has been the seed of the province of alarmism, every single if there's any Hadith has

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connected us because you've studied the Hadith. And then you come to Hadith. You've gone through the six books of Hadith. You've gone through more time and Malik's collection. You've gone through some other collection of Hadith that you've understood the Hadith the context of the Hadith is

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The background of the Hadith, we know why they will reveal why they were stated by the prophet sallallahu wasallam, and their connection to the Quran, their connection to the seal of the prophets of blossom, then you then you, you've also done Islamic law. So you understand the do's and don'ts of how you're supposed to be as a Muslim, but that's all connected to the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Allah, you understand all of it in Arabic, all of it from its actual sources, you know, we're not talking about translations here. We're not talking about other stuff, we're talking about real stuff straight from the Arabic You know, how it works. And then the formation of those laws are

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those are those,

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you know, do's and don'ts, that's also fair to actually understand the full formation in Arabic, how it works, the debates of the scholars, the discussions they had the difference of opinion they had, who had what opinion, why did they have that opinion, for you to be well informed of that. And then you had to understand why I had it becomes weak or strong, and so on. That's also how these you've got, you've done that in Arabic, too. And then in Arabic, for you to get all of that you know, what you need, you need a solid couple of years, two to three years of Arabic studies. And that's why I'm saying the first two or three years is really important. I know what's really important of the fact

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that you're trying to get this foundation solid, is that you need to give it full time.

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Just as you gave full time to all your other education, or being nation, you know, your for your degree and for your college. Just like you just turn up to a college and you're you know, in college, what do you do, you know, you're not in college and trying to struggle struggle with reading the text. There is no college or university student that comes to college in university and looks at a text and struggles to read the text.

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That's impossible. So what we're saying is that when you get to that stage of fear of Hades of the seed of Quran of exegesis of, you know, sulfate, or Sunil Hadid and classical Arabic, all the all those texts, you've got to have your Arabic as solid as possible. And there's two things in that one is naho, which is the grammar on itself, which is the morphology and combining them together, you've got to have you've got to have the ability to understand how to use which one and and the deeper you go in those and the more accurate you are in, in working out working it out, the better you will be in this latest studies. Imagine a person who comes into the alum course. And who hasn't necessarily

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done the the the sort of imagine a person comes to the college. And and they don't know much English, you know, they're struggling to read the text, what are they going to understand of a law book? What will they understand of an economic book? What will they understand about global, you know, economics or what will they understand about politics? If they're doing something on political history or something? What will they actually understand they will have a struggle in trying to work out the words, forget the meanings. They'll grasp some meanings here and there, but they won't be as solid as you would want them to be. There won't become no political scientist after that. No way.

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You won't you won't regard them as that. I mean, they might, I mean, what has happened, and I'm going to be straight with you is

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over the years, I mean, we had we had this sort of Allium call so this this whole

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this whole thing started and we call it Allium calls in the Arab world, they don't call it alum calls, they just see it, as you know, studies of Arabic studies of Islamia or you know, some some Islamic studies or fixed studies or whatever, so they don't call your album cause but we call it an album call. So let's let's make that clear. But what actually happened in

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India was that what what what the scholars did in early India is that they saw that one place had become the the place for a hub of na one south of grammar and morphology, another one became fake, another one became for Hadith. And they wanted to combine all of it together. And they wanted to make one madrasah one place where you get everything under one roof. And that's where the formation of the obon actually came. That's that's how we came together. But on top of that, it wasn't about the text and understanding everything I've set up so far it was all that but on top of that was the fact that you have to mold yourself to the text that you're studying. So your work and your

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character has to move towards that, you know, it's a whole Silsila it's a chain from the province of alcoholism. So just as it was to lasala Harrison his that his whole personality was the Quran and the Quran was the process of lust meaning that if you read the Quran, you saw the process of blossom

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If you saw the Quran, you just read the if you saw the prophecy the last time you read the Quran, kind of Hulu Al Quran, his character was the Quran meaning that there was no clash with the text of the Quran, and the personality of the province of last life. They were 100% in harmony with one another, and the Sahaba de la COVID-19. When they took the text from the province, lots of them have the Quran and the Sunnah, they had to take the personality with it. So they they molded themselves according to that. And that's how generation to generation the real scholars carried on. So when they when formed, what they what they wanted to do, and they achieved it in the first generation of

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Dobin very much so, and quite attuned to a good extent in the second generation of children is that they they had that molded reality with the text so many of them didn't have a clash with the text and the personality life, the personal life. And this is what it was it was like you change your life. This This program is supposed to change your life. You're supposed to become a person who's molded the Quran and Sunnah into your life. We're not saying it's easy, and we're not saying you have to get it all right by the end of the course. But what we are saying is that when you graduate as an alum you you've got to have this endeavor, and this this this whole lifetime, you know, like

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the struggle even from your early days of trying to study as an alum, or an alumna. You've got to try and make your personality in accordance to the Quran and the Sunnah. So there was a whole molded program together to try and make the personality come up. What happened after that, is that okay, fine. My dad is open all across India, they opened in Pakistan, when the form they opened in Bangladesh, when that form they opened in countries across the world, they came to the UK,

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as early as the 70s. mothers who started the loom started in the UK. And now we've got several doll rooms, and now we've got them in Canada and in America, and you've got them. You know, in South Africa, you've got them all over Africa, and you've got them over many countries, and now the new thing has become, and then not before and in the 1780s 90s as well. If you went to a madrasa to Adele alone, you have to study full time, we're talking about a six or seven years full time, the way you dedicate your 24 hours or your 16 hours or your 10 hours a day, whatever it was your towards your college and university full time. That's how they had their dedication towards the the studies

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of the alum, Alameda sort, of course, or alum program or the or the Dobson environment, that that's how they had the attention towards it. So you were in a boarding school, you did no other studies, you just concentrated on the on these studies all the way clock all around the clock for six to seven years. And then you graduated. And most of the early guys that graduated they went to college in university afterwards. So what they didn't do is they didn't really mix the two things together. Now, I'm not saying it's wrong to mix the two things together as in trying to get some college college studies done and university studies done as well. As you know, I'm not saying this is wrong.

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But I'm going to say to try and get two full time studies done at one time is not everybody's game. It's not everybody's in a bowl game.

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And it is better to stick to one full because full is full. You can't you're saying to me, I mean, look at people who do double shifts have two actual jobs, see, see what happens to them, they burn themselves out so quickly. And sometimes they can't give dedication to one job as they give it to another job. But then then what happened is that this whole thing turned into part time now you've got like part time alum courses, which is a new thing, you know, this, this thing is a new phase that we're going through. And again, guys, I'm not out there to do this part a man calls and says anything like that, all I'm here to say is that

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the studies have to be as deep as they were before and then you get the caliber of those people otherwise, we're going to see an age of people coming out and claiming to be an alum and a scholar and an Imam and so on, where they really haven't dedicated that time. And therefore, they don't have the same set of skills as the graduates of the 80s. The graduates of the 90s that some of the graduates in the zeros who came out these are the notice that came out these

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modalities who had done full time six to seven years studies and the depth they acquired and they and when you see those people and you spend time with them, they knew their stuff, then they knew that their stuff in in a good you know, we're talking about people who did not have any problem with reading the text of Arabic without any skill or without any Fatah casilla without any of that didn't have

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problem and they could read quite deep sort of texts. And look, I'm not here to say that all other systems are failing, if you're doing it part time. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is that there's a huge question mark about how we go about doing these studies on a part time basis, whether we are actually using the rest of our time to gain that depth. And one thing that that looms over us is,

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are we doing all of this, as in you've, you've got a place and you're trying to, you know, okay, we're all trying to achieve and make people learn the deen. But are we, in the name of trying to make on the effort of trying to make several scholars? Are we actually doing the right thing? By creating small, small segments of this whole course, because what's happened is that this six seven year course has been reduced in some places to five years to four years. And now you've got part time being done over four years.

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And you can't, you can't, you know, there's no way you can sort of say that doing something six to seven years full time is the equivalent of doing something half the time of those six to seven years. You can't say that the two are going to be saying once they graduate. But anyway, that's one side of it. Even if some of them are good in terms of their studies, which is fine, that there can be some people that will billion people out there, who will go for a part time alum course and it'll come out, you know, good. But then the question then comes is, where are we moving to because certain courses out there have now become virtual. So now we're moving on to Allium courses on to a

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screen, and you behind a screen. And you're doing this through Skype and other things. And again, I'm not saying that you cannot create good individuals out there, or that it doesn't work. All I'm saying is that when you lose the human to human relationship of a real teacher to a real student, then you cannot get the same qualities that you had yesterday, when they were actually human to human front of another because you mold your life according to the real people that you spend time with, not with a screen. And it's difficult to mold your life according to a person you see or the face only on screen. But you don't actually spend time with them in the Saba and in the in the

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companionship. And what we what we are seeing is, if we are losing people who have really molded themselves according to tradition, and we losing those people are we losing time spending with those people,

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is very difficult for us to mold ourselves according to those people. And if we carry on becoming people who, who are people of just text, and not people of personality, and who have molded themselves according to the text, then we're in a serious dilemma. And what the reverse to all of this is, I'm asking people who are listening to this, that put your real head to your studies, you know, like, make foundations deep, spend your proper time even if you have a part time course, you've seriously got to put extra hours into your studies to make sure that you're you're completing a lot of texts, and deep texts, and that you are fulfilling the gaps that you probably have got, and

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that you're really confident in in the studies of this course and that you are going to become a person who is looking towards changing your whole mode of life according to the text. So it's not like the text gives you a lot of you know, hype because you know, you've covered all these books after books and you can understand this you can understand that it's not that but you actually got a real motivation for the Acura for the life of the Acura and and that you know your spirituality is actually there with the with because the whole text is all turning towards what the all the text of the entire articles all of the points to what it points to the Quran.

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You learn Arabic because you want to get access to learn the Quran, you learn fake, or Islamic law, because you want to learn the Quran you learn a hadith because Hadith is an explanation of what the Quran is saying. And it's an it's a secondary to the Quran. And what is the Quran point to the Quran points to Allah. So all of its really going back to Allah. So we're supposed to have learned all of this to make ourselves people who are the people on the earth who represent the book of Allah. And if you do that, that Alhamdulillah you know, whatever course you got me Allah azza wa jal, he Baraka in that is not about completing books, it's not about competing pages. It's not about competing

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yours and exams is not about that. The whole thing is supposed to be about creating individuals who are true representatives of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam in terms of the understanding of that real text, and in terms of them representing those texts, with the actual behavior and their traits me allows me to feel familiar

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Lazarus give, you know all of you listeners etouffee to achieve this. And again, what I've said here is not because I'm, I'm having a go at at certain modalities, or certain systems, all I'm saying is that we need to make sure that we're not losing the quality and the depth that that that was originally there. And we shouldn't get into ourselves into a mode of just trying to complete figures and numbers and, you know, places and you know,

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the courses are finished and the books are finished, yada, it's not about that is a serious thing is that? are we creating individuals that really are going to make a difference to the community? Because that's the next real thing. Once you have an album or an album coming out? What do they do?

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How do they come into the community? What do they do for the community? What do they do for people?

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Do they actually connect people to Allah? Are they actually going out there and actually, doesn't matter? Even if they're not giving lectures or whatever, doesn't matter. But wherever they're going, whoever the meeting, are, they're actually connecting people to Allah. And if they are Al Hamdulillah, you know, your blessing? Are they able to, to give true, you know, available to first know, from the Arabic sources? What is actually saying, and they've got a good understanding? Are they able to communicate that properly to the masses? If it is yes, and as a result, are they able to get people to understand the text properly, and people to start moving towards the right

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direction? Probably, if yes, and hamdulillah hamdulillah Allah, Allah azza wa jal bless all those people who are studying and Allah give his Baraka, in all our modalities, and all the places that we were doing this and milazzo gel, give us Tofig to make the system better and better. And if you're thinking that you want to do both, because, you know, one of the things that I should say, before I finish, actually is that, you know, we do need the other side to this. So okay, my dad, his studies is good. We need people who have good English, we need people who are confident, we need people who can, who can go come out of these alum courses, and go and some of us go and talk to the media, some

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of us, you know, write good articles, some of us challenge the, the threats that we've got out there, some of us are able to stand up and talk to counselors, you know, in a meaningful way that we get the objectives of Islam moving forward. And for the Muslims in the Muslim community, you know, while we stay in harmonious relationship with the wider society, some of us need to go out there and be able to speak in to the parliament and be able to, you know, represent other people, some of us need to be able to, you know, keep in good contact with other leaders of the community, with church leaders, with synagogue leaders with community leaders. And we need to make sure that policies and

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procedures and government rules and so on, is actually, you know, helping, and they're going to shape the way things are. So that is beneficial to not only the Muslim, but the wider society, we need people to be able to converse in the right way for all of this. But if we've got people who are simply saying that we're going to read the Arabic text, and that's it, we're just going to get into another building, we're going to make another mother. So we're just going to create people who just will understand this again, and will not do much for the wider society. And for the wider masses, who are the 99% of the population out there. If we're not going to do anything for them, then we're

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failing ourselves. So some of us need to, you know, come out and meet to go out, then we make these changes for the masses. And if you're not making those changes for the masses, if you're not producing people who can actually make a difference to our communities, and for the Muslims out there, then we failing ourselves. And I'm not saying the whole system is a failure. No, but I'm saying that look, yes, we need the colleges, we need to get these guys to have, you know, the mothers or grads to have good English to be confident what they're saying, to understand systems out there to be able to know what citizenship is and how everything works, they should at least know all

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of that, even if they're not going to do something they should know what to do. Because as an alum, as as, as a community representative and as an Imam, you need to be able to have that inside you and to be able to reconcile between people properly. You know, it's not like, okay, you know, I can just talk but to, to be able to do counseling, and so on for people. If we've got some of these skills, are we creating seven people like this? for the masses and Alhamdulillah? That's brilliant. But if we're not, then there's a question, what are we doing with these buildings and modalities? Because Because and what are these children supposed to do if they just become mothers or grads? And they've

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got no, I mean, I'm not saying you're a failure. If you don't have a college degree or college, a level and a university degree behind your back. I'm not saying you're a failure. That's not what I mean. But I'm saying that it is a bonus to have that with no on your background. But having said that, I think it is difficult to mix the two things together at the same time so you dedicate yourself properly to one another

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Then you dedicate yourself fully to another one which is good. If you don't have the time and you are going to start mixing together, then please make sure that you take it full on and that you are doing the best for the boat for both of them and that you're confident in both areas and then you become people who are real representatives of the communities. And through that, what we actually seek for is we seek for

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not only the Arkadin Allah azza wa jal, but we seek for a good change on the ground here and that all happens when people actually put effort whatever thing we put good effort into it will it will be it will inshallah pay off when he demands right now in this generation is coming up. And for the next generation, we need confident scholars, Eman speaking good English, you understand the young generation who are able to guide them and who are in touch with the older generation. So you don't lose any of the two, we need to be able to convince you both and there are there are fantastic, you know, people who come out these modalities and metalizer bless them and bring more out but we need

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to make sure that the system doesn't get weak for so the question is, what kind of tips can I give to go through when you're going through the last two years of the Allium sort, of course.

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This thing is that the last two years are the probably the most heavy in terms of content, you got massive books to go through in just those years. And most of the time, you just sitting there just just running through the texts. So it happens quite a lot that you're going through these texts, and you're finding that you're not able to give your full attention to everything sometimes and is best if you sort of start noting down, like when you come across Hadeeth in the last two years, have those sticker tags are something that you can play straightaway or some pen marks or something like that, where you find hobbies that you're going to use for certain words, articles, bands, lectures,

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anything else that you're going to do. Or for further reflection, make notes like that throughout the last two years. places that you have to come back and study paperwork that you probably never understood or something that you can ask later on to teachers to have these kind of tips or candies kind of

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sort of marks that you make inside your books is a good thing. And while you're doing that, the best is um, you're not going to be able to read every commentary that is out there on Hadith, that's definite but what you can do is to take one text and to take a good commentary in Arabic of that text and find you know, read that if you can do that then Bismillah al hamdu even one of it one good country on one of the hottest books like Buhari multimedia something is going to be very good for you to have a comprehensive overlook on that. If not, I mean stick it to your to whatever you teach the saying inside the actual lessons itself, try and absorb it as much as you can from there and

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trying to increase your you know, some form of drugs or practices of the sooner in the last couple of years if you haven't done so, and to try and make yourself feel that you know, I need to go on a pathway now I've tried to slowly slowly adopt these ahaadeeth in my life, it takes a lifetime to try and get these ahaadeeth and the Quranic sort of verses molded into one's life so you know it is a good time to reflect and to think well how am I going to do that but still step by step slowly by slowly sooner by sooner inshallah start from the last two years and inshallah you know afterwards carry on carry on going back to those books and you know, reading over them again trying to get get

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them into the into one's life. But most importantly, in the last two years after the last two years, your teachers you need to keep a good relationship with them, especially those who have molded themselves according to the text. You need to spend good software good company with them so that you can see and feel and slowly, you know, adapt to their way of life in Sharla