Why I Rejected the Trinity and Accepted Tawhid

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Why I rejected the Trinity and accepted Tawhid

1 Say, “He is God, One; God, The Eternal, The Sustainer. He neither begets, nor was born. And there is nothing comparable to Him.” [Quran 112]

2 Similarities between the Bible and the Quran.

  • “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Deuteronomy 6:4]
  • “... Jesus (says), ‘…Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.’ “ [Mark 12:29]
  • “You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, …” [Exodus 20:3-5]
  • “… You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,..” [John 5:37]
  • “… God, the Blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal … and who is unseen and cannot be seen… “ [1 Timothy 6:16]

3 Definition/meaning of Trinity

  • One God with three personalities (Father, son and holy ghost) i.e. co-equal, co-eternal, omnipresent, all-powerful, all-knowing
  • Regarding omnipresence – “As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me (Jesus), a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God, Abraham did not do such things.” [John 8:40]
  • Regarding All-Knowing – “But about that day or hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but only the Father.” [Matthew 24:36]
  • Regarding All-Powerful – “By myself (Jesus) I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgement is just, for I seek not to please myself but Him who sent me.” [John 5:30]
  • Jesus testifies many times that miracles are testimony to God’s power, not his own, as did all the prophets before similarly testify in the Bible.
  • “… it is by the Spirit of God that i drive out demons, …” [Matthew 12:28] “But if drive out demons by the finger of God,…” [Luke 11:20]

4 Is there historic precedence for the Trinity in the first 300 years after Christ

  • Council of Nicaea – Constantine
  • Pagan Mithraism commonalities with Christianity
  • Church Father (scholar) Tertullian tries to defend Christianity’s similarities to Mithraism
  • Inclusion of Holy Spirit at First Council of Constantinople AD 381

5 In his words, is Jesus God?

  • “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” [John 17:3]

6 ‘Ho theos’ not ‘ton theon’ [John 1:1] [John 1:18] [John 20:28] [2 Corinthians 4:4]

7 Conclusion

Episode Transcript

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Billahi min ash shaytani r rajim Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem Peace, blessings and mercy upon you all. Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

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I would like to share something with you guys today that is very much a cornerstone to my reversion story as to why I decided to accept the concept of the Almighty Creator defined within the Holy Quran, the star read and reject the concept of the Trinity. Now in the Holy Quran in chapter 112, was one to four, the Almighty creators, the finest the following, say he is the one and only the absolute and eternal, he begets not noisy gods and there's nothing like him. Now what this concept means is that there's only one true Almighty Creator, and that there is nothing beside him inequality. What this also means is that this creator is not be gotten by something, nor does he get

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create something like unto himself, and that everything that we perceive in this life cannot be this creator, for there's nothing like onto him, that is unseen. Now, through my comparative study in the Torah, and the Gospels and the Holy Quran, I found that there are a lot of similarities regarding the Creator. To give you an example, in the book of Deuteronomy, chapter six was for Moses peace be upon him says to his followers, and he says that your Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one, Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon him also confirms as to which came before him, and which came after him in the book of Mark chapter 12, verse 29, where it says that you're Israel, the Lord

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our God, the Lord is one, even to the very concept that this God is unseen, and there is nothing like unto him, echoed in the book of Exodus chapter 20, verse three to five, as it is said that nothing of the heavens above the earth beneath all the water neath the Earth would ever resemble this God. And we were not allowed to make any images of this God likened to it to anything that we perceive. The same message is also in the gospels in the book of john chapter five, verse 37, where Jesus peace be upon him says while standing in front of his followers, the Pharisees and his disciples, and he says that you have never heard the voice of God, neither Have you ever seen his

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shape. The same message is also in the book of Timothy in one Timothy chapter six, verse 16, where it says that God is immortal, and that nobody's ever seen that you cannot see this God. So having discovered the similarities, everything started to kind of make sense to me. However, there was still something I had to define. And that was the concept of the Trinity. Because it was something that I wholeheartedly believed in, it was something that are propagated. But having started this comparative study, I found that I could no longer believe in it. Now, it's important for us to first define as to what this Trinity means. And what it is defined as the Trinity means that there is only

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one true God. And the best God is defined in three different personalities, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and that all three of these entities are one, they are co equal and co eternal. They are omnipresent, they are all powerful, and all knowing. So what this means is that all three of these entities have absolute power at the end of the day. But if we study the Gospels, and on a theological basis, we find that we can no longer believe in this concept, even beyond the fact that God is only one and that nothing that we ever perceive could be locked onto him. Therefore Jesus peace be upon him is already out of the equation. But in order to understand the Trinity, let's

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dissect it a little bit.

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Now, all three of these entities is said to be omnipresent, meaning that they are everywhere at once. But Jesus Christ says in the book of john chapter eight, verse 14, that Yeah, and the man in front of you and you're looking for a way to kill me. So Jesus Christ is saying that he is a man whom is bound by flesh. However, Christian missionaries would argue that once Jesus Christ died upon the cross, he turned to a spiritual being, and therefore he is omnipresent. However, ask yourself as to what the differentiation between us and him is then, because when we die, our spiritual also let free and therefore, according to their definition, we would also be omnipresent, but the other two

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points are slightly less ambiguous and less philosophical. Now all three of these entities are said to be all knowing, but Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon him says in the book of Matthew chapter 24, verse 36, that of the final day in our nose, no one, not the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Therefore, he is defining that the Son himself who is himself does not have all the knowledge and even if you ask Christian missionaries, okay, but is the son still Jesus Christ, they would define Yes, because all three of these personalities are separate from one another. But here the son himself is the finding that he doesn't have all the knowledge. The final

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point being that they are all powerful. Now, if you read the book of john chapter five, verse 30, Jesus Christ

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Peace and blessings be upon him says that out of my own self, I can do nothing. As I hear, I judge my judgment is just because I seek not to please myself, but only him who had sent me. Therefore he is the finding that out of his own power, you can do nothing, that all the miracles that he performs, and he mentioned this countless of times are testament to the power of God, and not his own power. And this is defined as well within all the other prophets that came before him. Even if you look at Moses, Ezekiel, David, Elijah, Solomon, all of their miracles, they always gave the glorification to God. For instance, when Moses peace and blessings be upon him, struck his staff and

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see separated, he didn't say I did this in my own power. He said that I was inspired to do this by God, and this is a testament to his power. Now, this is not the only place within the Bible that this is mentioned. In the book of Matthew chapter 12, verse 28, Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon him also says that I with the Spirit of God casts out demons. In the book of Luke chapter 11, verse 20, he says that I with the finger of God caused our demons. So whenever he performed a miracle, he said that I'm not doing this on our own power. It is a testament to the power that is flowing through me from God. And it's a testament to his mind, and is a testament to his glory. So

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ultimately, for me, on a theological basis, I found that I could no longer believe in this concept. But that was not enough for me, I had to understand exactly where everything was implemented. And what I discovered is that for the first 300 years after Jesus Christ, the concept of CO equality between the father and the son was non existent. There is not a single church father that says that the Father and the Son are co equal with one another. They are only taken in a dual nature, that you can only get to a father through Jesus Christ by following in his footsteps as all the other prophets before and we're in that implementation. Now, the concept of the Trinity was only

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instituted in the Council of nicaea in the year 325, by Roman Emperor named Constantine, who himself was under threat. Now, I would like to make another video regarding that. But just to give you a little bit of a brief history of mithraism

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birtherism believed that the sun god would send down his son mithras, to die for the people and they would eat his flesh and drink his blood in order to attain salvation, they will also be baptized, the religious day of worship would be on the Sunday in resemblance to the Sun God, and his birthday would also be celebrated in the winter solstice, which is on the 25th of December. So all these similarities is also being found within this concept of Mithra ism. And Christianity. And the pagans during that time actually wrote out against the Christians, and they said that you guys are stealing of our doctrine. And even some of the church fathers, like the tullian himself, said that Satan pre

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entered the religion in order to overthrow Christianity. So if we look at the history itself, there's already all these connections that we can find. But this is not where it stops. In the year 381, at the Council of Constantinople. That was the very first time that the Holy Spirit was added or included into the concept of the Trinity. Only once verse had occurred was the Trinity fully fleshed, as we understand it, and it is, as it is implemented within the church today. That was the first time that the word Trinity itself meant what it means today that the Holy Spirit was also added in the seclusion of Korea quality. Now, Jesus peace be upon him also makes it unambiguously

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clear that he's not caught within the Bible. For instance, in the book of john chapter 17, verse three, he says that this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Therefore, Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon him is sent by none other than the only true God. And therefore, even if we call him God, he himself is saying that he is not the true God, that He has been sent by the only true God. Therefore, it is important for us to understand that we cannot worship Him. Now, during this time, I had to make exclusion between these two concepts Am I going to follow man, the inclination, the implementation within history, how they

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define the scriptures itself, for instance, john one chapter one, where Jesus peace be upon him, the word is called Houthi us and not Pantheon, which means the only true God or the same is also in john chapter one, verse 18. john chapter 20, verse 28, all these definitions is Houthi us. And the same can be found in two Corinthians chapter four, verse four, in reference to Satan, where Satan is also called Houthi us, which means a god a divine or a being, it doesn't mean that they are Tom fion, which is the god the divine, the creator. So had to make the separation, I had to decide that I'm going to submit myself to the one and truly Almighty Creator God, and I'm going to follow him in his

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profits only. And I'm going to move away from the inclinations of man and whenever somebody tells me something, I'm going to look as to what God has to say about it. And I hope that that gives a clarification as to why I accepted the concept of Tajweed and the concept of the Creator defined in the Holy Quran Chapter 112 verse

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one to four. Now, I would like to make a personal request that if you enjoy these kind of videos regarding comparative religion on various topics, please do follow my Facebook page and also like my things on Instagram, I truly appreciate all the support you guys are giving me. And the work that I'm doing is not possible without such support. And furthermore, if you guys are enjoying the work that we are doing, as IRA sharing Islam with a broader community and the world as we have various ideas all over the world itself, then please do follow us on YouTube and also follow us on Facebook, and all the support that you guys give us. I just really for myself want to say thank you because

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