Revolutionary Women In Islam

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Alima Ashfaq

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I understand that we have some individuals who are not, right.

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Okay, let's translate for you guys. So I smashed in the name of a lot, and it says piece of lessons upon.

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And I also want to start off with a similar article. And whenever we hear, especially, you know, when we start our lectures, or when we meet someone, why do we say Assalam Alikum? You know, for us and for us. God is reframing that when you meet somebody, especially when you meet on Simo especially when you meet a friend, you are either you're starting on a new footing, you're starting you're seeing them from a different light. So and I've been asked to speak about the top 10 of women and women who make an impact. But before I begin, I want to ask you guys why you're here today. You know what made you come today? So when he has some from the brothers and sisters, and especially

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those who may not be

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sisters, what made you come today?

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Well just wait until Yes.

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People don't tend to know like the background and input that women just contribution that they ignore. And some people are very ignorant about the situation.

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Are you okay? Are you thank you so much. So anyone from the sister side well meaning from today,

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we sometimes happens and so anyone from the sisters surgeon other than the fact that you have to come? So what's one reason that motivated you to come today? Honestly, because I would like to gain more knowledge on the inspiration that existed.

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Okay, awesome. Anybody else? You know, your engagement will help me adapt my talk to your needs. So

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regarding

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Okay, awesome, and be honest, by the way, and you know, if you have a problematic view about Islam, unless you don't speak about it, how can we address it so any more anyone from the brothers?

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Because just one thing, by the way, I came to surgery last year, and we had one brother. So whenever Mohammed invited me and I'm like, you know, Mashallah, the whole vibe was different and like, you know, how many brothers will come this time So, Mashallah, it's really nice to see so.

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Yes.

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Okay, so one thing I want to do is I'm going to bring up some verses from the Quran. And one of the reasons why I'm going to bring up verses from the Koran is because when people want to change, and when people see oppression that made it appear like it's from them, so community, then trauma

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And, you know, from the political aspect they see from visitor isms, they tend to ideologies. And what we found is that Muslims, they feel very strongly about their faith, even if they differ in practice, and what my aim is to go back to the phone on and demonstrate how did that affect? And how did God truly empower women. And you know, when I think about revolutionary women, I'm going to bring up examples of women who were mentioned in the Quran, then I'm going to bring up examples of women in the time of the Prophet, peace be upon and then I'm going to mention women in Islamic history. And finally, I'm going to mention contemporary role models, I always say to people, whether

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your skin or whether you're non Muslim, leave your biases at the door, that if you come in this lecture, with your cup full benefit you icon, like, you can benefit from this lecture. But if you're even willing to empty that cup a little, and I can, I can help a bridge, you know, create bridges. And that's why I say and, you know, we're talking about the political state, you know, had a lot, even now we know what's happening in the media right now. I go with Facebook, and I have Muslims, you know, literally, they say, Now I understand why my father and mother said, as we were part of London,

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like, we don't feel that welcome home down, like nobody's throwing you out. This is an opportunity for you to understand how much am I part of this society? Because if you're born here, you all Western rotations, and go here to stay. So how can I make an impact in my community, and the topic of women in Islam is a sore point for a lot of people, because a lot of it is based on untruth. That is just not a majority of stuff that said, is not true. And that's why I'm speaking to one of the sisters. And I said, you know, you're at university, you're critical thinkers, when you write an academic essay, your professor expects you to go outside and look at different sources. If you

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search on Google, has anybody done that? You search? Oh, my God, images and those images, and I'm like, No wonder

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if I was looking from the outside. And I remember one person, they said that if you and if you want to read something ineffective, just barely on the second page of Google, because nobody looks better. And that's what we have right now. So we have to redefine what it means to be a woman. So I'm starting off. I mentioned we're on one, once again, mentioning that, you know, God, he fought for Muslims, he, he revealed Quran in Arabic for many reasons. And one of those major reasons is because our pure sense is absolutely beautiful, for example, and the concept of sadness and looking on, there's different names for Allah. Allah, Allah, God, he uses a way. Does anybody feel like when

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they're going through a problem, they just feel like, nothing's going right. And they're thinking to themselves, when will they get better? Like, that's when there's something called a woman. It's like, you know, someone's really sad what they have over them their cloud, right? And like the sun penetrate a woman is the perfect word for that. So

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he says, He says, Yeah,

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weather, I want to take you through a journey, four steps. And for those of you who may be wondering why,

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if you think Islam is oppressive, and especially if someone comes to you and say it's oppressive, and they start to controversy from that context, this is a cron and this is our spring roll, spring boots up here got from the beginning, and I need to lay the foundation. And is he says that men and women are from the same element in created from the same thing. So you don't like abuse, oppression that people try and say isn't in the name of the sand? From the beginning sees your main from the same thing? Then there's another verse Then it's

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so first number one, yo, God says you're pretty creative on same elements. Second, he says, first agenda

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will be your main home decorating. From an English language perspective, you have male and female, you have man and you have woman you have God and you have goddess and a female is always linked to the male right? From a narrative perspective. That's not the case. The woman is a nipple like the woman is involved with, or at least, the woman is unfair and the man is vacating. He's really

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is originally, the men and women have a complete separate identity. That's why in marriage for Muslims, the woman does not take the name of the husband, because she still maintains that individual identity. So number one was that men or women are from the same element. Secondly, even though they're from the same element, they are two completely separate entities. I'm going back to the fundamentals. So number three is some a lot of other things. And I've got the translation, and so I'm not repeating it. So we'll move we know that we'll move minute. Audio Well, um, so God, he says, men and women are allies, once again, going back to the Arabic language, allies means friends,

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it means protected. It means men and women, they look out for each other, they're there for each other. The final point and I'm going to end on this note here,

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men and women are garments. So this is another verse, he says, Coronavirus to live. So he says they are closing for you. And we want to clothing for them. Something that I wanted that mean? It means that you know, your clothing, your clothes, your womb, you, you It protects you, it looks out for you. So here for Muslims, even before we start speaking about like the status that we have held in society, and they still hold now, by the way, but all these women are university where you're studying NATO educating, like if slavery so oppressive would you be here? Sometimes the reality speaks louder than the media, but the media are definitely us. And I just think to myself, like,

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Don't you see Muslim women participating in society, and you still will go and watch a video that's biased. So here are four elements, the four steps. So this is what God has done. They are one from sin element. Two, they are individual identities. Three, that they are protecting friends, and

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they are like the best that goes by and this is the context of marriage. It's in the context of marriage, because marriage and what what is it what the and it's a lot, man, it's love, and it's mercy, and who he is married for your hand up.

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Okay, so I married my two kids, and two and a three year old, that was my mom right now. And everybody will understand that within the marital relationship, there'll be times when there's love, and the times when you like.

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And that's where the mercy and the rough math comes in, where you're good to her, even though you don't love her, or you're not feeling that love for all you're not feeling that love for him. So it's, it's that close. So I want to I'm going to end on that point there. So those are my four points. So one thing I want to begin is that when it comes to revolutionary women, what is the word? What's the term revolutionary mean to you? What does that mean to you? But even before we begin that, what are some of the misconceptions that you have heard about Muslim women? And for those of you who are not Muslim, what are some of the misconceptions that you have about women? So here we

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have some engagement. So what are the misconceptions? misconceptions? Yes. Okay. So your name is Julia. Okay. Okay. But there are no strong women in Islam.

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With the misconception, not all Muslim women feel themselves to be oppressed.

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General Muslim women have been oppressed. That's still the case today in Muslim majority countries, but but it's not a universal truth. Okay.

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Thank you. And we want to say how would we define oppression?

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Yeah, I would say that women are not so free,

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or free as men are to say, which is that presumption? Sorry? Is that your presumption?

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definition of oppression?

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No, that's good. That's good. And I'm just trying to like, I'm trying to look into it a bit deeper. So we can widen the conversation in your mind. And this is something when I first started giving lectures, especially about women in Islam, we've come to the notion of aluminum great, American women are great, and sometimes

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they're oppressed in this country. And then, after a few years of lecturing, I came to the realization that we have to come up here nuclear, but then all of a sudden move into a price. Absolutely. denied. Even I will go in my communities. And that's why when I when we do the schematic renascence and when I come here, one of the reasons I'm here is because I'm tackling that abuse that we can get out

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Be clear that women have a place in the boss, there is no such thing as domestic violence, that women should go forward in their careers woman should go and progress and that takes nothing away from them. modesty and spirituality. Yes, I would also say that when it comes to Muslim countries, for example, information means, and like I mentioned. And so, you know, I'm part of a group called soul sisters. It's like, it's a big group on Facebook. And you'll be surprised, like somebody started this thread, how many women drive Pakistan, and I'm thinking of not believing men, and victory in 1000. Women. We all know, I have my own car drive. I'm working. And even that change my

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misconception about Pakistan, because I have this presumption that women in Pakistan are oppressed, because when I watched the news, so even that

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challenged my idea. So like I said, and challenging ideas, so any more ideas, misconceptions about women.

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In South Asian countries, especially, culture is more prominent than religion. And people confuse the culture with religion. It's not religious culture that's taken over like, domestic stuff. That's not religion, as you said. And again, misconceptions about driving, there's nothing like that. And it's coming from

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all my life, I've seen women

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in my social circle, never even heard of it. When I came here to watch the news, I heard the pressure is increasing universalization of the world, but even giving the pressure

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to look a certain way and things like that. I never heard of it. But coming

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back to the misconceptions, absolutely. I was in Trinidad and went for a convention, and the system didn't come to the UK. She said, No, I'm gonna like, and I'm gonna have acid thrown on me. I'm like, you know,

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like, women in London are having acid salt thrown on them. And she was like, literally scared. I'm like, That's not true. And I remember I went to the US on an exchange program, with the US, US Embassy recently, about five years ago. And literally stepping into the shoes, you realize that you're you we make assumptions. We make presumptions. And we have to go back to research. And more importantly, we have to go back to having a real genuine conversation with people that nothing tackles Islamophobia. Nothing tackles xenophobia, other than real conversations. So moving on. So what I want to focus on today is the Mojave Desert. So before the Mojave said, and women from the

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time of the earliest. So what makes a woman revolutionary, when I said it won't make and because, you know, these women in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him. They were absolutely ordinary women who became extraordinary due to their commitment due to their responses. So I'm going to focus on about five

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for women. Okay, so who has heard about nusseibeh in for the Alon summit?

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Okay, so new Sabir, her name was Amara, I decided the best one minute the men and women are the leading allies, they say that that list was revealed. Because Amara, she came to the

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cape, the prophet peace be upon it. You know, why are not worse is about women. Now there were but this woman comes forward to a religious authority, who for us Muslims is the highest religious authority and like, what about me, like more about why am I not included? And then they think that God heard her and he revealed that this that you are important that you are imperative. So Islam, for Muslims, it's absolutely spiritual internet connection back to Allah. It's a connection back to the Creator. Islam answers that question, first and foremost, why am I here? Where am I headed? When I go into my grave? Is this the end? And this all stems from it? So the thing to say that and you

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know, the prophet peace be upon him, it was the time they were being attacked.

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You know, they were defending themselves. So we know that he met the Prophet peace be upon him. He was given the order that you are patient, that even though you are abused and you are mocked and you will slandered, you do not retaliate.

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You focus your efforts on reflection, you focus your efforts on your own and you strengthen your mind. Then in Medina, the prophet peace be upon him, he was given that permission, that if you need to defend yourself, you can. So it's the Battle of it, and hear the Prophet peace be upon him. He's being attacked, and he will have a woman and she's nursing the soldiers. So now you can teach women that the battlefield, I want you to understand when I mentioned battlefield, people become a bit defensive. And I've been to America and I went to a basketball match. And when it came time for the anthem that I'm

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talking about, I'm from the UK. We're not like we just about a God Save the Queen or something. We don't do that kind of stuff. And we went to the Citadel. Anybody heard of the Citadel? Okay, so we went there, and they were actually speaking. And she said that, you know, when it comes to female soldiers, it's a big, it was a big thing to have a female soldier in class. And that female soldier actually got a lot of flack for even you better.

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I'm thinking of the Sabre, all these women, then nursing the male soldiers, and suddenly she sees the

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attack, and she doesn't think twice, and she goes, and she defends him, and she protects them. And the Prophet peace be upon him. In short, and he's thinking, he doesn't stop it doesn't say to her, you're a woman, you should stay at home, your own skin, what would what are you doing in the private sphere? No. And that's why we have an honor. And for those of you who may not have heard of Homer, Homer is a really strong, principled personality and trying to think of someone in the public sphere.

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And nobody comes to mind.

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And really principle that even an older, even within Islamic history is known as a principled, firm character, he would take counsel,

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and they say, at least white, Islamic.

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Literary literature is so strong, because it's been preserved so greatly. They say when they analyzed his counsel, and his advice, and they analyzed her advice, they were pretty much saying, because they were constantly going back and forth. But that was absolutely normal, the Society of the Prophet and that's why the most of the prophets, a lot of people are surprised that the mosque of the Prophet, there is the man in front that has women behind and there is no barrier, they will see each other, there is a door, a separate door for the women, if they choose to go through that. But then they'll say no doubt that the men and women were just going out, because some women felt

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more comfortable because they were getting squash. You know, that is how that is right? You get that you get pushed around, forget that. I just want my own separate door and the Prophet peace be upon him. He took their feelings into consideration, and he got them. And I'm telling you personal stories. Because when we look at Islam, and when we look at the text, what we do is that we do

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what we do with the sources, and when we do the Prophet peace be upon him, we rip him away from being an emotional human being, we dehumanize the Prophet peace be upon him, we

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are women. And that's why the case of shadiness going on right now, and I'm not a political analyst, so I'm not going to comment on it too much. But I remember a lot of women were commenting, and they're like, we feel like it's an attack.

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Because we know shamima, like what she done that's completely on Islamic and unacceptable. And that's already agreeable. But this obsession with her in the media right now, we're capitalizing on it. Why? Like we have to think about because it makes money, because it takes us away from our priorities, which are Brexit right now, which actually do affect the future of our country. You know, like, here, the profit is good. That's why they say that when his son passed away, he had a young son, when his son passed away, he was crying, because he just crying his eyes out as fathers do, right. And someone came up to him, I thought, why are you crying? And he like replied back to

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him like a human being. But what can I do if God has deprived you of mercy? Like, just like, it's because he's human, he feels he has, and that's why the economy said one of the hardest times of my life was when I was when I had stones thrown at me when I went to die. You know, he went to us for help. He didn't even pull them to sled. He just asked for support. And they say that they brought in young children and they got the, you know, people who just weren't that you know, had mental health issues and they got them to stone him to such an extent that he was bleeding and they say he went

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And he cried, and he made a praise. I was

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like, Oh my god, like this is so hard. calling people to lie beneath is the truth is hard. What I'm saying is that we have to humanize the Prophet peace be upon him, you have to humanize these women, that's when we can truly benefit from them. So you have to say that she wasn't. She wasn't wary of, you know, fighting, defending and being present, she was there she was present, then you have it should be back here.

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So if they say that, and if I was taken out of the picture, that half of this land will be missing, because she is one of the major narrators of prophetic traditions, because she spent most of the time of the Prophet peace be upon him. She was there with him at most, most of the time, so they say that I should demonstrate a high level of leadership. You know, when you think of somebody winning like a Nobel Peace Prize, like literature, or scholarship for Muslims, that is Ayesha, you know, she was intelligent, she was young, she was courageous, she was resilient. She had a great memory. And that's why even at one time, there was one companion, you know, if they uttered something that was

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for women, Mm hmm. Do not

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get up and shoot first to defend women. So these were women who had a voice, and they were speaking, and that's why Xena and Mohammed is the daughter of the Prophet peace be upon him. They say that, you know,

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she was married to us and prepared to her husband. And then, you know, she accepted Islam and he didn't. So when they moved to Medina, they separated. And they say that when he was coming back from he went to a trade caravan where he was returning that, you know, he was attacked, and you run into Molina and he went, and he sought help from his. And he was getting his wife from his wife. And they went to her house and Xavier, the daughter of the Prophet, she went out at the time of federal visa women in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, they went to the praise, they went for federal they went for longer went, they went for Asia, even when it was very common. There was nobody could

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take the the rights of a woman from what I've said, why men and women do it today. So she went for federal and she stood up, they say, she stood up, and you know, we loud voice, she said, I give protection to

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the father of my daughter, and she shampoo. This is a

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she's surrounded by men and women, she speaks really confidently, and the Prophet peace be upon him. They said, he turns around and says, I wasn't aware of this, but I just what I didn't know she was going to do this. Eventually the Prophet peace be upon you with their house. And he said, that's absolutely fine. You can do protection. What I'm saying here was even the daughter of the Prophet peace be upon him, she went out in the public forefront, and she had a voice. And whenever I mentioned these examples, I find him upset sometimes, you

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know, why do I have to give such new example that women, Muslim women are doing anyway, to prove a point about Islam? Do you understand where I'm coming from, but we are put on such a defense that Islam is oppressive, that Islam doesn't treat women well, that we feel the need to go back to the basics, unfortunately. So then you have a sponsor. And they say that since I was known for her poetry, she was an artist and be like a genius when it came to words. And they say that sunset before she became Muslim Brothers passed away. And she would write poetry. And they said that she's like, if it weren't for my, like, for me fearing death, that I just would have, like committed

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suicide or something. But they say that when she became that her whole view of loss changed. When I had my son, Zachary. He was born at 25. And it was

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and I remember my husband and I, we had to come to the realization there, that my child wouldn't survive. And then there was a lot of nurses and the nurses would come out. And they say, one thing we find profound about the Muslim community is how they deal with loss. Because they believe that this life is not the end. They believe that their child even if they use at a younger age, is heading to somewhere greater than maybe he or she has been protected from harm in this life. It's just we found that perfect

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found that even when someone passes away, and the champions come in the wings can deal with it. And that's what's concept. Number one. She was encouraged in the arts. She was incredibly skilled in writing, in performing when you have spoken words, right? Like she was incredible. And they say the Prophet said, peace be upon him. Whenever he would see her, he would say, hey, Hannah's it. But yeah, unless you'd have more like, recite more poetry, I want to hear it, because there are others. They loved poetry, and I absolutely adore it. So here the Prophet peace be upon him. He's a reflection of his culture. And it's like he's encouraging

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women to stay at home, you can't practice the opposite. If you have the skill, the prophet peace be upon him to nurture it. And that's why we have Ayesha one of the greatest talents because the Prophet peace be upon and recognize that she has an absolutely excellent mind. So let's help her grow. So I'm going to mention now to women from the Quran, who has heard of Queen of Sheba.

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Okay, so we have built these buildings in the ground. And you have a Marian, the mother of Jesus, and these two examples of absolutely profound, because below the ground, he mentioned many,

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many male leaders in a very unfavorable light. He says they were evil, they were oppressive, they were ironical, that kill their people, they were really they were power hungry, they put their own needs before their people, we see that now, right? This look in the political arena. And then surprisingly, God mentioned bilities, the a woman, and he mentioned her in a favorable light. I always found that profound, though here

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is mentioning a woman is giving her leadership qualities. He's surrounding her with men who she's seeking guidance from, and they are seeking guidance from her, that within itself, the grind is changing the paradigm that you think women can't Excel, you can't think you think that we're on is oppressive. You know, these men have money, money sitting and making money. What makes him so great is that her mother, Hannah had a misconception, the misconception of Hannah was that my daughter, left wing politics. So she had a dream, like I want to try and, you know, think about that I want to try and I wanted to become a new man, I wanted to go out, I wanted to have a leadership position.

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And she had this misconception that only men can do that. So she actually made a daughter love my alma mater, Korea, that, you know, I want to dedicate this child for you. And they say that God, you know, here's a woman who truly believes, and they say that God could have given her a boy that he gave her a girl, because he was changing the perception that when it comes to your activism, when it comes to make a difference to gender doesn't matter. And that's a million even at that time, she was the first woman to go in the houses of worship, and have a place that and I find that strange that women in our time are still fighting for places in the West. And he had already achieved that.

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Because one of

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the men and women are lies, you know, and they say that unfolds Acadia was the one that facilitated because we're here to work together. Okay, so are you guys Louis? Yeah, you have to ask that question, you guys.

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Okay, so I want to speak about them, it said, so I'm gonna focus on a few key areas. So the Mohanty said of female scholars who existed after the time of the Prophet peace be upon him. These female scholars, I want you to give me a number of how many women are recorded in Islamic texts. How many female scholars Do you think we have

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in Islamic history? Right.

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So oftentimes, more than two now, but our research was from classical scholars, give me a number.

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Sorry.

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We appreciate

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you know, like I tried to pull you guys out.

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Okay, I need another

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1000 anymore.

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Yeah, like 10 that like we recorded in hospital is 1800

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our directory,

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I mentioned on DirecTV and DirecTV

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one directly how many together directly and indirectly

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mentioned Okay, I

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don't have time I tried.

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Just give me another number

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25 brothers.

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Okay, I'm gonna bring you back. 20 320-620-6323 women are mentioned in the Quran directly and indirectly, and Samson's 1000. But there's absolutely so many more. They say that a mama Buhari studied under 60 female teachers, it was very common for the male scholars to study under female scholars, he was just calling you to go outside. The female should be holding a headlock, and you'd sit inside, it wouldn't be a big thing. Like for example, you brothers, you've come into this, let's just say you've come into this Islamic lecture. And you just mean not a big deal, right? Why do we make things into it? No, you come? Let's just say another Female Speaker came a few days later,

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you'd come and you'd attend and you'd leave. It was common. You have an mentioned numbers Who here has heard of it?

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Okay, so a normal Buhari is after the Quran, his book has the most prominent in and the like the oma instant community and 60 female teachers. And then you have even hedger, they say he learned from his wife, when he was no more way you learning from it was very common. So a few answers. So the existence of the mahadi said, the female scholars, he breaks the stereotypes that women cannot be, or we're not authorities within the Muslim community. That's why there was only one copy of the Quran, only one copy of the Quran the most has, and after the death of the Prophet, peace be upon him, who was the copy given to

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him? He was given to have Sir, he was he wasn't given to him. It was known as a mighty scholar, he wasn't given to ignore Bez he was known as a, you know, like, you can have the champion, right? You have the Chaplin, and then you have the presidents. And then you have your hand, right?

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Okay. Um, so, like here, we decided that the copy goes to you,

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like, gentle wasn't an issue for them. That's what I'm trying to understand. Gender has become an issue now. Whether that's due to

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number one, issues within the Muslim community, we have many issues within our community, whether it's the effects of colonization, which we cannot know, but I don't like to blame. You know what we do, it's so easy to scapegoat other people, because when escape go other people, you don't have your own problems. We have enough problems, but we can also have other factors. But it was very common. Secondly, the Mohammed said, they redefined scholarship, because it's not a patriarchal, scholarly framework. People need to understand that when you have the Quran, and it's being collected, when you have the Hadith that you have many people say to you find before find the best of you, or those

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who are best to the wife or your wives, you know, that it isn't didn't come from a patriarchal, scholarly framework. He came off the backs of men and women who were utterly dedicated to preserving this faith. I was just inventing a new student, and I went to the multi faith prayer room, and it's full, and you have these things going in and out any amount. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, or, and unlike you have young people who are 16 and you have elderly people who are like 16, that coming because their faith is absolutely important to that. And that's why one of the reasons why many people have an issue with Islam is because we have knowns, you know, I decide to wear the headscarf

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on site, wherever that is my personal choice. This will not I will not stop wearing the headscarf or the antibiotics. I live in the UK. There's no like it's not fading. And that's where people assume that when you come to the UK, you have to assimilate that for you to be a good British citizen. You have to be like you have to fit in whereas we believe

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They can integrate, and you have to absolutely integrate. You have to be part of the institution, you have to, you know, be on the boards of the schools, you have to go in and you have to be the DVLA to give to the doctors. But that doesn't mean you have to compromise your why is it that everybody deserves that freedom of expression, except that everybody has an issue with what I'm wearing. Everybody has an issue with the BA, everybody has an issue that may give another there's not one issue that everybody has an issue that somebody made to this, we are so big on everybody having, you know, their own form of sexuality. But address is problematic for people. So there's a

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lot of hypocrisy there. And it's important to call that out. Everybody has the right to believe in what they believe. And just like I remember, I went to Nottingham University and a group of

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Caucasian males, and the old in front of me like you've internalized misogyny. And like you, as a man are telling me I'm

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right. I'm like, I can't be happy.

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She went with me, she got me to let these guys need to stop, like a certain like you were deciding to be able to do what you're doing. I'm like, absolutely, depending on where you're going.

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Okay, depending where I go, I wouldn't be allowed to I would not be allowed, right? So don't use your biases to try and put me down because I know enough about my religion, to not be broken, you know. So I number three, I mentioned I she played a major role in the formation of Islam. And she set a precedent that Islam, you know, the religion, the faith, it was open to the whole family scholars respected as scholarship, gender didn't pay by biology didn't have a factor. Now, here's the thing. This is where people get confused about what Islam does is it it says focus on your priorities, focus on your priorities, it gives objective guidelines for those priorities. But there

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are always subjective scenarios that those objective rules don't apply. directly to I'm coming from. So what Islam does is that it says, A gives the the men Not, not in most cases that it gives them the the woman, they have a leadership responsibility and also a financial responsibility. because there'll be a time where, in some cases, a woman may have children, and she is unable to work. And that gives her

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Do you understand it's not that it gives them out of control, it gives the woman

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and it makes it easy for her and I know what that feels like? I remember I used to be on Facebook and all these women used to write posts about motherhood and financial condescending, and patronizing. And then I had children. And then I was in my second trimester of pregnancy, and I'm a Hollywood girl.

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And I said to my son, I call you up for Wednesday. No, you just you fine. Get out. And I don't tell him five, you cannot empathize with what I'm going through right now. You know, so it Sam gives priorities, it gives roles. But those roles have to empower men and women. The first and foremost role that Islam does is that you're a believer that you're a human being actually, you're a human being. And then you're a believer, and then you being a mother or a father, or you need a doctor, being an engineer, you being the Prime Minister, that doesn't make you great, because we have men who are mentioned in the Quran that had great role.

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But they did evil thing. But what makes them great is that whenever you take a role, you do it well. So I'm focusing a lot on the spiritual aspect, because I find this a lot more effective than going back and forth with evidences. So going back. Okay.

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So, who here has heard of Dr. femininity?

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Okay, so just remember that we put together a 57 volume of female solids. And within that book, and it was absolutely and it is absolutely groundbreaking, because he brings up examples of women, and he brings up male scholars, and he tells you how many teachers they've had. But one thing I want you to understand is that many of these women, by people will say that why don't we know more about these women? Many of these women weren't concerned about leadership positions. They will they just wanted to make an impact. Do you understand? So you have you have fought

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and fought, she established must've been a huge mustard in phase in Morocco. And she did that with

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Then we had women who were exceptionally knowledgeable, and they were more focused. They were busy. They were like homemakers. And I married and I have kids. And you know, I'm gonna go home on Monday. It's all toggling between studying, fitting in babies and going back and doing school runs. I'm meeting so many University grand women who at this time, they didn't prioritize their children, many of them have gone back to work, virtual children, nine childcare, but they don't they don't have time to go out and be something. Do you understand? They are concerned, I'm making a difference in what is in my control right now. And that's where you have many of the females qualify. And that's

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why I want to mention these names. Because they are important to me is that you had an Buhari in Abu when he they studied with 70 women, it was just common. You had a Muslim, I believe he studied with 70 women in Basra, very low, very common. You have mm hmm, definitely. The majority, he wrote a book and he said that among 1000 1000, speaker, teachers, 400 of them are women. with normal, they're going back and forth. He said, Imagine a colony, which is the big one said he studied more than 70 books with my shirt. This year, it was very common, that studying with female soldiers and part of their lives. So it completely breaks the stereotype that, you know, men and women, they were part of

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the society that will this oppression that takes place usually takes place because people don't have knowledge. And I want you to understand the demographics. A lot of people that say for example of Pakistan, from India, when they came over to the UK, many of them may have went to the factory design, because they just wanted to survive. They got the corner shops, and then their children. A few of them went to university, but many of them did not. If your generation that's going to university, it's not their generation. They're just surviving. So now you have and this is what permanently saved you from karate, right? They have an amazing culture, you go to Kashmir, it's

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amazing. You had that food Ranger recently.

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And when you made those food videos, and he liked his facial expressions, or something else, but he's loving the food. But he said the problem is that many times the Muslim community when they came here, they had a tendency to stick together and hold on to their culture. And that's what kept them safe. That's why you have places like in Birmingham in Amro, they have a tendency to stick together not because they don't want to integrate it because they felt safe. And that's why when where I live in Wolfeboro, you have pockets like my father always told us don't go to jail, or don't go to these places. Because it's like, it's an all white area. It's been a few times and I've been attacked. So

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when I came to that realization, I learned that it's not you're not attacking because you're white, or you're Asian, you're attacking because you're ignorant. You're attacking because you're not mixing, you're attacking because you don't have an appreciation of this faith. And now when you go on Facebook and you're reading election email, and then you're on the bus and you see a woman that looks like Chevy man, you like that and say,

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you know, what, if you go and started having a conversation with a woman and said to her Listen, I listen to news. Whenever I go out with my husband's

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utopia report, you can

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see how you doing great conversation with

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you do that? Why? Because I'm like, I have the opportunity to change that perspective. So number two, is

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okay. I want to mention a few of these names. Can I Are you happy for me to go through the names? I just don't want to miss anything. So you have a lot. She's a prominent to juries, meaning she's, she's giving rulings she's taking rulings, the men and women are coming to her and her students included other medical marijuana, one who was the halifa, who was the highest religious and political authority, he would come to Alma de la and she would go to his house, and she would teach them and she would teach their children. It was common, you had other men. And the story of the man is quite interesting.

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She was once again a jurist, and in the time of Medina, and there was a case. We know that in some countries, there's at times there can be capital punishment. So and by the way, that's the case in Singapore. That's the case in

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it was in America, and it happens in many countries. So in that time, so my kept was found speeding. So here a main judge.

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Pastor rebecky goes through the capital punishment of mine, she had about this case she got like, no, like, he that's not the case. Like you don't, you can't put someone through a punishment on their first offense. This is someone who has stolen

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you know, several times, and this is someone who's gone above the head, and you take a personal situation into consideration. The capital punishment is not to punish people. And it's not something that can be applied to, or you know, but it's not to punish people, it's a deterrent. It's there to deter people. And she stepped in. And they say that that person was actually he went,

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but at that time, and we finally acknowledge them and basically live together. So Muslims committed crimes, nonsense, committed crimes, and she stepped in, and he, he was saved from that, because she was knowledgeable in that field. And that's why they say that even nonces, in Islamic societies, they reached high

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positions, that they weren't counted, and they were political activists, it was very normal for them to be that it's not like your normal skin, so we can't take from you. So it's very different to how to

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interpret that because you have this conception of ISIS, right? Completely dehumanized with any, so that even the one that has become like a hot word that advocates, you know, that's a radical, extreme group that is taking advantage of young women. And that's why

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he said that no religion, or religion can take a good person and make them great. But you know, a bad person, they will use religion, to further their hatred, and they will use it and they use it. And that's what we have, we have good people, they come into faith, and they're great, then you have bad people who have evil characteristics, and they take the religion and they do awful things. You know, and you need to look at Islam, when you go to Mexico, you go to Peru, you go to the drug cartels, and you go to stuff, you go to rape cases in India, and to

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Muslims who are doing this. So the problem is that whenever we have a case that happens to be Muslim, we capitalize on it. But now if we bring in drug cartels, and we bring in the grooming gangs, let's just say in Huddersfield, your perception of both of some different, and I was recently reading the news on assets, and they would like all the PDF files,

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to hold the PDF files, there are only two Asian

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because your color doesn't define whether your PDF file or not. It's who you are, or what you decide to do. So you might you have thought about another woman who is known as Sophia, this is in the fourth century, she was celebrated for her, you know, her connection, she was a spiritual woman, you know, anything over Buddhism, you think of spirituality when you think of slang, when you think about, you know, because it's been coined in such a way. So these women were spiritual, they were praying, they were reflection. And they say that she was the granddaughter of Buddhahood. And she was a scholar, she was known to teach, and you have on the

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center, she her daughter, she was the daughter of the judge.

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Meaning that some of the most conservative men, we're raising some of the most empowered women's women, sorry, because we have this perception, the more religious you are, the more harsh you are, the more like, you know, unfriendly you are. These people are some of the most religious but that they that's why they say that the Prophet peace be upon him. He was lousy. He's like the best character. There's a prophetic generation. But they say that the Prophet peace be upon him was sent as a beacon of good character. He came to help people, he came to be kind to people. And that's why whenever we see the properties we're calling this time to young is kind to all these kinds of

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animals. Is it plants is taking that into consideration. You have she heard about the law, she's already mentioned Shiva, because she was the first woman who was given the position in the marketplace. So you know, you have Do you have minimal? You don't matter? All right, what do you have Westfield? nearby? Far away? I'm guessing. Yeah. Westfield, like something as big as Westfield. And all that is directed at chifa that you're the manager. And they say she would go on, he would really like that really strict manager that you just don't mess around with. It was normal. And if people understand, Your Honor, was they'll understand that even as someone who shows strong religion

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in terms of religiosity, he has no problem.

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electing a female, then you have just a few more jobs and she has a class who regularly and she had huge audiences, audiences and into the 1000s of men and women that were dedicated to learning from her. You have fostered a better person. She's a scholar in the fifth and sixth century. And she was a master of calligraphy. That was a talent. She was known for that she was celebrated for that you have Karina she is considered the best authority of study and Buhari even above the male scholars, like she celebrated for that you have thought about the Mohammed she is to the writer and her she will lead to the rest of the body. And they were attended by men and women.

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Altogether, the authority he said he and she delivered lectures in, in public places in Damascus, once again, very common, you had the audition inside the Nabi because she was a Judas, she was a scholar of Nazareth. And I want you to say that if these women were in our time, Rebecca, that you like Helen, and stuff, sometimes I mentioned the names of the people like called connect with them, that I faulty, like the God of religion, or this Pakistani South Asian religion. No, like if these women were in our time, that have our names, and my friends habits such as English, she became say, when she was 16. Like, and when I'm in Sheffield, the majority of my friends actually believe it,

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strangely enough. And people weirdly enough converted when they will be, and was like 1617. And they didn't convert because they were forgotten or something. It's because they were doing their research, and they will catch them. And they're not skinny.

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And it's important to take that away that you use them as a universal religion. And I remember one of my, my previous employer, you tell me, that in Bosnia, Bosnia was the pure white race of Muslims, like they were, they were there.

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And unfortunately, and after what happened in Bosnia, it's a dying race. Do you know why it's a dying race? Because many of the women were raped. And now because of that trauma, they are fearful of getting involved in relationships. And that's why I say that women sometimes are used or can be the most vulnerable. When you look at sex trafficking,

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or human trafficking, who are usually attracted it's women, right? When you look at domestic violence rates, who are the main victims, it's women, you know, when you look at acid attacks, what that means more main victory like women, so you're constantly seeing this and even in in a war, and people need to understand that let me explain how just bringing in feminism Wi Fi is that people always discuss about feminism, but people need to understand how was feminism introduced in uncertain world in Egypt? Has anybody heard of costume me? And I think I mentioned this previously, costume me. And they said costume and mean is like the father of feminism in the Western world. They

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say, look, whilst in the UK, they were fighting the suffragettes because we know, the the UK had a problem with the very first feminists. At the same time. What they were trying to do is that in Egypt, they were trying to introduce families in England. And that's why you had causing any problem. They say that they didn't focus on maternal health. And they didn't focus on segregation. They focused on two things. What were they

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on Egypt and segregation. They focus on hegemon, segregation, and they say when you look at parsimony, and you look at these commonly, you'll see that this family will some of the most colleges on educated women. They were not concerned about the welfare of women. And they say what happened was that when they tried to introduce it, that they had a huge, huge backlash. Who did the backlash come from? Who do you think? Was it Islamic?

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Or was international internationally?

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He was a nationalist. He was a nationalist, quite a problem. And this is what we say that whenever you have an agenda, it's never successful. So when you when you come in and you attack ideals, that are not that strong. community, the women are going out there wearing the headscarf. Some women decide to wear the niqab, but they go into the marketplace, they're educating, they're at university, they're lecturing. So now the attack comes what the what the society does or what happens. The women are generally the first to be protected. You know, the women are the first to be bought in and this is exactly what happened. And what happened is, segregation became a symbol of

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resistance. And that's why unfortunately, we come to the

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We've come to a stage now where the hijab and

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you know, the hijab, and let's just say if we speak about segregation, they are, but they don't have substance in our communities, because we're always on survival mode. Whereas what the prophet peace be on he did was they wanted it to substance to have substance, that when you believe, believe fully, when you question your question, and you critique, and you find that conviction, you will not.

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And it's for those who don't, because your parents will, because that's not belief. You have to do the research, you have to, if you're struggling in me teaching here, the only reason why I'm teaching is because I've critiqued and I've critiqued and I found a lot of problematic issues. And I thought to myself, I'm not just gonna believe what people are teaching me. I know, when I did my research, I came to the realization that this is something that needs to be spoken about. So I'm going to

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I'm going to end there, because I need to leave soon. But should we do the q&a?

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So one thing we'll do is we'll go down to q&a.

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is the fun part, right? Everybody's gonna forget what I said. Except for a few that the q&a people have. And remember, if you have any questions, then feel free to ask.

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Yes.

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Okay, so the concept of the men or the protective the maintainers of women. Okay, so, here, so number one, they weren't meaning this added responsibility for men. It's not a privilege, it's a responsibility. That's the premise. Because if you see it as a privilege, that you may control, you may take it as an element, I'm superior, there's no to periodically stand between men and women. So you have a responsibility. So

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what we learned from our scholars was that there's a circle. within that circle, God has given the man it the responsibility, that is a leadership figure in the house. Because whenever you have any, like social circle, there's an element of leadership there, that's a responsibility upon you, and the financial responsibility, you have the circle. So now, out of that circle, there are elements that you do not have the right to control, because Allah says in the Quran, without being in the edit, and sort of, don't become of the presence. And the story that the rate of that is the story of Marina Mobley, anybody heard the story that you have that you had a man and you had a woman, very

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rough female belief was the male, that they were together. And then Marina asked for the further meaning she asked for the separation. That's her, right? They say that movie loved him very much. He loved her so much. And he would go around to everyone and he said, tell me that this is in a city and Buhari and he said,

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You know, I love her and not to leave me. Eventually he went to the Prophet peace be upon him and he said, I love her. Can you just

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step in, on my behalf? The Prophet peace be upon him? He went to bat rod, he said, and he said, You know what? Why don't you give him a chance? Let people come by Why don't you give him a chance? But he got turned around to the Prophet peace be upon him and said, and it's from you, is this your personal advice? Or is this from Allah, the prophet peace be upon him says, No, this is my opinion. It's not a commandment, commandment from God. burrito said if this is from you, then I still want to go ahead with a hula. And they were both separated. And so even the Prophet peace be upon him understood he had boundaries. So as a woman, you have that leadership responsibility. At times the

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final decision does go to you. And but there is a Shura, the concept of shoot or the concept of consultation that comes before that they weren't, you know, a marriage is

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it's not about control. It's not about a woman controlling the mind of the man providing the woman it's about two parties coming together for what is better. So as the when you go in with a protector, and, and little elements within the marriage, then none of your business, what she studies what she wears, who she sees if she visits the parents. The reason why I'm mentioning this is because I know

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not only Muslim men and non skinned men, men in general, and at times, take training

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To control the woman too much, and that causes harm within the marriage. And so the woman lost her father, he gives you an added responsibility for the caretaking and maintaining of the family. That's the physical and the financial needs of her and for the woman, he also to respect that.

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So if let's just say you come you do Sure, or you come to a decision, and let's just say the husband has made that decision, the wife will respect that. Because when you don't respect it, that's when problems arise. But sure, it is a huge, I'm talking about from a realistic perspective as being the wife, my teachers, the topic of marriage, and what we find is that men, many men misunderstand the woman, so they go in with it with a marriage with all you know, I think Trump is married. And the wife goes also with the, you know, I know what not to be controlled, and hit head marriage, the best sacrifice, compromise. It's about love. It's about understanding, it's about empathy, when you

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understand that, and to be able to afford it. It's not about my way the highway, and

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Does that help?

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us a lot.

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punishment

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for a woman.

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Domestic Violence.

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Okay, so which one are you referring to?

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Which I'm going to be?

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Okay, yeah.

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So the thing is, I did research on this. So number one that I so in Islam, there are four forces first going on, they've had the sinner, the theist, had defensiveness, together for two different things, the earth and the judge mm hmm, is the consensus. First of all, you cannot take a verse of the Quran, without understanding the sinner, I cannot go to the Citadel, and take the verse on their, you know, manual of how they run the country and war.

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and use that to say America are going to terrorists.

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You can't do that. The world has contacts. So now with that verse, you have to take the cultural context into consideration. And number two, you have to take and age man, so that age male scholars was never that that led to that midwife eating is the consensus. It's authority. So it's not there's no, you can't get to one. That's how that secondly, culturally, there's different responses to that some of the people say is that culturally, God is never meant to hate. Dogs are never meant to hate it. They say that, you know, people say that what, what Chicago message saying that he said to when we met him, he said,

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I'm just trying to remember what I said, Now, he mentioned something

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gone from my mind, let me mention here, that's going to come back to me. So the doorbell is important. Number one, secondly is the focus is not on demolishing women, but protecting the marriage. So husband, the woman has a right to her that that is if problems arise in the marriage, then the husband, then this is something where, you know, like, culturally, I know, my husband gives me the law.

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to like, be quiet right now. And I think my husband and I, like he said something and a few days.

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And it costs a lot more. This is the reality of married marriage is really like you're debating with each other who gets in bed last and who should stay alive, whoever's last day have to shoot the light, man, like marriage is little thing. So here, if I remember sharing the message, and the doorbell refers to that, it meant it for the audience. He meant the tap. But for my husband, it's the law. I know Felix means by Alma, you're going too far, you're conveying too much. But you just need to calm down. I don't know if a lot of it step off. He's just going to get a bit upset. Like my husband wouldn't like men, good men don't do that. And secondly, so in the

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use of time, now if the husband came and it's like, she's like really getting agitated, and it has been called in Tampa, and that was enough for her to know you've gone too far. Just calm down. Secondly, what's important is classical Muslim scholars. They need to

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That if a man beat a woman that he was punishable, and he was liable for jail, that was the classical Muslim scholars, they had that. So now you're telling me if that means that you can beat a woman, while classic classical scholars ever come up and say that if a Man Eater that the people in prison, what I'm saying is you're taking it out of context to meet your needs, not your need.

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And you can't do that.

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And one thing, I just want to say,

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okay, so and, you know, in the Quran, there are certain verses that are aimed at women that are certain verses that are aimed at men that are verses are aimed at men and women. So with medion, Allah, Allah,

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Allah medicaments, an example for all people, the audience, what I teach is mentioned to us that the audience here was primarily men, it was aimed at them. So it was a reminder for the men that this is an evidence that there is no such thing as domestic violence. Because it's a culturally accepted practice. We have to look at the odds, the prophet peace be upon him, he never was physically violent with anyone, let alone his wives. They were examples of one or two companions who came to the Prophet peace be upon it, and their wives complaints, and the profits of the mothers strongly stood up against that. It was unacceptable, but please voted. Do you want to add anything? Yeah, so

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I will.

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See ya.

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I

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think Take your time.

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Do you feel more comfortable writing it down?

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Do you what's easy for you?

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So we'll wait.

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We're gonna come back to you.

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Okay. And so yeah, I've got slightly different subjects. So I'm not going to go on from that one. Okay.

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Oh, no. And I certainly believe when you say,

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and they're also really intelligent.

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And there are a number of some hobbies, in which Muhammad

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speaks of women as being deficient in common sense or deficient in intelligence. And the evidence is that

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the witness of two women is one man or one

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woman

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suggesting that women's Craig is deficient in some way, this is not for you.

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So

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he has I went back and I did my research. And I number one, do you offer me? Absolutely. It absolutely. Both

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times.

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So let me go back into my history, because it's unfair for me on myself, because if nothing else is problematic, just needs to sell more. What is that? And so the biggest one, we'll come back up, so Okay,

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so a reading you don't

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sell Arabic? Okay, so

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I sat down. So before I go,

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that's one thing. So even with any one, one, you need to understand the other problematic headings, equal and sledgehammer sometimes, because people without the correct understanding, they use them as a sledgehammer against women. that's problematic. So number one, is that when

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I want to say I don't want to miss anything out,

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and then I regret it later. So number one is he cannot be taking

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literally, comedy, literally. So because he called me.

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So you look at the context. Okay. So the context is the proper dispute

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is with the slave. Okay, let's

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say he's talking to the woman on the unsought we know that the women are men and women are

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a complete different personalities. The women of Medicare are women whose husbands usually traveled outside for training, they generally stayed at home. And so they were close, whereas the women have the unsolved women and maybe nothing worked with the men in the fields. So they will generally no more open the men and women they were mixing. They said that they will actually eat together. And that's why they say a man a woman came to the Prophet peace be upon me. She says, you know, can I just sit and eat with my ex husband? Just not in the just

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As people are there,

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that's fine, as long as you fulfill certain guidelines. So now you have the women of the install. And they're very, like they're very strong minded women, another prophet is reporting, he's joking around with them. This is why we see we need to bring the human is not saying they're deficient. He's saying that, you know, when you get really angry with the husband, that's why some of the men have Medicare, they complain about the women, or maybe that says that then to overpower him. That was their complaint. Even if I'm in front, when it even when it came to sexual practice. Even that was so different, because you had the women over the Assad, they were really

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loud, they were dynamic that would stress the women.

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Because culture plays a role, and you will see your mom from Pakistan, but like, to me, I will see you there do you like you know, and so the properties around

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and speaking about them, and is trying to encourage them to give charity, and it's trying to say to them that you know, when you're discussing with your husband, or when you have an argument, then you just can't think straight? It's not that they don't have the internet.

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When you get some angry that you just, you just think you're not thinking. So what's happening to the

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two?

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Not about giving money.

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Absolutely. So as

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a woman to think straight? No, absolutely. And here's the thing, what you've done is, so I'm going to mention the rest of the graph. So he says, I'm going to witnesses from among the men, and there are not two men available than a man and two women for those who accept as witnesses. So the question, what we say is that there's two things. And this verse was typically on the topic of women, and money matters, money, women and money matters. So one

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question what was sorry? The question is about two witnesses. Yeah, so one, we're saying so the problem is you're calling the first Penny, it's a very human heavy about women.

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You can't take that headache University, because it goes against the evidence of the properties we have on it. nurturing is the most intelligent than many of them. So you may be deficient. So now, these are the witnesses. What we said is that, that Hadees was some scholars episode on this. So some of the scholars said that topic was about women, and it was generally about money matters. So even now, when it comes to finances, a majority of men go to accounting women do but not as much. So now the scholars have said when it comes to

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a specific, where men may be more engaged in that. So for example, so women, some women may stay at home and women may be more engaged in MMA engage more money matters, then the woman comes in to help her, it's more to do great. It's to help her I always say that when you read it, you have to read it from the correct lens. So it's to help out any other matter. That's not money matters. There is a huge difference of opinion that if a woman came and she was just as qualified as a man, that one witness will be enough. Also, if a man was not qualified, that it was okay to bring in two witnesses of men and one or a woman. So we it was based on qualification, not on the women being deficient,

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because you have been placed in the prom, who's a leader is a queen, and she's a leader. She's from the Bible, okay, from the Quran. But the Quran is

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the Bible

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is claiming that it's a true religion and a conscious call on the Prophet peace be upon him heavy, incinerating history. So it's not necessarily taking stuff. It's affirming many stories in the Bible, because there are stories in the Bible are true.

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So that's what it is. And that's why Jesus, and he has a huge value.

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Like the amount of love and gratitude we have for him, like we have a surah in the Quran that

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like for us, like she's reciting Salah every day. And so when that is I just don't want to miss anything from here. So there's a story in the time of the membership, ie the mother of a membership, big scholar, his mother was called to witness and the judge said to her that, you know, your witness on its own is fine. She actually said to the judge, and that you know what I draw with a woman because I just finished up a lot and so you have two witnesses. She brought it in so she had the chance of one and she brought in another woman did see

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Hold around. So this is the important part. Whenever you read it Henley's open arms in order to learn the sooner you may have a heading that the statement, but then you have the sooner that actually the actions. So now the Prophet peace be upon him.

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He may have said that it's better for women to pray at home, that belief. But then the center of all the women was that they went to the masjid. The reason why he said that Hadees there are many reasons is because you will have women like me, who are mothers who can't go to pray five times a day. And if that Hadees were present on a fella, I'm missing out. But now I'm saying is that if I can pray at home, then I'm still getting the same mood. And I find it very empowering. So it depends on what lens you're willing to look at it. So a witness is someone. So it's important to identify what the witness a witness is someone who has seen it as a witness is someone who has understood the

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case seen and understood ecologists, great men and women forward for the sake of the men, they have to have seen it, they have to have understood it. So a woman is not chosen or a witness is not chosen or identified this agenda is based on qualification, and it's based on direct contact, this is where the judges came in. So the case has to fulfill the above two conditions. So just it should be the case should should be that if the case can be understood for men, then when should you prefer and if the case can be better, if the case can be better understood by men, men should be prepared. The preferred if the case is better understood by women than women would be preferred. So if you if

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you take that verse out of context, absolutely.

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But now, if you apply the context, and that's what is then does that that's why they're heavy sound recording, and you have scholars that debated over this, then please take someone else's question. You spent too much time on the Oh, no.

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Do you want to?

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Okay, thank you.

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Okay, so

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I'm gonna change his mind.

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Do you mind if I go back and read the Arabic?

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Arabic?

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No, that's fine, I'll find that ID

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and give you a proper understanding of that. And you can find only the Arabic. And if I don't understand the context, because I'm just taking somewhere, I'll be giving you my opinion. And my opinion, do that basis has no value. If you could give your email a sector heavy, is quite problematic. I need to do some research on it. I need to read the Arabic to understand what he was implying what he was saying, I need to understand if it's fabricated, if it's actually authentic. One thing you have to remember that just because a Hadees is in a book, that doesn't necessarily make it authentic, it can still be quite problematic. But thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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And does anybody have

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to agree if I say it is encouraged

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to wear scarves and clothes by being comfortable? So okay, so when the teacher will reveal the women around the Prophet peace be upon him, they went out and they found anything.

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So from an Islamic basis,

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there is an obligation to wear the headscarf and to dress modestly. There is an obligation, however, and so obligation is there. And that's absolutely present. And

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so

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the obligation is there. Okay. So for both men, absolutely. So, for example, I don't see how this is encouraged for men to because So see, right? difference between how people what they're wearing right now? Yeah, the thing is, now is a woman, it doesn't mean that the, the minimum.

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So what you do is you're applying equality versus equity. So now, the lease was dropped specifically, but I just feel like so it is never meant to be. That's a very strong sooner. Some of the scholars have said it's wedging, meaning it's almost obligatory men are supposed to from here to here when's COVID so you know, like when men wear skinny jeans, that is comically that says, like, no, like you have to wear loose. You're just like mind shaped by my body copy showing your body copy Show Me too. So there are elements there. And the other thing

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You need to understand is that the point that in the interview, he was not modesty per se. It was about identification. It was about recognize as a woman, you know, this is my identity, this gives me strength. It's like, for example, I can go out there and I can be abused by a male sexually, despite me wearing the hijab, me when nature has necessarily stopped him. And I know, Muslim women who have been abused. So that is not modesty. Because if it was modesty, you have two women walking in, I hope you don't mind. Me, you have to remember we have one woman who's wearing the headscarf, and she's wearing a lot of makeup. She's wearing skinny jeans and stuff. You'll have another woman

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she's not Muslim, and she's wearing loose clothing. No, no makeup. Who would you define as modest? Who would you define as modest? like you'd say the one who's not afraid, because she's dressing modestly. What I'm saying is that it is not modesty. But it has connotations of modesty, that, you know, women are encouraged to

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be more trying to appear more

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humble. But what's even more important than the hijab even though it is what's going on, on the side? And how you're treating people, if you think so if you're doing God,

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and you're abusing and you're swearing and you're cursing, then you really need to question

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What's your faith, so that he did is obligatory, and but there are other factors that are so funny to me, like women from a young age, encouraged to wear clothes.

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But I don't think the same is applied to men like that.

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That's a problem with parents who went to the Hadith of the Prophet peace be upon him. And he was going out to Mecca, for hedge, profitability upon him is traveling with follow and traveling with a novice, and best of others

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out and a woman asks them questions. They're young, attractive woman, and is in the bath and suddenly appropriate. Looking at her, she's asking the question, no face covering, she's dressing modestly. And they say that photo just couldn't stop staring.

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He just couldn't stop staring at the Prophet peace be upon him. He turned around the father and he turned his face away. He never said nothing to nothing. And he then followed kept looking around, he just you know, young man, Father attractive. They say the Prophet peace be upon him.

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And he eventually got the message, because the Prophet peace be upon him had a personal relationship with him. So now imagine if he said to the woman, and he wouldn't have said he might be present in the moment, what are you doing here, which he wouldn't have said anyway, he has no personal connection, she may have called

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the Prophet peace be upon him to nurture the man because the man has a responsibility to lower the gaze. He has a responsibility to be respectful, respectable, he has the responsibility to be honored to be generous within the home, I have two boys, I have a responsibility that I have to raise my boys to be great men to women have a huge role in ensuring that the son and daughter are treated equally, if my daughter's not allowed up to five, neither is my son. You know, I mean, the problem is we have many parents who parenting differently. That's why when you look at our

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community, you have medical on drugs. And yes, there are some women who are on drugs, but nothing compared to the percentage of men because of that mismatch of parenting. But I agree with you, men and women, when it comes to that, that emphasis again, we emphasis emphasize, sorry, men, loans against men, respecting women from a young age, we wouldn't be dealing with some of the use cases in the faith or non faith community.

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Do we have any more because I go to my trainings at 810.

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So no questions.

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So I'm going to come back with that.

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Just come down from that I've done on TV. And so as someone who just want to quickly mention

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translate for you guys, and like with good personal development, okay, so we I have always given our lectures to young women. My aim is to and that's been our means to nurture. You know, women who are living up to their potential that Allah has given them. You want me to go out for a doctor, your doctor couldn't be an engineer to go out and be an engineer.

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But we also want to nurture that strong spiritual connection that helps you feel happy and content. So there

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is praise. And there's a huge focus on men and women from the past, who made a difference. And so you can find role models. And in there, we live in a very narcissistic community, unfortunately. So the aim was to really navigate you guys to find contentment in your own achievement, rather than living in an era where we spend a lot of time watching other people's lives. So it's very, it's a good treat. And the aim, we've included a lot of personal examples. And there's a lot of stories in there. There's a lot of case studies. And if you've heard my voice guys feel like important to you,

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like, so if anybody's interested, please do take a look. And see if I have said anything. Good for Alaska, Nevada, anything that I've made mistakes on, if I ever get patronizing, condescending, and if I may have missed something out, then I apologize for that.

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I face a lot of data and he is the most public and I see forgiveness

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from you. And

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so I'm here for about 15 minutes. So if you just want to come down and

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see that you have a little piece of paper and please feel free to write what you enjoy from the seat and anything you would like to know more about how

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back to myself. I have like about 5000 of these alone. And I always go back and review them being improved. A little thing is my children and they grow up and I want to say that when you mom spend time away from you that she was

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doing something beneficial and please

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thank you for attending.